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Bonus Episode: Music and Monsters · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig
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Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
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Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: we are talking about our new episode on Houdini with
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Speaker 1: the Red Hot Chili Peppers making in appearance. We're rewinding
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Speaker 1: back to our Norwegian black metal in Misfits episodes for
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Speaker 1: the Halloween season, previewing next week's brand new episode on
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Speaker 1: Judas Priest, talking about one of the worst humans ever
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Speaker 1: right now, a crap singer from a crap band, and
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Speaker 1: we get into your voicemails, text, dms, and as always,
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of rosie. This is the podcast for
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Speaker 1: the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know
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Speaker 1: that the best history is the history that gets buried.
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Speaker 1: Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told,
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Speaker 1: the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos,
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Speaker 1: let's get into it, all right. This prison, it holds
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Speaker 1: criminals so notorious they call the prison the Monster Mansion.
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Speaker 1: It's filled to the brim with predators, the worst of
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Speaker 1: the worst, serial killers, cannibals, rapists, and the criminals are
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Speaker 1: too depraved to be held in general population. Yes, for
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Speaker 1: fear of what they'll potentially do to others, but more
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Speaker 1: out of fear of what will be done to them. Now.
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Speaker 1: There's a hierarchy in all prisons, and England's Monster Mansion
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Speaker 1: not only holds the worst of the worst, it also
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Speaker 1: holds the lowest of the low. And this is where
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Speaker 1: lost prophets ex singer the convicted pedophile Ian Watkins, was
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Speaker 1: murdered last week. On the morning of October eleventh, as
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Speaker 1: the cell doors were unlocked and the prisoners were allowed
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Speaker 1: to move about, two prisoners ambushed Ian Watkins in his cell.
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Speaker 1: One of them stabbed Watkins in the neck with a shank,
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Speaker 1: reportedly hitting his jugular. Blood went everywhere, spewed violently quickly
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Speaker 1: covered the cell. The alarms blared and for a minute
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Speaker 1: chaos ensued before guards got controlled the situation. The bloodshed
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Speaker 1: was described by a source on the scene as horrific,
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Speaker 1: with blood everywhere, and that the event was quote shocking
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Speaker 1: even by prison standards. The forty seven year old Ian
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Speaker 1: Watkins was quickly pronounced dead, His two attackers were apprehended.
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Speaker 1: His fans, his groupies, yes, he still has groupies, even
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Speaker 1: young ones who still correspond with him in prison. His
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Speaker 1: ex bandmates and his victims. We haven't heard from any
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Speaker 1: of them, aside from a fairly narcissistic ex post from
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Speaker 1: Lost Prophets guitarist Lee Gaze using this occasion of Ian
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Speaker 1: Watkins's death to lament the downfall of their band from
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Speaker 1: thirteen years ago, due to, of course, Ian Watkins's depray
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Speaker 1: to crimes. In twenty thirteen, Watkins pleaded guilty to attempted
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Speaker 1: rape and sexual assault of a child under thirteen. He
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Speaker 1: also pleaded guilty to three counts of sexual assault involving children,
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Speaker 1: to six counts of taking, making, or possessing indecent imagery,
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Speaker 1: and one count of possessing an extreme pornographic image involving
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Speaker 1: a sex act on an animal. One of this Dude's
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Speaker 1: victims was a two year old boy, a two year
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Speaker 1: old boy, the son of one of his girlfriends, a
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Speaker 1: woman that the singer once texted saying, quote, if you
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Speaker 1: belong to me, so does your baby unquote. Let that
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Speaker 1: sink in. There's been a reason that I haven't covered
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Speaker 1: this story. A lot of you have written me before.
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Speaker 1: I get an email about this every couple months or
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Speaker 1: so and have for years. And I hate this shit,
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Speaker 1: I really do. And it's it's so dark, it's so
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Speaker 1: depraved that you know I've done Uh, I've done similar
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Speaker 1: episodes in the past, as you know, on some really
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Speaker 1: dark stuff. And you know, when you're researching it, you're
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Speaker 1: just in it in your fucking head. Man. It's like
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Speaker 1: it take it takes a beating, Your soul takes a beating.
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Speaker 1: It's it's tough for me, and I know everybody's different.
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Speaker 1: It's tough for me to have my head in places
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Speaker 1: like this, Uh, deeply in places like this for a
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Speaker 1: long periods of time. And uh, you know, for some
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Speaker 1: it's not you know, you know, it's funny. I was
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Speaker 1: I got this buddy who's an ex New York City cop,
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Speaker 1: and uh, I was talking to him a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, and he was just you know, I asked him,
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Speaker 1: you know, we're we're at a party and and things
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Speaker 1: had kind of lightened up and we were getting that
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Speaker 1: we were getting heavy on some stuff, and I asked
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Speaker 1: him about some of the worst things that he'd seen
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Speaker 1: when he was a cop in New York and he
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Speaker 1: retired very young, and you know, I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: repeat what he told me, but the fact that this
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Speaker 1: guy's not traumatized by it is just it's astonishing to
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Speaker 1: me that some people can compartmentalize these types of experiences,
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Speaker 1: this type of information. And again, everybody deals with it differently.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of you have asked me to cover
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Speaker 1: this horrific story and I haven't done it. I was
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Speaker 1: planned on doing it, though, and I'm now going to
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Speaker 1: for sure, now that there's a real ending here, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to get into it. But it's so dark, and
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Speaker 1: especially that that quote gives you a taste of how
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Speaker 1: dark it is. If you belong to me, So does
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Speaker 1: your baby just a special kind of evil. During the
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Speaker 1: investigation into Ian Watkins's crimes, authorities got a hold of
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Speaker 1: his laptop and they figured out that his login password
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Speaker 1: was I fuck kids. I mean. A senior investigator assigned
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Speaker 1: to Watkins's case said that Ian Watkins was quote potentially
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Speaker 1: the most dangerous sex offender he'd ever seen. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm gonna tell this story, but
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Speaker 1: I'm going to. I want to know more about why
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Speaker 1: he was killed. There's no word yet on why Ian
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Speaker 1: Watkins was murdered. Now many are assuming that it's prison justice.
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Speaker 1: It's back to what I was saying earlier about the
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Speaker 1: hierarchy in prison. You know, convicts cleaning out the lowest
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Speaker 1: of the low from among their ranks. However, in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty three, not that long ago, a couple inmates took
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Speaker 1: Ian Walkins hostage in jail and beat and tortured him
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Speaker 1: for six hours. Now, this had nothing to do reportedly
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Speaker 1: about Ian Watkins's crimes, the crimes that led him to jail,
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Speaker 1: the abuse. It was reportedly over a drug debt. Ian
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Speaker 1: Watkins was an addict. He's got a lot of experience
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Speaker 1: and out of jail with drugs. So I don't know
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Speaker 1: why he was killed. I don't think anyone does right
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Speaker 1: now as of the recording of this episode. But we're
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Speaker 1: going to find out and we're going to do an
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Speaker 1: episode on this, and we're going to find a way
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Speaker 1: to do it that isn't completely sensationalized and it gets
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Speaker 1: to the evil at the heart of this singer from
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Speaker 1: the band Lost Profits. Details are still emerging from this case,
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Speaker 1: you know, as we get them in, we'll start putting
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Speaker 1: this together, putting the research together on Like I said,
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Speaker 1: Ian Watkins from Lost Profits Disgraceful Crimes in a full
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Speaker 1: episode soon. This is one of those stories, as I mentioned,
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Speaker 1: many of you have recommended even before Ian's death, and
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Speaker 1: there's a course a lot about this story that is
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Speaker 1: hard to digest, but I don't know, just I believe
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Speaker 1: it's important to cover the worst of the worst, and
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Speaker 1: this is one of those reminders. Is Halloween season that
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Speaker 1: true monsters walk among us. Ian Watkins from Lost Prophets
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Speaker 1: is about as disgraceful a musician that I've come across
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Speaker 1: in all of my years doing this. He deserves a
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Speaker 1: special place in whatever the haull of disgrace is. He's
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Speaker 1: up there with the worst of the worst. Like I said,
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Speaker 1: up there with the Spade coolies, Big Lurch. Truly a bad,
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Speaker 1: bad man, an absolute monster, and that's you know, that's
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Speaker 1: part of the whole this whole season, this whole Halloween
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Speaker 1: thing that we're doing. There's the fun side of it.
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Speaker 1: There's the sort of comic book side of it, the
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Speaker 1: Freddy Krueger Jason Voorhees side of it, and then there's
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Speaker 1: the the real evil side of it. And we know
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Speaker 1: what side of the street this Sean Walkin's story is on.
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Speaker 1: I want to kind of slowly start to turn the
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Speaker 1: ship now toward the more fun side of the street here,
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Speaker 1: because you know, it's just a better hang. Like I said, monsters,
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Speaker 1: this guy was a monster. Monsters. They come in all
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Speaker 1: shapes and sizes, the real life monsters like Ian Walkins,
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Speaker 1: and the make believe kind, the less literal, the more
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Speaker 1: literary types of monsters. It happened to me, be more
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Speaker 1: fun when this month rolls around the ones in our fiction,
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Speaker 1: in the horror movies that we watch, and yes, in
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Speaker 1: the songs that we listen to, especially during the Halloween season. Now,
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Speaker 1: this has been a big topic around here, these parts
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Speaker 1: scary music, spooky music. I should say we did. We
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Speaker 1: did a bunch on it last week. We're gonna take
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Speaker 1: a different road into the into that subject today similarly
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Speaker 1: but not that different, but not exactly the same either.
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Speaker 1: Kind of running with this theme of of this monster
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Speaker 1: theme here, Zeth and I will be ticking through some
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Speaker 1: music recommendations of our favorite monster songs in the exclusive
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Speaker 1: section of this episode in a bit, and I promise
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Speaker 1: you that our recommendations will be tunes that you've likely
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Speaker 1: never heard. We're not gonna be recommending the Monster Mash
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Speaker 1: or Godzilla by Blue Oyster Cull, even though I love
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Speaker 1: both of those songs. You're gonna be getting tunes that
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Speaker 1: will make great additions to your October listening routine. And
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Speaker 1: like I said, it'll be real monster fair both literal
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Speaker 1: and literary. Okay, tunes that you're not gonna get anywhere else.
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Speaker 1: Tunes that will pull on your gen X heartstrings. Okay,
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Speaker 1: tunes that will make you long for an era long gone,
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Speaker 1: an era you are either part of a miss dearly
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Speaker 1: or missed and want to feel like you were there
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Speaker 1: and want to live in it. Nineties era Monster music recommendations,
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Songs about the worst of
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Speaker 1: the worst from the nineteen nineties coming up in the
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Speaker 1: a break and I'll be back in a flash with
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Speaker 1: your voicemails, texts and emails. Yes, yes, yes, welcome back,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Welcome back. This week, if you've been dialed
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Speaker 1: into your disgrace sland feed, you heard our episode on
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Speaker 1: Houdini with a freaky styly guest appearance by the Red
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Speaker 1: subscribers they got the miniapp Did you all right? Coming
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Speaker 1: up next after this episode, we are continuing our romp
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Speaker 1: toward All Hallows Eve with classic Creepy Crawley rewind episodes
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Speaker 1: this week on the Norwegian black metal scene, and also
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Speaker 1: on one of the greatest bands to ever do it,
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Speaker 1: the Misfits next week, coming at you, those leather clad
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Speaker 1: Birmingham defenders of the Faith the Mighty Judas Priest, our
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Speaker 1: new episode on Priest. The band's origins, the relationship to
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Speaker 1: the whole safe Tannic panic thing that overtook North America
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Speaker 1: in the eighties, how the band got roped into that
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Speaker 1: disgraceful PMRC delio with Tipper Gore, and the suicide pack
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Speaker 1: lawsuit that threatened to ruin the band. That and a
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Speaker 1: whole lot of hot leather daddy action that you're not
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Speaker 1: gonna want to miss in our next episode on Judas
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Speaker 1: Priest coming up next week in your Disgraced Land feed. Now,
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Speaker 1: when you're listening to this episode on Priest, I want
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Speaker 1: you to be thinking about, well, this is an easy one.
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Speaker 1: I want to know who, in your opinion, is the
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Speaker 1: greatest metal band of all time and I want to
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Speaker 1: know why. Okay, Judas Priest part of the first generation
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Speaker 1: of great metal bands along with Black Sabbath, and this
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Speaker 1: episode deals with the question of who the greatest metal icons?
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Speaker 1: Who were they? Judas Priest in my estimation is definitely
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Speaker 1: one of them. But are they the best? Are are
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Speaker 1: they better than Black Sabbath? Can he give it to
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Speaker 1: them over Black Sabbath?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I yeah, we'll talk about it more next week six
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Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six three. Call me, send
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Speaker 1: me a text, lead me a voicemail, and let me
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Speaker 1: know who your metal icons are, and you know why
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Speaker 1: you love them, What they do for you, how they
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Speaker 1: make you feel, how you relate to their music, their lyrics,
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Speaker 1: their heaviness, how these bands, these artists compel you. I
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Speaker 1: want to know heavy music. I have a special place
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Speaker 1: in my heart for heavy music, and I know a
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Speaker 1: lot of you do as well. And even if you're
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Speaker 1: just one of these fly by night heavy music fans
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Speaker 1: like whatever, Like you're you're into what you're into and
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Speaker 1: it's not heavy, and who gives a shit? Right, hollod
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Speaker 1: o Its is cool even though they're not heavy metal. Right,
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Speaker 1: So you're at the you're at the football game or whatever,
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Speaker 1: and you know, just that song comes on by Metallica
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Speaker 1: or by I don't know, I don't know, I mean
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Speaker 1: Auzy whoever? It is, right, but it gets you going, right,
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Speaker 1: hockey fans, you know what I'm talking about that audio
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Speaker 1: Slave song comes I can't stand it. I don't like
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Speaker 1: audio Slave, but if I'm in a Bruins game an
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Speaker 1: audio Slave comes on, I'm like, all right, I'm listening.
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Speaker 1: What's this? What's the music that does that for you?
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Speaker 1: The heavy music? Let me know? Six one seven nine
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Speaker 1: oh six six six three to eight voicemail and text.
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Speaker 1: All right, speaking of calling me, I'm in the phone
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Speaker 1: both right now. It's someone across the hall. I'm hanging
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Speaker 1: on the telephone, which means it's time to hear from
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Speaker 1: you guys on last week's question of the week via
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Speaker 1: your voicemail and text. And that question was which songs
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Speaker 1: spooky out? Which tunes give you the hebgbis what music
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Speaker 1: is must listen for you around this particular time this season,
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Speaker 1: the spookiest time of year. The five to two oh
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Speaker 1: writes in Hey Jake, first time writing in It's Halloween,
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Speaker 1: so I haven't heard you even mentioned the genre of psychobilly,
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Speaker 1: the perfect mix of can't be spooky halloween rockabilly. Checkout Necromantics,
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Speaker 1: horror pops and coffincats too well. Listen five to two oh.
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Speaker 1: We just dropped last week. I know it's not strictly psycleobilly,
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Speaker 1: but we just dropped our Cramps episode in the feed
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Speaker 1: a little rewind taste for you. Go check that out,
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Speaker 1: all right, Obviously there's a psycho billy connection there, and
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we do an okay job of explaining
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Speaker 1: that connection in the episode. Haven't listened in a while,
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Speaker 1: but it's available for you at the top of your feet,
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Speaker 1: that Cramps episode. Go check that out, give it a spin.
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Speaker 1: Four one two. Has nobody mentioned Frankie teardrop by Suicide
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Speaker 1: as the scariest song ever? If not, consider it mentioned
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Speaker 1: scary as fuck? So scary I can't listen to it
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Speaker 1: all the way through. I may also be a punk
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Speaker 1: ass bitch, though, so there's that too. Four one two.
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Speaker 1: You know, I read punk ass Bitch, and I guess,
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Speaker 1: you know, it kind of makes sense with Frankie Teardrop,
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Speaker 1: But I was like, hey, these are harsh words. And
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Speaker 1: then I scrolled up here in the text thread history
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Speaker 1: you've texted a couple times, and uh, I was like,
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Speaker 1: who's this dude writing punk ass bitch?
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Speaker 2: And it appears.
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Speaker 1: From this earlier text where you say what's up, Jake,
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Speaker 1: it appears you're a woman. Okay four one two, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna quibble. I guess with your
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Speaker 1: you know if you're saying punk ass bitch also appears
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Speaker 1: at your Pittsburgh Pirates fan yinser's what's up? How did
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Speaker 1: so many of you end up in our audience? I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but I love it? Keep it coming seven
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Speaker 1: seven five, writes in say, since you have two Judas
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Speaker 1: Priest songs on your list of great Halloween songs, why
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Speaker 1: not make it three? Beyond the Realms of Death from
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Speaker 1: Stained Class is one of my all time fave priestudents.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear all about stay in Class in this
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Speaker 1: Judas Priest episode seven seven five that we've got come
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Speaker 1: in your way next week eight one six rights in garage. Uh,
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Speaker 1: they're making fun of my voice. It's okay. You want
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Speaker 1: to make fun of someone with a someone's accent? That
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Speaker 1: is that cool? Is that what we're doing?
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Speaker 2: Now? Just goes my kid?
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Speaker 1: Make fun of me all you want. Terry Sadler emails
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Speaker 1: us subject terrifying tunes message in Every Home a Heartache
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Speaker 1: by Roxy Music, Psycho by Eddie Noak, Genie's Afraid of
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Speaker 1: the Dark by Dolly Parton and Porter Wagoner the best
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Speaker 1: rock a Rolla Terry Terry, Thank you, Terry's terrifying tunes.
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Speaker 1: I love this. I love this because I only know
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Speaker 1: one of these songs. I know Psycho if it's the
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Speaker 1: one I'm thinking of. I know the Leon Payne Elvis
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Speaker 1: Costello one. You dig I'm Psycho, don't you Mama? That one?
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's the same one, because it feels like
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Speaker 1: you're on a country tip here. You got every in it. Well,
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Speaker 1: I don't know every home in Every Home A Heartache
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Speaker 1: by Roxy Music. I don't know that tune. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I actually heard a Roxy Music song this morning, came
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Speaker 1: on randomly, and I thought to myself, I need to
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Speaker 1: I need to listen to more Brian Ferry, more Roxy Music.
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Speaker 1: So I appreciate this. Genie's Afraid of the Dark by
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Speaker 1: Dolly and Porter. This sounds awesome. No idea what this is,
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Speaker 1: but it sounds like, yeah, I kind of know I
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Speaker 1: know where they're going with this. That's so that whole
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Speaker 1: country politan kind of We're gonna get scary on you here.
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Speaker 1: Some one's dying, that's all I'm saying. I bet you
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Speaker 1: someone died and Genie's Afraid of the Dark, Terry's terrifying tunes.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate the email, guys, you want to email me Disgrace
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Speaker 1: Lampod at gmail dot com. You want to hit me
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Speaker 1: up on the socials, that's at Disgrace Lamppod. Marissa del
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Speaker 1: Gatto writes in Hey Jake, longtime listener, the best spooky
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Speaker 1: ban of all time is Queens of the Stone Age.
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Speaker 1: Have you listened yet to Live at the Catacombs. It's dark, wet, drippy,
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Speaker 1: spooky and haunting, and they are keeping rock and roll alive.
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Speaker 1: And I wrote back to her, I'm husband yet, but
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Speaker 1: I need to thank you. Was listening to Queen's yesterday
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Speaker 1: at the gym and I think I hurt myself. That's
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Speaker 1: a true story, ladies and gentlemen. And Marissa went on
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Speaker 1: to say, get the vinyl light of Candle in the
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Speaker 1: Dark and listen to it loud. It's like you can
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Speaker 1: hear the spirits all right, Marissa. I dig that New
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Speaker 1: York City hardcore legend. Gavin van Vlack writes in Halloween
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Speaker 1: song Bela Lugosi's Dead Bawhus. I gotta admit and I
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Speaker 1: admitted it to Gavin bajaus is A is A. It's
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Speaker 1: a whiff for me. Man, It's a black hole in
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Speaker 1: my musical knowledge. I know I've heard this song before,
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Speaker 1: but I can't say that I'm familiar with this whole thing.
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Speaker 1: Gavin also recommended Sisters of Mercy Vision thing all right, Oh,
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Speaker 1: and then ghost Town by the Specials. Ghost Town by
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Speaker 1: the Specials. I know we've got that record on. It's
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Speaker 1: currently pulled out in our living room sort of vinyl
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Speaker 1: turntable area. It's not mine though, it's my son's, and
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Speaker 1: I didn't buy it for him, got it himself.
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Speaker 2: I like that, all right.
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Speaker 1: Let's check out this voicemail from the four eight Oh.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, this is Jessica and the four eight oh
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Speaker 3: longtime listener, first time caller. Hopefully I'm not too late
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Speaker 3: for the after party. Question about the spooky story, but
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Speaker 3: my old house was very haunted. Lots of strange occurrences
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Speaker 3: happened there. The worst one, however, was one time my
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Speaker 3: oldest son was about two or three years old, and
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Speaker 3: I was measuring him against a growth chart that we
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Speaker 3: had on the wall, and all of a sudden, he
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Speaker 3: got this really scared look on his face. And he
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Speaker 3: clung onto my leg and I said, oh, buddy, what's
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Speaker 3: the matter. And he said, there's a man and I said,
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Speaker 3: he said right in back of you. There was nobody there,
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Speaker 3: and I completely froze and then ran out of the room.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, definitely one of the more spooky occurrences there.
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Speaker 3: But thanks again for a great pod.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the spooky story, Jessica. Happy to hear that
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Speaker 1: everybody's all right. You want to send in more spooky stories?
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Speaker 1: Keep them coming. We're talking about that a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, but you want. I love it. I'm here
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Speaker 1: for it. That's what That's what October is for. Keep
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Speaker 1: them coming, guys, nine one three Texans, Sabbath forever. It's
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Speaker 1: cruel and usual to ask such a broad question, but
22:49
Speaker 1: if there's a gun to my head, I'm blasting war pigs.
22:51
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Ozzie. Thank you. Love the show, especially
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Speaker 1: the Halloween episodes. Madison Miller Casemo responded to Madison, I said, hey,
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Speaker 1: you got it. Hope you dig the Judas Priest episode
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Speaker 1: coming up on Tuesday, and then Madison responded, sorry, I
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Speaker 1: think you might have the wrong number. I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: who this is. Madison it's Jake. It's Jake texting from Disgraceland.
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Speaker 1: Come on Madison, Screaming Lotus emails us disgracelamdpod at gmail
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Speaker 1: lot about your podcast my music students and have turned
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Speaker 1: listening guys and exclusive content like the conversation Zeth and
24:03
Speaker 1: I are going to be getting into fairly shortly, but
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Speaker 1: right now I'm gonna take a quick break back in flash.
24:24
Speaker 1: You know, I got almost forty eight hours of sports
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Speaker 1: fan blists this week. The Patriots won. Drake May look great,
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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, I'm convinced is the right coach. I watched
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Speaker 1: up up in the New England area, back in my hometown,
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Speaker 1: sat in a big living room with my stepdad and
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Speaker 1: my son, and my brother in law and his family
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Speaker 1: and just a bunch of dudes from New England sitting
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Speaker 1: around watching the Patriots. I can't explain how fucking awesome
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Speaker 1: that felt to do. I haven't done that in a while.
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Speaker 1: Just you know, it's real shitty out. It was ra
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Speaker 1: and on Sunday it was just you know, that kind
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Speaker 1: of made it even better.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why, it just did.
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Speaker 1: Just felt very familiar to me. And the Pats won
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Speaker 1: and it was fantastic, and I flew home and you know, now,
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Speaker 1: just you know, I was walking through the world yesterday
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Speaker 1: thinking how great it was to finally have a football
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Speaker 1: team that doesn't suck again, and just how you know
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Speaker 1: excited I am about this whole Drake May Mike Rabel thing.
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Speaker 1: And then bam this morning, get hit with this Red
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Speaker 1: Sox news so listen before I get into it. This
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Speaker 1: sixty second sports rant and under thirty seconds is once
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25:43
Speaker 1: Give me that ticker, you know. After the Red Sox
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Speaker 1: ended their season, most every Sox fan sitting here going
25:50
Speaker 1: we overachieved this year, all right with this roster. This
25:53
Speaker 1: is super young team. This team has glaring holes that
25:56
Speaker 1: need to be addressed in free agency. The front office
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Speaker 1: needs to bring another picture, another starting pitcher, by the way,
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Speaker 1: a stud, a real number two, if not a second ace.
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Speaker 1: No sniffing around the margins with the ghost of Tommy
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Speaker 1: John's triple a cousin. We need a real arm and
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Speaker 1: we need a real bat. Just one more big bat.
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Speaker 1: Go get us Pete Polar Bear a Lonzo, bring back
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Speaker 1: kyleeg Schworber. And then, and then, and then we get
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Speaker 1: this news this morning that Alex Bregman is most likely
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Speaker 1: opting out of his contract and heading to free agency.
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Speaker 1: So now the Red Sox not only have to have
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Speaker 1: a stud pitcher and free agency come their way. They
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Speaker 1: also got to get that big bat still, and then
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Speaker 1: they have to re sign Alex Bregman. I can tell you,
26:38
Speaker 1: can I prehet the Red Sox for something that they
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Speaker 1: haven't done yet, because I can almost all but guarantee
26:45
Speaker 1: you that this pathetic, yes I said it, pathetic front
26:49
Speaker 1: office doesn't make all three of these moves. There's no
26:52
Speaker 1: way at best they'll make two. And if they do,
26:56
Speaker 1: I guarantee they're going to use those two moves to
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Speaker 1: justify not making the third move. Because that's typical of
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Speaker 1: this front office, the Red Sox in the past decade,
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Speaker 1: the way they work. They find ways to justify being mid.
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Speaker 1: They find ways to spin us the fan base, into
27:12
Speaker 1: believing that they actually care about competing with the Yankees
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Speaker 1: front office when they don't. They really don't. We're just
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Speaker 1: a line it and we're a bigger part of a
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Speaker 1: bigger business. It's going to be a long offseason. I'm
27:25
Speaker 1: telling you that right now, just like this was a
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Speaker 1: long sixty second sport rant and under thirty seconds.
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Speaker 2: Matt one forty six, Jake.
27:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well them's the breaks. That was The Sports ran
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Speaker 1: that the true crime is just our own unique way
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Speaker 1: True crime is just our lane in. It's our excuse
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Speaker 1: to talk about music and to talk about movies that
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Speaker 1: we love. Sometimes though, we just want to talk about
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Speaker 1: great music and great musicians and great movies and great
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Speaker 1: actors and actresses. Okay, just because some great musician didn't
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Speaker 1: commit some awful crime or have some awful crime happen
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Speaker 1: to them, or some great actor or actress you know,
28:26
Speaker 1: same thing, doesn't mean we don't want to talk to them,
28:28
Speaker 1: all right, Zeth Lundy, doctor Lundy, to you and to
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Speaker 1: me over in Double Love Us is Hollywood Land. Feed
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Speaker 1: has been killing it lately with this ongoing conversation about
28:36
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Speaker 1: But anyways, back to what I was saying, we Zeth,
28:51
Speaker 1: myself and all you guys, sometimes we just want to
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Speaker 1: talk about the music and the movies that we love,
28:57
Speaker 1: even if we don't have a crime angle. And since
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Speaker 1: Zeth has started over in Hollywood Land, he's had some
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Speaker 1: pretty major icons die on his watch, Robert Redford a
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and most recently Diane Keaton, and Zeth,
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Speaker 1: being the talented doctor that he is, has found this
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Speaker 1: unique skill in paying tribute to these giants of the screen.
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Speaker 1: If you want to hear what Zeth has to say
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Speaker 1: about Diane Keaton, who, make no bones about it, was
29:24
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Speaker 4: I got to take a second and talk about the
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Speaker 4: late great Diane Keaton, who we just lost a few
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Speaker 4: days ago at the age of seventy nine. Sometimes I
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Speaker 4: actually forgot that her name was Diane Keaton and just
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Speaker 4: call her Annie Hall, because her entire persona, her style,
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Speaker 4: it was so entwined, at least in my mind, with
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Speaker 4: that great role she played in the nineteen seventy seven
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Speaker 4: What He Allen film, the film that earned her her
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Speaker 4: Academy Award for Best Actress. Her maiden name actually was Hall.
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Speaker 4: She changed it to Keaton, which was her mother's maiden name,
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Speaker 4: when she joined the Union, and there was already another
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Speaker 4: actress registered under the name Diane Hall. But Woody Allen
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Speaker 4: wrote that role for her, and so I've got to
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Speaker 4: think that the character was in many ways an echo
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Speaker 4: of the real Diane Keaton, just like Woody's character in
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Speaker 4: many ways as an echo of him. This was, of course,
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Speaker 4: five years after her big break as Kay and the Godfather,
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Speaker 4: a role she won out after Francis Ford Coppola auditioned
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Speaker 4: something like a hundred actresses. And this role, the role
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Speaker 4: of Kay, is so different from Annie Hall. I mean,
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Speaker 4: there's so much that Diane Keaton is doing in this movie,
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Speaker 4: but doing it low key. I mean, the whole movie
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Speaker 4: is in her face at the very end when Michael
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Speaker 4: lies to her and then the door shuts on him
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Speaker 4: as he's becoming the thing he never wanted to be,
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Speaker 4: which is basically the devil. But it's all in her face,
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Speaker 4: Your your entire understanding of what's happened, of what's just
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Speaker 4: happened over the course of the two plus hours, what's
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Speaker 4: going to happen. You see her seeing this and you're like,
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Speaker 4: oh fuck. It's one of the greatest non veriable pieces
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Speaker 4: of acting, of reacting ever on screen.
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Speaker 1: All right, that's the Hollywood Lamb Podcast. Make sure you're
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Speaker 1: music from the nineties about the worst of the worst,
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Speaker 1: the monsters, the slack demons, the creepers who give us
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Speaker 1: Aside from Black Sabbath, I don't know that we mentioned
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Speaker 1: any artists that we've previously covered in Disgrace and Today.
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Speaker 1: I guess that means that we're pretty forward thinking, pretty
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Speaker 1: forward looking, I should say. Maybe it also means we
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Speaker 1: need new episodes on Sisters of Mercy, maybe port his
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Speaker 1: in the All Access section. Matt will have the Black
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Speaker 1: Sabbath episode details in the show notes of this after
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Speaker 1: part if you want to easily find that story. Right now. However,
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Speaker 1: we are going to recap number one. This week's full episode,
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Speaker 1: Rewind episodes coming out right after this after party on
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Speaker 1: Diane Keaton in this week's Hollywoodland Wrap Party episode number
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Speaker 1: a community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books,
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Speaker 1: records in the crime and grime that ties them all together,
33:44
Speaker 1: like you do. And well that's a disgrace, all right.
33:48
Speaker 1: On September twenty fourth, nineteen ninety one, the Ghost of
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Speaker 1: Houdini's housemates, the Red Hot Chili Peppers released their excellent
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Speaker 1: album Blood Sugar, Sex Magic with a K. Here's what
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Speaker 1: Billboard Charts. Number one, I Adore Mia More, Color Me Bad.
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Speaker 1: Last week two weeks on chart nine number two. Good
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Speaker 1: Go Everything you see and see Your Music Factor Call
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Speaker 1: You last week's last five, last weeks on charts and
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