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- 0:08Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
- 0:11Speaker 1: ignition with the aaw Fan podcast team. This is Kelson
- 0:16Speaker 1: and I guess the best place to start is with
- 0:18Speaker 1: the news that Malachi Black, Ricky Starks, and Miro are
- 0:24Speaker 1: no longer with the company. From what I understand, they
- 0:29Speaker 1: were all removed from the aw roster page. There is
- 0:34Speaker 1: no non compete clause for either of them. They are
- 0:39Speaker 1: free to go anywhere they want immediately. Let's talk about it.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Where do you see these three guys going, if anywhere.
- 0:54Speaker 2: I'm not sure about Malachi, but I'm pretty sure. I
- 0:59Speaker 2: don't know if Mirro gonna go back to WW or not,
- 1:01Speaker 2: because I wasn't too sure when he left it. He
- 1:04Speaker 2: left on good terms with them, So Ricky probably will
- 1:07Speaker 2: be there in NXT within the next week or two.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't agree with that go ahead.
- 1:17Speaker 4: No, I said maybe maybe, But I think we might
- 1:20Speaker 4: get Ricky starts in the crowd on Saturday at Vengeance Day,
- 1:24Speaker 4: and obviously I think that would be a great spot
- 1:26Speaker 4: for him. W W e O don't give him what
- 1:29Speaker 4: he needs. He needs training and structure, and that's gonna
- 1:32Speaker 4: be perfect for him.
- 1:33Speaker 5: Mirro. It's hit or mess with Mirrow.
- 1:36Speaker 4: I think she could go to CNA, he could go back.
- 1:39Speaker 5: To w w E.
- 1:41Speaker 4: Hey, we don't know yet. But mal Kai Black, if
- 1:44Speaker 4: he doesn't go back to w w E, I'll be
- 1:48Speaker 4: I'll be surprised, Honestly, I'll be very surprised.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough?
- 1:53Speaker 1: Anybody else have any opinions on this?
- 1:56Speaker 6: I know I think that Ricky will events we end
- 2:00Speaker 6: up in WWE, But Mirro I think he might be
- 2:06Speaker 6: done completely. And Malachi Black, I really can't see him
- 2:11Speaker 6: going back over to WWE. Maybe he'll do some independent
- 2:15Speaker 6: wrestling and maybe a podcast or something like our podcast.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Right, Okay, anybody else.
- 2:28Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd be shocked at Malachi wouldn't return to WWE
- 2:31Speaker 7: and be with his wife, be able to travel with her,
- 2:34Speaker 7: you know. And SmackDown could probably use a few more
- 2:39Speaker 7: stars at the moment, you know, they've we're as kind
- 2:42Speaker 7: of absorbed all the guys on that end.
- 2:44Speaker 1: So yeah, anybody else has any opinion on where these
- 2:51Speaker 1: guys may end up? No, uh, well, well I'll just
- 2:59Speaker 1: express mine as far as Malachi Black goes. And again,
- 3:03Speaker 1: this is just an opinion. It's not an educated opinion
- 3:06Speaker 1: at all, you know, I'm an idiot, so just take
- 3:09Speaker 1: it at face value. Malachi Black, I think that maybe
- 3:15Speaker 1: Malachi may be done with wrestling. I really really believe that,
- 3:19Speaker 1: not one hundred percent. But I don't think that he
- 3:22Speaker 1: wants to be tied down to a company anymore. I
- 3:25Speaker 1: would actually be stocked if Malachi Black ended up back
- 3:29Speaker 1: into WWE. I think that he's probably going to be
- 3:33Speaker 1: doing things like a training school with as Net said,
- 3:38Speaker 1: some independent dates, which he's already done, you know, sprinkled
- 3:43Speaker 1: in there, and that's that now. As far as Miro,
- 3:48Speaker 1: I one hundred percent believe that Miro is done with wrestling.
- 3:52Speaker 1: I mean he's given no indication whatsoever of wrestling, whereas
- 3:57Speaker 1: Malachi Black has wrestled it in depend that chose and
- 4:01Speaker 1: is posted on the internet about wrestling and things like that.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Miro has been dead silent. I would not be surprised
- 4:09Speaker 1: if he is in Bulgaria right now and just live
- 4:12Speaker 1: in his best life, and good for him. But I
- 4:15Speaker 1: don't think that he's destined for anywhere other than whatever
- 4:21Speaker 1: he wants to do. And you know what, great for
- 4:24Speaker 1: him if he wants to go to WE, fine, if
- 4:27Speaker 1: he wants to start a training school, fine hell, Malky Black.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Even it kind of.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Strikes me as the kind of guy that would start
- 4:36Speaker 1: his own promotion, an independent promotion, just for to give back,
- 4:43Speaker 1: you know, give these new guys some training, let them
- 4:47Speaker 1: work on their wrestling skills and their other character.
- 4:51Speaker 2: I would be Mirros put to the hell before he
- 4:55Speaker 2: left WWE. I mean the whole Bubby Lashley, his wife,
- 5:00Speaker 2: that whole storyline was terrible, and I would I can
- 5:04Speaker 2: imagine him not going back, very very very easily not
- 5:07Speaker 2: going back there.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Now.
- 5:10Speaker 1: As far as Ricky Starks goes, this one is interesting
- 5:15Speaker 1: to me because Ricky Starks is kind of a pal
- 5:18Speaker 1: with seem Punk, so you know, just can't Sutton mute please.
- 5:28Speaker 1: He's a pal with See Them Punk and.
- 5:33Speaker 3: That's a fact.
- 5:35Speaker 1: But I will say this, usually when somebody leads AW
- 5:42Speaker 1: or even WWE, H I wish for them to get
- 5:48Speaker 1: you know, a new job, do whatever they do. I
- 5:52Speaker 1: personally believe that it will be a massive, massive mistake
- 5:58Speaker 1: for WW to take on Ricky Starks. I really do
- 6:02Speaker 1: believe that. I think that WW needs to send need
- 6:06Speaker 1: needs to send him on Indie run to get him
- 6:10Speaker 1: to get his you know, head out of his ass,
- 6:13Speaker 1: because The thing with Ricky Starks is that he thinks,
- 6:17Speaker 1: in my opinion, he thinks he's a lot better than
- 6:20Speaker 1: he actually is, and he's not. I'm agreeables, and you
- 6:26Speaker 1: know he he you know, aw fans for better or
- 6:33Speaker 1: for worse, many of them have called see I'm punk
- 6:36Speaker 1: of cancer. I put Ricky Starks in that category. There's
- 6:42Speaker 1: a reason why he was under contract and not used
- 6:45Speaker 1: for months and months and months and months. And that's
- 6:47Speaker 1: probably because, sorry, probably because he's a prick.
- 6:52Speaker 2: He bought the comparisons to the Rock. He bought into
- 6:55Speaker 2: that way way too much, way.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Way too much.
- 7:00Speaker 3: Does he have talent?
- 7:02Speaker 1: Sure? Why anybody would be a fan of him? I
- 7:05Speaker 1: have no idea. It's really it just really that's the
- 7:11Speaker 1: way I look at it. I just think that, you know,
- 7:14Speaker 1: generally speaking, I think that like I root for wrestlers
- 7:20Speaker 1: to find another job and live their best life, Ricky Starks,
- 7:25Speaker 1: I just don't feel that way. And I'm sorry. You know,
- 7:29Speaker 1: the guy is a He just doesn't strike me as
- 7:32Speaker 1: the type of person that I would want my home.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Put it that way. So that's my opinion to take
- 7:40Speaker 1: it the way you want it, because it's an uneducated opinion.
- 7:44Speaker 1: I've said I'm an idiot, but you know, the way
- 7:47Speaker 1: I judge character is that Ricky Starks doesn't have one.
- 7:53Speaker 6: I can't agree want Kelson. I saw him live Friday night,
- 8:00Speaker 6: and I didn't find anything impressive about him. I thought
- 8:06Speaker 6: maybe if I saw him in person, he might rub
- 8:09Speaker 6: off on me a little bit, but I didn't see
- 8:12Speaker 6: anything stand out about him. And I do think that
- 8:15Speaker 6: he will end up in WWE at some point. There's
- 8:21Speaker 6: a place for him somewhere where. I don't know, but yeah,
- 8:26Speaker 6: he's not my favorite guy either.
- 8:28Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I do think he did end up
- 8:31Speaker 3: in WWEI.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Like I said, I just think that WWE needs to
- 8:34Speaker 1: take steps two. I guess the best way to describe
- 8:38Speaker 1: it is to detox him because he's got some issues.
- 8:43Speaker 1: He really does. In my opinion, he just doesn't seem
- 8:45Speaker 1: like the type of guy that anybody really appreciated in
- 8:48Speaker 1: the locker room because he seems like a prick. Like
- 8:51Speaker 1: I said, I don't think that he's uh that guy.
- 8:58Speaker 7: So the locker room didn't like him.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Uh everyone, especially the people that were running the show.
- 9:07Speaker 1: I don't think that Tony Kahan liked him. I don't
- 9:09Speaker 1: think that any of the producers liked him. I don't
- 9:11Speaker 1: think that. I mean, look, the guy was healthy. He
- 9:16Speaker 1: said he'd never turned down creative. Sure this is coming
- 9:19Speaker 1: what from Ricky Starks. I don't think he was ever
- 9:23Speaker 1: presented with creative to be turned down. I mean, I
- 9:25Speaker 1: think that he was literally in wrestling terms, Ricky Starks
- 9:29Speaker 1: is a probably one of the best examples of someone
- 9:35Speaker 1: who got buried by a w He was literally buried.
- 9:42Speaker 1: What has he done?
- 9:45Speaker 6: What did he do to startle all of this?
- 9:49Speaker 7: I mean, Brian Danielson said he was the one that
- 9:53Speaker 7: called the match all out, praised him, said he hit
- 9:55Speaker 7: a home run. I mean, was candid in his praise
- 9:58Speaker 7: of him and his ability. Ponga a fan of Ricky Starks.
- 10:03Speaker 7: Cody Rhodes a fan of Ricky Starks.
- 10:08Speaker 3: That's well and fine.
- 10:10Speaker 1: That's well and fine. But what I'm saying is is
- 10:13Speaker 1: that you could be a fan of somebody's wrestling ability
- 10:18Speaker 1: or any ability that they have, whether it's a singer,
- 10:22Speaker 1: an actor, you know, whatever. Uh, but that doesn't necessarily
- 10:27Speaker 1: mean that they're a good person. And it just seems
- 10:31Speaker 1: to me like Ricky Starks is a little you know.
- 10:34Speaker 1: The only explanation I have for it is that Ricky
- 10:37Speaker 1: Starks is kind of a jerk. You know, any rub
- 10:40Speaker 1: people the wrong way. What other explanation could there possibly be.
- 10:45Speaker 1: He wasn't injured, so you know, in my opinion, it
- 10:53Speaker 1: seemed like Ricky Starks thought that he was a main
- 10:56Speaker 1: eventor when he's a lower mid carter and if he
- 11:01Speaker 1: does go to WWE, I wish him the best, but
- 11:07Speaker 1: he's not going to be He's not going to be
- 11:10Speaker 1: anything but a lord big carter WWE at best because
- 11:16Speaker 1: that's all he's got. You know, That's that's just my opinion.
- 11:22Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys disagree with me, by by
- 11:26Speaker 1: all means tell me you disagree with me. But that's
- 11:29Speaker 1: just my opinion on Ricky Starks.
- 11:31Speaker 8: Yeah, he's not a min event guy.
- 11:35Speaker 1: I mean, he and Big Bill were aw Tag team
- 11:39Speaker 1: champions and I thought that that run was really really
- 11:44Speaker 1: well done. But the thing about that run was that
- 11:47Speaker 1: was where people started to see that Big Bill was
- 11:51Speaker 1: emerging as kind of a star. And it wasn't Ricky
- 11:55Speaker 1: Starks that made that team go. It was Big Bill
- 11:58Speaker 1: that made the team go. Yeah, if you remember, it
- 12:04Speaker 1: was stinging Darby Allen to beat Big Bill and Ricky
- 12:09Speaker 1: Starks not much longer than a year ago. It was
- 12:12Speaker 1: like a year ago this week or last week that
- 12:15Speaker 1: they won the championship off of Ricky Stark's A Big Bill,
- 12:19Speaker 1: And of course then they carried it right through to
- 12:23Speaker 1: Sting's retirement match, and then they vacated and Ricky Stark's
- 12:27Speaker 1: A Big Bill were never seen or heard from again
- 12:30Speaker 1: as a tag team.
- 12:30Speaker 3: After that, it.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Was, you know, something happened. And then, of course you
- 12:35Speaker 1: have to remember it was that interchange between Adam Copeland
- 12:41Speaker 1: and Adam Copeland and Ricky Starks where Ricky Starks called,
- 12:49Speaker 1: you know, mentioned something about Adam Copeland's bug eyes, and
- 12:53Speaker 1: Adam Copland called him a vanilla.
- 12:54Speaker 3: Rock, and.
- 12:57Speaker 2: I love that. I kind of agree with you, But
- 13:01Speaker 2: I think the issue came down to the fact that
- 13:05Speaker 2: I think Ricky got off to a bad side of
- 13:09Speaker 2: everybody because I don't think he really wanted to lose
- 13:11Speaker 2: the titles to Sting in Darby. I think he thought
- 13:14Speaker 2: he was better than that and shouldn't have to put
- 13:16Speaker 2: those titles and give those titles up. I think, because
- 13:19Speaker 2: if you remember, that's where most of his trouble started
- 13:21Speaker 2: was around that time.
- 13:23Speaker 7: I disagree with that. I don't think he wanted the
- 13:25Speaker 7: tag team titles to begin with. I think he was
- 13:28Speaker 7: in the middle of a huge main event run on
- 13:29Speaker 7: Collision for the quote unquote Real World's Championship, supposed to
- 13:34Speaker 7: have a main event match with Punk. It all out,
- 13:36Speaker 7: the rugg got pulled from under him, and then he
- 13:39Speaker 7: got put in this tag team and he didn't want
- 13:40Speaker 7: to do I disagree with that. I don't think he
- 13:43Speaker 7: was mad about losing the titles. I think he was mad.
- 13:45Speaker 7: He was in a position that I think a lot
- 13:48Speaker 7: of guys strive for, and it was it was taken
- 13:50Speaker 7: from him.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Yeah, but that wasn't That wasn't that wasn't anybody's fault
- 13:54Speaker 2: but Punks.
- 13:55Speaker 7: I mean that was continuing to push him as a star.
- 13:59Speaker 7: I mean, I don't he was in a position working
- 14:02Speaker 7: for a title that was on collision. You know, we
- 14:05Speaker 7: can say it wasn't valid, but belts the belt Punk
- 14:08Speaker 7: technically never lost it.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Well, but the thing about that is is it was
- 14:13Speaker 2: something that was It was partially Tony's Falders, partially Punk's faulds,
- 14:17Speaker 2: partially everybody's fault that was involved in it. But the
- 14:21Speaker 2: thing comes down to you can't continue to push somebody
- 14:24Speaker 2: for something that doesn't exist anymore. So when Pup was released,
- 14:28Speaker 2: yeah he could have pushed him. But if you're getting
- 14:31Speaker 2: a reaction from somebody, that's like pissy because something fell through.
- 14:37Speaker 2: That Shit happens in this game. It's not like you
- 14:39Speaker 2: can count on everything being the same every week in
- 14:41Speaker 2: and week in week out. You got people get hurt,
- 14:44Speaker 2: people get fired, people do stupid crap, and it's just
- 14:47Speaker 2: one of those things where I don't think he handled
- 14:49Speaker 2: it right. That's where it came. That's when his problems started.
- 14:53Speaker 6: Maybe he didn't handle it right, but I feel like
- 14:56Speaker 6: maybe people around him didn't handle it properly either. They
- 15:00Speaker 6: could have kept the momentum on Ricky going. I mean,
- 15:04Speaker 6: we talk about creative all the time. There's something that
- 15:09Speaker 6: they could have switched him to that would have kept
- 15:12Speaker 6: his build going and made him bigger and bigger and bigger,
- 15:18Speaker 6: and for whatever reason, they just kind of dropped them.
- 15:23Speaker 6: And so I can see him having some frustration there.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Well, Dett let me bring this up because and I
- 15:30Speaker 1: don't remember the dates because honestly, I just don't, but
- 15:34Speaker 1: I think somewhere around late twenty twenty two, maybe early
- 15:40Speaker 1: twenty three through early twenty twenty four, a w was
- 15:46Speaker 1: making an effort to push Ricky Starks, and stuff kept happening.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Ricky Starks even made a promo about it in Ray,
- 16:00Speaker 1: alluding to the fact that he would get into a
- 16:03Speaker 1: program with this person and that person would get injured,
- 16:06Speaker 1: He'd get into a program with another person and that
- 16:08Speaker 1: person got suspended. And that's the truth. I mean, everything
- 16:14Speaker 1: he seemed to do was derailed to a point, even
- 16:19Speaker 1: like with the CM punk thing, you know, and I
- 16:21Speaker 1: admitted this, and I said this a couple of weeks
- 16:24Speaker 1: ago when he had his match against CM Punk on Collision,
- 16:29Speaker 1: and even CM Punk said this that Ricky Starks carried
- 16:33Speaker 1: him through that match. Ricky Starks had a decent match
- 16:37Speaker 1: because CM Punk was just awful. He was slow, he
- 16:41Speaker 1: was plotting, he was wrestling like a sixty year old
- 16:44Speaker 1: that had no business being in a ring. And Ricky
- 16:47Speaker 1: Starks literally carried him through that and everybody saw it.
- 16:51Speaker 3: You know.
- 16:51Speaker 1: I think a lot of the downfall for Ricky Starks
- 16:55Speaker 1: was if you remember that chair shot to Brian Danielson's
- 16:59Speaker 1: leg and the corner where Ricky Starks had a chair
- 17:02Speaker 1: and he was standing awe on the floor while Danielson
- 17:07Speaker 1: was literally laying with his leg wrapped around the corner,
- 17:13Speaker 1: and Ricky Starks swung the chair to hit Danielsen's leg
- 17:18Speaker 1: and missed Danielson's leg by at least two feet, and
- 17:21Speaker 1: somebody in the crowd said something about it, and Ricky
- 17:24Speaker 1: Starks tore them a new asshole. I mean, yeah, you
- 17:29Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. To me, it just seems
- 17:34Speaker 1: to me like that's who Ricky Starks is. He's got,
- 17:37Speaker 1: you know, in his mind, he has big balls when
- 17:41Speaker 1: he doesn't, you know, And I think that that's the problem.
- 17:45Speaker 3: I think.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Look, regardless of what you think, the fact of the
- 17:51Speaker 1: matter is is that, for all we know and all
- 17:56Speaker 1: that's been reported, Ricky Starks has been healthy for all
- 17:59Speaker 1: these months and not used by aw There's a reason
- 18:02Speaker 1: for that.
- 18:04Speaker 6: I want you all to have a good thought for
- 18:07Speaker 6: me because I go to the Independence here in Seattle
- 18:12Speaker 6: and Ricky Starks on Friday night became defied champion. So
- 18:17Speaker 6: I'm going to be seeing a lot more of him,
- 18:20Speaker 6: and have a good thought for that, because I don't
- 18:23Speaker 6: want to see him.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Well you know what it is, you know, Ricky, Ricky
- 18:30Speaker 1: could be Ricky could be a big star. However, I
- 18:36Speaker 1: feel that he's been a victim of circumstance. I do
- 18:40Speaker 1: believe that when aw was trying to push him, there
- 18:44Speaker 1: was suspensions, there were injuries. I even think Ricky Starks
- 18:47Speaker 1: got suspended at one point. I don't remember if it
- 18:49Speaker 1: was k Faber for real, but I do know there
- 18:53Speaker 1: was suspension of all Ricky Starks at one point. But
- 18:56Speaker 1: the other thing is is that he's he just and
- 19:03Speaker 1: again this is just my opinion. He just seems to
- 19:05Speaker 1: get in his own way. If Ricky Starks can get
- 19:08Speaker 1: his head out of his ass and wrestle and do
- 19:12Speaker 1: what he's told to do, you know, then you know,
- 19:20Speaker 1: and act like he enjoys it. I guess that he'll
- 19:23Speaker 1: be successful if he continues down the current path that
- 19:27Speaker 1: he's on, which obviously is not working based on the
- 19:31Speaker 1: amount of work he's had in the company that employed him.
- 19:35Speaker 1: There's a reason for that. As I said, there's a reason.
- 19:39Speaker 1: So everybody can't be wrong, everybody can't be right, so
- 19:46Speaker 1: there's a reason. Let's just put it that way. It
- 19:49Speaker 1: could be that just Tony Kan just didn't like the
- 19:52Speaker 1: guy for whatever reason and said I'm not going to
- 19:54Speaker 1: use him, you know, and there's no other reason other
- 19:58Speaker 1: than Tony kanj just didn't like him. That's it. You
- 20:03Speaker 1: never know, and we probably will never know, you know.
- 20:07Speaker 1: And I will say this is that if Ricky Starks
- 20:10Speaker 1: does go to WWE, he should keep his mouth shut
- 20:13Speaker 1: about it because it seems to be like if he
- 20:16Speaker 1: opens his mouth and says, this is the reason why
- 20:18Speaker 1: I wasn't used, it was all their fault. I think
- 20:20Speaker 1: that a lot of stories will come out about Rickey Starks,
- 20:26Speaker 1: you know, from the locker room on up so Hey.
- 20:30Speaker 4: But Kilson, however, if he does end up in w
- 20:35Speaker 4: w E, and that's why I think that's the right
- 20:37Speaker 4: spot for him, because WWE will give him that structure.
- 20:41Speaker 4: It'll give him, you know, people that he that he
- 20:45Speaker 4: needs to answer to, that being Sewn Michaels, Matt Boom,
- 20:50Speaker 4: all the NXT heads. He's gonna have to answer to them.
- 20:53Speaker 4: And I know Seawn Michaels will not take his bs.
- 21:00Speaker 1: That's well and fine, But my point is when you
- 21:03Speaker 1: have when you're working for a company that is known
- 21:06Speaker 1: meaning a w for being more lenient, I guess it's
- 21:15Speaker 1: the best way to put it or more open to
- 21:17Speaker 1: having talent come up with their own ideas and present
- 21:24Speaker 1: their own ideas, and you can't make it work there
- 21:28Speaker 1: Ricky Starks at WWE.
- 21:34Speaker 3: No, And I'm gonna be honest with you.
- 21:36Speaker 1: I mean, people are you know saying and I've seen it,
- 21:40Speaker 1: you know, posted many times already. Ricky Starks a WWE
- 21:44Speaker 1: he's going to be a big guy in WWE. I
- 21:47Speaker 1: don't hold your breath on that. He just he's not.
- 21:50Speaker 1: He doesn't have the talent to be a big guy
- 21:52Speaker 1: in WWE. He may be a friend of Seeing Punk
- 21:56Speaker 1: and he may be a friend of Cody Rhodes, but
- 21:59Speaker 1: he's not and never will be on their level of
- 22:02Speaker 1: what they are now and what they used to be
- 22:05Speaker 1: because Ricky Starks just isn't that guy. And that's just
- 22:09Speaker 1: my opinion and I stand by it. I have never
- 22:12Speaker 1: been let me put it this way, I have rarely
- 22:17Speaker 1: been impressed by anything that's Ricky Starks did in AAW
- 22:21Speaker 1: I wish him the best, Defy is probably the best
- 22:24Speaker 1: place for him, but I just i'd never got him.
- 22:28Speaker 1: I don't understand why anybody would be a fan of him,
- 22:31Speaker 1: I really don't.
- 22:33Speaker 4: I mean, is there just how curious is there a
- 22:35Speaker 4: possibility he would end up back in GCW.
- 22:40Speaker 1: There's a possibility for anything. I mean, there's a possibility
- 22:43Speaker 1: you can end up back at AAW. You never know,
- 22:46Speaker 1: you know, it's just one of those things. I'm just
- 22:48Speaker 1: saying that, as far as the locker room goes without
- 22:54Speaker 1: without Ricky Starks in AW, I believe that the locker
- 23:00Speaker 1: was a better place right now and has been since
- 23:05Speaker 1: he's been basically not part of the shows.
- 23:12Speaker 4: I mean, in a way, yes, they probably his really
- 23:17Speaker 4: is probably dead aid to the locker room morale being
- 23:23Speaker 4: more positive.
- 23:24Speaker 5: But y'all will get the bigger picture.
- 23:28Speaker 1: My thing is is that if if, just for an example,
- 23:31Speaker 1: if Ricky Starks does go to WWE, I'm sure he'll
- 23:34Speaker 1: get a big pop from the crowd. I'm sure he'll
- 23:37Speaker 1: be put in a nice program more more than likely
- 23:39Speaker 1: on NXT uh and he may even get some sort
- 23:44Speaker 1: of title. I don't know, you know what the NXT
- 23:47Speaker 1: titles picture is like right now. But I also believe
- 23:51Speaker 1: that in a matter of time, maybe two three months,
- 23:56Speaker 1: it's gonna fall apart because Ricky Starks. Max she said,
- 24:03Speaker 1: you said it, and I agree with you that WWE
- 24:06Speaker 1: has a much stricter structure and shat Michaels won't put
- 24:09Speaker 1: up with that kind of thing. That's not good for
- 24:14Speaker 1: Ricky Starks because that's what he does. So that's that. Well, Look,
- 24:21Speaker 1: let's move on because I want to talk about Grand
- 24:24Speaker 1: Slam Australia. We got five matches on the card and
- 24:28Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on these matches. We're
- 24:32Speaker 1: going to cover each match. Some of them will probably
- 24:35Speaker 1: cover in depth, some of them will probably gloss over
- 24:37Speaker 1: a little bit because maybe we're not as enthusiastic about them.
- 24:41Speaker 1: But we'll see because we've not discussed about it. So
- 24:44Speaker 1: let's start with John Moxley and I believe it's claudiocastic
- 24:50Speaker 1: Noley going against Adam Copeland and Jay White in a
- 24:56Speaker 1: Brisbane ball brawl. I'm sorry, not a ball but a brawl. Uh,
- 25:01Speaker 1: what are you guys thinking about this match? What do you?
- 25:03Speaker 8: What do you?
- 25:03Speaker 1: What do you? What are your thoughts? Just who's gonna win?
- 25:10Speaker 1: I don't know? Is this a match that uh that's
- 25:14Speaker 1: got your enthusiasm high?
- 25:18Speaker 2: Two weeks ago I would have said that it's gonna
- 25:20Speaker 2: be a squash match in the end, that the death
- 25:23Speaker 2: Riders are going to come out and totally destroy them.
- 25:26Speaker 2: But with the way things have changed in the last
- 25:28Speaker 2: week or so, I'm not sure. I think it's going
- 25:32Speaker 2: to be a good match, because the four guys involved
- 25:34Speaker 2: will put on one a hell of a match. They
- 25:36Speaker 2: will beat the living crap out of each other. But
- 25:39Speaker 2: I don't know. I could actually see Cope and uh
- 25:44Speaker 2: White winning.
- 25:44Speaker 3: It, Okay, anybody else?
- 25:53Speaker 8: Yeah, the Cope and Adam White there. I I like it.
- 26:01Speaker 8: Jay White, I just seem neat for this match. That's
- 26:06Speaker 8: all struggling to find a reason why there has to
- 26:10Speaker 8: be this match, Like there's no championship on the line,
- 26:16Speaker 8: and Moxley's right there, he's the champ. So I don't know.
- 26:20Speaker 8: I don't have high hopes for it.
- 26:24Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not excited about it. I really could care
- 26:29Speaker 6: less about this one. I don't like the fact that
- 26:33Speaker 6: they've paired Jay White up with anyone. I think Jay
- 26:37Speaker 6: White is outstanding by himself. I'm tired of kind of
- 26:42Speaker 6: seeing him always grouped in with somebody. He should be
- 26:45Speaker 6: left to do his own thing, and I would much
- 26:50Speaker 6: rather see a title defense by Moxley. But at this point,
- 26:54Speaker 6: I'm starting to think that mox actually lost that championship belt.
- 27:00Speaker 6: He is not carrying it around anywhere. I think he
- 27:03Speaker 6: misplaced it somewhere. And the reason they haven't had any
- 27:07Speaker 6: any matches for it is because he can't find the
- 27:11Speaker 6: damn thing. So that's my two cents.
- 27:15Speaker 1: That's an interesting theory.
- 27:22Speaker 6: Yeah, it's missing. He lost it at the airport.
- 27:25Speaker 1: Something happened to it, the briefcase or whatever that is
- 27:29Speaker 1: just there.
- 27:32Speaker 6: Yeah, like you know, he maybe he tells Tony Kahan
- 27:36Speaker 6: he can't find the key, you know, like Tony's like,
- 27:39Speaker 6: let me see the belt. Oh, I can't find the key.
- 27:41Speaker 6: I misplaced the key and the belts, you know, like
- 27:44Speaker 6: in baggage check somewhere. So it's my suspicion.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody else with thoughts on this match?
- 27:53Speaker 4: Okay, I want to piggyback on what that just said
- 27:59Speaker 4: that I think that I think they might.
- 28:02Speaker 5: Be getting a whole new belt completely. I think that Tony's.
- 28:06Speaker 4: Gonna, you know, bring out a whole.
- 28:09Speaker 5: New world Championship belt designed.
- 28:11Speaker 4: That's why I think it is, and that whoever beats
- 28:14Speaker 4: Mark so he is gonna get that new belt.
- 28:19Speaker 1: Okay, Red, I think you you were chiming in.
- 28:25Speaker 7: I want to see j White use a boomerang in
- 28:27Speaker 7: this match. Exs.
- 28:31Speaker 8: Yes, I agree with Max.
- 28:34Speaker 7: I think the gimmick here is going to be the
- 28:36Speaker 7: title was like either destroyed or thrown in the Ohio river,
- 28:40Speaker 7: and we're gonna get a new belt. H Otherwise, opening
- 28:46Speaker 7: that case will be a cathartic moment. I suppose that's
- 28:50Speaker 7: because you like the babyface who wins, or you hate
- 28:53Speaker 7: John Moxley.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I think gonna win.
- 29:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 29:01Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be more to this match than
- 29:03Speaker 1: what is being presented. And again, nobody has brought this up,
- 29:11Speaker 1: and I've mentioned this weeks in a row, and this
- 29:13Speaker 1: is kind of like a very strange phenomenon because people
- 29:20Speaker 1: have forgotten about it. But you've got John Moxley and
- 29:23Speaker 1: Claudio Castignoli going against Adam Copeland and Jay White. This
- 29:28Speaker 1: is gonna be a brutal match. This is gonna be
- 29:31Speaker 1: a very physical match. People who have been mentioning that
- 29:33Speaker 1: John Moxley hasn't bled in weeks and weeks and weeks
- 29:36Speaker 1: and weeks and weeks, well, I think he's definitely gonna
- 29:39Speaker 1: bleed in this match. I think that it's gonna really
- 29:42Speaker 1: be Copeland and Moxley facing off against each other and
- 29:46Speaker 1: beating the crap out of each other. But what I
- 29:50Speaker 1: think and what I really am wondering if this is
- 29:56Speaker 1: going to happen, is again we forgot about Christian Cage
- 30:02Speaker 1: and the fact that he has that open contract, and
- 30:07Speaker 1: if John Moxley gets the crap beaten out of him,
- 30:12Speaker 1: win or lose, we may see Christian Cage come to
- 30:17Speaker 1: the ring and try to cash in and then what
- 30:21Speaker 1: happens there. I mean, Copeland's going to be there, his
- 30:24Speaker 1: whole partner. There's all kinds of things can happen. That's
- 30:28Speaker 1: one of the weaknesses right now of aw is that
- 30:32Speaker 1: Christian Cage has been walking around with this contract for
- 30:36Speaker 1: how many months now and nothing has been done with
- 30:41Speaker 1: it to the point where has happened just now and
- 30:45Speaker 1: what's happened again, This has happened several weeks in a row,
- 30:48Speaker 1: and we've been talking about this. Nobody is even remembering
- 30:51Speaker 1: Christian Cage and his involvement and you know, and his
- 30:55Speaker 1: prospective involvement in this. So that's where I'm my interest
- 31:02Speaker 1: in this match lies is not necessarily in the match.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Because of the five matches, this to me is by
- 31:09Speaker 1: far the weakest match with the least amount of uh
- 31:14Speaker 1: well for me like interest having interest. But if Christian
- 31:18Speaker 1: Cage does come out, then it could be a talking point.
- 31:22Speaker 1: It could be must CTV.
- 31:25Speaker 5: Well.
- 31:26Speaker 2: I think the problem with everybody for getting Christian Cage
- 31:28Speaker 2: is is because no one takes him as a legitimate contender.
- 31:31Speaker 2: I mean, everybody knows he's gonna come out, and he's
- 31:34Speaker 2: either gonna come out and waste the title match against
- 31:36Speaker 2: Moxley or he's gonna have to he's gonna use it
- 31:40Speaker 2: when somebody finally beats Moxley to try to steal their spotlight.
- 31:45Speaker 2: I don't take him as a I mean literally, he's
- 31:47Speaker 2: had this title shot for how long nine months, almost
- 31:50Speaker 2: a year, and the only thing you get using it
- 31:54Speaker 2: for is beating somebody over the head with the case.
- 31:56Speaker 2: That's the only thing he's used it for. They don't
- 31:58Speaker 2: use the the the uh the patriarchy very much. They're
- 32:02Speaker 2: they're stuck in a loop with doing little minor stuff.
- 32:05Speaker 2: So it's almost as if this part of the story
- 32:07Speaker 2: has become nothing.
- 32:11Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, would it be funny if Christian Cage
- 32:13Speaker 1: does come out with this contract and that that case
- 32:18Speaker 1: that it's being held in is so beat up that
- 32:20Speaker 1: he can't get it open, and therefore he can't get
- 32:23Speaker 1: the shotless.
- 32:28Speaker 6: He's going through so much as it is.
- 32:30Speaker 4: And just do it so you open the case physically.
- 32:37Speaker 3: I think so.
- 32:37Speaker 1: I mean, he's got the contract in there that's supposedly Yeah,
- 32:40Speaker 1: you know, everybody knows.
- 32:45Speaker 4: I would have figured Tony true, like the money in
- 32:48Speaker 4: the bank, that you don't have the case.
- 32:54Speaker 2: Yeah, that would exactly what Brin said.
- 32:56Speaker 1: That would be I'd just say that it would be
- 32:58Speaker 1: funny if that was the case. You know that that
- 33:02Speaker 1: he was supposed to be able to take out the
- 33:04Speaker 1: contract and hand it to the referee, but he can't
- 33:07Speaker 1: get the case open. I think that would be.
- 33:09Speaker 2: That would be hilarious.
- 33:11Speaker 4: Then you just get the rest the case like they
- 33:14Speaker 4: do want to.
- 33:16Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm talking about for humor sake. I'm
- 33:19Speaker 1: not being serious.
- 33:20Speaker 3: I'm just being.
- 33:23Speaker 2: Would be hilarious. He throw a little tantrum. You have
- 33:25Speaker 2: a Christian kan trim in the middle of the ring,
- 33:29Speaker 2: we would have it.
- 33:30Speaker 6: That would do Christian cage. And he's had a lot
- 33:33Speaker 6: of moments.
- 33:34Speaker 4: This would be its beats marks. And he tries to
- 33:39Speaker 4: open the case that the title is supposedly in and
- 33:43Speaker 4: there's nothing in there.
- 33:49Speaker 5: He opens a covenant. He opens up and there's a
- 33:52Speaker 5: bunch of dust.
- 33:55Speaker 1: And it kills everybody Like Indy added Jones and uh
- 33:59Speaker 1: waiters are lost time.
- 34:03Speaker 6: This story once and a while.
- 34:06Speaker 3: Everywhere.
- 34:07Speaker 4: Yeah, like five months ago when when MAXI was doing
- 34:12Speaker 4: that whole you know German thing that would have been
- 34:14Speaker 4: a fun Yeah.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Did D have something to say here?
- 34:20Speaker 7: If Christian Cage beats it or Cash is in his
- 34:24Speaker 7: contract at Grand Slam beats Moxley for the title and
- 34:28Speaker 7: we get Adam Copeland versus Christian Cage, your revolution. JF
- 34:33Speaker 7: was right, this is all elderly wrestling.
- 34:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you. Uh, I agree
- 34:42Speaker 1: with you. You know I I said it in the
- 34:44Speaker 1: past and I'll say it again. I like a W's
- 34:48Speaker 1: the younger kids, you know, I call them kids, the
- 34:51Speaker 1: people that are that are a W originals and the
- 34:55Speaker 1: ones that had toiled in the in the Indies without
- 34:58Speaker 1: getting a proper shot l I swear and AW has
- 35:02Speaker 1: put them on TV and made them recognizable, I guess
- 35:07Speaker 1: is the best way.
- 35:07Speaker 3: Of putting it.
- 35:08Speaker 1: That's what I watch AW for AW four. I don't
- 35:11Speaker 1: watch AW to see Adam Copeland. Even this is nothing
- 35:17Speaker 1: against Adam Copeland, and I do enjoy seeing Adam Copland
- 35:21Speaker 1: and Christian Cage at John Moxley. I do enjoy watching them,
- 35:26Speaker 1: but that's not why I watched the shows. I watched
- 35:29Speaker 1: the shows for Darby Allen and Julia Hart, you know,
- 35:34Speaker 1: and even for guys like Jay White, Max Caster, Anthony Bowens.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Those are the people I want to see. You see
- 35:43Speaker 1: what I'm saying there, And I agree with you the
- 35:47Speaker 1: all elderly wrestling, like m J. Epp said, Yeah, there's
- 35:52Speaker 1: a point where you just gotta say, you know, hey,
- 35:57Speaker 1: Adam Copland came out a few months ago saying that
- 35:59Speaker 1: he there for the rest of his time. He's retiring
- 36:02Speaker 1: with AAW in a couple of years. We brought this
- 36:06Speaker 1: up last last week. You know, hey, where do we
- 36:09Speaker 1: see AAW five years from now? Well, the fact of
- 36:12Speaker 1: the matter is is that Adam Copland is not going
- 36:15Speaker 1: to be with AAW five years from now. FDR isn't
- 36:19Speaker 1: going to be with AW five years from now. Chances
- 36:22Speaker 1: are none of those guys are going to be wrestling,
- 36:24Speaker 1: and there's others Jeff Jarrett probably won't be wrestling anymore,
- 36:28Speaker 1: you've got to do a changing of the guard. And
- 36:30Speaker 1: when you do the changing of guard, you've got to
- 36:32Speaker 1: use those older wrestlers, those all elderly wrestlers to put
- 36:36Speaker 1: over the young guys that are going to carry the
- 36:38Speaker 1: company forward.
- 36:41Speaker 6: You didn't mention that Chris Jericho probably won't be there
- 36:45Speaker 6: in five years. Do you think he's going to hold
- 36:47Speaker 6: on until his last breath.
- 36:49Speaker 1: I think Chris Jericho will be out there whacking people
- 36:52Speaker 1: with a walker.
- 36:58Speaker 2: He'll be the twenty time rest champion.
- 37:02Speaker 1: Let me put it this way, I will die before
- 37:05Speaker 1: Chris Jericho will stop wrestling.
- 37:09Speaker 4: I think Chris Virago will die and be reincordinated and
- 37:13Speaker 4: his ghost will wrestle.
- 37:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, darbiolog is gonna do a coffin match
- 37:18Speaker 1: and Christ Jericho is going to be in it. You
- 37:21Speaker 1: know that's But anyway, let's move on because we've got
- 37:29Speaker 1: four more matches to go, and I don't really know
- 37:32Speaker 1: the order to go with, but so I'm going to
- 37:33Speaker 1: save the three of the five matches are actually title matches,
- 37:38Speaker 1: So I'm going to go with the non title match.
- 37:40Speaker 1: And look, I mean, this is an interesting match. He
- 37:43Speaker 1: got Will Osprey and Kenny Omega against Kenoski Takeshta, that
- 37:48Speaker 1: gorgeous human being and Kyle Fletcher, the hometown boy. This
- 37:54Speaker 1: match could be fun. I expect it to be probably
- 38:01Speaker 1: arguably maybe the match of the night match your contender,
- 38:06Speaker 1: definitely a tag team match at your contender. I see
- 38:09Speaker 1: a lot of big things happening for this match. What
- 38:11Speaker 1: do you think about this match and any predictions?
- 38:20Speaker 2: This is a tough one because, I mean, if you
- 38:25Speaker 2: have to catch it in company win, I can see
- 38:29Speaker 2: that happening that way. Extends a little bit. The rivalry
- 38:32Speaker 2: with don kallis family for those guys. But it's just
- 38:35Speaker 2: gonna depend on where they want to go after this.
- 38:39Speaker 2: I mean, they could keep them as a team, they
- 38:42Speaker 2: could have this be the only time these two team
- 38:45Speaker 2: up in Ostprey and Omega. I mean, it definitely has
- 38:49Speaker 2: connotations to being the greatest match in the night for
- 38:52Speaker 2: damn sure. But it's definitely going to be a fast paced,
- 38:56Speaker 2: high action match.
- 38:58Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 38:59Speaker 1: I mean, these guys all impress me. Even though Kenny
- 39:03Speaker 1: Omega is kind of like on the all elderly side,
- 39:08Speaker 1: he's got that aura still, I mean he's not one
- 39:10Speaker 1: of those we're watching Kenny Omega because out of respect
- 39:16Speaker 1: for what he's done in the past. Can't We're watching
- 39:18Speaker 1: Kenny Omega because of what he can do right now. Yeah,
- 39:22Speaker 1: you know, I don't think anybody would say even though
- 39:25Speaker 1: Kenny Mega is definitely a veteran, you know, I don't
- 39:29Speaker 1: think they consider him on the elderly side, and because
- 39:33Speaker 1: of his diverticulitis and his struggles with that. I mean,
- 39:38Speaker 1: he's definitely a sentimental favorite, even for non fans.
- 39:43Speaker 2: You know who takes the pin? Yeah, you've got You've
- 39:50Speaker 2: got four the you got four, the best in the
- 39:52Speaker 2: in aw going up in this match. And I can
- 39:56Speaker 2: see a bad thing for any of them taking the pin.
- 40:00Speaker 2: And I can see the benefits of of I can
- 40:02Speaker 2: see the benefits of Osprey beating Uh. Yeah, I can
- 40:08Speaker 2: see Osprey taking getting the pin over.
- 40:11Speaker 1: Uh.
- 40:12Speaker 3: I can't Kyle Well his picture.
- 40:15Speaker 1: Fletcher, the picture, the picture is right there.
- 40:19Speaker 2: I was seeing it, I was saying it. I just
- 40:21Speaker 2: couldn't think of a name, wouldn't come.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Jeez.
- 40:25Speaker 2: I can see this breaking down into to ketch the
- 40:28Speaker 2: versus Omega and Fletcher versus Osprey and a lot of it.
- 40:32Speaker 3: Uh.
- 40:32Speaker 2: It's definitely going to be one of those matches that
- 40:35Speaker 2: you just sit back and go.
- 40:36Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, well this is a good time to break in.
- 40:41Speaker 1: And you know, you know, for all the kids listening
- 40:43Speaker 1: to this and listening to Sutton Follovers, Tom Cesana sat
- 40:49Speaker 1: on Wednesday night just to you know, just to say,
- 40:54Speaker 1: crack as whack, don't do it kids.
- 40:56Speaker 2: There you go, that's just getting old, that's all.
- 41:00Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 41:00Speaker 6: Yeah, he's part of the all elderly wrestling.
- 41:03Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to be mean well. And I am.
- 41:14Speaker 2: Communire with the Jeff Jarretts and the and the and
- 41:17Speaker 2: the and those guys. I don't know if I want
- 41:18Speaker 2: to be in that group.
- 41:20Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is that Sun and I are
- 41:22Speaker 1: at the age where we could look at guys like
- 41:25Speaker 1: John Moxley and Adam Copeland and and even like Dustin
- 41:29Speaker 1: Rhoades and stuff, you know, and not all not for
- 41:32Speaker 1: each of them, but for most of them, we can say,
- 41:35Speaker 1: oh those kids, yeah boys, yeah, those I remember when
- 41:41Speaker 1: I saw them growing, you know, when I I saw them,
- 41:45Speaker 1: you know, when they were sixteen years old wrestling gonna
- 41:48Speaker 1: in a barnyard or something. Yeah. But anyway, yeah, this
- 41:53Speaker 1: this match is this match is It's weird with this
- 41:58Speaker 1: match because It doesn't really matter who wins and who
- 42:02Speaker 1: takes the pin. What matters in this match is that
- 42:05Speaker 1: the expectations for it to be just a really entertaining match.
- 42:08Speaker 1: Would you guys agree with that?
- 42:11Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 42:12Speaker 6: I would agree, Yeah for sure.
- 42:15Speaker 1: All Right, well let's move on because we now have
- 42:18Speaker 1: the three title matches, and let's start with Mercedes Monet
- 42:25Speaker 1: versus Harley Cameron for the TBS Championship. We're in Australia.
- 42:31Speaker 1: Harley Cameron's from austral Australia. She's getting a huge push
- 42:35Speaker 1: right now. Do you see any chance that Harley Cameron
- 42:43Speaker 1: beats Mercedes Money in this match? Anybody?
- 42:51Speaker 6: Oh? I think she could pull out a surprise win
- 42:57Speaker 6: just for the heck of it, But realistically I don't
- 43:01Speaker 6: see her beating Mercedes.
- 43:05Speaker 3: Well, now let me ask you a question.
- 43:07Speaker 1: If, by chance, Harley Cameron does win this match, would
- 43:11Speaker 1: you kind of think that Mercedes Monet would exercise her
- 43:15Speaker 1: rematch clause for March ninth, the Revolution to win it back.
- 43:23Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 43:24Speaker 6: I don't know, because Mercedes has a lot of belts,
- 43:28Speaker 6: she's got a lot going on. You know, she might
- 43:32Speaker 6: be angry, but I don't know if she'd be bothered
- 43:38Speaker 6: that much. Maybe she'd be too humiliated to try to
- 43:41Speaker 6: wrestle her again, you know, like the high fame thing.
- 43:45Speaker 4: Yeah so I don't know, Okay, but Harley Cameron is over.
- 43:50Speaker 4: She's pretty almost over person in aw right now. If
- 43:54Speaker 4: they don't strike with Iron is Hot, this is not
- 43:59Speaker 4: gonna happen again.
- 44:00Speaker 5: And everyone's already tired of Mercedes.
- 44:04Speaker 1: I wouldn't say everyone are already tired of Mercedes. You
- 44:08Speaker 1: may be tired of Mercedes, but not everyone is tired
- 44:10Speaker 1: of Mercedes.
- 44:11Speaker 2: They're gonna do what they've always done in this situation,
- 44:14Speaker 2: and Harley's gonna get squashed. Her momentum is going to
- 44:17Speaker 2: be crushed because they're not taking the belt off Mercedes yet.
- 44:19Speaker 2: It's just not gonna happen.
- 44:23Speaker 1: Do whatever you think that there may be something that
- 44:26Speaker 1: happens in this match where Harley Cameron is, for lack
- 44:29Speaker 1: of better terms, screwed out of the win here, and
- 44:33Speaker 1: that a rematch is set on behalf of Harley Cameron
- 44:36Speaker 1: for Revolution.
- 44:41Speaker 7: I think this is going to be competitive. I mean,
- 44:42Speaker 7: this is her hometown crowd. This is as close as
- 44:45Speaker 7: she's going to get to where she grew up at.
- 44:47Speaker 7: I think this is going to be competitive. I think
- 44:49Speaker 7: it's probably gonna end airly. I don't think there's gonna
- 44:53Speaker 7: be any chicanery. I mean, Harley Cameron, like they've pointed out,
- 44:57Speaker 7: has never won a television match until last two Saturdays ago.
- 45:02Speaker 3: I mean one a match period.
- 45:06Speaker 7: Okay, never won a mats period. So I mean this
- 45:08Speaker 7: is a big you know, just the fact that she's
- 45:11Speaker 7: on the card against Mercedes Money is a big deal.
- 45:14Speaker 1: Yeah, well don't for you also, you know, just for
- 45:17Speaker 1: for reference, you know, during the Jericho Cruz, Harley Cameron
- 45:22Speaker 1: did win did wrestle in two matches during the Jericho
- 45:26Speaker 1: Cruz and won both matches. So she went from win
- 45:31Speaker 1: list to three wins in a row. Now, so there
- 45:36Speaker 1: you go.
- 45:41Speaker 3: Yeah, So.
- 45:44Speaker 1: Mercedes Monet and Harley Cameron, this is an interesting match
- 45:52Speaker 1: matchup because for her, So I think this is gonna
- 45:56Speaker 1: be the shortest match of the night.
- 45:57Speaker 3: I really do. Uh But but.
- 46:02Speaker 1: There's a lot of story that could happen here. I
- 46:05Speaker 1: really do think that this is one of the matches
- 46:08Speaker 1: where their story that's gonna happen here. And after we
- 46:11Speaker 1: talk about all three of the title matches, I do
- 46:15Speaker 1: have something that I want to point out that may
- 46:20Speaker 1: give away the winners of these matches. But let's move
- 46:24Speaker 1: on to Buddy Matthews versus Kazuchika Okata. Yes, I know
- 46:31Speaker 1: it's Kazushka, but I call him Kazuchika because I just
- 46:34Speaker 1: like saying it.
- 46:40Speaker 3: What do we think about this match?
- 46:44Speaker 8: Buddy Matthew's gonna win in his home country. It's gonna
- 46:48Speaker 8: be a good match though, Like it's the Rainmaker. He's
- 46:53Speaker 8: amazing too, so it's gonna be a begger.
- 46:57Speaker 5: It's gonna be really good. But he is a talented guy.
- 47:01Speaker 5: He's a talented room worker.
- 47:03Speaker 4: Octa is one of the best in New Japan history. Yeah,
- 47:08Speaker 4: this match is going to be absolute fire. I will
- 47:13Speaker 4: actually watch this match.
- 47:16Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys a question.
- 47:20Speaker 1: We have not seen Jack Perry, nor Matthew and Nicholas
- 47:24Speaker 1: Jackson in quite a while. Do you think we may
- 47:28Speaker 1: see them as part of this match? And by on
- 47:32Speaker 1: all accounts, we can also see Brody King and Julie
- 47:36Speaker 1: Hart the other members of the Hounds of l in
- 47:39Speaker 1: this match as well. Do you think that may happen
- 47:43Speaker 1: or do you think that this is going to be
- 47:44Speaker 1: a straight up great match between Matthews, and Okada.
- 47:52Speaker 4: Gilson, I want to kind of talk about that. I
- 47:55Speaker 4: do think the Young Bucks and Jack Perry will show up,
- 47:58Speaker 4: just not for that match. I think they'll they'll run
- 48:01Speaker 4: in during uh Osprey and Omega versus.
- 48:10Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm forgetting that.
- 48:16Speaker 4: Last Callas. Guys, they're gonna interrupt that match, Omega and Os.
- 48:25Speaker 4: We're gonna win that match. The Young Bucks are gonna
- 48:27Speaker 4: come out with Perry beat them up, and we're gonna.
- 48:30Speaker 5: Build, and we're gonna start that build.
- 48:32Speaker 6: Do you give me my man's.
- 48:37Speaker 5: Real quick?
- 48:42Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Uh, they're out.
- 48:48Speaker 1: Mute. Okay, Retch try it again, because that keeps talking
- 48:55Speaker 1: over you every single time he starts.
- 48:59Speaker 7: Just debuted and an oh daddy, yeah five minutes ago maybe.
- 49:05Speaker 5: Okay, oh yeah it's Tuesday.
- 49:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 49:10Speaker 1: Well, my adolences to all WWE fans. Just just put
- 49:15Speaker 1: it that way because you got crap on your hands.
- 49:21Speaker 5: Now.
- 49:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 49:24Speaker 1: So who do you guys think win's this match? Between
- 49:29Speaker 1: Buddy Matthews and because each Cocott, I know we've already
- 49:31Speaker 1: had one person to say Matthews.
- 49:36Speaker 2: I hope Matthews wins it. I'm not sure though, Uh,
- 49:39Speaker 2: it would be a good way to get those guys
- 49:42Speaker 2: off to a running start, you know, the hounds of
- 49:46Speaker 2: Hell or getting somewhat of a push, and they're being
- 49:49Speaker 2: used a lot more. So hopefully Ocado will lose, but
- 49:53Speaker 2: who knows.
- 49:55Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, anybody else with the thoughts on this match.
- 50:01Speaker 7: I think Octa is gonna I think it's gonna be
- 50:04Speaker 7: a good match. I guess's gonna be very close. But
- 50:06Speaker 7: I think Okada's is uh, his opponent he will lose
- 50:12Speaker 7: that title to is probably Kenny Omego.
- 50:17Speaker 3: Yeah, now here's my thoughts.
- 50:20Speaker 1: And I told I said earlier that I had something
- 50:23Speaker 1: that I wanted to like reveal as something that may
- 50:26Speaker 1: be telling about this. A few days ago we saw
- 50:31Speaker 1: a first I believe it was the first promotional video
- 50:35Speaker 1: for Revolution. I could be wrong. It's for one of
- 50:37Speaker 1: the pay per views, all right.
- 50:40Speaker 3: In that.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Video was Tony Storm, was Mercedes Monet at Buddy Matthews,
- 50:53Speaker 1: No Kazuchka Okada. So that being said, I kind of
- 51:00Speaker 1: think that it's going to be Mercedes Monet winning against
- 51:03Speaker 1: Harley Cameron. I do think that it's gonna be Tony
- 51:06Speaker 1: Storm winning against MARII may and I think it's gonna
- 51:09Speaker 1: be Buddy Matthews winning against Kazuska Akada. I really do
- 51:13Speaker 1: believe that. So let's talk about Tony Storm and Mariah May,
- 51:19Speaker 1: because this match is, well, it's Tony Storm and Mariah May.
- 51:25Speaker 3: And I think that.
- 51:28Speaker 1: It wouldn't be surprise me in the slightest that this
- 51:31Speaker 1: was the main event of the show. It really wouldn't
- 51:35Speaker 1: surprise me. I think it should be. I think it
- 51:37Speaker 1: should be. With the work that these two ladies have done,
- 51:42Speaker 1: I think that they deserve to be an event spot
- 51:44Speaker 1: on the Grand Slam Show, especially Tony Storm. You know
- 51:48Speaker 1: she's at home, So what do you guys think? Who
- 51:52Speaker 1: do you think is going to come out as the
- 51:54Speaker 1: winner in this match?
- 51:56Speaker 2: Tony Storm. I mean they did the review you to
- 52:02Speaker 2: show that she's been acting this whole time, which I
- 52:05Speaker 2: think they should have waited until this match would have
- 52:07Speaker 2: made it so much better. But I just don't see
- 52:10Speaker 2: Mariah keeping the title.
- 52:13Speaker 8: And it's Tony Storm's home country too, so.
- 52:18Speaker 1: Right, But you know, by the same token, you've got
- 52:24Speaker 1: March ninth, or not very long from now, revolution. If
- 52:30Speaker 1: Mariah May uses some sort of sheackaderie to win this
- 52:35Speaker 1: match and basically embarrassed Tony Storm, in her home country.
- 52:42Speaker 1: That can still make for a good match for Revolution,
- 52:46Speaker 1: because my concern is with if Tony Storm wins this
- 52:52Speaker 1: match or Mariah May wins this match, who's next for Revolution?
- 53:03Speaker 2: Either way? Either way, when win or lose, they're gonna
- 53:06Speaker 2: have a rematch of Revolution. Isn't this going to be
- 53:09Speaker 2: like this will be their second match overall? Yeah, okay,
- 53:14Speaker 2: so you've got two down, You've got the rubber match
- 53:17Speaker 2: to go. It'll be a Revolution regardless of if Tony
- 53:19Speaker 2: wins the title or not. I still think that she's
- 53:22Speaker 2: gonna win it, and then they'll have a rematch at
- 53:24Speaker 2: Revolution and Tony will continue to hold the title.
- 53:30Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know.
- 53:34Speaker 1: I mean I mentioned that that uh that video, the
- 53:40Speaker 1: close up video, close up interview that Tony Storm did
- 53:44Speaker 1: with uh Rene Aprakat, And in that video she mentioned
- 53:50Speaker 1: some wrestlers that she wanted to go against. And the
- 53:57Speaker 1: women that she mentioned.
- 54:00Speaker 3: Were the.
- 54:05Speaker 1: Women that you probably wouldn't think that she would mention.
- 54:07Speaker 1: You would think that you would mention Dondor Rosa or
- 54:11Speaker 1: somebody like that. But she wanted to go against somebody
- 54:14Speaker 1: that she's never faced before. I believe she mentioned Jamie Hayter.
- 54:18Speaker 1: She mentioned Megan Bain and she mentioned Julia Hart, So yeah,
- 54:25Speaker 1: I mean I think that if Tony Storm wins this match,
- 54:30Speaker 1: I kind of doubt that we're going to see Oh
- 54:35Speaker 1: and she mentioned Mercedes Monet as well. I kind of
- 54:39Speaker 1: doubt that we can see a rematch at a Revolution.
- 54:43Speaker 3: Well about that.
- 54:45Speaker 2: The only thing that sucks about that is is new
- 54:47Speaker 2: build time, because after Saturday, you've only got three weeks,
- 54:52Speaker 2: not even I don't think it's three full weeks before
- 54:55Speaker 2: that pay per view, So if he immediately goes into
- 54:58Speaker 2: another program somebody, it won't have the same amount of
- 55:02Speaker 2: time to build.
- 55:04Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 55:04Speaker 1: The other thing is is that if she wins this match,
- 55:06Speaker 1: a Grand Slam, meaning Tony's Storm aw is not the
- 55:11Speaker 1: company that takes belts away at the first pay per view,
- 55:15Speaker 1: So you can't have a super Marque marquee match. You know,
- 55:20Speaker 1: if she goes against Mecan Bain, Julia Hart, Jamie Hayter, whatnot,
- 55:26Speaker 1: there is no chance that Tony Storm's gonna lose that
- 55:29Speaker 1: belt that fast.
- 55:31Speaker 2: And you can say the same thing if she gets
- 55:32Speaker 2: the rematch, I mean, if she beats Mariah on Saturday,
- 55:37Speaker 2: even if they do a rematch at Revolution Kansas are
- 55:41Speaker 2: She's not losing to her, so you kind of give away.
- 55:45Speaker 1: The whole you know. It's just one of those things.
- 55:49Speaker 2: You can't win no matter what they do. The only
- 55:51Speaker 2: way they can win is to have her is have
- 55:53Speaker 2: Mariah cheat somehow, But I think that would taint the
- 55:59Speaker 2: story they've been building. I mean, I can get it
- 56:01Speaker 2: if she doesn't. I can see it happening, I guess,
- 56:03Speaker 2: but I don't know. It's it's gonna be a tough
- 56:05Speaker 2: one of those tough matches.
- 56:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing really for me is
- 56:12Speaker 1: with this match is I think the best outcome for
- 56:16Speaker 1: this match, the best outcome as far as storyline, would
- 56:19Speaker 1: be from Mario Bay to somehow win this match, whether
- 56:22Speaker 1: it's cleaner by cheating, and for Tony Storm to win
- 56:26Speaker 1: at Revolution because, as you said something with if Tony
- 56:32Speaker 1: Storm wins this match a Grand Slam, then you have
- 56:36Speaker 1: a short turnaround time for.
- 56:41Speaker 3: Revolution.
- 56:42Speaker 7: Well, I mean, Marian May's only defended the belt at
- 56:45Speaker 7: two of the four pay per views she's been the
- 56:47Speaker 7: champion for. It's not like it's uncommon for the women's
- 56:50Speaker 7: champion to not be on the card.
- 56:52Speaker 2: This is true and I was just thinking the same
- 56:55Speaker 2: thing about a cutter because you'd mentioned it. They had
- 56:59Speaker 2: h they showed those three people in that video, But
- 57:03Speaker 2: did he have the title when they didn't show Okada?
- 57:07Speaker 2: Did was my brain's just dying Matthews? Did he have
- 57:15Speaker 2: the title in the video?
- 57:16Speaker 3: Or was he just shown because it was because he
- 57:20Speaker 3: doesn't have the title? He never had the title.
- 57:23Speaker 1: They wouldn't superpose a title on him.
- 57:26Speaker 2: No, But I'm just thinking the same thing that Red saying.
- 57:29Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't necessarily mean that he's gonna beat
- 57:32Speaker 2: O Kata to be on that pay per view.
- 57:36Speaker 1: No, I understand that, but I just thought it was
- 57:40Speaker 1: kind of telling that they did not show Alkata in
- 57:43Speaker 1: the Revolution or whatever it was. It could have been Dynasty,
- 57:46Speaker 1: I don't know, uh promo video and they showed Buddy
- 57:53Speaker 1: Matthews and they didn't show Okada, That's all I'm saying.
- 57:56Speaker 1: Whereas they showed Mercedes Bonet and they showed Tony Storm,
- 58:00Speaker 1: but they did not show Mariam. If I'm not mistaken,
- 58:03Speaker 1: they may have shown Miriam, but I'm not one sure. So, yeah,
- 58:12Speaker 1: what's the next pay per view? After Revolution? March April?
- 58:19Speaker 7: In April and then double nothing in.
- 58:20Speaker 1: Many, Okay, because I do believe that we're destined and
- 58:26Speaker 1: I've said this before, I do believe it forbidden door. Uh,
- 58:29Speaker 1: we're going to see Tony Storm and Mayu Mayu iwatani
- 58:35Speaker 1: Ah do battle. I think that's the plan. Uh as
- 58:41Speaker 1: far as revolution goes, Yes, just because you're the AW
- 58:46Speaker 1: Women's Champion does not mean that you're gonna be on
- 58:48Speaker 1: the card. But it would be insanely stupid for AW
- 58:52Speaker 1: not to include arguably their most popular wrestler, definitely the
- 59:00Speaker 1: most popular women's wrestler. Areg'aly the most popular wrestler in
- 59:05Speaker 1: AW and not put it on a paper? Put that
- 59:07Speaker 1: person on a pay per view?
- 59:09Speaker 7: So can we say the same thing about Brian May. She's,
- 59:13Speaker 7: like I said, she's missed two pay per views. It's
- 59:16Speaker 7: just done a disservice. They've really failed her as a champion.
- 59:18Speaker 3: And I think I agree.
- 59:20Speaker 1: Uh, And hey, you know, hey, if Tony Storm goes
- 59:25Speaker 1: against that revolution, if Tony Storm goes against somebody other
- 59:30Speaker 1: than Mariah May, that's fine. Maria May going against Mercedes Monette.
- 59:35Speaker 1: I'd be there for that. So why not, you know,
- 59:42Speaker 1: let's let's do it. Of course you can have you
- 59:44Speaker 1: can have a three way at Revolution, you know, it's
- 59:48Speaker 1: a w you can have a you know, a seventy
- 59:52Speaker 1: two woman's I don't match. You know, it's AW does
- 59:59Speaker 1: some weird stuff.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: So that's.
- 1:00:06Speaker 5: I I.
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: What is your I'm interested to hear what your hype
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: level is for Grand Slam? Is this?
- 1:00:17Speaker 8: Like?
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's basically a collision. It's gonna
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: be on tape delay, so you're gonna have to avoid
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: spoilers for Saturday night. It's not gonna start until approximately
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: ten thirty Eastern Time, based on the graphic that was
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: shown during collision last week. So it's gonna be a
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: weird show because it's it's it's a collision. It's gonna
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: be tape delayed, and it's gonna be at a really
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: really weird start time as well. So does that kind
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: of dampen your excitement for it? Or are you just Hey,
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: let's let's watch the show and and enjoy them matches
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: and avoid spoilers as much as you can.
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: I think it could be one of the biggest non
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: pay per view shows Aw's put on in a while.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: It has the potential.
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely got the good matches on it.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: I mean, hey, these matches are pretty dark good those
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: are these are these matches even though there's only five
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: of them, these are pay per view quality matches.
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they could have made this a pay per
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: view without it, without a doubt. I'm high for it.
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: I mean, was it?
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: Was it taped yesterday?
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: Thought?
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Somebody told me that somewhere that they were keeping it
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: last on Sunday, which would have been yesterday.
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: No, they're they're doing the show on Australian time on Saturday.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: Uh taped, Yet they did tape Dynamite tonight to give
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: people a chance to get over to Australia.
- 1:01:56Speaker 8: You know that.
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: Too many people posting about it wednesdaynamite this week? He
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: is it Tuesday night or Wednesday night? They gotta stop
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: doing that when they're talking about it. I don't know.
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: My son who just my other son who lives not
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: far from me. He has never really been an AW fan,
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: but he now got Max. So he started watching it
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: and he's like, is it Tuesday night this week or Wednesday?
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: Says Wednesday. I said, don't listen to what they said
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: on The announcers were saying, because they're they're being ridiculous.
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to go on to the TV tonight
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: and and see if they were showing it on Tuesday
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: because eight, you're right, aw needs to stop doing this.
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: They need to, you know, say what they did, because
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: I wasn't. I think it was Adam Copland that said
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, I'm going to kick your ass or
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: something like that. I don't like Tuesday night. What is
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: he talking about?
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: They they are really bad. I mean I can remember
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: back in the day when a w CW or WW
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: were taking things. They never did that, and these guys
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: really are bad at it, and they should say just
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: stop talking about when they're taking it.
- 1:03:08Speaker 6: Too.
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: They did it the week before too, so uh or
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: one of the weeks before, you know, they did it recently,
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: let's put it that way. So yeah, So anyway, that's
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: the show that is Ignition for tonight. I appreciate everybody,
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: uh coming in Steve red Sutton and net to discuss well,
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: to discuss Balachie Black, Ricky Starts. You just debuted at
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: edxt Miro and the Grand Slam, so we will see
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: you again tomorrow night. Read right after Dynamite for all
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: we talk our Dynamite review show so forty, a w
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: fan podcast team, This is Kelson, good Night, everybody not YO,
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: good Night,