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Generational Wealth with Humble Lukanga · Deeply Well with Devi Brown

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  Speaker 1: M from grandmothers who whispered in their baby girl in
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  Speaker 1: Jim see king told, scribe, scribe, told son, son, told wife,
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  Speaker 1: is And the ancestors told me that you would come
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  Speaker 1: to give you wisdom. They said you would come dropping
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  Speaker 1: Dropping the Jim, Hey Stewie Brown, and you are listening
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  Speaker 1: to the Dropping Jim's podcast. Today's episode features one of
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  Speaker 1: the most brilliant and elevated financial planners in all of
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  Speaker 1: the world, definitely one of the leading wealth managers. Business managers.
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  Speaker 1: Happens to be my business manager, so he knows where
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  Speaker 1: all the bodies are buried, and I actually haven't listed
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  Speaker 1: as my emergency contact on most days. My dear friend,
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  Speaker 1: Humble Loukanga, welcome, thank you, thank you, thank you, thanks
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  Speaker 1: for having me. So I want to give a brief
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  Speaker 1: rundown on Humble. He is many many things, um, but
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  Speaker 1: specifically he's a wealth manager for professional athletes, entertainers, executives
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  Speaker 1: and thought leaders. You have your NBA, your CFP, and
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  Speaker 1: you're the founder of Lifeline Financial Group. You're also on
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  Speaker 1: the board of trust Sees at the University of New
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  Speaker 1: Mexico and you currently have offices in Denver in l A.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the biggest clients out there. Yeah, I know, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I won't get into your very private but
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk about the clients that are in print because
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  Speaker 1: the Hollywood Reporter recently did a big profile on you
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  Speaker 1: in your life story in your career and quote in
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  Speaker 1: the article were some of your clients like ray DeAndre
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  Speaker 1: Hopkins as a client, um, Nicole Kine and myself right
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  Speaker 1: right right, right right, lucky me. Yeah. I always kid
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  Speaker 1: that I got all the queens in Hollywood. Man, Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I got all the queens. Has amazing, you know, Humble
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  Speaker 1: so I want to give everybody a little backstory and
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  Speaker 1: how we know each other and how we started working together.
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  Speaker 1: We initially met in Hawaii. That's the first time we met.
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  Speaker 1: We were at the Pro Bowl. We met. My husband
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  Speaker 1: had got voted into the Pro Bowl, so we were
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  Speaker 1: out there. You were there with another client who had
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  Speaker 1: introduced us to you Times Flying, and I just remember,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I remember thinking, what a fascinating guy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: And this is many moons ago, but I remember we
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  Speaker 1: we ended up all of us at a big dinner together,
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  Speaker 1: and you and I just kind of went off, remember,
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  Speaker 1: like we had no idea what everyone else at the
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  Speaker 1: table was talking about. And we initially bonded because we
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  Speaker 1: had both just read um outlier spend Malcolm Gladwell Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and we're like, oh my god, and we just you know,
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  Speaker 1: and ever since then, you know, we have been thick
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  Speaker 1: as thieves. When I say that you are my emergency contact,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that very literally. You know, um, anytime you know,
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  Speaker 1: you sign up for anything, it's like, okay, spouse, family member,
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  Speaker 1: emergency contact. Humble is my emergency contact on everything, specifically
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  Speaker 1: because I'm like, listen, if something goes down, this is
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  Speaker 1: the person that I know will give me how to dodge.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, you have. Um you have a really really
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  Speaker 1: really rich and huge kind of life story. And they
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  Speaker 1: did a great job of talking about it in the
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter piece. So if you guys get a chance,
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  Speaker 1: just as a compliment to this episode, definitely look up
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  Speaker 1: Humble on Google and check out that article. He also
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  Speaker 1: did with another one of his clients, a really intensive,
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  Speaker 1: great two hour discussion podcasts. It's called now What podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you you spoke extensively about some of your upbringing.
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  Speaker 1: But if you give people like, you know, just a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of background about you, man, you're taking me
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  Speaker 1: down memory lane with the with the pro bowl. You know. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy now that we've been together, you know, seven
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  Speaker 1: eight not years, I mean, uh in retrospect, I mean
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  Speaker 1: you were believing in twenty four year old financial managers.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of crazy spirit of a six year old. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: your knowledge, Yeah, you gotta do. You gotta treat those
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  Speaker 1: Ugandan years like dollar years. But yes, so a background,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Um, I grew up in in Uganda, small
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  Speaker 1: country in East Africa. I grew up in a villa
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  Speaker 1: called my Socca. I came from very very humble beginnings
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  Speaker 1: and you know, no pun intended, but in the sense
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  Speaker 1: of my parents grew up in the heights of like
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  Speaker 1: Saydia means regime, right so and Idia mean man. If
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  Speaker 1: you do some research on him, I think Time magazine
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  Speaker 1: had him was a top five dictator of all time.
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  Speaker 1: He was pummaging through the villages, you know, raping, killing,
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  Speaker 1: massacres um and those times were really hard on the country.
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  Speaker 1: He was kicking people out. It was a very very
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  Speaker 1: crazy time in Uganda. And our parents, my father, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you think about his story, right, my father had
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  Speaker 1: ten siblings and only ones alive right now, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. My mother side of the family, same
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  Speaker 1: story us as children, even my own family. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I lost my sisters, you know, when they were young,
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  Speaker 1: both of them. I've lost my brother. So I'm a
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  Speaker 1: thirty two thirty just turned thirty three. I'm the oldest
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  Speaker 1: male in my family. I was. I've been lucky to escape,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but I grew up and uh, I grew
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  Speaker 1: up in this village man fetching water. I didn't get
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  Speaker 1: my first pair of shoes, man, that I that I owned.
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  Speaker 1: There were mind so I was like eleven. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: no electricity, you know, no indoor plumbing, just you know,
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  Speaker 1: just just living in a thoroughwall country. And I was
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  Speaker 1: so lucky to get a political asylum that allowed me,
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  Speaker 1: that allowed um, my mother and my father to uh
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  Speaker 1: to bring us to America. So we landed in Denver, Colorado,
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  Speaker 1: where you know, you can start to breathe a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it's crazy because when I when you arrive,
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  Speaker 1: on one hand, you feel so lucky that you have
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  Speaker 1: you have a new chance of life. But other hand,
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  Speaker 1: you have that survivor's guilt because a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: people you're never going to see again, most likely, right,
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  Speaker 1: So um so then you have this just this guilt
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  Speaker 1: that like yeah, yeah, and you just feel like I
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  Speaker 1: have to be worthy of this blessing, Like whatever I
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  Speaker 1: do with my life has to be worthy that I
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  Speaker 1: was spared, you know what I mean, why am I?
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  Speaker 1: And you know why am I lucky than any of
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  Speaker 1: my you know, siblings or anybody else? Right? So I
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  Speaker 1: got here, man, it was really humble, and I really
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  Speaker 1: couldn't speak English of course, or you know, barely, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: And so you know you have to go backwards you know,
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  Speaker 1: you like, in first second grade learning how to put
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  Speaker 1: a bcs together, you know, learn how to put it
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  Speaker 1: down together, what a bourbon is, how to construct a sentence.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sitting on chairs and don't even fit me,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm trying to find my way, you know. But um,
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  Speaker 1: I was really lucky in the fact that I could
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  Speaker 1: learn past and uh progress very quickly, ended up being
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  Speaker 1: a really really top student, and then tragedy just kept coming.
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  Speaker 1: So by seventh grade, I'm I'm caught up to my
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  Speaker 1: peers and maybe accelerating. Everything's going great. I'm adjusted to America,
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  Speaker 1: so let's call it, you know. Three years in, but
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  Speaker 1: then heading into high school, my mother has this this
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  Speaker 1: crazy stroke that left the pair last from neck down.
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  Speaker 1: Right in that moment, you don't have a mother anymore
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  Speaker 1: in a sense, because she can't walk, she can't talk,
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  Speaker 1: and they gave her six months to live because he
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  Speaker 1: thought that, you know how, she would go in and
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  Speaker 1: out of comas, you know, because of a stroke. And
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  Speaker 1: my father, who has probably had the biggest impact of
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  Speaker 1: my life, who has showed me in the physical sense,
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  Speaker 1: what love looks like and what devotion looks like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to put my mom in like one of
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  Speaker 1: those hospice hospitals where you know, she can have like
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  Speaker 1: a sienna or somebody come like take it to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just to our dying days. And my father was like,
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  Speaker 1: that's not happening, you know, he said, listening, Now we
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  Speaker 1: have to take it to a specialist. That's one thing.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you can get an ambulance. But to take her
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  Speaker 1: to the bathroom to brush your teeth, to brush your hair, um,
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  Speaker 1: to bathe her, I'm gonna do that, right. My my
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  Speaker 1: mother cleaned people's homes during the day. My father cleaned
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  Speaker 1: restaurants and in office buildings at night. But in Uganda,
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  Speaker 1: they were professors, right, yeah, yeah, you know. And my
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  Speaker 1: father has a very crazy story in the sense that
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  Speaker 1: of how of how much heartbreak has been through. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So if we pause my story and just get I
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  Speaker 1: give you a quick like movie trailer in my father's life.
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  Speaker 1: So imagine growing up nine in Massacca, in this uh
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  Speaker 1: in this village. But you are a savant in like
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  Speaker 1: in finance and economics, so much so that all of
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  Speaker 1: these top schools are just grabbing you to go to school.
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  Speaker 1: You know, um and then so and so then you
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  Speaker 1: get this opportunity to go to the University of a
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  Speaker 1: Robe in Kenya to to to learn statistics and economics.
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  Speaker 1: You do so well that you get a scholarship to
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  Speaker 1: come to southern California, you know what I mean to
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  Speaker 1: and you get your MBA and public administration and economics.
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  Speaker 1: You go back to your country and you start to
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  Speaker 1: all your dreams are starting to come true. Right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: you're very prominent, uh in in the government. My father
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  Speaker 1: rose up at the time. Um, the coffee administration was
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  Speaker 1: the biggest cash cow for as far as export for
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  Speaker 1: for for our country. And my father was the head
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  Speaker 1: of that entire operation. Right, so he's um, he's accomplished.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's probably the third or fourth powerful man
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  Speaker 1: in the country. Um. You know, he was one of
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  Speaker 1: the few guys then who had who had a car
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  Speaker 1: and who had a show for an a driver. I
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  Speaker 1: mean he had really went from um this village into prominency.
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  Speaker 1: Right then the change in power came, right the violence,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, those those years of you know,
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  Speaker 1: in our country, like there's no voting system, like the
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  Speaker 1: powers made a power being taken. So when somebody wants
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  Speaker 1: to come be president and they but they have they
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  Speaker 1: have an army coup. They come in for everybody, right, so, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know they took everybody else out. That's how they
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  Speaker 1: that's how they deal, that's how they deal with high officials.
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  Speaker 1: And my father suffered such a such a such loss,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because my mother was was a second wife.
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  Speaker 1: But my father had be or mom before he met
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  Speaker 1: my mother. He had uh I don't talk about this
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  Speaker 1: a lot, but I'm I'm hoping he can help somebody.
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  Speaker 1: But he had um, you know, wife, two daughters, and
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  Speaker 1: they planned to kill him. Right, They're planning to stop
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  Speaker 1: his car. But when he stopped his car, he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: in there for whatever reason. I think they got to
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  Speaker 1: schedule wrong. But they executed everybody in that in that car.
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  Speaker 1: His wife, his daughter's, his driver executed him. Can you
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  Speaker 1: imagine just just just because just you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So he had to come home and find out about
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  Speaker 1: that on television like like like he didn't even know, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like it was crazy. My father never shared these stories
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  Speaker 1: with me, man, because he died young. But my aunt
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  Speaker 1: tells me all these stories now, which which now that
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  Speaker 1: I'm now that I'm a father and I'm and I'm
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  Speaker 1: a young man. It helps me understand my father more,
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  Speaker 1: but it also helps me understand why I'm this way too, right,
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  Speaker 1: because literally we come from the same cloth. So when
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  Speaker 1: that happens to his first family and he gives everything up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's like, you can have this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not worth it. On the eleven year gap where
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  Speaker 1: he goes back to the village and he's just doing
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  Speaker 1: community work and he's teaching and he's a professor, and
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  Speaker 1: he's just he's just more um into community empowerment and
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  Speaker 1: gets away from the big in that in in in
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  Speaker 1: that big life. And that's when he meets my mother,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh, Joey Lucana you know, um, and the
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  Speaker 1: name is like fitting right, and she brought joy back
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  Speaker 1: in his life. Um, and then they had us, and
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  Speaker 1: then he loses more children, right, so you get here
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  Speaker 1: and literally that's why when they're saying, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: sender somewhere, he's like, no, no, are you kidding me? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is yeah, this is the woman that my mother
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  Speaker 1: restored my father's ability to love, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like she she she restored his ability to to smile,
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  Speaker 1: to to taste again, you know, what I mean to to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to to live a rich life again, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And they had such an amazing chemistry because my mother,
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  Speaker 1: my mother was very vibrant, right, a big personality and
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  Speaker 1: and sweet. And my mother was renegading the sense back
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  Speaker 1: then most women were, you know, and even to this
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  Speaker 1: day and and and her and and and you've got
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  Speaker 1: almost African countries and more traditional this day. Just they
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  Speaker 1: stay home and to take care of the family. But
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  Speaker 1: my mother was like an entrepreneur. She had like shopping stores,
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  Speaker 1: she was she was shipping cars from you Gonta to Japan. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So so that energy is like it's like revide my
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  Speaker 1: father to say this young lady and in the seventies
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  Speaker 1: thing you Gonda, like, who's an incredible, incredible like business woman, right,
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  Speaker 1: So she restored his love and then they had, you know,
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  Speaker 1: four of four of us. And you know, but when
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  Speaker 1: when we came there to start over again, right, my
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  Speaker 1: father is like he's he's lived so many lives and
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  Speaker 1: when you get here and now you have kids and
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  Speaker 1: you have you have a country that maybe it's not
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  Speaker 1: honoring um you know, your degrees or your resume or
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  Speaker 1: your um because you know you're doing it somewhere else,
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  Speaker 1: or you got your degree back in the nineteen seventies
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  Speaker 1: or all these things, and you got you know, you
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  Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get to it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And the Cricket thing to do was just clean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because uh that's what they did. But when when my mother,
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  Speaker 1: when my father decided to take care of my mother
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  Speaker 1: had that stroke and my father decided to take care
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  Speaker 1: of her seven now he put the responsibility of like
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  Speaker 1: cleaning the restaurants on me, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I was fourteen, I was a freshman in high school,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fourteen about to be fifteen, and so literally
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  Speaker 1: I would, let's just say, I wake up, like say
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  Speaker 1: six o'clock, be at the bus stop of sixty five,
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  Speaker 1: be a school by seven fifteen, get done with school
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  Speaker 1: three um uh, go to go to practice and have
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  Speaker 1: an opter school activity, come home, do my homework, take
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  Speaker 1: a nap. By ten o'clock, I'm at Bennigan's or Golden
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  Speaker 1: Kroral cleaning toilets, cleaning a restaurant. I'm back three thirty
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  Speaker 1: two hour nap. And I did that for three years
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  Speaker 1: and three and a half years, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So but it wasn't that journey you know where I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you're averaging like three hours. It was crazy, you know
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  Speaker 1: it was, and it was, But it wasn't that journey
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  Speaker 1: where like I would I would be like vacuum. I
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  Speaker 1: would be like my father like dropped me off, and
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  Speaker 1: like we'd be I'd be like vacuum or like like cleaning,
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  Speaker 1: like um, a restaurant or whatever. And I'm thinking to myself, this, this,
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  Speaker 1: this curse of poverty is gonna stop with me, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm manifesting that, um that in my life. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just I'm just speaking out loud. This curse of poverty
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  Speaker 1: is gonna stop with me. This curse of poverty is
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  Speaker 1: gonna start with me. It's gonna stop with me, right
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  Speaker 1: Like like if you do a timeline of the of
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  Speaker 1: that name of my name I'm going to when you
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  Speaker 1: get to my my chapter, things are going to be different,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Um. But in that journey, that's where I learned,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sacrifices. Where I learned is where I got
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  Speaker 1: my work ethic. But it's also it was also very
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  Speaker 1: you know, very very very very painful, right because every
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  Speaker 1: step you take, like you know, things are happy that
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  Speaker 1: you really can't control, you know, so you know, we
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  Speaker 1: found a way. But that's a little bit about my background,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Um, and from there, you know, I graduated
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  Speaker 1: obviously high school, I went, I went to Inversity in
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  Speaker 1: Mexico and got undergraded my master's there. I left and
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  Speaker 1: got into you know, business and representative of managing finances
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  Speaker 1: for for really with these dynamic people. And I haven't
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  Speaker 1: looked back since. You know. So when I tell my story,
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  Speaker 1: when I when I share my story in retrospect, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you have to relive things. So it's hard. But um,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm open to talk about it now because I'm
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  Speaker 1: just I just want to inspire, like somebody I did
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  Speaker 1: to say, man, anything, anything is possible, like if you
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  Speaker 1: if you just don't give up, no matter you know,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what. And then my mother ended up dying
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  Speaker 1: from natal right and routes to go bury here. You know,
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  Speaker 1: my father died. So I'm sitting here burying both parents,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, like relatively the same time. It's crazy,
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  Speaker 1: so um, and this is all before yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: this is it's it's it's life is life is crazy man,
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  Speaker 1: in a sense of like you can't control what can
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  Speaker 1: happen to you. But the thing about it, though, is
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  Speaker 1: like if tragedy should come, right, may may come when
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  Speaker 1: you're young. That way, you're the rest of your life
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  Speaker 1: to have these like this wisdom and these tenants and
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  Speaker 1: this fortitude and this resiliency. Uh, and then the later
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  Speaker 1: of your life because you're gonna spend more time being
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: old than you are being young, than at least that
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: those those years will be great because you're unshakable, like
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: you literally unshakable. And not that bad things don't continue
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: to happen, but that the meaning you drive you derive
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: from them stays consistent, you know. So um yeah, let
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: it happen young and let your heart stay open. Yeah yeah,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: because because sometimes you know, if if you go through
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: your whole life you've never been through anything, and then
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: it hits you later, you don't you don't you have it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: You don't have that muscle memory, you know, so you
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: haven't built through the resilience. Yeah, yeah, you know. And
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: this is what always kind of puts me in all
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: of you. And and something I've always wanted to ask
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you given your background, Um, given the immense amount of
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: trauma that you didn't even have, you know, the luxury
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: of being able to take time to work through right
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: like you know, because you're going through trauma, but you've
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: got to learn a new language. You're going through trauma,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: but your mom you know, things are worse, so you
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: need to stay present in the moment, and you need
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: to stay helpful. You're going through trauma, but and assimilating
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: to a new country, but you gotta work all night.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: You know, all of these things, and then you lose
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: your parents. Something that has always really struck me about
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: you is the level of enthusiasm enjoy that you carry
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: yourself with, you know, and I think for people if
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: people follow you on Instagram they'll know this it's at
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: age two humble or if they meet you in person, um.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: But you know, you have this huge smile that's just
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: really charming presence about yourself and this this overall positivity.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: You know, any You've given me some of the best
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: quotables you know, I've ever heard in my life. You're
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: always just the king of of lifting other people up,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: friends and clients. Given your history, how do you still
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: manage to be kind and to believe in the goodness
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: of the world. Wow, that saw that's such a really
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: great question. When I think about being say happy, right,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I've always thought about it as because people have asked
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: me how do you how do you stay so happy?
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: And in my mind, it's like it's one of the options.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: It's one of the options, you know, Like, like it's
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: the same way you can be mad, angry, happy, It's
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: one of the options. That's what's on your menu. I'm
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: having happy. Yeah, I mean, it's one of the options, right,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: It's like, let me, let me have that, right. But also,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: if you're happy with how things are, then you can't
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: be mad at how things were, because it's some things
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: don't happen. Some things don't happen, you know what I mean.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: So so so I you can't have it both ways, man,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you can't. You can't be you know what I mean.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: You can't. You can't. You gotta let you have to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: let it go, you know. But the foundation of my life, though,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: is gratitude. And that's the lesson I share with anybody
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: that listens to me. It's impossible to be sad all
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the time and grateful all the time at the same time.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Your mind would explode before that happens, right to this,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: So when you are really unhappy or just it's because
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you're not practicing gratitude, you know what I mean, It's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: like you are, and explain explain that for people, because
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I think you know a lot of people. When you
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: think of the term gratitude, it's thankful for all I got,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, thank you God for all
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I have. What is practicing gratitude look like? You know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I touch a great question, Okay, Like when you think
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: about gratitude, and I'm talking about the physical form of it, right,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: not just like oh thank you, thank you, you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and just passing by practicing gratitude hashtag blessed hashtag right.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Practicing gratitude to me is this daily walk where like
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you are literally literally open up a book and you
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: write down what you're grateful for and why. What I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: do every single day, I dedicate that day to somebody
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I love and I try to walk in their honor.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: So I wake up today and I said, okay, man, today,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: this is from a great great grandfather that I've never
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: even met, who did enough for me to be here.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to represent what what what he would have
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: hoped for me, and I walk in that. You know
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: what I mean, gratitude is like the most important thing
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: in life because it allows you to always not live
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: in your own not not not not to live in yourself,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: but to be to be giving and to and to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: understand other people's plight and also understand like how blessed
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you are. And I tell you all the time. You know,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: we get so lost in America. Like you know, but
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: if you have a global if you have a global citizen,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: if you're global citizen, and you see the rest of
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the world, to be to be in the top one
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: percent of the world, you gotta make like forty five
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: dollars to be in the top one percent of the world. Yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the rest of the world would never own a car,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: or buy a home or go to college. Are you
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: kidding me? Like, you know, look at all the poverty
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: in in in Africa, in South America, in Asia, you
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: know the thing. But these people are literally dying in
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: in holding sales right now trying to get to America. Yeah,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. So it's so that you
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: have to have a global if you have if you
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: really have a global perspective and you look like you
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: look at the world, there's so much to be really
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: really thankful for And so then you start to get
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: to the point where the things that used to bother you,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: those feelings don't stay long. They visit, but they don't
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: spend the night, you know what I mean? And and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and that's to me not to visit, but they don't
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: spend the night. Write that down, yeah you know, but yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: it's yeah, they can visit. They can visit. Yeah, you're
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: you're you're a person, you know what I mean. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and you you will be disappointed, you be heard that
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: things will happen not going your way. But so they'll
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: let them. They'll visit, but they can't stay to night.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Well does forgiveness look like to you? First? And I'll
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: forgive yourself? What do you mean? Um? I think we
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: are so hard on ourselves, you know, Um, But I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: feel that every step of the in your journey of life,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you're making some of the biggest decisions with very little foresight.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And it's only in retrospect that you can see if
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that was the right decisions. So, as you go through life,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: you know, you can't find peace and someone else if
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you don't have peace in yourself. Right, I already say
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you can only meet someone as deeply as you've met yourself.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Sit still, deal with your own trauma, deal with your
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: own pain, deal with your own brokenness. Forgive yourself right first,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that createss abundant heart that you can then extend other
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: people to write. But but you gotta take care to
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: treat first, you know, or last the branches won't flourish. Right,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a big believer that the way to begin
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: your journey the wholeness for yourself and the way to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: find yourself for healing yourself is through self inquiry. Right,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: It's through like really excavating your thoughts, your past experiences,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: asking yourself lots and lots of questions, and even when
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: you think you have an answer, ask more questions, digging.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: So what does that look like for you, That that
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: experience of being able to get to a place where
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you forgive yourself, that that experience of meeting yourself. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: should say, yeah, you know, and it's and it's and
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: it's just and it's it's a journey, you know what
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I mean. It's it's it's it's that never has a destination,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: but you but you are committed it to You are
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: just committed to it because you're still alive something justest
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: have work to do. But for me, it's um, it
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: starts with like having a value system, right, having pillars,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: having a value system almost like a board members that
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I want to answer to everything, you know what I mean,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And the value system allows me to allows me to
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: make sure that like if I'm honoring those five value
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of values. You gotta pick
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: your own five that that you can I think like
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: like four or five values that you are not going
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: to compromise for anyone for anything. And you you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and you and you have those pillars, right, so like
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: minus freedom you know, uh, family, generosity, community, right and faith.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: And so it's like when I'm oneing through decisions, I'm
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: making how they affected those five you know, um, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: if I don't feel good about it, I'm not doing it.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I love you so that I actually didn't know that
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you did that, but I did the same thing a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: few years ago. I kind of created a personal coat
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of arms, if you will. You know those you know
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: those shields you know they have and they would have
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: four different sections and we like aligning with the bird's
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: head or you know, but I kind of I kind
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: of made one of those for myself. And you know
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: something that especially when I first started this journey of course,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you know healing. Yeah, when when you first start to
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: heal and transform and dive deeper into who you are,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you know, I thought similarly to you, I thought, how
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: how can I make this like a creed for my life?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: You know? So I kind of I kind of came
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: up with a mission statement for myself, you know, is
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: my core belief system exists around the concepts of faith, loyalty, intimacy,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and adventure. I approached these with the knowing peace and
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and proactive and their fulfillment. I flow effortlessly, using love
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: as a leading energy within which I operate daily. So
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I kind of wrote that ASP as my mission statement,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and under that I broke down. You know what my
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: pillars are, which our faith, you know, um, spirituality and
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the seeking of the sacred our paramount in my life.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I believe in resilience and transcendent thought. I'm going to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: kind of speak through these, um because y'all don't need
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: to know all this. But the next filler was loyalty.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Honesty is the gift I give myself and others so
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that I may build an unshakable trust. I support my
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: family above all else, and I'm fully committed to that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: We practice forgiveness. We treat one another with empathy and compassion.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Another pillar is intimacy. By communicating our thoughts and feelings,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: we foster a deep connection. I believe in facilitating conversations
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and experiences so that I may share closeness and a
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: bond that strengthens me with other people. And the last
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: one is at vent sure, I believe in fun. I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: take this. I operate under the belief that the expiration
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: of the world and the exploration of myself brings much
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: joy into me. I learned from and respect other cultures,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and I regularly find moments in which to laugh and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: enjoy company the people I love. Wow, So I kind
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of you know, because that's powerful and and and just
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: know when, just know when you and being in your life,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: like every second of every day, I've seen you put
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: this to work. You. Thank you. I've seen you. I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: don't always do it perfectly, but I'm telling you, I've
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: seen you put in the work. You know, and the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and the and the queen that you're transforming into and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the and uh your spirituality. You're you're you're you're like
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: just the core of you and what that means to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the people around you, you know, the the the pain
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: we've had to work through everything, Like you've just transformed
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: into this incredible soul. So thank you. That's the first
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: time you share with me those creed But it hit
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: me because I can say I can sit here and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: look at you and tell you that's exactly how you're
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: lead in your life. Oh, thank you so much. So
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: that's that's powerful. That means a lot. It's funny because
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that's actually the first time I've looked at it in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a couple of years. You know, when I first I think,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I think I made that maybe like six years ago,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: six years ago, and you know, at first, like I
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: had printed it out and I would just have it
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of existing. I like to personally post
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of prayers of protection and just like ideology
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: like that right by my front door, and I take
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a moment to take a breath and I read through
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: it before I kind of go into the world, right,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like my armor. But yeah, that's my
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: first I'm actually reading that um and definitely reading that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: loud to anybody and here I am telling it to
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: all y'all, but that's really powerful. But you know what said,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that's where it starts. All like you write it down
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: to really define your growth goals, you know, and you
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: have just wanted you have to you have to want
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to be a good person. Yeah, you have to want
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: to do what's right because it's right, you know what
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you just you just have to fight
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: and and and uh and and just do it. You know.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. That's amazing. Thank you. Thanks
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: for sharing that. You know, I think too, because it's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: like personal growth is so mystified sometimes and now in
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: this day and age, everything has a yin any yang.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: So there's all the attributes of where we're at in
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: life right now, the chance to dive into that luxury
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: of figuring out who you are, finding your purpose and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: have air quotes as I'm talking. But then there's also
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the flip side of that. It becomes overexposed, It becomes
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: a lucrative way for people to manipulate the money, It
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: becomes surface in some ways. And so you know, when
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you know that you want to grow or change something
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: in your life, you have to take it past that
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: surface level of posting the positive quote or the Bible
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: verse on Instagram, right, like you have to say to yourself, Okay,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not this yet, but how can I embody? How
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: do I practice this? Just like you would with anything else.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: And you know, at the time that I kind of
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: made that, I was working a lot like I was
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: when it comes to work. I'm so strategized, I'm so
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: very true committed, and you know, into the hustle, I
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: like the being tired and stressed out, and you know,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I'm making lists and vision boards and plans and data
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: at it up. And you know, I decided I wanted
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: to apply all of that same logic to my personal development.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I said, let me sit down and really take some
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: notes about myself. What are my needs? What am I lacking?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: What am I great at? What can I enhance? And
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: so that's why I kind of took time to say,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: what is the mission statement of my life? And what
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: are the pillars that hold that up to be true?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: What are the active things that you can do every
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: day that make that mission true and make it grow?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, and uh, and You've done it. I've
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: seen it. You've done it. I've seen it. I'm proud
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: of you, and I think and you know, we put
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: so much time into so many other things, but we
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: never take a step back and take care of the vessel.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because your vessels where everything's
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: being poured out of. Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: So you gotta you gotta take care of the vessel.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And yeah, that's actually something I want to talk to
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you about. Yeah, yeah, talk about taking care of the vessel.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I worry about you a lot. I know, I can
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: be anywhere I can. I'm like in London, I could
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: be anywhere around the world, and I get a text
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: from Debt, Hey, checking in on you. How you doing?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Are you eating? Did you take your vitamins? You know
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, Hey, did you meditate today? You know?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Are you good? You're You're the only thing about this.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: You're the only client ever to actually send me a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: SPA treatment. When you did that, he was like, remember
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you called me. He was like, listen, you're gonna don't
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: care what you're doing the debt. You're gonna cancel your afternoon.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I've already booked it, remember that about Yeah, I've already
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: booked it already set up and if you don't go
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: home and lose my money. But that was like, it
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that was so sweet because at the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: time you were out. We both live in Los Angeles now,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: but at the time I think you were living in Yeah.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I was like Google, I looked up like amazing massage
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: or you know, like I think it was like I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: had some energy work too, and yeah, and I was
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: like take the day off. You're having a point me
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: at this time. There's two times in my career that
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I couldn't find the words right and like that I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: remember distinctively. Um one was one of my clients, uh
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Scheck mcmanusk um before we were just starting to work together.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: He called me and he said hello in Yugana in Luganda,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: you know, he called like he like you know what
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it was just such a sweet thing
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: for him. Hello, I used to be that thoughtful. It
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: feels so good to hear you. Yeah, I was like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: but I used to. And then that day when when
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you uh and and that spot, it's like, uh, those
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: those days, those moments stick out for me. It's just like,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you know, somebody thinking about you. But yeah, so you're
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: worried about me. Huh, I legitimately sorry, I'm gonna guys,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take some SIPs of water. Sometimes they were
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: talking because I'd be thirsty. Um. Yeah, I really I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: really worry about you sometimes because you have a really
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: big destiny, and I think anybody that meets you feels
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the weight of who you are and who you're meant
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, in that first handshake, you know, like
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: kind of you have this deliberateness about you and this
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: incredible professionalism, this incredible drive, but really bigger than that,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: this this profoundly deep empathy about you. So you are
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the kind of person who you're very busy, like here
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: than probably the busiest person any of us know, you know,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: like you have so many a list clients that are
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: doing world changing things right, and you're one of these
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: people that when you work with people, you're really the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: one stop shop. Like you'r who I go to about finances,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: about legal stuff, about life stuff, about ideas, about connections.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: You know, like you're just one of those people that's
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: really a tool that connector you know. And so but
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you still find so much time for your clients. And
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I remember I was at a rough point in my
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: life many months ago, and no matter what day it was,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: no matter what time it was, you could be in
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: a board meeting. You know, if you would, you would
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: stop what you were doing and you would sit on
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the phone with me for however long I need it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm a very long winded person, so these weren't
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: you know. It wasn't like, okay, let me step out
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: real quick. Good, No, it was like, you know, I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: would tie you to the phone for an hour or more.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: And then when I started meeting more of your clients
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and they would share that you would do the same
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: things for them. And then I'm trying to do the math,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, there's only twenty four hours of
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a day, you know. And I remember I asked you
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: about it once and I'm like, how how do you
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: find the time to be so much to so many people?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: You know you had kind of shared that, well, you know,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the work still has to get done. So if I
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: had to take an hour or four hours to help
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: someone in crisis today, I still do my work. So
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: that takes away from my time with myself, That takes
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: away from me at home, and I you know, the
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: work is still going to get done, and that just
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: really stuck with me. One the level of self sacrifice
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: that you give to other people. And then it also
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: really hurt my heart because I thought about you, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I thought about how hard you work and how much
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you do for people on just a mental soul you
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: know level, and I'm like, wait, but who's going to
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: refill him? So how do you do that? How are
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you juggling this? Nor have you had to set more
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: boundaries in your life and not take on things from
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: other people? You know? How do you fill your cup? Oh?
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: That's amazing, you know it's uh. When when I hear
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: you describe it, I'll go, my goodness, I'm maybe I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: am taking on a lot, but honestly I love this.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: It's like, um, the honor of my life is to
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: serve these families that are like to protect them and
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: fight for their for their dreams and help you guys
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: build your wealth and you know, like meeting your newborn
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: son quest and know when he's good forever. You know
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, Like that's like Dad, I mean,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I love what I do so much because of the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: people I'm doing it with, but also like the empire
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: we're having in this world. And um and I always
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: say cliches, the cliches because they because because they're true,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you know. But like you know, I've never doesn't even
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the hardest day doesn't feel like work, if that makes sense,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: because I'm just trying. I know that once I cracked
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: this code for a client, once I figured this out,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna take off and and and change
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: their family's lives. So there's two things. I really love
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: what I do, right, but too when I started this business,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I thought, in this business, I was like, I just
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: want to protect these people. I don't want to be
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: taking advantage of I want to teach finance. I want
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to make sure they build wealth. I was on a
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: mission right and and and and I would and I'm
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: dedicated to that mission. But what came back to me
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: was seeing, you know, clients become family. Yeah, like I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: don't know, I told you my story, like my whole
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: family has wiped out, so like my client's man's family,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so that devotion comes
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: from a sense of you know, I look at you
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: like my sister, like this is this is my family,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: you know. So that's been the greatest blessings to have
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: a new family that like idi amine can't take from me.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: So I like that. I Um, it's it's it's you give.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: But the people you've given to, I'm filling you back up,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um and uh. And I've
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: been really and I said light attracts like, but I've
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: been really lucky to just work with clients that are
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: so not only the so dynamic, but there's such good people.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: So we just fill each other, fill each other, you
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. We just we just filled each other. So,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: but this is actually my dream, you know what I'm saying,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Like I'm actually living my dream. And and I guess
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: so paranoid sometimes because I think it's I think I'm
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: gonna wake up and stop a bucket on my head
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and uganda, you know what I'm saying, fetching water and
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: so I get to my office every day. Of course
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: it was a dream. I was doing a podcast, you
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. In Los Angeles would baby like
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: drinking whatever whatever this stuff is Like I used to
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: fetch water. Yeah, I used to fetch water. So it's
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: like I don't I don't believe. I don't. I really
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: don't believe, Like I live and I don't believe anything.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: It's like actually real, I feel like I'm even I'm
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: in this dream and I'm just trying to like sick
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: my teeth into it as much as I can before
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: before I wake up. You know, Oh humble, you got
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: all the gems, I swear. So you recently celebrated your birthday? Yeah, yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: yeah with you. Yeah we did it up. We celebrated
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: in Mexico, and yeah, we did some fun stuff. It
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: was great. It was great. Actually many things that cannot
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: be talked about on this podcast. But what is something
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: that you're walking into this new year of life with,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: you know, at this age, having you know, the kind
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: of wisdom that is just so painstakingly earned. Man, that's
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: a great word. Yeah, this next year? What does that
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: feel like? What does that look like? Because you're still
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: so young? Yeah, yeah, you know, you're so young and
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you're at the top of your craft and you've lived
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: five lifetimes, right, and I'm feel good, you know, I'm
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: feeling great. So I I there's a lot of when
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I look at what I want to do, and I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: look at like a triangle, right, an equilateral triangle. One
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: side of that triangle is my relentless pursuit of financial
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: and generational freedom for the families I'm responsible for, right
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: locked in the other part of that triangle is philanthropy,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: right um, finding ways to continue to have an impact
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: on the children of a country. But and a new
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: side of the triangle that I'm getting into, UM storytelling,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: you know, UM and uh you know, producing films and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and and television and uh and even docuseries that I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: want to do. I really want to do two things
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: with this with this part of this journey. One, I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: want to tell stories of women of color, especially Black women,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: who are the heroes of their own story. Like nobody
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: saved them, you know, no husband came, no white guy
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: on a horse. Like they changed the curse of their
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: family through pure pain, and they took their changed everything.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I want to find those stories and tell stories because
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to have an honest conversation about the sacrifices
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that black women, you know, indoor on the behalf of
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: broken men. And and I want to tell those stories
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: and and show them as the as the heroes, as
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a superhero that they are. Right. I know, all the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: women listening right now, just take a big breath. You
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: know somebody and too and too, I want to I
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: want to. I want to tell stories that make vulnerability
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: cool and fight this toxic masculinity that's affecting us, especially
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: as as black as black men. You know, I want
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to help black men feel. I want to help black
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: men heal. And I want to tell stories that that
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: are very very impactful, that can that can do those
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: two things. You know. Um, I want to sit there
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: for just one second because I want to dive into that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: That's something another thing that I just love about you,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and I love seeing that you put into the world.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: You're a big hugger, a big hugger. You can give
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: some of the hugs in life, right, Like there's like
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: only like you. There's a couple of people that just
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: give those hugs that you remember, you know. And that's
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: something that I see you do, especially a lot with
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: your male clients. You know, like like the physicality of touch,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: like not just like a quick little bumper dab. It's like, now,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: give me a tight hug, get this hog in my seat.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: When you are managing someone's money, you know everything about them,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: right It's a it's a very intimate, deep trusting how
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: much toilet paper they orders. I know, I know, I
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: know everything. You know what I'm saying, um, and I'm
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a volt, so that some stuff I'll be like, I
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: don't want humble to know to what I just thought.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Let me go take out some cash system, right, that
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: cash of food. But when you when when you met
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: when you are managing finances for some of the some
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: of the biggest names in sports, right, these alpha males
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that are warriors and their gladiators, right, and they've taken
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: they've they've changed their family's name through their physicality. Man,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: you start to really see the pain they come from,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the families, they come from, the neighborhoods, they come from,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: the trauma they're fighting, you know. And when you humanize
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: them and you and you, you take away the helmet,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: you take away the athletic prowess, and you look at
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the core of this human spirit. More than managing their wealth,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I need to manage their wellness, you know what I mean.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I will fly in and have the most intimate conversation.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I will fly in just
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: to give them a hug. I'm gonna create a space
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: where they can tell me anything and I force them
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: to and going to help them heal. Right, and and
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: so to me, I can't give the whole world a hug, right,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: or I can't. I can't give every um black man
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: a hug because because I understand their pain. So I'm like,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: how do you tell stories that can be entertaining, that
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: can be impactful, that can be profound. But we can,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: but we can start to heal, just start to cry,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: start to feel, you know, because if we don't do that,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: then we're going to destroy everything we touch, our families, marriages,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: um our careers, you know, because we're just walking around
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: with this pain nobody talks about with his open wounds,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: nobody's dealing with, you know, and and trying to find
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: um peace and and and and chasing women are trying
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to find peace in gambling, trying to find peace and achievement.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I mean some people, so folks, they're just hiding from
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: the trauma. Right. And but what we wasn't We would
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: never talked to feel, never talked to feel. Like like
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I thought about it, I said, my father was an
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: amazing man, my hero, but I can probably count him
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: on one hand. I mean, like when you know what
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, like if he ever hugged me. I remember,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I remember touch means so to me. So I remember
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: one of my clients said the real est thing to
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: me one day. He was like, man, humble, you're the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: only man in my life that's never let me down.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you know, another client
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: told me, may you the only has told me you
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: loved me? M you know what I mean? And so
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: like I make these guys, I don't care who you are,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, I give these
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: guys the biggest hugs and I tell him I lovel
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And uh, and and I
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: forced them to have a safe place, you know. Um,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Like when you when you watch one of the movies
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: that really had a big impact in with Fences, right,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: you're seeing Denzelo's character. He did such an amazing job,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: but you can see his trauma will let him connect
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: to his son, you know what I mean. It was
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: like like he's right there in front of him, but
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: he just can't feel, you know what I mean. And
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: that and and he's destroying his family from that maximina
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and that toxicity. Right, but I see it every day
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: as well. So something I would say all all the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: time is you can't have real, real generation to change
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: until you see coldness for yourself, you know what I mean?
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: You know, of course, you know, like being able to
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: have access you know, to education and build your finances,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: get great employment, like all of those things are absolutely valuable,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: but real, real soul level generational change, right like breaking
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: of the quote unquote generational curses, you know, healing the
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: traumas and not passing them on. That can only happen
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: when you devote yourself to seeking wholeness or to holding
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: yourself to heal a thousand percent a thousand percent. And
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: we've never we've never had the tools or the safe
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: haven to feel you know what I mean? Men? You know?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: So that's third part of that trial was I'm looking
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: forward to this year. Um, what's the name of your
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: production company? That's your too full, too ful Productions? Which
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: is too is like slang and in Luganda, my native tongue,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: when somebody's being really honest, you you know, they say
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: something really honestly like to put too foul, like like
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: real he's talking about gospel truth, you know, you keeping
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: it out to do you know? Yeah, So I just
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: want to tell line of stories and I'm so luck
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: to be around so many, to be around so many
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: like incredible storytellers, um creators, And I come up with
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: these amazing ideas that I think are amazing, and then
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I just give them to people that I that I
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: trusted and they helped me. But you know, I take
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: a step back, what, like, what is my real calling
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: in my life? Right? The real calling? Like you know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: this finance whatever you want to call whatever you want
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to call me this this this fine this finance here
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: or this financial manager. Um. What I do is what documented,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: but why I do it, um is what inspires me.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: And I do it to to just help families heal
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: and transform, you know, and and and and yeah, sure
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: finances is a is a core part of that, but
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: it's more than just managing wealth. It's it's it's really
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: managing wellness and making and just helping people transform. And
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I want to do that on a greater scale, you know.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: And I think that's why I'm starting to step out
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit and tell my story. I'm so glad
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, I mean for years you've been telling
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: me too, and people have been telling me too. But
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I just never wanted to be a target you know
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: and U. But but at the end of the day,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: it's not about me. I just want to I want
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: to use my pain and my journey and I want
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: to I want to I want to uplift and and
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: uh and inspire people around the world to turn tragedy
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: into triumph. Yeah you know what I mean. And I
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: think I can. I can speaker, I can speak on
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: that confidently, right, So, um, yes, that's what That's what
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to. But while I have such
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: a mastermind, uh, such a multi HYPHENI in front of me,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I really want to also give people some like game
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: right for their careers and for their finances. You have
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: your hands and a lot of things, as you've just shared.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know again, you are running some of
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: the finances for the biggest hitters in Hollywood right now,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the biggest hitters in sports, executives, lots and lots of creatives.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: You have, your your network is massive. The people that
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: you know and have great relationships with in entertainment and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: finance and government and yeah, you got everybody right. Yeah,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I'm lucky. So how how do you get to that place? Like?
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: What what is one of the things that really helped
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you to build and maintain relationships in your field of work.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a great question. Um, I want let
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: me take a step back, and no man is an island, right, So,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: like I think that my biggest quality is I know
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: how to develop talent. So my my team is impeccable,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: you know, like my guys, you know, Brandon, Wiobo, Matt,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: like my guys incredible, you know how big guys. Your
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: staff Now, we got we about we had seventeen right
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: now and then to twenty four by June because we
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: were kind of a hiring frenzy. But but you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I've been with you know, my staff, So first you
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: got us wrong. First you you I've um, my team
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: is just impeccable, right and uh and we built a
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: company culture. There's no bosses, there's no hierarchy, there's nothing.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: There's not in that nature. Man, it's just just like
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: undervoted love for the mission, the mission, the mission, the missions.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: No job is too No job is too small, job
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: is too big? Right. Um? So but to maintain relationships,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: you know, always build relationships. For me, it's like I've
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: always wanted to be around like minded people, you know
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: what I mean? And so like I like, I love
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: sitting down this morning and saying, hey, what are you
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: working on right now? That's that's really inspiring you. Or
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: tell me, tell me a book that you just read
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: man that has changed your perspective on something. And I
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: want to be around light, you know what I mean?
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: And uh, because then light attracts light, you know. But
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: how I build what what I'm becoming is through a
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: pure devotion to humanity. I forget the money, forget the
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I mean the at tension. That stuff is not real,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Like it's it's not real because it's crazy. When the
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Hollywoo reported it a story on me, right, um, now
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: everybody's it's hidening me. I'm the same guy, you know
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it's just like people think that
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: once you've got people validate you, that now you validated.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: But no, like I don't, I don't. I'm I'm grateful,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: but I'm so committed to like the devotion of the
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: human spirit and like and like making sure that the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: people I'm responsible for I taken care of, right, And
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: so I tell people the time, like you have to
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: figure out what that means for you, like, because if
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you're chasing money, Well, you're not really chasing that purpose.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Even if you do attain the money, you're gonna feel
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: so empty. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's like
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: it's like it's like, when it's all said and done
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and you're ninety years old, what impact did you have
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: on others? Like, how did you how did you serve?
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Answer to me, My leadership style is servitude. I just
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: love to serve, serve, serve, serve, serve, and that creates
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: like this flow of of of of goodness that attracts people,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: you know, and they tell people and other people tell
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: people and then you just you just keep serving, you know.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: So that's that's my that's my mindset. And I think
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: your your network grows as you help more people. Yeah,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of people come into
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: it saying like, Okay, what can you do for me?
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: But I've never thought about it that way, even even
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: when I was in a kid, right, just like naturally,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: even when I was starting out, I was always like, Okay,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna help this person get here. I'm gonna help
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: this person get here. I'm gonna help this person get here.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: And I tell people all the time, you can accomplish anything.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: You can accomplish all that you want out of your
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: life if you help as many people as you can
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: get all that they want out of life. You know
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Because the high tide lips all boats. Yeah,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so service service service,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's how And basically, so the cheat
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: code really is be authentic and be a good person. Help,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: don't don't don't don't say what, don't say what can
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: somebody do for me? What can I do for you?
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Or yeah, you want to do this, Okay, I'm going
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: to connect you with this person. And you want to
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: do this, I'm gonna connect you with this person. Even
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: when I was younger and and uh and I wanted
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: to get like some advice of eighteen years old, trying
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: to figure things out, and I would call like mentors.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I would say, hey, listen, I want to come more
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: your grass for thirty minutes of your time. Wow, you
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that again, So, like I always
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: knew that if I it always has to be like
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: it can't be a one way you know what I mean.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: You can't be like I gotta feed you. I think
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest things that young people make, right,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: because a big buzzword is mentor, like find a mentor,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: or you know, get an internship or you know. But
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: it's this sense that young people have, and I think
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: it's really because they just when you're when you're at
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: a certain age, life has always revolved around you and
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: your home and at your school, so that narrative continues
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: until you get a little bit more life experience. But
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: you think that everybody needs to just give to you
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: because you're asking. I give knowledge, give time, give opportunity,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: all simply because you're asking for it. And in no
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: way do you see the need to reciprocate their relationship
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: or give of whatever it is that you have. You
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: know that that I think that for me, that's my
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: biggest frustration when I've had interns in the past and
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: what I hear, you know, from other people about about
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: young minds that they've worked with, because it is a relationship.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, you like that you have
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: my child, you know what. I think. I think a
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people want the mentor to take on the
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: role of a pseudo parent, of course, you know, like
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I want to be able to have whatever kind of
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: bad or brady behavior I want, but still see the
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: best in me. Still give me chances and give me opportunities.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: And you know it's I think the people that figure
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: that out younger do the best. That That's one of
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the series I knew. I knew, like even in my
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: very first internship and you know, getting started. I used
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: to intern at a label and interned for Universal, I
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: interned for Interscope, I interned at a radio station. But
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I was always like, what can I do for you
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: outside of the jest, you know, the very typical I'll
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: go get your coffee. People can get their own damn coffee.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: What can I do for you? What do you need?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: What are your pressure? How can how can I enhance
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: whatever you're working on without you telling me? How can
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I be intuitive to what your needs are and provide something?
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: You know, to be able to have the honor of
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: getting your time and getting your attention and your opportunity.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: The more people you can help, the bigger your inmpluments
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: are going to be and everything else they're going to
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: come to that. But one thing that I was I
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: tell young people they're listening, is just start where you
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: are and be excellent, Like be like if you if
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: if right now you are stock in the shelves at
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: office depot, be that be the greatest like at that
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: role than anybody in the company. You know, because when
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: you start to practice like habits of excellence, you get
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: just like muscle memory and then one day what you
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: really want to do or whatever's gonna happen, and guess what, man,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: you have the you have those habits, you know. And
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I tell people in the time, like if you know,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: how are you gonna take over the role? And you
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: can't you don't make your bed in the morning, like
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: you's know what I'm saying. I don't like like it.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: It's a discipline of just you know. And I'm like,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: just more than knowing what you want to do with
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: your life, is just like getting really good at getting
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: really good, you know what I'm saying. And it's like
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: and and just dominating where you are because doors start
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: to open, you know, the mean doors start to open
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: and you'd be surprised it's gonna come. Someone's gonna notice that.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you need to come work for me.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: You need to do this because you are just so
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: committed to where you are mediocre is so prevalent. So
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: when you are seeking excellence, man, you stand out, comediate,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: you stand out, you know, and uh, but you're not
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: gonna turn it on. Like it's it's like if you
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: don't if you don't have excellence, if you don't have
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: discipline and habits that you practice, even if you're an
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: opportunity comes, you're not going to be able to take
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: advantagement because you do not have the muscle memory. Yeah,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's almost like going to
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: work out, right, you go to work out and like
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: maybe you trying to put up two hundred pounds and
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: it's heavy and you can't do it, but you keep
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: going and keep going and keep going. Eventually you you
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: do it. You know the way it didn't change, you
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: got stronger. But but I see so many people wasting
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: their lives just like like the opportunity is here, but
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: your character isn't ready. It's not ready, like you know,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: and it's like and wherever you are, like right now,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: you're you're in the mail room, right, kill it, kill it,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: kill it, because if you can't kill the marl room,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna kill this next level. And you know,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I think is a is hard for people now. So
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you and I are both at the very top end
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: of millennials at that point. Yeah, technically we're considered millennials, right,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: but we are at the very very tippity top of it.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: So we remember a life prior to cell phones. Really
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: like the girl, you just write me that letter and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: folded up fancy, you know, let me let me unfolded,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: make it a little shape. Damn, I haven't thought about that.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: We had to work, but yeah, you know, so we
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: remember life prior to social media. I was in college
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: when Facebook launched, when you still needed it to You
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: still needed to actually be a college student to sign
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: up for Facebook. It was called the Facebook dot com. Yeah,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: you know, the Black Planets and the my Space anyway,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: So we remember life life before those things. Um, which
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: is truly a blessing now I'm realizing. But I think
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: what's really tough for young people now that are trying
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: to develop their character and go out and get it
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: is all of the social proof. Like when we were
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: when we were starting, there was at most I was
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: putting pictures up once in a while on my MySpace
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: page that I scanned into my computer. You know what
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like, and there wasn't a section
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: for like, you know, a bio in the sense that Hi,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I'm a you know whatever, I'm the CEO of you
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: double down production something that does not exist yet or
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: you know. So I think for now for a lot
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: of people, because everything they think, everything about their identity
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: is wrapped around what their social proof is, what they
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: can be perceived as a proof. Nobody wants to be
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: seen when they're starting. Everybody wants to be seen seen
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: from a standpoint yeah of people. You know, you want
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: people to compare yourself themselves to you. You want people
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to have a little what are they doing? You know?
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't because their minds work that way. Doesn't
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: give them the opportunity to be grateful for where they're
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: at in the starting point and to just slowly cultivate
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: and grind and build where you want to be. They
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: have to wake up and be it or they're worthless,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: you know. And so it takes out the understanding of
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: how work in the world works. It's such a big way. Yeah,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: it's so true. And our say comparison as a thief
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: of joy, you know what I mean, because your journey
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: is your journey. It's yours. It's your journey. Man, like
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: you you we all got built different cards and so
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: may just play your hand as well as you can
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: and be proud of that. But they you know, it's
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: so true what you're saying, because when I take a
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: step back and look at the where we are with
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: social media, it is the first time, at least in
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: my life that people think people are disposable. Yeah, like people,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: what you think people are disposable because you can just
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: follow on follow or swipe rights right, like you said, people,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: It's just it's crazy, you know, so that the value
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: of humanity isn't a very crazy fun. It's a very
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: it's a crazy function. Right now where we are we
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: really crazy sensitized. I don't know if that's even the
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: right word to use for this, but like, for instance,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: right like someone could have a million followers, but now
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: if there's someone else that has four million followers, then
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: they're not yet and you're and you're thinking to yourself, well, yeah,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: they have a million followers, but whatever, that's one million people.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Like these numbers are getting so big that you can't
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: even wrap your mind around it for it to seem
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: like a real thing, you know, like I think one
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: of the Kardashians has one hundred million followers, one hundred
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: million people. I can't even envision that. That's that's like
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: a whole country, right, Yeah, it's bizarre, it's a very
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: but you also have to feel you also have to
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: you also take a step back and you kind of
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: seeing that you have to ask yourself what impact that
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: you're making with your Yeah? Yeah, how much do you
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: like really mean to you? You know, why are you
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: tied to that as your as your measure of how
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: you feel about yourself? And it's not all our fault.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I mean in reality, like this is this is a
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: new drug, been programmed some of the ways that we feel.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: It's not even in our own wheelhouse to feel that
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: way like we have been trained to feel. And then
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: you have to try to figure out that you feel
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: this way and try to reel it back in. Um,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: that's interesting. It's also it's also but it's also so
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: great because it's like now you have access to some
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: of them, you know what I mean, Like, can you
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: imagine that we were coming up you could I couldn't
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: talk to like a Malcolm Gladwell, I just hit him
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: up and we talk on or I couldn't you can
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: talk like you you didn't know what your favorite person like,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You didn't like the people
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: You're world The world seem so far and like, but
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: now we're still connected, and now we're seeing things happen
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: in real time. We're seeing pros, you know, police brutality,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: We're seeing like things happen in real time. You know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: we're having the same conversations. So there's so much there's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: so much great things happening right now. But from the
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: young people, man, it's like you want to just make
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: sure that like dream your dreams, but don't pretend, like,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: don't pretend like if that's what you want to do it,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: don't don't have two lives right where on or on
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: your socials, you know what I mean. Don't calm people, Yeah,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: don't calm your don't calm yourself. You know, like you
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: have your dreams, but don't pretend, like, put that grind
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: and put that work in and really be and really
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: get to where you want to go instead of instead
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: of instead of having one life that you that you
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: present and then the real life that you that you
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: live because the only person you're hurting is yourself. Right,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: you got a chance to figure out who you are,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: to love, who you are for for where you are.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: What is what's one of the biggest difficulties that you
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: experience working with clients who have a lot of wealth.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Everybody is really different, but I think the biggest, the biggest,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: the hardest challenge is slowing everything down and taking this
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: winning this race out of turtle space and keeping the
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: wolves away because is you know, family members, right, uh, friends,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: you know, old pastors, you know, the whole, the whole.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Because what happens, especially in sports, to your salaries public
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: that's crazy to me, you know what I mean? Like
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: that the second client signs a big deal is everywhere
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: or espen Now now your pastors calling, You're saying, we
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: gotta fix the roof and it's gonna be two and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: fifty dollars, you know what I mean. Every every dinner
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: you have, they're looking at you like, you know, every
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: family member doesn't want to work, and nobody wants to work.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: It's just like it's so much, it's so much pressure,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: and they want to have the same level of lifestyle
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: as you. You know, what I mean they want yeah,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: so and it's like and and also you know when
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: you come into money, so so suddenly you're still you're
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: still young, you know, but you have so much, right, So,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: how do you how do you get a young person
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: you buy in right away, especially with their careers are
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: going to be short, right? Um, So you know the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: challenges are there, but the most the hardest thing though
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: is behavior, behavior, behavior behavior. You have to influence behavior,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: you have to change behavior because how you spend money
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: is directly linked to your value system, directly linked. You know.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: That's how to solve case is they just chase the money,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: you know, that's what this person is into money? You know,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: So how do you get someone not to buy the
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: chain and not to give money to their family members
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: and their friends, and not to pay everybody's rent? And
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: there's a difference, there's a difference between hoping and enabling, right,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: And there's a difference also, um, And also it's like,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: what tell me what's important to you and then let's
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: make sure that every decision we make is directly linked
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: to those values. If you're telling me the generational wealth,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: making sure that your your all these people are gonna
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: be good. Well, uh, those decisions directly, those decisions helping
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: that you know, so it's happened, really honest conversations. Money
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: is just a tool for freedom, um. And it's and
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: if you, if you're able to use it right, you
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: can free yourself and your family from a life of limitations,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: especially for us people of color, where this country will
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: never be for us, right, it's just not the way
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: it's set up. Right. So you want your children's children
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: to never be never have a ceiling. You want them
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: to be free from all fear, all limitation. That's what
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: that's what's a powerful about this. And so any single
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: person that's like taking you from that, from that point
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: in your life, it's just not worth it, you know. Um.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying don't help, but sometimes you have
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: to take a step back and realize, Okay, am I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: really helping? Am I really enabling? And is there a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: better way to do so? So I always tell clients
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: is this, if somebody calls your family, member, cousin, friend, whatever,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: anybody calls you're asking you for money, it's just simply
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: just tell them just to write up a three four
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: page business plan. See if they'll do it. And then
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: you're thinking, yeah, don't do it. Want to give me
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: this just to go to go, you know what I mean?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Or just make them do a little work, you know
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Or hey, I want to get into this. Okay, cool,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I'll pay for your courses, you know. So like make
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: people meet you, make people meet you, Um, at least halfway,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: you know. But um, it's it's it's tough to it's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: it's tough when you're younger because of the survivor's guilt
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: and the way people make you feel. And also, um,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: you don't want to be the only person on the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: hill by yourself. Right, So I'm like, you'll pick your
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  Speaker 1: ball and let's go. Everybody can't come? Yeah, and you're young.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody more people, Yeah, you gotta everybody can come. What
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  Speaker 1: are ways that the average person without much extra unspoken
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  Speaker 1: for income, you know, how can they start financially empowering themselves?
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  Speaker 1: The great question I think the first thing for anyone
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, um, is like, have
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  Speaker 1: a conversation about money and what it means to you.
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  Speaker 1: What what does it mean? What does it mean? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't think people like is it it's to
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  Speaker 1: get rich? Is it to have nice things? Like what
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  Speaker 1: is it? What is it? Um? What is the value
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  Speaker 1: that you want to derive for money? From there, you
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  Speaker 1: have to start being disciplined and how you're spending. Right,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like figure out what are your bills? What
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  Speaker 1: your bills are? You know, and I said, I said
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  Speaker 1: pay yourself first. So before you pay your your bills,
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  Speaker 1: pay yourself first. But what I mean that say first,
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  Speaker 1: you know, put ten percent away first, and then oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, whatever you can, whatever you can
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  Speaker 1: afford to. Just start to discipline of putting something away,
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  Speaker 1: pay both paying yourself first. You know, your check comes
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  Speaker 1: in and you're saving his account, you save ten percent
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  Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Paid yourself first. Then you start
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  Speaker 1: to pay your bills and over time like that discipline,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, allowed you to to to
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  Speaker 1: start to build up your cash reserves. Right then you
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  Speaker 1: also have to think about debt. What kind of debt
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  Speaker 1: do you have? You know? And I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of young people a man get to get really unraveled
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  Speaker 1: and consumer debt um and so a lot of credit
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  Speaker 1: card debt and so you have to figure out you
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  Speaker 1: gotta take care that that that debt as soon as possible,
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  Speaker 1: because just so crippling. This interest rates are crazy, right,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: and nobody prepares you for that. They walk, you walk on,
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  Speaker 1: you walk onto college campus, and you know, for a
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  Speaker 1: pizza and a T shirt. He's a he's he's a
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  Speaker 1: he's a he's a visa credit card. Not no one,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Literally that's what happens to me. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it's illegal. Now. When I was in college, it
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  Speaker 1: was like every time you went to the quad, there
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  Speaker 1: would be a new credit card company trying to sign
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  Speaker 1: you up and give you hot dog or slice the pizza.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, one days where I was running low,
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  Speaker 1: like well, dang, I wants the visa, I was signed
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  Speaker 1: up for the card. Now you know, I had no
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  Speaker 1: I had no financial literacy, had no concept of credit
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  Speaker 1: or what it could do to you, or you know
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  Speaker 1: even that you really had to pay it back right
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  Speaker 1: away or what it interests rate is you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it's in trouble for a while. Man, that is
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: that is crippling. You know, I had an old Navy
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  Speaker 1: card that almost took me out. Yeah, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: um having financial stability, Um, it's almost like you know,
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  Speaker 1: um getting in shape, right, It's very simple, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: you make this much, live like this, save this much,
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  Speaker 1: and and and and as you get more you you escalate.
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  Speaker 1: You in those disciplines, people just overspend, you know. I
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: mean I see people all the time with balenci balenciagas
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  Speaker 1: on and I'm like, what what would you have an
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  Speaker 1: et T shirt on? You know what I mean? And
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: and you're and you have you know, used to working
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: in your Like it's just it's just changing the mindset
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  Speaker 1: of just not being a consumer but being um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: an investor if anything, like you know you're buying all
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  Speaker 1: this George may buy some Nike style, you know, go
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  Speaker 1: from being the consumer to be the investor, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. So hard, we're not most of us
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  Speaker 1: are not tough financial literacy, you know, and most of
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  Speaker 1: us there's a lot of people whose parents weren't financially
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  Speaker 1: literally who you know exist see one pay check to
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  Speaker 1: one paycheck, So you just don't have that modeling, especially
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: in black and brown communities. I feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know what's so crazy, there's so much survival, so
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  Speaker 1: much survival, and it's almost like even even like trying
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  Speaker 1: to talk ment to heaven you know, I try to
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  Speaker 1: do a lot of work workshops and enighbor and you know,
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  Speaker 1: an urban neighborhoods and talk about communities and trying to
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  Speaker 1: get people to put together will man. Man, it's like
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: you know they you know, it's it's like it's almost
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  Speaker 1: like you've been beating up for so long that you're
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  Speaker 1: like your own your own life is worthy, right because
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: think about it, the reason why you save, or I save,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: or anyone saves is because they innately believe that the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: feature will be better. Yeah, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you you know, you're saving because you like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: life is going to get better, right, But if you
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: don't have that home and you know, and like you
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: just living day to day, it's very very hard. You know,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: it's very very very very hard to change that that
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  Speaker 1: that generation of that of that plight. So I'm sensitive
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  Speaker 1: to that. For sure. This is the age and we're
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: gonna have to wrap up soon, but this is the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: age of the entrepreneur. So one way that I definitely
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: see a lot of people elevating themselves um in the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: recent years is by having side hustles. It's by doing
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: things on the side to add that extra money, so
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: they have disposable income to do things like travel or
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: save or you know, build towards something else. Like a
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: lot of people are fully on their grind mode right now.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: What are what would you think are some ways that
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: people can start generating extra income, even just small amounts,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: right Just to give you a little more breathing room, Yeah,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: we know, there there, there's there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things you can do to make extra income that I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure are legal. But this is what I fundamentally believe
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  Speaker 1: in my heart of hearts. The quicker you can find
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  Speaker 1: something that that just keeps you up at night that
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  Speaker 1: you love. I just want to sinking teething and put
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: in ten years of undeniable persistence. That's how you transform
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  Speaker 1: your life because at some point you only get compensated
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: based on how rare you are. Write that down, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's you will you will only
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: get conservation how rare you are. You know, you can
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: have six stand up comedy, six stand up comedians doing
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: doing routines, but one is making. It's just like I'm
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: telling you, you can be you know, you can be
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: doing the same job. But so so it's like a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: lot of side houses to me, like it's it's almost
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: like when when when the captain doesn't know what direction
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: you know the ship is going no wind dis favorable,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like it's, you know,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: the quicker come, you know the quicker. You can just
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: like lock in on something and put in ten years,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: you know, the quicker. You're gonna be gonna separate yourself
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: and then the money will come, you know what I mean.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: But the nobody wants to Nobody wants to talk about
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: ten years though, you know I say nobody wants to nobody.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: They just so I just feel like, if you're if
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: you want to transform your life, you gotta you gotta
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: lock in the way we think about time is so interesting.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: You know, ten years seems like an eternity. Actually, depending
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: on what age you are in early twenties, ten years
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: is unfathomable. Um, but ten years fly blink of an eye.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing that I've really realized is the time
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  Speaker 1: is going to pass anyway. It's going to pass anyway.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: You know, the time is gonna pass anyway. Because sometimes
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: some of your goals seem very like insurmountable or like
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: oh God, but that's gonna you know, if I want
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: to do this, that's gonna take me four years to
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: do and that so I'm just not even going to
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: attempt this too much. Well, the time it's going to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: pass anyway, pass anyway, But the end of that four
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: years or ten years or what will you have to
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: show for it? Man? You know? And we get into
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: our thirties, right, which is a crazy which is a
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: crazy time because you know, I remember being a high
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: school and fifties had the realist line. He was like,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: damn homie. In high school, he was the man homie.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Well you know what happened to you, happened up you,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: and and it was just like you didn't thought about
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: it because you was a kid. But now I'm thirty
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: three and you're saying, like the people you grew up with,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: it's just like, man, that ten years can change everything,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: you know what, it can change everything? And so and uh, man,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: it's what you have to put in the work, and
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no way around it, right, um.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: And I just think that sometimes people just want to
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: like get there, right, But think about it, man, Like
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: you if you if you were driving from New York
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: City to California and the pitch dark, and the only
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: thing you can see is the hundred feet of headlight.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Right That's all you can see. But if you keep
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: going forward, the next one to feet show up. You
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: keep going forward, the next hun to fee show up.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Eventually you get to California. Only see a hundred feet
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: at a time, you know what I mean. And so
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: to me, that's how life works. It's like, what is
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: your hundred feet right now? So the hundred feet right now?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe okay, man, I need to go finish this accounting
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: class or this design course. You'll go kill it, and
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: then then the next hundred feet, you know what I mean.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: So when then you'll be you'll be surprised how far
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: you've It's almost like when you keep your head down
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: and you lock in. When you look up, you're surprised
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: as far you went because you've been so you know
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: what I mean when you like, I made that much headway?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: But harn I feed at the time. Are you avid reader?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my god? If man, you have, reading is the
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: most important thing to me because it allows you. Reading
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: is almost like having this like two months, like dinner
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: with one of the most brilliant minds in the world.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine you read man? You gotta If you don't,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: you you got to read. You have to read, man,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: because it just changes how you read the world. You know. Yeah,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: so much, so much. Listen to podcasts, love podcasts, audio books,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's why I go back to a
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: lot of people. You know, we have so much access
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: to information that if you're not getting it done, you
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: just don't want to. Yeah, and you can't and you
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: can't teach one to and you can't teach one to
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: like it's man Like, we've seen some crazy things in
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: that generation. Man, We've seen some crazy We've seen people
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: transfer Like, you can do anything if you just want to,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: and you really if you put that work in, you know.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: So I've never someone who's hard working, who's extremely disciplined
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: and and works at their craft, you know, diligently daying
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: and day out, like complain of bad luck. You know,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: I've never seen it. You're gonna get somewhere worth going,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: you know, before we get out of here, give everybody
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: listening one book recommendation and one podcast recommendation. Definitely, definitely
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: definitely this podcast, um, you know, but they're already here
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: they're already here. I know the book that changed my
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: life is Thinking Grow Rich. But Napoleon Hill. I think
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: if you haven't read it, you gotta read it. Think
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. It's like, man, it
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: just changes your mindset. It just really really really really
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: changes your mindset. Um. And uh in a podcast that
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: I really love that I listened to all the times. Uh.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: I like Tim Ferris podcast because seeing the views world
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: class leaders and and he dissects like their and their
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: qualities on how they got what they got, you know,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: and he breaks down he breaks it down. And I
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: think for people that want to just learn about all
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: types of different fasts, that's are really really good one. Um, yeah,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: that's what amazing. Write it down. Yeah, son, this is
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: crazy to Thanks for having me, you know what I mean. Um,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I gotta say this, you know before I go. Um.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: You know, humility should be um a part of um
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: of any person, especially when the successes of your life
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: is because of the sacrifices of your friends. Right. And
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: so as a man, I'm a I'm a African from Uganda,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: financial manager. This is crazy, right, what I've become is
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: because you you guys believed in me when it when
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: it was just like it doesn't make sense, you know
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: what I mean to put your entire life into this
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: young man's hands a years old, right, So to me,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I just want to thank you and thank all my
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: other my other clients to who have really really gave
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: me a chance to to to to prove them right
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: right and so, um, I'm honored to be in your podcast.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: I'm honored to be in your life, um, and I'm
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: honored that i I've served you well you know, so
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: thanks for having me for sure. Thank you, humble, Thank
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: you for existing. Oh man, I'm grateful to God for you.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: I'm glad he made you. I'm honored to know you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: and very grateful that he made you. So. I love you.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: I love you more, I love you more. Peace, peace, big.
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