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- 0:00It looks like around 99% of Western evangelical Christianity teaches the same basic secular vision of the family that we see within the Western culture.
- 0:11And one of the things we need to really tease out is, is this a biblical vision for the family?
- 0:16And so I'm always collecting thinkers who seem to have realized there's something terribly wrong about the way we're thinking about family,
- 0:23that it's not biblical, that it's not historical,
- 0:27and it is very unusual even in most places in the world today.
- 0:32Jenny Donnelly does a great job of breaking this down
- 0:36and how different this is.
- 0:37This is one of the most profound insights you could ever hear
- 0:40about the nature of the family,
- 0:41and this really gets to the very root of what is wrong
- 0:45with the modern Western family.
- 0:47Take a second, check out what Jenny Donnelly says
- 0:49about the nature of the family.
- 0:50The Jewish culture, African culture, Muslim culture, and American culture around family.
- 0:56I just was curious.
- 0:57What I found, all cultures except for the American culture, multi-generational, everybody's family.
- 1:03It's not, thanks mom and dad for raising me, I'm 18 years old, I gotta go live my life, you know, and I'll see you on holidays maybe, and when I feel guilty I'll call you.
- 1:12Because the American culture is out with the old and with the new.
- 1:15And it actually broke my heart when I started reading about this.
- 1:18I'm thinking, man, I don't want to be irrelevant in my own kid's life.
- 1:21My daughter just got married.
- 1:22I'm like, I don't want to be like, okay, bye.
- 1:25But in American culture, we break generations because we are focused on,
- 1:29this is the biggest difference between American family culture and most every other culture,
- 1:34is we celebrate, catch this, individual fulfillment.
- 1:37Individual fulfillment.
- 1:39I'll give an example.
- 1:39In the Jewish culture, they do not have Mother's Day and Father's Day.
- 1:42They only have Family Day.
- 1:44You are not celebrated for your independent role apart from what's actually the entity is family.
- 1:50So it'd be like me saying today I'm celebrating my hand.
- 1:53You are incredible.
- 1:54And I just want to honor you.
- 1:55No, not my foot.
- 1:56Your next month.
- 1:57This hand is incredible.
- 1:59See, we see everything separate.
- 2:01Mom, separate.
- 2:03Dad, separate.
- 2:04Child, separate.
- 2:05And so the Lord was telling me in order to do family well, we have to know what we're aiming for.
- 2:11All right, did you guys catch what Jenny Donnelly says there?
- 2:14She kind of breaks down these three critiques for the way that we see family, that all these other cultures see family as multi-generational, that there's a continuity between generations, that that's important, that that's really at the very nature of what the family is.
- 2:29One is chronological snobbery, right?
- 2:31Out with the old and with the new.
- 2:32There's an extreme bias in our culture for what's new.
- 2:35And this extreme bias causes us to really downplay the things that we could be getting from the past.
- 2:41And so this really sets us up for a terrible misunderstanding of family because a lot about what makes families really rich is our history, our heritage, and where we come from.
- 2:52This is why the vast majority of Americans can't name their great-grandparents.
- 2:56Some of us even might have met them, but we have a really hard time naming those eight people because they seem irrelevant, because they're a part of this ancient history that is totally not a part of our lives.
- 3:08She also talks about how there's a resistance to the culture of honor, right, that we just discard things in the past.
- 3:14And then she really lands on, I think, the most important critique, and that is the hyper-individualism.
- 3:20We are hyper-individualistic.
- 3:21Sociologists have said that American Western culture is the most individualistic society that's ever existed in human history.
- 3:27And so this is at the root of why family breaks down uniquely in our culture.
- 3:31This is why America has now become the number one country in the world for single-parent families.
- 3:37because in our culture, whatever the disease that's breaking on the family, we live in ground
- 3:41zero of that disease right here.
- 3:43And I think she really nails it with this idea of hyper-individualism.
- 3:47We think that the individual is always right.
- 3:48Now, part of why we need to kind of think through
- 3:51what's happening here is, and she talked about how we don't really know what we're aiming at.
- 3:55There's a confusion around the destination or the actual purpose of family.
- 4:00We think
- 4:01that a successful family in our culture is a springboard for individual success.
- 4:07So if you
- 4:07launch your kids out, then you have been a successful parent and that is a successful
- 4:12family.
- 4:13And that's why the nest is the best analogy for the Western family.
- 4:16That every 20 years,
- 4:18we just self-destruct, see you later, good luck.
- 4:20And we'll see you on Thanksgiving and Christmas.
- 4:22This is such a bizarre way to think about family and it's so fragile.
- 4:27It's going to break down so
- 4:28predictably.
- 4:29And so part of the reason why we know this is wrong isn't just because you look at other
- 4:33times in history, and they all would disagree with kind of the modern Western idea of family.
- 4:37And it's not because you look at other cultures around the world today, and they also disagree
- 4:41with the way we see family, and they have much, much more stable families.
- 4:45The main reason why
- 4:46we need to deal with this, if you're a Christian listening to this, is because the Bible itself
- 4:50gives us insight into exactly how God made the family, with the purpose of the family,
- 4:55what he made us for.
- 4:57Because we have in Genesis 1 a description of what God was thinking when he
- 5:00created the first family.
- 5:01In Genesis 1.28, when he made male and female, gave them his image,
- 5:04he says, he blessed them and says to them, be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth and subdue it,
- 5:08rule over my creation.
- 5:09And that five-part mission to be fruitful, to multiply, to fill, subdue,
- 5:14and rule, this is the thing that really gets to the essence of how we need to think about family.
- 5:19So we're going to talk a little bit about why this has to be multi-generational.
- 5:23We're going
- 5:23to look at different elements of this five-part mission and how it clarifies for us a blueprint
- 5:27for how to think about the family.
- 5:29But I think one of the things we have to take a big step back and say,
- 5:31how do you figure out what something really is designed to be?
- 5:36And I think you have to go back to the designer.
- 5:39This reminds me of a story I heard once about two people in an art museum,
- 5:42and they were looking at this gorgeous painting,
- 5:44kind of an impressionist painting of a flower.
- 5:46And somebody says, wow, that's an amazingly beautiful rose.
- 5:49And the other person was like, no, no, no, that is clearly a carnation.
- 5:52Can you see this, the way the petals are designed?
- 5:54And they just argue and argue and argue.
- 5:56and both of them are 100% sure that they're right.
- 5:59And all of a sudden, the painter walks in to that room.
- 6:03And guess what?
- 6:04Once the painter walks in, argument over
- 6:06because he or she will know the truth.
- 6:10They actually know what they were trying to paint.
- 6:13And this is what happens when you debate about family.
- 6:16Now, there should be a debate about the essence of family.
- 6:19Is it designed to be a nest or a team?
- 6:21Is it designed to be one generation or multi-generational?
- 6:24These are really important questions,
- 6:25But I think that part of what we have to do as Christians is understand that the author needs to come, the designer needs to come into the room and tell us the answer to this.
- 6:33Help resolve this for us, please.
- 6:35What kind of family did you want to design?
- 6:38And when you look at that basic way that he talks about the purpose of family, to be fruitful, to multiply, to fill, subdue, and rule, you have to ask yourself a series of questions.
- 6:48Did he, for example, assume that he was designing family to be one generational or multi-generational?
- 6:53He gave the family a mission that only could be accomplished through multiple generations.
- 6:56You can't fill the earth if you're Adam and Eve in one generation.
- 6:59He created an entity that was designed in its essence to accomplish a multigenerational mission.
- 7:05And this is one of the reasons why you see all through the scriptures, every family is multigenerational in essence.
- 7:11Like you see the continuity, the connection between fathers and sons.
- 7:15You see these family lines.
- 7:16You see beautiful stories like in the story of Ruth and Boaz, and it describes their genealogy as it gets to King David.
- 7:23or just why the Old Testament authors spend and spill so much ink over genealogies,
- 7:29because there's an obsession with we have to know the full story because family is in essence multigenerational.
- 7:34Now, we get incredibly bored and confused when we get to those kinds of passages in the Bible as modern Western Christians,
- 7:40because we're not going, wow, I can't believe in the Bible.
- 7:43I can see my entire multigenerational line.
- 7:46What a gift that God gave to Abraham's family to be able to trace their whole lineage in that way.
- 7:52Instead, in the West, we've been brainwashed into thinking that there is no better story than the individual story.
- 7:58We are incredibly hyper-individualistic.
- 8:00None of those things really matter.
- 8:02We think that as long as we're celebrating the individual, then that is the essence of a good story.
- 8:09That's the essence of the way that we should think about the world.
- 8:11and anything that would cause us to actually sacrifice for the larger group, for the family,
- 8:18for the team, there's something unhealthy, toxic, and it's lacking proper boundaries.
- 8:22Now we can experience this on a sports team because inside of a sports team, there is
- 8:29sort of its own set of rules.
- 8:31And so once you join a sports team and you have a coach there who's constantly encouraging
- 8:36you to sacrifice for the team, we can get into a state where we actually start to experience
- 8:42the values of family, the way family was actually designed to be.
- 8:45This beauty that comes when we
- 8:47don't try to constantly fight for what is best for us, but we're actually looking for what's best for
- 8:52the team as a whole.
- 8:54And so if you've ever experienced that on a sports team, and then
- 8:56you've actually experienced victory as a team, you'll know that there's absolutely nothing that
- 9:01as an individual that can really surpass or eclipse the celebration, the excitement,
- 9:07the wholeness that is experienced when you as a full team have all played your different roles
- 9:12and sacrificed together for the team as a whole.
- 9:15Now, Western culture really got the first part of
- 9:20individualism right, right?
- 9:22Part of what Western culture has said is that the individual must be
- 9:26sovereign, in other words, must be allowed to make the decision for themselves, and they must be
- 9:33allowed to follow their specific individual conscience.
- 9:37And I think that that was a huge
- 9:39leap forward, that we should not coerce individuals to force them to be on teams, to force them to
- 9:46play a collective game.
- 9:48The problem is, where we really got off track is that then we said the
- 9:53individuals should do what's in their best interest.
- 9:57So what we should do, part of what I
- 9:59think makes a very healthy culture is to give that and admit that the individual does have that
- 10:04sovereignty, and then to call the individual to voluntarily make sacrifices for the team.
- 10:10So this is what needs to happen in every single family.
- 10:12In every single family, you need to build
- 10:14up the individual and then call them to a life of sacrifice.
- 10:17That's beautiful.
- 10:18Now they could
- 10:19always say no to that call.
- 10:20They can say, no, I want to do what's best for me.
- 10:22And that freeloader
- 10:23mentality will start to unmake that team if they're not able to overcome that sin, right?
- 10:30That idea that I am most important and this has really got to be primarily just about me.
- 10:35And so part of what this has caused us to do in our culture is to think that we are playing a
- 10:39single player game, that life itself is really a single player game.
- 10:44Naval Ravikant said this,
- 10:45he said that, look, life is a single player game.
- 10:48You're born alone and you're going to die alone.
- 10:51And that's not really true.
- 10:53You're born into a family.
- 10:55You live your life with a family.
- 10:58And if things go well and that team really coheres, then you'll likely die surrounded by your family.
- 11:05There is an individual component to life that's very important and needs to be preserved.
- 11:09But the goal is to move from individualism into the team itself and to be a part of that larger team.
- 11:16Now, I was super confused about this.
- 11:19I was raised in the Seattle area where I saw so much hyper individualism and family was breaking down because the fathers and mothers were all sort of fighting for their individual rights.
- 11:31There was no real culture of team.
- 11:33And so the kids growing up in that culture were like, what in the world?
- 11:36Family is just this thing that's broken and just as ridiculous.
- 11:40And we need to get away from this.
- 11:41And this is why Seattle became the first city in the country to have more dogs than children, because so many people were trying to find ways to get out of this thing that they were locked into, this family that was so stifling because it just kept breaking down.
- 11:56It basically presented a promise and just repeatedly did not fulfill that promise.
- 12:03And the promise of family that I want to talk through is really threefold.
- 12:06The first promise that it has is stability.
- 12:09It is so important that our families fulfill that promise for the sake of our children and future generations.
- 12:17We need to provide stability.
- 12:19The reason why a husband and wife make a lifelong covenant to stay together until death do us part is it creates the environment where maximum sacrifice can be made by the individuals for the team so that you can experience the maximum life as a team.
- 12:36Now, we don't understand that any longer.
- 12:39We don't understand why this stability needs to exist.
- 12:42We think, well, this is for me as an individual, but the problem is it's really holding me back from other things I might want to experience as an individual.
- 12:49And so we continue to, after making a covenant, try to use this thing called the family to launch our own individual lives as far as possible.
- 12:57We're thinking about ourselves first.
- 12:59And when the family no longer meets my needs the way I wish it would, then it then becomes healthy for me to separate myself from that family and go and try to find other communities or a new family or a new spouse.
- 13:14So this lack of stability really comes from a lack of understanding the nature of the family, that the team is what we're trying to aim at.
- 13:20And if you're just trying to use the family in that way, you're going to constantly be incompatible, right?
- 13:26Being selfish is always incompatible with another selfish person.
- 13:30These things never work together.
- 13:32The only way for you to begin to experience something where you're actually cohering as
- 13:38a team is through sacrifice, right?
- 13:40And it's that sacrifice that creates the stability.
- 13:43The second reason why we want to be forming family teams is because the impact of the
- 13:49multi-generational family far exceeds anything individuals can do by themselves.
- 13:55So we need to experience the power of the impact of multigenerational families because they can really go into the world through generations, through centuries of working on a similar mission together.
- 14:09That these, again, need to be taken up voluntarily by individuals in every generation.
- 14:15But when the individual sees themselves as a part of this larger team and that the impact of that team is greater than what they could ever do as an individual, they begin to become excited about being a part of that and saying, that's ultimately where I want to spend my life.
- 14:28Now, part of the problem is we are struggling with what I think of as Little Mermaid syndrome, right?
- 14:33Which is you constantly are being told in this culture that your family is holding you back, right?
- 14:40So she starts to have these desires in that movie, The Little Mermaid, that are not exactly aligned with her father, with their family.
- 14:49And instead of telling a story where these desires are explored and then brought back into the family, you see the story moving in a linear fashion.
- 14:58So Eastern stories tend to be more cyclical.
- 15:01They have beginning, middle, new beginning, where everything kind of comes full circle.
- 15:06Western stories that create hyper individualism are linear.
- 15:09They go beginning, middle, end.
- 15:11And so you are moving into a different direction.
- 15:13And so ultimately, there's no reintegration of Ariel with her family.
- 15:18She is desiring to be on land and she is saying goodbye to her family and there's not even a promise of maybe we'll see you again someday.
- 15:25It's like it is over.
- 15:26She is off living her own individual life and there is no reintegration or full circle idea there.
- 15:34And that is a perfectly told Western story.
- 15:37And that's the kind of story that destroys the family because it creates intuitions that say that I'm more important.
- 15:45there is no reintegration in the family.
- 15:48The impact that we can do as a larger family team
- 15:50is nothing compared to what I can do as an individual.
- 15:52And the only thing the family can do is let me go.
- 15:55Let me go, let me go.
- 15:57And that's what we believe at a deep level.
- 16:00But the third thing,
- 16:01and I think the ultimate thing
- 16:02that I would really encourage you guys
- 16:03to sort of dial into when you're wrestling with this
- 16:06is the beauty of the multi-generational family story.
- 16:09It is so much more beautiful than the individual story.
- 16:12The epic nature of stories,
- 16:14And I absolutely love watching movies or shows that really show how three, four, five generations are pieced together.
- 16:23So you can sort of track the beauty of that story.
- 16:26It is so incredible to have at the same table and in a part of the same team, people that are from three, four generations who remember generations before them and are seeing the generations after them.
- 16:38And if you don't sense the depth of beauty when it comes to encountering a multigenerational family, you need to be exposed to these kinds of stories because they're so much more powerful, so much more beautiful.
- 16:49And I think that we really need to begin to tell these stories.
- 16:52And I am seeing more examples of this, right?
- 16:55There was back in the day a movie like The Godfather that kind of hit the world in a really powerful way because all of a sudden there was this depiction of three generations.
- 17:06And you sort of see, even in the brokenness of this crazy crime family, the connections between the different elements of the family.
- 17:14And so father and son meant something very different than what we think father and son mean in our culture.
- 17:21The way we tend to think about it is a father and a son is something that happens with little children, now with an adult son.
- 17:28And there's something far more beautiful about the connection.
- 17:31And you're seeing so many shows that really highlight the adult children's relationship with parents.
- 17:38And, you know, there's all kinds of complexity there.
- 17:40But oftentimes what you start to sense deep down in your heart and in your soul is there's something more beautiful about these stories.
- 17:48I remember when my grandmother came, my kid's great-grandmother, to our Sabbath dinner, and she was spanning seven generations of our family while she was at our table.
- 17:59She could remember three generations that came before her.
- 18:01She was seeing four generations of our family.
- 18:04And the sense of meaning at that table when you begin to see these connections between generations is so intense.
- 18:11And I think that part of what will really help restore the idea of multisensory family to our Western culture has to come from really sensing the beauty.
- 18:20So if you want to go deeper into this, we like to walk people through kind of step by step exactly what it looks like to begin to think about family in this way.
- 18:28So you can go over to familyteams.com slash transform.
- 18:30We have just a five-part little mini course where we like to talk about what are these big epiphanies that really cause people and the tools that go with them to begin to transition the way they think about family because we have so much muscle memory around these Western ideas of kind of the one-generation nest idea of family.
- 18:48So go over to familyteams.com slash transform if you want to go deeper into that.
- 18:51And then we're going to keep going further into the ideas, both in the Bible and in the culture, in sociology, to help us understand how to recover a much healthier understanding of what a family really is.