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192: Zombie Attack · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Sir, this is Colonel Glover.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to disturb you at this hour, sir, but
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  Speaker 2: we're at Q2 status. It looks like we've found that
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  Speaker 2: lost consignment of Easter eggs.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, pretty sure. They've turned up in Louisville.
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting confirmations on this from the Louisville Police Department. Louisville, Kentucky, sir. Well, sir,
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  Speaker 2: it would be good news, except that the eggs have hatched.
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  Speaker 3: It's showtime, folks. Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 7: Our nuclear reactor, pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 7: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Lucy.
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  Speaker 9: I'm Ben.
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  Speaker 1: And we're here in.
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  Speaker 10: The middle of zombie attack?
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  Speaker 11: We're in the middle of the street here in Louisville
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  Speaker 11: and um.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what....
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  Speaker 6: We're waiting for this zombie event to kick off. One
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  Speaker 6: of the largest zombie walks, attacks, whatever, in the country. So,
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  Speaker 6: what is your take on.
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  Speaker 5: It so far, guys?
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  Speaker 8: Terrified.
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  Speaker 7: Amazed.
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  Speaker 1: And amused. It's awesome.
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  Speaker 5: Even funnier is you took the bus here, so... Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: on my way up here on the bus, a zombie
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  Speaker 5: got on. And I was just thinking that, you know...
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  Speaker 5: If you're the bus driver and if you don't know
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  Speaker 5: that this is going on, then that might be quite
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  Speaker 5: alarming to see a person with, like, a bloody ripped
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  Speaker 5: shirt walk onto your bus. But he didn't seem to care,
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  Speaker 5: so it was all good. This is awesome. Like, right
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  Speaker 5: now I'm looking at a zombie military Hannibal Lecter. And
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  Speaker 5: that was some kind of rabid monster zombie that I
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  Speaker 5: just ran by just now. That was also awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Facing small children. That's fun. Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's funny that this area in particular
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  Speaker 6: now is so used to it, because, yeah, I pulled
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  Speaker 6: up to the stoplight down the street coming here, and
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  Speaker 6: it was a good amount before it even started, but, like,
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  Speaker 6: the car that pulled up next to me, the girl
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  Speaker 6: in the passenger seat looked like she'd been brained with
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  Speaker 6: a hammer. And on a normal day, you'd be like,
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  Speaker 6: I hope they're driving to the emergency room right now,
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  Speaker 6: but here, you're just like, oh, hey, how's it going?
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  Speaker 6: It's sad that it's become so commonplace to see people
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  Speaker 6: in horrible, horrible, bloody mess, and.
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  Speaker 5: We're waiting in great anticipation because it looks like it's
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  Speaker 5: about to start. There's more and more zombies just crowding
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  Speaker 5: around us, and it's getting darker and darker, and it's just, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'm very pumped for what's about to go down.
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  Speaker 6: If you haven't noticed on this show, we like to
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  Speaker 6: go out into the world.
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  Speaker 1: We're not ones like many.
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  Speaker 6: Not to, you know, name any names, but a lot
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  Speaker 6: of podcasts like to live in their mom's basement. And
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  Speaker 6: we're a little better than that, I think, because we
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  Speaker 6: get out into the world and experience things. We're pretending
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  Speaker 6: to grow and become better people.
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  Speaker 1: We're not, but I mean, we're pretending. So, yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is another one.
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  Speaker 6: Of those episodes that I thought, you know, sure there's
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  Speaker 6: a zombie outbreak, but let's just conduct a regular old episode. So,
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  Speaker 6: as we go along, we're going to talk to some
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  Speaker 6: of these zombie people, but... Yeah, we're also just going
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  Speaker 6: to have our normal episode in the middle of this mess.
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  Speaker 6: So we'll take a break and come back with more
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  Speaker 6: crazy zombie activities.
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  Speaker 11: Let's all go to the lobby Let's all go to
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  Speaker 11: the lobby Let's all go to the lobby To.
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  Speaker 8: Get ourselves a treat Delicious things to eat The popcorn
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  Speaker 8: can't be beat The sparkling drinks are just dandy The chocolate.
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  Speaker 11: Bars and the candy So let's all go to.
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  Speaker 12: The lobby To get.
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  Speaker 9: Ourselves a treat Let's.
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  Speaker 11: All go to the lobby to get ourselves a treat.
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  Speaker 1: It never stops.
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  Speaker 6: All right, so we are here with Lindy Liu, the
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  Speaker 6: co-creator of this event. Truthfully, I've kind of done this before.
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  Speaker 6: The sad part is it's been, what.
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  Speaker 1: Six years?
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  Speaker 10: Six years, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's really weird because it seems like we just did this.
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  Speaker 6: But, yeah, it was in the early print days of
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  Speaker 6: the Out of These Stewies, which most of you don't
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  Speaker 6: know anything about, so we better start over. So I
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  Speaker 6: guess I will ask you, and you've probably answered this
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  Speaker 6: one a million times at this point, but how did
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  Speaker 6: all of this get started?
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  Speaker 13: This started because John King and I have the same
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  Speaker 13: birthday and we wanted to throw a rad birthday party.
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  Speaker 13: So we, uh, decided to do a zombie walk. Um,
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  Speaker 13: it was one of the first ones in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Yay.
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  Speaker 10: Whatever.
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  Speaker 13: Um, and, uh, we made tactical business cards and might've
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  Speaker 13: spray painted some things about it and almost a hundred
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  Speaker 13: people showed up for the first one. So then it
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  Speaker 13: became a reoccurring thing every year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Did you even plan on it being a event as
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  Speaker 6: much as just like your birthday party like just kind
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  Speaker 6: of event inviting friends and.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff that first time or what did you even have
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  Speaker 1: any idea what you were doing at that point no
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  Speaker 1: no we did not um or claim to now that's arguable.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah no no we we had no idea we were.
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  Speaker 13: Really shocked that 89 people showed up we thought we
• 7:55
  Speaker 13: were like wow i can't believe it And as I
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  Speaker 13: was just saying before we started filming, we were having
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  Speaker 13: almost that many policemen.
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  Speaker 10: Here this year to control the crowd.
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  Speaker 13: So we didn't. And then we got about six months
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  Speaker 13: out from when we did it the first year. And
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  Speaker 13: so many people had called us and stuff like that
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  Speaker 13: asking if we were going to do it again.
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  Speaker 10: So we thought we should.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, just being there the second year, it already had
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  Speaker 6: built up so much just notoriety at that point that
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  Speaker 6: it was amazing how many people showed up just that
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  Speaker 6: second year.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what the count was on that.
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  Speaker 1: But it was, I mean, compared to the first year
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  Speaker 1: when nobody knew about it, that second year it was huge.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed massive.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. For something that, you know, really hadn't even started
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  Speaker 1: getting press at that point.
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  Speaker 6: It was all just kind of word of mouth. And,
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  Speaker 6: you know, you guys just sort of spreading the word
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  Speaker 6: with flyers.
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  Speaker 1: We're very popular. And good looking. If you say so.
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  Speaker 1: And good looking. Oh, but yeah. So it's grown exponentially. Exponentially. Exponentially.
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  Speaker 10: Exploding it.
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  Speaker 1: Ridiculously? How about that one?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's amazing how much, you know, looking at how
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  Speaker 6: much it's grown over the years.
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  Speaker 1: So are you prepared? Have you been prepared for that?
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  Speaker 10: I don't know if we've been prepared for five years.
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  Speaker 1: No, we're, you know.
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  Speaker 13: We've got it pretty well down what we have to
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  Speaker 13: do every year to make it, like, safe and fun
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  Speaker 13: for everybody. It is an overwhelming amount of people, but
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  Speaker 13: that's kind of what makes it amazing.
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  Speaker 10: And everybody's really, like, good every year.
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  Speaker 13: Nobody, like, wants to come out and just destroy everything,
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  Speaker 13: you know.
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  Speaker 10: So it's been pretty good.
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  Speaker 13: We're partnering now with, like, the Monkey Wrench.
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  Speaker 10: So it's, like, we've got more space. It's much bigger.
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  Speaker 13: So, yeah, I think we're doing good.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing good.
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  Speaker 9: Definitely.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then just, you know, that's the planning end of it, prepared.
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  Speaker 6: Mentally, were you prepared for the kind of numbers that
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  Speaker 6: showed up?
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  Speaker 1: No. Second or third, or by the time you started
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  Speaker 1: getting just droves, like, what?
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  Speaker 13: The year that people tried to overturn the TARC bus
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  Speaker 13: was when I realized we were not prepared and needed insurance.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. So you don't think about that stuff.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 6: I can at least go to our main question. We
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  Speaker 6: were trying to think of something, you know, useful to
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  Speaker 6: ask people here. So, again, being the movie geeks that
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  Speaker 6: we are, the zombie outbreak, you know, happens. You're building
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  Speaker 6: your stronghold. You can only take three movies into the
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  Speaker 6: stronghold with you. What movies are they?
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  Speaker 10: God, really?
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  Speaker 1: Three movies? Hard question. Who only takes three movies? It's
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  Speaker 1: limited space. You've got food. You've got to plan ahead.
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  Speaker 1: If you're ill-prepared... A real movie geek would know better
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  Speaker 1: and would build an entire separate compound. Okay, so three movies.
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  Speaker 6: Three movies.
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  Speaker 8: Jeez.
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  Speaker 13: Okay, Shogun Assassin, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. This is a horrible question.
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  Speaker 13: It's a mean question, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Probably the.
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  Speaker 13: New Dawn of the Dead, and I know that's whatever,
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  Speaker 13: but you get to hear Johnny Cash, and I'm assuming
• 11:02
  Speaker 13: if you're an idiot and only have three movies that
• 11:03
  Speaker 13: you're not going to remember to bring music with you.
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  Speaker 10: So that's why, and it's good.
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  Speaker 1: It is pretty. And the third one, Die Hard. You
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  Speaker 1: can't go wrong with Die Hard.
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  Speaker 10: It's a Christmas movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's classic. It's Christmas.
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  Speaker 10: You might be in there for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Covers your holiday.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: That's a solid list.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't do it. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you.
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  Speaker 9: I'm doing an interview.
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  Speaker 1: He's a way better interviewee than I am.
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  Speaker 10: He's, like, clever.
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  Speaker 13: John, come here and be clever. So, yes, so you
• 11:40
  Speaker 13: come and sit down and be clever.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, thank you.
• 11:44
  Speaker 13: And ask him that damn question.
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: That's a hard question.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: She doesn't like my question.
• 11:49
  Speaker 10: I don't like that question.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, now we're here with John King, the other
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  Speaker 1: creator of this thing. I was going into that with her.
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  Speaker 6: What preparation did you, as you've gotten into this crazier,
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  Speaker 6: bigger event every year, what exactly can.
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  Speaker 1: You do to prepare for it?
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  Speaker 15: Oh, well, because it's gotten this big and it takes
• 12:15
  Speaker 15: place in the center of town and it moves, um,
• 12:18
  Speaker 15: the logistics are a nightmare and we work very closely
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  Speaker 15: with the city government and we have to work with
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  Speaker 15: all five major branches. Um, so we have to work
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  Speaker 15: very closely with the police, of course, traffic, uh, waste management, um, Everybody.
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  Speaker 15: And everybody has to sign off on it. The emergency services.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.
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  Speaker 15: And it's costly. They make us get millions of dollars
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  Speaker 15: worth of insurance to cover everybody. But we have still
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  Speaker 15: managed to keep it a free event where everybody is invited.
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  Speaker 5: But because of that, yeah, it's a ton of work.
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  Speaker 15: And I don't know if you've noticed, but my press
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  Speaker 15: photo this year was me hanging myself in the I
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  Speaker 15: did see that, actually.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of, you know... Put you in that frame
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  Speaker 1: of mind.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 15: It makes me feel that way a little bit sometimes,
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  Speaker 15: and that's where that came.
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  Speaker 4: Up, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that's what I was saying to her. It's
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  Speaker 6: something you never... I mean, that first year, you're throwing
• 13:23
  Speaker 6: a birthday party. You couldn't have imagined any of this.
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  Speaker 15: No way. But then you get a little of that.
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  Speaker 5: And it makes it all worthwhile.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, so, I mean, this has become one of the bigger.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was... far as I know, one of
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  Speaker 1: the earliest ones I'd seen in the country. We hadn't
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: heard of any when we started.
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  Speaker 15: I think later the second year we came across a
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  Speaker 15: website that claimed they had done one a few months
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  Speaker 15: before us.
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  Speaker 5: But we had no idea.
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  Speaker 6: And Pittsburgh has gotten kind of huge, but I'd say
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  Speaker 6: we're still probably one of the biggest in the country now.
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  Speaker 5: I would imagine.
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  Speaker 15: I looked up online and there's all these different people
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  Speaker 15: that claim different numbers and we're right up there. Last
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  Speaker 15: year we had Between 8 and 9, the city government
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  Speaker 15: said about 8,500, and that's about as big as any
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  Speaker 15: other one that we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: And that's amazing for this size city, too.
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  Speaker 15: Well, you know, Pittsburgh is the home of zombies. They
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  Speaker 15: can claim it as the birthplace, and I'm all right
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  Speaker 15: with that. So I can see where theirs will be
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  Speaker 15: pretty big, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're a secondary home of zombies. We're the other home.
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  Speaker 1: We're where we shipped the zombies after that.
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  Speaker 15: Well, you know, I mean, the two creators of Night
• 14:32
  Speaker 15: of the Living Dead, one was a Pittsburgh guy and
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  Speaker 15: the other one a Louisville dude, and, you know, Return
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  Speaker 15: of the Living Dead was right here.
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  Speaker 1: We're the second home of zombies.
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  Speaker 5: I'll take that.
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  Speaker 6: I did want to ask, the route has changed so
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: many times now. Is it because they keep wanting to
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: find a better way, or is it stuff that you.
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  Speaker 1: guys want to do it differently.
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  Speaker 15: The original we wanted to change it every year and
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  Speaker 15: then in the middle there got big and we kind
• 14:59
  Speaker 15: of kept to the same but we kind of outgrew
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  Speaker 15: the places we were before and we also need to
• 15:06
  Speaker 15: work more with the neighborhood and the city and we
• 15:10
  Speaker 15: all got together and figured the best way we thought
• 15:13
  Speaker 15: we could do it definitely cool keep it going we
• 15:16
  Speaker 15: got to make everybody happy yeah let's see anything else
• 15:22
  Speaker 15: What was the question that she thought?
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: The question she hates?
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: Again, I was just trying to come up with a
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: fun movie tie-in. So I was like, okay, the zombie
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: outbreak happens. You're building your stronghold. You can only take
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: three movies with you.
• 15:34
  Speaker 14: What are they?
• 15:35
  Speaker 7: Nice.
• 15:37
  Speaker 13: That's a good one.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: It's hard.
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  Speaker 15: Only take three movies.
• 15:42
  Speaker 9: No, I like it.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: I like it a lot.
• 15:43
  Speaker 15: Only take three movies.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: The Watchmen, number one.
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 15:49
  Speaker 15: V for Vendetta.
• 15:51
  Speaker 13: Nice.
• 15:53
  Speaker 15: And.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: Man, that's a good question.
• 15:59
  Speaker 9: Man, I don't know.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: What did she say? What did she come up with?
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: Well, it's just fun that of the two of you,
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: we've got two Zack Snyder movies, but different ones.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Oh, really?
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: She picked the Dawn of the Dead remake, so that's interesting.
• 16:16
  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: So what movie did she say?
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: She said Dawn of the Dead. She said the remake
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: of Dawn of the Dead.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good one.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Can't go wrong with that.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: That's classic.
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  Speaker 15: I'll tell you, of that series, the 2004 remake is
• 16:33
  Speaker 15: probably my favorite.
• 16:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 16:35
  Speaker 15: But, you know, for remakes, I thought that Savini's remake,
• 16:40
  Speaker 15: Annihilating the Dead, was.
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  Speaker 3: Really good, too.
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  Speaker 7: It is.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: Probably not as good as the original, but it was
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: really good.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: I have to say that I think the most impressive
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: thing is the upgrade for Barbara. I think she's so...
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: To me, I still love the original better. I think
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: that's the only thing it does.
• 16:56
  Speaker 15: I liked her hysterics, but in the remake, I liked
• 16:59
  Speaker 15: how fucking tough she got.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, true.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: And she's not helpless the whole time.
• 17:04
  Speaker 15: There it is.
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  Speaker 4: You did it.
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  Speaker 7: Ash.
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  Speaker 13: Nice.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess I will let you get back to
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the insanity here. We have Ash. Definitely. We'll forward those
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: on to everybody too. But yeah, thanks again. They only
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: come out at night.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: They're mean, rude, and dead.
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  Speaker 7: Not them. Them. Them.
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  Speaker 16: There's a hundred of those things out there.
• 18:30
  Speaker 12: How many did you say?
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: A hundred.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: The dead are refusing to remain buried.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: What are we going to do?
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: What are we going to do?
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: We're going to call the boss.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: They've come back to life. They're hungry.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: And they're not vegetarians.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: The graveyard out there is full of people coming out
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: of the ground.
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: We have a little problem.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: What the hell is going on here?
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: Rabbit weasels. What?
• 18:57
  Speaker 14: It's party time.
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: We got a party. It's party time. Do you want party?
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: They're back from the grave and ready to party.
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: It's party time.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: The return of the living dead.
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: We got a party. All the whippo on the floor,
• 19:19
  Speaker 9: but your A-bones busted and you threw the door, so
• 19:22
  Speaker 9: do the dance. Cheers.
• 19:30
  Speaker 10: We'll be right back.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: We'll be right back. I hammered down Mr. Generator's gems,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: but your pistons don't work to the dead.
• 19:46
  Speaker 11: Run for ten, the surfing dead.
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: Come on, turn it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: In, the living dead insist.
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: It's the latest twist to do the dead.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Can we ask you about the cars?
• 20:03
  Speaker 14: Hi.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: You can ask.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure. These are awesome. They are awesome.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I'm curious as to how you guys made these. They're
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: just amazing.
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: They're all caskets.
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: They are?
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: They're actually used caskets.
• 20:17
  Speaker 16: One of her boarders at her farm happened to have
• 20:20
  Speaker 16: access to them.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: And got them for us.
• 20:23
  Speaker 16: And her husband mainly worked on that and welded it
• 20:27
  Speaker 16: and added it to a go-kart frame.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's not really much to it.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: They are awesome, either.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: They're fun to play with. Do you think you should, like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: patent these and sell them to other zombies so they can, like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: you know, get around faster because they're all slow and shit?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: They're pretty fast.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: I think that'd be a great idea. That'd be a good...
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Good way to get some money.
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: So you have to kind of watch it. But no,
• 20:48
  Speaker 10: we've had people ask, and it's just kind of hard
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: to get the caskets.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: They're not cheap.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they're clearly made with love, right?
• 20:56
  Speaker 16: Yeah, you have to know somebody since they're used.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Understandable.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Pretty much when people get cremated and have an open casket.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So we have to use ones and clean them. That's
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a good one. reusing, recycling. Isn't that how you do it?
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: It's recycling. We've got a couple.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: We actually own a haunted house.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: Or a haunted attraction.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: So we just have a building with it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask our big question. So the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: zombie outbreak happens. You're building your stronghold. You can only
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: take three movies with you in the stronghold.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: What do you take? I don't know where to begin
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: with that.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It's a tough question.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Night of the Living Dead.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Classic. Zombieland, just because I have to.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: Nice.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: And Tremors, just because it's a screwed up movie.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Tremors is awesome.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I love the Tremors.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: That was a punishment as a kid, and now I
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: really like it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: It's like my mom would.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Make me watch it. We have a Tremors episode.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: We have one where we talk about Tremors forever.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. I'll have to look it. It's taped
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: in here, so I won't lose it. Yeah, it's epic.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Because if I don't do that, everything falls out of
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: my pocket, so I end up with things taped to me.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: Which opens.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: One of the downsides of having a go-kart, yeah.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Everything bounces around, and by the end of the parade
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: or this walk, I won't be able to feel anything, so.
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: Nice.
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: Awesome.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for talking to us.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: No, we just think you have very cool cars.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: They are very nice, very nice.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 22:46
  Speaker 16: In darkness you will find me. I dance among the dead.
• 22:51
  Speaker 16: But very soon I'll need to hunt the center flood instead.
• 22:57
  Speaker 16: Rising from your earth bed.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: It thickens in the air.
• 23:01
  Speaker 16: A smell gone sweetly rancid.
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: I know that you are near. Tonight, we'll make love
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: till we die. Tonight, we'll make love till we die.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Dave, I do not get superheroes.
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: Oh my god, I don't get you.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: What don't you get?
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: Towerbot here. Well, the meatbags were going to say that
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: if you're a geek and like podcasts, then you could
• 23:30
  Speaker 12: try Tower of Technobabble at www.toweroftechnobabble.com. Then this started.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: Well, it's up to you.
• 23:41
  Speaker 12: I'm gonna get my taser and put a stop to this.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Towerbot out.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, monkeys. It's knock time.
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: I know.
• 23:52
  Speaker 16: You think I'm nasty, but I am no common girl.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I once slept with the devil.
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: It was really no big thrill.
• 24:02
  Speaker 16: The passion of the killers would lie away from me.
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: Just show me my own meaning of death and ecstasy. Tonight,
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: we'll make love till we die.
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: I don't even know how to process any of this.
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: I honestly don't even... I'm overwhelmed. I'm at a loss
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: for words.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: There's a zombie fight going on over there with swords. Oh,
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: he's staggering out into the road. He's going to die.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, wait, he's already dead. Never mind. Scratch that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Undead.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, tell him your name.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Emily.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, so the zombie outbreak happens, obviously. Look around.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: And you're building your stronghold. You're building a compound. You're
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: loading up everything you need. You can only take three
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: movies with you for the rest of who knows how long.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: What movies do you take to your stronghold?
• 25:08
  Speaker 10: Return of the Jedi.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: All right. Royal Tenenbaums. different direction all.
• 25:16
  Speaker 10: Right yeah um oh gosh i.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: Like the range everybody else is throwing horror movies around
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: today so yeah you know.
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: Um oh that's a tough one um i don't know
• 25:32
  Speaker 10: yeah it's like there's so many to choose from you
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: know it's.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: A tough question i.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Know it's a tough question i don't know if i
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: can answer my own question.
• 25:42
  Speaker 10: Um yeah i don't know what the third.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: One would be Spin the wheel. What's the first one
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you think of?
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: The Godfather.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: All right. You can't go wrong with The Godfather.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: I figure that's what it'll come down to when the
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: zombie outbreak happens. You just got to start grabbing stuff.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: So the first one you grab, Godfather, you know.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Can't go wrong with that. That's true.
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: It's a classic.
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: And people die, so you'll still have that going on
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: around you. You'll feel at home, you know.
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: The zombie motorcade going by. Police on quad racers here.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Makes way for the zombie president.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what it's like, yeah. Zombie motorcade.
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Zombie Ronald Reagan is driving through town, and, you know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: it's very crowded.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Well, he can get shot and keep living, so he
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: might be the undead.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: I think he is. He looked undead before he was dead.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: A lot of presidents before they died looked just zombie-like
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: in general.
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: But, you know, as movie geeks, you have to like
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: him because he was in movies. And he liked Star Wars,
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder. A lot of people probably won't even get that.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Kids listening are just like, that dude likes Star Wars? Anyway.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: I wonder if Ronald Reagan ever saw any zombie movie
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: and liked it. I don't know why that question popped
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: in my head, but that would be an interesting little
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: piece of trivia to find out. You know, like maybe,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: you know, he was, I don't know what he was
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: doing as far as politics in the 70s or something, but,
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe he caught Don of the Dead on
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: TV and kind of dug it. Who knows?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: By then he was, like, governor of California probably.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, governor of California.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That happened to Arnold, so you never know.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: President Arnold right around the corner.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Just a minor adjustment in the laws and we can
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: have President Arnold.
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: Sure, sure.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: God help us.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: You'd vote for President Arnold Schwarzenegger, wouldn't you?
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: Sorry, I didn't know we were.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: This is happening.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: No, that was the right response.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Dumbfounded. No. God help us.
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: What was the question that I just failed to answer
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: because I was so preoccupied by the zombie apocalypse?
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: We made a connection between the governor of California becoming president,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: so President Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's a minor adjustment in the laws.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: We can make it happen. Are you down with that?
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: How did this thread go there? I don't even know
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: how we got here.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: We should probably get back to zombies.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't know.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: President, zombies, it's a mess.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I give up. They're getting cameras out. It might be
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: time for zombies.
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: It's pretty exciting.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Random people are walking by, so that means zombies must
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: be pretty close.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It has been established that persons who have recently died...
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: have been returning to life and committing acts of murder.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: The zombie outbreak has happened. Oh, God, the humanity.
• 29:03
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• 29:14
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• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Michael Kennedy from Movie Meltdown, and remember,
• 30:09
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• 30:22
  Speaker 7: It's part of your problem, you know, you haven't seen
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: And now, on with the show!
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: Don't be slow.
• 30:42
  Speaker 14: Okay, so we're back.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: And as promised, we're going to continue on with our
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: normal episode of Movie Meltdown in the middle of the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: carnage here.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: We just witnessed the crazy zombie... Some of it was
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: an attack. Some of it was just people strolling by.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: It was interesting. We do have a little bit of
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: blood on us. Any other takes on this nonsense we
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: just witnessed?
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: I am a bit upset about the blood. But, no,
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: this was awesome. Like, they had the circling helicopter... They
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: had the SWAT team, like, ready on the side by
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Dairy Queen in case shit got real.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't a pretend SWAT team.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: I think probably the best, like, zombie performances by far were, like,
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: the little kids dressed up as zombies. Like, they were vicious.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: They really did. Like, it looked like they were real
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: children zombies, like, out to kill me, and it was terrifying.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: But, yeah, I didn't see that coming. A lot of
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: strange and unique zombie outfits. I did see a zombie
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: in a tutu and a cowboy hat.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: There's all kinds.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: Very simple, but I have to give him credit for originality.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: That's very strange. It makes sense.
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: If you were a zombie, you wouldn't necessarily know how
• 32:26
  Speaker 10: to dress yourself.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: That's true. I didn't think of it in terms of, like,
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: a zombie looking for clothes. I always think of it as, like,
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: the person who died was wearing those clothes. So, like,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: that person must have been a weirdo, lives in his basement,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Buffalo Bill sort.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. I was, like, I was
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: trying to picture the circumstances in which the person was
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: wearing a tutu and put on that cowboy hat right
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: as zombie attack happened.
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: You never know.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, who knows? It's just.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: It just makes you realize that, yeah, you know, there
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: are the weirdos in the world who dress up, you know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: in basements. They're part of the zombie population as well,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: so you have to.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: This whole thing is built around weirdos that dress up.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: It's something to keep in mind, and I appreciate him
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: reminding me of that.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: Which, again, is my favorite part of our take on
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: it is, as usual, we showed up in our normal attire.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: We're just dressed like geeks like we always are, so.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: As you know, the zombie walk is an educational experience.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: It always is that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: Primarily.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: For everyone involved. I feel like I've learned something tonight.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: And I will cherish knowing that I got to see,
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: you know, a zombie cowboy tutu man thing. I don't
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: know what.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And cough and go-karts.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: But it was awesome, the whole thing.
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the kids are definitely my favorite part because they're
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: just inherently creepy being a child zombie. There's no performative
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: aspect necessary.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: That's what makes a good child actor is that natural
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: thing going on. You grow up and you lose that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: You try too hard. There was some trying too hard tonight,
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: by the way.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that usually kind of comes with it, too.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: You get people who aren't actors trying to act, so
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: you get that.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: It's usually how it goes.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: All right, I guess we can roll into our geek
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: activities here. I was trying to think of some stuff
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I'd done because we haven't really addressed much lately. So
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I think going back a few weeks, I did watch
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: The Girl from the Naked Eye. Is anyone familiar with
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: this movie?
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: I have no idea what this is.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It just came out like maybe the last month or so.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: It was just made this year. And it's got Jason
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Yee is our lead. And actually does a decent job.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: Like for somebody I didn't know of, and I kind
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: of looked, I guess he's done a little bit of
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: work in the past. But again, not really a big name.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: He carries it better than I expected for like a...
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: It may have gotten a theatrical run somewhere, but I
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: was assuming it was straight to DVD. So that's where
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: I saw it. It went immediately to Redbox somewhere. So yeah,
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: it's interesting because it... Number one, it's the cover of
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: the movie, and I'll get back to that. But as
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: far as what it is, it's trying really hard to
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: be like.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: A film noir kind of thing.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: It's film noir, but at the same time, it wants
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: to be a martial arts, kick you in the head
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: kind of movie.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, mashup.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: It's a different... And the thing is, in the end,
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: it's trying... I think that's the part that's difficult, is
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: it's trying... So hard to be Phil Noah. I mean,
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: it does the voiceover. It is him figuring out a murder.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's trying really, really hard to be that.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: Almost a little too heavy-handed on that end of it.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: But in the end, it's actually got a lot of
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: decent action stuff.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: It almost delivers on the action. He is seemingly trained
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: in it.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: What's funny is it doesn't follow any rules of a
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: normal martial arts movie. Usually it's kind of specific as
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: to what they're trying to do. Like, this one is
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: mixed martial arts at best. Like, it's the most use
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: of that term because they'll just be, like, straight-up kung
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: fu action, and then they'll just, like, punch them in
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: the face like it's a bar fight, and then they'll
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: headbutt them, and then my favorite part is then sometimes
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: they just shoot each other.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Like, they'll just throw the rules out the window and
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: just pull out guns. They're just like, okay, I mean,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I guess this is how it works in the real world.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: You try to win at any cost. You shoot people
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: if you need to. But it was interesting that, yeah,
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: it didn't even... pick a specific type of martial arts
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: or anything it was just barroom ball one minute then
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: a somewhat disciplined form of kung fu the next it
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: was very interesting uh as to the the cast the
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: other two people in the one again i've been guilty
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: of this twice in the past like two months now
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: i've watched a movie specifically because i went is that
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: dominique swain all right wow now i gotta watch it
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: it's got dominique swain in it.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I continue to be befuddled at every movie she's in.
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: I didn't even know she was still working.
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: She's turning up in a lot of stuff lately. But
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: at the same time, she... And this one has, like,
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: a scene and a half. Like, she is not at
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: all important in this movie. But what's even funnier... I mean,
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: to me, that's kind of like... She's way in the back.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Because the poster is, like, a big shot of Jason there.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: And he's doing his, like, kung fu.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: You know, he's Mr.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: Tough Guy stance in the front. And then you've got
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: her second character. And then off in the background is Dominique.
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: So I'm like, okay, she's not going to be a lead.
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: But the second person, the one that's almost as big
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: as our lead, is Miss Sasha Gray. That in and
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: of itself, I was like, okay.
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: So now we're figuring out why you watch this movie.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: No. Not that you can prove.
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: And if I was going to, that's not where I
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: would start. You've got to give her this.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: If you're going to pick a porn actress, porno actress
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: to act in like a real movie she is obviously
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: will be the best choice of of anyone probably it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: Doesn't look like most scary porn actresses so.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: If you have to go with porn actress in your
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: movie like you know at least don't go scrape the
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: bottom barrel go sasha gray you know do the best
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: you can yeah so it could be worse.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: But no that was my thing is like i know
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: she's trying to get into legit acting she's trying to
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: pull a tracy lords i guess and become a actress
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, this is interesting. We'll see
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: what they do with her in this.
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: That's even funnier, especially because she's almost as big as
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: he is on the poster there and the cover art.
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: She has maybe a line. Basically, the door opens. She's
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: in an elevator. He gets on the elevator. She asks
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: him a question. Some sort of craziness ensues on the elevator.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: She stands there in the elevator the whole time.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: He gets out. The doors close.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: That's the entire performance of Sasha Gray in the movie.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: Sorry to spoil that for you. That's probably more of
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: a heads up to you, though. If you're looking for
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: a hot Sasha Gray movie, this is not what you're
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: looking for.
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: So she's sort of a glorified extra.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Well, I guess it's more of a cameo. I mean,
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: I guess if you know who she is, you're like, hey, look,
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: there's Sasha Gray. But the fact that they're marketing it,
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: like the fact that she is massively featured on that
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: poster slash video box that just like they're trying to
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: sucker people in with, hey, look at this Sasha Gray movie.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, she's got no scene. She is a
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: cameo at best. So that I think I thought was
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: more entertaining was the marketing angle on that movie. Because, yeah,
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: at least Dominique has a good amount of speaking lines.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: And she's in an extra portion later. She comes back.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: So she's got a little bit of screen time. And
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: she's way off in the background there. But, yeah, they
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: heavily market Sasha. So I thought that was interesting. Maybe
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: more than the movie.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, let's see. What else? Other than that, let's see.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I did watch Cypher. Have you seen Cypher?
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: Wait, who's in that?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Um, Jeremy Northup? Lucy Liu?
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: What's it? Okay, I probably haven't seen it. Lucy, once
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: you named Lucy Liu, I was like, I've only seen
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: maybe two movies from getting to end that she's been in.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the, I mean, I remembered this mostly because
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: of the director.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: The director is Vincenzo Natalia, who actually did Cube and
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: sort of made a name for himself pretty early on.
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: So Cube wasn't, wasn't his first movie.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Cube was his first movie. And then this is like a,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: like right in the middle.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: Like he did two other, like one that I watched
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: the trailer for and it's, I think it came after
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: Cypher and it looks like a really, like a much
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: smaller movie.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: It looks like one that he did almost independent.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Like, and then like Cypher was, I guess the full,
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: I think he'd done some short films, but otherwise I
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: think it's like the followup to Cube and it's a
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: much bigger, like just production wise. Like it's, it's, you know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: It's still got a relatively low budget, but it's got
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: two recognizable actors as leads. And then as you go
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: into it, it's got pretty impressive... Again, for a minimal budget,
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: it's got some pretty impressive sets. And some of the
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: effects that they do, they have to work in some
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: things that are kind of weird as it goes on.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: And for a minimal budget, he's done some pretty good stuff.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: Again, I like the last thing he did, notably because
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: we did a whole episode on it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: He also is the director of Splice. Did you see Spice?
• 41:41
  Speaker 10: I enjoyed Spice very much.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I like Spice. It's a fun movie.
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: I think it knows when to cross the lines and
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: be kind of ridiculous, and I think it has fun
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: with that. But at the same time, it's really well made, too.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: So I think that's, he really is kind of a
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: talented director. But this one is just sort of weird.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: It's like corporate espionage kind of thing. Like it's, Jeremy
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: Northup's like this super mild-mannered kind of guy, and then
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: he like He's secretly, like, his wife doesn't even know
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: he's going in for these job interviews to get on
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: with this mysterious company. And then the mysterious company makes
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: him go through all these weird tests. And then he, like,
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: gets on. And then basically they're sending him to meetings.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: And he thinks he's, like, recording stuff and, like, trying
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: to get information about other companies.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: And he's trying to steal their information. Again, all of
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: this is so generic.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: And then as you get into it, I guess that's
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: part of the plot. And then there's, like, other companies, like,
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: trying to... and doubles back around. In the end, I
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: think that was my problem with it. It tries so
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: hard to be tricky that it overcomplicates it to the
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: point you kind of don't even care anymore. I think
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: if he would have taken a few of the twists out,
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: it probably would have been a more interesting movie.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: If you would have.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: Focused a little more on the characters, because I think
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: he does a good job as far as he's the
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: super mom-manor guy and he realizes he's becoming a different...
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: They give him a new name and they send him
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: off on these jobs and he's in a different town
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: and he doesn't know anybody. and he realizes he can
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: become a different person. So he actually, like, adopts a
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: new personality along the way, and that's kind of interesting.
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: And Lucy Liu's just sort of this weird, mysterious person
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: working for some higher-up somewhere, some group. You know, it's, like,
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: all of it's so, like, confusing midway in that eventually
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: it all, you know, pans out. But, yeah, halfway in,
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: you're just like, I don't know what a lot of
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: what they're trying to do here, but it's kind of interesting,
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: so I'm sticking with it, so... It's certainly not perfect,
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: but it's well made. Again, it shows he's definitely a
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: good director. Especially for it to be a second movie.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: He's definitely a director I need to look out for.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Because I really like Splice. I really like Cube a lot.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: This is about all he's... I didn't know he did
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: that in between. I honestly thought that Splice was his
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: follow-up to Cube.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I think he did two other ones.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: I feel like Cube.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: Like the individual moments of suspense are so great. Like
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: some of the most suspenseful scenes that's like I've seen
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: in any movie, like in, you know, that I would say,
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: you know, the last 10 years or so, like really,
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: you know, gut wrenching scenarios where these people have to
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: go through these death traps, but as a movie, it just,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: it doesn't come together so well. Like, you know, understandably
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: because it's a lower budget kind of, you know, first
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: feature that some of the acting's a little rough and everything.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: but it's a really cool original concept, but as a movie,
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: like it didn't quite gel together and splice. I liked
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: a lot. Cause it felt like, like this is the
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: only like weird since Cronenberg is probably never going to
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: direct like a really weird, you know, Cronenberg, Cronenberg like
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: type movie sort of gotten away from that now.
• 44:52
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: This is, I'm like, this is probably the closest we'll
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: get to that. Um, But at the same time, I
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: did think it was a little underwhelming. Actually, some people
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: thought it got too weird. I think it should have
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: gone even weirder. The ending kind of... just like it.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Gets a lot more traditional and it does.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: It becomes more like a structure just you know we
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: standard monster beave movie which is fine like it worked
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: well on that level but I'm he's just one of
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: those directors like I've seen like so much that I
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: love in the movies that I've seen so far I'm
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: I think he has like a masterpiece in him.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah well that one the more interesting part is the
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: middle where they're sort of questioning everything they do and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: yeah crossing lines they don't need to be crossing several
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: right so yeah I I He definitely is really interesting.
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: And I think you can see, like, he's sort of
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: him getting his legs and kind of getting a feel
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: for things. Because even there's a big improvement, I think,
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: in the way that Cypher plays versus Splyce. I think
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: even in that, you know, a couple of years and
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: making another movie in between, he gets better.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: So I am kind of looking forward to seeing where
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: he goes with, you know, the next movie.
• 45:53
  Speaker 13: I agree, yeah.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: So that's most of what I have watched. Are you
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: next up?
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean... I've just been kind of on, I
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: guess because for obvious reasons, I've been kind of going
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: back and watching some Tony Scott movies. I missed half
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: his stuff. He's just one of those directors, like, I
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: always knew, like, you know, I liked the movies I
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: saw of his. And I knew I hadn't seen half
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: of them. I was like, oh, I'll get to them later. Like,
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: I never thought much of them. But as I'm reading
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: all these tributes to him and, you know, the movies
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: of his that people are mentioning... I'm like, you know what?
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: I really need to see The Last Boy Scout. I
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: need to see Unstoppable. Because apparently these are really fun, like,
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: just well-directed action movies. And, you know, I'd like to
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: check them out. So I've been kind of doing some backtracking. Like,
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: I rewatched Men on Fire, which I didn't know what
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: to think of at first. But I think it's a really, like,
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: people didn't give that movie enough credit for being, like,
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: a hard-boiled, like, just fucking intense revenge movie. Like, it
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: goes all the way as far as the, like... like
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: almost Korean revenge, you know, like that level of intensity.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: And it's a big, for a big, for like a
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: Hollywood studio movie. Like he, it's, it's kind of amazing
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: to see how far like Denzel Washington, Washington goes with
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: the ass kicking in that one. So I thought that
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: was really underrated. And that one seems like it got
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: more respect as it went on. Like it didn't do
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: well when it opened. And like, I was like everyone
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: else when I first saw it that, you know, when
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: I first saw how crazy he was, that, that was
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: kind of, I think that movie is interesting because it
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: marks a weird turning point in his movie making where
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: he did this weird like saturated move. I don't know
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: what the effect is, but it's like a blurring of
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: the camera and it shifts and there's like a speed
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: up and it slows back down. And then like when
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: people are talking, you see words like text on the
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: screen as they say lines, which I think only Man
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: on Fire did that. But as far as like that
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: camera thing movement, like he did it in Domino. He
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: did it in Taking a Pill Hound.
• 47:51
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: Remake. I think he did an Unstoppable remake. also but
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: it's weird no i thought like that was i liked
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: it better the second time around and uh and i
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: forgot that mickey rourke was in it and then that
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: made me want to go like re-watch mickey rourke's older
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: movies from the 80s so and so i ended up
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: re-watching angel heart and barfly nice um which i like
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: those movies a lot i think those might be his
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: best i haven't watched maybe his two best i don't
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: know I haven't.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Watched it since, but Barfly was really hard to get
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: through at the time.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: It was so depressing. For some reason, I also thought
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: of Barfly because we're talking outside a bar here and
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: we just got done with a zombie walk. And I
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: feel like Barfly, he behaves like a zombie in that movie.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: He had to, as far as acting research, looked at
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: a lot of zombie movies and how they move and stuff.
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: Instead of eating people, he just beats people up and
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: gets drunk a lot. But basically, the whole movie is
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: just Mickey Rourke, you know. trudging around like a zombie
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: in LA and it's, it's really interesting and it's, it's
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: honestly what probably one of my favorite movies he was
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: in and Angel Heart is just, you know, just, it's
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: a whole different thing. It's a whole different thing but
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: it's still, it creeps, you know, it gives me chills
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: when I watch it still.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's visually, I mean.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Alan Parker, I mean, he's, I like the way
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: his movies look. I mean, he's, he gets a lot
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: of shit as a director, I think, but, uh, that's definitely,
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: a lot of good stuff especially after i think he
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: did uh like he did midnight express and uh some
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: other famous movie in the 70s early 80s and then
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: kind of tapered off but i think angel heart is
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: like up there with his best even though it's like
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: later 80s but yeah that's those are just been kind
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: of like nothing in specific just kind of re-watching a
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: bunch of shit this past week?
• 49:36
  Speaker 10: Side note on Barfly, like, I guess Bukowski wanted Sean
• 49:40
  Speaker 10: Penn for it, and I think about that a lot, like,
• 49:42
  Speaker 10: what a different movie that would have been, and what
• 49:44
  Speaker 10: an inferior movie it would have been.
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think, I think Sean Penn, to be honest,
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: I think he was at a mode, judging from the
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: other movies he was in back in that period, like,
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: he was kind of hamming it up in a lot
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: of the stuff he was doing. Unlike the rest of
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: his career, when.
• 49:56
  Speaker 10: He's known for being understated and nuanced.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: So subtle.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that's true. He does, I mean, he goes,
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: I just, I am Sam just popped in my head.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, you're right. Okay, I am Sam. I'll
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: give you that. But like, yeah, I think, you know,
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: he was kind of this, I feel like every movie
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: in the 80s he was in, he was always this
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: hothead who was screaming his head off. And he just,
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: Mickey Rourke, like, I'm sure he would never want to
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: admit it. And if I ever, you know, told him
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: this to his face, he'd probably punch me out. It's weird.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: I don't know Mickey Rourke. He probably lives thousands of
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: miles away from me. But it's always like, I have
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: this weird, intimidating feeling. I don't want to talk shit
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: about Mickey Rourke. He'll find me. Like, he's an intense guy.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: But no, like, I feel like he probably, you know,
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: if any actor had been there or could relate to Bukowski,
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: it would have been Mickey Rourke, you know? He, you know,
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: he knows what it's like to probably be fucked up
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: in an alleyway, having just gotten his ass kicked, drunk
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: off his ass, and then getting up the next day
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: in his own vomit and walking right back into the bar.
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 50:52
  Speaker 10: But still being beautiful. Like, there's something so.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: Lovely and soulful about him. That was probably the last
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: movie before he got, like, he went into boxing. I mean,
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: that was... It was like 89?
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Not physically, right?
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: He's lost that now.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: And the irony, that's so weird. Like that movie Johnny Handsome,
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: like that's so ironic. What he looks like in that movie,
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: like the makeup in that movie, like dude, that's exactly
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: what you look like in the year 2012. I want
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: to get in a time machine and be like, but again, yeah,
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: even saying that, I'm like, oh God, make your work.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: I hope he never hears me.
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: Seriously.
• 51:24
  Speaker 10: He is a lover. He is not a fighter.
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: He is a lover. He's a sweet guy. He's real cool.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: And he still turns in great performances.
• 51:32
  Speaker 10: Oh, no.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: He's one of the greatest.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I won't pretend like I haven't talked shit about the
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: way he's looked in the last several years. But, I mean,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: he's still a good actor. Oh, yeah.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: He's a great actor.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Even through all that.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: It's like even aside from you should be like repulsed
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: by just looking at him. He's such a good actor,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: he still wins you back over, and that's impressive.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean, like, and he's, you know, he's
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: given some, like, he's phoned in some performances, understandably, like
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: in the 90s, and even in the 80s, he was
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: kind of miscast, just because I think, you know, he
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: didn't know, because he never, he was that guy from
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: the streets, he didn't really, he never wanted to be
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: that professional actor, you know, with an agent, you know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: he didn't want to go through all that, so I mean,
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: I feel like he would just get stuff on a whim,
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: and not really feel like going into, like, what was
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: that IRA movie where you had to have the Irish accent?
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: It was atrocious. Like, his accent was so bad. But
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: at the same time, if you got past the accent, like, yeah,
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: I really believe him as a character. He's that good. But, yeah,
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: he's just awesome. And Barfly is up there, definitely. It's
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: one of his best performances. Angel Heart, too, I think so.
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: That was just a weird, depressing time in Hollywood, I guess,
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: because I'm pretty sure, if I'm remembering correctly.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: In that span of a couple years, we had Barfly
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: and Ironweed come out.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: Oh, now what's Ironweed?
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of that one. It's kind of that
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: same movie. I remember finding both of those hard to
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: get through because it's just two people drunk in a
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: bar the whole movie. Ironweed was like the Jack Nicholson version.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: It was like him and Meryl Streep, wasn't it?
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: Again, it's just depressing stories and being drunk in a
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: bar your whole life.
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: These are just... These are rough watches. Also.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: Those are my favorite movies.
• 53:17
  Speaker 10: Seriously, my favorite movies are Drunk People in Bars.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: They're so great. Like, the character... They're such great character studies.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: And also, let's not forget, Frank Stallone, his moment of glory.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Can we forget?
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: As the guy who's just like, you want to get
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: beat up, bum?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: the whole movie he's just Mickey Rourke's just talking shit
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: to him you know challenging him to a fight and
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: it's just great but yeah that was just I did
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: not I mean for like until I guess before The
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: Wrestler I had no idea like the kind like as
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: far as his movie resume like what he did before
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: this whole you know later era of Mickey Rourke with
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: a different face these awesome movies like Barfly and Angel
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: Heart and Johnny Handsome And what else? I guess Pauper
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Greenwich Village. That was a really good one. I just
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: watched Rumblefish, which I had mixed. I have some issues with,
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: but it was still awesome.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I want to go back and rewatch. I barely remember.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: He's definitely the best part of the movie. The first,
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: I'd say the opening 30 minutes are just.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: Amazing like one of the like it it starts out
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: like there's a great movie in that first 30 minutes
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: and then it just turns weird and has this abrupt
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: awkward ending that i didn't think resonated or made sense
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: but yeah mickey rourke was awesome he his character like
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: he was he was colorblind and deaf which was weird
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: uh which explained why he was you know he's talking
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: like this you know why why you gotta get fucked
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: up all the time it's like dude take it up
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: a few decibels you're like oh he's deaf okay that's
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: I understand.
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: No offense to any deaf listeners we had.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:00
  Speaker 10: Sorry.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: Sorry. I don't want to insult the deaf or anything,
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: but I just, Mickey Rourke was just mysteriously talking in
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: a low volume for the first half of the movie
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: and not till like in the middle where they like, oh,
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: by the way, he's deaf. I'm like, oh, okay. Well,
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that. I thought they just had this,
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: the mic, the boom mic was being shitty or something.
• 55:18
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: But yeah, those are some great movies. And he's still
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: like the wrestler. It's an amazing movie. Man on Fire,
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: I just watched that. He had a tiny part in that,
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: but he seemed like a... I don't even remember. He
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: was like a bad guy.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: The Expendables.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: The Expendables.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Is he even.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: In the second one?
• 55:38
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: Everybody else is.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: Everyone else is.
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: He might as well be. I'm sure he came back.
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: He shows up at some point.
• 55:43
  Speaker 10: I just love, I always think that it's impossible for
• 55:45
  Speaker 10: Hollywood to make another movie that he can be in
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: looking the way he does, but they do. I love
• 55:49
  Speaker 10: that they're like catering to him in every role.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah. They're like, we love you, Mickey. Like he's a, no, seriously.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: He's like a, what do you call it? What's the word? Um,
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: can't think of the right word. Um, not a staple,
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: but just, uh, it's like they look out for him,
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: you know, they, they want, they want one of their own.
• 56:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: He's one of their own. He's like all the, this
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: generation of actors or producers, they're like, oh, I grew
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: up watching Mickey Rourke. He's, you know, he's one of
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: the best. Like, he was up there with De Niro
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: for a time, and he just kind of, you know, disappeared.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: Let's hire him.
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: He's got one of those comeback stories that I think
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: Hollywood kind of likes.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: He is the comeback story.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: And audiences really like. So I think, yeah, that carried
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: him a while.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: Forget John Travolta.
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's getting to a point he's going to have
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: to do something not expendable to sort of keep it going.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, that was a couple of years after that.
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: Everybody kind of loved him just because it was a
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: comeback story.
• 56:42
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: The wrestler, I mean, that was almost mythic how hard
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: he came back with that movie. It was amazing.
• 56:47
  Speaker 10: He made that movie, I thought.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 56:49
  Speaker 10: I don't know if you guys saw Big Fan. Was
• 56:51
  Speaker 10: that the name of the film?
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 56:52
  Speaker 10: Patton Oswalt, the writer did after that. I felt like
• 56:55
  Speaker 10: that movie, well, see, I didn't like it. And I
• 56:57
  Speaker 10: felt like that movie was the movie the wrestler would
• 56:59
  Speaker 10: have been in.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: It needed a director.
• 57:01
  Speaker 10: It had the gravity of Mickey Rourke.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: And it needed Mickey Rourke. You know, Patton Oswalt was
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: fine in it and everything, but it needed Aronofsky and
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: It definitely needed Mickey Rourke to be that amazing on
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: that level.
• 57:11
  Speaker 10: I kind of hate Aronofsky, so I'm giving.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: It away to Mickey Rourke.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: Well, see, I know. I was iffy on Aronofsky before
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: The Wrestler. I think between this and Black Swan, I
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: hope he stays with this raw kind of handheld visual style.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: I definitely prefer it over, say, The Fountain or Requiem.
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: I don't know why. Maybe it gives more room for
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: actors to be like give these performances like Natalie Portman.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: And I don't know what you guys thought of her
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: and black Swan. I thought it was good. What did you,
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: what did you, what were your thoughts?
• 57:44
  Speaker 10: It was really over the top for me, which I can,
• 57:46
  Speaker 10: it was, it was like, if somebody commits to being
• 57:48
  Speaker 10: over the top and they're like, it's a very director,
• 57:50
  Speaker 10: then I'm awesome with that. If they're like, I'm a
• 57:52
  Speaker 10: Harvard educated intellectual and this film is actually important. I'm
• 57:55
  Speaker 10: not okay with that. Like it was a silly movie.
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: I thought it's very silly. It's very sensationalistic. I think
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: maybe because I saw in theaters, And it's like maybe
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: because of the big screen seeing that stuff. I was like, whoa,
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: my mind is blown. Maybe if I were to see
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: it on TV, I'd be like, oh, this is kind
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: of– he's blowing smoke up our ass with a lot
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: of this.
• 58:11
  Speaker 10: But I remember being in the theater and people snickering
• 58:13
  Speaker 10: at moments they weren't supposed to snicker. I still don't know.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: How– I love, though– I mean, in this kind of way, like,
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: I do think he wasn't– he wasn't being as pretentious
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: as I thought he could have been like he wasn't
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: afraid to be he wasn't the fountain pretentious yeah it
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: wasn't the fountain pretentious he wasn't afraid to go like
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: just skeezy like you know like showgirls level of just
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: like we're gonna actually you know unabashedly show you this
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: just gratuitous you know long sex scene between these you
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: know two hot actresses and you know I'm not gonna
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: you know it doesn't mean anything it's just there you
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: know like he didn't he wasn't pretending to it you
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: know it wasn't too high-minded I guess it wasn't afraid
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: to just be batshit Which, I was fine with. The fountain,
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: you know, that was just too, I don't even want
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: to talk about it.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I think he's just like that. I think, because everything
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I've seen of his, and I've missed a few, I think,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: but in general, I think he's just, I think he
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: is very talented, but at the same time, he can
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: be super pretentious. Oh, yeah. You've got to be kind
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: of okay with.
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: Knowing what you're getting yourself into with his movies, because
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: I know people that love what he's doing, and then
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: people that are totally turned off by the really over-the-top,
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: in-your-face stuff that it comes and goes.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Like, he doesn't have to do that.
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: He can do very normal scenes and then he can
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: do stuff that is just chewing on the cellulite.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he definitely, he definitely gives the whole idea of, like,
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm an artist, that kind of director. Like,
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: he definitely, he's the reason that that's, like, mentioned in
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: the pejorative, you know? Like, he's the worst example of that.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: But yet, still kind of talented.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: Like, art directors.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: If he was a total hack, I would just call
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: him out. But I'm like, Some of this stuff looks
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: really good. Even when it's going over the top and
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: trying too hard, it looks good along the way.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: Exactly. Like, real art directors who I don't think are
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: showy at all but, like, are legitimate, like, they put
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: out good art and they're not, like, in your face
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: about how great an art... Like, people like David Cronenberg,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: I'm sure they get pissed off when a guy like
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: Aronofsky hugs all the, you know, the faming... attention or whatever.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: It sounds like he gets pissed off at a lot
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: of directors lately. Did you guys hear that, Owen?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, well, you know, that's to be expected from him.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: He was kind of... He's been.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: Talking shit about.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: He was giving shit to Nolan for doing a superhero movie.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: He was being kind of a snob about it.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: In his defense, I do realize that, like, yeah, okay,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: you know, I like Batman, I like The Dark Knight Rises,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: but I do think a lot of what that was
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: was him... having his release date of this movie, he
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: knew wasn't going to make money. And he's just on
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: Team Cosmopolis. His whole cast is like, we're rooting for
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: this movie.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: We're in competition with this other movie. We'll talk shit.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: That's part of it. We want it to make money.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: And I feel like he wouldn't be outwardly talking shit
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: about Batman if it weren't that his movie was coming
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: out at the same time. It's almost unfair. He's like,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: damn it.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, he had to know when that was
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: going out.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, he.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: We've all known for two or three years now.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but he didn't plan on his movie being released.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 10: Has anybody seen Cosmopolis?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: I'm so... No, I'm gonna hopefully see it here in
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: the next week. I'm gonna plan to go to Trip Chicago,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: and it's playing somewhere up there while I'm there. I definitely...
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: I'm so stoked about this movie. More than I think
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: most people are, because it's been getting kind of mediocre...
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: I love.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 10: The reviews it's been getting, by the way. Yeah.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: They're so, like, cliched, like, he's a bloodsucker, only this
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: time a capitalist bloodsucker. Like, it's like, oh, really? You're
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: not going to try any harder than that?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 10: I was on an airplane. This is the excuse that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 10: I'm going to give for reading an Us magazine, but
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: I was on an airplane, and there happened to be
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 10: an Us magazine nearby, and I read the review section,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 10: and the review was so just blissfully clueless, like so confused,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 10: like really confounded as to why Edward, is that the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 10: character name, would be in this film. They were like,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: we don't get it. It's like nowhere near as good
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 10: as Twilight.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: How come he never.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: How come he never get out limo when he get haircut?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: Why don't he, he should be vampire more. Where's the van? Like,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know. That's just, I just imagine that reviewer
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: talking in like a Cro-Magnon and just, you know, caveman speak.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: Just confuse that. They're not singing to Twilight movie.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: It'd be like, they're just like us guys. They're just
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: like us. Edward, he shops at the grocery. He buys
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: his cars on Craigslist, which is true by the way.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: But I've just been watching, like, those... You know how, like,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: when a movie is released now, there'll be, like, a
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: series of, like, five clips on YouTube, like, just released
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: just to market it. And I'm always the person who, like,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: before I see a movie, I watch all those clips.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: It's bad. Like, I shouldn't. I mean, I should go
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: in cold. But I'm just... My anticipation is so great
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: because I love Cronenberg. You know, I get... I got
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: stoked for A Dangerous Method, which I was probably the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: one person who got excited for that movie.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 14: I did, too.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: And it was good. It really was.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 8: But.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: Like I saw a clip from Cosmopolis where he was
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: just talking about, he was having this conversation with this
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: guy in his limo about what if, you know, the U.S.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: currency was replaced with the rat, like with a rat,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: the animal. And they were just coming up with all
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: these like jokingly about like. It's like, what about dead
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: rats or pregnant rats? It's like, yes, the Euro was
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: converted into white rats. And they're just like, they're joking
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: about it. I'm like, this movie looks awesome. Just that
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: scene alone, it just looked weird.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: That's weird. I don't get it. I just want to
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: know what kind of clothes they're wearing and where they
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: got their hair done.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: Oh, sorry.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: I thought it.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 10: Was us, Mike.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: It amuses me, too, because you know so much of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: his Twilight fan base. They're just going to go into this.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: They're just going to walk into this movie blindly. not
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: knowing the weird LSD trip of a movie they're getting into,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: and they're just going to hate it.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Anybody that walks into a movie blind, it's their own fault.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: Especially a David Cronenberg movie blind. That's got to be
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: the worst experience. If you're not a David Cronenberg fan,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: and you don't know you're about to watch a David
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: Cronenberg movie, and you pay money to see it, the rage.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: I can't even begin to understand the anger you would feel.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: I don't know, because I'm a David Cronenberg fan, but
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: I can appreciate how angering, like, enraging that must be.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: It's the same people that just back, well, now nobody
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: does that.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: I guess you could flip through the red box, but
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: when they would just go to a movie, like a
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: video store, and pick stuff up based on the box,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: and like, I know that actor, and watch that. I mean,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: if you're going in that line, it's your own fault.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: Can you imagine, like, how that would have been in 1995? Like,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: the theater for Judge Dredd was packed, so you went
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: in the next theater to see Crash. Like, oh, movie
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: about car crashes. Oh, this is going to be pretty cool.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: And just, like, how that person must have just wanted
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: to kill someone. And, like, just you can imagine just
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: arguing with a box office guy, trying to get his
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: money back. I feel like Cronenberg has done that to
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: a lot of people. Except that one. But never me
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: because I've always been with him.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: That one out of 100 that was like, this is hot.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Do that again. Crash the car again.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: Crash the car, yeah.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Do that thing with your leg in a brace. Never mind.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that one weirdo they had to kick out. The
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: crash weirdo. He kept showing up to every screening.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Shut up, I like this movie. Anyway.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: I feel like I could do a whole episode on
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: just Cronenberg movies.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we could.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: Oh, man. For me, it always goes back to Cronenberg
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: for me. My love of movies, I'll just go on
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: to these Cronenberg kicks. He won't make a movie for
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: a while, and I'll move on to other... directors and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: then when he comes out with something i'll just re-watch
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: his shit and you know i'll buy into the hype
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: for the release i'll see in theaters and it's it's
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: it's everything's you know everything's right everything's right again with
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: the movie world um i'm just glad he's still out
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: there making his weird shit you know he could have
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: he could have been like a martin scorsese not that
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: martin scorsese movies are terrible you know anything but but
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: he could have like gone to the hollywood studio system
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: and done these big budget things and I'm glad he never.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: He's definitely changed in recent years.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: He's changed, but he's never compromised. But he's still his
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: own weird self to some extent. Oh, yeah. He's even weirder.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: I would argue that he's weirder than he's ever been.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: These clips I've seen of Kalamopoulos are fucking weird. I
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: don't know if you've seen these scenes. I haven't, but
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: just because it's a little... It's going to be a
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: fucking weird movie.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Like, he can hide it better now. Like, he sort
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: of sneaks it in on the audience.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Whereas before, it was big, you know, plastic stuff on
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: your face.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: You know, it was body armor. Well, he has a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: perfect system. He's able to do that because, like, actors
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: love him. Like, all the, you know, actors, you see
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: them interview, like, oh, I always wanted to be in
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: a David Cronenberg movie because he gets these amazing performances. Like, career...
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: making performances out of actors. So they'll, you know, these amazing, sorry.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 10: Keira Knightley.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: Oops.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Everyone, but these like, you know, she's hurty. She's hardly
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: getting any roles these days.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: It's just, you know, just out on the streets, you know,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: their handout, it's crazy, but like, you know, these big
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: name Hollywood's, you know, stars like Pattinson, you know, and they're,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: they decide to be in a Cronenberg movies, you know, and,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: his fan base has no fucking idea who david cronenberg
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: is they've never seen one of his movies and uh
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: yeah they get suckered into paying a movie ticket and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: that's how he gets to keep going it's almost a
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: scam but.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: A whole new breed of fans that don't understand.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: What he's doing it's not cynical it's it's very he
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: he makes good stuff he's very passionate about what he
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: does and he loves he loves making movies and i
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: love his movies.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 11: But uh yeah did we get to yours yet No.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 10: Would you like to?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: We probably should. Okay.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 10: I don't know. I've seen several films in theaters in
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: the last couple weeks. I guess the one I'll talk
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 10: about is Ruby Sparks. Did anybody see that one? That
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 10: was the one I enjoyed the most.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 10: Are you familiar with this film?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: I've already forgotten it. I've heard the title, and now
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: I'm forgetting which one it is.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 10: It's the Zoe Kazan movie. She wrote it and did
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 10: not direct it, but wrote it and stars in it
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 10: with her, I guess, real-life love, Paul Dano. It is fantastic. Like,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 10: I knew nothing going in. The premise is sort of
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 10: familiar because it's essentially the same as, oh, my gosh,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 10: I've already forgotten the name of the movie. What's the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 10: Will Ferrell movie? Everything Must Go? A writer and.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Stranger than fiction.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 10: Stranger than fiction, yes.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: I actually like that, yeah.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and I loved that film. That film I thought
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 10: was brilliant. It was one of those films where I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 10: walked out of the theater and thought, okay, I hope
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 10: that whoever wrote this is like a very elderly person
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 10: who has been writing screenplays for years and years and really...
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 10: knows what they're doing because this is genius this is
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 10: a perfect screenplay and i went home and imdb'd him
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 10: as like some 25 year old dude i was like
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 10: seriously like.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: That's just discouraging when you find out like you watch
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: a great movie like oh who wrote yeah like Like,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: who wrote this script? Oh, like, oh, and, you know,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: probably some Hollywood, yeah, like you said, veteran, it's like,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: it's someone my age, and you're like, God.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 10: Or younger.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Like, you know, people like, people like Lena Dunham, just like,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, I love her.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 10: Oh, that girl is so depressing.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: I love girls. It's like one of the best shows
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: on TV, but that's all the more reason for me
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: to just be depressed about like, I'm like, I want
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: to write a script. I'm like, Oh, but you know,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: it will never be as like truthful and amazing as,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 10: We cannot allow her to be the standard for 23
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 10: year olds though.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: Like none of us will.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Be in the morning. It's like, that's true.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: It's, it's definitely her own world that she writes about. Uh,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: but yeah.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 10: But yeah, but this film, so Zoey Kazan, I'd seen
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 10: her in a lot of films, and you recognize her,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 10: but you're like, I've seen her in indie stuff, but
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 10: you can't really remember what. And she's sort of a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 10: mousy-looking girl, and she's Ilya Kazan's granddaughter, which, number one,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 10: is badass in and of itself.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: I did not know that.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, she is.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: That is badass.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 10: And actually, after I saw that she wrote the movie
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 10: and saw Kazan, I was like, she's got to be related,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 10: because that kind of genius just.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: Oh, man. That's got to be cool. You make a movie.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: With your girlfriend, and she wrote the script. The whole
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: process is like, yeah, we're awesome. We're this cool Hollywood couple.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: We're making a movie. You're writing it. You're the granddaughter
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: of this awesome dude. I mean, it just sounds like
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: it was a fun process.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 10: And it's such a star turn for her. I mean,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 10: she did it the smartest way possible. First of all,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 10: she writes herself as sort of like the beautiful girl.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 10: And so, and she really convinces you of that. I mean,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 10: not that she's not pretty, but like, you know, I
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 10: never thought, I never saw her as being, she's not
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 10: conventionally beautiful.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: That's not how Hollywood would cast her.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 10: And so you watch this movie where she's the dream girl.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 10: And then halfway through, you're like, wait, she is kind
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 10: of pretty. Wait, she's actually really unusually, oh my God,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 10: she's beautiful. And by the end of it, like you're
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 10: in love with her too. So that was fun. freaking
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 10: smart of her. The other thing that's amazing, I mean,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 10: she definitely wrote it as an acting showpiece, I think,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 10: for both of them. I mean, not to be cynical
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 10: about it, but I mean, there's so many.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, you know, if it works, it works. Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 10: There are so many scenes where she gets to show
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 10: so much range and she totally pulls it off. I mean,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 10: she is phenomenal in this film as is Paul Dano,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 10: but Paul Dano, you know, kind of always is something. Um,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 10: but it's, it's really, it's interesting and it's smart and
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 10: it's hilarious and it's sweet and it's touching. And like,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 10: I was bowled over by it, how original it was
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 10: for a film that everybody sort of thought they'd already
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 10: seen the premise. I, I.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: Just a couple days ago, I was taking the bus
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: home from work, and they passed by Village 8 Theaters,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: and they came to a stop like, you know, I
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: can either just go straight home because I'm tired, or
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: I could see Ruby Sparks while it's still in theaters.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: And I really sat there and debated it, and now
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: you're telling me how awesome it is. I really regret
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: not getting off the bus and seeing the movie. Because
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: I think you saw it at Village 8, right?
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 10: Well, I live in Lexington, so I saw it at the.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: Village 8 Theater, yeah.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: I definitely have to see it, though. Because I've heard
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: nothing but great stuff as far as reviews.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: It's not what I read in Us Magazine.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 10: Oops!
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: Damn you, Us.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 10: Where are the vampires?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: What? Every movie, even Twilight, where are the vampires?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Expendables 2, where are the vampires? How come these old
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: guys aren't killing vampires? I'm not sure why we're slamming
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Us so hard this episode, but Because they suck. Until
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: they want to sponsor us. If they'd like to sponsor us,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: send the money right over us, magazine.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 10: Change our team.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: We'll pretend like you're awesome.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: Speaking of Paul Dano, by the way, is it Dano
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: or Dano?
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 10: Oh, I don't know.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: I hope it's Dano.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 10: I just say Dano because it sounds cooler.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: I would assume Dano because Dano sounds like it's Danish.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Based on Hawaii Five-0.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: It's Dano. Someone almost ruined one of my favorite silent movies,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: the passion of Jonah arc by saying that the actress
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: in it looked like Paul Dano. I'm like, Holy shit.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: You're right. Like, I'm like, she's beautiful. But at the
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: same time, I'm like, she looks like Paul Dano. Like,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: damn it. Like, why did you have to say that?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: Like every time I see that it's going to be
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: in my head, but it's weird. Like you don't think that,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: but until you see like two side by side, you're like,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: Oh my God, it's very jarring. But that just made
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: me think, um, Just because she's so beautiful, like that actress,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: I can't remember her name, she's so beautiful, but at
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: the same time, she looks like Paul Dano.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: It's kind of.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: It's a weird contradiction, but yeah. It's a very random
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: thing that just made me think of that.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Anything else?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: No other movie geeks.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I saw... I'm hesitant to even say this out loud,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 10: because it's like the most beloved film in theaters right now,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 10: and I found it a little manipulative.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: No, no, no. I want you to leave this out,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: because I might be able to join in on your disappointment.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 10: How do we feel about Beasts of the Southern Wild?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: Okay. I saw that on a date, and she was
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: a lot more in love with it than I was,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: and I didn't want to trash it. In front of her,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: because she was so... She loved it so much, and,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: you know, she was like, oh, I'm so glad you're
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: doing that, and I didn't want to be like, ooh,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: it was awful. Yeah, and just like, you know, go all,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: you know, just ooh, you know, movie critic asshole on her. But, no,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: I did have some issues with it. I thought it
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: was very good. It definitely is. It's better than most
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: of the movies I've seen this year, but it's not
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: like I kind of... The hype, it's one of those
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: things where the hype killed it, and it wasn't... as
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: magical or amazing or profound as the hype would have
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: you believe. It's just kind of... It's definitely an interesting concept.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: It's definitely like whatever the director was imagining in his head,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: he definitely saw it through with this movie. He definitely
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: got to have this complete weird fantasy sort of social
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: reality universe fully played out the way he wanted to,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: but it just didn't do anything for me. I didn't
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: relate to... Like I not relate, but like the, it,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know. People were hyping up with like Pan's
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: Labyrinth and stuff like that. Maybe that's why I will.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: It's not Pan's Labyrinth, but anyway, I'm rambling about it.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: What were you, what were you, what were your thoughts?
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 10: I just, I don't know. I, I just, I felt
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 10: just manipulated by like, it was too much for me.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 10: And maybe that was the problem. Maybe I just shut
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 10: down at some point.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 10: It was just so heavy handed.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: It hammers down the emotions and the intense like moments, uh, And.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 10: There's just wave after wave after wave of it. And
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 10: it's relentless. And I just felt like it was squeezing
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 10: tears out of my eyes.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: That I didn't want or that I didn't deserve. Did
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: it feel, like, claustrophobic to you? Like, watching, like, I
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: don't know if it was the camera movements, but something like,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: it was going for this kind of tree of life
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: kind of, you know, in there. Like, I don't know
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: how that handheld kind of capturing the beauty of every
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: moment kind of look. But something about, like, it felt claustrophobic. Like,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: you would think that kind of style would be freeing and, like,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: really immersive. But it had the opposite effect on me
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: in a way.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: It felt enclosed. Like, maybe it's because there were a
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: lot of close-ups and not always on, like, faces of actors,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: which is what, you know, usually close-ups are for. It
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: just showed, like, close-ups of, like, you know, some trees
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: or some, you know, a jar on a ground. And
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: it's just, like, going all over the place. I don't know.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: It just, it was frustrating to me. And it was, like,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: this weird tick that I couldn't. I couldn't pin down, like,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: why it was bothering me, but I was like, yeah,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: the way that movie was filmed, it just.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 10: Yeah, my boyfriend got really motion sick.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: It just.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 10: For me, it felt sort of insincerely folksy. Like, it just...
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 10: There was something inauthentic about it, and I can't even
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 10: put my finger on it.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: I feel weird, dude. Like, I go back on myself
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: so much, because I even put a Facebook post on, like,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: everyone should see Beasts of the Southern Wild, and here
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: I am, like, talking shit about it. Which is not
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: unheard of, if you've... Like, me and movies.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Like, going.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: The Tree of Life.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 7: Like, I... I.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: Joined in on the, you know, the, the backlash on
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: that movie when I saw theaters and now like, I
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: love it. Um, so I, I tend to, but yeah, my,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: I thought about it and I'm, I'm like you, I
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: feel like it was definitely manipulative with the emotions and
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: the folksiness was definitely kind of like, Oh, this is like,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: it was going for that folksy charm and it didn't,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: maybe that would have worked if it were trying to
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: be more grounded in like reality. but because it also
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: had to mix in this random, really random, like did like,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: you know, the, the warthogs, like I didn't, I honestly
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: don't know what that was about. Like what, what the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: meaning of that? Not, not even like the, I don't
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: even know what that was like a metaphor at like,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: they were just there like, here's some giant warthogs. What
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: do you think of this? In this nuts, this movie
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: is awesome.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: And I'm just like, what?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: I guess I don't, I don't know what to think.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe it's just like, you know, the, the, the,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: I was just suckered by the manipulative nature of the
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: movie when I first saw it. Or maybe it was
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: because I was on a date and I wanted to
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: be in good spirit the whole time. Because she loved it.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: Like I said, she loved it so much. And I
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, it was awesome.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: But it... I definitely had some issues with it.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 10: Fortunately, my boyfriend and I are both cynical, sad sack bastards.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 10: So we're both like, yeah.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's nice.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: I've been... You know, I've been kind of... I've been,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: it's kind of been a year of disappointment for movies
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: with me. I mean, as far as the big blockbusters,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: I was a little, like, I liked it very much,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: but I was disappointed with Dark Knight Rises. Also, what
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: was another kind of big movie that came out that just...
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: I don't watch movies. Thanks. Really?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Prometheus was actually the one that I thought... See,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: I'm in the Prometheus camp, man. Don't even.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: Champion that movie.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: We should do a whole episode. Just wait.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: No, dude, I'm telling you. Wait until the director's cut,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: like Blu-ray comes. It will be the fully realized sci-fi masterpiece.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: I feel like this is going to be... It's like this.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: Generations like it'll be like Dark City I think and
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: like this cult.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: I was pushing to do a whole episode on it
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: when it came out and we couldn't get anybody on
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: board to go see it at the same time so
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: it just.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: Kind of got pushed off I feel like Ridley Scott
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: it'll be interesting he wanted yeah Ridley Scott he's an
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: amazing filmmaker but at the same time he's like very
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: business minded and that's kind of his weakness like he
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: knew he had this amazing you know complete vision of
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: the movie but you know studios were like we want
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: this cut we don't understand this so he had to
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: have probably cut like a good half hour of content
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: god which i mean some people might argue that it's
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: a better movie.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: What another half hour of that never mind.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: Oh really oh man you hate this movie that's great
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: no hates a strong word i just had issues i
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: you know i had issues with it too but here's
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: the thing like i it's one of those movies that
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: the flaws like i i i love it despite its
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: flaws um i definitely think it's the best thing he's
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: done since bloodrunner Honestly, I really do. I didn't care
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: for Gladiator. I thought it was overrated.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: I like Gladiator, but a lot of people don't like Gladiator.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: It's kind of silly.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: Thelma and Louise, I never thought it was the amazing movie.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: That people say it is. It looks really good.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: Black Hawk Down. It's one of those movies.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: You see and forget about.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 10: I really liked that one.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Again, I have not revisited it. At the time, I
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: did not like that camera movement.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: It's not like a movie.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: And now everybody does that camera movement. It was innovative.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was borrowing the Steven Spielberg, Saving Private Ryan film.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: Because he was the first person to really do that
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: kind of style in a war movie. And then it
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: became like, that's the norm for war movies now.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 7: But.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: You know, Legend has some odd charms to it. It
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: has a nostalgic value for me because I grew up
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: on that movie. But even so, like... It's got issues, too.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: As far as just, like, atmosphere and, like, an original... Like,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: a good sci-fi story with just a... I don't know,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: a very... And a good script. I really thought the
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: script was really... People, you know, didn't like the way
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: Damien Lindelof kind of brought his lost aesthetic of, like,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 5: you have to fill in the gaps on your own.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: But I kind of liked that about it.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 7: Um.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: I thought Scott and Lindelof, like, they made a good pair. But, yeah,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: it was definitely my, yeah, it's probably my favorite movie
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: this year. That and, I don't know, Moonrise Kingdom, maybe.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 10: I think my favorite movies this year are surprises, like,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 10: that I just went in with no expectations and was
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 10: just thoroughly charmed by. Like, Jeff Who Lives at Home,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 10: that's easily.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: My favorite movie of the year.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 7: Oh, man.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: I need to get, yeah, the whole Duplass craze I
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: haven't even seen I haven't seen you know any of
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: his movies and he's he's had like two in the
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: past year but I've heard that movie's just you know
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: nothing but great things about it yeah I think.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 10: It's a perfect little movie really yeah I really do
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 10: I gotta.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: Check it out god there's so many like all the
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: great stuff I've just been missing like it's been these
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: you know kind of indie movies but yeah I guess
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: it's just the big studio ones that usually which you
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: know isn't unheard of this you know the Hollywood stuff
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: does tend to disappoint that's.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: Nothing new Alright, so we're rounding things out here and
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: I think we've made other people answer it, so we
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 6: should answer our own question.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Three movies. What have we taken in the compound with us?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 10: Oh, did that really go to me first?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: Wait, what was the question?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 6: The zombie apocalypse has happened and you're loading your stuff in.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: You don't have much room. You can only take three movies.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: What movies are they?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: That's a sad question.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: Well, it can only be... I can only give a
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: sad depressing answer which is i would you say three
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: movies three movies i would okay it'd be three copies
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: of birdemic just so i could drive myself to suicide
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: within a day just to speed up the process so
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: i wouldn't have to draw out the inevitable loneliness then
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: realizing that you know all my loved ones are dead
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: and everything the future is hopeless Just so I can
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: watch Birdemic, because then right then I'll be like, oh
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: my God, I forgot how bad this movie is, and
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: just blow my brains out on the spot.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: That's a different way to take it. I didn't see
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: that one coming.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: Just because that movie's fucking terrible. I don't know if
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: you've seen it.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: I've seen it.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 5: And I hate it because it gets this cult, like
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: people think it's this great cult. Like, no, it's not
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: even like a fun, bad, it's a bad, awful piece
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: of shit that no one should, it doesn't deserve to
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: be seen by anyone. And I love a good, bad movie.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: This is just terrible. Birdemic. And it's getting a sequel,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: which pisses me off even more. I'm sorry. This just
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: turned me ranting about the movie Birdemic, which was totally unnecessary.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: But yes, that's my answer.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: Do you want to go?
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 10: Okay, I think I'm ready. So one would have to
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 10: be my favorite movie of all time, which is Treasure
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 10: of the Sierra Madre, because I think it's rich enough
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 10: that it can withstand multiple, multiple, multiple, multiple viewings. I
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 10: would need a comedy, I think, to keep me in
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 10: good spirits. But I would also need like, A cynical
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 10: comedy that's about how terrible people are so that I
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 10: will never look back nostalgically on the world I have lost.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 10: So I would go with Idiocracy on that one. And
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 10: then I would go with Cisco Pike just because I
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 10: would need a movie with both a young Chris Christopherson
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 10: and Harry Dean Stanton. So those are my three.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: Okay, let me give the real answer. Not jokingly, I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: would probably... If I had to pick three, I know
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: two definitely.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: The first two.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: would be one week. Michael Mann's the insider. Cause that's like,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: I've just, I've, the more I watch it, the more
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: I realize like, this is the one movie I could
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: watch over and over and over and never get tired of.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: Like I say that about a lot of movies, but
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: I think this is the only, that's really true about like,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: I really could watch it.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 16: Never.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: They'd never get so excited. I think it's one of
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: the greatest movies I've seen. And, uh, I gear the
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: wrath of God. Cause that's just one of my favorite
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: movies of all time. Uh, and I guess just like, uh,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: Probably a comedy, yeah, just throw in there just for laughs. Oh,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: what's a good funny movie? Maybe, like, there's something about
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: Mary because that has some of the greatest belly laughs
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: from any movie I've seen. Which, it's dumb and stupid, but, like,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: if I just want to laugh, that would be a
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: good choice, I guess.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: Well, mine's not quite as far-fetched because I was throwing
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: one of those in. Again, much like we said earlier,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: I think you're just going to be grabbing things, so
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: you're just going with randomness sometimes.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: So I'll save that for the end.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: I'll go with, if we're going to have the tribute
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: to the whole event here, I'll throw in Return of
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: the Living Dead because it's kind of awesome and, you know,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: the best finale of any movie that I can think
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: of living here.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: And it's a lot of fun.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: And you've got to have a zombie movie since the
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: whole apocalypse is upon you anyway.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: Just to, you know, be able to.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: live in the moment have a meta thing going on
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: look out the window i'll be like zombies so then
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: you know let's go already again i just mentioned this
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: recently uh at citizen kane i'm a dork i don't
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: care it's textbook fuck it i'm great movie and uh
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: then but the when i said before like randomness you're
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: just gonna grab something i immediately went to don't tell
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: mom the babysitter's dead so that's what i'm.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: Taking okay.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: Well, if I had to, okay, I know this is, if,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: so I don't feel.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: You're dead already.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: I'm dead already.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: The zombies ate you because you're thinking too much.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: I know. I snuck in, I snuck in three more movies.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: This is what you don't, it's a big plot twist.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: The M. Night Shyamalan.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: You're like the guy.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, he brought three more movies?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: You're like the guy who gets bitten and tries to
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: hide it.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: No, no, I don't trust this. Because you mentioned Citizen Kane,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: I was, because you mentioned Citizen Kane, Vertigo popped in
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: there and I'm like, okay, Vertical's, Vertical. Vertigo is one
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: of my all-time favorite movies.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Vertical Limit?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: Vertical Limit. It's also a masterpiece.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: You're taking that one.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: No way.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: No, you're taking it now. That's your pen.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: I'll throw in Vertigo just to like, as the third
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: serious movie, you know, if I don't have to do
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: a light comedy, that would be, I would switch out
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: that with the comedy. But yeah, Vertigo.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: All right, fine. Beat up.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: Now I'm done.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: So we answered our own question. I thought it would
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: be mean to not do it.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: So, you know, and it's just kind of random because
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: if I thought too much, my head would explode. I
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: tried to make us do top ten lists years ago,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: and I couldn't do it.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I'm randomly picking things.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: It's my only, and again, much like the event, you know,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: you just got to grab stuff.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: So that's the only way to do it, really.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: It has been an interesting evening. Any final wrap-ups on
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: the goings-on here?
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 10: Oh, that went to me again, didn't it?
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 7: Anybody.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 10: No, honestly, there was something strangely comforting about it. I
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 10: don't like crowds. I don't like people bumping into each
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 10: other and getting in the way and being slow and
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 10: not knowing where they're going. But when they're all dressed
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 10: as zombies, you're like, no, it's okay because they're zombies
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 10: and that's what they do.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: That's true. So, yeah.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: It's an impressive event that every year I'm still amazed. Like,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: I keep thinking, you know, those first couple of years, okay,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: it was cool and it found its following.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: I keep thinking.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: Eventually people will be like, Ah, whatever. And they'll move
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 6: on to something else. But I don't know if it's
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 6: just this town or if it's just, I mean, again,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: they've put a hell of a lot of work into
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: putting this together every year. So, I mean, they do
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: a good job of running it, but I don't know.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: It's amazing that it still finds its way. this amount
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 6: of people every year.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: We're eight years in now, and it's still a ton
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: of people.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 6: So, it's amazing that that many people, and I guess
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: just speaks to the society in general at this point
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: and their weird zombie obsession.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: It's become pretty damn mainstream now.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: So, I guess it's bringing in probably way more normal
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: people than it did that, you know, second year that
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: I was standing there when it was just a bunch
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: of dorky kids in a parking lot.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: That was fun too. So, you know, I'll take both.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: It's good across the board.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: You never go wrong with zombies.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: Always good times with zombies.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: So we have had fun at the Louisville zombie attack.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 6: So thank you once again to the, uh, the creators
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 6: for talking to us today and for letting us come
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: later around in the middle of their, uh, attack upon
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: people and, So far, the police department has not shot
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: anybody that we've seen. So they kept that under wraps
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: at least or at bay or whatever happened. We haven't
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: seen anything. So we'll see tomorrow on the news what
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: really happened. But so far, it's been a pleasant evening
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: of zombies.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 9: They'll dance on the grave. They're all so sane and plain.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 9: They don't know the answer in vain. It's coming down
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 9: to make a big show. This party is on fire.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 9: Dave and Rach, see you tonight.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 14: Thank you.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 8: Bye.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: I'm up here fighting fake blood being thrown all over
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: the place.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: And I told one of them, I said, you.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: Hit me with that blood, I'm going to put you
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 7: in the hospital.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 11: The police officer said, what.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 8: Did you say?
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 15: I said, you heard me.
• 1:32:35
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• 1:32:47
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