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The Quiet Betrayal: How a Trusted Advisor Stole Lives and Savings · Dark Psychology Manipulation

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  Speaker 1: At seven fifteen on a Wednesday morning in October two
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  Speaker 1: thousand twenty two, a senior drainage technician named Ronald Barnes
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  Speaker 1: crawled beneath the floor of a vacant property on Colfax's
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  Speaker 1: Ridge Lane in Colfax's Ridge Lane, Portsmouth, Ohio. His flashlight
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  Speaker 1: found a burgundy leather hand bag pressed against the crawl
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  Speaker 1: space access panel. The brass hardware was barely scratched. It looked,
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  Speaker 1: Barnes would later say, like a woman had set it
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  Speaker 1: down while searching for her keys. That hand bag did
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  Speaker 1: not belong there, and the woman whose license was inside
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  Speaker 1: it had been missing for eleven days. What investigators would
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  Speaker 1: uncover over the following weeks was not a random crime
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  Speaker 1: of opportunity. It was the final chapter of a calculated,
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  Speaker 1: year's long process, one man's deliberate, patient dismantling of another
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  Speaker 1: person's reality. The evidence pointed toward a financial adviser with
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  Speaker 1: a clean regulatory record, a rented office on Crestwood Avenue,
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  Speaker 1: and a method so quiet it had already consumed at
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  Speaker 1: least two other women before Valerie Turner ever walked through
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  Speaker 1: his door. There is something in this case that resists
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  Speaker 1: easy explanation not because the facts are unclear, they are
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  Speaker 1: ultimately documented and confessed, but because the mechanism at its
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  Speaker 1: center is not a weapon or a threat. It is
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  Speaker 1: a relationship, and that changes everything about how it worked
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  Speaker 1: and how long it went unseen. Valerie Turner was sixty
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  Speaker 1: one years old and lived alone in Delphos, Ohio. In
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  Speaker 1: the autumn of two thousand, twenty twenty. She had spent
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  Speaker 1: twenty two years as a billing coordinator at Limestone Regional
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  Speaker 1: Medical Center. Methodical work, detail work, the kind of job
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  Speaker 1: where a single transposed digit costs some one a thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars and a phone call.
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  Speaker 2: She was good at it. She kept a handwritten ledger
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  Speaker 2: of her.
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  Speaker 1: Personal checking account, long after most people had moved entirely
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  Speaker 1: to honorine banking, not because she distrusted technology, because she
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  Speaker 1: trusted the act of writing things down. Her husband, Gerald,
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  Speaker 1: had died of a cardiac event in October twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: They had been together for decades. His death left her
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  Speaker 1: with a life insurance payout of two hundred ten thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 1: a paid mortgage, and a modest four one k It
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  Speaker 1: also left her with the particular silence that comes after
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  Speaker 1: a long shared life ends, she retired from Limestone Regional
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  Speaker 1: in the spring of twenty twenty. Within months, the practical
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  Speaker 1: scaffolding that had organized her days, the commute, the schedule.
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  Speaker 2: The department was gone. She was not fragile.
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  Speaker 1: She was simply, for the first time in a very
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  Speaker 1: long time, unmoored. Her daughter, Cassie, lived in Portland, Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: They spoke every Wednesday at nine in the evening, a
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  Speaker 1: ritual Cassie had kept for years from Portland. The calls
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  Speaker 1: felt reassuring. Valerie's voice was steady, purposeful. She asked questions
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  Speaker 1: about Cassie's work. She mentioned errands. She sounded like herself.
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  Speaker 1: A neighbor on Aldermere Court, a woman named Phyllis, a Strander,
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  Speaker 1: had recently become a widow herself. Phyllis had found some
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  Speaker 1: one she described as a genuinely helpful financial adviser, some
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  Speaker 1: one who had taken real time with her, who remembered
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  Speaker 1: the details of conversations weeks later, who had never once
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  Speaker 1: pushed her to sign anything at a first meeting.
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  Speaker 2: His name was Roger Fisher.
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  Speaker 1: He had an office on Crestwood Avenue in Portsmouth and
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  Speaker 1: a series sixty five license no complaints on file with
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  Speaker 1: the State Securities Board. Phyllis gave Valerie his number. In
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  Speaker 1: early twenty twenty one, Valerie made an appointment and drove
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  Speaker 1: to Portsmouth.
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  Speaker 2: She brought a legal pad. Roger Fisher was fifty four
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  Speaker 2: years old. He was not flashy.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators would later describe his presentation as careful, a man
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  Speaker 1: who listened more than he spoke in early meetings, who
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  Speaker 1: asked about a client's history before ever mentioned in a product.
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  Speaker 2: At that first meeting.
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  Speaker 1: On Crestwood Avenue in March twenty twenty one, he did
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  Speaker 1: not try to sell Valerie anything. He asked about Gerald
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  Speaker 1: He asked what financial security meant to her personally.
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  Speaker 2: He asked what kept her up at night.
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  Speaker 1: Valerie drove home and noted the meeting on her legal pad.
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  Speaker 1: What she could not have knowed, because she had no
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  Speaker 1: way to know, was that Fisher had been running this
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  Speaker 1: same approach since at least two thousand seventeen. A woman
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  Speaker 1: named Patricia Ellsworth, sixty seven, a widow in Ashland County,
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  Speaker 1: had met Fisher that year under similar circumstances. By the
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  Speaker 1: time investigators reached Ellsworth's accounts, three hundred twelve thousand, dollars
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  Speaker 1: were gone. Another client, Dorothy Has seventy three, had become
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  Speaker 1: a Fisher client in two thousand twenty. Dorothy signed a
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  Speaker 1: power of attorney over to Fisher. In the spring of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, the same season Fisher was first meeting Valor.
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  Speaker 1: Dorothy entered an assisted living facility that autumn. She died
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  Speaker 1: in March twenty twenty two. Of the approximately three hundred
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  Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars in her estate when Fisher entered her life,
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  Speaker 1: only about forty thousand passed through probate. These losses were
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  Speaker 1: not yet public when Valerie Turner sat across from Roger
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  Speaker 1: Fisher with her legal pad and her careful handwriting and
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  Speaker 1: her reasonable, understandable hope that some one could help her
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  Speaker 1: make sense of what she had left. Fisher had been
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  Speaker 1: watching women in exactly her position for years. He knew
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  Speaker 1: what the first meeting needed to look like. He knew
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  Speaker 1: what not to say. He knew that the work of
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  Speaker 1: the second meeting and the third was simply to keep
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  Speaker 1: showing up and to be the kind of person aggrieving,
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  Speaker 1: newly retired woman was glad to see walk through the door,
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  Speaker 1: the first concrete image that would eventually unravel Everything was
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  Speaker 1: a purse, not a discarded one, not torn or muddied.
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  Speaker 1: A burgundy leather bag with gold hardware, almost perfect, sitting
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  Speaker 1: against an access panel at the base of a crawl
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  Speaker 1: space at a vacant property on Colfax's Ridge Lane. Ronald Barnes,
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  Speaker 1: a senior technician with Hendrix Well and Drain, found it
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  Speaker 1: at seven fifteen in the morning on a Wednesday in
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  Speaker 1: October twenty twenty two. He had nineteen years of experience
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  Speaker 1: reading the condition of things in tight, dark spaces. He
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  Speaker 1: later said it looked like a woman had set it
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  Speaker 1: down while she.
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  Speaker 2: Searched for her keys.
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  Speaker 1: That description, so ordinary, so careful, is what made it impossible.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody searches for their keys at the crawl space access
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  Speaker 1: panel of an empty house. And Valerie Turner had been
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  Speaker 1: missing for days. Between March twenty twenty one and the
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  Speaker 1: summer of twenty twenty two, Roger Fisher showed up. That
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  Speaker 1: is the phrase that keeps appearing in the record. He
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  Speaker 1: showed up at Crestwood Avenue for appointments Valerie had carefully scheduled.
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  Speaker 1: He showed up with small gestures. She noted in the
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  Speaker 1: way organized people note things that feel significant. He remembered
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  Speaker 1: what she had said at the last meeting. He asked
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  Speaker 1: follow up questions before she thought to ask them herself.
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  Speaker 1: In August twenty twenty one, Valerie granted Fisher discretionary authority
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  Speaker 1: over an account holding one hundred eight two thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: The legal pad she had brought to that first meeting
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  Speaker 1: recorded the decision, same handwriting, same careful columns. The number
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  Speaker 1: looked reasonable against the page. What the page could not
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  Speaker 1: record was the sequence of conversations that had made reasonable
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  Speaker 1: feel inevitable, the gradual narrowing of whose financial opinion Valerie trusted,
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  Speaker 1: the slow repositioning of Fisher as the one person who
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  Speaker 1: understood her situation clearly. One month after that grant of authority,
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  Speaker 1: Fisher moved fifty thousand dollars into a private investment vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: Cassie Turner, calling from Portland every Wednesday at nine in
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  Speaker 1: the evening, noticed something that autumn, not a fact, a quality.
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  Speaker 1: Her mother's voice had a slightly different shape when the
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  Speaker 1: subject turned to money, careful, where she had always been direct, deferential,
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  Speaker 1: where she had always been precise. Cassie could not name it,
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  Speaker 1: yet she filed it. Then came November twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: a Tuesday, Valerie stopped calling Cassie before financial decisions. It
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  Speaker 1: was a habit they had kept for years, Valerie checking in,
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  Speaker 1: Cassie asking questions, the two of them working through it
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  Speaker 1: together across the distance. When Cassie noticed the calls had stopped,
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  Speaker 1: Valerie explained it in a phrase Cassie had never once
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  Speaker 1: heard her mother use. She said she was maturing she
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  Speaker 1: had recorded the same word in her notebook, Maturing Cassie
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  Speaker 1: did not recognize that word as belonging to her mother,
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  Speaker 1: She recognized it as belonging to some one else. The
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  Speaker 1: phrase investigators later focused on came through Cassie's account of
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  Speaker 1: those months three times in approximately two months, Valerie told
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  Speaker 1: her daughter some version of the same thing that Cassie
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  Speaker 1: did not trust Fisher's judgment. Each time, the phrasing was
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  Speaker 1: almost identical, not Cassie's phrasing Fisher's. A borrowed voice is
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  Speaker 1: not a red flag most people know how to name.
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  Speaker 1: Valerie was sixty one years old, twenty two years of
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  Speaker 1: professional discipline behind her, A woman who had maintained a
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  Speaker 1: paper ledger of her own checking account by hand. She
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  Speaker 1: was not naive she was isolated, and isolation built carefully
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  Speaker 1: enough feels from the inside like independence. By mid October
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Valerie Turner was gone.
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  Speaker 2: There is a detail that.
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  Speaker 1: Arrives here and changes the geometry of everything before it.
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  Speaker 1: When Meghan Mueller, the private investigator Cassie hired after her
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  Speaker 1: mother missed their Wednesday call, began pulling property records in
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  Speaker 1: February twenty twenty three, she found a listing fourteen Colfax
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  Speaker 1: Ridge Lane, a property marketed through a limited liability company.
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  Speaker 1: The registered agent of that LLC was Patrick Seal. Patrick
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  Speaker 1: Seal was Roger Fisher's brother in law. The vacant house
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  Speaker 1: where Barnes had found Valerie's purse against the crawl space panel,
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  Speaker 1: the house Fisher had moved Valerie to before transferring her
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  Speaker 1: to the motel near Bouchiera's, had been listed for sale
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  Speaker 1: through a company controlled by a member of Fisher's own family.
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  Speaker 1: The purse was not random, the location was not random.
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  Speaker 1: Fisher had used a property he could access and predict
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  Speaker 1: a space. His family's company controlled a house that would
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  Speaker 1: look from the outside like nothing more than an ordinary
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  Speaker 1: vacancy on an ordinary street. Inside the crawl space soil
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  Speaker 1: transfer analysis found clay consistent with the composition of the
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  Speaker 1: ground at Aldermere Court, the Delphos Neighborboltler Valeri lived. The
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  Speaker 1: partial bootprint preserved in the damp soil beneath the access
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  Speaker 1: panel was a size eleven Roger.
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  Speaker 2: Fisher wore a size eleven.
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  Speaker 1: A package delivery driver shown a photograph identified Fisher as
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  Speaker 1: the man he had seen parked near the arbor Vite
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  Speaker 1: trees on Aldermere Court on two separate occasions in the
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  Speaker 1: weeks before a Valerie disappeared. He had been watching her
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  Speaker 1: neighborhood before she was gone. That understanding arriving in sequence,
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  Speaker 1: one physical fact at a time is what Megan Muller
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  Speaker 1: brought to Detective Scott Dillard of the Portsmouth Police Department.
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  Speaker 1: Dillard reviewed the presentation and authorized a search warrant.
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  Speaker 2: Valerie was already.
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  Speaker 1: Found by then alive at the motel mir Bassiris on
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  Speaker 1: October nineteen teenth, twenty twenty, two eleven days of isolation.
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  Speaker 1: Dehydrated and disoriented, She initially told officers she had gone
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  Speaker 1: to the motel on her own. Fisher was arrested two
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  Speaker 1: days later on October twenty first stand inside the first
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  Speaker 1: version of this story for a moment, the version Fisher's
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  Speaker 1: own behavior seemed to offer a financial adviser whose client,
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  Speaker 1: a recently retired widow, had made a series of voluntary
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  Speaker 1: decisions with her own money, then left voluntarily to stay
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  Speaker 1: at a motel. Nothing forced, no locked doors in the record,
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  Speaker 1: no documented physical violence. Valerie herself, in those first hours,
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  Speaker 1: said she had gone alone. That version held together if
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  Speaker 1: you did not look at the crawl space picture the
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  Speaker 1: access panel at the base of fourteen Colfax Ridge Lane.
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  Speaker 1: A burgundy bag almost perfect, placed against it, not thrown,
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  Speaker 1: not dropped in panic, set down with a particular kind
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  Speaker 1: of care, the kind of care that belongs to some
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  Speaker 1: one who is very controlled or.
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  Speaker 2: Very afraid, or both.
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  Speaker 1: The bag holds sixty three dollars in cash, two credit cards,
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  Speaker 1: a library card, and Valerie Turner's driver's license, her identity,
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  Speaker 1: her access to the world, all of it in a
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  Speaker 1: place she could not reach, in a house she had
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  Speaker 1: not chosen.
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  Speaker 2: That image does not belong in the voluntary version.
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  Speaker 1: Consider the soil on the floor of the crawl space
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  Speaker 1: clay from Aldermere Court transferred to Colfax's ridge. Consider the
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  Speaker 1: boot print, Consider the delivery driver who saw a man
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  Speaker 1: standing near Valley's neighborhood not once, but twice before she vanished.
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  Speaker 1: Consider the property itself not a random vacant house, but.
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  Speaker 2: One managed through accompany.
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  Speaker 1: Fisher's own family control it. Each of those facts on
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  Speaker 1: its own fits the voluntary account with effort.
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  Speaker 2: Together, they do not. The second version, the one the.
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  Speaker 1: Physical evidence assembles, looks like this. Fisher had been managing
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  Speaker 1: Valerie's access to the world for months before she disappeared,
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  Speaker 1: her financial accounts, her decision making the phrase she used
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  Speaker 1: with her own daughter. The motel near Bucyrus was not
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  Speaker 1: a destination she chose. It was a final step in
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  Speaker 1: a sequence that had begun in a different form years
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  Speaker 1: before she ever sat down across from him on Crestwood Avenue.
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  Speaker 1: Fisher's interrogation lasted three hours. He confessed the scheme he
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  Speaker 1: acknowledged had begun with Patricia Ellsworth in twenty seventeen. Beverly Rourke,
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  Speaker 1: who had met Fisher in a grief support group in
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen and had pulled back from signing documents on
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  Speaker 1: instinct alone, called the tip line after she saw his
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  Speaker 1: face in the news. She had felt something she could
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  Speaker 1: not name. She had stopped anyway. Dorothy Hass had not stopped.
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  Speaker 1: Patricia Ellsworth had not stopped. Valerie Turner had not stopped.
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  Speaker 1: And what that says about the sophistication of what Fisher
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  Speaker 1: built is the most difficult part of the record to
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  Speaker 1: sit with.
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  Speaker 2: The final fact to hold the legal pad.
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  Speaker 1: Valerie had carried it to her first meeting with Fisher
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  Speaker 1: in March twenty twenty one. She had carried it, according
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  Speaker 1: to the record, to her final meeting with Megan Muller
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  Speaker 1: as well. Same notebook, same handwriting. The columns were still careful.
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  Speaker 1: What had changed was what they recorded and what they
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  Speaker 1: proved about the woman who had kept them. Valerie Turner
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  Speaker 1: was found on October nineteenth, twenty twenty two, a motel
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  Speaker 1: near Bussiris, Ohio, eleven days after she vanished from Aldermere Court.
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  Speaker 1: She was alive, dehydrated, disoriented, but alive. The record does
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  Speaker 1: not detail what those eleven days held for her. What
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  Speaker 1: it does establish is the condition she was in when
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  Speaker 1: she was found and the condition of the burgundy bag
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  Speaker 1: that had been left against a crawl space panel at
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  Speaker 1: fourteen Colfax rich Lay one woman, two locations, the distance
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  Speaker 1: between them measured not in miles, but in the months
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  Speaker 1: of systematic work that had made the second location possible.
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  Speaker 1: Roger Fisher was arrested two days later, on October twenty first.
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  Speaker 2: At his apartment in Portsmouth.
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  Speaker 1: The interrogation ran three hours. He confessed to a scheme that,
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  Speaker 1: by his own account, had not begun with Valerie Turner.
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  Speaker 1: It had begun with Patricia Ellsworth in two thousand, seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: five years of practice before Valerie ever walked into the
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  Speaker 1: office on Crestwood Avenue with her legal pad and her
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  Speaker 1: careful questions. Patricia Ellsworth sixty seven years old, a widow
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  Speaker 1: from Ashland County three hundred twelve thousand dollars. Dorothy has
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  Speaker 1: seventy three widowed in two thousand nineteen. Her estate held
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  Speaker 1: approximately three hundred forty thousand dollars. When Fisher entered her life,
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  Speaker 1: roughly forty thousand dollars passed through probate. The arithmetic of
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  Speaker 1: what happened in between is not complicated, It is only devastating.
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  Speaker 1: Dorothy has died in March of twenty twenty two at
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  Speaker 1: the assisted living facility in Finlay. She did not live
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  Speaker 1: to see an arrest. Patricia Ellsworth did In March of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Fisher entered a guilty plead two counts
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  Speaker 1: of exploitation of a vulnerable adult, one count of theft
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  Speaker 1: by deception, one count of unlawful restraint of liberty. The
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  Speaker 1: sentence eleven years. Eleven years is the number that closes
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  Speaker 1: the legal record. It does not close everything else. Beverly Rourke,
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  Speaker 1: fifty nine years old from Galion, Ohio, had met Fisher
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  Speaker 1: in a grief support group in two thy fifteen. She
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  Speaker 1: had begun the process of signing documents. She had stopped
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  Speaker 1: not because she found evidence, not because someone warned her,
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  Speaker 1: but because something in the sequence felt wrong to her,
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  Speaker 1: and she listened to that feeling. After Fisher's face appeared
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  Speaker 1: in the news, she called the tip line. What she
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  Speaker 1: told investigators filled in the earliest part of the pattern.
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  Speaker 1: Her instinct years earlier had protected her. Her call, years
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  Speaker 1: later helped confirm the architecture of what he had built.
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  Speaker 1: The investigation that ultimately located Valerie began with Cassie Turner's
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  Speaker 1: decision to hire Megan Muller. Muller had spent fifteen years
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  Speaker 1: examining fraud for an insurance company before working independently she
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  Speaker 1: brought that discipline to the property. Records traced the LLC
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  Speaker 1: managing fourteen Colfax rich Lane back through Patrick Seal, Fisher's
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  Speaker 1: own brother in law, and presented the connection to Detective
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  Speaker 1: Scott Dillard. Dillard authorized the search warrant. The rest followed
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  Speaker 1: from the bag Ronald Barnes had found at seven fifteen
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  Speaker 1: in the morning against a panel that should have had
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  Speaker 1: nothing behind it, the partial boot print in the wet
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  Speaker 1: soil size eleven Fisher's size, the soil transfer from Aldermere
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  Speaker 1: Court identified in the crawl space, the delivery driver who
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  Speaker 1: placed Fisher near Valerie's neighborhood standing at the edge of
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  Speaker 1: the arbor Vidas twice before she disappeared. None of it
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  Speaker 1: was coincidence. All of it together was the physical record
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  Speaker 1: of a plan.
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  Speaker 2: What made the plan work.
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  Speaker 1: For as long as it did is harder to quantify
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  Speaker 1: than a boot size or a soil sample. Fisher did
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  Speaker 1: not arrive in Valerie's life with threats or urgency. He
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  Speaker 1: arrived with patience. He remembered what she told him. He
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  Speaker 1: did not push in the first meeting. He let the
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  Speaker 1: trust accumulate until it weighed enough to move The decisions
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  Speaker 1: he needed moved.
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  Speaker 2: The phrase Cassie had never heard her.
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  Speaker 1: Mother use, you don't trust my judgment had not come
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  Speaker 1: from Valerie. It had been installed there, one conversation at
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  Speaker 1: a time, until it sounded like her. The Burgundy bag
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  Speaker 1: is still the clearest image in this record. Ronald Barnes
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  Speaker 1: found it at seven fifteen in the morning and noted
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  Speaker 1: simply that it looked like a woman had set it
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  Speaker 1: down while searching for her keys.
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  Speaker 2: That observation, the most.
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  Speaker 1: Ordinary possible reading of an extraordinary find, is what made
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  Speaker 1: it land so hard, because that is exactly what it
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  Speaker 1: was designed to look like. Not evidence, not a sign
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  Speaker 1: of struggle, just a bag briefly put down owner about
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  Speaker 1: to return. Valerie Turner kept a legal pad. She carried
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  Speaker 1: it to her first meeting with Roger Fisher in March
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  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one. She carried it, according to the record,
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  Speaker 1: to her final meeting with Megan Mullin, saying, noble, same handwriting,
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  Speaker 1: the columns were still careful. What changed was not the
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  Speaker 1: woman writing. What changed was the information Fisher had spent
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  Speaker 1: months inserting between her and her own judgment, the managed accounts,
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  Speaker 1: the new vocabulary she repeated back to her daughter, the
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  Speaker 1: slowly narrowing circle of who she consulted before she acted.
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  Speaker 1: She had been a billing coordinator for twenty two years.
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  Speaker 1: She tracked her check book by hand. She was not
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  Speaker 1: someone who missed things. That is the part of this
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  Speaker 1: case that does not resolve cleanly. No matter how many
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  Speaker 1: documents are signed or sentences handed down, the tools Fisher
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  Speaker 1: used did not work despite Valerie's precision. They worked through
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  Speaker 1: it by mimicking the language of careful financial planning, by
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  Speaker 1: arriving at a moment of genuine vulnerability, and by building incrementally,
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  Speaker 1: and by building incrementally a version of the world in
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  Speaker 1: which his judgment and her judgment had merged into something
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  Speaker 1: she no longer questioned. Dorothy Haas had not stopped, Patricia
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  Speaker 1: Ellsworth had not stopped, Beverly Rourke had stopped, and she
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  Speaker 1: could not.
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  Speaker 2: Fully explain why.
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  Speaker 1: Only something had felt wrong before she could prove it was.
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  Speaker 1: Valerie Turner survived. That is the fact the record closes on,
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  Speaker 1: and it is not.
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  Speaker 2: A small one.
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  Speaker 1: She was found alive. The bag was found first, then her.
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  Speaker 1: The legal pad, which she had used to track everything
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  Speaker 1: Fisher told her she was gaining ultimately became part of
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  Speaker 1: the documentation of what he had taken, and the columns
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  Speaker 1: in it, careful, meticulous hers were what proved she had
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  Speaker 1: been paying attention all along. Fisher had not replaced her.
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  Speaker 1: He had only, for a time stood between.
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  Speaker 2: Her and what she already knew.
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  Speaker 1: Eleven years a number that represents a legal outcome and
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  Speaker 1: cannot fully represent the weight of what Patricia Ellsworth lost,
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  Speaker 1: what Dorothy has lost without ever seeing accountability.
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  Speaker 2: What Valerie Turner.
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  Speaker 1: Spent eleven days in a motel near bussyris carrying alone.
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  Speaker 1: What Beverly Rourke said when she called the tip line
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  Speaker 1: has not been made puppa, but she called, and, in
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  Speaker 1: a case built on the exploitation of grief and isolation
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  Speaker 1: and trust, that called from someone who had once stood
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  Speaker 1: at the edge of this and stepped back was the
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  Speaker 1: act of a person refusing to let the pattern continue
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  Speaker 1: without a name on it. This show is made by
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  Speaker 1: Obamedia