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Jaguars Happy Hour | James Gladstone Joins 2025 Free Agency Special · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March thirteenth.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars Happy Hours brought to
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  Speaker 2: you by dream Finders Homes and now a guy's still
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  Speaker 2: dangling in free agency jap shock.
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  Speaker 1: Well come in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by
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  Speaker 1: dream Finders Homes, official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. A
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  Speaker 1: busy hour ahead. GM James Gladstone in studio, Jags free
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  Speaker 1: agents arrived today, spoke with the media. We'll hear from
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  Speaker 1: some of those guys coming up and we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: Oh what's next? Free agency off and running. The new
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  Speaker 1: league year is here. We're on TENJENXL Jaguars dot Com,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube, JP Shadwick with Jeff Logaman. Jeff, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to you in a little bit. That'd be great. The
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  Speaker 1: GM is sitting with us till Lord James James Gladstone,
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  Speaker 1: how are you good up? Thanks for coming in. Life
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  Speaker 1: is good.
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  Speaker 3: It's good to see you book again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good to see you too.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations on your first free agent class as a general manager.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a blast. Just getting a chance to
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  Speaker 3: be in the bunker, so to speak, with our scouting staff,
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  Speaker 3: our coaching staff and football admin really see the vision
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  Speaker 3: for the pro free agent class come to life and
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  Speaker 3: be executed in the way that it was. Was certainly,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just a moment of pride just to see
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  Speaker 3: a group of people, you know, working together and doing
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  Speaker 3: something that we felt like was moving the needle on
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  Speaker 3: the future of the franchise.
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  Speaker 4: How was the dynamic of the whole free agent approach?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, because you know, just a matter of a
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  Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, you just got in and then
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  Speaker 4: the coaches kind of just got in a lot of
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  Speaker 4: new How did that work?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was full speed ahead from the moment we
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  Speaker 3: arrived in Indianapolis. We had a chance to sit down
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  Speaker 3: with both our scouting staff and coaching staff get an
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  Speaker 3: idea of what that pro free agent landscape looked like.
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  Speaker 3: We get back here to Jacksonville and we dive right
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  Speaker 3: back in and really honing in our priorities, what positions
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  Speaker 3: specifically which players within them. And then you know, on
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  Speaker 3: the day of there's a lot of uncertainty that comes
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  Speaker 3: with you know, how's this going to look? Once the
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  Speaker 3: bell rings at noon Eastern and pro free agency at
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  Speaker 3: least the legal tampering period begins and what's it going
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  Speaker 3: to be come you know, midnight tonight, because unlike the draft,
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  Speaker 3: you're looking at a group of players who are you know,
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  Speaker 3: they have the ability to say, you know what, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to go somewhere else or we're going to sign
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  Speaker 3: up to be with you, as opposed to just sending
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  Speaker 3: the card in and now that player is you know,
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  Speaker 3: on your roster in the draft. But it was well
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  Speaker 3: executed and a pleasant surprise to see that the nine
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  Speaker 3: players that we walked in the door that day being
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  Speaker 3: interested in acquiring ended up on our roster as of today.
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  Speaker 1: It's gotta be a challenge though, when you're in the
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  Speaker 1: negotiating window right you can only talk to agents at
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  Speaker 1: that point. You can't talk to players until the start
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  Speaker 1: of the league year at four o'clock on the twelfth.
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  Speaker 1: So familiarity has to come into play, and it certainly
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  Speaker 1: did with some of the guys on this list that
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  Speaker 1: you brought in, guys that either Liam has had before
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  Speaker 1: you've been around in LA. Does that help the learning
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  Speaker 1: curve a little bit for a player that's already kind
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  Speaker 1: of been in either your organization or the coaches.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt that familiarity plays a major role,
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  Speaker 3: and it was a part of why we sort of
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  Speaker 3: tilted in favor of some players over another because at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, while those players on their own have familiarity,
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  Speaker 3: it also allows another voice, another player in the room
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  Speaker 3: with everybody else of their position group, be able to
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  Speaker 3: sort of bring to life some nuances outside of just
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  Speaker 3: a position coach, a coordinator or the head coach making
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  Speaker 3: mention of different elements that come along with this system.
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  Speaker 3: And so that definitely played a major role, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that was reflected in a number of the decisions
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  Speaker 3: that we made and seems fairly logical at where we're
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  Speaker 3: at for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm guess some of the guys that weren't in
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  Speaker 1: the organization before an organization with somebody before, it just
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  Speaker 1: kind of it shows up on tapes so much that Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this guy is a player, We got to go get
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  Speaker 1: this guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've been saying this. We met with
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  Speaker 3: the players today individually. It was Tony, myself and Liam
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  Speaker 3: and and we walked through the vision that we had
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  Speaker 3: for them, the class, the profree agent class as a whole.
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  Speaker 3: And the term I kept I kept saying to them
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  Speaker 3: was that your film was speaking to us, and it
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  Speaker 3: was calling us. And none of these players, you know,
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  Speaker 3: weren't in the conversation, you know, solely for their film.
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  Speaker 3: They were also vetted through sourced information that spoke to
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  Speaker 3: who they were as people. And I think I've touched
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  Speaker 3: on it a lot over the weeks that i've been
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  Speaker 3: general manager, that we're hunting up in tangibly rich players
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  Speaker 3: and people and that's what all of these guys fit.
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  Speaker 3: We're not going to invite anybody into this ecosystem that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't meet the thresholds that we set. And they're prepared
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  Speaker 3: to raise the standards at their position, group, their set
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  Speaker 3: of the ball, and the team as a whole. And
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  Speaker 3: so we're really excited about the group that we got
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  Speaker 3: and feel like, you know, the veteran presence and a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the rooms is going to make a difference.
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  Speaker 4: The one term that you're using their vetted is so
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  Speaker 4: important because you're making a significant investment in people and
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  Speaker 4: you have a pool of money as an organization to
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  Speaker 4: be able to spend and making sure that that investment
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  Speaker 4: has a return is imperative. And I love you using
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  Speaker 4: that term there. And this free agent class, if you
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  Speaker 4: count it up to guaranteed money, It's not huge compared
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  Speaker 4: to other And I've always been a big believer that
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  Speaker 4: the lifeblood of any franchise is the draft itself. Is
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  Speaker 4: that your belief as well. I mean that you have
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  Speaker 4: to be able to draft the future for a football team.
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  Speaker 3: It is and I've talked about it a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Haven't spent a ton of time on the idea that
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  Speaker 3: we will be a franchise that intends on building through
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  Speaker 3: the draft, and a higher volume of draft capital is
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  Speaker 3: what we're going to be looking to acquire. And obviously,
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  Speaker 3: just walking in the door, that's what we had to
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  Speaker 3: begin with with twenty picks. Over the next two years,
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  Speaker 3: we've added another. We're now at twenty one following the
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  Speaker 3: Christian Kirk trade, and you know, we look forward to
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  Speaker 3: working through that process here over the coming weeks and
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  Speaker 3: the lead up to the draft day. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: this pro free agent group, really our intent was to
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  Speaker 3: make it so that we were able to answer a
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  Speaker 3: lot of questions at certain positions, so that we walk
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  Speaker 3: into the draft and don't feel as if we're pressed
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  Speaker 3: to prioritize one position over the other. Give us the
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  Speaker 3: flexibility at each pickpoint to go whichever decision we deem
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  Speaker 3: best for the franchise at that point, and I think
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  Speaker 3: that that's something that we were able to accomplish here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but basically kind of fill in some holes. So
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  Speaker 4: draft the best available player for you guys out of
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  Speaker 4: this free agent class. How many do you expect to
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  Speaker 4: be starters out of this group?
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  Speaker 3: I think everybody's competing for a starting spot. So we
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  Speaker 3: got nine guys walking in the door, and all nine
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  Speaker 3: are competing for that time will truly tell. Right now,
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  Speaker 3: we're doing a lot of talk. I can't wait to
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  Speaker 3: see those guys bring our vision for them to life
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  Speaker 3: on the grass. And really, all of them have earned
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  Speaker 3: this right. It's not like they haven't gotten to this
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  Speaker 3: point without producing on some way, shape or form, And
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  Speaker 3: so I think they all want to carry their momentum
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  Speaker 3: that they have that was entering this pro free agent
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  Speaker 3: window onto the grass as well.
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  Speaker 1: And do their part.
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  Speaker 3: And something that we echoed to them was doing more
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  Speaker 3: than just simply being who they are. We wouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: prioritized them if they weren't the right person and player
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  Speaker 3: for us, and so we're not going to ask them
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  Speaker 3: to be anything more than simply who they are.
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  Speaker 1: James Glad's doing with US Jaguars GM on Tinton Excel,
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to the offensive line pre agents that were
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  Speaker 1: signed here. Mcarry Hainesy a dogba. I mean, these guys
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  Speaker 1: all have a track record. It was something around here
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  Speaker 1: at logs and we talked about this all last season.
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  Speaker 1: Just a short yardage of physical mentality. Seems like these
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  Speaker 1: guys all have that. And what stands out about those
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  Speaker 1: three guys specifically upfront?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'll start inside out and with Robert
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  Speaker 3: Hainsey right. Obviously, the familiarity in Liam's system is a
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  Speaker 3: major plus. I think you got an entire offensive line
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  Speaker 3: a quarterback behind him who's going to be learning something new.
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  Speaker 3: So the conductor, the communicator of the offensive line being
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  Speaker 3: familiar with all that is going to accelerate that process
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  Speaker 3: for us. At the same time, he's coming off a
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  Speaker 3: season where Buccaneers drafted a first round pick at the
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  Speaker 3: position he ends up winning the starting job. Robert only
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  Speaker 3: gets one op last season to start, and it was
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  Speaker 3: against the New Orleans Saints. I would urge anybody that's
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  Speaker 3: listening to go ahead and watch that game and determine
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  Speaker 3: for yourself if that player is intangibly rich or not.
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  Speaker 3: And he is hungry, he is interested in taking a step.
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  Speaker 3: He has earned this op through the course of his
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  Speaker 3: four seasons with the Buccaneers and isn't intending on slowing
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  Speaker 3: down at all. Beyond that, you got Patrick McCarry, who
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  Speaker 3: is uh, you know he is.
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  Speaker 1: He is.
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  Speaker 3: A background right as someone who was underappreciated coming out
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  Speaker 3: of college and earning his way into being the most
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  Speaker 3: versatile offensive lineman in the NFL. Started for Baltimore last
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  Speaker 3: year at guard and is going to be placed on
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  Speaker 3: the interior to begin his career. Hearer's tenure here with
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars, and really that versatility was something that we
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  Speaker 3: weren't going to overlook. There's always attrition across that position
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  Speaker 3: group over the course of a season, and so with
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  Speaker 3: him being able to move from one spot to the
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  Speaker 3: next on a dime is going to be something that
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  Speaker 3: we leverage for sure. And then with Chuma, obviously Tony
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  Speaker 3: coming from usc that was a.
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  Speaker 1: That was a given. We're gonna end up with one Trojan.
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  Speaker 3: The cool thing with Chumah, right, he's been a Arny
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  Speaker 3: Men more so than the other two. Gone from one
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  Speaker 3: club to the next, really found some footing in Dallas,
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  Speaker 3: and he learned from some you know, some from some
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  Speaker 3: Hall of fame ol and I think he grew a
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  Speaker 3: lot when he was there. But getting back to what
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  Speaker 3: speaks on film, each game that Chumas started this past season,
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  Speaker 3: he was walking onto the field with the idea that
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  Speaker 3: he was going to set the tone early and there
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  Speaker 3: wasn't a first snap where he wasn't playing through the whistle.
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  Speaker 3: He was always doing his part to make his presence
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  Speaker 3: felt with his opponent. And so that was something that
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  Speaker 3: really jumped out to us, and we look forward to
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  Speaker 3: him being another versatile beast that can go inside and
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  Speaker 3: out and compete there at the tackle spot.
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  Speaker 4: I look forward to watching the film on those three
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  Speaker 4: guys and to stay on that side of the bald
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  Speaker 4: Diamie Brown. The Washington Commanders obviously had a lot of
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  Speaker 4: change over the years, ownership, coaching and everything else. And
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  Speaker 4: he's a very young player that really hadn't had necessarily
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  Speaker 4: a stable environment until this past year to really develop.
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  Speaker 1: And here he is.
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  Speaker 4: I thought this year the look at the numbers, he
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  Speaker 4: excelled particularly at the end of the year last year.
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  Speaker 4: Is that what you're excited about with him is that
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  Speaker 4: how all of a sudden he's kind of starting to
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  Speaker 4: peek at the end there at his time in Washington.
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  Speaker 3: I think we feel that he feels that he wanted
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  Speaker 3: a one year deal and he wants another crack at
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  Speaker 3: it this season, build off the moment momentum that he
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  Speaker 3: had towards the end of last season and get another
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  Speaker 3: op to get a payday a year from now. And
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  Speaker 3: he's walking into an opportunity where you know he's going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to get some balls thrown his way,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's vertically down the field, stressing the third level
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  Speaker 3: of a defense, or quickly in the short game. Knowing
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  Speaker 3: that Liam comes from, you know, a train of thought
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  Speaker 3: that the screen game is can be a really effective
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  Speaker 3: mode of operation, and Diami's ability with the ball in hand,
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  Speaker 3: he's unflinching when he finds a lane, and so we're
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  Speaker 3: really excited about activating that while also expanding his skill
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  Speaker 3: set beyond what he's already showcased in Washington. I did
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  Speaker 3: tell him today, I was like, I'm me the least
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  Speaker 3: surprising thing for the Los Angeles Rams was that you
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  Speaker 3: became a Jacksonville Jaguar Because dating back to the time
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  Speaker 3: that he was coming out in the draft, I believe
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  Speaker 3: it was twenty twenty one, he was somebody that I
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  Speaker 3: was very interested in, thought very highly of.
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  Speaker 1: So I get a.
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  Speaker 3: Text from a general manager with the Rams on Monday
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  Speaker 3: at about three pm that said, I should have known
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  Speaker 3: in a screenshot of my evaluation, which which read.
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  Speaker 1: I'll pull it up real well, that's by the way
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  Speaker 1: for people that are wanted the GM of the RAMS,
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  Speaker 1: which you worked underneath it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I know it off the top of my head.
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  Speaker 3: It was a certified deep threat with the capacity to
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  Speaker 3: become so much more.
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  Speaker 1: And that was it. That was the evaluation.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how many characters that is definitely would
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  Speaker 3: fit in a tweet, that's for sure, but speaking to that,
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  Speaker 3: so there is a belief that Diami is in a
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  Speaker 3: position to take another step in his career and we're
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  Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing that come to life. He's looking
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  Speaker 3: forward to being more than us this talk and get
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  Speaker 3: out on the grass. He was walking around the facility
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  Speaker 3: with a ball in hand already, so he's jacked up.
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  Speaker 3: He's excited.
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  Speaker 1: Final couple of minutes with you. Here two defensive signings.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis a cornerback. Eric Murray comes from the Texans.
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  Speaker 1: But both these guys played a lot of football over
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  Speaker 1: the years, and Murray with a couple of different teams
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  Speaker 1: and the Houston the last few years. Jordan Lewis playing
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  Speaker 1: his whole career with Dallas. But tell us about the
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  Speaker 1: mindset of those two guys that have seen pretty much
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  Speaker 1: everything in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with both of them, I think they
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  Speaker 3: raised the floor of the defensive backfield. Their experience, their
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  Speaker 3: veteran presence, their leadership. It's going to be something that
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  Speaker 3: really impacts our defense in a positive way. Now with
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  Speaker 3: going into Monday, the bell rings it at noon, right,
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  Speaker 3: if you would ask me, hey, which of these players
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  Speaker 3: do you feel most confident that will end up being
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  Speaker 3: a Jaguar by the end of the day and least
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  Speaker 3: confident in being a Jaguar at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 3: Surprisingly enough, Jordan Lewis was somebody that I was a
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  Speaker 3: little less confident knowing that he had spent his entire
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  Speaker 3: career in Dallas and whether or not we would be
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  Speaker 3: able to pull him away from those guys because I
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  Speaker 3: know that they really value him both on and off
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  Speaker 3: the field, and we really valued him for both of
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  Speaker 3: those perspectives as well, and ultimately he was the first
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  Speaker 3: player that we got a deal done.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: So again, guys, I can be wrong every now and then.
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  Speaker 3: I don't get them all right, But that worked out
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  Speaker 3: in our favor. Glad that it did. You know, his
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  Speaker 3: level of intensity, his coverage capacity, his doggedness is something
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  Speaker 3: that we're really excited about. And he's really excited to
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  Speaker 3: step into a veteran role with a lot of younger
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  Speaker 3: guys around him that he can help expand their understanding
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  Speaker 3: of the league and tap into his experience to really
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  Speaker 3: bring him along. And then Eric Murray's somebody who's coming
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  Speaker 3: off a really really strong season in Houston, obviously familiar
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  Speaker 3: with the division and the landscape and can be in
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  Speaker 3: that same breath of a leadership role for a safety
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  Speaker 3: unit that we think is bound to take another step
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  Speaker 3: off the heels of last year.
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  Speaker 4: With those two guys, you mentioned some stories and background
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  Speaker 4: and familiarity with the guys on offense. Any familiarity with
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  Speaker 4: those guys on defense or is it just an evaluation
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  Speaker 4: or is there any story background?
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of familiarity with Jordan, in particular, when
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  Speaker 3: I was with the Rams, we tried a number of
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  Speaker 3: times to sign him as a pro free agent, which
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  Speaker 3: is why there was some hesitance around whether or not
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  Speaker 3: we were going to be able to land him. Happy
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  Speaker 3: that it worked out the way that it did. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, offensive coordinators around the league identify him as
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  Speaker 3: somebody that they always have to account for, and so
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  Speaker 3: I know Sean McVay being intimate with him, he was
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  Speaker 3: always spoke very fondly of Jordan as a defender and
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  Speaker 3: that certainly carried some weight with me in this process,
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  Speaker 3: knowing what he can mean for our defense and really
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  Speaker 3: how he's going to influence coaches in their preparation to
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  Speaker 3: face us.
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  Speaker 1: Final thought with you here, I know you're always looking
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  Speaker 1: to evaluate the roster and upgrade the roster. That's always
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  Speaker 1: going to be the case moving ahead. Since we're in
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  Speaker 1: the new league year now, But what is your focus now?
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  Speaker 1: Is it more geared toward NFL Draft time coming up?
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  Speaker 1: All that's not too far away now? Since you got
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  Speaker 1: the first wave of free agency done, what's next on
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  Speaker 1: your docket?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, this is the entertainment business. We still got the
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  Speaker 3: window here pro free agency if we want to entertain
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  Speaker 3: a few moves, so time will tell on whether or
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  Speaker 3: not anything comes to life. Remember, I'm going to just
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  Speaker 3: drop this again intangibly, Rich, is what we're up If
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  Speaker 3: you can look out across the pro free agent landscape
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  Speaker 3: and identify who might be in the elite thresholds there,
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  Speaker 3: those guys are on our radar, and beyond that we
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  Speaker 3: are diving into the draft and preparation there. Look forward to,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: you know, having those conversations with our scouting staff and
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: coaching staff really starting next week around some of the
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: initial player lists that we've pushed out and really see
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: what comes to life in those conversations.
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  Speaker 4: Last question for me obviously the draft being right there
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: in the near future, and we've mentioned vetting with veteran guys,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: and veteran guys you have a little bit more of
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: a track record and there's something here, There's stories that
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: you can gain through their time as a pro. How
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: important is it the vetting process for the college players
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: and how difficult is that?
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: It's critical to the process and understanding who these people
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: are off the field and their commitment to the game
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: of football is going to be something that weighs heavily
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: in our decision making come draft day, and not all
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: that information is public knowledge. So there are players that
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: you know, we'll pass on because they don't meet the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: standards of source information that we've received really in most
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: part from the people who have lived with those individuals
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: to date on their college campuses, at their hometowns, high schools,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: all those sorts of things. So that'll carry a lot
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of weight in our decision making, and we'll
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: mirror that with the on field talent and really our
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: vision for what can be brought to life come next fall.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: But really looking forward again to that process and diving
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: in with our college scouting staff here soon as they
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: are currently on the pro day circuit, and we'll be
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: off the road by the end of the month and
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: able to provide some insight and updates off the heels
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: of that.
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  Speaker 1: James, thanks for the time, congratulations on the free agency class,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and we'll do it again soon.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Hopefully appreciate the time as well, James.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Ladstone, Jacks GM with us. We're back with plenty more
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  Speaker 1: in a moment on ten ten XL, Jaguars dot Com
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and Jaguars YouTube. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. But then
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of you potential and opportunities here. You know.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I think looking at the roster, looking at the coaches,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: hearing what they're trying to do here, that's something I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of the change, you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and I hope I could do my part. I want
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: to do my part. I want to win football games
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and get that done. It's James McCarey. Oh gosh, it's
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: not his name, Patrick McCarey. Card from the Ravens. Jack
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: look for Slack. My apologies raven So you'll just learn
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a nine names. There's nine of these guys. Welcome back.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm JP Shadwick. That's Jeff Blogger,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: but thanks to James Gladstone, Jaguars general manager. We're on
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: ten XL, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube from studios at
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• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Fresh from Florida. It's always in season, you know. There's
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: nine of these guys, right, and a lot of free
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: agent windows logs. We know this really well. Over the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: last number of years, we won a lot of off seasons, right,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you know, usually it'll be like a splash name or two,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and then you fill it in with a few other
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: guys and you pay a bunch of money to two
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: or three guys. Well, they've evened it out this year.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: There's nine guys. There's nobody really breaking the bank. You're
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: not getting a you know, big name that's on NFL
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Network and top tier and all this stuff. But these
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: are guys that can come in and help your football
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: team right away really well. And I asked him question
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: how many he viewed as starters, and he said, they're
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: all going to come in and compete for starting jobs.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: But one guy, Jake People probably well, he can compete
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: all he wants. Nick mullins, I don't think he's gonna
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: win the starting job. And he's backup quarterback.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: He's brought in from Minnesota, which is fine, which is
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: great because he actually is going to have I think
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: some familiarity which is great with the system.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: He was there in Miniso of coordinator perfect so I
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: think that really helped the quarterback room. And then Hanes
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: his familiarity with the system with Liam Cohne and Tampa
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: also prodes another one that's going to help. I think
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: the quarterback and I get familiar with the system. But
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, just looking at the free agent class,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I mean probably four starters. I mean, if I'm guessing,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: you know, and I can tell you who you think.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: So Eric Murray safety, Okay, you're not signing a guy
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: in his tenth year unless he's probably going to be
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: a starter, especially for twelve million guaranteed dollars. Yeah, I
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: mean that's I think you could say that he's going
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: to be a starter.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: McCarry McCarry. McCarry is the proper pronunciation. JP. You talked
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to him at him on the way out of the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: press conference today and he said, mcarey.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a starter. I don't
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: know where because he's so versatile. I mean, I think
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: he can play inside, he can play outside, but I
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: envisioned him as a starter.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: James Ladstone just said interior O line. Okay, what that means.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: And then Hainsey, which he talked about the job that
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: he did against New Orleans as a center. I think
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Hainesy's going to be a starting center, and then McCarry
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: be a starting guard.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know which side that would be.
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  Speaker 4: Idoga is probably going to be a guy to come
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: in and compete for maybe one of those other interior
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: spots or swing tackle, maybe a tackle, you know, maybe
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: compete for a starting job at tackle. Look, the reality
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: is when you got a new staff and a new
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: general manager coming in there, there's no givings. And when
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: he said they're all going to come in and compete
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: for a starting job, that is true, I think all
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: across the board, with the exception of the quarterback position,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: which there's a reason why Trevor has been the starter
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: here for a while and has a quarter billion dollar contract.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Diami Brown I think is going to have a great
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: opportunity to be a starter. Christian Kirk was traded, but
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: again he's going to have to come in and compete.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: There are some guys that are currently on the roster
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: that are I think going to have an opportunity to
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: have something to say about that. Jordan Lewis, I think
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: is the star, hands down, not even fat and I
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: especially when you listen to James Gladstone talk about him
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: and that they tried to get him before in LA
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: weren't able to do that, and how that Jordan Lewis
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: changes the way that offensive coordinators approach a game that's
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: not very There's not very many people in the league
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: that do that, and that I think says speaks volumes
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: about him.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: He's a nickel too and can do that. He's not
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: just a nickel, yes, but he he started his career,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: he said today, outside early in his career, and he's
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: grown into this nickel role and that's what he's been. However,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: he is versatile enough to be able to step outside.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: The reality is is that this football team, okay, prior
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: to free agency, had one starting corner on the roster
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: for the most part, the other spot was wide open.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: And when I say that, you know who was the
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: starter last year?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Well it was.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: It was kind of a merry go round of starters
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: opposite of Tyson Campbell.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Last year, even he was not on the field a
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: lot too correct. So I think that Jordan Lewis is
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: going to be a starter. Is that a nickel, is
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that a corner? Is he going to play both? I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: don't know, but he's going to be a starter and
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: he's going to be on the field a ton. He's
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a good football player, so looking forward to watching him play.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And Jorian Jones has to go somewhere too, got to compete.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Well, look, I mean, Jarry and Jones is a good
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: football player, got a good skill set.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Those guys work out together, by the way, which is great, great, great,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I mean and love it.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: And they're going to be competing for some similar roles
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: and there's nothing wrong with that. Let him compete and
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: they'll make each other better that way.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I like it. I also like it. We like it.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: I think what's going to be interesting too is that,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: you know, when you asked him about free agency or
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: excuse me, about the draft, and that now that free
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: agency is kind of wrapped up, he said, as JP,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: it's not over with yet kind of that was his answer, right,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: And so my impression is that, look, there's still players
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: in the market, and the market intangibly rich exactly.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I love the term. I love the term. But what
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: what impresses me the most is how they put so
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: much And James talks about this, and he puts a
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: premium on the vetting process, and you hear so much
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: about combine interviews, and then at some point, I think
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of the draft picks are going to be
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: coming to visit different teams. How many players are they
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: allowed to thirty.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, thirty you have combine visits and all that kind
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: of stuff.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Look, I mean the reality is is that what would
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you rather do? Would you rather talk to the player
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: in person? Or would you rather spend the resources and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: talk to everybody that's been around that player for a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: long period of time and that you trust that person's opinion.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: What would you rather have I a ten ten minute
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: interview or who years of background? Yeah, who's had to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: deal with this guy? And how is he as a teammate,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: as a player, as everything behind the scenes tells you
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a lot about the person you're to get.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: And I think that that's, uh, that's outstanding. I like
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: the premium that he puts on that process.
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  Speaker 5: Understanding what the offenses want to do, Understanding what the
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  Speaker 5: and in the past game, and being able to go
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  Speaker 5: in the past and run games basically you know a
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  Speaker 4: Did you catch that little nugget that that we got
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: from James Bladstone about what are you talking about?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Well, when we were talking about a lot of Robert
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: he has plenty to say, throwing out nuggets all day.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Well, when we were when we when we he was
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: talking about Hainsey in particular, he said that Hainsey won
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: the job out of camp. But Graham Barton, I think,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: is the rookie from Duke who played tackle and the
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Buccaneers drafted him in the first round, moved him to center,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: and then he was the starting center through the air,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: and I think long term Graham Barton Barton might have
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: been the long term answer for for the Buccaneers at center.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: But it was interesting hearing James say that, and maybe
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I maybe I misheard him, I don't know, but I
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: thought he said that Hainsey won the job out of camp,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: which means that the Buccaneers committed to the younger player
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: to be maybe long term that's the better answer. But
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: he said that Hainsey won the job out of camp,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: which means he should have been the starting center or
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: could have been the starting center. And I can't wait
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: to watch that film that he's talking about the New
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Orleans Saints game, because it was a big win.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Like it was a wild game. So it was fifty
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: one twenty seven final. The Bucks led the game seventeen
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: to nothing in the first quarter and then lost the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: lead later in the game. It was at one point
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen in the second quarter and then twenty
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: seven to twenty four at halftime. Saints had the lead,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and the Bucks scored the final four times of the game,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, and just kind of ran away with it
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: in second.
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  Speaker 4: I remember watching Hainsey the year before because the Jaguars
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: played them in December in a game that they didn't
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: play very well if you remember back, and they didn't
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: play well in a lot of games, yeah, I know,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: but this one was kind of memorable because right around
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Christmas time.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: It was not a good performance.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: And Hainsey was the starting center and that was a
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: game in which the Buccaneers dominated the game.
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  Speaker 1: Up front.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Hainsey was a part of that, and I remember getting
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: ready to watch or getting ready to call the game.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: I was watching the Buccaneers on film and I remember
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: look watching the center for the Buccaneers and Hainsey's got
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: kind of real big up top, a little thinner down low.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if he's worked on that edge
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: of it or not, but I just remember that he
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: was definitely what when he talks about playing to the
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: whistle and beyond, Jane Clapstone said that I do remember
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: that about Hainsey. So looking forward to watching that game
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: against the Norland Saints, I.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Wonder what intangibly rich players he might be talking about
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: still out there free agency.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: I'm sure there could be a lot of guys, but look,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I think intangibly rich it means a lot of different things,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: and it can be and can be many different things.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: It can be what a guy means to a locker room.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: It could mean what a player does to elevate those
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: around him, not just worrying about his own little home.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: And also, I think.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Being able to raise the competition level in the off
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: season with guys to help make them better and the
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: way they train. I mean there's lots of different things
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: that you could consider intangibles, and in tangibles, I think
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: by definition, is something that you can't sit there and
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: put your finger on specifically, or you can't sit there
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: and point to and say, hey, this is it. But
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: there are a lot of things I think that would
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: qualify into that category. And I think the most important
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: thing is the person that is inside that. What kind
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: of a person, what's the quality of the person inside
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: that you can't actually look at and sit there and say, oh,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: he has that, But it's something that's kind of nondescript,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: So I guess that's kind of odd, right, I mean,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: but it is. It's something that's incredibly important. If you
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: can find guys that are leaders of men and have
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: that gift, I think that you're going to have a
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: heck of a great time with your football team if
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: you can get those guys that have that.
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  Speaker 1: You got to think about how how long James Gladstone
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: has been on the job here, and that's only been
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: what two weeks?
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine half weeks. I mean, I mean that's
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: there's a lot. There is a tremendous amount of work
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: that they have had to do and I know when
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: he was hired he said that, you know, we don't
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: feel like we're behind in any way. But I mean
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: it's a brand.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: New you're here's the staff and good luck well, and
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I think that, I mean from his standpoint.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Look, I mean it's it's great if you never feel
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: like that you're behind or that you're trying to play
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: catch up, because it means that you're confident in what
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: you're doing, and it means that where you were at
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: you've obviously done a lot of work anticipating the future.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: And I think that's one thing about James. I think that,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: first of all, he very smart, and that's very obvious.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And but all these coaches that were assembled have also
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: been working towards the future as well, but at other places.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: So it's not like everybody just showed up up and
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: they've been, you know, sitting on the couch at home
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: drinking people watching movies and drinking Pinion clouds and eating.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Cheetos in their underwear. Okay, so why do you point
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: at me when you say that, no, I'm not I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: didn't come on, didn't mean you come on, I didn't
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: mean you you know better than that. But I'm excited
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to see you know. And and here's the thing. So
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: many years this football team has won this time of year. Oh,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: we know how to win an off season around here.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I mean we have. We have a streak of off
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: season victories.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: And if there is ever something that we have that
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: we could have learned over the years, is that have
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: you ever heard of the Kansas City Chiefs or the
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens or who else past Super Bowl winners name
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: them the Rams? Have those teams ever been like the
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: big winners this time of year?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's right this long term, it's the life.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Plood of disfranchises through the draft and this team. And look,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that this free agent class is not good.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I could I think, like I said, I think they
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: got four or five starters out of that, which is
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: what you need. And also what James talked about is
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: that if you can fill some holes with free agents,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: then also it allows you to let your draft board
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: kind of naturally happen. In other words, you're picking the
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: best player instead of feeling like you have to pick need.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: And I think that's incredibly important because and I've always
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: been a believer in this plug your holes in free agency.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: You don't need to make a big, giant splash with
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: a ton of guaranteed money. Just plug your holes and
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: then put all your resources and energy and focus on
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: the draft and take the best player that.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You can get that are intangibly rich. We'll use that term.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: There you go, I mean and you feel it now,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: so that okay, we can break a huddle if we
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: had to with the team you have you want to be,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: and then go get the best players. On top of that,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I hope the new roof at the stadium across the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: street here whenever it's done. Twenty eight. It's heavy. For
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: all these off season championship banners that the Jaguars have,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of those. Gotta get rid of those.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: We don't want to worry, No, no, no, we wanted heavy
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: for real. Yeah, that's right, Divisions, what you want, super
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Bowl championship, that's what you want. That's what it's there for.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: We're back at a moment. We'll get our final thoughts
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: in and yes, free agents are here, and by the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: by the way, can turn a break.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: We need to add up real quick, what the ballpark
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: of the top five guys money wants.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I was told there would be no math on the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: show today. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Man.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: We were so close, you know, we was always always
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: there for each other. We can communicate like what we saw.
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: And we had some some older guys in there, like
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: Bobby and zach Ertz and you know, they they kind
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: of let j Jayden lean on them a whole lot
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: more so, and we all leaned on each other. And
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: we had some guys that can that played a different
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: type of role and for us, like how they had
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: the standard was it was always player led and we
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: kind of understood that. So I think that that run there,
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: we just fell on each other and became like kept
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: that brotherhood going, and that's what got us through the
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: hard times, the tough times. And you could see like
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: we were finishing finishing games. You know, like a lot
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: of games were close, but we'll finish because that's what
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: that's what we wanted to do, and we trusted in
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: each other to get things done and that's what happened.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Stiami Brown Wide receiver from the Washington Commanders. Welcome back
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick with Jeff Lagerman. We're at
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the Hundai Studios Jaguars Happy Hour presented by dream Finders Homes,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: official homebuilder of the Jacksonville jack Is That answered from
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: a question about the playoff run and what was the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: mood of the locker room and how it came together,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: And that was his description of how the playoff run
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: for Washington came together and fell just a little bit
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: short of the Super Bowl.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: A magical run for an organization that has been in
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: a bad position for many years under the ownership of
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Daniel Schneider, and felt like the fans felt like they
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: didn't have.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Any kind of hope.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: And then ownership changed, and the regime changed, a lot
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: of people in the organization changed, and the most important
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: thing the quarterback changed and that really changed the direction
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: of that franchise.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: And they had a magical year. And the challenge is
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: to try to find a way to get back to
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the same place. The key thing he said in that
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to me though, was it was player led. That's where
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: it really has to take hold. Yes, you could have
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: culture and the coaches and things, the players don't buy
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: an to it and run with it. You got a problem.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: And if you go back and you looked at what
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Washington did they they let go of a lot of
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: players that were starters slash high picks that they just
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: weren't going to move forward with and that it takes
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: courage sometimes to do that. And I'm not trying to
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: draw any parallels to what the Jaguars have done, because
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars, I think, you know, and when you look
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: at who they have released, for example, Jaguars traded Christian Kirk,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: you release Evan Ingram, But you know, those two guys
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: are high caliber, high quality guys, and so the business
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: of the game, yeah, they don't fall into that category
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: of trying to to you know, separate from the past,
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: because those aren't the kind of character guys that you know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: you want to have.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Those those are the guys you'd like to have.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Those two guys are high character guys that just, you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: the money, the pay versus play weren't where they believed
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: it needed to be at. But you know, every organization's
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: got to be able to take bold steps to get
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: some type of change in the future. And sometimes some
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: of those bold changes come from making financial decisions to
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: be able to get the best performance per dollar that
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: you can get.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: And that's just part of the business which of these
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: three agent signings are you most excited about?
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Lux Well, I mean, look, I'm obviously a big fan
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: of the offensive line and the need for this offense
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: to get less dependent on the quarterback.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: And so McCarry Hainesy.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, those are the guys that I think that
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: I'm excited about the Mostoga. We'll make sure I pronounced
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: that correctly. I think it's going to provide some great competition.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Diamie Brown. I'm excited because you know what I mean,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: just listening to James's evaluation of him about the ability
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: to go deepen and to be so much more.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: And he's still young, he's still growing. There's a lot
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: to see.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: And I love it when players are on a one
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: year prove it deal because they feel the need to
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: prove it. And so when you're looking for motivation, I
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: don't think you're going to find a more motivated player
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: than Diamie Brown.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Season coming up and now it's about moving forward. The
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: offseason program can officially begin on the seventh of April.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Since there's a new head coach in place, I think
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: players will be in here probably the eighth officially, so
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: workouts can begin then and you can start throwing the
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: playbook around and talking ball and for a certain small
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: set amount of time each day. But it's better than nothing.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: So it's coming.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Quick, yeah, and it's look, it can't get here soon enough,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: you know, just to kind of get that momentum going
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: forward to twenty twenty five in the season, and I
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: know that there's a lot of fans that are excited
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: about this year, and there's a lot of fans that
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: are wanting to see the improvement and kind of in
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: that prove it mode. And I'm excited about this football
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: team moving forward. I think they've got a great mindset
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: when it comes to James Gladstone as the GM basally
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: is the EVP operations EVP and then also Liam conn
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: I'm excited for it. I can't wait to watch what's next.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: But most importantly for me, the the importance of the
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: draft in the mindset of this franchise. I just get
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: the feeling that it's changed and it's changed for the better.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: The whole concept when James is talking about, you know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: filling the holes and then being free to draft, you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: the best available players, and that's the lifeblood of the franchise.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: That excites me because I think that this team now
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: has a chance to to establish itself in the direction that.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: It needs to be moving in. When are you gonna
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: start watching a draft eligible film?
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll start watching film with the free agents and
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: the draft eligible players this week coming up. Okay, it
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: will start probably this weekend. I usually wait to get
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: the free agency because then once it gets to free agency,
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: you can actually watch the free agents that the team
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: actually signs. And then I start watching some of the
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: college prospects, you know, and you know, I probably watch
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty guys, you know, somewhere in that range,
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: you know, top couple rounds, you know, top top five
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: to ten, depending on positions, you know, across the board.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: You get an idea. I know, you always like look
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks. You know, I probably won't. I mean,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I'll look at a little bit of the quarterbacks system,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, just because I mean you have to be
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: able to talk quarterback if you're going to talk about
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the top of the draft, you know, but I'm not
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: going to watch them with the intent that this football
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: team is obviously going to draft them. But you know,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: here's a great thing where this team is picking at
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: depending on how things end up turning out ahead of them.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Jaguars may be in a great position
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: to turn that fifth overall pick into a bounty of
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: future picks by trading back a little bit.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if there's a quarterback that is there for a
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: team's liking that does not lie in the top five.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: So my hope is is that there's some guys that
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: get pushed to the top. You know, when I say
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: the top ahead of the Jaguars, that pushes the quarterbacks down,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: and then the quarterback needy team ends up saying, hey, James,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: we really want that fifth overall pick, and here's what
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: we're willing to give, and hopefully that's a lot of picks.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: You know, a couple of guys we left out in
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the free agent signings. We have the tight end. The
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: tight end, Yeah, I mean, like I think that these
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: guys are Johnny Munt and Hunter Long, and I think
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: that those guys are rotational players and backup type of players.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: And look, I know that they're coming in to compete
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: for a starting role and at some point they may
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: have to be a starter. But look, the the future
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: of this football team at tight end is Breton Strange. Yes,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Breton Strange is a really good football player. JP. You
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: know how I felt about him for a long time.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: And James doubled that down today in the press conference
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: which is available at Jaguars dot com and Jaguars you
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: to hear what he said. He basically said, yeah, I'd
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: get ready because it's Britain's Strange. Time's not exact terms, right,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's a great football player. You know.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: The difference between Brenton Strange and Evan Ingram is this,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: and both of them are very good football players, but
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: they're very different. Evan Ingram is a is more of
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: an h kind of a wide receiver tight end hybrid.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Breton Strange is a true tight end. Breton Strange causes
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: more of a matchup nightmare for defensive coordinators than I
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: think Evan Ingram because Evan Ingram gets treated like a
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: true wide receiver by defensive coordinators. You can't do that
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: with Brenton.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Strangeyeh, Brenton can line up in the backfield as a
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: fullback if you really wanted to, and hit.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: You in the masts and does an outstanding job of blocking.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Does I think better things after the catch? Probably than
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: what Evan Ingram has done. Not to say that everything
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: is not a good football player, because he really is
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: a good.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Football season was pretty strong, high quality guy too, So
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: we'll see. So. Brian Thomas Jr. Was out at the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Players today TPC saw Gray making the rounds good. Did
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: he play any golf? I don't, Well, I don't know
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: if he's that good to play with the pros to
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Today's the first round of the tournament. You're going out tomorrow.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I'm going tomorrow.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: All right, People can be a on lookout for Shadwick
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: at the Players. I'm gonna make a visit out there
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: this weekend, looking forward.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: To it's a it's always a fun week in town.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Everybody's all fired up, the beach is crowded and all
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: It's a it's a great attraction and it's a it's
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: a great experience for those that have never done it,
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: and I look forward to it. I'm not a golfer,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: but to be able to appreciate the professional athletes for
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: what they do, I mean, I think that's that's pretty cool.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm terrible at it. I like watching it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: I can't do it, so when I when I watch
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: somebody that can do something that I can't do.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's with great appreciation that I watch. It's
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: like watching hockey players. I could never play hockey. I
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: can't even skate, and kidding me, I tried barely walking straight.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I tried.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: It's like, well, one of the sports that I'm a
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: big fan of, baseball, used to play baseball football. Of course,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: I played football golf, and I was a hack when
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: I did it, you know, but it's been a long
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: time since I've done it, but I could still swing
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: a club.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I like to publicly apologize to the Grove golf Course
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: in England. That's the last time I played, and I
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: hacked it to pieces. I have my apologies. That's called
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: getting that's called getting your money's worth. They got all
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: their golf balls back that I bought, They have them all.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: There's somewhere out there on the course a lot, in
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: other words, a lot of filler. Yeah, you know what
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: is that stuff called.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: It's like dirt and seed mix that you always fill
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: your divots with. I mean, and they sometimes come in
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: a bottle. So you had an extra one of them
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: on the cart Did you have a cartage? You actually
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: was a cart.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not walking. You're you're not a walk guy,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I look like I walk. Don't answer that. Oh, you're
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: wearing all black today, jas, it looks like you could
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: walk to it. Don't answer that. Good weather though, tomorrow
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Saturday in the high seventies, low eighties, sunshine most of
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the day. A little rain in the forecast on Sunday.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: So hopefully that doesn't hit the tournament this weekend. Well,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: it at least allows them to get it in. Yeah,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: just a little bit of rain. As long as it
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a whole lot of heat, you know, then
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: be all.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Right, just get it in. Yeah, be all right. It's
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: it's an epic event. It's an outstanding event. I know
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: that the Jaguars are you know, Brian Thomas was out
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: there today.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that the specialists were out there yesterday. I
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: saw the kicker and the long snapper were there, you know,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: doing social media stuff. Oh yeah, absolutely, So that was cool,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: And there'll be more of those guys throughout the weekend.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. I think the coaches probably might have some
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: time off to get out there too. All right, So
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: let me ask you a question.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: With free agency still going not over with no, it's
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: never over. If you had to pick a position that
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars would still look at, what might you think
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: that position would be.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I would have thought defensive line until today when James
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: said at the press conference, no, we're waiting for the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: rookies to play there. So sounds like they're going to
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: lean that way a.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Little bit in the draft, which, by the way, that
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: the Rams were pretty good at finding hookies that can play.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: You think, so I would have said that since you
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: know that he said that, he literally said it.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Where else would you look at? Wide receiver? I think
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: that could be one wide receiver?
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: I think I think the smaller guys I think are
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: still in play, whether it be a wide receiver or
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: corner or a corner because you know, look last year
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars, you know, kind of had an issue at
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: corner and even though you signed one, that's a position
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: where you play a lot of them and if you
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: have an injury that you'd like to have some depth
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: there some When I say depth, depth that you can
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: count on. So I know that they have Monteric Brown
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: obviously there as well, but I think that's a position.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Linebacker I think is also an interesting one. Yeah, that
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: was inconsistent last year, to say the least, and I
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: think that that's one of the reasons why I kind
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: of kind of went there a little bit. Yeah, ok,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I think that that's going to be an interesting position
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: to watch obviously going forward. And where people play, Yeah,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: who plays, whether playing when they're playing? How often that me?
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: He snaps it again, I mean when you have a
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: new regime. Okay, Uh, there's no past favorites, you know
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: what I mean, clean slate. Everybody starts from ground zero.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: When I say everybody starts from ground zero, look, nobody
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: cares where you drafted out in the past. Nobody cares
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: about your contract unless it's overly expensive.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Care about it. If it's overly expensive, you might not
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: be around. Let me correct myself. They always care about
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: your contract professional football, the contract matters, but.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: Where you came from doesn't matter. And I think that
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: that's sometimes refreshing and good to kind of cleanse the system,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: so to speak.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Logs, we got through another hour. Are you actually surprised? No,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at all. I'm just saying I'm just
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: stating facts. Thanks to James clas Are we gonna have
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the head coach next week. I mean we had the GM.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: We should just keep getting executives all week and weeks ago.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Liam Combe.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Maybe next week Mike can put in a request and
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: then maybe put in a request.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: For you know this EVP guy that he's got his
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: own podcast, so I don't know he's he's too busy.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: What do you mean he's got he does ev podcast.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: That's Jeff Logging. I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for listening.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.