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Cuckoo for Cougars · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast this week on your
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  Speaker 1: Gabble Gabble.
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  Speaker 2: If a cougar bids on you in a bachelor's auction
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  Speaker 2: and then gets creepy.
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  Speaker 1: On the day and you bailed, you still owe her money.
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  Speaker 1: Judge Ross is here to let him know.
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  Speaker 3: And if your girls cocoa puffs without asking.
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  Speaker 1: Can she see you? Or is she just cuckoo? Real people?
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  Speaker 3: Thank Justice.
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  Speaker 1: This is Joab.
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  Speaker 3: I'm cuckoo, cuokes, cuckoo, foll coca puffs, cuckoo, poor cook
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  Speaker 3: a puff.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, welcome boy back in the chambers. We sure are.
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  Speaker 1: No robes were robless. We're still wearing close still are
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  Speaker 1: if you're listening, we have clothes.
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  Speaker 4: It's casual Friday.
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  Speaker 1: It's just nice. Where are we going today? I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to America. His court is not sure what about you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going into the People's court, the People's court. Judge Maybelene,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's maybel maybe it's Judge Million.
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  Speaker 3: I do it every time, every solitary time. So mine's
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  Speaker 3: not very fun. It's not as fun as the good case.
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  Speaker 3: It's an interesting case. It's not like funny. You want
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  Speaker 3: to just hit me with it, all right?
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  Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, so we're at the
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  Speaker 1: people's court. H Chaniel Barnett is okay what Chaniel Barnett.
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  Speaker 3: Shaneiel Barnett is suing the Kwan butler for one thousand
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  Speaker 3: seven dollars wow, okay, one zero.
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  Speaker 1: So here's the story. Okay, are you ready?
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  Speaker 4: I'm ready, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: It's the fourth of July and Shanil is heading back
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  Speaker 1: home after a night on the town with her friend,
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  Speaker 1: her girl girlfriend, and she saw the Kwan sleeping on
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  Speaker 1: the apartment stairs outside.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I never seen them before. Her never never met
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  Speaker 3: him before, got it. Her friend wakes them up. She's like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not very nice. My friend's nice. She likes to
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  Speaker 3: start conversation with people and just like talk to them.
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  Speaker 3: That's not my deal.
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  Speaker 1: But uh so, uh wakes them up and it's like,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing here? What's going on here?
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  Speaker 3: He's like, I live here, and I'm like, no, you don't.
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  Speaker 3: I've never seen you before.
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  Speaker 1: She's like why.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, I live with my grandpa, but no one's
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  Speaker 3: answering the door, so I just decided to sleep sleep here.
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  Speaker 1: So they start talking some more.
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  Speaker 3: They're having a good time, you know, getting to know
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  Speaker 3: each other and whatnot. So uh, Chaneil is going to
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  Speaker 3: walk her friend to the train station and he's like,
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  Speaker 3: I'll join you.
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  Speaker 1: This will be fun.
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  Speaker 3: So they all go and then the two of them,
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  Speaker 3: after dropping the friend off at the train station, come
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  Speaker 3: back and she's like, Hey, you don't need to sleep
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  Speaker 3: on the stairs.
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  Speaker 1: Come on up, you can sleep at my place.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that was very kind of her, and beyond, above
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  Speaker 3: and beyond, and they start to, you know, build a
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  Speaker 3: little friendship and whatnot. A couple of days later, his
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  Speaker 3: mom comes out of his grandpa's place and it's like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm heading back to North Carolina, and so Shanil's like,
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  Speaker 3: are you going to go back to North Carolina with her?
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't know. I don't really know.
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  Speaker 3: My grandpa's kind of being weird about me staying with
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  Speaker 3: him and all that stuff. And so Judge asks de
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  Speaker 3: Kwan about his living arrangement, what's the deal here, because
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  Speaker 3: you're sleeping on the stairs, your grandpa's being weird and
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  Speaker 3: he says, so the night that I was sleeping on
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  Speaker 3: the stairs, I had actually just gotten out of prison.
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, I.
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  Speaker 1: Had been in prison for six years.
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  Speaker 3: For stabbing someone and he claims it was self defense.
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  Speaker 3: Who's to say, I'm not. That's Judge's job. So Chanil
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  Speaker 3: offers her place until he figures it out. She's like,
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  Speaker 3: he wanted to get his uh gud, he wants to
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  Speaker 3: get a job.
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  Speaker 1: I'll help you do that.
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  Speaker 3: I know just the nicest person, so I'll be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Chanil is I I feel like she's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Everything she's saying is like, you seem like you've got
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  Speaker 3: your act together. You may be a little bit naive,
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  Speaker 3: but you seem nice. But Judge is like really rude
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  Speaker 3: to her, like just not just like not, she's just
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  Speaker 3: like really thinks that she's stupid. I can't believe that
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  Speaker 3: you would do this. Blah blah blah. Basically, so.
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  Speaker 1: He uh. She gets him some job interview clothes.
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  Speaker 3: And buys him job in and then gets him a
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  Speaker 3: job interview at a security place to be to be security,
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  Speaker 3: and he calls her up and is like, Hey, what
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  Speaker 3: should I wear to the job interview? And she's like
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  Speaker 3: the job interview closed and he's like, no, I think
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna wear this and it's basically what he's wearing.
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  Speaker 1: So he's like, and what he's wearing.
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  Speaker 3: Is basically what you're wearing right now, a black shirt
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  Speaker 3: with some paints. Actually they're more like like joggers, like joggers.
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  Speaker 1: So very cash. He's very cash in the courtroom, very
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  Speaker 1: cash job interview. But then he just doesn't come to
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  Speaker 1: the job interview.
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  Speaker 4: He just blows it off.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of like the start of some problems.
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  Speaker 3: She then is just like trying to figure out ways
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  Speaker 3: to get some extra money.
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  Speaker 4: He's kind of like become her project a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit of a project situation. She's not trying
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  Speaker 3: to figure out a way to get some extra money
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  Speaker 3: because he's not paying rent, he's not contributing to food
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  Speaker 3: or anything because he doesn't have a job.
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  Speaker 1: It's fresh out of prison.
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  Speaker 3: So she is like, Okay, I've got this CBD weed
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  Speaker 3: that I got after a car accident. I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 3: If you can sell it, then we'll have some extra money.
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  Speaker 3: That'd be wonderful. There's a lot of question about what
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  Speaker 3: the CBD wheat se CBD because he's like, you smoke it,
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  Speaker 3: and Judge Million's like, well, that's just regular weed, and
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  Speaker 3: he's like no, but it's not. It's a whole back
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  Speaker 3: and forth thing CBD weed. Anyway, He's like, I tried it,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't like it. I take it to my friends,
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  Speaker 3: they all try it, they all don't like it. I
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  Speaker 3: tried to sell it, but no one liked it. But
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  Speaker 3: then I come back and none of it's left because
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  Speaker 3: we all try you give.
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  Speaker 1: It away free samples.
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  Speaker 3: So does not sell the weed and actually comes back
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  Speaker 3: empty handed, more so than when he left, and that's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: Also, she says, he's just not considerate.
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  Speaker 3: Like I make meals and I don't mind him eating
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  Speaker 3: the meals with me, but like I'll go in in
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  Speaker 3: the morning and all the cocoa puffs will be gone
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  Speaker 3: one thousand and seven dollars for So we're getting to
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  Speaker 3: where most of the money. Some of it is for
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  Speaker 3: cocoa puffs, I don't know the amount, some of it
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  Speaker 3: is for the CBD weed, is for the suit, some
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  Speaker 3: of it's I don't they She never says that she
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  Speaker 3: wants money for the suits, but but I it has
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  Speaker 3: to be some so AnyWho, So, just to just to
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  Speaker 3: talk it through real quick, we got he's staying there
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  Speaker 3: eating her cocoa puffs, not selling the weed, and actually
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  Speaker 3: using the weed not taking the clothes, not taking the
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  Speaker 3: clothes to get a job, not really trying to help,
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  Speaker 3: just take scheuing for all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Basically, yes, but there's one other thing. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So one night they're having they're having some fun. They're
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  Speaker 3: they're play fighting, is what she says, play fighting, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and he picks her up, throws her on his shoulders.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, put me down, put me down, put me down,
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  Speaker 3: and he rows her down onto the ground a little
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  Speaker 3: bit harder than she was expecting.
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  Speaker 1: And she lands on a professional hair dryer she does hair.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like afessional hair driver was on the ground,
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  Speaker 3: was on the ground of some sort, and so it's confusing, okay,
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  Speaker 3: whether or not like it lay somehow the hairdryer gets shattered, okay,
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  Speaker 3: got it.
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  Speaker 1: So she's like, is this domestic abuse?
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  Speaker 3: And Shanil's like, no, I wouldn't classify it as domestic abuse.
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  Speaker 3: Just threw me down a little bit harder than I
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  Speaker 3: think we anticipate. He's a big he was supposed to
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  Speaker 3: throw me down.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a throw down, a toss down situation. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. But still during all of this, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: There's something about Shaneil that I do trust and she
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  Speaker 3: does seem to have a good head on her shoulders,
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  Speaker 3: albeit kind of like naive, like to bring in somebody
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  Speaker 3: that's just out of prison that you don't know at all, like.
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  Speaker 1: In hindsight is very dumb, but like I.
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  Speaker 3: Can see how she got there, Like nice people, I
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  Speaker 3: think kind of stumble into things and then it's like,
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  Speaker 3: uh oh, so I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I still find her to be a trustworthy source, So
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 3: Like when she says that we were playing and he
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  Speaker 3: put me down in a hurt she does strike me
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  Speaker 3: as somebody who if she thought it was domestic abuse,
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  Speaker 3: she would have would said okay. So she brings pictures
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  Speaker 3: of the hair dryer. The hair dryer is basically broken
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  Speaker 3: into two kind of, and part of the piece is shattered.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, why can't you just fix the part that shattered?
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  Speaker 3: And she's like, you can't buy that, you gotta buy
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  Speaker 3: a whole new one. She says that a new hair
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  Speaker 3: dryer like this is gonna cost six hundred and forty
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  Speaker 3: nine dollars. Judge bill Yon says, I look it up.
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  Speaker 3: I can find them for a lot cheaper. Why is
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  Speaker 3: it as much? She's like, that's how much it is
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  Speaker 3: and she's like, no, it's not. They go back and
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  Speaker 3: forth on disk. So one day finally she's had enough
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  Speaker 3: of du kwan and he shows up and all of
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  Speaker 3: this stuff is outside, and so he just moves down
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  Speaker 3: a floor to his grandfather's house. They still see each other.
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  Speaker 3: The judge says, is that awkward that you still see
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  Speaker 3: each other? And da Quan says, nah, I know how
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  Speaker 3: women are. And Judge Million is like, that's an interesting
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  Speaker 3: thing to say to a woman. Judge or form about
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  Speaker 3: the rule. She is ready to rule. Give give her everything,
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  Speaker 3: give her everything, well, I will.
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  Speaker 2: Say, because of the discrepancy and the dryer, maybe a
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  Speaker 2: little bit less than everything.
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  Speaker 4: Nine hundred dollars okay.
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  Speaker 3: She just gives her the amount for the hairdryer that
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  Speaker 3: she finds online, a new hairdryer, the exact models, three
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  Speaker 3: hundred and thirty two dollars. She gives her the three
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  Speaker 3: hundred and thirty two dollars. She says, you don't get
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  Speaker 3: the cocoa puffs. That's just you let him stay with you.
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  Speaker 3: There's no agreement about food and all that stuff. It
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  Speaker 3: was nothing clearly laid out. No food, the weed, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: that is what it is.
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  Speaker 4: So just as I thought, maybe that was just gonna
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  Speaker 4: make her angry.
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  Speaker 3: Now the thing he says, I did too, but she's
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  Speaker 3: she's down to buy the book.
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like she was a little bit too harsh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah on Chanil.
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  Speaker 3: But he walks out and does a little interview and
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  Speaker 3: he's like, and I don't have a job, not plan
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  Speaker 3: on getting a job.
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  Speaker 1: Things are working out for me. I'm just fine. And
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  Speaker 1: she's just like, I'm not gonna trust people like that again.
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  Speaker 1: Boom goes to Dynamite and goes to don There you go.
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  Speaker 3: So not a fun case, but interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Shut out, chucked on out, checked on out. You want
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  Speaker 1: to welcome yourself back into Judge Rosses more than anything
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  Speaker 1: in the entire world. Let me introduce you to Jeff
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  Speaker 1: al Dean.
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  Speaker 4: Uh not like Jason Aldan.
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  Speaker 1: Not related at all?
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  Speaker 2: More all done, al d I any, Jeff Alden is
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  Speaker 2: suing Greg Toughan for twelve hundred and fourteen dollars for
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  Speaker 2: breach of contract.
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  Speaker 4: All right, twelve dollars.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be a tough one.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff is like, Look, I live in Denver.
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  Speaker 2: Every year I host a charity bachelor auction my company
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  Speaker 2: picks a different charity to give to every year. This
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  Speaker 2: year it was for the construction of a mobile housing
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  Speaker 2: center and shower center for the unhoused in Denver.
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  Speaker 3: It's very kind, that's right. I don't necessarily love bachelor auctions.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's weird, but weird in the hurry, and
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  Speaker 3: they do okay good.
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  Speaker 4: We had fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: Different gentlemen of varying ages that women were gonna bid
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  Speaker 2: on for this bachelor auction.
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  Speaker 4: So at this point, Boss Ross is like, let me
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  Speaker 4: hear from you, Greg.
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  Speaker 1: Greg looks like he might be ten years old.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a full suit and tie on, but he
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  Speaker 2: got a babyface. And he's like I moved to Denver
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  Speaker 2: a year ago from Los Angeles. I graduated from University
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  Speaker 2: of Southern cal I'm an accountant. I got a job
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  Speaker 2: in Denver right away. My boss introduced me to Jeff
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  Speaker 2: I love.
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  Speaker 4: To give back.
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  Speaker 2: He promised me that I would get a chance to
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  Speaker 2: network through this and I would even meet maybe some
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  Speaker 2: young women as well. Wow, you know, and and Ross
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  Speaker 2: is like, Okay, and Ross really likes Greg.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, oh, you remind me of one of my kids.
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  Speaker 3: You still look really young. You're only twenty two. Blah
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  Speaker 3: blah blah. You thought I'll participate in this, I'll meet
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  Speaker 3: some new people.
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  Speaker 4: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: This is ross trying to Greg Tough.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's like, and women are going to f
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  Speaker 2: I could see how women would find you try it,
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  Speaker 2: Greg Toughen.
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  Speaker 3: So the bachelors aren't like famous, No, just standard Greg dudes.
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  Speaker 1: Show up a regular old Greg Tough, regular old Greg Tough.
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  Speaker 2: So Jeff said, we had we had fourteen bachelor's various ages.
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  Speaker 2: They knew the women in the audience would also be
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  Speaker 2: at various ages as well, and we don't really control
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  Speaker 2: who bins on whom, right, and so Jeff then says
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  Speaker 2: one of the creepiest things of all time, which is
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  Speaker 2: we had something for everybody.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think if you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: That, I don't think if you're doing a celebrity uh
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  Speaker 2: even a celebrity, I don't think you're doing a charity
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  Speaker 2: bachelor auction that that's something you should say.
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  Speaker 1: In your head either one. But he said it.
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  Speaker 2: And basically the rules of this are that if if
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  Speaker 2: a woman wins you in a bit, we had something
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  Speaker 2: for everybody. We had our SCHM Mortgage Board of men
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  Speaker 2: for everyone to choose something. Yeah, basically, if you agreed
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  Speaker 2: when you are part of this, that you will go
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  Speaker 2: on a three and a half hour date with the
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  Speaker 2: winning bidder. Now this is in a written contract that
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  Speaker 2: they have. It's a two hour dinner plus an hour
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  Speaker 2: and a half at this place that's drinks and like
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  Speaker 2: dancing if you want to kind all of that is
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  Speaker 2: included as part of your donation. And he's worked it
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  Speaker 2: out with the restaurants and every right. Yeah, so now
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  Speaker 2: we get to meet Cheryl Vetterer.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Cheryl's here. There's a woman in the courtroom and
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  Speaker 1: she is.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to speculate on a woman's age. She
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  Speaker 2: is probably in her Yeah, I would say sixty is
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  Speaker 2: probably about right. She's definitely could be Greg tos mom
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  Speaker 2: some easily easily could be Greg Tufton's probably grandma.
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, she's had some work done.
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  Speaker 2: She might be upper fifties. But my guests would be
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  Speaker 2: low sixties. And we bring Gil gild Manner.
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  Speaker 1: Would watch.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, yes, you would.
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  Speaker 2: Cheryl comes on up and they're like and Ross is like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, well, miss Vetter, tell me something about yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Tell me you know.
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  Speaker 2: She's like I do like younger men, but just to
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  Speaker 2: hang out with, like just to like as a good
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  Speaker 2: companion for a night out.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: One of us buy it. But that's what she says, right.
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  Speaker 3: And she's like, you may find this hard to believe,
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  Speaker 3: and I do because Greg in the courtroom, Greg Toughen
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  Speaker 3: is like a very buttoned up He's.
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  Speaker 2: An accountant, right, He's a twenty two year old accountant.
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  Speaker 2: And Cheryl's like, when Greg was on the stage, he
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  Speaker 2: was so charismatic. He would singing, dancing. He took off
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  Speaker 2: his shirt during the bidding, Wow, and disagree, and and
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  Speaker 2: Ross goes, you Greg USC Accounting, Uh, you took off
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  Speaker 2: your shirt during the bats auction, and he goes, USC
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  Speaker 2: is a party school.
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  Speaker 4: What can I say?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: And then Ross is like, you're doing a little magic
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  Speaker 2: mic up there, classic class. And then Jeff pops in
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  Speaker 2: and goes he did get the bids really high. The
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  Speaker 2: bids were coming in fast and furious for Greg. He
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  Speaker 2: had his shirt off.
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  Speaker 1: So Cheryl said, look, I bid on a gentleman in
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  Speaker 1: his fifties.
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  Speaker 4: And got out bid. She's older than fifties. Greg came
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  Speaker 4: to the stage and I was just overwhelmed. Also, I
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: don't like that, I just want.
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  Speaker 3: To have a fun evening. I've done this before. I've
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  Speaker 3: been on young guys, old guys.
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  Speaker 2: All.
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  Speaker 1: We do this every summer or something for everybody.
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  Speaker 4: When you hear it, Ryan's like, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: She's like, and then she goes, look, I'm a very
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  Speaker 3: distinguished woman in this community and in the city of Denver.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be accused of inappropriate behavior.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: This is all like. She doesn't say all above board.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Everything in front of the propect, but she basically says that.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Jeff says, listen, I've known Cheryl for a long time.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: She's a really fun lady, loves to have a good time.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: We've never had an experience with a negative report of
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: her of any kind.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Never happened.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Just to be clear, tough and is getting sued.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Tough and is getting sued.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, yes, so I don't know.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Greg is like the event was over. I went over
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: to introduce myself to her. She's a bit older than
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I would have loved, is what he's sure. But two
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: weeks later we went on a date to Jasmines. Jeff
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: told me that she had a lot of connections in town,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and I'm trying to move up in the corporate world,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: and so I thought that would be fine. But we
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: went on a date to Jasmine's. I show up in
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: jeans and a button down shirt. She came in a
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: very inappropriate outfit. I brought a picture. Oh no, no,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the outfit is not inappropriate. It is it looks like
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: an evening gown. Sure it is not inappropriate. If you
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: were going somewhere very very, very nice, this would not
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: be considered even too dressy. Apparently Cheryl's worked in fashion
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: her whole life, and she says it's amazing that a
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: twenty two year old accountant is telling me what's fashionable.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Jasmine's is a five star restaurant in the city of Denver.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: He was underdressed. I was dressed appropriately. We see the picture.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Even Kevin Ross is like, what about this feels inappropriate
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: to you?
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Right right? We see a picture not inappropriate.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Greg's like, well, I thought it was inappropriate to like,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I show I guess cleavage, That's what he says, to
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: show I guess cleavage.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Uh, He's like, this was a platonic date and I.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Just tell is she's showing out of some cleavage there.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: But the dress this is completely appropriate it is.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Ross is like, well, you think it's inappropriate for her
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: to show cleavage? You thought it was okay to wear
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: jeans to Jasmine's. She wants to get dressed up, go
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: to a five star restaurant. Who cares? What's the problem,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: all right, Judge greg is like, he's like, whatever, it's fine.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: He goes.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: But dinner went really faster than expected. I tried to
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: network some She wasn't helpful, didn't have anything. She just
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: wanted to talk. And we had a bottle of wine.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I had maybe half a glass, she had the rest.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: She was definitely buzzed. I got uncomfortable. She started flirting
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: with me, maybe touching my hand across the table, That's
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: how he says it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe even.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: What did you think this was? Though?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think there's an understanding that it is
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: a platonic date.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, so there's no romance, that's right? Or apparently yes.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Cheryl was like he certainly didn't act uncomfortable that night.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Oh we left dinner. All of dinner was him trying
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: to work. As soon as you realize I couldn't help him.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: He was done with dinner, and basically they go to
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: this club. And they go to a club.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a place it's an hour and a half
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: drinks and or dancing basically.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: And then she was like after we got there, he left.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: He didn't say goodbye, he didn't say anything.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: He just left. And Ross was like, all right, what's happening?
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Why are we suing Greg Toughan? And Jeff's like, there's
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: got to be a contract.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Ye.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Jeff's like, I got a contract right. The contract says
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: the date is three and a half hours. Cheryl's bid
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: for Greg was four and fifty dollars for the date.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Three and a half hours long. He left an hour early.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: That comes to twelve hundred and fourteen dollars.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: That's basically what he's saying is an hour of that
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: date is worth twelve hundred and fourteen dollars. And he's like, well,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: why are you suing and not Cheryl because it's my charity,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: it's my contract. Cheryl paid me all her money and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: his requested no refund. She wants that money to go
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: to charity. What I'm saying is is that if he's
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: not going to follow through on what she paid for,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: then he needs to pay me back because he signed
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: a contract that he would do it, right, we have
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the contract.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: It's extensive.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: So Cheryl's like, look, I'm lucky enough to be a
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: means of this money. It's all relative.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: But it did hurt when he just went to the
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: bathroom and pieced out and come on to Yeah, that's right.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: So the contract clearly states all this two hours of dinner,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: hour and a half of drinking and dancing at this place.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: What does the contract state if you don't if you
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: is there anything in places as to what you owe?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Is you agree that you will do this? There's no
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: breakage of it, right? So Greg's like, well, wait a minute.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: We went to this bar. I had a beer, she
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: was taking multiple shots. She was drunk. She started dancing
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: all up on me. She tried to kiss me. I
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: got very uncomfortable.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Cheryl gasps like like like I do declare.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Gasp like I would never do that. Thing is made uncomfortable.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit through our abuse just because
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: of a contract.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: He said it was better for me and for her
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: for me to go to the bathroom for a couple
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: of minutes. When I got back up from the bathroom,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I saw her. She was dancing in this three way
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: sandwich with a couple. She was in between this couple
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: dancing on them. So I took off. I told Jeff
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: what happened, Jeff said, Jeff said, Jeff said, he didn't
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: tell me what happened. I called him when Cheryl complained
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: to me, and then he told me what happened. So
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Ross then says, what's your policy on inappropriate behavior? And
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Jeff says, it's that you report it right away and
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: we'll deal with it. And Ross says, show me that
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: in the contract. He says, it's not in the contract.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: We didn't even think about it. This has been done.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Can think about it? Well, he said, this has been
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: done in this community forever.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: We've never had an issue of any kind, and so
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: we've never specified it in the agreement. Ross is, like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: you specify everything else. Why didn't you specify what happens
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: if you believe that you're uncomfortable? And he goes, we
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: just never had that problem, Boss, Ross is ready to rule.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Toss is a hard one.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: This's a hard case. Something to talk through. My thoughts.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Please do.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: One.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Think worst case scenario, just because it hasn't happened before.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: You have to you're bringing people together.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: That have been on someone that had his shirt off
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and saying go out and have drinks and then go dance.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: The fact that something like this hasn't happened before is
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Pretty impressive because people listening.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: When alcohol gets involved, people do weird things, especially, so
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised that they didn't.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Have it in the contract. I think you gotta have
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it in the contract.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: So even though the contracts that you would do for
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: X amount of time, does a contract state that you don't.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: It's not in the contract that you have to report anything.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: They just want you to.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nothing in the contract.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think he owes any money. I would be
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: very surprised if Judge Ross gives him any money because
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: the money is going to going to UH charity. She
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: doesn't want any of the money back. This is really
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I would be pretty disappointed if he owes money. The
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Gavil rules in favor of the defendant.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Ross gives a lecture on what it means to be
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: taken advantage of or to feel uncomfortable, and that there
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: is no excuse for that not being in the contract.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Had there been something in the contract to that regard,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: then he could have gotten some money from the defendant.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: But because that's not in theresa he said, he said
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: or he said, she said, situation, and there's nothing you
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: can do.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: This guy should write a better contract and he will
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in the future.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: There you go, There you go.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Good case case, one of my favorite cases. How about that?
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• 25:13
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• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and a half of drinks and dancing. Yeah, I'm dancing.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm out on that's a that's weird. I don't like that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I don't like that at all.
• 25:22
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