"I'm Not Good at Doing Nothing"

Firewall with Bradley Tusk · Oct 1, 2026 · 1h 1m

What would you do with a year devoted to getting good at one thing? Ravi Gupta, good friend of the pod, is back on Firewall to talk about his new book, The Invisible List, in which he argues for chasing one new passion every year, no matter how busy or stuck you feel. He and Bradley talk about tennis as a midlife balm, the surprising difficulty of making risotto, the secret greatness of Western New York, dinner parties where every guest confesses a meaningful failure and why hobbies are cool. "Hobbies," says Gupta, "are how you meet your friends, your significant others. It's how you inspire…