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Are Skye Wheatley & Michael Finch Friends Again? · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken.
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  Speaker 2: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
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  Speaker 2: news twice a week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Amy Torber. I'm Kate Torber. And I'm Sophie Torber.
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  Speaker 2: And coming up on today's show, Bec Zachariah's rib recontouring backflip,
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  Speaker 2: the influencer baby boom, and are Sky Wheatley and.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Finch friends again? But first, Hilary Duff's.
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  Speaker 2: Tour is only a couple of months away. We will
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  Speaker 2: see her in Australia in October. And to get us
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  Speaker 2: even more excited, if that's possible, for the tour, our
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  Speaker 2: mum dug up all of our old Hilary Duff CDs.
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  Speaker 2: And at family dinner last night, we decided to play
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  Speaker 2: a game of who could guess all of the songs
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  Speaker 2: on the CDs. The husbands were really rapt about this game,
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  Speaker 2: especially Dale, who had been seated right down the end
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  Speaker 2: with us.
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  Speaker 1: It was actually quite tragic.
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  Speaker 2: Like I could, you know, when you sort of, can
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  Speaker 2: see out of yourself and like you're a fly on
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  Speaker 2: the wall.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, God, we look pathetic. But I didn't care.
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  Speaker 2: Like I was so engulfed in it and the nostalgia
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  Speaker 2: of it all. I didn't even care because usually at
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  Speaker 2: family dinner, we're at each other's throats.
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  Speaker 1: Like we are arguing.
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  Speaker 2: But it was this really wholesome time. It brought me
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  Speaker 2: back to when we were teenagers.
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  Speaker 1: When we got along.
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  Speaker 2: And we were so lovely to each other because we
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  Speaker 2: all liked the same things. We could all get around
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  Speaker 2: the same celebrities. At one point, my husband was like,
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  Speaker 2: I think I prefer when they fight with each other.
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  Speaker 2: Is that when we started in unison singing Haters by
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  Speaker 2: Hilary Duff?
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  Speaker 1: Like that was a low point.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, I forgot about that song. I'm so
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  Speaker 2: sad she's not actually playing it at the concert. Amongst
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  Speaker 2: the Hilary Duff CDs were some other classic ones. I
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  Speaker 2: will have the podcast listeners know that we actually have
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  Speaker 2: a signed copy of Lee Harding's Wasabi.
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  Speaker 1: Now, we got it signed.
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  Speaker 2: Look, arguably, that was the most embarrassing CD until we
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  Speaker 2: found the handmade one. So, Kate, you had spent time
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  Speaker 2: making Sophie a CD which had a photo of Dean
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  Speaker 2: Geyer on the front. There was also photos of Dean
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  Speaker 2: Geyer throughout the casing of the CD.
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  Speaker 1: And it was entitled... the real winner's journey.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously in reference to the fact that Dean Guyer did
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  Speaker 2: not take out the crown for Australian Idol that year.
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  Speaker 1: Can you believe that Damien Leith beat him?
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  Speaker 2: Like who was voting for, no offence Damien Leith, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure you're a lovely guy, but who was voting for
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  Speaker 2: Damien Leith over Dean Guyer? Amy ended up sharing the
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  Speaker 2: CD on Outspoken Instagram story. I noticed you did tag
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  Speaker 2: Dean Gaia and it just cracked me up because Amy's
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  Speaker 2: husband there was like, are you trying to flirt with
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  Speaker 2: him or something? Like, is that what, and then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: as a joke. And I was like, oh, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I am. You're like, I'll call you, pick up on that.
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  Speaker 1: But the funniest thing was like, of course I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Like, this is actually, this is making us look so
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  Speaker 2: fucking tragic.
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  Speaker 1: I really, yeah. Dean's not going to reply to that shit.
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  Speaker 2: Well, also, I mean, I think his partner is a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks away from having their baby.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm sure he's not.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A few more important things going on.
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  Speaker 2: I actually think the wasabi was the lowest moment of
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  Speaker 2: the night because we were actually trying to auction off
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  Speaker 2: the CD. So it was who wants this one? And
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  Speaker 2: our partners were shocked because we were fighting over who was.
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  Speaker 1: Getting which CD.
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  Speaker 2: And Brandon was like, please, I don't fucking want any
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  Speaker 2: of these in our house. I actually think the lowest
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  Speaker 2: point of the night was when we remembered that we
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  Speaker 2: went to the Young Divas signing and our partners were like,
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  Speaker 2: why did you do that?
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  Speaker 1: And we're like, there wasn't much going on. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we were 18 at the time. The age was the
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  Speaker 1: saddest part.
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  Speaker 2: But as I said to Brandon, who was having a
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  Speaker 2: laugh at how old we were, I read a recent
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  Speaker 2: article and it was talking about people like us who
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  Speaker 2: went along to signings or were really heavily invested in
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  Speaker 2: particular musicians.
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  Speaker 1: Can I call the Young Divas musicians? Yeah, stans of artists.
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  Speaker 1: There's some great singers in the Young Divas. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: happy to speak badly of them. They actually do.
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  Speaker 2: But apparently a lot of people who are stans turn
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  Speaker 2: into journalists. Is that because they're good at hounding people? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Very inquisitive.
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  Speaker 2: Look, Brandon was giving us shit. He knew every single
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  Speaker 2: word to wasabi.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he probably was 12 when it came out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say he was probably at
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  Speaker 2: the age where it was more acceptable. But I want
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  Speaker 2: to put it out there to Outspoken's audience. Like was
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  Speaker 2: it embarrassing of us to go to signings, like CD
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  Speaker 2: signings when we were 17, 18?
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was play on, like to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I do it now.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was okay because we looked 12. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't you guys do that now? If Hilary
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  Speaker 2: Duff had a signing, I'd definitely line up. But I
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  Speaker 2: think 18 is quite young. I said to Brandon, but
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  Speaker 2: if you're a teenager, how can you go to these signings? Like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, our parents weren't dropping us off when we
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  Speaker 2: were teenagers. We drove our Barina down there. Look, it's
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  Speaker 2: probably quite sexist, but to be honest, if my husband
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  Speaker 2: told me that he lined up at the Young Divas
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  Speaker 2: signing when he was 18, I'd probably have something to
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  Speaker 2: say about it. Yeah, but they're all lining up meeting
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  Speaker 2: footy players and getting photos with them.
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  Speaker 1: So were we. That's a different reason.
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  Speaker 2: Bec Zachariah has announced she will be getting her ribs
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  Speaker 2: recontoured in Bali. Last week, the maths contestant backed out
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  Speaker 2: of getting the controversial cosmetic procedure during an all expenses
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  Speaker 2: brand trip. At the time, the stunt was labeled a
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  Speaker 2: PR ploy by fellow maths contestant Dom Calarco. I was
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  Speaker 2: actually pretty surprised that Bec went ahead with this surgery.
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  Speaker 2: And I wonder how much pressure was actually put upon
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  Speaker 2: her by the brand that's paying for this all expenses
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  Speaker 2: paid surgical trip because she literally went to the hospital
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  Speaker 2: only a week earlier, you know, was all marked up,
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  Speaker 2: ready to go and backed out of it. So clearly
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  Speaker 2: she had some concerns. I mean, at the time she
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  Speaker 2: said she needed a little bit more time to think
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  Speaker 2: about her decision and now she's suddenly, oh no, I'm
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  Speaker 2: so confident about it. Like what's happened in between? Or
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  Speaker 2: was this a bit of showbiz for the Maths Funny podcast?
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  Speaker 2: Because as we touched on a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: journalist Josh Ewer-Fox has.
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  Speaker 1: Been following this brand trip.
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  Speaker 2: He actually received free airfares and also free accommodation as
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  Speaker 2: part of it. He did tell the brand that he
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be restricted by what he wanted to say and
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  Speaker 2: he would be covering it in a non-biased way. However,
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  Speaker 2: that obviously did put a bit of seed of doubt
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  Speaker 2: over the coverage.
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  Speaker 1: But when Beck pulled out of the surgery.
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  Speaker 2: It made his reporting look more genuine and as if
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  Speaker 2: he was showing the potential negative side effects and the
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  Speaker 2: fear around this sort of cosmetic procedure. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: was definitely good timing for Josh and his podcast. And
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  Speaker 2: there clearly is a bit of a friendship here between
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  Speaker 2: Beck and Josh. I mean, the only reason Josh documented
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  Speaker 2: it on his podcast was because.
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  Speaker 1: Beck was on the trip.
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  Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be surprised if this was all a
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  Speaker 2: ploy for PR from Beck. I mean, she's been very
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  Speaker 2: good at maintaining attention off the back of maths. She
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  Speaker 2: was one of the most hated contestants on there and
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  Speaker 2: suddenly is now like the most followed, the person that's
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  Speaker 2: getting all of the brand deals.
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  Speaker 1: And she's smart.
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  Speaker 2: She knows in order to do that, she's going to
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  Speaker 2: stay in the headlines and create drama. And she already
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  Speaker 2: created such a media storm by aligning her story with
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  Speaker 2: the Mass Funny podcast. Then she's created all these twists
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  Speaker 2: and turns and drama because now that she's had the surgery,
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  Speaker 2: she's actually disappeared offline despite saying that she was going
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  Speaker 2: to be transparent about what happened with the surgery.
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  Speaker 1: She had radio silence for two days.
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  Speaker 2: So people have been checking in and she finally updated
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  Speaker 2: everyone saying, oh, I'm okay, but I'll keep you posted.
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  Speaker 1: I just want some privacy right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, hang on, you just had this free surgery
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  Speaker 2: that you said you were going to be really open
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  Speaker 2: and honest about. You're on this all expenses paid trip
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  Speaker 2: from the brand. And now suddenly you're silent for two days.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, my first thought was, has something gone wrong
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  Speaker 2: with the surgery? That's what she wants everyone to think
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  Speaker 2: because she wants everyone to go in and keep checking
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  Speaker 2: in on her page, keep engaging with her content. Not
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  Speaker 2: only is it good PR for Beck, it's also fantastic
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  Speaker 2: PR and engagement for Josh Fox's podcast because he now
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  Speaker 2: has an opportunity to eventually interview her again. It added
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  Speaker 2: an element of drama to his podcast at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the series that he needed. And then it also
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  Speaker 2: got the media writing about the fact that she'd pulled out.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder how the brand feels about it because if
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  Speaker 2: I was someone contemplating having this surgery done and I
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  Speaker 2: was you know, looking on at Beck's page, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: feel ultra confident with going with this company because not
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  Speaker 2: only did she back out after going to the hospital,
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  Speaker 2: but then she's also gone silent after having the surgery.
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  Speaker 2: But is this a case of all publicity is good publicity?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that Beck really cares what the brand thinks.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's all about Beck and whatever is best
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  Speaker 2: for her personal brand. She's got the free surgery now.
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  Speaker 2: She's got the trip. She doesn't need to continue impressing them.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like she can go and get the surgery
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  Speaker 2: done again. I mean, the brand's probably not stoked about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they're savvy enough to see through what she's doing.
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  Speaker 1: In saying that though, she's done her job.
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  Speaker 2: Like people are talking about the brand and people definitely
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  Speaker 2: know about this procedure. I mean, I had no clue
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  Speaker 2: about it until all of this drama went down on
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  Speaker 2: social media.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into what's been blowing up our group chat
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  Speaker 1: this week.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the posts that's been doing the rounds
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  Speaker 2: is one from Brooklyn Beckham. So If you thought the
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  Speaker 2: DoorDash ad he recently did was cringe, this new post
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  Speaker 2: takes the cake. So he shared a post to Instagram entitled, Congratulations,
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  Speaker 2: Kenya and Will. We love you guys so much. You
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  Speaker 2: guys are the best and I couldn't be more happy
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  Speaker 2: for you both. Now, Will is Brooklyn's brother-in-law who is
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  Speaker 2: married to Kenya Kinski-Jones, the daughter of legendary music producer
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  Speaker 2: Quincy Jones.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, they're quite a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: However, They did not feature in one single photo of
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  Speaker 2: this photo dump, despite it being their wedding. When I
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  Speaker 2: looked at these photos, if I hadn't read the caption,
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  Speaker 2: I would have thought that Brooklyn and Nicola had got
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  Speaker 2: remarried because there was even shots of them walking down
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  Speaker 2: the aisle with Brooklyn in a tuxedo. It was the
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  Speaker 2: most self-indulgent post I've ever seen. And I know there's
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: an etiquette around posting wedding content. And the unspoken rule
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  Speaker 2: is you have to wait until until the bride and
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: groom post their own photo before you post anything of them.
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  Speaker 2: So sometimes people get overexcited and they want to post
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  Speaker 2: their own couple photo before the big announcement.
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  Speaker 1: I get that.
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  Speaker 2: Was that the case? Like, is that why they did it? No,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't the reason because a couple had already shared
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  Speaker 2: photos of themselves at their wedding. The awkward thing is
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: Brooklyn's wife, Nicola, also shared a photo of the couple
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  Speaker 2: in to her photo dump, which she shared on the
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  Speaker 2: same day. Now, the comment section was absolutely savage on
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  Speaker 2: Brooklyn's post. Someone wrote, are Kenya and Will in the
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  Speaker 2: room with us? And this received 12,000 likes. Someone else wrote,
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  Speaker 2: who are you congratulating? All these pictures are of you.
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  Speaker 2: While another person said.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, Kenya and Will. Here's 4,000 photos of me.
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  Speaker 2: It is funny when you get married and you see
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  Speaker 2: the photos people share from your wedding. Like, do you
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  Speaker 2: think that Will and Kenya were like, oh, look at
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  Speaker 2: these arrogant twats.
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  Speaker 1: Like we shouldn't have invited them to the wedding. Possibly.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know what Brooklyn is doing with his socials.
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  Speaker 2: Like surely he's got enough money to have an advisor
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  Speaker 2: who would have said, don't do the fucking DoorDash thing.
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  Speaker 2: Don't post self-indulgent things about yourself and Nicola.
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  Speaker 1: But he just continues to do it.
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  Speaker 2: The weird thing is it looks like they were professional
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  Speaker 2: photos and it looked like they were part of the
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  Speaker 2: wedding party. So did the couple send them the photos
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  Speaker 2: and say like, oh, we're happy for you to share them?
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  Speaker 2: It's like, even so, just please like just be polite
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  Speaker 2: and at least include one of them. Exactly. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it just always seems like they're trying to prove how
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  Speaker 2: in love they were. That's how the post came across. Now,
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: the other photos that have been doing the rounds of
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: our group chat are photos of Harry Styles and his
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  Speaker 2: fiance Zoe Kravitz, as well as Jo Olwen and actress
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: Sarah Pidgeon randomly picnicking in the same field in the UK. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't a cute double date or anything. These are
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  Speaker 2: on two separate occasions, but people have noticed.
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  Speaker 1: That they're in the same field.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the photos were reportedly taken in the grassy
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  Speaker 2: meadows of Hampstead Heath, and this is a really wealthy area.
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  Speaker 1: In the UK.
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  Speaker 2: Now, fans have accused Harry and Jo of calling the
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  Speaker 2: paps on themselves, and the reason they think they have
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  Speaker 2: done this is to take the shine away from Taylor
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  Speaker 2: Swift's much-anticipated wedding to Travis Kelsey, which is allegedly happening
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  Speaker 2: this week because they are both exes of Taylor Swift.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even put two and two together. I call
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  Speaker 2: bullshit on this, though. This is not behavior that we're
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: used to seeing from Joe Olwen. He didn't even want
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  Speaker 2: to be seen with Taylor Swift. He's very anti the paparazzi. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a long bow to draw that they
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  Speaker 2: did this to try and take attention away from Taylor
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  Speaker 2: Swift's wedding. But it does look like these shots have
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  Speaker 2: been set up. I mean, what are the chances that
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  Speaker 2: the paps are just hanging around the meadows of Hampstead Heath?
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  Speaker 2: Like these photos were taken long lens, like in the grass.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like in exactly the same spot. And a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Brits have been saying no one in their
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  Speaker 2: right mind would picnic in these fields, especially because there's
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: the heat wave going on in the UK. They said
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  Speaker 2: these fields are filled with ticks. Like why would you
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  Speaker 2: even go there? Well, for privacy because they don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be picnicking where everyone else is. Wouldn't it be
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  Speaker 2: more of a case of Zoe Kravitz and Sarah Pigeon
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  Speaker 2: calling the paps? Like I don't think Harry and Jo would.
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  Speaker 2: And as you said, they're not doing it because of
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  Speaker 2: Taylor's wedding. Well, the only thing that makes me think
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  Speaker 2: that these photos haven't been set up is the fact
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  Speaker 2: that Jo's new girlfriend, Sarah, is puffing away on a vape. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And like especially I just had in my head, you
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  Speaker 2: know I love a London boy and he seems so suave.
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  Speaker 2: But then Joe Olwen sitting in shorts with his white
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  Speaker 2: legs out with her puffing on a vape, it just
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  Speaker 2: didn't look very like demure. It just, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it gave us different vibes. I mean I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: massive fan of Joe Olwen. Why? Because he was never
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  Speaker 2: loud and proud about Taylor. I feel like he held
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  Speaker 2: her back. You know, I absolutely love the fact that
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  Speaker 2: she's marrying Travis Kelsey and he celebrates their love. like
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  Speaker 2: the way that she deserves. And I cannot wait until
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  Speaker 2: we find a little bit more out about this wedding. Now, Kate,
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  Speaker 2: another video, which has been doing the rounds in our
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: group chat, the TikTok where a user named Sarah UCG
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  Speaker 2: mum and humor has shared her views on why millennials
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  Speaker 2: are so nosy. Let's take a listen to what she said.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's millennials were really nosy because we weren't watching
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  Speaker 3: cartoons after school. We were watching the Dr. Phil Oprah,
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  Speaker 3: Maury Povich. We're watching some girl beat up her baby
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  Speaker 3: daddy on live television because He denied the baby and
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  Speaker 3: she knew it was his. And the paternity test came
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  Speaker 3: back and he was the father. Just sitting there with
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  Speaker 3: her pre-son being like, this is good. I knew he
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  Speaker 3: was the dad. There's no way that baby's anyone else. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I do want to know why your cousin lost custody
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  Speaker 3: of her kids in.
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  Speaker 1: Great detail, actually.
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  Speaker 3: We might be a little nosy, but it's really not
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  Speaker 3: our fault.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: That is such a light bulb moment for me. It
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  Speaker 2: actually makes me feel a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Better because I have to admit, I am incredibly nosy.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't Dr. Phil just such a banger of a show though?
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  Speaker 2: Like I remember if you were sick from school and
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: you were able to watch that live, it was absolute bliss. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you'd go, it was like Dr. Phil, Oprah, there's ready,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: steady cook. Like you'd watch, I think you got to
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: about two o'clock or three when Huey's cooking show was on.
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  Speaker 2: And by that time, you'd almost watch too much TV
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: that you felt even sicker. Like you're like, oh, actually
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I kind of wish I went to school. Do you
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: remember at school, this is like showing our age, but
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: they used to wheel out the TV. Like it always
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: used to be mounted to something and they'd be putting
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: on some really boring like science video, but for a
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: second they'd have to turn it onto the live TV
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: and It.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Would always be Jerry Springer.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it would be Jerry and everyone's like, Stu, Stu, Stu,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: and all the kids like, no, please, can we watch this?
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: We don't want to watch Mathica's Math Shop or whatever
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: they were putting on. Our dad was such a legend.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: When we were in high school, he actually used to
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: tape Jerry Springer for us.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: And we'd all watch it with him. And Beauty and
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: the Beast, remember that?
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: That was like a panel of women and it was
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: like some controversial, yeah, like man that would read out
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: these questions. Also, I have flashbacks too. We used to
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: watch Judge Judy and also a spin-off which was called
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Judge Joe Brown and And at the end of the
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: court case, they would always interview the plaintiff outside and
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: they would talk about the result.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: And there was this one time where.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: They were doing a vox pop with the person and
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: all these people were pretending to walk in and out
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: of this court. And someone fell while holding onto the door,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: like trying to get through. We rewound and played this
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: so many times. Like why would they not have got
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: rid of that? That would have gone viral if TikTok
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: was a thing. I love the effort because you had
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: to like, you know, went back in the day when
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: it was a tape. You really had to like get
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: it to the right spot and press play. In terms
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: of just millennials being nosy, surely it trickles down to
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Gen Zers as well because they have all of those
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: shows plus social media. I don't know because I feel
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: like Gen Zers are almost, too cool to be that nosy.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Like they go with the flow. I don't know if
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I should talk about this.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: The influencer world is healing. Michael Finch and Sky Wheatley
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: are following each other again on Instagram. Michael has even
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: liked Sky's most recent post. This is, of course, off
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the back of Michael and Sharni Grimmond publicly hanging out
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: together again. Everyone got really excited a couple of weeks
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: ago when they posted a TikTok where they were casually
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: heading out to drinks and everyone's like, oh my God,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: does this mean they're going to be vlogging again? Does
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: this mean the whole band is going to get back together?
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: It's very interesting timing because we all know that Lily
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Brown's wedding, actual real wedding, is coming up in a
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: few weeks. Look, I don't think Skye Wheatley is getting
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: a Guernsey. I don't think her and Lily were ever
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: that close. Skye was only a part of that friendship
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: group because of her close connection to Michael. And I
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: was personally really thrilled for Skye because she has spoken
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: recently on her podcast about how upsetting this friendship breakdown
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: has been for her. So just for a bit of background,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: they had a falling out back in September 2022. And
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: that was after Michael shared a clip of Sky talking
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: negatively about OnlyFans creators in her vlog. How was this
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: four years ago? Because I remember covering this story in depth.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I think we were actually the ones who first reported
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: on the vision.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: It actually just blows my mind.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Now, at the time, Sky said that she would rather
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: earn money doing sponsored content than, I quote, being fucked.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: By a dildo.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: And she went on to say that she thinks OnlyFans
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: ruins marriages. Now, Michael didn't share his opinion on the topic,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: but simply said something along the lines of freedom of speech. Now,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Michael uploaded this vlog to his channel and the backlash
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: afterwards was swift. Sky hit out saying that she expected
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Michael to have edited that conversation out considering, you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: that they're friends and it was a private conversation. It
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: actually reminded me of the recent situation with Sam Guggenheimer
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: and Bill Barker, that drama around that fat phobic comment
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: that Sam left in her vlog.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: That hung out Bill to dry.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: The difference with that situation is in that recording that
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Sam chose to share, Bill said, please don't share that.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And she said, no, I'm going to share this on
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: my TikTok. Like when it came to Sky, Sky was
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: just going for it. She didn't even mention anything about
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: don't put this in there. Do you think people would
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: be as offended now in 2026? Like I still feel
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like we were in the peak of cancel culture when
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: that video came out. I genuinely think So much has
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: changed in the last four years, even though it seems
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: like yesterday that this comment was made. And yeah, I
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: don't think there would have been as much uproar about it,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: particularly because there has been a bit of a shift
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: in how celebrated OnlyFans creators are. I think back in 2020,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: everyone really got around them, but there has been a
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: bit of a shift since Bonnie Blue came onto the scene.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And how we view that morally. You're right, Kate.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I think that Bonnie Blue has totally changed the game
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: because people have been really appalled by the lengths that
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: she'll go to just to get more subscribers and the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: way that she has preyed on underage boys at schoolies.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: And even more recently, this whole pregnancy thing Yeah. And
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I think the cancellation of Anna Paul has also added
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Back to Skye and Michael.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's Michael who's made the first steps to
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: rekindle this friendship because Skye spoke in her podcast about
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: how Michael actually blocked her and she would love to
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: reach out and be friends again, but he's really stubborn
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: when it comes.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: To friendship breakdowns.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: So I'm assuming the only way that they've had this
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: refollow is for him to unblock her. Michael seems really
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: savage when it comes to friendships. Like he is definitely
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: known as the blocker. Like he's previously blocked Lily Brown.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It seems like he had issues with Shani. So I'm
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: wondering if he blocked her. I kind of love that though,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: because nothing feels better than blocking someone. I've done that
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to you guys a couple of times. It's just really
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: freeing feeling. And I just love how the person feels
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: when they try and look you up and they can't
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: see anything because I've had it done to me and
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it's a horrible feeling. I recently heard Matt Sikowsky talking
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: on TikTok about what a big deal it is for
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: men to actually block someone. So he caught up with
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: a friend of his who'd been seeing a girl and
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the guy's like, no, no, it's all off now. I've
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: actually blocked her. And Matt was like, what the fuck?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Like, what did she actually do to deserve a block?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: No shade to Matt, but he and Tammy used to
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: block each other all the time.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Or were we thinking it was Tammy that was blocking him?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: It was Tammy who was blocking him all the time, clearly.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: My husband has been known to block people, like people
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: he's no longer in a relationship with. But I think
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: it's more about protecting himself because he just doesn't want
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to see their stuff anymore. I think it's a bit
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: full on to block someone. I think unfriend them. But
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: when you block someone, it kind of seems like they've
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: done something really bad. Like say the person cheated on you,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: block them. But if things ended amicably, then why block them? Yeah,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I agree. I'm also the same when it comes to
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: removing photos of people. Sometimes it looks like you care
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: more if you remove every single evidence of that person
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: from your Instagram account.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: The most awkward thing, though, is.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: If you actually block someone and then you become friends again.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And it's super awkward having to do the unblock because
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: there's a bit to it. Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: And then having to re-friend them again.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I wonder if Skye and Michael ran into each other
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: in the wild and that's how, you know, they actually
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: got talking and that's why he's unblocked her. Or Is
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: he feeling sorry for her in regards to everything that's
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: going down with her at the moment and what appears
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: to be her breakup with Lockie War? Maybe they have
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: run into each other in the wild because sometimes when
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: you do see someone after years of no contact, you
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: suddenly realize how stupid the fight was to begin with
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and that you missed that person and.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It all seems very petty.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he's also been listening to her podcast
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: because she seemed really frustrated that she couldn't get on
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: to him. And maybe that was her bold statement to
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: get to him and to, you know, have that message
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: shared with him.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And he's gone, oh, okay.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think he's probably listening to the full podcast.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: He's probably just seen a podcast clip pop up or
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: one of their mutual friends has said, look, she's still
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: really affected by this friendship breakdown.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Why don't you just reach out to her? Maybe Sharni.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're friends again.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Do you think we will see Sky Wheatley hanging out
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: with Michael and Sharni?
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe she'll join in on their movie night. I reckon.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: single Sky Wheatley out on the town with Michael and
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Sharni would be epic. And I really hope that if
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: that's the case, she shares a lot of Instagram stories
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: about it. Okay, I am deep in nesting mode. And
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: today we're talking all things baby skincare. Tully Smythe has
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: surprised her followers by announcing the arrival of her baby girl. Now,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, followers were convinced that the
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: former Big Brother contestant and her dentist boyfriend, Ned Williams,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: were having a boy after they appeared to have a
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: blue color scheme at their baby shower. Yeah, they actually
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: found out the gender of their baby pretty early on,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: but they kept it under wraps. And at their baby
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: shower back in May, both Tully and Ned were wearing blue.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: The invites and events stationery also featured blue and blue
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: was a big part of the floral design. So people
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: were like, hang on, They've fucked up here.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: At the time Tully was forced to address the gender
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: speculation on Instagram, she wrote, all right, Inspector Gadget, calm down.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: It's 2026. Blue doesn't automatically mean boy. In all honesty,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I wanted to match the invites and floral inspo I
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: sent to Floss and Fleur and Ned bought his shirt
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: from Venroy at 10 a.m.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: The morning of.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: No more, no less, but you believe whatever you like
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: with the winking emoji. I reckon they were trying to
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: get everyone off the scent that it was a girl.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: So it's really Ned that's fucked things over though, by
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the sound of it, because he left this purchase to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the last minute.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Not surprising.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably didn't even know what the decorations were looking like.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Let's get into the announcement because it was very sweet.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: So Tully, of course, broke the news on Instagram writing,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Elkie Iris brought, you are the sweetest cherry on top
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: of the most delicious sundae And your mum and dad
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: are pretty chuffed that you chose us. When I saw
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: her announcement, I was like, why didn't I write something
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: cool like that? I just did the typical, you know,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the name, the date, how much they weighed.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: And now I realise.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: That I feel like that's really dorky to do, to
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: list the weight for some reason. I'm like, why did
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I do that? Am I like in the fucking 80s
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and 90s, like writing a newspaper advertisement about it? I
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: feel like it's all the oldies that want to know
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: those details, like the weight and length of the baby.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming some people don't share the date of birth
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: because they're worried about like identity theft. I mean, it's
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: interesting because before the birth of her daughter, Tully spoke
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: a lot about the internal battle she was having about
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: whether she was going to show her child's face on
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Instagram and she has decided not to. So it makes
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: sense not to share the birth date as well. Well,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: she said it was a real shame that she isn't
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: sharing her daughter's face because she said she's so cute
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: that she feels like she's robbing her followers of a
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: daily dose of perfection. And she revealed that her daughter
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: has Ned's lips and ears and Tully's big eyes and
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: they're both trying to claim her button though.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So she sounds absolutely adorable.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I totally get where Tully's coming from because I've decided
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: not to share my son online.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I shared him originally up to about.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: His first birthday and then I was like, I don't know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I just started feeling uncomfortable about it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because obviously he.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Is the most adorable, gorgeous human being I've ever seen
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: in my eyes.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I feel comfortable.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Like I'm robbing people of not sharing his beautiful photos.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, at the end of the day, no
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: one else really cares about your kids' photos, do they?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It's more like you need to do what you're comfortable with.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: And I'm just personally annoyed because I've got so many
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: funny videos of Jack that I think would just go
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: off on TikTok. Some of the things that he says
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: are actually hilarious. I know, because I personally love sharing
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: my son online. Like we have a bit of a
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: different viewpoint, which people might find interesting. Again, maybe as
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: he gets older, I might change my opinion. I think
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: that people are allowed to change over time. Anyway, getting
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: back to Tully, she has confirmed the pronunciation of her
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: daughter's name saying it's Elkie. And apparently this name has
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: been on her baby list for 10 years. And she
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: said that the couple loved it from the start because
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: apparently Ned has been trying to claim that this name
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: was also on his list and he thinks it was
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: on his list first. So it's pretty cute that it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: such a unique name, yet they both had it on
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: their lists.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: That is very cute. I mean, if your name is Tully.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: You can't have a baby that's called like Susie or something.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: It needs to have, you just need to have a
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: unique name. I think you mean Sarah. Sarah is like
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: the biggest 90s name.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Sarah and Jessica. Well, Tully said she always wanted an
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: original name.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: And because Ned's last name is Norwegian, they like the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: fact that Elkie sounded really European. And she also said
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: that she wanted to give her daughter a four-letter cool
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: girl name that can have a lot of nicknames. So
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: she thinks that her daughter can be called Elle or
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Ellie or Elle.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: If she wants.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: As someone who has a four-letter name, I didn't know
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: that four-letter girl names were cool. Maybe yours isn't cool, though,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: because I don't know how many nicknames you can have
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: from Kate.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Katie.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Now, as for Elkie's middle name, it is in honor
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: of Tully's mom, Kay, who sadly passed away of dementia
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a few years ago. And Tully explained that her niece
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: already has K as a middle name. So she chose
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: the name Iris as they were her mum's favourite flowers,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: which I think is so sweet.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: That's a beautiful touch.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And I like that it's a bit creative as well
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: because Elkie Iris goes really nicely together. Tully said Iris
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: was also good at softening Ned's last name of Rort.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: And I think it does a good job.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Now, the Blue Teak Brigade were, of course, out in
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: force to congratulate Tully. Olivia Rogers wrote, sweet angel girl.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: We love her so much already. While Lee Elliott wrote,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: oh guys, this is the most incredible news. Massive congratulations
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: and welcome to the world, Elkie. Lily Brown also wrote
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: a message. I had no idea they were friends. She wrote, yay, congratulations, love.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And Tully replied that she has been living in her
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: chill robes for all of.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Her nighttime feeds.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I've been hanging to hear Tully's birth story, but it
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: turns out we're actually not going to get it.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: So It's pretty interesting.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Tully said that when she was pregnant, she never wanted
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to hear anyone else's birth story. She said she didn't
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: really understand why there was such a fascination in them.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: If anything, she said she didn't want to actually put
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: any expectations on herself or become attached to one idea.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: She did reveal, though, that she had a C-section and
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: said her doctor was incredible. Now, her doctor was the
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: same doctor Steph Clare-Smith and Laura Henshaw both had. It
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: turns out that Tully actually bumped into Laura and Dalton
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: when they were on their way to an appointment. And
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: she was like, oh, who are you seeing? So she
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: ended up booking in with the same doctor. I feel
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: like there are these doctors to the stars or at
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: least that Melbourne clique aren't there. Oh, yeah. It's like
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: when Laura Henshaw in her birth vlog was like, oh, yes,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and Dr. Golley cut the umbilical cord. I'm like, what
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the fuck? I'm just surprised because as soon as I
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: had Harry, I became really invested in other people's birth stories.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Like it's one of those things that when you've gone
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: through it, you're like, tell me more. Like then what happened?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I wonder if because she had a cesarean, she saw
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the backlash that Laura Henshaw got when she spoke about
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: hers and thought, oh, I just.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Want to steer clear of it. Like maybe it's a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: way of protecting her peace.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And if that is the case, it makes me really
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: sad because I absolutely hated the way Laura Henshaw was
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: treated when she spoke about having her cesarean. Look, I
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: want to point out, she said she had a C-section,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: but she didn't say. whether it was an elective C-section.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I think that is an interesting point to make. As
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: for how Tully and Ned are going, Tully said that
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: it's been the best job in the world, writing, she's
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: my favorite collab, my favorite show, my favorite housemate, and
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: that she absolutely loves being a mom.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: My water's just broke.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: And we're all here.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Amy, this is your Roman Empire.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: For months now, you have been hyper fixated on Gold
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Coast influencer Tori Story's pregnancy. And this week, she gave
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: birth to her baby boy, Tate Jackson Edwards. A day
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: after the birth, the influencer made the announcement on Instagram,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: writing Tate Jackson Edwards, born 2.50am, 27.06, 26, 4.5 kilograms.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: We are beyond blessed and in love with our little man.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Now, she also made it sound like an old school
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: announcement that you'd have in a newspaper.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: That made me feel a bit better. I love an
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: old school announcement.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: As you said, Sophie, I have been hanging out for
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Tori to give birth. I was very much on birth watch.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: She'd been doing a series where she'd been counting down
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: the last couple of days of her pregnancy. And then
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, she went missing for 24 hours.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my God, she must be having
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: the baby. Well, you messaged me. You were like, oh
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: my God, she hasn't uploaded her daily quotes. Where's her
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: beach walk? Something must have happened. And it was very
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: unusual for her to be quiet for 24 hours because
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: as you said, Amy, in the lead up to giving birth,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: she launched a labor watch series on Instagram.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: And over the weekend, she.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Also uploaded a YouTube video entitled My Waters Broke. Now
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: in the video, She was documenting her final days of
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: pregnancy and she captured the moment that she went into labour.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Let's throw to the clip.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Yes.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Is it warm? Why is it warm?
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Well, because I can get from inside you.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Did I get.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Fit? Stand up. She's just.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Like, guys.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I was watching this with my husband and he was like, look,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: do we have to see everything? Like, can anything be private?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Because she was literally standing there in beige tracksuit pants.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: With the water all down her legs.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: It was pretty cute because she was actually having a
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: girl's night when her water broke and all of her
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: friends were jumping around and she was like, maybe I
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: should have a shower. Like, I think I should actually
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: start getting ready for this because we don't know how
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: quickly this baby's going to come. So this is not
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: just directed at your husband, but men in general, there
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: was nothing gross about it. Her pants literally looked like
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: water had poured down the front. It wasn't like there
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: was blood streaming out. Like seriously, if that's offensive, he
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: wasn't saying it was gross. He was more just saying,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Why are we picking up a camera during this point
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: in time? Should we maybe be starting to get ready
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to go to the hospital?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Brandon.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: But that is because people like me who have been
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: watching this whole journey, we want to be updated on
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: every second.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Tori's story is so real and raw.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: And I had actually been worried about her for quite
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: a long time because she has created a pregnancy series
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: on her podcast called Raw Reality. And she spoke in
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: depth about wanting to have a home birth with no
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: medical intervention if possible.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: So I was like, oh my God, is she okay?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Because she had a hypnobirthing coach on the podcast and
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: it was a really interesting chat to listen to because
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I am on the total opposite side of the viewpoint.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Like I'm, I wanted a C-section, you know, I believe
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: in medical intervention and I wanted every drug possible. I
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: listened to it too, Amy. And I was like, wow,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: this is really interesting. It just showed me how different
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: people are and everyone's birth choice should be respected. Like
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: for me, as you said, I wanted an elective C-section.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: For me, hypnobirthing is not my thing. Couldn't think of
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: anything worse. But I think that obviously we need to
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: respect other.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: People's birth decisions.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: While I'm, of course, supportive of whatever decision women want
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: to make with their own bodies. I think it was
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: hard to listen to that podcast after everything I've heard
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: about influencer Stacey Warnock's death. So she was an influencer
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: who very sadly passed away while giving birth a couple
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: of months ago. So she was free birthing and she
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: had someone there called a birth keeper. Now things went
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: horribly wrong and she didn't want to go to the hospital.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: She Obviously, Tori Story's birth plan wasn't exactly like her. No, yeah,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: she actually had a midwife who used to work as
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: a nurse in a hospital for like 20 years.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It was a very different experience.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And she said that she was quite reluctant to share
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: about how she actually wanted to.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Go ahead with her birth because.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: She was receiving really negative backlash. Now, what's interesting about
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Tori's story for, pardon the pun, is that she has
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: since said that her birth didn't go as planned. She's
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: yet to speak about it. But I'm wondering if she
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: had to have an emergency cesarean because she spoke about
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: how traumatic this birth was.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: For her, which is just awful.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so she wrote on her Instagram story, our labor
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: birth wasn't one we expected and was quite a traumatic
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: experience for everyone involved, which we will share when we
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: get the time. But for now, we're soaking up this bubble.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Mama is recovering and getting much needed rest and cuddles. Now,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: in the comment section of this birth announcement, Tori's mum
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: also wrote, My heart is overflowing. Watching what you both
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: endured during the labor was heartbreaking, but seeing the strength,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: courage and love you showed for each other was nothing
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: short of incredible.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Tori, I am proud of you.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: You dug deeper than you ever thought possible and brought
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: this little miracle into the world with such determination and courage.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: So it will be interesting when Tori does finally open
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: up about what actually went on with the birth.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I am very curious. I mean, this wasn't a small
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: baby either.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Like baby Tate was born at 4.5 kilograms, which absolutely
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: blows my mind. I think my baby was like three
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: months old when he weighed 4.5 kilos. Going back to
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Tori capturing the moment that her water broke for a second,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I want to point out that it was quite funny
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: because she actually received her brand new car that day
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: and she was going for a bit of a joy
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: ride with her friends. And all I could think was, gee,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that she's really glad that it didn't break
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: in the car because that car was in immaculate condition.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: The seats were like white. I just loved her mum
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: coming out because her mum lives with her and her boyfriend.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: She's like, oh my God.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: And everyone just had their phones out because they knew
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: how much Tori would want this documented. I found it
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: really fascinating to see the way that she shared about
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: this pregnancy and her subsequent birth. It sort of reminded
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: me of the way that Adelaide influencer Smiley Citrus shared
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: in the lead up because I think she also dropped
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: this labor watch series.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: And it's an.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Interesting tactic because quickly followers will pick up on when
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: an influencer has suddenly disappeared and there'll be more speculation.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, is the baby here?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: But it really obviously helps their engagement because people are
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: constantly checking in on their page.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: It's very clever.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And they know that at that point of their pregnancy,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: that is when they're going to get the most engagement,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: the most interest.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: That's when they can.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Probably get higher brand deals around that time. So it's
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: obviously a tactic of theirs. And it's one that I'm
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: seeing a lot of micro influencers doing. A lot of
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: big influencers don't need to do that. Well, in the
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: last 14 days, according to Social Blade, Tori has gained
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: over 6,000 followers. So it's obviously working for her.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot of.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Followers when you've got 60,000. Well, I think that is
• 37:25
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