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- 0:48SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another episode of A Quick Timeout Podcast.
- 0:51Today I'm joined by someone who is doing some great work in the
- 0:54coaching space,
- 0:55Hunter Price.
- 0:56Hunter has spent years studying the intersection of culture and
- 1:00performance,
- 1:01and he's taken that experience to write a soon-to-be-launched
- 1:04new book titled Care
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: to Compete,
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: The Coach's Guide to Connection That Wins the Margins.
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: Hunter, thanks for jumping on the show.
- 1:10Tony thanks for having me on I've been waiting for this I've
- 1:13listened to your
- 1:14podcast especially the culture building ones and I was super
- 1:17excited to hop in
- 1:18myself yeah fantastic I'm excited to have you on and kind of
- 1:21extend that a little
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: bit give us some more that's something that
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: You know,
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: the X's and O's,
- 1:25I've found that coaches are really thirsty for the culture
- 1:28component of it and
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: people are doing it.
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: But I think that finding an organized system,
- 1:33SPEAKER_00: maybe that's kind of what I wanted to ask you about.
- 1:36Just start with like a little bit of background of the concept
- 1:39behind the book and
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: why you went this direction.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'd love to.
- 1:44SPEAKER_01: So essentially,
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: as a coach and as an athlete,
- 1:47SPEAKER_01: something that was a thorn in my side for my entire career and playing,
- 1:51SPEAKER_01: coaching,
- 1:52all of it was that I knew there was people in the foxhole with
- 1:55me that just didn't
- 1:57SPEAKER_01: care about the same mission that I cared about.
- 1:59SPEAKER_01: However,
- 2:00SPEAKER_01: anytime we had a guest speaker,
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: anytime we'd have a vulnerable conversation,
- 2:03SPEAKER_01: whatever it might be,
- 2:05SPEAKER_01: everyone would be like,
- 2:05SPEAKER_01: yeah,
- 2:05SPEAKER_01: I'm all about this team.
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: I totally care.
- 2:07SPEAKER_01: And I'd go, there's just no way.
- 2:09SPEAKER_01: And if you're a coach listening right now,
- 2:12I would have to imagine you've never had a year where you felt
- 2:15like every player
- 2:16SPEAKER_01: every coach was unanimously bought into the mission.
- 2:20So Tony I'm thinking about this for a really long time and it's
- 2:24bothering me like
- 2:25why is it is it that people are liars is it they're not aware
- 2:29what is the root
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: cause of this disconnect in the locker room.
- 2:33and then one day I start this new job and we're doing this
- 2:36training meet people
- 2:38sort of thing and someone goes hey nice to meet you Hunter what
- 2:40do you care about
- 2:41and I said well I have a care about my wife Natalie my kids
- 2:45Griffin and Nolan and
- 2:46the Green Bay Packers and it was like a movie I had an aha
- 2:49moment I was like oh my
- 2:50gosh the word care is this terrible word because all those
- 2:55things were true and I
- 2:56SPEAKER_01: didn't lie about any of them however
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: That's totally different levels of how I feel about those things.
- 3:04The way I care about my wife is totally different than the way
- 3:07I care about the
- 3:07SPEAKER_01: Green Bay Packers.
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: However, the word care can be used for both.
- 3:12And then I realized anytime we talk about players in your
- 3:15culture and your locker
- 3:16SPEAKER_01: room,
- 3:16SPEAKER_01: your program,
- 3:18SPEAKER_01: we talk about them caring,
- 3:19SPEAKER_01: they may all genuinely think they do.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: But they don't understand the level of what you're talking about.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: So it's all about building awareness and starting from there.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: Talking a little bit more about care.
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: I know in the book,
- 3:30you kind of you put together kind of a formula that encompasses
- 3:35what that word
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: means in the varying degrees,
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: like you said,
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: may may be adjusted.
- 3:40Can you talk about those elements and why both are required and
- 3:44maybe even to what
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: happens when one of those elements is missing?
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
- 3:50SPEAKER_01: So I as I
- 3:52Tracked this thought down and I sat on it and I like visual
- 3:56representations so I
- 3:57came I was like I need a formula what is care now that I
- 4:00understand the disconnect
- 4:01what is it and I was like I think we all understand the verbal
- 4:05it's saying the
- 4:06SPEAKER_01: right thing so like I'm
- 4:08SPEAKER_01: Yes, coach.
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, coach.
- 4:10SPEAKER_01: I'll do it.
- 4:10SPEAKER_01: I'll make the exchanges, all those things.
- 4:13But we're missing the physical side of what care looks like,
- 4:16which is the work ethic.
- 4:17So the equation I came up with was very simple as care equals
- 4:21selflessness plus work ethic.
- 4:23you have to have both in my opinion to say like I care about
- 4:27this team genuinely
- 4:29and you have these people who maybe they're selfless they're so
- 4:33coachable Tony and
- 4:34they'll say yes coach every time they'll look you in the eye
- 4:37they won't talk back
- 4:38they'll do what you ask them to do and they think they care but
- 4:42those are the guys
- 4:42SPEAKER_01: that
- 4:43SPEAKER_01: Man, they don't really lift that hard.
- 4:45SPEAKER_01: They don't come in and shoot extra.
- 4:47They don't do anything above what's required and maybe even
- 4:50what's slightly below,
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: whatever they can get away with.
- 4:52But they assume just because I'm rooting for my teammates,
- 4:57I'm bought into the mission.
- 4:58SPEAKER_01: So that's one fallacy.
- 4:59SPEAKER_01: The other side of that is you have the work ethic.
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: I show up early to shoot.
- 5:04SPEAKER_01: I stay late to shoot.
- 5:05SPEAKER_01: I do the ice bath.
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: I do the lifts.
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: I do all those things.
- 5:08and I think because I work super hard I care about this team
- 5:12but every time you
- 5:12pull me out I shake my head or I hang my head or I don't say
- 5:16yes coach or I talk
- 5:17back or argue back I would argue that's just as destructive as
- 5:20a form of not caring
- 5:22and they both groups of people genuinely believe that they care
- 5:27about the team and
- 5:28the program and hearing that I'm sure you could imagine
- 5:32different athletes in your
- 5:33SPEAKER_01: program and going that's that kid that's that kid
- 5:36That's the problem is they would never confess that they don't
- 5:40truly care because
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: they genuinely think they do.
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: One of the things that we're trying to do is to help them thrive.
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: In order for them to do that,
- 5:49SPEAKER_00: you talk about in the book that they need to have autonomy,
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: competence and relatedness.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: I'd love for you to kind of elaborate on those three things.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: Well, autonomy is interesting.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: I think this generation needs more autonomy.
- 6:04Than Any Other Generation They Want To Be Able To Choose So
- 6:08Like Let's Just Take
- 6:09Video Games For Example They Used To Be Very Simple It Was Do
- 6:13This Task Play This
- 6:15Game Now If A Video Game Is Not What They Would Call An Open
- 6:18World Video Game Or
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: You Can Go Wherever You Want And Do Whatever You Want
- 6:22then they're not interested so as we've progressed kids want
- 6:26more and more autonomy
- 6:27so that's the ability to make choices now that's the hardest
- 6:31line to toe as a coach
- 6:33because you can't give away too much of your authority and
- 6:37decision making to 16 to
- 6:4022 year olds you just can't because they're not always gonna
- 6:43make the best decision
- 6:44so what things can you give to them warm-up shirt design
- 6:47pregame playlist warm-up
- 6:49SPEAKER_01: drills like you have to find
- 6:51What are some things along this path that I can give them
- 6:54autonomy on so they're invested?
- 6:57SPEAKER_01: And someone that's a little bit more seasoned in the career might go,
- 7:01SPEAKER_01: I'm not giving these kids nothing.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: What's your prerogative?
- 7:04SPEAKER_01: But every generation is different.
- 7:06SPEAKER_01: And that's what this one prefers.
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: Competency is really simple.
- 7:09SPEAKER_01: Are they improving at their skill and their craft?
- 7:12SPEAKER_01: And the relatedness is do they buy into who you are as a human being?
- 7:16Which Is A Topic That I Find Myself Talking About A Lot And I
- 7:20Wrote About This In
- 7:20The Book One Of My Favorite Stories In Sports Was The USA
- 7:24Basketball At The Last
- 7:25Olympics The Steph Curry LeBron Kevin Durant All This Stuff So
- 7:28I Watched The
- 7:29Documentary And It Gets To Serbia's Coach Nikola Jokic's Coach
- 7:34And He's Interviewed
- 7:35And He Says Something Along The Lines Of I Used To Be Able To
- 7:38Just Tell My Athletes
- 7:40SPEAKER_01: What To Do And They Would Do It Now They Have To Trust Who I Am
- 7:46SPEAKER_01: and what I'm about and what I'm saying before they'll do the thing.
- 7:49SPEAKER_01: So that's the relatedness factor.
- 7:53Just the way this generation is Tony and I'm sure I'd be
- 7:55curious to know what
- 7:56SPEAKER_01: you've seen because I'm sure you've done this for a while.
- 7:59SPEAKER_01: Are you seeing that too?
- 8:01Especially I think all three components of those have changed
- 8:04significantly since I
- 8:05started doing this and finding ways like you said I'm glad you
- 8:08gave some examples
- 8:09of the autonomy component of it because they do want to be able
- 8:15to have input on
- 8:16things but like you said it's not that they want to do that to
- 8:20the exclusion of
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: having you there.
- 8:22but if you're going to be there you better know what you're
- 8:25talking about otherwise
- 8:27they're just going to completely write you off and that goes
- 8:30kind of the middle
- 8:30component too is your competence is extremely important and
- 8:34staying like current on
- 8:35things as well breeds and help them grow in their competence as
- 8:39well so I'm on
- 8:41SPEAKER_00: board with all three of I yeah it's fantastic
- 8:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
- 8:44SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 8:44SPEAKER_01: the biggest thing is that we just,
- 8:46SPEAKER_01: I think we assume,
- 8:47SPEAKER_01: I talk to a lot of coaches,
- 8:49SPEAKER_01: that's been such a blessing.
- 8:50SPEAKER_01: So this book is not just me.
- 8:52SPEAKER_01: It's a product of communicating with a lot of people smarter than me.
- 8:56And me just having the vulnerability to say,
- 8:58I don't understand,
- 8:59help me understand.
- 9:00SPEAKER_01: And as I talk to coaches, they want to control so bad.
- 9:04SPEAKER_01: Like coaches are a proud group of people.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: Like they want control.
- 9:09SPEAKER_01: They don't want to give that away.
- 9:10SPEAKER_01: And a lot of these things are...
- 9:13what can what can you give them I understand you shouldn't give
- 9:17them everything
- 9:18what can you give them in what ways can you lower a wall down
- 9:21and a lot of people
- 9:22think this word care is this soft ooey gooey maybe feminine
- 9:28word and I struggled
- 9:29with that for the title of the book I was like are people gonna
- 9:32think this is just
- 9:33this sensitive soft culture type of book no I care about my
- 9:39kids and I discipline
- 9:40SPEAKER_01: them I discipline them hard
- 9:43I know coaches are familiar with this but it's something that I
- 9:55don't necessarily
- 9:56know that we talk a lot about in sports whereas we do talk
- 9:59about it a lot in
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: entertainment and I know in business and specifically in marketing that
- 10:05and that's just simply this idea of the hero's journey where
- 10:08you as the coach are
- 10:09really designed to be the guide that's there to help that
- 10:13person succeed but I
- 10:15think that a lot of times and think that either we're the
- 10:18actual hero of the story
- 10:21or the winning is the main thing and these are simply pawns
- 10:25that are going to help
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: us achieve that right nobody wants to hear
- 10:29The Sport Is About More Than Winning Or Losing Because That's
- 10:32Not True Either You
- 10:33Know I Work In A Lot Of Christian Sports Organizations And One
- 10:36Thing That Grinds My
- 10:37Gears Is When People Say Well It's Not About The Victories It's
- 10:41Like What Are We
- 10:42Doing Here Then If It's Not About Winning Or Losing Then I'm
- 10:45Going To Pack My Bag
- 10:46Up And Go Home Because I'm A Competitive Maniac And I Really
- 10:49Care About Winning Or
- 10:50SPEAKER_01: Losing But It's Not Forsaking
- 10:52The Human Being In Order To Win Or Lose So I Think There's A
- 10:57Very Clear Line That's
- 10:59This Is Right This Is Wrong And I Think What Right Looks Like
- 11:02Is Investing
- 11:03Everything You Have As A Coach Putting Your All Into It The
- 11:06Film The Prep All That
- 11:07Stuff Because You Owe That To Them But If They Don't Leave Your
- 11:11Program As A Better
- 11:13SPEAKER_01: Person With Life Tools
- 11:15then you really failed the mission regardless of what your
- 11:18record was so I think
- 11:19there's a lot of nuance into this which is why I'm glad we get
- 11:22to explain it and
- 11:23talk about it because I think people just knee-jerk reaction to
- 11:27the word care or
- 11:28soft or whatever those things and it just gets out of control
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- 12:31I find myself going back and forth with this next one and it is
- 12:34the idea of
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: electing team captains versus just kind of having them emerge.
- 12:40How did you decide to stop doing the selection of the captains
- 12:44and instead let the
- 12:45SPEAKER_00: leaders come to the forefront naturally?
- 12:48Well,
- 12:49I'm going to give away a story in the book,
- 12:50which is totally fine with me.
- 12:52I just want to help coaches out so really whatever so my first
- 12:56year as a varsity
- 12:57coach I walk I walk into the locker room I'm like man I'm about
- 13:01to take this school
- 13:02by storm we're gonna turn this thing around I'm 26 and I'm
- 13:05probably the youngest
- 13:06coach in the state at that point and uh I go all right guys
- 13:11we're gonna choose team
- 13:11captains what everyone does we don't even think about it we
- 13:14just do it team
- 13:15SPEAKER_01: captains and I just get this huge drama fight
- 13:20as a result and what happened was my best player by far was a
- 13:23sophomore and none of
- 13:25the seniors liked him because he was taking their minutes and
- 13:28also he's kind of
- 13:29like coach's dream and they didn't like that he was always yes
- 13:32coach and he got
- 13:33made fun of for that which is a shame and so we vote for team
- 13:36captains and none of
- 13:38SPEAKER_01: them vote for him he probably should have been
- 13:41SPEAKER_01: And he comes to me after they leave and he's upset.
- 13:44SPEAKER_01: He's like, Coach, I've put more work in than any of these guys.
- 13:47SPEAKER_01: I know that for a fact.
- 13:48SPEAKER_01: I care more than any of these guys.
- 13:49SPEAKER_01: I know that for a fact.
- 13:51SPEAKER_01: And I think it's bogus.
- 13:52SPEAKER_01: I'm not a team captain.
- 13:53SPEAKER_01: And I kind of sat there for a second and I thought about it.
- 13:56SPEAKER_01: And I said, Gus, I want you to go home.
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: I want you to think about what does a team captain do?
- 14:02What is upsetting you that you're not going to get to do that
- 14:05you didn't get chosen for?
- 14:07then come back to me tomorrow and we'll talk about it so he
- 14:09comes back to me the
- 14:10next day he walks into my classroom and he goes hey coach I
- 14:13know why you told me to
- 14:14think about that now I honestly don't know what a team captain
- 14:18even does and I
- 14:20thought about it too and I was like I don't know really what a
- 14:24high school team
- 14:25captain does I know there's captain's workouts there's a
- 14:28captain's meeting and I
- 14:29SPEAKER_01: thought to myself if you have to be named a captain to lead
- 14:33you're not a captain like if I have to physically name you hey
- 14:37you're our team leader
- 14:38SPEAKER_01: You're probably not a good team leader to start with.
- 14:40It should be something that someone rises up and starts leading
- 14:43and people naturally follow.
- 14:45SPEAKER_01: That's what real leadership looks like.
- 14:47SPEAKER_01: So from that day on, the rest of my career, no team captains.
- 14:49SPEAKER_01: We'd cycle through the pregame handshake line with whatever seniors.
- 14:53SPEAKER_01: And then I started thinking to myself,
- 14:55SPEAKER_01: man,
- 14:56I'm going to put the bottom of my rotation guys in these
- 14:59meetings because my
- 15:00SPEAKER_01: starters are losing two minutes of the game of warmups,
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: shaking hands and going over rules.
- 15:05And then the more I did that coaches started asking me they're
- 15:07like why are you
- 15:07sending those guys out there I explained they're like oh my
- 15:09gosh you're actually
- 15:11right on that one and I was like well there's an aspect of
- 15:14coaching I think that's
- 15:15not being afraid to step outside the box and think about those
- 15:18things so that's the
- 15:19SPEAKER_01: whole story behind the captaincy
- 15:22SPEAKER_00: This next one I call game winning plays versus the box score.
- 15:26SPEAKER_00: Rewarding effort and not just the sports center plays or a stat line.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: Ways to do that with your team are what?
- 15:35SPEAKER_01: In Wisconsin, where I was at, I was between Madison and Milwaukee.
- 15:40SPEAKER_01: And I was at a rural school.
- 15:42SPEAKER_01: And there's a lot of talent in Madison and Milwaukee.
- 15:44You're starting to see all these Wisconsin kids go to the
- 15:46college and NBA level at
- 15:47SPEAKER_01: a high rate right now.
- 15:49I knew I would never have the talent to win playoff games
- 15:52against these teams it
- 15:53just wasn't possible so it came down to how what can I win at I
- 15:58think it was the
- 15:59intangibles what I call winning in the margins what I don't
- 16:02call somebody else
- 16:03called it that I just use the word and I was like I gotta win
- 16:07games in the margins
- 16:08and that's just hustle and IQ so I'm toying with some things
- 16:12and one of the things
- 16:13I came to was the wall of hustle anytime someone took a charge
- 16:16dove on the ground
- 16:17SPEAKER_01: for a ball
- 16:18Chase Down and Transition whatever it was extra hustle related
- 16:22I screenshotted it I
- 16:24put it on the wall in our locker room and we call it the wall
- 16:26of hustle and for
- 16:27every year I coached that wall filled up and we had the most
- 16:30charges I think by far
- 16:31in our conference every year because they wanted to be on that
- 16:34wall and what I
- 16:35SPEAKER_01: realized as I'm collecting thoughts for this book was
- 16:38it was effective because I wasn't rewarding the points so
- 16:42everyone had a chance to
- 16:44get that stat and I think as coaches you owe it to your team
- 16:48your program to find a
- 16:50way to reward the things that everybody can do regardless of
- 16:55their scoring ability
- 16:57we went to that a couple years ago we got figurines and handed
- 17:01out figurines each
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: week at the beginning of each week got to the
- 17:04SPEAKER_00: A Quick Time Out
- 17:19SPEAKER_00: A Quick Time Out
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: of all ages to understand.
- 17:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I work with a lot of coaches now doing coach coaching, essentially.
- 17:56And the number one complaint I hear any conversation I'm in as
- 18:00this generation,
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: dot,
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: dot,
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: dot,
- 18:03SPEAKER_01: and you've heard it all.
- 18:04SPEAKER_01: So you could fill in the blank yourself.
- 18:05SPEAKER_01: And I started thinking to myself, like, I just don't like this.
- 18:08SPEAKER_01: Why don't I like this?
- 18:10SPEAKER_01: Because it's an excuse every generation, their parents said,
- 18:14Sucks you know like these the coaches the parents the teachers
- 18:18like these kids
- 18:19these days stink for us it was something for our parents it was
- 18:22something going
- 18:23back to like the hippie days you know like there's always
- 18:25something in every
- 18:27generation turned out okay like we're fine as human beings I I
- 18:32think I hope I am
- 18:34SPEAKER_01: and uh it so I don't think that's a
- 18:37Viable Excuse So What Do You Do With That Information You Have
- 18:41To Learn How This
- 18:41Generation Operates And I Talked About It A Little Bit But They
- 18:45Really Want To
- 18:45SPEAKER_01: Trust Who They're Getting Their Information From Because There's So Much
- 18:49Disinformation Out There You Have The New Cycles Of Social
- 18:53Media The AI Now Or
- 18:56SPEAKER_01: They're Just Like Is This Real Is This Not They Want To Know Are You Real
- 19:02SPEAKER_01: Are you the real deal?
- 19:03SPEAKER_01: Can I trust what you're saying?
- 19:05SPEAKER_01: If they can't, they're not going to listen.
- 19:08SPEAKER_01: And you might say, that's stupid.
- 19:10SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 19:11SPEAKER_01: It's not great.
- 19:12SPEAKER_01: But that's how it is.
- 19:14So we can either do something about it or we can complain about
- 19:17it and find zero results.
- 19:18SPEAKER_01: And I think there's a bunch of,
- 19:20SPEAKER_01: I saw college coaches in the last five years that said,
- 19:22SPEAKER_01: I'm out on this.
- 19:23SPEAKER_01: I just can't
- 19:25maybe it's NIL related maybe whatever it is but they're just
- 19:27like I can't adjust to
- 19:28the times like this I'm going to have to step back and I think
- 19:31that's fine but
- 19:33every generation had something so you have to learn as a staff
- 19:36and as a coach
- 19:37yourself how are we adjusting and I think a fine line is what
- 19:41things are we willing
- 19:42to sacrifice and say you know what we'll give you this and what
- 19:45things are you
- 19:46going to say no this is our standard regardless of how times
- 19:49change and I think
- 19:49SPEAKER_01: there's an appropriate level for each
- 19:51Is there a hill that you used to die on that you've learned to
- 19:55let go and build
- 19:56SPEAKER_00: better connections?
- 19:57I don't know how valid this hill is but it is pretty popular
- 20:00when I talk to people
- 20:00about it and that's color coordination you know shoes socks
- 20:05warm-ups things like
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: that like I really wanted my shoes to be coordinated the same color
- 20:12That Was A Hill Not Worth Dying On Anymore I Think Everyone
- 20:15That Could Relate To
- 20:16That Struggle I Really Wanted Tony For The Team To Have The
- 20:20Same Shoes And One Year
- 20:21My Team Gave It To Me I Was So Happy Like I Was Tickled But I
- 20:25Learned To Die On
- 20:26That Tie To That What About You The Shoes This Was Probably
- 20:30Only Three Years Ago So
- 20:31It's Not Like I Learned This A Long Time Ago But I Had A Son
- 20:35Who Became Interested
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: In Basketball And
- 20:37SPEAKER_00: and wanted neon pink and orange shoes.
- 20:40SPEAKER_00: And that basically was my turning of the corner.
- 20:42SPEAKER_00: I thought this is dumb.
- 20:44SPEAKER_00: It also kept me from having to buy team shoes.
- 20:46SPEAKER_00: They could just go out and buy whatever they wanted to.
- 20:48SPEAKER_00: So it actually saved me thousands of dollars as well.
- 20:51And I thought they're having more fun with this than me just
- 20:55holding on to this.
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: So it was the shoes just like it was with you.
- 20:58SPEAKER_01: But I will say the one, this is a high school thing.
- 21:02SPEAKER_01: I had noticed there were schools that started saying like,
- 21:05High Schoolers can sign out you don't have to ride the bus you
- 21:07don't have to show
- 21:08up to the JV game like that's a hill I would I will die on like
- 21:12we do stuff as a
- 21:13team as a program you ride the bus I don't care if your house
- 21:16is right next to the
- 21:17school we're playing you ride the bus you go to the JV game the
- 21:21JV players go to
- 21:21the varsity game I had parents just throwing a fit the first
- 21:25year I came in and
- 21:26SPEAKER_01: said that I couldn't believe it that that was the case and
- 21:29I said look like they're all in this program together if you
- 21:32want to play games
- 21:33without being a part of a program I sent them the link to the
- 21:36YMCA Rec League and I
- 21:37said you could sign up for this league and then you can show up
- 21:40whenever you want
- 21:42like that's one that I would not so I think there's good
- 21:45examples of things that
- 21:46SPEAKER_01: you're willing to sacrifice things you're not
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: I love practical suggestions.
- 21:50I love the practical exercises that kind of make you think
- 21:53through things as well
- 21:54SPEAKER_00: as your team thinking through things.
- 21:56SPEAKER_00: And you've included at least one of those in the book.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: At the end, you have the team culture development plan.
- 22:03Can you talk about the practical design of that and how you've
- 22:07encoded that with their teams?
- 22:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:10And the reason I included that was I had a young man reach out
- 22:13to me on social
- 22:14SPEAKER_01: media and said,
- 22:14SPEAKER_01: hey,
- 22:14SPEAKER_01: can you mentor me through this season?
- 22:17and I found it interesting because he was a JV coach and I was
- 22:19kind of like why is
- 22:20the varsity coach not mentoring you you know like that should
- 22:23be your mentor if I
- 22:25said yeah so we talked on the phone and I asked him and he goes
- 22:27he doesn't help me
- 22:28at all and I'm realizing I think that does exist out there so
- 22:32there's people like
- 22:33that there's new coaches out there and you just don't know
- 22:36where to start so it's
- 22:38SPEAKER_01: 10 days of just
- 22:40SPEAKER_01: Here's what I would do to have this conversation with your team day one,
- 22:44SPEAKER_01: day two,
- 22:45SPEAKER_01: day three,
- 22:46SPEAKER_01: whether it's goal setting,
- 22:47SPEAKER_01: whether it's talking about how you handle defeat,
- 22:49SPEAKER_01: handle a victory,
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: and all those things.
- 22:51SPEAKER_01: So it's just a place to start.
- 22:53SPEAKER_01: I think a veteran coach might look at it and go,
- 22:56SPEAKER_01: No kidding,
- 22:57SPEAKER_01: we do all these things,
- 22:57but what I found super interesting was I shared this book with
- 23:01a head basketball
- 23:03SPEAKER_01: coach of a Division II college,
- 23:04SPEAKER_01: and I asked him,
- 23:05SPEAKER_01: I said,
- 23:05SPEAKER_01: I want to know,
- 23:06because it's written from a high school coach with high school
- 23:09coaches in mind,
- 23:10SPEAKER_01: does this work for you?
- 23:12And he texted back like three days later,
- 23:14and he said,
- 23:14dude,
- 23:15I loved your book.
- 23:16I'm going to use your team development plan this year and I was
- 23:19like no kidding and
- 23:20like I don't want to disbarge myself but at the same time I was
- 23:22like no kidding
- 23:23like so I do think there is this we kind of pass on the
- 23:28fundamentals of coaching I
- 23:29think you mentioned it earlier we pass on the team culture all
- 23:32that stuff and we
- 23:33SPEAKER_01: think about the advanced things the analytics and the drills but
- 23:37we sometimes forget like we have to plan out our team culture
- 23:41we have to plan out
- 23:42these conversations they don't just happen so it's a place to
- 23:45start your season but
- 23:47it's on you to finish your season reality is is that all of us
- 23:50do have a culture
- 23:51it's just that some of us have a well-planned culture and
- 23:54others of us are just
- 23:55winging it that's been the biggest thing that I when I work
- 23:58with with coaches and
- 23:59coaches young coaches who want to work their way up having them
- 24:03just simply write
- 24:04Things Like This Really Causes Them To Focus On The Why Of Okay
- 24:09So Why Do You Do
- 24:10This And The Things Like The Shoes Or Like The Ride In The Bus
- 24:13Those Kinds Of
- 24:14Things Come To The Surface But I Think A Lot Of Coaches Instead
- 24:18Go The Other
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: Direction And Just Grab On To A Lot Of Good Things
- 24:22And maybe they're good and maybe they're not But they haven't
- 24:25really thought of the
- 24:26SPEAKER_00: underlying reasons behind that thing This is almost,
- 24:29I don't know why this is like revolutionary But it's like start
- 24:33from the very
- 24:34beginning and put this down And then we'll get all of the extra
- 24:38stuff that
- 24:38SPEAKER_00: everybody sees But I think it's just,
- 24:41SPEAKER_00: it's more fun,
- 24:41it's more sexy I don't know what it is to start with those
- 24:44other things And to get
- 24:45SPEAKER_00: those other things before you really get the foundational stuff
- 24:49SPEAKER_01: But it's like any drill you do,
- 24:51SPEAKER_01: I'm assuming there's a reason you plan the drill for that day,
- 24:55whether it's the progression of your offense or defense or
- 24:57something your team
- 24:57SPEAKER_01: needed.
- 24:59SPEAKER_01: I see this as no different.
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: My team's in a funk.
- 25:01SPEAKER_01: They're all hanging their heads after misses, after mistakes.
- 25:05SPEAKER_01: They're just not handling challenges well.
- 25:08SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's plan this out.
- 25:10Let's talk about how do you handle these setbacks and how is
- 25:13your mentality?
- 25:14SPEAKER_01: And we just hope
- 25:16It'll Fix Itself We'll Get There And It's Like No That's Just
- 25:19Not How It Works Like
- 25:21You Have To Plan These Things Out And Then Sometimes They Are
- 25:23Planned Out But
- 25:25They're So Advanced And There Are A Lot Of Like Reading Like
- 25:28I'm Going To Read This
- 25:30Article Or Something Like That It's Like That's Great And I
- 25:34Like That But You Need
- 25:35To Talk About You You Need To Talk About The Kids You Need To
- 25:38Have Vulnerable
- 25:39Conversations And I Think You Can Get That More By Just Being
- 25:42You Than Trying To
- 25:43SPEAKER_01: Find A PhD In Research You Know
- 25:45this could go on and on but I want people to stay curious
- 25:48enough to buy the book so
- 25:51first where's the best place for them to do that and then also
- 25:55can you tell them
- 25:55where they can connect with you and maybe either get in contact
- 25:58with you about
- 25:59SPEAKER_00: stuff or find some of the stuff that you're doing out there
- 26:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
- 26:03SPEAKER_01: So the book's on Amazon, and that's the point of sale.
- 26:07So you can get a Kindle paperback or hardcover copy and just
- 26:11search Care to Compete
- 26:12SPEAKER_01: Hunter Price.
- 26:13SPEAKER_01: It'll show up and it'll be on there.
- 26:15SPEAKER_01: My website is www.v3.com.
- 26:17V3 is Voice Vision Victory which is three things I think
- 26:23leaders have to do well
- 26:24and right now I'm in a really fun phase of planning out what's
- 26:29next here so we have
- 26:30this book I'm going to be speaking at the coaches clinic in
- 26:33Wisconsin a few
- 26:35SPEAKER_01: colleges a few high schools and just kind of starting that path so I'll
- 26:38if you need a speaker for a clinic no matter what sport I love
- 26:41to do that because
- 26:42it's really fun for me to do but we're also starting to develop
- 26:46so we talked about
- 26:46the leadership development plan like that for everyone so no
- 26:51matter what sport
- 26:52we're going to start developing workshops and coach clinics and
- 26:55things like that I
- 26:55have a team of some guys a guy that you know some friends of
- 26:59mine that are in the
- 27:00college ranks some college athletes and we're trying to put
- 27:03together this um
- 27:05I hope future of training coaches the right way so you can find
- 27:10it all on the
- 27:10SPEAKER_01: website I'm on X at Coach H Price I'm on all the things just Google my