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Construcción Plural - Programa 1151 · Construcción Plural - Radio Trend Topic

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  Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
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  season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts listen
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  to it on radio topic train, for example. You know how crazy the
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  uki is going. President, it was Argentina Nation, Dr Rabbiero Mirey good
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  chair hello everyone. There is no stabilization plan, not good, but the
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  delay to change. There' s a foreign exchange problem here. It is
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  impossible to achieve the zero deficit in the twenty- four thousand. Good.
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  It' s very little speck. Raya is a lot of Ecuador, but
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  you are not liberal. Taxes went up. What' s in the province?
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  No, but if I add one plus three hundred sixty- five times
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  and give me three sixty s I can' t dunia. If there'
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  s no video and there' s no one who invited me to I'
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  m fede your noodle cotuk. They want to know how the economy is going
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  to grow, it' s going to go up like a diver' s
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  fart, but there aren' t even anchored. Not good, because there
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  ' s no comprehensive plan. But you should set the path. This is
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  not a liberal government because it did not release the drug. Not because there
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  ' s a changed appreciation. I have a changing appreciation, but expensive freedom.
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  Not much of a piece, my friend, very, very good afternoon.
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  Here we are opening a new week of plural gem building to tell you
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  as every June. I must remember. The best month of the year came,
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  the journalist' s day. Next Friday seven is the birthday of my
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  big kitten, who is going to turn twenty- one. The twelfth day
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  is the day of the father. A madman also for one everything to be
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  and one is today and it' s my birthday. And that' s
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  the end of the month. So good a great month. I also have
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  a couple' s anniversary, so good a big month like June, just
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  for a little bit of a year out. Well, here we are in
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  a little while, we will be talking with Ignacio Lavaquí, the analyst,
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  the political consultant, and also in the second half we advance the usual participation
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  of Wednesdays of the Gustavos barrelly Walfanson to Tuesday today, because good were the
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  elections in Mexico. We already talked a lot to him in the previous one
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  and now we' re going to analyze it a little bit in the post.
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  There' s news that has to do with Mexico, with the United
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  States we' re also going to deal with Gustavo. Beyond the electoral issue,
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  Bden, the US President reduces access to asylum to launch a political message
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  against regular alignment. The country of Madrid says that the border with Mexico can
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  be closed if the crossings of people without papers exceed two thousand five hundred a
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  day for a week, as has happened in the last few days. So
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  limitations to the immigration pass and are legal on the border Mexico United States well
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  in terms of the national reality, as I say before saving a little bit,
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  how it connects to the chumalaba here and then you go barran the Volfinson.
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  I don' t know if there' s going to be time to
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  listen to Alejandro Rosman and his regulars for economic programs that don' t make
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  via the blues ou of thirty pesos. This is almost two and a half
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  points. It' s a thousand two sixty- five. It had dawned
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  strong. You know the operation starts around 11: 00 in the morning.
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  That average had risen strong already the first morning, the since eleven o'
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  clock. He counted with Lee, who had touched almost one thousand three hundred
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  thirty. If I' m wrong, it' s in a thousand three
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  hundred, which is almost unregarded. Yesterday, and he also went up with
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  the cone. It' s in a thousand two sixty- nine. The
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  free one is the lowest of all, but it rises thirty pesitos. And
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  what' s worrying is the five percent hike. This international funding for Argentina.
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  If one day he achieves it again in almost 1, 500, one
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  thousand four hundred and eighty- five, the risk country at this moment has
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  achieved the choir opposition and is debating the julatoria form, of aculatory mobility.
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  Obviously, if this is translated, the deputy is most likely, it will
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  be today to move to the Senate and with a majority here well, first
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  minority here, or, but smart that nerist. We will see with the
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  common interpretation what is Peronism, it is dominated by gennerism, journalism, it
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  is gennerism, who I encourage is Peronism. We' ll see this is
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  going to generate a law and that would generate the veto of my law that
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  so much about your body and said anything more expense. I' m good
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  at it. Costs are paid. No Christian Parnet also wore a retirement sum
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  at the time. Political costs are paid. I have to see to what
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  extent the different conditions in the dollar go up with the bonds ke and to
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  the country three in order to touch the 1, 500 points. If you
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  piss him off here averaging the afternoon for the show, the guy I don
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  ' t like in that sense, I can bench him to high consistency.
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  I don' t know if there' s transparency and I' m clear
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  about it, but it' s dedicated to the Jowe, the Reality and
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  it' s recording Boy not then and sympho in its second kilo code scandalous
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  jud audience between Grabois and it would work Leile Ayani for food. We'
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  re on the whole thing. He gives him food, government roles, allegations
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  of corruption, what there was, which he refused a lawless milay, desperate
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  to defend his spiritual advisor and perhaps something else that is petobel. A huge
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  queer woman is minister of one area and is minister of practically four areas.
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  This is not just human development, but also educational work and so on.
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  A caladrone and leaves people distorted. He recorded and depo Cuca thief because it
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  is coming from this girl, comes this one who is defending for everything to
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  petobelo everywhere, in the media, a better fact, in the addicted media,
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  to mileism, to the level of the liberals, because comes the maciism,
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  the quinnerism. Then Grabu threw Buca Thief at him and the other one
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  answered him. Stop torshan relaxing, she answered him, stop distorting people or
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  something. Eighty percent increase in the diet of national deputies. The ubo separate
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  three together, the ridicule what the deputies were swearing. For me too,
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  I believe that it is popular to tell you, as I said to you,
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  that the position has achieved a change of heart. It was also on
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  the edge of eleven o' clock and peak of the morning some soloists make
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  to force the debate on retirement mobility and over there, then I go this
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  way. With the present. I' m obviously saying what he' s
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  saying. I do not subscribe entirely, because everyone has their eyes, but
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  what has caught a poop, a little pepe not in that sense, Yes,
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  how has it gone up not this, how has it gone up to
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  poverty that my law is President. We' re at fifty- five percent,
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  we' re in a neteo no, because this man won with fifty
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  - six percent there by November. Well, if I' m not mistaken,
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  it' s been seven months. It is going to be ten next
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  Monday, six months of management millete, we make an interesting panorama of balance
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  in economic matters, at a crossing between Monteverde that is defended Millay and pegru
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  that criticized a lot. That was the last sign. I say fifty-
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  six percent took millay In for trash thirty first round fifty and say Marlotal is
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  not the president of the most vote in the history of his after Faye News,
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  because of course it is even taken in terms of people and of course
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  has grown how much the population grew that Perón was President, Bulli Goyen and
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  I were his seventy percent and would tell them more someone that I do not
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  like. Cristina Fernández took out fifty- four, not fifty- six.
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  He scored two points down, but he pulled it out in the first round.
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  No, no, with a good shot, Miley' s fifty-
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  six. This was going to mess with the fifty- six percent that Argentina
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  today has of the poor. Poverty was generated by law, no, no,
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  but it grew long. We are talking about twenty- five million people
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  and five million people added up these less than six months, a relevant data
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  from May of Millay management. Half the people think they have hope. Thirty
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  percent. They were very fanatical believers of what twenty- five expect. The
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  other half of it is the 50% less that it has support, doubt,
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  but it has hope. Okay. I think this sometimes nicono shows up
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  John puts us up tohores. That' s also not as long as we
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  ' re obstructing them, so that they have the adjustments or the Argentines,
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  after the debate and the disasters, generists and matrists, especially ignerists, want
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  to believe and good, but these adjustment plans and then in general end up
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  going wrong, as they come out in Argentina, as Milay says, the
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  adjustment and greatest of all humanity. Well, that' s not meritorious,
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  even if you see it like that and sell it like that. We are
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  in the throes of cruelty in this government of twigs. With these petoelles there
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  that everything is big. As I say, she is the spiritual advisor with
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  a thousand functions that does not give explanations. They don' t explain,
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  she didn' t leave an interview, they backed her around just as soon
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  as Miley came back on the road. Before embarking on a new journey.
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  She' s visiting, like someone ironed out on social media. My law
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  is visiting Buenos Aires for a few days, you' re playing with hunger.
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  Obviously if you already mind or the government, you lied with picket organizations,
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  with workers and others welcome, either on the one hand and on the
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  other you will be thrown away with everything, but then it is necessary that
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  you have a clean tail and make yourself a perfect management. Well, it
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  ' s not what happens neither the clean tail nor has a laudable management in
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  this human capital that will veil or human development, or whatever you want to
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  call it a president of the defense outrage with these empty ponches that first that
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  yes, that no, after they were for emergencies and then that was just
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  yerba and blah, blah, blah? How was the relat changing account of
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  someone who should, in a normal case, file his resignation. Let'
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  s talk. It is not another bullet that clearly enters a thousand letters,
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  the Gran Trck university march, perhaps also the issue of salary increases in executive
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  positions, in the executive branch. We' ll see, we' ll
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  see, and right now we' ll start analyzing it with Ignacio Lavaqui who
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  ' s gently already in the sum It' s online, Ignacio. Good
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  afternoon, Fernando Salutes, how you are hello, how you are, how
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  you are well, very well. Thank you for taking care of us first.
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  No, please, a good pleasure to see. There' s so
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  much to talk about. Let' s start from the outside. Let'
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  s say when we vote and vote so overwhelmingly for the successor of López Obrador,
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  the first woman President in Mexico, what we have to interpret that we
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  continue to vote a little anti- system, that we vote for the hand
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  of the state with a lot of subsidy, that it arrives, that we
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  vote for the left, that we are opposing a right, that is gaining
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  space with the ultra- right that I say there is just a lot of
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  heterogeneity in the vote, focusing a little on Latin America, I say in
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  the region rather or Central America. Downstairs, it seems to me that the
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  case of Mexico is quite particular. No, first, it does not position
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  him in an ultra- right position, nor anything the position in the establishment
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  prior to Andrés Manuel López Obrador. Not exactly were the party of the Democratic
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  Revolution there, which is a decision of the PRI. There was the PRI
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  and there was the PAN, which has historically been the traditional rival of the
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  PRI. Second, I think we need to look a little at the election
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  of two thousand eighteen, precisely Amlo, a traditional politician who started his career
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  in the PRI. From the PRI he went to the party of the Democratic
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  Revolution and when, during the Peña grandchild government to break the Democratic Revolution,
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  he signed an agreement on a series of public policies, together with the PAN
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  and with the PRI, the ruler decided to break and create the national regeneration
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  movement, not the Morena, and won in a overwhelming way. Two thousand
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  and eighteen. What Amlo did good. He basically appealed to populist tactics.
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  There is usually a confusion around outsider and populist can be used and said from
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  outside the established party system and not to be populist, and you can be
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  populist, pinning from the caste, to say in a way why am was
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  governor of Tabasco and was also mayor of Mexico City, not then and had
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  already been presidential candidate on two previous occasions, losing by very little margin in
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  front of Caldero one tea one almost settled a little that was stolen. He
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  did as an alternative government. What he installed, he lost by a very
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  scarce margin in front of the cloth. It' s not clear now.
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  The election of López Obrador was a tsunami, because I say he is the
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  first president since Mexico has free elections that wins with more than fifty percent of
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  the votes is taken to the party system that was structured around three parties until
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  then. The pri in the positional center. We could say no, because
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  it' s a center game. The PAN a little more to the right,
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  but not without being ultra- right, is a traditional conservative party and
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  the PRD is a democratic left center with some resabios of elements that had come
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  out of the cousin and is not wearing it. And in general, the
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  election of such leaders doesn' t matter if they come right by left,
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  it ends up giving rise to a reconfiguration of the party system. They are
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  the expression of a very strong discontent with the existing representation and motives. It
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  has gone a long way in Mexico for that, but at the same time
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  they leave the established party system in a sort of state and it seems to
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  me that this has been the case. Not then, traditional parties have failed
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  to recover. They had no innovative proposal on what was more than criticizing some
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  attempts to move forward on the institutions, particularly on the judiciary and on the
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  Council, of the National Electoral Institute. But then the amlo was in economic
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  terms, in the macro, very orthodox. That is why, in the
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  micro- economic sphere, not so much, and with a concentration of social
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  assistance in the Presidency. So I say Mexico didn' t have as a
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  staggering growth rate, but it did have a significant drop in the poor It
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  ' s the peak touched in the pandemic. And it seems to me that
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  this is a president who in a region where there are few presidents who maintain
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  high levels of popularity throughout the term. That was the case with Andrés Manuel
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  López. I' m not trying to put on a woman figure of indigenous
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  origin, but they continue. Most of all, it' s a post
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  pandemic. The cost of sometimes locking up satisfaction with social and other measures to
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  fight, to unite, to confront the pandemic, which is to create,
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  is not paid. Officialisms have lost. This is not the case with Mexico.
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  To see the anti- official obla started before the pandemic, so between
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  April of two thousand nineteen in the election of Mario Abdo Benítez in Paraguay and
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  open last year with the election of Santiago Peña, also in Paraguay. All
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  the officialisms in democratic texts, that' s always important to highlight lost them.
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  We' re talking about memories. I think it' s sixteen presidential
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  elections. Basically there' s more, but they all lost. The first
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  to cut the streak was to ship it illegally, I understand because I was
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  not allowed to go for a new mandate. Re- election is prohibited under
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  the Constitution. Even the Mochican didn' t get the right to re-
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  election in the same way Fujimori did at the time, Ortega at the time,
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  or the same moral evo, forcing it through a court ruling and then
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  Avinader does in the Dominican Republic a few weeks ago, not on May 18th,
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  which would indicate that the anti- government wave may be running out.
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  We don' t know, but I think that if there was a choice
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  that you thought you were singing, that you were going to cut off a
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  streak of official defeats, it was for me the one of the most Mexico
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  that preceded this. Which was Mexico chooses state governors in a sautéed manner.
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  Not necessarily all coincide with last year' s presidential election or elections in the
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  State of Mexico, which is the equivalent of our province of Buenos Aires,
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  and won the Morena. In history it had been close in the year two
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  thousand seventeen by a margin smaller than expected, something that some analysts confused a
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  little bit. It was the election of Coahuila, where he won the opposition
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  to amlo retained power. But I say the State of Mexico is the most
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  populous state of the thirty- two Mexican states and I think the signal that
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  the Morena won was quite eloquent. There was no doubt Now the truffle was
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  even more soldier than expected. Even in Congress you may have more special degrees
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  with allies in both chambers of the two- thirds you said amlo appealed to
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  populist tradition. Let' s say what' s a little key to explaining.
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  I think you' re going to share, because, well, if
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  I don' t correct this devastating triumph, let' s say the candidate
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  ' s talking in a hamblo that' s going to theoretically pass a little
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  winter barracks. Well, let' s see if he' s going to
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  go to winter barracks in Mexico in the decade of tradition. Well, sure,
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  the tradition with the PRI is that yes, but of course, this
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  is not the first more Yes to see in the origins of the PRI.
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  It is very common to say that in Mexico there has never been re-
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  election from the Revolution onwards and that is not really so. One of the
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  revolting presidents of the Revolution,Álvaro Obregón, realigned with a mandate in between.
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  What year are we talking about? We' re talking in a thousand
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  nines twenty- eight and he was killed a little before he assumed. After
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  Obregón, Yes, after Obregón, there were six years that are known as
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  the maximate years, where there were weak presidents. There were three presidents,
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  in fact, and there was Plutarco Elias Calle, not who led the power
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  of the shadows. He appointed his how he chose whoever was most in the
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  rock thirty- four charge and the Cercanas sent him into exile very quickly.
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  Not then should we see to whom the governors and deputies and senators of the
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  Morena are to be loved or shan On. No. I' m not
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  planning to have a conflict, but I' m saying if there' s
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  a tradition that in the PRI there' s no re- election and when
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  in the PRI' s time as a hegemonic party, there was no re
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  - election for any elective office. No, now there' s re-
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  election for anger charges. And that' s how that management between Claudia and
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  Andres is going to be. Manuel. Andres Manuel and Claudius, let us
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  say that then you doubt that he will withdraw altogether as he has said,
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  for he has repeated it yesterday and so on. Not in politics, no
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  one is to be played until the day he dies. Not good, but
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  Mexico has. But we are talking about the particular case of Mexico, which
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  you have far more knowledge than I do. No doubt, for everyone you
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  ' re commenting on. But I mean, there' s the prio system,
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  there' s the idea that I' m saying the thing that'
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  s loathsome or has now sold. We put it, obviously, to see
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  in Duet. I want to hear you. Your opinion is that he grabs
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  the suitcase and disappears. Let' s say that, you put it clearly.
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  In doubt. Let' s say raw. What President Saliente wouldn'
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  t say that. Not good, but we have the particular renter from Mexico.
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  I didn' t understand Kindico that he was going to be for a
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  literary coffee, he was out on the road and the PS. I'
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  m talking about Mexico, where with the first thing that I know to see
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  me, it makes history and very well. But I say, in the
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  last fifty years, with the prisoner passed the outgoing President, choose your restorga
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  wins, but yes, it does go and nothing an opinion, or anything
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  north. But let us take the case of the last twenty years, not
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  of democratic Mexico, Felipe Calderón, which is no longer part of the PAN
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  today. He wanted to keep saying about Mexican politics. His wife was a
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  presidential candidate, Margarita Zavala. This one was expelled from the PAN. Not
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  said by the way, then it is not that a figure with as am
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  what goes with eighty percent of the votes is not necessarily going to retire.
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  I' d say we' ll have to see if if they' re
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  four votes in the Senate to have a majority to reform the Constitution. If
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  they don' t change the Constitution and re- election is not indefinite.
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  But if with an interval I talk and you can go back, you know
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  a lot more than I do. Retro amlo could be re- introduced in
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  six years, or it has no dice today. It' s a single
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  mandate. There is no single mandate, nothing more very restrictive inheritance of the
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  revolution is now well. One before, one even post- revolution, I
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  say, the Mexican reution was made for that, not to stop the indefinite
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  re- election of Don Porfirio Díaz Este. But I say, even after
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  the 17th Constitution there was a President who managed to return to power, he
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  was killed and then in the prigo a rotation agreement. Well, the PRI
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  era as a hegemonic party is over. The PRI. I' d say
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  he' s pretty liquidated. Let us hope that he will be reborn from
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  his ashes, but I say, it depends a lot on amlo I say
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  you can always, for example, Correa left and left him with a political
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  commissioner. In Mexico different, we don' t have the Vice President elected,
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  which is a problem in many countries, in many regimes If I don
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  ' t say it, I did the theory of that that Juan Links said,
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  a well- known political scientist. But I say playing Correa and not
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  having Vice President is a problem, that is, not having Vice President and
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  will dignify for the history of the VI because of the conflicts. I say
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  the story here, but I can think of it in case of complicative vice
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  president, the vice president elected by popular vote on the presidential iron, can
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  come up with a program for conflicts. Trainee and others look at what is
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  happening in Ecuador now between Abbot and Daniel Noboa. Then I say that in
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  Mexico is not there. But I say for Rea that he had left a
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  political commissioner as Vice President and that led to a conflict with Lenin Moreno.
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  Correa could have aspired to return. Yes, and Lady Moreno introduced a custidional
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  reform so she can' t come back. Besides that, because Rea has
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  quite a lot of problems with Ecuadorian justice. Not today, I mean,
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  he can' t physically return to Ecuador. Then I' d say when
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  someone has two- thirds in Congress or is close to tanning them, I
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  wouldn' t underestimate anything. I can say that it can be reformed,
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  it should not even be ruled out. Let' s put it into potential.
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  It is not crazy that Amlo should be reformed so that he can return
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  within six or twelve years, given Amlo' s age. I' d
• 22:53
  say six. Okay, well, in that case Claudia would have to give
• 22:57
  in and prove herself to be a Delfinda, no, because I say it
• 23:03
  has to be indefinite re- election. She has that non- consecutive re
• 23:06
  - election, that is, she raises work, she could not have the
• 23:11
  consecutive impression, p and then let one pass, as in Argentinas or Chile,
• 23:15
  a mandate. That mandate yes, ok ok well, well, I
• 23:22
  bring you a little interesting, a little more earthly and closer to Argentina.
• 23:27
  How you' d plot this situation. Nearly six months after Millay' s
• 23:32
  next Monday in office, some bullets begin to enter, one we saw with
• 23:36
  the march, but the supermassive university with this food issue. This is what
• 23:45
  people look like, or it' s the media that we' re in
• 23:48
  this and it gets to the ordinary citizen who sees that there can be inefficiency
• 23:52
  in management, corruption, etcetera, etcetera. I think if you hit the
• 23:57
  government, we' ll see in this month' s polls not what it
• 24:02
  was until May. Different measurements which show rather than my law, thanks to
• 24:07
  the issue of low inflation, remained high in some had a marginal broth.
• 24:14
  I think of the spop that in suudedness or if I look at the confidence
• 24:18
  index, the government bounces off this would even add improvements. For example,
• 24:23
  in the index the consumer who makes polyrchi publishes ditela. Not then. So
• 24:30
  far Miler has a lot of his second- round voters, but what'
• 24:36
  s your intuition about this in number of specialist separates so you don' t
• 24:40
  think it' s possible. What happens is that the issue is who capitalizes
• 24:41
  on this. Not then If you think about the fifty- six percent who
• 24:47
  voted for my law in the second round, you would say turn your head
• 24:52
  and say it' s okay. I' m disappointed. Where I'
• 24:56
  m going, to Cristina Kishner, Masa and Kislov I don' t think
• 25:04
  so, to Luton neither. For now it does not seem then to see
• 25:10
  the data of a survey that we did with Ani to go to the end
• 25:14
  of April beginning of May. What they showed was that I say if you
• 25:18
  ask people who they' re going to vote for next year, the candidate,
• 25:19
  the candidates of my law or the candidates to be put to my law.
• 25:25
  Thirty- three percent responded to candidates who put on Miley when you look
• 25:26
  at who has a good image of inside that thirty- three percent fish tank
• 25:30
  not Cristina k if it rains mass or is a hard core of Peronist vote,
• 25:40
  where is the biggest opposition within public opinion. My law in the Amba
• 25:48
  so logical, no, it is the area that suffers the most from adjustment.
• 25:53
  Sure, then where is it? So I think the demand for opposition
• 25:59
  exists, which is not very ordered from the supply and then I go back
• 26:04
  a second to Mexico. The election of a leader like Miley is no different
• 26:07
  than the election of a leader like Amlo. As much as Miles has been
• 26:11
  to someone who came out practically out of nowhere and in two years he came
• 26:14
  to the Presidency and Amlo was someone who had a long political trajectory. The
• 26:18
  populist method remains the same. Divide the field in two to say that,
• 26:22
  on one side is lelit and on the other side is the people and that
• 26:25
  they have betrayed the people. And that in general is the reflection of a
• 26:30
  crisis of party representation, product of several governments, of a different sign that
• 26:36
  leave a balance of discontent and that then appear these so- called messiahs that
• 26:45
  with this discourse it just starts up there is a context that previews that makes
• 26:48
  the discourse pledge and when they are elected, that usually results in a greater
• 26:56
  exacerbation of the crisis of representation existing. Then let' s look at what
• 27:00
  ' s going on inside the pro. The pro is split, not where
• 27:03
  the stage goes to one side. The exit of the gents is on the
• 27:06
  one hand. But I' m not so convinced that the votes are going
• 27:10
  to accompany that leadership that wants to say that good people share economics, but
• 27:14
  that they want republicanism, etcetera, etcetera. In radicalism we see tensions and
• 27:21
  say that the voter of the pro goes, as in the Ballots, will
• 27:23
  go today, because I would do my law to see if I make a
• 27:29
  comparison between voters of Patricia Bulritz about who has the best image today, if
• 27:37
  Patricia Milay or Macry Macrot finishes third. And in radicalism, I think there
• 27:45
  ' s something that graphs it very well. The day the repeal of the
• 27:49
  decree had to be voted on, it was urgent. On the seventy-
• 27:55
  three, President Luce bounced aside a couple of senators and the bulk of the
• 28:00
  bloc voted in favour of ratification. No yes, and in Peronism it seems
• 28:06
  to me that this is happening. But sotoboche perionism has a virtue. He
• 28:10
  ' s known how to maintain unity. Yes, today Peronism, is the
• 28:14
  quisnerism that if you can lead them and renew them and remodel, leave Cristina
• 28:21
  behind without facing it. Let' s say, as it is always said,
• 28:25
  also that a government that its popularity is renewed, although it seems that
• 28:27
  it would have been years of erasing, but it will be six months old.
• 28:30
  But I say it' s the opposition, after a very hard blow
• 28:33
  and especially with Stausiyder, it' s going to regenerate, it' s
• 28:37
  going to start pulling its head out when the government does bad, when the
• 28:41
  unpopularity or a certain greater impoglanity comes in than it rules, let' s
• 28:48
  say, or when you have ex how or when Gobin succeeds, not good,
• 28:49
  but there the position will not bear fruit. I say that the octoposition
• 28:52
  has a frightening chance, because precisely we are thinking about what happened in the
• 28:56
  1990s I would not say good, men in religion, no, but until
• 29:00
  it was consolidated stability, the agenda could not be opened, other issues were
• 29:06
  not opened at the time that stability, which was conquered the issues of a
• 29:11
  long time. Well, he had a lot of time to achieve that as
• 29:15
  well as hegemony, no. But I say what I' m going to
• 29:19
  is failure. Yeah, you have to see who benefits, if it benefits
• 29:23
  the same thing as always. If we enter one more circle to the Peruvian,
• 29:26
  visual circle, no, no, no well, that part of the
• 29:29
  discussion, or what I was asking you to say if this Peronism can regenerate
• 29:33
  with up to how much, in quotation marks a new vizilfo can appear emerging
• 29:38
  even facing postkisnerism, because one, effectively sees difficult that sees difficult. Let
• 29:41
  ' s say the opposition where it can get on track or be moderately attractive
• 29:48
  again with everything we talk about radicalism and that the property over. Well,
• 29:52
  you' d have to see what opposition there is. No, because Peronism
• 29:53
  and Peronism itself is one thing. I believe the Peronism of the interior is
• 29:59
  not the only thing that is not the Peronism of the center of the country
• 30:03
  that the Peronism of the Patagonia of the Noa or the Peronism of the province
• 30:08
  of Buenos Aires. But if you' re trying to make alliances, take
• 30:11
  the picture with Nacho Torre, with Thumbing, that is, posing, as
• 30:17
  we' re potentially flying legitimate. But I say something different, something open,
• 30:19
  something front, etcetera, something kind of people, etcetera, etcetera.
• 30:22
  But that' s, that' s gathering leaders for the photo I'
• 30:29
  m not sure that those votes together, or that he' s a potant,
• 30:34
  someone who votes against him who doesn' t like my law like that,
• 30:41
  doesn' t like quislerism, not like that or public policy. Why
• 30:42
  would I vote for Kizilov? I say because he gets together and takes a
• 30:48
  photo with Puyar and a h of Nacho Torres, and that' s how
• 30:55
  he articulates down in the territory. No, because there' s the problem
• 30:56
  that people, for those who are with those in the province of Chubut or
• 31:02
  in the province of Santa Fe, how they do for, for example,
• 31:06
  well, Santa Fe doesn' t have re- election, but Chubut does.
• 31:08
  When light years come, we' re talking. Not the public policies
• 31:12
  that Puyaro and Nacho Thors support are the same as those that they support here.
• 31:18
  I am not talking about economics, for example in the area of security.
• 31:22
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect. I think it is a good
• 31:26
  thing that there is a picture and that there is dialogue, because there is
• 31:32
  politics. Yes, he' s an enemy friend, I prefer the word
• 31:37
  rival, but I say competitor, but because something the enemy is a war.
• 31:45
  Yeah, but I think it' s normal that I' ve already
• 31:49
  said something between governors and I know a picture. Now that that' s
• 31:52
  what we' re looking for in votes, especially in public policies, in
• 31:56
  a public policy agent, because if we don' t see the example of
• 32:05
  Mexico, the question of leaders it led to didn' t have much impact
• 32:12
  to put together the PRD labels of the prior for you to Miley beyond the
• 32:17
  disruptive you see it as someone different you see it as not part of politics
• 32:22
  or this pragmatic millay in recent months you prepare parliaments, guillermos, francos,
• 32:27
  ministers, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. A story repeated. Some
• 32:30
  link this process with that of Martínez Dios for putting a hate case, or
• 32:35
  you can think that my law ends up being more of the same. I
• 32:39
  don' t think I looked at being different in Argentine politics. You would
• 32:43
  not link him to any point of view Martínez Dios, for the fifth reason
• 32:45
  that Martínez Dios was the Minister of Economy of several authoritarian governments. No,
• 32:52
  but as far as politics is concerned, in a few economic plans and the
• 32:55
  same thing they said about horse at the time, don' t say milate
• 33:01
  isn' t there. If I return Martinez God during the Martínez period.
• 33:06
  There was a phenomenal process of indebtedness of Argentina from the private sector that was
• 33:10
  later also the public sector, but the private sector that was later liquefied and
• 33:15
  with a history that we already know. So I think that history debt because
• 33:21
  you can' t, basically it' s not. I don' t
• 33:23
  know if I would look at you, but I say we should see the
• 33:30
  Martinez results. He spent four years at the head of the Ministry of Economy,
• 33:32
  but I don' t think that' s comparable to any of this
• 33:37
  government. Yeah, obviously, one can say good. There are people within
• 33:39
  the government, my law that makes a claim of figures of the dictatorship and
• 33:44
  everything you want, but I don' t think it' s comparable.
• 33:46
  Ah, but economics, a financial model of everything touches point down, they
• 33:52
  cut full of economists that has to do with finance, not with the productive.
• 33:54
  From the same country we mentioned Ramiro Marra or so many others. It
• 33:59
  ' s all a lot of snooping. Yes, indeed, there are a
• 34:02
  lot of finance people. But I say for the Martínez Dios case we came
• 34:07
  to that world, it came no more from the world of the real economy,
• 34:15
  more linked to if you want to or to the Argentine rural city or
• 34:20
  to the company in the past riglo electricity. Then I don' t think
• 34:28
  I' d go for a comparison with Martinez God. I' ve seen
• 34:30
  her at other times, too. It' s like a little horse always
• 34:34
  comparing any government in sight with Martinez de Dios. I think it' s
• 34:37
  better to handle criticism. On the other hand, but I believe that in
• 34:39
  a thousand is a typical case that we have already seen in Argentina, in
• 34:45
  other Latin American countries also of the political populist leader, but with economy we
• 34:52
  will put it promarket. I believe in Miley is more anti- state than
• 34:57
  pro- market, but good. But let' s see the classic neo
• 35:00
  liberalism label. It' s not very different from what Bolsonaro was with Paulo
• 35:07
  Guedes. Nothing more than Mira could be the two people together for being populist
• 35:10
  leader and at the same time the liberal economist. To what I may have
• 35:15
  been the alliance between Fujimori and liberal economists. For Fujimori he was an authoritarian
• 35:21
  leader rather than a coup State. But I say it' s not new
• 35:28
  to see this board between pro- state economic policy and this populism. It
• 35:36
  ' s more like something that' s quite studied. It' s from
• 35:38
  the' 90s. What is different that Argentina had been quite immune to the
• 35:44
  case of the populist outsider. I didn' t go to pop. Yes,
• 35:47
  because I believe that both Menem in style, will campaign, especially the
• 35:51
  first election and especially Cristina Fernández Kigner were cases of populism in political terms.
• 35:59
  It is not leadership that has a pleistic bond its followers, in the case
• 36:02
  of Christian, especially that it has a refoundational mandate. I think that makes
• 36:08
  it more like Cristina. My law we hadn' t seen before. But
• 36:14
  not the outsider, the outsider who falls as a paratrooper for the Presidency.
• 36:20
  Not because one thinks good macria some ive findsiger, like all those who once
• 36:22
  dedicated themselves to politics, one day they dedicated something else and discrimination, but
• 36:27
  macrison a more own political career. If one wants from the left in Latin
• 36:30
  America, which is to build territorial power, first follow the pig and arrive
• 36:36
  and law landed as paratroopers. It came from nothing, not from the plain,
• 36:40
  but from the House of Deputies to the Presidency. That' s the
• 36:47
  novel thing and in a system that, in theory, has several antibodies for
• 36:51
  that, because the choice of Argentina is a choice that with primaris is a
• 36:53
  three- round lesson. Several campaigns must be financed, but the collapse of
• 37:00
  the previous Government and the fact that three administrations followed that ended worse than they
• 37:07
  started, prepared the ground for this to happen. Sure. In conclusion you
• 37:14
  see it as with its solid popularity, I do not know how to see
• 37:20
  this issue of foods that I have. We are in these hours that we
• 37:22
  will see how much your very closed defense of the Minister petovelo expands nothing the
• 37:29
  change of some break in the markets or even if the inflation stabilizes by four
• 37:32
  or five, but that it takes the leap in some month. I do
• 37:35
  not say any major setback, but I say the limits also a little bit
• 37:40
  of the model may have a relatively significant popular loss. I take it we
• 37:44
  ' re half and half not, but, well, let' s just
• 37:46
  say. I don' t believe in that answer they give you fifty-
• 37:47
  eight. Fifty- eight. Definitely not from Jeacobe or Gustavo Córdoba who gives
• 37:52
  him I don' t know forty- five. It seems to me little,
• 37:55
  but well, on the other hand, not to make names for them
• 38:00
  says no soras. I already do, I already speak the names go from
• 38:01
  yours, that are mine no matter what for us we see that as the
• 38:05
  extremes and let' s say that that marks the minimum and the maximum of
• 38:07
  the range. It' s not right. Yeah, yeah, not one
• 38:10
  thing or the other, or that half goes less. Let' s say
• 38:15
  we put it this way. But I think the interesting point is this,
• 38:17
  which is that popularity fluctuates. Yes, and as a resource of power,
• 38:27
  it' s a double- edged weapon. Yes, because one day you
• 38:30
  put in a gobir This is a government very tied to public opinion, obviously
• 38:31
  because of all the institutional weakness that we already know, so, at least
• 38:36
  until October next year, I say, it is a very vulnerable situation,
• 38:43
  because I say, it is clear that there must be twenty- five to
• 38:47
  thirty percent of the electorate that loyal to Miley here licanto yes. That'
• 38:55
  s just what I think it' s not enough. Here it goes through
• 39:00
  the institutional, having what is called the legislative shield, which is a third
• 39:05
  of a House. Why a third party in a Chamber. Because with one
• 39:07
  third of a House one holds back an insistence on a legislative veto and with
• 39:14
  one third a House, one holds back something much more relevant, which is
• 39:19
  a request for political judgment or one of the two chambers or water. The
• 39:22
  objective is clear, the Pollio trial continues in the House of Deputies. The
• 39:27
  legislative insistence has to be the two chambers, by two thirds of those present.
• 39:31
  With a third one slows down on that. Mile is close to the
• 39:35
  third with the pro is close to the third, but I can' t
• 39:37
  reach him. If I had a majority House I would have the yes,
• 39:45
  the absolute majority in a single Chamber. Already with that it would reach him
• 39:47
  to erase by emergency decrees except four tax issues, penal in law of political
• 39:52
  parties and electoral laws, that would make the difference, not that it could
• 39:59
  be credited, in fact, on all issues, except this four. And
• 40:01
  that with that a House bequeaths that if until so long Congress did not modify
• 40:06
  the current regulation of neuque did Cristina for something she did and the senator to
• 40:09
  her husband was the President. If Congress modifies it and says well, for
• 40:15
  one neuque to stand, the two cameras have to say yes in a peremptory
• 40:17
  term, well. There' s another song. But for now, with
• 40:22
  this regulation of neu similate. He had a House except for those four issues,
• 40:29
  he can rule by derogatory urgency. But that is what you are talking
• 40:32
  about now in terms of governance or as an objective after the legislative ones will
• 40:37
  be committed to bribability, because a minority government could also between bribability. Logic
• 40:42
  or the simplest way, and I think what we see with the basic law
• 40:45
  shows it is the simplest way to form a coalition, a collision that gives
• 40:50
  you a majority, so he hasn' t wanted it. So you want
• 40:53
  to go by law by law, by law, by time and resources and
• 41:01
  here we are seven months. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I mean
• 41:07
  in that sense, you were saying very vulnerable situations. I don' t
• 41:12
  know what we call the situation or if you can specify a little more.
• 41:15
  It' s clear you do. Take a non- comparative example of someone
• 41:22
  who followed the same formula of governance melo color in Brazil thirty years ago.
• 41:28
  Then one is very vulnerable. There was a very good phrase by Gemingway about
• 41:34
  a character in the novel Fiesta. They ask you and you how you went
• 41:37
  bankrupt in two ways, first bit by bit and then quickly, then suddenly
• 41:42
  not. Then how you lose popularity. Well, first it gives little and
• 41:46
  then it can be lost suddenly no. Many governments have lost it quickly in
• 41:50
  Latin America. Petro is an example. But how could family happen, how
• 41:54
  could this happen to Millay Ignacio? Yeah, we say there' s your
• 42:00
  biggest handicap part of your big capitals has an opposition in fol Let' s
• 42:02
  call it ideas, put pungent porma. There are countries where all politics is
• 42:07
  unpopular. I say wrongly that it generates rejection to me that does not imply
• 42:15
  that I have to generate mengano approval. In Peru all politics is highly unpopular,
• 42:21
  which opens up spaces for good events such as the election of Pedro Castillote,
• 42:30
  who with nineteen percent of the votes, ended up in the second round
• 42:34
  winning a balotaj between someone who takes out nineteen percent and thirteen percent. There
• 42:37
  is a long way to go for Argentina' s presidential election, but I
• 42:43
  say popularity can plummet. I believe that much of the President' s ability
• 42:45
  is communication policy, which did not sell little goldfish hope the day it is
• 42:52
  a medium. He said blood, sweat and tears are coming. If you
• 42:57
  don' t take drastic measures, worse things are going to happen. And
• 43:01
  with that and I think the context also gave him an advantage. The crisis
• 43:05
  exposed Macrin had that advantage. All those people who criticize him for macriple not
• 43:10
  being honest with the inheritance. I think they say stupid things. I don
• 43:13
  ' t have a problem saying it like that and a little brutal. I
• 43:15
  think they say stupid things. It is because if I perceive that the situation,
• 43:20
  as it would go to Guido Casca, is wrong, but it is
• 43:22
  wrong if I am told this is dramatic. I' m not creating it.
• 43:25
  And that it' s dramatic and it needs drastic measures, I don
• 43:29
  ' t believe it. And on two thousand and fifteen December, two thousand
• 43:30
  and fifteen, you didn' t see that. One can say good.
• 43:34
  The one I knew said good here. There are several problems, several bombs.
• 43:37
  Let' s get him to deactivate them. It' s complicated,
• 43:40
  and someone said," Well, it' s better not to be honest
• 43:43
  with the inheritance" If you' d been honest with him, nothing would
• 43:45
  have changed the day you arrived at the tariff adjustments. In that context it
• 43:50
  would have been a bucket of cold water the same. Okay, here.
• 43:52
  They prepared the ground and I think there was some awareness of some things.
• 43:57
  And I' m fed up with the above. Not then that sale and
• 44:01
  I get fed up with the harshness of the just. Now how can you
• 44:06
  play patience in expectation. Well, the question of the millions is what the
• 44:12
  limit is, but, well, I don' t think anyone' s
• 44:17
  going through anything to see it Let' s just assume that I' m
• 44:23
  telling you that the gas increased me four times or you say impressive. Not
• 44:23
  what, just like I told you I was paying two thousand five hundred pesos
• 44:27
  and I went on to pay ten zero going in one yes, that is,
• 44:34
  in the highest residential. I think a person might go to a neighborhood
• 44:39
  pizzeria and have a beer and spend more than a thousand pesos a big pizza
• 44:44
  is fine someone very hungry. So, in that case, obviously high-
• 44:52
  income household levels. I' m telling you the worker who paid, that
• 44:57
  we agree with one of the great mistakes that we hurt for all matters of
• 45:00
  public service. The disaster subsides the expensive pool that lives in Martinez and has
• 45:02
  the heated pool. But the worker who used to pay chauch and sticks in
• 45:07
  transport, what represents him is to travel today add to that yes, in
• 45:13
  light, gas, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. A MEDIA class or BS
• 45:17
  one that is in this session, but the preparation that I paid for I
• 45:22
  don' t know a fifth and now I say let' s add up
• 45:24
  situations. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 45:27
  no, no, no, no, no, no. It' s
• 45:29
  not very recent data. That' s data we did with Annie Parray Rendinamis
• 45:36
  in late April. But that' s what Namis Dinamis is called. Well,
• 45:43
  that' s where it was. We basically ask him how long he
• 45:47
  is willing to wait until economic policy is successful. Yeah, well, there
• 45:52
  ' s twenty- six percent that says he' s not gonna expect anything.
• 45:55
  Yes, it doesn' t It' s not about what happens to
• 45:59
  Miley enton of the Universe, not the whole Universe. Ok ok we already
• 46:02
  know one look and cross fact with whom they voted. I think there'
• 46:08
  s 20 percent that says three to six months later. Yeah, yeah,
• 46:14
  there' s, like, 23 for two. The insistence pardons, the
• 46:17
  existence of the interruption since you did the survey, since from the government to
• 46:21
  my law all three or not. This is it. The survey was last
• 46:23
  month, but it' s three or six more months, let' s
• 46:28
  say no, since it took off in December. No. No, three
• 46:29
  or six more months. It' s okay, okay, okay, sorry.
• 46:31
  If others say one or two years and there is one there is twenty
• 46:37
  - three percent that group it. No, why to simplify what this one
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  says with his martiso the presidential term or what it takes? What you need
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  will be four or five points. The Po poundsa no yes, yes,
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  there you see the hard core. To me what I think is remarkable is
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  that about half the population is between one and two years and the whole mandate.
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  This can change. Or I think it' s enough. I don
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  ' t think it' s hard for you. I don' t think
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  so much, because it' s theoretically said. Then we saw him.
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  That' s the perception of the moment, or of course, of course
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  now. I think we have to take it this way. The President doesn
• 47:13
  ' t like to talk about Moses very much. We have to go to
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  the Bible. What the Bible says about Moses, that Moses freed the Jews
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  from Egypt, what happened next. The Bible speaks of forty pre- angel
• 47:27
  years of truth. We know that it was forty years for us if it
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  is reason that people barely lived forty years, I didn' t see twenty
• 47:31
  - five was much. I think they' ve been in the desert for
• 47:35
  a long time. I don' t know if it' s historical or
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  if it' s simply a story, but the point is that at several
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  moments in the Bible it' s read that the Jews said well, we
• 47:45
  were better in slavery with the Egyptites. The Egyptians and Moses, with the
• 47:49
  help of the force of the sky, beat his staff and drew water from
• 47:53
  the rock. The presidential cane doesn' t do that kind of magic.
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  No, I mean what I mean by this. Probably if you' re
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  told we' re gonna be four years of sweaty blood and tears. Or
• 48:05
  Avellaneda' s phrase about Argentina' s credit. You even have to pay
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  for the hunger and make the Argentines. It was very good for the vellaneda
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  times that I voted, if I voted and with which I put I voted
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  one percent of the population not this one. But I say there is something
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  we call the honeymoon and with good communication one can take advantage of it more.
• 48:27
  I didn' t know how to take advantage of it, too.
• 48:29
  But I say Macrino lost by adjusting the rates, because he had adjusted them
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  and won and won the five main provinces of legislative election. He lost the
• 48:37
  election. In any case, because when it seemed that the worst had already
• 48:40
  happened, it returned the worst with the volatility would change from this April,
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  which started in April of two thousand eighteen and that did not end until the
• 48:50
  end of his term. No and that and that led him to be back
• 48:52
  inside the FM and so on. Not then, for now, based on
• 49:00
  political narrative of frustration towards others, the thing endures how long it will endure.
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  Well, I' d say you have to look at three things.
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  One. The expectation of the arrival of the promised land is not eternal.
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  Not if your bow' s running all the time. That' s like
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  the donkeys who put the carrot up front so they keep walking. I think
• 49:21
  there' s going to be at some point, there' s going to
• 49:24
  be some of the public opinion that you' re supporting today, which you
• 49:28
  ' re going to say no. I don' t like it. No.
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  I don' t support anymore, I don' t have anywhere to
• 49:35
  go, maybe, but I say we have to go monitoring. The Government
• 49:37
  is also not insensitive. It' s not not silly, not because I
• 49:39
  say don' t introduce you s clearly puts justs realize that bets all the
• 49:46
  time realize that there is a certain political sensitivity, how much you can pull
• 49:52
  the priora has told her my law has said forgive me Ignacio. We lost
• 49:55
  the most to the pedicusual and all good wing the framework of cruelty, but
• 49:59
  I say to not let go a little bit. He puts the photo that
• 50:02
  warned him in quotation marks, an admission, but he has manifested it,
• 50:07
  not explicit. Then the government knows these things, I mean, they have,
• 50:13
  they have polls, they see it and then they will know how to
• 50:17
  manage it not now. I' m not saying that this is a guarantee
• 50:20
  of success, since when one fills one' s mouth with the caste and
• 50:27
  suddenly something shows that one is caste just like the rest and maybe there'
• 50:35
  s a missile in the flotation line going in and when they build up.
• 50:39
  I' d say the damage starts to feel. I do not say then
• 50:46
  that we must be very attentive this month, especially when we are going to
• 50:51
  feel the issue of, for example, the weak gas administration. Clearly,
• 50:54
  the subject of Petohlo always the incoming government is a bit like the joke of
• 51:00
  two letters. Not that an outgoing official leaves him a successor and tells him
• 51:04
  how many two letters and you say when he has the first problem. Now
• 51:07
  the first letter passes the months. The first problem is the guy in the
• 51:10
  letter that says the letter blames me. He blames me. If the months
• 51:15
  pass the second problem comes. Open the second letter and it says write two
• 51:19
  letters sorry and no longer you told me to look at three things. The
• 51:24
  expectation of arrival that I am taking a promised land public opinion, governance towards
• 51:30
  Congress and market reaction. If those three vertices align well, the market looks
• 51:37
  basically or focuses. I believe in the market is not a unified actor,
• 51:43
  but what it focuses on if it looks and fulfills the super habeit theme and
• 51:47
  fulfills the accumulation of reserves, because without those two things Argentine bonds are hardly
• 51:52
  paid. Look back at the other two issues, governance and social tolerance.
• 52:00
  Not social tolerance as you look at and fulfill something that I think is central,
• 52:04
  which is basically inflation. After all this is not achieved, but great
• 52:10
  the benefit of the doubt for now reaches at some point it will have to
• 52:14
  be seen not going on with unemployment. Maybe so, but I say let
• 52:20
  ' s think about this, I' m going to make an analogy with
• 52:22
  what happened after two thousand one, not after two thousand one. From the
• 52:25
  year two thousand five we had the two thousand two that had inflation of forty
• 52:30
  percent, but that, compared to what was the assessment of the weight,
• 52:31
  was quite low. Not the pastru called was low. If the plot can
• 52:36
  be one to four and you alone is a devaluation of seventy- five percent
• 52:39
  and inflation was forty percent in two thousand two. Now, by two thousand
• 52:45
  and four, inflation was at extremely low levels. I mean, six percent
• 52:50
  a year had been put in two. With two thousand five you start to
• 52:52
  give these one. I was hoping inflation would eat political capital from the quinerism
• 52:57
  that ruled and the truth that we had 25 percent, 30 percent infestations and
• 53:01
  nothing happened. I believe that after two thousand one, the great trauma of
• 53:07
  associating unemployment more than inflation and while there was employment, there was tolerance for
• 53:13
  inflation. It is not also true that, in general, he was embarrassed
• 53:17
  at the expense of certain things, but he was embarrassed, perhaps I do
• 53:23
  not say that it is the reality, but society was traumatized by inflation.
• 53:28
  We have seen that we come from inflations that since the end of Cristina'
• 53:34
  s second government has practically doubled. Not the level of each government ends with
• 53:37
  higher inflammations. Magna ended up with forty peaks and my memory does not fail
• 53:43
  me this or psychoetypic. He had two years above, up forty and Torrino,
• 53:47
  fifty and Alberto Fernández, except for the year of the pandemic due to
• 53:51
  a gross economic pressure that lasted thirty- five percent. They' ve always
• 53:54
  doubled or more. The level of inflation. Not this year is going to
• 54:00
  be higher, but there what you have to look at is like the monthly
• 54:02
  December number, which is what you' re going to say. I say
• 54:05
  the high inviolations, because you corrected the relative price. Then it' s
• 54:07
  enough. That will make it necessary to see whether the trauma, no more
• 54:12
  than unemployment, did not become inflation. Ignacio. Thank you very much,
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  uh, no, please, thank you for a great greeting Ignatius. Lavaqui
• 54:20
  here in plural construction. We leave quickly to the pause and after them we
• 54:23
  are presenting the audio of Alejandro Rosman. Agamina we' re going to have
• 54:28
  to leave Alejandro' s audio first Alejandro rock Ante this week. I don
• 54:30
  ' t know what happened to Gustavo Ferrari, so we' ll clear it
• 54:32
  up tomorrow. It' s a poego with us here on the air Quick
• 54:36
  pause and we say goodbye to Rofa. Okay. I' ll say goodbye.
• 54:37
  I' ll say goodbye. Juan you hit Rockman after the batch and
• 54:39
  I' ll meet you here tomorrow morning at 4: 00 p m.
• 54:43
  Thank you so much. Surely tomorrow, as I say, will be repairing
• 54:45
  today' s non- exit that I don' t know what happened.
• 54:46
  You all like it for the tree. Thank you, Juan Bye Bye.
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  day Monday to make good in- depth analysis of current trends, in terms
• 56:06
  of large economic and social aggregates and short- term and lifelong prospects. It
• 56:13
  ' s a good time to do it. We are in the middle of
• 56:17
  the first year of the graduate government in Millay and I find it valuable to
• 56:23
  make a capituland network from where we stand and where we are going. When
• 56:28
  it was installed, the Government stated that it would develop dynamic action with regard
• 56:36
  to the structural factors hindering the economic and social development of contemporary Argentina, and
• 56:44
  it is a good time to see the results. It has been, as
• 56:47
  I said before, six months and it can be very useful to mark the
• 56:54
  actolic development. We have data until April, or close to May. Of
• 57:00
  course, but December, January, February, March and April would already have
• 57:06
  to mark a definite trend. The most interesting fact is that of the evolution
• 57:15
  of the level of economic activity. It arises from information provided by a highly
• 57:23
  acrederated consulting company in the local financial square, which writes every matrix of intent,
• 57:30
  political skill and tells us that economic activity in the first quarter of January
• 57:35
  fell six comma three percent choose in the first four months. That is the
• 57:43
  retreat of the Argentine economy, a very high level. It certainly contrasts with
• 57:49
  what is happening in all the other countries of Latin America. In opening that
• 57:54
  retreat it was three percent, not because there has been a singular expansion.
• 58:01
  Compared to March, which was ten the warmest, but because information about the
• 58:06
  evolution of the agricultural sector began to be felt. Last year it was heavily
• 58:13
  affected by the fierce drought and then compensated for the collapse of the other indicators.
• 58:22
  Thus it is stated that in the field of livestock agriculture it scored in
• 58:30
  April the sixty- seven percent increase and in the plural construction led by Fernando
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