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Set 2: GBF- The Forever Scholarship · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: God bless football, Mikey a.
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  Speaker 2: God blessed football, Taylor, God Blessed.
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  Speaker 3: Football, stwo gots, thank you Taylor. Preseason Week two got
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  Speaker 3: underway last night. The rest of the game's coming up
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  Speaker 3: this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: We are inching.
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  Speaker 3: Closer to the start of both college football and the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: We have some more mike les today. I'm excited for that.
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  Speaker 3: We have a blind ranking towards the end of this episode.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to start with a topic that's interesting
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  Speaker 3: to Taylor and to me as well, because you have
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of fifth year guys. The NCAA now has
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  Speaker 3: a new ruling in place where all college athletes Taylor,
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  Speaker 3: am I right, are going to have five years. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Like there's no more red shirting, none of that. It's
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  Speaker 3: just you have five years to play out your college career.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: I believe? So?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: And so now you have a bunch of guys who
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  Speaker 3: declared themselves for the NFL before that rule was put
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  Speaker 3: in place, and if they're not making their teams or
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  Speaker 3: if they're not liking how it's going, I'm assuming they
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  Speaker 3: can go back to college right for their fifth year.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So a federal judge ruled that D one athletes
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  Speaker 5: who began college in twenty twenty two to twenty twenty
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  Speaker 5: three and played four straight seasons could return for a
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  Speaker 5: fifth season this upcoming season right now. A federal appeals
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  Speaker 5: court today gave the NCAA a victory by temporarily blocking
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  Speaker 5: that ruling that would have allowed thousands of college athletes
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  Speaker 5: an extra year of eligibility. But this is such a
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  Speaker 5: mess of a situation.
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  Speaker 3: Wait a second, So the ruling was put in place,
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  Speaker 3: and now it's been blocked.
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  Speaker 5: It's been blocked a temporary block.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so now fifth years can't go back for a
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  Speaker 1: fifth year.
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  Speaker 5: But it's such a.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Rachel class of twenty two, just so
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  Speaker 3: we're clear, my daughter's.
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  Speaker 1: College looked she could have two years left. She read
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  Speaker 1: shirted one year.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it is such a mess because you have
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  Speaker 5: players theoretically that are playing in the preseason right now,
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  Speaker 5: that have signed NFL contracts that are now having the
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  Speaker 5: option to come back for the college football season, which
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  Speaker 5: I would like to remind everybody starts in less than
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  Speaker 5: eight days. And one of the players that was granted
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  Speaker 5: a fifth year in college football is a Buccaneers edge
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  Speaker 5: rusher Jack Pieburn. He had two sacks in Tampa Bay's
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  Speaker 5: last preseason game. These are guys that could come back
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  Speaker 5: to the college level and impact a team's ability to
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  Speaker 5: win a national championship or not.
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  Speaker 3: So keep in mind we're talking about guys who have
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  Speaker 3: played four straight years. They went to the NFL because
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  Speaker 3: they didn't have an option. Now they have options.
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  Speaker 6: I love the idea of these colleges scouting preseason games
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  Speaker 6: and be like, oh, let's go get him, Let's go
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  Speaker 6: get that guy from the NFL and bring him on
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  Speaker 6: to our team.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Signetty's doing it right now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Blaine Kippen's idea of a recruiting trip right now
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  Speaker 5: is going to the Jets preseason game tonight and seeing
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  Speaker 5: if you could get any edge rushers.
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  Speaker 6: Taylor, I got to pitch something to you because I
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  Speaker 6: think you could be the perfect guy for this. You
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  Speaker 6: should be the anti mel kiper and do a whole
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  Speaker 6: thing on grading guys going from the NFL back to college.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, all the fifth years, all the guys who played
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  Speaker 3: four consecutive years in college had to go to the
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  Speaker 3: NFL draft Tayler's big board, right if we were drafting
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  Speaker 3: those guys back into college like a mock draft.
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  Speaker 1: I love this idea. Can we put it together?
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  Speaker 5: Believe, it's hard to even project what they would do
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  Speaker 5: at the college level if they go back, because theoretically, again,
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  Speaker 5: all these college teams have their NIL budgets in place
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  Speaker 5: for this season. So if you're telling me one of
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  Speaker 5: the best players is now granted an extra year of eligibility,
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  Speaker 5: where are schools finding this money? They'll find it.
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  Speaker 2: We're back to brown paper bags.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't have any doubts. Yes, I don't have
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  Speaker 5: any doubt if Kirby Smart can all of a sudden
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  Speaker 5: fine two million dollars for let's say, an offensive tackle
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  Speaker 5: to bring to Georgia. It is just crazy that we
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  Speaker 5: are less than two weeks away from the official start
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  Speaker 5: of college football Week one, and teams might have the
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  Speaker 5: ability to make some game changing acquisitions.
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  Speaker 3: Still, no one is thinking this through. So what happens
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  Speaker 3: to the draft rights? So, like, let's say the guy
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  Speaker 3: in the Buccaneers decides, Hey, you know what, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: go back. I'm gonna go play a Texas this year
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  Speaker 3: more money. Do the Bucks still retain his draft rights?
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  Speaker 5: So if he does go back to college, Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 5: would retain his NFL rights.
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  Speaker 4: Huh.
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  Speaker 5: So if you're Tampa Bay, it's it's basically a win
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  Speaker 5: win because this guy, Jack Pieburn, is probably a practice
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  Speaker 5: squad guy at best.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, before you finish this, Dan and I would say
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  Speaker 3: forever that college football it's a minor league system, a
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  Speaker 3: free minor league system for the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Never has it been more truth and it is right now.
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  Speaker 1: Think about this.
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  Speaker 3: You can send them back down to college and then
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  Speaker 3: when they're ready to play again in the big leagues,
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  Speaker 3: they come back up and they're still on your team.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 5: And with this instance, looking at this one with the
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  Speaker 5: Tampa Bay Bucks and Jack Pieburn, if he stays with
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  Speaker 5: the Bucks, he doesn't go back to college, Okay, the
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  Speaker 5: Bucks could get to get to use him on their
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  Speaker 5: practice squad. He could potentially make their fifty three man roster.
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  Speaker 5: Let's say he goes back to LSU and he blows
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  Speaker 5: up and all of a sudden, the mel Kipers and
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  Speaker 5: the Todd mcshay's of the world are giving him a
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  Speaker 5: second or third round grade. Well, the Bucks signed him
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  Speaker 5: as an undrafted free agent and they and they retain
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  Speaker 5: his rights.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, stinks. For Pieburn, but great for the Bucks. I
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  Speaker 3: mean he holds out or somehow call them a rookie,
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  Speaker 3: or somehow figures out a way to sue the NCAA
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  Speaker 3: to get a sixth year.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 3: So that's it's weird because I thought the deal was
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  Speaker 3: once you played, once you took a paycheck from a
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  Speaker 3: professional team, you can't go back to college.
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  Speaker 1: But you're saying a judge is overruling that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And it kind of started in college basketball where
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  Speaker 5: Nate Oates was doing G league recruitment, where Nate Oates
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  Speaker 5: was looking at his Alabama basketball team saying, oh, this
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  Speaker 5: this team is not as good as I thought it was.
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  Speaker 5: Let me let me try to find some loopholes here.
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  Speaker 5: And he's going to the G league and finding guys
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  Speaker 5: that never played in the NBA but could potentially be
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  Speaker 5: granted an extra year of eligibility, and he was bringing
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  Speaker 5: them in. And that situation was crazy because it sounded
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  Speaker 5: like they just went to a judge in Alabama who
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  Speaker 5: was an Alabama lum and was like, hey, can you
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  Speaker 5: grant this guy an extra year of eligibility? And the
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  Speaker 5: judge was like, roll tide.
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  Speaker 3: He's eligible, and everybody was like, wait, it's like the
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  Speaker 3: soresby judge.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you just gotta find the judge and put
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  Speaker 1: him in your pocket.
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  Speaker 5: And it's that's that's what everybody's saying, Like, you could
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  Speaker 5: find a judge that gives you a ruling for whatever
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  Speaker 5: you want. I do think there should be a rule.
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  Speaker 5: This has been something I've thought for a while. A
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  Speaker 5: college basketball team and a college football team could get
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  Speaker 5: one spot on their roster for somebody who's allowed to
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  Speaker 5: never graduate. Wow, Like imagine North Carolina Tyler Hansborough. Tyler
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  Speaker 5: Hansburo is probably the best case example of this. If
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  Speaker 5: Tyler Hansborough was still playing center for North Carolina, that
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  Speaker 5: would kind of be electric.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, so he gets a permanent spot, but he could
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  Speaker 3: still play. He can play forever.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, he can only play college basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so he can never go to the pro.
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  Speaker 5: You can never go to This is reserved for the
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  Speaker 5: spot where the guy. We've had this middle ground spot
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  Speaker 5: where you look at a guy and you're like dominating college.
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  Speaker 5: This is not going to translate to the NFL. Jim
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  Speaker 5: Erfourdette at BYU, Tim Tebow at Florida. Now imagine if
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  Speaker 5: BYU Basketball and Florida football each use their spots respectively
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  Speaker 5: to keep Jimmer and Tim Tebow in college forever.
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  Speaker 3: Right, But good luck convincing Tebow he's not going to
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  Speaker 3: be good in the NF Like I'm not. I understand
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  Speaker 3: what it is you're saying, and perhaps that's that would
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  Speaker 3: have been the right decision. Like I'm now I'm thinking
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  Speaker 3: about it. Johnny Manzel would have stayed at Texas A
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  Speaker 3: and M forever. Ever, Yes, if these rules were in place, Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And now you have nil where It's like if Texas
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  Speaker 5: A and M wants to use their spot for Johnny
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  Speaker 5: football and pay him more than an NFL contract would
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  Speaker 5: pay him. Right, I kind of like this idea, I know.
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  Speaker 1: But he stays in college forever.
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  Speaker 3: At what age do you get to give a new
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  Speaker 3: spot away because he can't play quarterback at the age
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  Speaker 3: of fifty?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've been I've been thinking about this.
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  Speaker 6: It's when the guy either decides that he is going
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  Speaker 6: to the pros and then when he goes to the pros,
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  Speaker 6: you're gone, or when he retires from the sport altogether.
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  Speaker 6: Until then, that person, you can't change him, You can't
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  Speaker 6: force him out like that is your guy.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, you can't even force him out.
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  Speaker 1: No, you can't.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I mean you can't. You can't declare him
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  Speaker 6: not being it. You can put pressure on him, but
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  Speaker 6: if he doesn't declare he's out, that's it.
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  Speaker 3: That's a big commitment though, I mean, what if someone
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  Speaker 3: better comes along next year?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's.
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  Speaker 6: Your problem, right, That's that's why the Michael Lombardies of
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  Speaker 6: the world make all that money.
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  Speaker 3: Does Youbert Davis still have a job if Psycho T
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  Speaker 3: is still at North Carolina?
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  Speaker 1: Huh.
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  Speaker 5: Roy Williams probably never retired.
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  Speaker 1: Because he's got Psycho T forever the paint.
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  Speaker 2: Ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Doug Flutie would still be at BC.
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  Speaker 2: Is Greg McElroy still slinging it for Alabama?
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  Speaker 1: No doubt? A J M maybe all of all what
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  Speaker 1: we criticized the most when we got rid of.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, But then in this situation, imagine a J. Mccarrn
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  Speaker 5: is is your lifetime Alabama quarterback? They use the lifetime
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  Speaker 5: spot on him. Then all of a sudden, the Bryce
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  Speaker 5: Young's of the world, the mac jones is of the world,
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  Speaker 5: the Tours of the world.
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  Speaker 4: They don't exist.
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  Speaker 5: They have to find other schools and this is now
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  Speaker 5: you're now you're funneling more talent to other I think
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  Speaker 5: I just solved NCAA rules.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but unless the current quarterback says to to a hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm good with a year off. Come here, let's go,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like meeting. No, Well, what do you mean
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  Speaker 3: he has to start?
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  Speaker 6: Can't if AJ mccarran's holding that position, So I can't
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  Speaker 6: go until he goes to the until Oh listen, I
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  Speaker 6: don't know about this.
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  Speaker 3: So what if AJ mccaron says to a seventeen year
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  Speaker 3: old big time recruit, Hey, I'm getting up there in age.
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  Speaker 1: I know this.
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  Speaker 3: Position's mine and it's mine forever. Uh, but I am
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  Speaker 3: going to give you this position. You want to be
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  Speaker 3: the Alabama quarterback, I will grant you this position for
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  Speaker 3: a year.
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  Speaker 1: It's yours, have it, right? I mean, what are we
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  Speaker 1: doing here?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a good solving problems.
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  Speaker 3: I like Mikey's idea of taking guys once they're done
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  Speaker 3: with their professional careers and give him him one final
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  Speaker 3: crack in college.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, so in this case, can the can the
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  Speaker 5: can the player come back from the pros? Or this
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  Speaker 5: player could never have declared because now I'm thinking like
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  Speaker 5: the Colts. When the Colts draft Trent Richardson, and Richardson's
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: a bus at the running back position. He was a
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  Speaker 5: bus because his game just didn't translate to the NFL level.
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  Speaker 5: If he's if he has a bus career in the
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  Speaker 5: NFL and now he's looking at I could just go
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  Speaker 5: back to Alabama if Alabama wants to use their lifetime
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  Speaker 5: spot on me, and then I'll just rush for two
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  Speaker 5: thousand yards every year.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're also assuming that Alabama has that lifetime
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  Speaker 6: spot to give.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's do this. You would have declared somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: By that right if you let them play out their
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  Speaker 3: careers and then go back to the school to take
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  Speaker 3: that permanent roster spot.
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  Speaker 4: So let's try it this way.
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  Speaker 3: If Julio Jones played for Alabama this year, how many
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  Speaker 3: catches would he be the best wide receiver in college
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  Speaker 3: in college football?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: How old is Julio Jones Not old enough?
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  Speaker 5: Not old enough where a grown man going to back
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  Speaker 5: to college football wouldn't dominate. Julio Jones is thirty seven.
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  Speaker 3: So you're saying a thirty seven year old Julio Jones
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  Speaker 3: today would dominate college football.
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  Speaker 5: I think anybody of of that status would dominate college football.
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  Speaker 5: Like DeAndre Hopkins goes back to Clemson. DeAndre Hopkins is
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  Speaker 5: dominating college football.
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  Speaker 3: So in a year or two, I can't say that
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  Speaker 3: word today. Theoretically, thank you, Matthew Stafford. I could have
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  Speaker 3: tried it again. Matthew Stafford in a year or two
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  Speaker 3: could head back to Athens.
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  Speaker 5: This is where we need some restrictions to the rule
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  Speaker 5: because I don't I don't want to see Matthew like
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  Speaker 5: letter of the law the way I want my rule officiated.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want Matthew Stafford going back to college after
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  Speaker 5: such a long career. This is more like close your
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  Speaker 5: eyes and imagine this for a second. College basketball march madness.
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  Speaker 5: Gonzaga runs out the tunnel. Here comes out of Morse.
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  Speaker 4: Oh wow, he should have stayed.
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  Speaker 1: That's who the rules for.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're saying it's not Aaron Donald returning to Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 3: Now, no, no, no, that would be fun. I mean
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  Speaker 3: Mendoza returns to Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, man, does it could have stayed?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Theoretically, uh, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the NCAA guy, who's the
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  Speaker 3: Carolina basketball player? You would most want right now just
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  Speaker 3: to come back and be fill that permanent roster spot.
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  Speaker 5: I think you have to stabilize the guard position, so
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  Speaker 5: I would probably go with somebody like Marcus Page. Bring
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  Speaker 5: back Marcus Page. Who loses the twenty six national team
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  Speaker 5: national Championship where right now? For me, if I could
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  Speaker 5: give anybody a title from any sports teams I ever watched,
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  Speaker 5: it would be Marcus Page.
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  Speaker 3: Do you guys think Michael Jordan would still dominate college basketball?
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  Speaker 5: No, now you've got too far it. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: Michael Jordan has enough left in the tank to get
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  Speaker 5: up and down the court.
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  Speaker 1: And Mike he's thinking about it. I gotta tell you,
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I just I just don't know how I can say no.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's probably no, but I can't say it.
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  Speaker 3: How many sacks does Lawrence Taylor have for North Carolina
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  Speaker 3: this year? He's playing linebacker?
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  Speaker 2: You think Belichick would know how to use him?
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  Speaker 1: Again, you're already out of and he forgot I know again. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I like this.
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  Speaker 3: I like a permanent I don't like what the fifth
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  Speaker 3: year is doing. I don't like what the NCAA is
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  Speaker 3: doing because they're flying by the seat of their pants.
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  Speaker 1: But I do like the idea of having a.
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  Speaker 3: Permanent roster spot for somebody. Andrew Luck can go back
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  Speaker 3: to Stanton. Well, he did go back to Stanford. He
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  Speaker 3: doesn't want to play football anymore, that's the problem. He
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  Speaker 3: just doesn't have the love of the Can you imagine
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Luck is the quarterback of Stanford this year. Andrew
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  Speaker 3: Luck can't be more than thirty years of age, right,
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  Speaker 3: thirty one? Thirty five tops.
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  Speaker 5: He's got to be older than.
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  Speaker 1: He would dominate college football, is my point?
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  Speaker 4: Correct?
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  Speaker 5: Sure Andrew Luck was older than me. Yeah, he's thirty six.
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  Speaker 4: He's an old thirty six man.
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• 16:45
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get uh, let's get to some more
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Mike Lees.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Yere NFL in college football season right around the corner.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Uh, Mike, take it away.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll start with more Mike Les. Let's start here.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: We're stuck on this topic.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: More Mike Lee. Yeah, to be a one and done
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: head coach Todd Monkin or Joe Brady.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm just thinking, like Mitchell Trubisky, do you think
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know where he is right now, but I
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: think he probably would still dominate college football.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: He's with the Titans, so he's the.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Third stringer with the Titans, or he could have the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: permanent roster spot for Carolina.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Ever dominate college football.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: He was the number one pick, No, he was the
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: number three three. They did trade up to get him.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: But I think Mitch Trubisky is almost too good of
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: an example in this one.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, sorry, he.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Was a pro bowler in the NFL. People forget that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: There's a rule here when we start more, Mike Lee's
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: we can't go away from it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I broke the rule. I am sorry about that. Mike
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: take it away, asked that question again. I didn't listen.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about Mitchell Trubisky.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: For some reason, You're the one that transitioned to this.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I wasn't ready to.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry. I apologize to you.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: It's not good enough. More Mike Lee to be a
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: one and done head coach in the NFL.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: Todd Monkin or Joe Brady, This is easy. Joe Brady's
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: got the expectations, That's.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Why I throw it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: But he also has the friendship with Josh Allen, So
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I mean Josh Allen chose him to be the head coach.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: This is easy for me because I don't see a
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: scenario where the Bills failed this season. So I think
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: the Bills are more set up for success. Whereas, if
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: you're Todd Mounkin, you're looking at a quarterback situation of
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson or should or Sanders. There's a scenario where
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: the Browns are so bad this year they're in position
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: next year to draft a quarterback, and the Browns are
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: looking at it like, let's let's go out and get
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: a coach who pairs better with this quarterback we're drafting.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Let's reset again.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, I will tell you Todd Monket is very friendly
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: with Peyton Manning, just for whatever it's worth.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: Wow, is that the move before the move?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was the move before the move.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to put a coach in place to make sure
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Arch is comfortable in the event that he has to.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Go to Cleveland.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Mounken that as well. Lock.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, the thing about Joe Brady and Josh Allen
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: being friends, we're good friends until the blame starts headed
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: my way.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Then I got to push it back.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what Josh does.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I agree, all right.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: More likely to repeat as division winners are Denver Broncos
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: or the Chicago Bears.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Wow, that's actually really.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Good, well tough divisions. He's good at the game. He
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: knows how to play it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Denver Broncos because you
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: have Patrick Mahomes coming back from an injury. Maybe that
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: gets a little bit delayed. You have the Chargers offensive
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: line already reshuffling, giving Justin Herbert that built in excuse.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Denver should have a great defense. They should have an
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: offense getting ready to take the next step. The NFC
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: North is Murderer's row right now, we think, right, I
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: feel fairly confident that the Lions are going to be
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: a lot better with a last place schedule. The Bears
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: should still be a pretty good team. And then you
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: have the Green Bay Packers, who are one of the
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: most sustain always franchises.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, always always there.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: So it's the Broncos or the Bears.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I think the Bears are winning that division, so I
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: would say the Broncos.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, so you would say the Bears.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I would say the Bears. I'm sorry, Yes, I would
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: say the Bears.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Bears winning that division, not gonna win the Super Bowl
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: this year, but eventually, in about a year or two, Kayleb.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Williams will be the greatest quarterback we've ever seen. Remember that?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, more likely to win NFL Comeback Player of the Year.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, right, Aaron Donald.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, either of those guys want that in board?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: They don't.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I mean they're probably the two favorites, though for it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure Aaron Donald is listed yet.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: It'd beyond for Mahomes to have a Comeback Player of
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: the Year, but it's.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Because of a So I understand it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Feels like Mahomes' award before the season even starts, Aaron
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Donald's coming back from retirement. Mahomes is coming back from
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: an injury. Aaron Donalds had three or four years off.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Mahomes hasn't. How is Aaron Donald even like, how does
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: he qualify for comeback Player of the Year.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: He've been sitting on his ass for three years doing nothing.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: Isn't that what the definition of a comback I was
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: gonna say, isn't that exactly as opposed to Patrick Mahomes
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: who missed what five games.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: At the end of last year.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Well, to me, the comeback Player of the Year is
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: a guy who got injured the year before, had to
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: go through all the rehab to get himself healthy, and
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: then came back and showed flashes, if not showed his
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: entire former self.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: So I'm looking at the odds right now for Comeback
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Player of the Year. Yeah, it's Patrick Mahomes award to lose.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: He's plus one to eighty five. I think Mikey is right.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Where as long as Patrick Mahomes plays a good amount
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: and puts up a normal Patrick Mahomes season, He's going
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: to win this award. Second place is second best odds
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: right now Jaden Daniels plus four fifty, Kyler Murray plus
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: six hundred, Aaron Donald is listed at plus nine hundred,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: and then the next two options are Malik Neighbors and
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Daniel Jones. At plus fourteen hundred.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Mahomes could be the rare comeback Player of the Year
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: ends winner of the MVP.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, how about that?
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: The one person?
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: So what is Kyler Murray coming back from Arizona being terrible? Yeah,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: he's on Arizona right No, yeah, the one I'm rooting
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: for him.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: I am the one ticket. I think you could go
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: ahead and rip up right now. Every time we've had
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Mark Achmann on and he talks about the Atlanta Falcons
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: and the Miami Dolphins, he mentions that he has a
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: flyer on TUA to win Comeback Player of the Year.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't see any any world like Doctor
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Strange in the in the Marvel Cinematic universe could see
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: four thousand possible outcomes.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Fourteen million.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't see fourteen million outcomes this season in
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: the NFL I played them all out. There isn't one
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: outcome where two wins Comeback Player of the Year two,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: I think to his career is done.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: You played all the possible outcomes.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: There was one alternate universe where Garrett Wilson wins it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, but it never spat back to Is that what
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you're saying.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson's got a better better case right now.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Than to me. That's the definition of comeback Player of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the Year.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Like, to come back, you have to go somewhere, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes hasn't gone anywhere.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Are He's still Patrick Mahomes?
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: What are we doing here?
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know why I'm getting so angry about that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I want I want to Yeah, I want to be
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: a moral high ground.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I once lost the comeback Player of the Year bet.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: When I bet to mar Hamlin to come back or
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: be the comeback players.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Everyone thought it was a lot.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they gave it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: They gave it a Joe Flacco Hamilon was robbed me.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: He came back from death.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Would Flacco come back from hanging out with his Browns
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: hanging out with his kids on the weekend?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Well the Browns? Yes, all right, Do we have another more,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Mike Lely, you want one more? One more?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, all right, college football more Mikely to win the
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: ACC Louisville.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: Clemson, Wow, neither, but more like obviously obviously there's one
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: or two teams that.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Would probably be better odds.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: To win them.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Who's coaching Louisville right now? Bro, he's been there for
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: a while. Dabo has been at Clemson for a while.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Should have been fired three or four years ago. I'm
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: just I didn't know who the.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Louisville coach was. Mike, that's all. That's why it was.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: And it's a big deal that it's Brom because Brom.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: You know, yeah, Brom, you have a chance.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Obviously we know Miami s m U.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why Carolina why we have a little.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Fun with it that conversation.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: But if you had LT though, the only time Caroline
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: is in the conversation is to let them know that
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: they're not in the conversation.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I think I feel like Clemson is the obvious answer
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: to this.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: My gut says I would go with Stu Yachts, But
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: there is a part of me who's interested in seeing
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: what this Louisville offense looks like with the transfer quarterback
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: from Ohio State because Isaac Brown is one of the
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: best running backs in the country, So it feels like
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: you have something more reliable to lean on if you're
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: a Louisville But push comes to shove, I would stick
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: with Clemson.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I think just because he's getting athletes, right, you know
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: there's athletes at Clemson.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: It's can Dabo coach.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Him to an ACC championship And in the last few
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: years the answer has been no.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: But I would take Clemson just based on talent.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they have the culture, they have the home field atmosphere,
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: and then it's just can Dabbo get back to his
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: winning ways? And like Dabo, once you've won a national
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: championship in college football, there's always the potential for you
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: to return to that. Like you don't just forget how
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: to coach all of.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: A sudden, it seems like Dabbo has.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Though Dabbo just went with this like anti transfer portal stance,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: which he's since kind of walked back on and been like,
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: look at Kirk Signetti dominating college football right now just
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: because he's going to the transfer portal. When Dabosweeney was
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: getting on his high horse and was like the only
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Nil I care about is Jesus' name image and like this,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: like okay, dab but we get it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: But you're saying, you're saying champions, Yeah, champions are champions.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: They don't forget how to be champions. They don't forget
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: how to coach their team. Two championships? Is that what
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: you're saying that he could have his moment again?
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: Right if Dabo Sweeney just puts his pride aside and says,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: I am going to use nil and I am going
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: to use the transfer portal to get the best players
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: here because I know what our coaching staff can do
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: when we have the resources backing us. Yes, there's a
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: world where Clemson gets back to being a national title contender.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: It's just can Dabbo do that?
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: It's interesting that you think coaches have that ability. What
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: happened to Belichick?
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Brady?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, losing Brady?
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, Dabo's proven he could win in college football.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: There was nothing to suggest that around Belichick could win
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: at the college football level. And then just six Super
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Bowl rings and then him and Lombardi go down to
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: Chapel Hill and they're like, well, this is how he
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: did in the NFL Okay, guys, that has no bearing
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: on if you're able to beat Wake Force, which you
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: guys have proven you can't even do that. So stop
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: referring yourself as the thirty third NFL team please, Right Jesus.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: When did Dabo win that national championship? Just because it's
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: been a while, that's all I'm saying, Like I understand.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Twenty eighteen. Okay, so he lost in twenty nineteen to
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: that the LSU Joe Burrow, Tamar chasetrus.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: So not that far remove what you're saying, right, And
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, just based on talent and the coach
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: and the home field and all of it. That a championship,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: you know, a championship winning coach being there doing that,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: it means a lot in terms of trying to get
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: back to glory.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: And when you're looking at what's changed the most since
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: they went to that national championship in twenty nineteen, they
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: won the national championship in twenty eighteen, it's the transfer portal. Yes,
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: the transfer portal and nil are the only things that
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: are stopping Clemson from getting back there.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think the pitch is to one
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: of these?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: You know, guys, who has a fifth year but you know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: playing for an NFL team right now, Like if Kirby
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Smart's going in there, he's bad mouth in his current
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: coach saying, hey, I know this guy, he's never going
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: to play.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: You come to Georgia, right, Yeah, Well, I think the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the brown paper bag.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the pitch, there is no bag.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: There is no pitch. The pitch is how much are
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: you gonna pay me? And guess what, most of the time,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: with a lot of these guys that are that have
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: the decision coming up, it's going to pay you more
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: than a practice squads pays out an NFL player.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Just tell me Carson Beck can't go back. That's all
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I want to know. He can't.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: He can't go back.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, he didn't play for or consecutive years. He played
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: for twelve.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Let's do blind rankings here, Mikey as we close out
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: God bless football.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited about this.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: You made a face because you feel like we've been
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: talking way too long.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I'm ready to go blind rankings.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Let's do it today.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: We're doing college football Quarterbacks.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: Of the last I don't know, we'll call it twenty
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: five thirty years.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So this.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: Is you guys, each tell me where you have them
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: ranked one through ten.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Yep, you don't have to agree.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Give me a name.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Remember this is only their college careers.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: We're in preseason four.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: First name up, Baker Mayfield.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: All time great college quarterbacks the last twenty five to
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: thirty years. Now, it just dawned on me why Taylor's
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: asking so many follow ups?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Call it into two thousand?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Why can't we go back for I mean.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Because that's not the list I have. I created this list.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: It's your list. It's your game out. I'm sorry forget
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: it lashing at him, Yes.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: You are, instead of just giving me a number.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: So since two thousand, how many quarterbacks have been better
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: than Baker Mayfield?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: All right, Taylor, you have your number here.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Man, there's a lot of.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Prison quarterbacks since two thousand. It's basically a quarterback award.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I was gonna try to use that. I'm gonna put Baker.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, you put Baker too low on this list.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: He's gonna have a chip on his shoulders, so be careful.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna do exactly that, and I'm gonna put Baker
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Seven's curious.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Baker both good.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Baker Forth, he was good.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: That was good. Okay. Next name up, Jameis Winston.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: He was great.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: It's better than Baker, it's great.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: He had a better college career than Baker.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Yes, I'm gonna put Gmus Winston. So I have a
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: pretty good idea of the quarterbacks that I would save
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: for a definitive top three. So I'm gonna put Jamis four.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: You have a definitive top three, but you don't know
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: if those three names are gonna be included.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: So correct, very true.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: But I'll hold out with the hope that at least
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: some of those guys' names.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna put Jamis at number three, number three, three,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: he was great.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Next name up, Joe Burrow.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: Exactly one of my top three. He's won for h
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I am also going to I'm not gonna take any
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: chances here. I'm gonna put Joe Burrow at the top
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: spot before that twenty nineteen season.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Last three.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, Next name up, Vince Young.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Damn Now, he was good.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Now, Vince Young might be the greatest college quarterback I've
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: ever seen.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he might be.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even think he want a hush doesn't matter.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Just here. Did I just hear born opera Cardigo?
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: He agrees with me, I mean for me, but we're
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: doing We're not going that far back.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: It is Charlie Ward. He is the greatest college quarterback
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: So you're putting him at two. You have two, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: ten open, and we're ready.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Mayfield.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Since I grew up, I thought he'd be angry at me.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Since I grew up a USC fan. I'm gonna dock
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: a couple of points from Vince Young there, and I'm
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: gonna put Vince Young five.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I can't put Vince Young after Baker. That's why I
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: hate this game.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And he's gonna give us a name that's better than
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Vince Young than.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: It's called blind rankings, not rankings.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm putting Vince Young at number five.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, I have to. I'm sorry, Ben So, I
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: love you. Go ahead, all right.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Next name up, DeShawn Watson.
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  Speaker 4: He was good at Clemson. He was great at Clemson.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: I have no problem putting to Shawn Watson.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Chime of here, same here, It's easy. No one's good
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: at the sea.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: I think that's a little bit of NFL. DeShawn Watson.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: But okay, uh, next name up?
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Tim Tebow one of the names I was saving for
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: my top three for me. So I've already gotten two
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: of my top three. I'm gonna put Tim Tebow third.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: My top five is rounded out. How about that.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: There's a there's a name. There's a name that could
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: come that I think is a definitive top three guy.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: But we'll see if you get him.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe this guy is it. Next name up, Michael Vick.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Yea, when Michael Taylor, you're giving a look like you
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: didn't expect that one. When he brought Virginia Tech to
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: the National Championship game, I swore to myself, Michael Vick
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: was going to be the.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Greatest quarterback that has ever led. I did, man. He
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: was so good in college, so good.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: And he was instrumental in making Virginia Tech like a
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: relevant college football powerhouse.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: With Frank Beemer, they were always pretty good, but he
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: got them to a national championship game like they were
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: always competitive, always good, and he took him to the
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: next next level. Yeah, I'll put him at six. I
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: have to have no choice.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: I'm also gonna put him at six. I'm keeping my
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: number two spot. For the guy that I'm holding out
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: vote for.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Next name up, Johnny Football, Damn not.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: The name of well? Why Baker at four?
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna put him a spot below Baker Mayfield and
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: put Johnny Football eight. Electric but Tech Saint m.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: He was more than electric.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: He went, he won the Heisman, he beat Alabama at Alabama,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: it was incredible.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I should still be there.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna put Man's out at.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Number eight, so I have two and nine. I have
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: seven and nine.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: Next name up when you really need like a Jason White,
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: So you're not getting Jason White. I've been holding out
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: for this Taylor's. Taylor's about to be very happy. I
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: think next name up, Cam.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: Newton exactly I was. I was holding out hope for
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Cam Newton.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I got you, I got you.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Now I'm putting this position where Cam Newton's behind Baker Mayfield.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Michael Vick, Vince Young.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I'm okay with Michael Vick being ahead of Cam Newton.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with them.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: So I held out for a top three of Joe Burrow,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Cam Newton, and Tim Tebow, and I got all three
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: in the spots that I wanted.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I had Burrow, Tebow, and Jamis.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I'm terrible.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I have Jameis for I mean, Jamis was so good,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: so good.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: All right, So I'm stuck with this last quarterback at
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: number seven or nine.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you're putting Cam at seven.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I put Cam at seven.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Both of your number nine quarterbacks are Troy Smith, Bryce Young.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm good with that.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I don't get that.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Good.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: So to recap.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: If I was making a list of best quarterbacks in
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: college football since two thousand, that's where it'd slap Rice in.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: All right, so we're to recap Stu Gotts, Went, Joe Burrow,
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: Tim Tebow, Jameis Winston, Baker, Mayfield, Vince Young, Michael Vick,
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Cam Newton, Johnny Manzel, Vince Young, Deshaun Watson, Taylor Went,
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: Joe Burrow, Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, Jamis Winston, Vince Young,
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: Michael Vick, Baker, Mayfield, Johnny Manziel, Rice Young, Deshaun Watson.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: If you gave me those ten names and said just
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: rank them, not blind rankings, this is pretty close close
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: as I think I would come to ranking them.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: You did a good job.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: I'm okay, to be fair. I didn't see much of
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Michael Vick in college, he was great.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I mean the first time he stepped on an NFL field,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: it was down here in Miami, the Falcons taken on
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: the Dolphins. He was the fastest guy on the field
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: by a lot, Like it wasn't even closed. And I'm like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: that guy's gonna be the greatest quarterback that's ever lived.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Kind of like what I'm doing with Caleb Williams. Who
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: was the quarterback where you weren't certain of the range
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: in which he played It was twenty five to thirty
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: What was the quarterback?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Who was the quarterback?
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: You would think it was Michael Vick. I couldn't remember
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: if it was like thirty years ago. I knew he's
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: the oldest name on the list.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: All right, I feel good about my list, I did.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, Tim Tebow is number two. You could argue
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: he's the best college quarterback of all time. You could
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Burrow did it for a year.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, both of you. Having Burrow number one was shocking
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Why, I mean, it's the greatest offense and it was
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: one year, I know, but it was the greatest offense
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: in the history of college football.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Thought process there was I was putting Burrow one because
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: I didn't know if Cam Newton was coming. Cam Newton,
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: to me, is the best quarterback I've ever seen at
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: the college level. And I don't think I don't think
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: we're going to see a quarterback better at college than
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Cam Newton was.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you guys a question here, just
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: kind of, you know, kind of bringing these topics together
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: here on God Bless football. If Deshaun Watson had the
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: permanent spot at Clemson, which would be an odd thing
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: to give him based on what he's done here, But
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: if he had it, would Clemson win the ACC? Would
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: they be in national championship contention? If Deshaun Watson was
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: their quarterback this year?
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: If you put a starting NFL caliber quarterback on a
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: college team as.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: It started in three years, a higher level college team, yeah.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: They're they're they're walking. They're minus four hundred to win
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: the national championship.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: If you put Jamis back on Florida State.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: Minus seven hundred, Norvela is safe.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: If you put Vinji Young, does Arch Manning lose his job?
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: If Vince Young goes back to Texas?
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Vince Vince Young is tricky because nobody knows what kind
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: of shape Vince Young is in and I would imagine
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: it's not the best of shape.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, if that's what we're talking about, yeah, I can't.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I can't argue that.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: But if we're talking about Vince Young the athlete, then yeah,
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Vince Young is not letting arch manning tickets.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: If Tim Tebow goes back to Florida, are the Gators
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: competing for a national championship?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Here's a better question.
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: If Tim Tebow and Fernando Mendoz are in the same
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: room together, is that the nicest room that there's ever been?
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Well, that's obvious. Here's a better question. Cam Newton, who
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: started at Florida, If he went back to Florida, would
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: they be in national championship contention?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Easily?
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Alright, I have one more for you.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: If Michael Vick went back to Virginia Tech with their
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: permanent roster spot, do you think they'd win a national
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: championship at his current age?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: And who's the coach there?
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: I have no idea.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: You don't know who the coach in Virginia Tech is.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: Come on, man, no, James Franklin.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, damn.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: He's gonna lose the big game anyway. No matter what
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Vic though I.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Take it back.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Vic wouldn't go back because James Franklin's the head coach.