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  Speaker 1: I'm Chris Hansen right now on Prime Watch Daily. From
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  Speaker 1: here in New York.
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  Speaker 2: A Philadelphia murder mystery. A wife and mother found rudely
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  Speaker 2: beaten to death on the floor of her hull.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine the horror seeing someone coming at her in a suit,
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  Speaker 3: a mask, and a crow.
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  Speaker 1: Bar, a window smashed, a blood bath in the.
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  Speaker 4: Kitchen, yet literally beaten her face and to remove her identity.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of monster would commit such an evil crime.
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  Speaker 2: Her husband, an Ivy League professor, has an alibi, but
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  Speaker 2: the crime scene is littered with clues.
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  Speaker 5: No burglar would do that today.
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  Speaker 2: How cops called the killer, and in a case that
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  Speaker 2: rocked the Philly courts, the monster walked free until now.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to crime Watch Daily, everyone, I'm Chris Hansen. First
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  Speaker 2: up today. A story that made huge headlines in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: The wife of an ivy league professor is brutally murdered
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  Speaker 2: while wrapping Christmas presents in her home and the killer
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  Speaker 2: is walking the streets as a freeman right now.
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  Speaker 1: As you watch this.
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  Speaker 3: In a horror movie, there is always a monster.
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  Speaker 1: A wife and mother is brutally slaughter.
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  Speaker 3: Horribly and tragically.
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  Speaker 12: She was alive as he beat her brains out.
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  Speaker 1: Who's behind this savage attack?
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  Speaker 3: Imagine the horror seeing someone coming at her in a suit,
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  Speaker 3: the mask and gloves and a crow bar.
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  Speaker 1: It's a murder mystery like no other.
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  Speaker 5: They're still amateur killers and were professional captures of.
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  Speaker 1: Killers with an ending no one saw coming.
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  Speaker 5: That got us thinking that maybe this was some of
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  Speaker 5: this was staged.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody else was out there who was going to come
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  Speaker 4: get her.
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  Speaker 2: It's the day before Christmas break for most people in
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  Speaker 2: the affluent area of Upper Marion Township, Pennsylvania. When Raphael
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  Speaker 2: rob a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, returns from
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  Speaker 2: morning errands to discover his wife Ellen, in a pool
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  Speaker 2: of blood. He calls police. There's no audio of the call,
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  Speaker 2: but in a transcript release by the Upper Marian Police Department,
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  Speaker 2: Raphael states, Hello, Yeah, I just came home and found
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  Speaker 2: my wife murdered on the case foor, the officer responding,
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  Speaker 2: she's killed.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, how can you tell? I know? Her head is cracked?
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  Speaker 1: Is there anyone in the house. There is a.
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  Speaker 2: Broken window in the back. Okay, stay out front. There
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  Speaker 2: are police and an ambulance coming. In minutes police arrive
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  Speaker 2: and cordon off the area. Inside. It appears that housewife
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  Speaker 2: and mother, Ellen rob was wrapping up last minute holiday
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  Speaker 2: gifts in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 5: She had been seated at a kitchen table oddly facing
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  Speaker 5: the wall.
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  Speaker 1: Ellen never sees it coming.
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  Speaker 5: A shotgun blast to the face. Experienced detectives would initially
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  Speaker 5: see a wound or a series of wounds like that
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  Speaker 5: and think shotgun blast.
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  Speaker 1: Next.
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  Speaker 2: CSI moves in and documents the blood bath. Every grizzly
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  Speaker 2: angle captured.
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  Speaker 4: The photos that we saw in this case pale into
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  Speaker 4: comparison that anything we've ever seen. We have seen horrendous accidents,
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  Speaker 4: people being hit by, people being eaten alive by animals,
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  Speaker 4: and these photos were the worst we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 5: There was a lot of blood around where her body
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  Speaker 5: was found, mostly at the head area.
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  Speaker 2: Police speak with Ellen's husband, Raphael. They asked him where
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  Speaker 2: he was during the morning hours his wife was viciously murdered.
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  Speaker 2: Rafael explains he took his twelve year old daughter Olivia
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  Speaker 2: to school, stopped at a local grocery store, then dropped
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  Speaker 2: off his grades at the University of Pennsylvania before returning
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  Speaker 2: home to find his wife.
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  Speaker 5: He was away during the time when Allan probably was killed.
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  Speaker 2: Investigators pulled surveillance footage of his various stops. Rafael's alibi
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  Speaker 2: appears to check out. Detectives continued to search the home
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  Speaker 2: looking for clues. That's when they spot shards of glass
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  Speaker 2: by a back door.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody had broken glass and it was one of those
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  Speaker 5: doors where with a broken pane of glass, a burglar
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  Speaker 5: could reach in and unlock a door.
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  Speaker 1: Right away, Investigators theorized.
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  Speaker 5: It must have been a burglary that occurred there, and
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  Speaker 5: the motor for murder the victim's going to identify the perpetrator.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like an open and shut case.
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  Speaker 2: Then, as police continue to collect evidence and piece together
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  Speaker 2: what happened. Ellen's brother Gary arrives. He's there to pick
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  Speaker 2: up his sister for the holidays.
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  Speaker 13: As I drove up to the house, I saw the
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  Speaker 13: house quarantine with the police tape, jumped out of my
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  Speaker 13: car and quickly learned that she had been killed.
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  Speaker 1: It's devastating news for Gary. Ellen is more than his sister.
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  Speaker 1: She's like a second mother to him.
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  Speaker 12: When she was in college, she worked three jobs and
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  Speaker 12: sent her earnings home to my mother so that she
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  Speaker 12: could support my brother and myself while she raised us
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  Speaker 12: as a single parent.
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  Speaker 1: And now sadly she's gone.
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  Speaker 13: I saw them put her lifeless body in the ambulance.
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  Speaker 1: The timing couldn't be more tragic.
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  Speaker 13: She was going to come up to Boston to celebrate
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  Speaker 13: her fiftieth birthday, to celebrate Christmas with her daughter and
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  Speaker 13: our family.
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  Speaker 2: Then, in front of a swarm of black and whites,
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  Speaker 2: a yellow school bus pulls up.
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  Speaker 1: It's Raphael and Ellen's twelve year old daughter, Olivia.
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  Speaker 4: She comes home to see her house surrounded with police tape,
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  Speaker 4: flashing lights everywhere, policeman ambulance. She gets out, walks up
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  Speaker 4: to her house, and a twelve year old girl says,
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  Speaker 4: I live here.
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  Speaker 2: Gary sends his knees to a neighbor's house while he
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  Speaker 2: tries to comprehend the tragedy unfolding in front of his eyes.
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  Speaker 13: Immediately, thoughts run through your mind as to how could
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  Speaker 13: this possibly happen? You're in a most peaceful, beautiful suburban
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  Speaker 13: neighborhood outside of Philadelphia. Murders and killings of this nature
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  Speaker 13: just don't occur in that section of suburban Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: Authorities continue to investigate the case as a burglary gone
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  Speaker 2: horribly wrong, and now they can't help but wonder if
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  Speaker 2: there's a murderer on the loose looking to rob a
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  Speaker 2: how's why alone in their homes. The only problem is
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  Speaker 2: that Ellen wasn't alone.
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  Speaker 5: There was a little dog there, and animals invariably walk
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  Speaker 5: in the blood and trample blood prints all over the place.
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  Speaker 5: But the dog was locked in a bedroom.
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  Speaker 1: Who does that?
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  Speaker 5: No burglar would do that.
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  Speaker 2: And there's something else that's troublesome for detectives. The broken
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  Speaker 2: window pane on the door where the burglar allegedly gained.
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  Speaker 5: Entry, none of the glasses crushed beneath where the killer
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  Speaker 5: would have walked.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not just contradictory evidence on the floor. It's
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  Speaker 1: on the ceiling too, the.
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  Speaker 5: Way the blood cast off had been found on various patterns,
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  Speaker 5: especially on the ceiling.
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  Speaker 2: Detectives believe the blood spatter patterns don't match up with
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  Speaker 2: a shotgun blast to the face.
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  Speaker 5: The blood splatter that was particularly critical, and.
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  Speaker 2: It's not long before their suspicions are confirmed when Ellen's
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  Speaker 2: X rays come back from the morgue and the results x.
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  Speaker 5: Rays had shown that it was not a gunshot wound
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  Speaker 5: that had been a blo on forced trauma injury. It
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  Speaker 5: immediately changes the focus of the type of person that
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  Speaker 5: you were looking for coming up. We're talking about a
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  Speaker 5: bad guy with a black heart.
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  Speaker 2: Ellen Robb was innocently wrapping Christmas presents when someone busted
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  Speaker 2: into her home outside of Philadelphia and bludgeoned her to death.
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  Speaker 2: The initial reports are it could have been a robbery
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  Speaker 2: gone bad. However, some of the evidence that the crime
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  Speaker 2: scene is starting to tell a different story. Forty nine
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  Speaker 2: year old wife and mother Ellen Robb is beaten to
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  Speaker 2: death inside her upscale, Pennsylvania home.
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  Speaker 5: Ellen Robb's face was obliterated.
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  Speaker 12: How could this possibly happen?
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  Speaker 2: Now that police have ruled out a burglary gone wrong,
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  Speaker 2: they start to believe the murder is an inside job.
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  Speaker 5: I cannot tell you how many murders I did in
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  Speaker 5: my career where the person the last person is somebody
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  Speaker 5: alive and the first person that seemed dead is the killer.
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  Speaker 2: And in this case that person is Ellen's husband Roughie coincidence.
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  Speaker 5: It was apparent pretty quickly that he did have a motive.
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  Speaker 2: When police interviewed Ellen's brother, they find out Ellen didn't
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  Speaker 2: die on just any day.
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  Speaker 1: It was the day.
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  Speaker 13: The day that Ellen was struck down and killed brutally,
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  Speaker 13: the most terrific bludgeoning in the history of Montgomery County,
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  Speaker 13: Pennsylvanian over half a century. Was the day she was
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  Speaker 13: to have her own emancipation.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Ellen was leaving Rafael and Garie was on his way
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  Speaker 2: to take his sister and her daughter Olivia to Boston.
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  Speaker 13: But he clearly understood that she was leaving, and it
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  Speaker 13: was at that point of her freedom that he struck
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  Speaker 13: her down and killed her.
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  Speaker 2: According to Ellen's brother, she planned to divorce Rafael after
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  Speaker 2: years of verbal, mental, and more recently.
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  Speaker 13: Physical abuse began.
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  Speaker 2: But if Rafael has the motive to kill Ellen, what
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  Speaker 2: about his seemingly solid alibi ends up just like his
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  Speaker 2: wife's murder, The alibi is overkilled.
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  Speaker 5: He would be in places where he knows that there
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  Speaker 5: would be surveillance video.
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  Speaker 2: Detectives claim at this local wah Wah convenience storm, he
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  Speaker 2: stood in front of a surveillance camera for several minutes
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  Speaker 2: and for seemingly no reason, while he drank an entire soda.
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  Speaker 5: So amateurish as to be laughable. It was creating a
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  Speaker 5: series of places that he had gone that would be
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  Speaker 5: plausibly linked together.
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  Speaker 1: But there's just one problem.
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  Speaker 5: That was not in conformity with what we thought. The
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  Speaker 5: timeline was.
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  Speaker 2: Now making it possible that Raphael is at home during
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  Speaker 2: the time his wife is ruthlessly slaughter and according to investigators,
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  Speaker 2: evidence found at the house points to Raphael as the
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  Speaker 2: true killer.
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  Speaker 1: First, up, the dog.
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  Speaker 5: He intentionally locked the dog away before he went to
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  Speaker 5: do the killing, and no burglar would do that.
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  Speaker 2: Second, the door where the supposed burglar made entry.
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  Speaker 5: It actually looked to me like it had been broken
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  Speaker 5: from the inside out.
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  Speaker 2: And third, the coroner's finding that Ellen is killed by
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  Speaker 2: blunt force trauma.
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  Speaker 5: When a killer uses a blunt force object to commit
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  Speaker 5: a killing and strikes repeatedly. Once blood begins to flow
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  Speaker 5: from the victim, it gets on the weapon, and every
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  Speaker 5: time the killer raises and lowers it that blood splatters someplace.
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  Speaker 2: According to authorities, a beating like this one is up
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  Speaker 2: close and very.
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  Speaker 5: Personal somebody who has a reason to want this person
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  Speaker 5: to be dead.
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  Speaker 2: While investigators zero in on Raphael, they lack one crucial
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  Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle, the murder weapon.
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  Speaker 5: We had actually been told by the pathologists to look
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  Speaker 5: for a long cylindrical objects.
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  Speaker 2: A murder weapon is never recovered. Still, prosecutors move ahead
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  Speaker 2: with their case.
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  Speaker 5: I arrested, I'm a charge them with first degree murder.
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  Speaker 2: But there's just one problem, and it's about to turn
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  Speaker 2: this case on its head. District Attorney Bruce Caster doesn't
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  Speaker 2: believe Raphael is a cold blooded killer.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't think that that's what fit the evidence. I
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  Speaker 5: had a written report from two who the psychiatrists, telling
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  Speaker 5: me that this was a rage killing. A rage killing
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  Speaker 5: where the killer strikes more blows with more force, far
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  Speaker 5: more than is necessary to bring about death. That tells
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  Speaker 5: us the type of mindset of the person that we're
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  Speaker 5: looking for.
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  Speaker 2: Meaning Rafael killed his wife, but in a sudden loss
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  Speaker 2: of control versus a premeditated action. DA Castor claims it's
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  Speaker 2: a crime of passion brought on by a triggering event.
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  Speaker 2: In this case, he believes it's a conversation about Ellen's
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  Speaker 2: plans to leave Raphael.
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  Speaker 5: He has a complete freak out, grabs the nearest thing
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  Speaker 5: that's capable of producing death, and then goes to town
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  Speaker 5: on her head. But unless he miss he did it,
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  Speaker 5: then I don't have any choice but to put on
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  Speaker 5: the events that I do have.
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  Speaker 2: For the next eleven months. Rafael sits in jail on
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  Speaker 2: murder one charges, facing life in prison and possibly the
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  Speaker 2: death penalty.
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  Speaker 1: He swears he's innocent.
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  Speaker 5: Now I have a problem because I can't actually go
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  Speaker 5: and try to convince a jury that's a first degree
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  Speaker 5: case one. I actually think it's a voluntary manslaughter case.
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  Speaker 2: But then, just before Rafael's case is set to go
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  Speaker 2: to trial, this bombshell he cops to the brutal slaying
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  Speaker 2: of his wife.
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  Speaker 13: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Rafael admits to prosecutors that he beat his wife's face
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  Speaker 2: in with a nearby china bar. He staged the break
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  Speaker 2: in and disposed of the weapon and bloody clothes in
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  Speaker 2: a dumpster in Chinatown. In his words, he just lost
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  Speaker 2: it when he learned Ellen planned to take their daughter
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  Speaker 2: to Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 5: Facts that developed fit the forensics.
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  Speaker 2: But Rafael's confession is a game changer for the state's
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  Speaker 2: case against him.
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  Speaker 5: It no longer is a provable first green murder case
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  Speaker 5: in my judgment, because remember, it's proved beyond a reasonable doubt.
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  Speaker 2: And prosecutors believe a crime of passion or a rage
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  Speaker 2: killing creates enough doubt to derail a first green murder conviision,
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  Speaker 2: which requires proof of premeditation.
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  Speaker 13: The district attorney he stated there was a lot of
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  Speaker 13: circumstantial evidence no murder weapon was found, and that he
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  Speaker 13: felt that it would give the family peace to accept
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  Speaker 13: a play deal.
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  Speaker 2: As part of a negotiated plea deal, Rafael pleads guilty
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  Speaker 2: to a voluntary manslaughter charge, which carries a maximum sentence
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  Speaker 2: of twenty years, but in a shocking decision by the court,
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  Speaker 2: the judge sentences Rafael rob to a lesser sentence of
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  Speaker 2: just ten years. And get this, Rafael has a chance
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  Speaker 2: of rule after only five years.
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  Speaker 13: How could this possibly happen?
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  Speaker 1: Ellen's family is horrified by the verdict.
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  Speaker 13: We had no understanding of the legal system as it
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  Speaker 13: related to manslaughter versus murder, that the sentence guidelines could
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  Speaker 13: be as low as two to five years for manslaughter.
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  Speaker 5: I argued that the facts and circumstances warranted the maximum
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  Speaker 5: sentence of twenty years. The judge didn't agree and imposed
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  Speaker 5: the ten ure term. I didn't expect him to.
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  Speaker 2: Do that, but it did happen, and now Ellen's family
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  Speaker 2: has to live with a verdict without their loved one.
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  Speaker 13: Our family without Ellen is it is not complete.
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  Speaker 12: We're not whole and we never will be.
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  Speaker 2: Then five years pass, and just as Ellen's family feared,
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  Speaker 2: he was paroled. You heard right, Raphael rob is a freeman,
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  Speaker 2: if for just five years behind box.
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  Speaker 13: It's remarkable to think that after serving only five of
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  Speaker 13: a five to ten year sentence, he was actually paroled
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  Speaker 13: by the Pennsylvania Parole Board.
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  Speaker 12: It's very, very troubling.
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  Speaker 2: But Ellen's brother is determined that Raphael serves the full
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  Speaker 2: ten years.
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  Speaker 13: We decided to fight it because it was an outrage
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  Speaker 13: not only to our family, but to all victims of
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  Speaker 13: domestic violence and abuse.
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  Speaker 2: And in an unprecedented and historic move, the Parole Board
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  Speaker 2: makes an announcement.
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  Speaker 6: And My message to mister Rob is that this is
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  Speaker 6: the captain speaking and your flight to freedom has been canceled.
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  Speaker 13: In the first time in the history of Pennsylvania, parole
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  Speaker 13: was rescinded for a violent offender, and rightfully.
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  Speaker 1: So, that's correct.
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  Speaker 2: Rafael Rob is suddenly heading back to prison to finish
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  Speaker 2: out his full ten year sentence.
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  Speaker 1: But Ellen's family is just getting.
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  Speaker 2: Started coming up. A new team of lawyers is on
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  Speaker 2: the case.
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  Speaker 12: This was a premeditated murder.
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  Speaker 1: And they say they have new evidence that changes everything.
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  Speaker 3: Police found an additional taibek suit a hazmat suit in
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  Speaker 3: his BMW.
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  Speaker 2: Ten years the shocking amount of time Ivy League economics
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  Speaker 2: professor Rafael Rob spent in prison after admitting to beating
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  Speaker 2: his wife to death while she wrapped Christmas presents. After
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  Speaker 2: admitting to killing his wife in a fit of passion,
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  Speaker 2: Raphael Rob is charged with voluntary manslaughter and sentenced to
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  Speaker 2: ten years for the brutal killing of his wife Ellen.
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  Speaker 1: After serving the full ten Rob was released from.
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  Speaker 2: Prison just as past January. Ellen's family says, hold on.
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  Speaker 13: He can't simply go back into society unfettered while the
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  Speaker 13: memory of my sister fades away. Ellen is serving a
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  Speaker 13: lifetime sentence in the grave that we all share and
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  Speaker 13: he is out free.
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  Speaker 12: It's very, very troubling.
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  Speaker 2: Outraged by the light sentence, Ellen's family wants justice and
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  Speaker 2: moves ahead with their wrongful death lawsuit filed during Rafael's
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  Speaker 2: attempt at a five year parole.
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  Speaker 13: In looking back at the plea deal today and the
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  Speaker 13: fact that Rob only served a five to ten year sentence,
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  Speaker 13: it weighs heavily on the family.
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  Speaker 2: Ellen's family hires attorneys Andrew Duffy and Robert Mongaloo to
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  Speaker 2: represent their civil case.
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  Speaker 4: The family talked to us and they asked us to
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  Speaker 4: prove what they believed could be proved and that this
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  Speaker 4: was a premeditator murder.
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  Speaker 2: And after reviewing the evidence, they think they have a
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  Speaker 2: strong case.
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  Speaker 4: Anybody who did this to any human being, let alone
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  Speaker 4: his wonderful wife and mother of his only child, should
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  Speaker 4: spend every second of their life in jail for the
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  Speaker 4: rest of their life.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: The plaintiff's attorneys break down the evidence that they presented
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: to a civil jury. They start at the beginning Rafael's
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: phone call to police.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Rafael, Rob did not call nine to one one.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: That's right, He called the direct police line and why
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: is that significant?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: They wanted to set up his alibi. He didn't want
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: to be recorded.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: He would have known that nine to one one would.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Record his call.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Another thing they say points to premeditation, the complete lack
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: of blood evidence found on Rafael.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Attorneys Duffy and Mangalouzi.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Argue, how in the world would that be possible in
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the middle of such a blood bat.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: He claimed that somehow after the murder in this slaughterhouse,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: that he took off his shirt, his pants, his socks,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: and his shoes, somehow hopped across the blood spattered floor
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: to the hallway, went upstairs, found baby wipes, cleaned himself up,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: changed into clothes without a.
• 19:37
  Speaker 9: Drop of blood.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: It was incredible, implausible, and an absolute lie.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: They have their own theory to explain the lack of
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: blood on Rafael and its explosive new evidence.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: He had a TIEVEX suit. Police found an additional TIEX
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: suit a hazmat suit in his BMW.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: The eight dead too has med style suits. According to
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: the plaintiff's attorneys, one suit used in the murder and
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the other a backup suit he forgot to discard with
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the other evidence.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: If Raphael Rob was a chemist. If he worked in
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: an industrial plant, he would have a potential justification for
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: having a TIEVEX suit in his BMW. Raphael Rob was
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: a professor of economics at the University of Pennsylvania. There
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: was no rhyme or reason why he would have a
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: TIEX suit in the back of his BMW.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Attorneys Duffy and Mongaloozi claim it's the most reasonable explanation
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: for why there wasn't any blood on Raphael.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: We proved that the blood trail stopped abruptly in the garage,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: and that only means that a TIEVEX suit was on,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: was taken off, was discarded, So the only thing left
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: after the Type K suit was taken off was a
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: blood free murder.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Then there's the issue of the murder weapon, which was
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: never recovered.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Rafael Rob claims that he began to argue with Alan,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: he grabbed a chin up bar and that he beat
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: her to death with it. Those wounds that were found
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: on Alan Gregory Rob were sharp, lacerating wounds. They're consistent
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: with a sharp object such as a crow bar and
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: not a round chin up bar.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Then they enter into evidence pictures of the Rob's garage
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: and the tools.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: We had a picture of all the tools lined up,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: and a crowbar happened to be missing. The physical facts
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: pointed that this was not a chin up bar. This
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: was absolutely a jagged edged instrument such as a crowbar.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Which the PLANEFFS attorneys argue means he had to go
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: find the weapon. It wasn't just nearby and grabbed in
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: a fit of rage. It shows pre thought in planning
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: on Rafael's part. Also, they claim a crowbar weapon better
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: explains the horrific damage done to Ellen's head.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I will never be able to get those photos out
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: of my mind. Ellen was unidentifiable. He had literally beaten
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: her face in to remove her identity.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: The civil trial lawyers then point to something obvious Rafael
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Rom's job at.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: The University of Pennsylvania.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: He's an economics professor who specializes in get this game theory.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: It's the science of logical decision making involving strategic thinking
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: and planning.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: People who are proficient and game theory plan things out.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: They have backup plans.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: In plain terms, this was a premeditator murder.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: He had it all planned out, but he didn't plan
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: for his story unraveling so quickly.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Then they introduced a letter written by Rafael to his
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: daughter Olivia two years after the murder.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: This is the letter that, in hindsight, was the single
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: most important piece of evidence at the civil trial.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: In the letter, Rafael is asking for photos of his
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: daughter and the two of them together. He's hoping to
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: show that he's a good father in order to receive
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: a lighter punishment during the sentencing phase. In exchange, he
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: promises to send her Christmas gifts and money.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: He goes on, I'd hate to delay sending you the gift,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: but I won't do so unless I get these items.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Won't the love of money propel you into action? Love
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: and kisses dad x.
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: X x.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: And with all this damning evidence, the civil trial kicks
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: off and attorney Mangaloozy comes out swinging. In his opening
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: remark in civil court transcripts, he states, you are a
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: killer and a liar, mister rob, aren't you? Rafael responds, killer,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: he has lie to yes. Also this stunning courtroom exchange,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: it appears Rafael is blaming his wife for her own murder.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: It goes like this, Rafael says, my wife pushed me.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: MONGALUZI so you're claiming to this jury that Ellen provoked
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you into murdering her.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Rafael responds, she pushed me, I got angry, I lost
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: my faculties.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: That's what happened.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Then the biggest moment arrives and the Plainet's attorneys call
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: their star witness.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: The doors open up. She walks up to the stand
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: and the jury doesn't see a twelve year old girl anymore.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Now they see a twenty year old young lady. It's Olivia.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: This is the first time she's seen her father, Rafael,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: since that faithful day eight years before.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: It was the most emotional, dramatic event that may have
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: been witnessed in any courtroom anywhere.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Olivia's testimony is documented in court transcripts. A portion of
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: her testimony it reads this way, Attorney Duffy says, Olivia,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: before your father took your mother from you, did you
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: fear your father? Olivia responds yes, Attorney Duffy, Why, Olivia,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: my father could just lose his temper really rapidly and quickly.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Olivia testified that and ended her testimony with the thing
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: that disappoints her most when she meets new people is
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: that those new people don't get to meet her mother.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: The civil trial ends and the attorneys for Ellen's estate rest.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: We proved that Rafael Rob intentionally and with premeditation murdered
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: his wife. This was no crime of.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Passion, and the jury agrees, awarding the largest civil suit
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: payout in Pennsylvania history.
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: One hundred and twenty four million dollars.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Despite all the evidence in the civil trial, Rafael Rob
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: is out of prison, yes, living as a freeman. He
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: walked down from behind Ball in January of twenty seventeen
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: after serving his full ten year sentence for manslaughter. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: while Rob can never be tried a second time for murder,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Allen's family has decided to turn their tragedy into triumph.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: They create the foundation Every Great Reason an acronym for
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Ellen's initials.
• 26:18
  Speaker 13: We have passionately worked for nearly a decade to achieve
• 26:23
  Speaker 13: many goals on behalf of victims of domestic violence and.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Abuse, most notably creating Ellen's Law, which allows victims to
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: meet with the parole board prior to any prisoner's release
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: and helping others is bringing some solace to Ellen's families,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: but they're still learning to live with the laws.
• 26:42
  Speaker 13: When she walked in, she would light up her room,
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: and she would do so in a way that was
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: not centered on herself but huh, excuse me, but on
• 26:53
  Speaker 13: all of those around her. Just an amazing individual.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Tragically taken by the hands of a monster.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: He slaughtered his wife as something out of a horror movie.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: And in a horror movie, there is always a monster,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: and the monster here was Rafael Rob.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: For more on the civil case currently pending against Rafael
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Rob in Philadelphia, I'm joined by Andrew Duffy, who represents
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Ellen Robb's family. Drew, I know the judge recently scolded
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Rafael Rob in court. What is the very latest on
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the civil judgement?
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: Well, I did upset the judge.
• 27:32
  Speaker 14: The judge told him, doctor Rob, your words have meaning.
• 27:35
  Speaker 14: Please understand that the very latest is right now.
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: We are on a pursuit.
• 27:41
  Speaker 14: To literally find every single asset that doctor Rob has
• 27:44
  Speaker 14: in the world, because the judge has given us this
• 27:47
  Speaker 14: ability to conduct what's called financial discovery. In the financial discovery,
• 27:50
  Speaker 14: we get to learn the total value of all his assets.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And what do you think the total value of those
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: assets is right now?
• 27:56
  Speaker 14: They are roughly between three and four million dollars.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Rob recently said in court that he wanted to move
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh, but if he didn't have enough money to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: do so, he would return to the family home where
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: he killed his wife.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Is there any justice to that?
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: There's no justice to this. Is it possible legally? Yes?
• 28:11
  Speaker 14: Unfortunately, there's something in Pennsylvania called the slayer statue. The
• 28:15
  Speaker 14: slayer statue gives murderers, believe it or not, what's called
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: a life estate in the house that they used to
• 28:21
  Speaker 14: own jointly with the person that they murder.
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: So does he own it?
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: No?
• 28:25
  Speaker 14: Can he return to it and live in it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: Till he dies? Yes? He can legally.
• 28:29
  Speaker 14: Is it probable No, Wayne, Pennsylvania is a wonderful, close
• 28:34
  Speaker 14: knit community. I highly doubt he will want to move
• 28:37
  Speaker 14: back there.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: He recently asked the court for one hundred thousand dollars
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: advanced from the estate.
• 28:42
  Speaker 14: Well, his requests were ludicrous, they were insulting, and they
• 28:46
  Speaker 14: told you everything you need to know about the delusional
• 28:49
  Speaker 14: mentality he has right now. He first asked for a
• 28:52
  Speaker 14: nice car, he asks for money for supplemental insurance, and
• 28:56
  Speaker 14: then he actually had the audacity to ask the judge
• 28:59
  Speaker 14: for fifty dollars to get his.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Teeth fixed fifty thousand dollars.
• 29:03
  Speaker 14: His daughter Olivia, who was the primary beneficiary of her
• 29:06
  Speaker 14: mother's estates, hasn't received a penny yet. And this monster
• 29:10
  Speaker 14: wants fifty thousand.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Dollars to get his teeth fixed.
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: That's not gonna happen.
• 29:14
  Speaker 14: And that was a huge tactical mistake too, because what
• 29:17
  Speaker 14: happened during that request for one hundred thousand dollars is
• 29:20
  Speaker 14: that he took the stand, so that allowed me to
• 29:22
  Speaker 14: cross examiner. That's when he divulged that he had another
• 29:26
  Speaker 14: bank account overseas, and that was critically important because that
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: bank account wasn't previously disclosed in sworn Affid David's and
• 29:34
  Speaker 14: that's exactly what hasn't in hot Water.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Now, at the end of the day, how much of
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: this estate will you'll be able to get for your
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: client Olivia.
• 29:42
  Speaker 14: We're asking for all of it. We're asking for the
• 29:44
  Speaker 14: millions of dollars he has.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Drew Duffy, thank you for being with us here today.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, and we will of course keep you
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: updated on this civil trial as news breaks. Now here's
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: a look at what else is coming up later on
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: today's show.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Up Next, I can't find my daughter.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: It began with a desperate call for help to find
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: a missing girl, but the investigation quickly takes a tragic
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: turn with a twist no one saw coming coming up.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: She gets in.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Ohio, where family reports their five year old daughter is
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: missing from the restaurant they own. They tell cops they
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: put her down for a nap in the back office,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: and then suddenly she was gone. Here's Ana Garcia.
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: It looks like any other Chinese restaurant you'd see in
• 30:30
  Speaker 11: any town, USA. But Ang's Asian Cuisine in Jackson Township,
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: Ohio was Liang Xiao and Mingming Chen's piece of American pie.
• 30:42
  Speaker 11: Five year old Ashley was the youngest.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: She was simply adorable looking.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: I mean she was so cute, and you'd see.
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: Her in there playing with toys and coloring.
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: It seemed Liang and Mingming's American dream was coming true
• 30:58
  Speaker 11: until the moment came a nightmare.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: I can't find my daughter.
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: That's Leang telling the nine to one to one dispatcher.
• 31:08
  Speaker 11: Ashley vanished from the restaurant.
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: When the last time you've seen it, uh this afternoon,
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: probably around the time uh three, maybe four, Okay, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: you haven't seen her in five hours about yeah, I
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: mean she was there sleeping, and you know, did.
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: Ashley wander outside into the blizzard and get lost in
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: the snow covered woods? Was she just hiding somewhere inside
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: the restaurant or worse, did someone kidnap her.
• 31:44
  Speaker 15: We worked very hard on this case, and the one
• 31:46
  Speaker 15: thing we wanted at the end of the day was
• 31:49
  Speaker 15: uh to recover that girl alive.
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: Police mounted a statewide search, scouring the wooded areas near
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: the restaurant, using dogs, cherry pickers, even drones. They even
• 32:01
  Speaker 11: checked the families nearby apartment Where was Ashley. It wasn't
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: long before the question was answered.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Ashley was dead.
• 32:11
  Speaker 11: She was inside the restaurant all along.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Her five year old girl was taken from us like this.
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: It's not fear and now cop say her own mother
• 32:23
  Speaker 11: killed the child and her dad helped cover it up.
• 32:26
  Speaker 15: We searched the entire restaurant for a missing child. We
• 32:30
  Speaker 15: were thinking that she possibly had gone somewhere that the
• 32:34
  Speaker 15: parents just didn't know where to find her at within.
• 32:36
  Speaker 14: The restaurant, looking for a place where a child might
• 32:39
  Speaker 14: hid correct.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Not where someone would hide a child.
• 32:43
  Speaker 15: Absolutely.
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: Police arrested the couple. Ming Ming charged with murder and
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: felonious assault. Liang charged with complicity to murder and complicity
• 32:54
  Speaker 11: to commit felonious assault.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: This has really hit the community very hard.
• 33:00
  Speaker 11: The cops believe Mingming hit Ashley in the head with
• 33:03
  Speaker 11: her fists, killing her. Police aren't discussing a possible motive.
• 33:08
  Speaker 15: This investigation's not over. We're going to continue to look
• 33:11
  Speaker 15: at how this child was being raised, if there was
• 33:15
  Speaker 15: previous abuse to this child, and if there was previous abuse,
• 33:18
  Speaker 15: what kind of abuse was done to this child.
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: Leang and Mingming are locked up in the county jail,
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: bond set at five million dollars each. Mingming hasn't yet
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: entered a plea, but her husband has pleaded not guilty
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: and maintains his innocence. Ashley's six year old sister is
• 33:36
  Speaker 11: in the care of foster parents, a little girl who
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: lost her sister forever and most likely her parents, who
• 33:44
  Speaker 11: could face long prison sentences if they are convicted.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Up next meet the family with blue blood running through
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: their veins.
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: We try to be the best policeman we can be.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Crime Watch daily with the desiccos generations of crime fighters
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: protecting and serving the streets of Detroit.
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: We're fairly well known around the department as a police family.
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: The joke is that you can't go, you know, too
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: far without tripping over a DeCicco coming out.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: We travel the entire country, investigating all kinds of different
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: stories and oftentimes teaming up with the brave men and
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: women in law.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Enforcement who help keep us safe. Well.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Today, we've got a unique set of officers from my
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: home state of Michigan who are turning the badge into
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: a family business.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Here's Pat Lallama.
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: Each of these men are bonded in blue, dedicated protectors
• 34:42
  Speaker 10: on the tough streets of the motor city.
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: We try to be the best policeman we can.
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: Be, each of them sporting a prominent letter D on
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: their appropriately fit forearms.
• 34:54
  Speaker 9: We like to put out there that we are the Decicos.
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: The Decicos generation of die hard crime fighters. Through each
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: of those veins runs the same blood.
• 35:06
  Speaker 16: I became a police officer because my father in law
• 35:08
  Speaker 16: was in law enforcement. My brother in law also.
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: Was retired Sergeant Larry Desicico aka Dad, thirty five years
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: as a cop and the inspiration for not one, not two,
• 35:20
  Speaker 10: but three all struck young boys to follow in his
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: footsteps once.
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: Or twice, maybe more.
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: We all at some point was a policeman for Halloween
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: when were kids.
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: Yep, there was no real question about it. Kind of
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: knew right from the get go.
• 35:35
  Speaker 16: I didn't encourage any of them to join the police department,
• 35:38
  Speaker 16: but once they showed an interest, I did whatever I
• 35:40
  Speaker 16: could to make sure they got going in the right direction.
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: And the boys have done their father proud. At forty two,
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: Mike is the oldest.
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: The FBI came back with the.
• 35:51
  Speaker 10: Findings and holds the highest rank as Lieutenant. Bill is
• 35:57
  Speaker 10: thirty nine, a tactical warrior, having spent years with the
• 36:01
  Speaker 10: Special Response Team, the equivalent of SWAT. He's now a sergeant.
• 36:10
  Speaker 15: We're all black man.
• 36:12
  Speaker 10: Oh and he's also got twenty years as a marine
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: under his belt. And then there's the youngest, Max twenty seven,
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: a patrol officer.
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: To stop here is because when you turn right down
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: West Jefferson, you ruled that stop signer. There's never a
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: doubt that I'd do my absolute best to become a
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: Detroit police officer.
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: Nice The men take their job seriously, but off the
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: streets it's the typical brotherly razing Bella and Mike still
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: like ribbing. They're not so little. Baby brother.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: He still wears his versity coach.
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: Spent ten years, that's okay.
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: And when they do share stories of fighting the good
• 36:59
  Speaker 10: fight on the streets, older brother, Lieutenant Mike, revels in
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: pulling rank on both his younger siblings.
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: Once he gets done telling Billy what happened. Later on
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: they come and tell me what happened, and I can
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: tell them both what they did wrong.
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: Pretty much as the matriarch of a law enforcement family,
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: Debbie Desicco is about as proud and prepared for the
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: harsh and dangerous realities of police work as anyone could be.
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: Her dad, her brother, her husband, and three of her
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: sons wear the badge.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: She's pretty much got it. Don't pay it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 15: I know.
• 37:34
  Speaker 16: She still worries constantly though, too or mom.
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: At least she's got husband Larry home now that he's
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: hung up his gun after thirty five years of chasing
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: bad guys.
• 37:44
  Speaker 16: The older I got, the less I missed it because
• 37:47
  Speaker 16: I couldn't catch these kids out of high school jumping fences.
• 37:50
  Speaker 16: And I'm just kind of watching her shirt tails going well.
• 37:53
  Speaker 16: I could do a yack on the radio which way
• 37:54
  Speaker 16: he's going, and younger guys ybe on them a dog
• 38:00
  Speaker 16: in a rabbit.
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: The younger guys like his sons, may have the speed,
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: but Larry's got the wisdom of a lifetime on the force.
• 38:08
  Speaker 16: It's a group thing. It's not just a one person thing.
• 38:10
  Speaker 16: Nobody can just jump up and say, I guess on
• 38:13
  Speaker 16: my chest.
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: You know it's not it.
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: It's just really proud a feeling for me and for
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: my brothers to just know that he was so well
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: thought of, and it's it's pretty big shoes to Phil,
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: but we're trying.
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: There's a profound tradition at the Detroit Police Department. As
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: one deseca retires or gets promoted, the badge numbers are
• 38:34
  Speaker 10: passed down to the next in line.
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: When I got promoted through Tenant, I got my grandfather's
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: the tenant badge number L four. But I was able
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: to pass my dad's badge down to my brother Bill.
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: When Max graduated from the academy, his father pinned the
• 38:49
  Speaker 10: badge on Max's uniform.
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: I was beyond excited, not only just to be finally
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: a police officer, but just to carry on the you
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: know the name, the legacy of everything.
• 38:58
  Speaker 10: The Desico family grows by the year. Belle and Mike
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: have children, and there are nieces, nephews, grandchildren. The bigger
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: the family gets, the tighter they get, and it's safe
• 39:09
  Speaker 10: to say another Deseco will hear the call of duty,
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: one that cannot be ignored.
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: We're fairly well known around the department as a police family.
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: The joke is that you can't go, you know, too
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: far without tripping over a Decico.