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Championship Edition - R.E.M. Pt 3 · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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  Yeah, you know, we had all of two minutes in between, you
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  know, these, but I don't know, we had a week or so that I could
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  have thought of anything to say here at the bit the top and I
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  didn't. So whatever, man.
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  It's the R.E.M. Championship edition we're
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  looking at #3 We one actually looks like it went really
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  swimmingly in comparison to #2 John.
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  Like, it, it, it, it felt like, you know, on the, the, the
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  gameplay, you know, like the laying it out, it felt like
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  everybody was, you know, pretty agreeable.
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  You got like 3-3 unanimously. And then when we started getting
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  out down to the nitty gritty, like the fours and the threes,
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  it started to kind of fall apart.
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  And it it got, I don't want to say bloody, but it, it did like
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  it got kind of brutal there, yeah.
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  No, Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean it.
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  It started off very ominously with, with pretty persuasion
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  only getting 2. And then I tried with you hard
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  to bring it back at the end and it just didn't happen.
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  And that that's going to haunt me for a for a very long time.
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  But yeah, I mean, like that's the way this goes.
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  I mean, like I said at the beginning of the last one, you
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  know, with round one you kind of give kind of make it a little
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  easier, maybe give that one like get people just an ease into it.
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  And then with with Round 2, all bets are off.
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  The gloves come off a little bit.
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  And yeah, like, definitely like the round one list.
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  I don't think there were any big surprises.
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  But like the round two list, there are some songs on there
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  that I did not think we're going to make it.
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  So when we're looking at at Part 3 here, like what are we looking
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  at as far as play wise? And you know, how did you, how
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  did you put your 20 together for this?
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  Like was this one difficult? Everybody seems to say it, it,
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  it, it was pretty bloody for themselves.
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  Yes, like I like I've been mentioning, like, you know, I
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  kind of broke their catalog up into the four groups and we have
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  Out of Time Life's Rich Pageant reveal and Dead Letter office.
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  And this one may be as I'm looking at it on paper, it like
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  the dead letter office stuff like there's a lot of covers,
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  there's a lot of throwaway stuff.
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  So I don't know how you guys are going to take in that stuff.
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  I don't know what people like people have different
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  relationships to that stuff. Like there's some of it there.
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  You know, people love the obscure B side, but some people
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  are like, oh, you know, that stuff doesn't hold up to the
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  album stuff. There's a reason it wasn't on
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  the album. So I'm interested to see how
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  that plays out, like where Dead letter office fits into this.
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  So but then you're looking at, I mean, out of Time and Life's
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  Rich Pageant are both just huge, like huge albums in their
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  catalog full of great songs and deep cuts that are great.
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  And like, and then you've got reveal, which is, you know, the
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  one of the later era records that I think is again, kind of
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  similar to when we're going to talk about in part 4.
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  This is kind of a little bit underrated and maybe like, you
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  know, maybe it it deserved a little better than it got, you
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  know, and that there's some there's some good songs on
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  there. So this one's going to be a it
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  could go away. It could be really front loaded
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  on those those big 2 records, or we could have another mix.
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  We'll see. So where's where does this
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  selection of records fall for you, Peter?
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  Putting out of time and life's first pageant against each other
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  was just unfair. I I was just like motherfucker,
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  like while doing this, while doing this list, because I love
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  those two albums and out of time was Kent was my entry point into
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  R.E.M. I think reveal it's it's not one
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  of their best records by any means, but it's got some really
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  good songs on it and I think that it it deserves A
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  reevaluation. But As for dead letter office,
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  it's it's kind of like hit or miss for me.
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  So let me ask you this, like when you're putting your list
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  together for this, you in between finishing #2 and Part 3,
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  we were kind of confirming that yeah, let's do Part 3.
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  And I asked, you said yes. And I said that sounded
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  hesitant. And you said because you weren't
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  sure how it's going to go. Does that mean does that mean
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  you have crazy picks or just because it it the picks were
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  brutal for you? How did how did you go about
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  picking for this round? I picked what I simply thought
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  were the best songs from these albums and the songs that I like
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  the most. I was hesitant about it because
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  some of these songs are really, really close to my heart and I,
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  I'm just going to be devastated if some of them just either get
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  thrown in the trash or don't make it.
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  It's, it's, it's another Radiohead let down situation
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  where it's just like, oh, we're letting that go.
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  What? Well, it it takes a tough person
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  to come in and do Championship edition.
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  I found Gavin talk to me about where you are here in because
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  again, you're more early R.E.M. Is this like where a turning
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  point for you or is this all, you know, still kind of in the
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  wheelhouse? Oh yeah, I mean, I I played, I
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  played Dead Letter off as like daily in 1987.
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  I'm definitely one of the people John was talking about that
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  likes all the weird obscure B sides.
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  So that was like a big record in this round for me, dude.
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  Life's rich. Pageant for me is like one of
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  the greatest albums of the American new wave.
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  It's just such fucking insanely good.
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  What a piece of art, like a piece of work as just a body.
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  I like Out of Time. I think I yeah, I like Out of
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  Time and definitely have some representation there.
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  I wasn't as big a fan of Reveal as a lot of people.
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  I think a lot. You know, it's funny as those
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  later period R.E.M. albums came out, like everybody really
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  wanted them to be great. It was like it was always like a
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  return to form or like this is them coming back and like I just
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  I just reveal was kind of a let down for me.
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  So I think that's I saw the life first pageant tour in in in
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  1986. That was like an incredible
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  show. And so, yeah, that's where I'm
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  at. And when when you're going to
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  pick, I mean, you, you kind of already eluded dead letter
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  office is big for you. Sounds like reveal might not be
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  that big for you. Are you kind of, you know,
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  picking a little everything here or is it just kind of, you know,
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  front loaded? It's front loaded but I got
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  stuff off all four. There you go, Chris.
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  Where? Where does this R.E.M.
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  Fall for you. Yeah, this was, I mean this
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  these three of these records is like the R.E.M. for me.
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  I had never heard what was it reveal never heard that record
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  at all. It was fine.
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  I'll leave it to that, but out of time is my that's like my
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  number one R.E.M. record. I played the shit out of that
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  record for a long time. Life's risk pageant and the B
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  sides too. I loved both of those records so
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  much like all three of those are are big on my list.
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  So making cuts was very, very hard for me on this this round.
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  There were just so many of them that I love and then but I got
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  through it. Definitely one record obviously
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  is going to be heavier than the others, but yeah, this, this was
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  a tough one. You mentioned in the last round
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  that like you know, you went out of your way for representation.
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  You just, you kind of threw that to the wind, Disco.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  With, with, with, with one record in particular.
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  Yeah, sometimes it's just that simple.
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  That's that's the way, yeah, that's the way it fell.
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  Brian, when you're looking at, at at these R.E.M.
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  Records. Are we getting into tougher
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  territory here for you? Not really.
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  Well, kind of because I mean, out of these four albums, two of
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  them are like, like in my like top five like favorite R.E.M.
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  Albums reveal I was not done when it came out and back to it
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  dead letter office. I never that was.
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  I don't know if I don't know why, but I never heard.
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  Before. And it, it you know, you know,
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  going back to it with all the, you know, at 2025 was, was not
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  good. It's not good.
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  Yeah. It it, it really hurt sitting
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  here listening to the to the, to the guys who were in the 80s wax
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  poetic about dead letter Office, which is it did not, it did not
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  hit me at all. Life's Rich Pageant is 1 at the
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  time may not be one of my favorite albums but but all the
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  songs on it that I like are like some of my favorite songs and
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  and and and. This list includes one of my top
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  three songs of all time, not just am song.
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  Like. When I when I name my three
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  favorite songs, Dream on, A Lighter Shade of Pale, and This
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  song So let's hope. I hope they picked it.
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  It's. A lot of pleasure, yeah.
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  Guess we're. Going to find.
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  Yeah, All right. Well, I mean no better time than
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  now, John. Let's let's jump on in.
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  Where do you want to start? All right, yeah, let's, I mean,
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  I, I was, I told myself I was going to like use this pic to
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  like, let me like do a like check the barometer level.
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  Let let's see where everybody's at on this and see how this is
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  going to go. And it worked out pretty well in
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  round one. It did not work out very well in
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  Round 2. So I'm going to pick what what I
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  think is maybe the best R.E.M. song in my opinion and we'll see
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  how you guys feel about it. No pressure.
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  How about country feedback? All right, Peter.
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  Oh thank God you have it. That's one of my favorite songs,
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  period. Nice.
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  Yeah, Gavin. I'll be that guy.
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  No, I don't have it all. Right, Chris?
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  Yeah, hell yeah, I got that. Nice.
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  And Brian, I do. Oh.
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  Not bad, not bad. Thank you.
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  Thank you. I mean, when you're we.
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  Might be OK you guys, we might be OK.
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  When you're looking at parameters, you can't do better
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  than you can't do much better than A4 on a Championship
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  edition. All right, Peter.
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  This is one of their more well known songs and I really love
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  it. It doesn't really get old to me.
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  Fall on me all. Right, Kevin?
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  Yeah, totally there we. Go and Chris Fall.
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  On me? No, no I don't.
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  Really. Yeah, I'm surprised actually.
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  We are too. Brian.
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  Yeah, yeah, of course I have. Nobody's more surprised than
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  Chris. I got it.
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  And Josh, yes, yeah, yeah, there's the two or four rather.
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  Sorry. All right.
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  Like MM Mills singing that bridge is beautiful.
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  Like I was looking for it on my list.
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  Like of course I've got that on my list, but I don't I couldn't
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  tell you why. Interesting.
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  All right, Gavin. Well I'll start with one of my
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  favorite R.E.M. songs of the 80s that no one else is going to
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  have. It should have made Chronic
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  Town. They fucked up on that one.
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  Do you guys have ages of you all?
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  Right, Chris? Fuck yeah.
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  Hey, yeah, I think I know the answer to this, Brian.
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  No. John.
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  Yeah, yeah. All right.
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  And Peter? Sorry.
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  Don't. Hey, not bad 33.
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  All right, Chris. All right, I'm just going to go
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  ahead and get the heartbreak out of my way.
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  It could be my favorite R.E.M. Song I think depending on my
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  mood and definitely my favorite on Out of Time radio.
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  Song all. Right, Brian.
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  Track 1. Radio Song.
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  Yeah, yeah, I have radio song. John.
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  Yeah. Peter.
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  I don't want to be that guy, but no, I don't have it.
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  Gavin. Yeah, I have radio song.
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  Nice, nice, nice because. I thought I was anyway but.
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  I. Love that song so fucking much.
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  Interesting. All right, Brian.
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  We missed John missed the chance to begin with.
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  Begin the Begin all. Right.
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  John. Real quick, how many did radio
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  song have? Was it 3 or 4444?
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  OK, yes, I apologize for not beginning with begin to begin,
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  but yes, I do have it. That makes you feel better.
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  So many, begins Peter. Yeah, I've got it.
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  Gavin. No.
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  And Chris? No, sorry.
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  Again, it's, I mean, cutting, cutting anything off of that
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  record was painful to me. It really was.
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  That's a pretty solid first round, fellas, especially for
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  John. John's already out five songs.
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  I know, right? All right.
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  Where you want to go now, John? All right, I'm tempted to do the
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  thing, but instead I'm going to I'm going to take a left turn
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  and break out the bone chains and toothpicks about Swan, Swan
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  H. Peter.
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  I don't haven't. Gavin.
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  No. Chris.
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  No. And Brian?
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  Yeah, yeah, I got it. OK, good.
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  Take that too, Peter. It's my turn again.
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  I'm going to try something from Reveal Imitation of life.
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  All right, Gavin. No.
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  Chris. No.
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  Brian. Yeah, I do.
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  Wow. And John?
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  Streak continues. I got it.
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  Hey, there we go. Another three.
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  That's a three. Yeah, yeah. 3.
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  All right. They're three young guns.
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  Yeah, also for the youngish. Also for the record, John has
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  all of them and Brian right behind.
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  Yeah, only missing one. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Gavin, where you want to go?
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  Right my my song from out of time when the jangle is back
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  baby, do you guys have belong? All right, Chris.
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  Of course. Brian.
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  I don't like hearing that, of course.
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  That a lot in that record. Yeah, I don't.
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  I don't have belong. All right, John.
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  The streak is over. And Peter?
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  I don't have it. All.
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  Right. I mean you get a 2.
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  Write it down. Not in the bin, Chris.
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  Well, let's go. It's going to be like a broken
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  record. Let's go out of time.
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  Anything with Kate Pearson I'm going to love and I'm not going
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  to do the obvious one. I'm going to go with the better
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  Honey song Me and honey all. Right, Brian.
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  Yeah, that is the better honey song.
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  But as as mentioned last episode.
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  Yeah, yeah, I have it. All right, John.
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  Streak is back. Yep.
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  All right. And Peter?
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  I think we have our first unanimous.
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  Let's find out, Gavin. Come on.
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  Yep. Hey.
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  There we go. Oh you know what I forgot to.
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  I am smart. I forgot to queue up #3 just a
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  moment there fellas while I queue up list 3/3.
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  That was unanimous. Everybody had that, yeah.
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  Yeah. Nice, nice.
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  All right. Which record was that again?
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  Me. And there it is, number 11.
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  Those last tracks, man. We'll get you.
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  All right, something about being prepared me and honey is in.
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  Not a bad first couple, goes Brian.
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  Go back to rich pageant flowers of Guatemala.
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  John. No.
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  Peter. Sorry, Gavin.
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  Yeah, lovely song. I love how he's harmonizing with
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  himself. And Chris?
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  I say like it's on my list, but it's not.
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  All right, again, we take that too.
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  That's all right, John. All right, we've been we've been
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  talking about Mike Mills on these on the first couple
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  episodes sparingly and it's about time he got some love
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  about near wild heaven all. Right, Peter?
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  Of course, of course. Those those dreaded 2 words,
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  Gavin, not a. Fan of near wild Heaven, I can't
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  deal with that song. Chris.
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  Of course. And Brian?
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  You guys, you guys with the of course is really hurting me.
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  I I don't have it and. All right, that's a three.
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  Not near enough. Not near enough.
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  All right, Peter. I'm going to dress the elephant
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  in the room and go with losing my religion there.
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  You go, Gavin. Yeah.
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  Chris. Yeah.
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  Brian. You all better because that's my
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  that's like my favorite song of all time, right?
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  And then John. Yeah.
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  I mean, it's maybe it it falls into that same category of like
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  you would think it would be maybe too obvious for this and
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  we wouldn't need it. But if you go back and listen to
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  it like, it's just an incredible piece of music.
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  It's too good, yeah. Yeah, I was going to say.
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  Like there's no chorus, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no guitar.
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  Yeah. I, there's, there's a show
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  called Song Exploder on Netflix. Were they each episode they
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  break down a song and they did Losing My Religion and they're
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  talking to Michael Stipe and they, they just isolate Mike
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  Mills and Bill Berry's backing vocals and Michael Stipe's just
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  listening to them. And like then he just kind of
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  mutters for himself. He goes, fuck, they're good.
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  And you can also watch the pop up video on YouTube which is
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  very good as well. I I'm very glad to see that not
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  only does it come up into the conversation, but it gets
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  through unanimously because it got alluded to like this very
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  easily could be one of those songs that kind of gets
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  disregarded just because it's been around forever and it never
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  really kind of went away like it.
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  You can probably you can hear it still just as much now.
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  But like this song for even for me, I know I'm not playing.
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  In my opinion, doesn't matter, and especially since it's
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  unanimous, this song never lost its luster for me ever.
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  And and Justin, we didn't even mention too, but like from the
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  original list, like last round, you had leave into the world and
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  Ebo the letter all didn't make it.
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  So that was three more that are out And you guys, you guys
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  didn't have losing my religion on the original list either.
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  I know. Oh wow.
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  Really. Yeah, yeah.
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  Wow, yeah. God, for shame.
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  Well, it's, it's a different ball.
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  Like I, I may not have had it. I don't know.
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  I, I can't remember. But like, the game was different
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  then. Like I, I, you know, I very much
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  avoided radio songs. Not all of them, obviously.
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  We, we talked about my love for monster, but like, yeah, like I
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  actively avoided some of the radio songs.
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  I'm sure I had losing my religion, but who knows?
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  You'd have to go back and listen, folks.
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  All right, two down. Not a bad start, Gavin.
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  Where you want to go? OK.
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  What's sure to be a unanimous you guys have the you guys have
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  the B side of Wendell G called burning down.
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  All right, Chris. Fuck yeah.
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  I love that, Brian. That's a.
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  Banger of a song. I love that song.
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  No. Yeah, I had a feeling, John.
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  No, but with an ask Chris that I will address later.
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  OK. And Peter?
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  No. OK, so it's got a 2 not.
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  You and I are the only ones that like that record parent.
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  You know, not dead. No, sorry ages, you got 3.
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  Yeah. All right, Chris.
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  Is that your asterisk, John? No.
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  No, all right, there's got to be something off of the Life Search
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  pageant that I picked that somebody else picked, because so
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  far I'm swinging and missing on those.
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  How about these days? All right, Brian.
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  Oh yeah, that's fine. John.
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  Yes. Peter.
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  Yep. And Gavin?
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  We are young despite the years. Yeah, nice.
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  That fucking that, that drum driving drums at the beginning
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  just gets me. I love it.
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  Amazing song. Great lyrics too.
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  Yeah, yeah. And just like that, three all
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  the way through already, which could be a blessing and a curse,
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  as we learned last, last go. All right, so that was Chris
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  Bryant. I don't know if I don't know if
• 24:35
  Gavin also listens to the all of the after the facts, but there's
• 24:40
  an after the fact where me and Peter kind of lauded Christian
• 24:46
  for not liking this song well. John.
• 24:54
  Yes. Peter.
• 24:57
  Of course. Gavin.
• 25:00
  Better than that, yeah. Well, I'll have to be the Peter
• 25:04
  on this episode, no? All right.
• 25:08
  And Chris? Yeah, I got.
• 25:11
  It hey, take the four. Y'all are going to be hard
• 25:14
  pressed to find one I didn't have on our.
• 25:18
  That would have been weird mentioning me and then I didn't
• 25:20
  have it on my I. Know right.
• 25:24
  All right, we're back around to you, John.
• 25:28
  All right, so I'll address the the asterisk, I guess.
• 25:31
  So I got to I got to 19 on my list and then I did not know
• 25:36
  what to do with my 20th songs. I didn't know what to do so I
• 25:44
  just went for it and picked Burning Hell.
• 25:48
  Oh. That's great.
• 25:52
  Peter. No, I don't have it.
• 25:55
  I know no one else is going to, but that's fine.
• 25:57
  I mean, you got to find out, right Gavin?
• 26:00
  No, but I wish I could just support you on that just
• 26:04
  because. Chris.
• 26:07
  Same. That's that's such a good song.
• 26:10
  I don't have it though. And prepare to to shock me here,
• 26:15
  Brian. No, no.
• 26:17
  I. Don't.
• 26:21
  All right, Peter. All right, how about no I?
• 26:36
  I'm probably fucking up the pronouncing pronunciation on
• 26:41
  this, but. Huya hoga.
• 26:42
  All right, Gavin. Yeah, totally.
• 26:49
  Chris. No.
• 26:52
  Brian. No, I don't have it.
• 26:56
  And John? Well, the three of us can put
• 26:58
  our heads together and start a new country because I do that.
• 27:01
  There you go. Great, great song.
• 27:05
  Is it Cuyahoga? CUI Cuyahoga.
• 27:08
  Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
• 27:10
  It's a town in Ohio. Let's see.
• 27:15
  Wow, John, you're like almost out.
• 27:18
  I think you've got what, like 5 left it looks like. 6/6.
• 27:22
  OK, one of these days to learn how to count, you can.
• 27:27
  Practice. Practice on the discord.
• 27:28
  Yeah, right. Yeah.
• 27:31
  Gavin. I took the pylon cover of Crazy
• 27:37
  because it's so great and weird and they do their own thing with
• 27:41
  it. I.
• 27:42
  Love this Chris. Yeah, no, you're right.
• 27:47
  But no. Brian.
• 27:51
  No. There were too many good songs
• 27:54
  to pick from. This list was so hard man.
• 27:57
  John. That was #21 like we, if you
• 28:03
  haven't done pylon episode, we need to do a pylon episode.
• 28:07
  Just a crazy underrated band. And it's funny because they've
• 28:11
  they've gotten back together in the last few years and they call
• 28:14
  themselves the Pylon Reenactment Society, which is an amazing
• 28:17
  name for a for a reunited band. But yeah, I love what they did
• 28:21
  with it. But just the fact that it was a
• 28:23
  cover, I just like, I'm glad that you mentioned it because
• 28:26
  like I Pylon, like I almost picked it just to give Pylon the
• 28:30
  their moment in the sun because they were like contemporaries of
• 28:33
  them and like, should have been huge.
• 28:36
  But yeah, and, and and, you know, ultimately it just didn't
• 28:39
  make the cut. And Peter?
• 28:42
  I didn't didn't beat burning hell.
• 28:47
  Can you save Gavin with I'm crazy Peter?
• 28:51
  I can't. Still not a lot in the bin here.
• 28:55
  That's good though. All right, Chris.
• 29:02
  Well, let's stick with covers since we're on that record.
• 29:07
  How about. There She goes again, Brian.
• 29:12
  Great cover of the Velvet Underground saw.
• 29:17
  No, I don't have. It I feel like I don't even have
• 29:19
  to ask, but I have to just for clerical.
• 29:21
  Reasons. John.
• 29:25
  No, I mean there's a there's a timeline where R.E.M.
• 29:27
  Is the greatest Velvet Underground cover band of all
• 29:29
  time, but didn't take it. Peter.
• 29:35
  I don't have it, I'm sorry. And Gavin I.
• 29:38
  Don't have it either. That's all right.
• 29:40
  There we go. Yeah.
• 29:43
  Was that A1? Yeah, it was a one, Sorry.
• 29:46
  Yeah, that's all right. Brian.
• 29:58
  Hello. Oh, there you are.
• 30:01
  Oh, here I am. OK, I'm up, right?
• 30:04
  Yep. OK, All right.
• 30:07
  So I I only learned this song not from listening to from
• 30:13
  listening to in time. So that's when I first heard all
• 30:18
  the way to re. Wait, why am I not seeing it?
• 30:31
  There it is. There it is.
• 30:32
  My bad. All the way to Reno, John.
• 30:36
  Yep. All right, Peter.
• 30:40
  I've got it. Gavin.
• 30:43
  No. And Chris?
• 30:46
  Yeah, I got that one. Wow, this one might be a little
• 30:53
  cleaner. I don't know.
• 30:54
  We'll see. Paper.
• 30:59
  Yeah, John. OK, I'll stick with Reveal.
• 31:05
  How about I'll take the rain? Peter.
• 31:12
  I don't haven't. Gavin.
• 31:16
  Oh. Chris.
• 31:18
  Nope. And Brian?
• 31:21
  No, sorry. All right.
• 31:24
  Well the first first non dead letter office to go in the bin.
• 31:32
  All right, Peter. I'm going to stay and reveal,
• 31:36
  but I think this one's going to be a whiff beach ball.
• 31:42
  Gavin. No.
• 31:44
  Chris. No, I don't.
• 31:49
  Brian. No, I don't.
• 31:52
  And John? No, I know I did the last track
• 31:56
  thing, but I I consider I'll take the rein a better last
• 31:59
  track than than beach ball, so no.
• 32:03
  All right, Yeah, I. Figured that one would go in the
• 32:05
  bin all. Right, Gavin?
• 32:10
  Oh man, so this song, like I was just listening to the demo of
• 32:13
  this song, it has like this driving, racing forward momentum
• 32:20
  that they lose. It's it's got like the that
• 32:23
  R.E.M. Soul engine, that is.
• 32:26
  Missing. From the later records, do you
• 32:30
  guys have hyena off pageant all? Right, Chris?
• 32:36
  Yes. Brian.
• 32:41
  I don't, but I could be swayed on that.
• 32:44
  All right. And John?
• 32:47
  No. And Peter?
• 32:50
  I've got it. Take that, take that.
• 32:53
  Three lives to see another day. All right, Chris.
• 33:02
  How about, I mean, I know it's kind of overplayed from the
• 33:07
  record. How about Superman?
• 33:11
  Like that song a lot, Brian, No pressure.
• 33:18
  I don't have it. John.
• 33:22
  No. Peter.
• 33:25
  No. And Gavin?
• 33:28
  I did take it, even though it's a cover.
• 33:29
  I didn't take it for a long time and then finally I was just
• 33:32
  like, this sounds fucking great. I took it.
• 33:34
  It's a great yeah, yeah, it's a great song.
• 33:35
  I love that song a lot there. You go.
• 33:37
  Let me take that too. And Brian?
• 33:43
  All right, I'm going to go to dead letter office because I've
• 33:45
  been I've been getting a lot of disrespect.
• 33:49
  Wind out, I'll wind out all. Right, John.
• 33:55
  Nope. Peter.
• 33:57
  No. Gavin.
• 33:59
  Nope. And Chris?
• 34:03
  I I don't want to make you hate on this album even more, but no,
• 34:07
  I didn't pick that one. Interesting.
• 34:14
  I did have a party soundtrack unfortunately when I was.
• 34:18
  Kidding. So you got to be really cutting
• 34:22
  it close here, John, I think, right.
• 34:25
  Something like. Yeah, I got 4.
• 34:27
  OK. All right.
• 34:28
  Where you want to go next? All right, how about half a
• 34:33
  world away? Peter.
• 34:37
  Big yes. Big yes.
• 34:40
  Gavin. No.
• 34:44
  Chris. Yeah, I got that.
• 34:47
  And Brian? Yeah, absolutely, Definitely.
• 34:52
  Take that, 4 Peter. Staying on that record, Song
• 35:04
  doesn't really have any words to it, but it's still pretty end
• 35:08
  game. Gavin.
• 35:11
  No. Chris.
• 35:14
  Sorry, that's one of the ones that I don't have from that
• 35:16
  record. Brian, no, I don't have it.
• 35:22
  And John? Nope, can't save you.
• 35:26
  Damn. Sorry.
• 35:27
  All right. Gavin, I feel fine.
• 35:36
  One of my all time favorite R.E.M. songs.
• 35:38
  Top 10 for me. I believe of Pageant.
• 35:42
  Chris. Hell yeah.
• 35:45
  Brian. I do.
• 35:49
  John. Yeah.
• 35:52
  And Peter? It's unanimous.
• 35:55
  Wow. Nice, There you go.
• 35:58
  Late unanimous. Yeah. 4.
• 36:04
  Yeah, that just makes the conversation harder.
• 36:07
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 36:09
  Because you got a a good number of fours here and threes hanging
• 36:13
  around. But I think I think barring
• 36:16
  somebody like really want to do put put some work in, these twos
• 36:19
  are probably done for all right. See, I believe was Gavin.
• 36:33
  Yeah, that was me all. Right.
• 36:34
  So, Chris? All right, I know it's going to
• 36:38
  get voted out. Even R.E.M. hates it.
• 36:41
  Shiny happy people. Because fucking Kate Pearson,
• 36:46
  man. Fucking Kate Pearson.
• 36:50
  Remember before when I said, when I said stand is the line.
• 36:55
  This is a harder line. I know, but I fucking I like the
• 37:00
  song and fucking Kate Pearson. You know John.
• 37:06
  Yeah, no. So I used to live down the
• 37:07
  street from Michael Stipe on Grady Ave. in Athens and his
• 37:11
  house is like, you know, it's a very nice house, but Athens is a
• 37:14
  very like humble communities. Got like a bunch of bamboo up in
• 37:18
  his front yard. So you can't just drive by and
• 37:20
  see in. But I used to threaten to put my
• 37:24
  windows down and Blair furry happy monsters very.
• 37:27
  Loud at night. So.
• 37:29
  So the answer is no, I do not have shiny.
• 37:31
  Happy people, Peter. Yeah.
• 37:35
  That, that that's my line right there.
• 37:37
  I, I I can't have that. I don't care.
• 37:45
  I got you, man. I got it.
• 37:46
  Of course I got shiny happy people.
• 37:48
  Yeah, I don't care. I.
• 37:51
  Mean it's so. Ridiculous.
• 37:52
  I like that song. Dude, it's great.
• 37:54
  When it came out I was like, this is R.E.M. fucking around,
• 37:59
  like being totally R.E.M. and like it just made sense to me.
• 38:04
  I I fucking think it's a great song.
• 38:06
  Yeah, I mean, if you have kids, it's it's their favorite song.
• 38:10
  It's, it's, it's like when the label told Sparks, you got to
• 38:12
  write something people can dance to.
• 38:13
  So they wrote a song called music that people can dance to.
• 38:18
  You know, like you guys got to write a happy song.
• 38:21
  Here you go. Yeah.
• 38:24
  Here's one thing I'll say I I do, I do love shiny, happy
• 38:27
  people, but I don't know that I would.
• 38:29
  I would be bringing it into one of these conversations.
• 38:32
  No, it's fine. I knew it was going to get shot
• 38:35
  down, but I again, I have Kate Pearson.
• 38:39
  It's just she's got a piece of my heart.
• 38:42
  Of course. All right, Brian.
• 38:49
  Let's see 12344 left. Let's come back to reveal the
• 39:01
  lifting. John.
• 39:05
  John No. Peter.
• 39:08
  I've I've got it. You haven't.
• 39:13
  I've got it too, it's like an underwater dream.
• 39:16
  That sounds really cool. And Chris?
• 39:19
  No 3. 3 three all right back around to you, John all.
• 39:28
  Right, I've got 2 left. We'll go with the the earlier
• 39:32
  one first. How about what if we gave it
• 39:34
  away? Peter.
• 39:39
  I've got 2 left and that was one of them.
• 39:42
  Gavin Yeah, That's a great song, Chris.
• 39:48
  No. One of the few, huh Hurts.
• 39:51
  One of the few, Brian. Yeah, I do have it.
• 39:56
  I. Do have it?
• 39:57
  BIG4 Yeah, What if we give it all?
• 40:03
  All right, So this will be your last one, Peter.
• 40:08
  Yep, last one I'm going to Texarkana.
• 40:16
  Kevin. No.
• 40:19
  Chris. No, not the one I didn't have
• 40:22
  off that record. Brian.
• 40:25
  I do. And John?
• 40:29
  No. Well, for the record, we cleared
• 40:33
  out out of time. Did we do half a while away?
• 40:37
  Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
• 40:40
  Got a four? I didn't put a number next to
• 40:42
  it. Yeah.
• 40:44
  All right. So.
• 40:44
  Yeah, 22 songs off that I didn't think. 1234 so 4 is the
• 40:49
  unanimous. Can't get any more.
• 40:51
  Peter is out and John only has one left.
• 40:53
  So Gavin. So I took just a touch off of
• 41:05
  Pageant with a broken piano again all.
• 41:09
  Right, Chris? Yeah, I got that.
• 41:12
  Brian. Yep.
• 41:15
  And John? That's not my last one, no.
• 41:20
  Got 3 All right, Chris. Oh, I got left.
• 41:26
  Two left. All right, we're going to throw
• 41:29
  another cover out there which I'm sure no one will have.
• 41:32
  Toys in the attic. Right.
• 41:37
  No, I did not take a cover of Toys in the Attic.
• 41:41
  Better better than Aerosmith version of it.
• 41:44
  No doubt all. Right.
• 41:48
  I can't imagine this is your last one, is it John?
• 41:51
  No, it is not. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:53
  No, I. Despise Aerosmith with a
• 41:54
  passion, yeah. And Gavin?
• 41:58
  No, but I like their cover of it.
• 42:00
  It's really good. I saw Aerosmith after they all
• 42:05
  got clean. It was one of the first concerts
• 42:07
  I ever went to and it was the worst fucking concert I've ever
• 42:11
  seen. Wow.
• 42:13
  Like guys, you need to go back on drugs.
• 42:16
  Oh. Jesus.
• 42:20
  All right, Brian. I think it's my last one.
• 42:25
  Let me check. Hold on.
• 42:27
  Yeah, last one. I lost it.
• 42:30
  Now she just wants to be. John.
• 42:36
  Nope. Peter's out Gavin and Chris.
• 42:43
  No. All right, so now Brian and
• 42:47
  Peter are out and then John's about to be.
• 42:49
  What's your last one, John? I've been high.
• 42:56
  All right, Gavin. No.
• 43:00
  Chris. No all.
• 43:03
  Right. See if Gavin's got my last one.
• 43:07
  All right, Yeah, let's find out. Gavin, what's next?
• 43:11
  Well, we had a chance to backdoor in Seven Chinese
• 43:14
  Brothers if we took Voice of Harold, which is such a great
• 43:17
  song. So I had that weird.
• 43:20
  That's a great story behind that song.
• 43:24
  Anybody have that? Is that your last pick?
• 43:27
  No, I have one more after that. Oh, you have one more?
• 43:29
  That's my last one. Yes.
• 43:33
  Oh wow. Fucking love that song.
• 43:35
  So like it's a 2. Me too.
• 43:36
  It's. So great.
• 43:38
  All right. And so since Chris is out,
• 43:40
  what's your last one for funsies, Gavin?
• 43:43
  Oh yeah, maybe the Best Song they ever wrote.
• 43:45
  Walter's theme. The theme to the Walter's
• 43:48
  Barbecue. That's another great song, yeah.
• 43:53
  All right. That's we're so hard on this,
• 43:56
  I'm telling you guys, except for that one record, and again, I
• 44:00
  liked it, it was fine. It was a good record, but the
• 44:04
  other three records had much better songs on.
• 44:06
  It, I mean, we managed to get 38 out of 50 picked.
• 44:13
  We cleared out Out of Time and Only Underneath the Bunker from
• 44:17
  Life's Rich Pageant is the only song that didn't get picked from
• 44:20
  that record. Wow.
• 44:22
  So 4 through unanimously, me and honey losing my religion these
• 44:27
  days, I believe. Let's look at these fours.
• 44:32
  Hey, we got country feedback fallen me radio song low all the
• 44:41
  way to Reno half a world away. And what if we give it away?
• 44:46
  So what's that 123? That's what, 7, 123-4567?
• 44:53
  Yeah. So I mean, the easy thing to be
• 44:56
  would be take all the fours and cut one of them.
• 44:59
  Something tells me that's not what you want to do, John.
• 45:02
  No, it's definitely, it's definitely not.
• 45:04
  We can't make it. We can't make it that easy.
• 45:07
  No out of the out of the threes. If we're doing that, I think
• 45:13
  Cayahoga begin, the begin and maybe even imitation of life
• 45:23
  deserve a serious shot. But I mean, I'm looking at the
• 45:28
  start at the top like country feedback and fall on me like we
• 45:31
  we got to have those I think. So, Gavin, you're out on country
• 45:36
  feedback. Was there a reason why?
• 45:40
  I'm just not that into that song.
• 45:42
  It's fine. I know everybody loves it.
• 45:46
  Is that like a situation where you'd rather come back to it or?
• 45:51
  I don't have the the, I don't have a strong.
• 45:54
  It's not a strong aversion to that song, but there's just a
• 45:58
  lot more better force. OK, so let's we'll we'll put the
• 46:03
  pause on on country feedback. Chris, you were out on fall on
• 46:08
  me, but you've mentioned that you could be swayed on
• 46:11
  everything on that record. So is this.
• 46:13
  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
• 46:16
  No, I I got nothing against. Yeah, like I said, anything on
• 46:19
  that record I'm fine with. So let's do that, you know, take
• 46:22
  whatever easy thing we can. All right, So Peter, looking at
• 46:26
  at these fours, you know, we're setting aside country feedback
• 46:29
  for now. Are there any of these other
• 46:31
  fours kind of jumping out at you?
• 46:38
  Definitely half the world away. And what if we give it away
• 46:47
  also? All right, so let's look at Half
• 46:52
  a World Away first, because Chris was the the odd one out on
• 46:55
  Life Search pageant and that's that's an easy sell.
• 46:59
  So yeah, let's find out. Let's find out.
• 47:02
  Gavin, you didn't have Half World away.
• 47:04
  Was there a reason behind that? Is it kind of same thing as
• 47:07
  country feedback? Yeah, same thing.
• 47:09
  OK, well then I mean, do we do we put another Life Search
• 47:17
  pageant song through like again, Chris is an easy sell here on
• 47:20
  this. Brian, what do you think?
• 47:28
  Oh. Yeah, it was for sorry, I was my
• 47:37
  my dog was doing something stupid.
• 47:38
  I was I mean no any anything, anything off life risk pack
• 47:45
  life's anything off of life, life's imagine I'm totally cool
• 47:52
  with like pushing through like. Again, like all those fours.
• 47:57
  Yeah, again, this was, you know, fours, John.
• 47:59
  Like, are we getting too heavy on that record?
• 48:03
  Again, the name of the game is just the best of the best,
• 48:05
  right? Yeah.
• 48:06
  Yeah, I think, I think like Cuyahoga and begin to begin, I
• 48:13
  would put way above the others. What if we give it away
• 48:19
  specifically? Yeah.
• 48:22
  All right, so, well, let's pause that then, because I, I feel
• 48:28
  like you kind of had that same argument, Gavin, is that some of
• 48:32
  these other fours you felt were stronger?
• 48:35
  Is there 1 you kind of want to visit here?
• 48:40
  Well, out of the fours that are left, I think radio song is a
• 48:46
  strong contender. I mean, obviously it has a dated
• 48:50
  quality to it. A lot of like younger people
• 48:54
  would definitely feel that it had some cringy aspects, I
• 48:57
  think. So I don't really.
• 48:58
  I I love it. I'm fine.
• 49:01
  What if we give it away? I would switch out with
• 49:03
  Kuyahoga. Yeah, so the but that's a three.
• 49:11
  Right. So out of the four, in my
• 49:14
  opinion the strongest fours are. Or what if we give it away in
• 49:17
  radio song? OK, well let me let me look at
• 49:22
  this real quick, because nobody's brought up all the way
• 49:24
  to Reno. That's what I was going to bring
• 49:27
  up. It's off that record.
• 49:29
  That's the only song that I picked from it.
• 49:31
  Right. And I mean, it's got and I.
• 49:34
  I think that gives it a good chance further down the road.
• 49:37
  Oh, OK. I think I think it should go
• 49:40
  through. I was going to ask, like, do we
• 49:42
  care about representation? Let's.
• 49:44
  It's the only thing really. It's the only thing that's got
• 49:47
  the stamp of approval of four people on it from Reveal.
• 49:50
  I mean. It's.
• 49:53
  It's not about reputation with that song or representation with
• 49:56
  that song. I just think it's a damn good
• 49:58
  song. OK.
• 50:01
  Yeah, I mean. It.
• 50:03
  It had. To be a really good song for me
• 50:05
  to pick it over some of these others from their earlier albums
• 50:08
  that I'm that I are near and dear to my heart.
• 50:11
  There you go. I mean, is that enough to sway
• 50:13
  you Gavin on putting all the way to Reno through?
• 50:17
  I'm a fan of album representation just in general
• 50:20
  because I always think about the kid that like that was the
• 50:24
  record that they entered the band on.
• 50:27
  And so I always like represent every record.
• 50:29
  So for that reason alone, I would be totally.
• 50:31
  I would be down with that. All right, so let's let's do
• 50:34
  that again. Take whatever easy ones we can
• 50:36
  get. That brings us up to six.
• 50:38
  All right, so, I mean, so far, country feedback, radio song.
• 50:47
  What if we gave it away? I've all got some love of these
• 50:51
  fours. Nobody said anything about low.
• 50:53
  Is it just? Is it happy to be here?
• 50:56
  No, I love low. I put it.
• 51:01
  I put low over radio song and. That's where we're going to butt
• 51:06
  heads though, because man, I love radio songs so much.
• 51:10
  Low is a great song. I love that one too.
• 51:12
  But like again, you guys, somebody mentioned it like radio
• 51:16
  song is just it's dated at this point.
• 51:18
  Like do we need it in 2025? Like is it, does it have a shot?
• 51:22
  Like, I don't know, I don't think so.
• 51:25
  Well, let's also like address threes here.
• 51:27
  Like John's posited, a bunch of threes should probably be in
• 51:33
  this conversation at this point. Are we laying down some of these
• 51:36
  fours for threes or or? I want to add to John's list
• 51:41
  that he forgot to add on his three list ages of you.
• 51:46
  Sure. So yeah, hey, I mean, it's it's
• 51:50
  an early song like it that that's an underrated, really
• 51:54
  good one. I mean, yeah, might as well just
• 51:57
  make it even harder. Yeah, I.
• 52:01
  Mean what? What are we doing here if we're
• 52:03
  not, like, agonizing over each each individual song?
• 52:06
  If we're not sweating, I mean, OK, so again, we have, we have 4
• 52:09
  spots, 12345 fours. Like how many of these threes
• 52:18
  actually belong in this four conversation, though, Because I,
• 52:22
  you know, I've posited, you know, a couple of these fours as
• 52:25
  like laying them down and, and people were up in arms.
• 52:28
  So to to me as the outsider, it sounds like the four, the fours
• 52:33
  are the ones that are going in. I agree.
• 52:37
  Cuyahoga absolutely deserves to be in.
• 52:41
  Was that a three? That was a three, yeah.
• 52:45
  So like, what do we, what do we get rid of to to make that
• 52:48
  happen? And I put that in over what if
• 52:52
  we gave it away? I'd put it in over half a world
• 52:54
  away. I'd put it in over radio song.
• 52:57
  Like, yeah, for sure. I'm fine with that.
• 53:02
  All right, so let's look at Cuyahoga was well, let me ask
• 53:08
  Brian first because again, that's a life's rich pageant
• 53:10
  song. So is there a reason for
• 53:14
  Cuyahoga not making your list or is there just not rum?
• 53:17
  No, I just had so many. I just had so many from, you
• 53:24
  know, from from that album inside.
• 53:29
  And you know, that's, you know, that's part of me playing the
• 53:35
  like the programmed game instead of the Champion Edition game.
• 53:39
  You know, I would probably in retrospect take, you know,
• 53:43
  Cuyahoga over one of the other songs from like just to have
• 53:49
  like, you know, 4 songs from movie.
• 53:52
  So I would yes, I would. I would get back.
• 53:56
  All right, so let's take Brian to put Cuyahoga officially back
• 54:04
  in the conversation. All right.
• 54:07
  Is that the only three though? Like again, you know, ages of
• 54:10
  you has been brought up, begin to begin has been brought up.
• 54:13
  I feel like there was another one that I'm forgetting.
• 54:16
  Imitation of life was brought up.
• 54:18
  Yeah. Yeah, I've been taking my life
• 54:20
  near wild heaven. So all of the. 3 Begin the
• 54:27
  begin. Yeah, that John put that one up.
• 54:33
  Well, OK, well then let's let's try to cut some of these fours
• 54:36
  then to to try to make room for for these.
• 54:41
  So we've got still a lot of country feedback.
• 54:43
  Radio song Low Half a World away.
• 54:47
  And what if we give give it away?
• 54:49
  Peter, you specifically said at at that point when I asked you,
• 54:54
  what if we give it away was when you wanted to really go to bat
• 54:57
  for. So is there one that you're
• 54:59
  looking at that's like, man, it got this far?
• 55:02
  But yeah, I don't. I just don't think it stands a
• 55:04
  chance. Out of the fours or three?
• 55:10
  Out of the fours to to get it out of the conversation.
• 55:18
  Fuck. I know.
• 55:20
  I mean, it's because we weren't getting anywhere.
• 55:22
  We were just adding more songs in so got to crank up the heat.
• 55:29
  Because I really love these fours.
• 55:36
  I mean, anyway you look at it, even if we took all the fours,
• 55:39
  one of them has to has to go because there's only four spots
• 55:46
  left. As much as I love it, I would
• 55:50
  say low all. Right, Let me put, let me put
• 55:56
  that same question to you, Gavin, if you're looking at at
• 55:59
  these fours, which one would you lay down to bring in, bring in a
• 56:04
  three. And again, we're, we're viewing
• 56:06
  Cuyahoga now as a four because Brian vouched for it.
• 56:10
  So. Right, I've cut any of the out
• 56:13
  of time fours country feedback low or half the world.
• 56:17
  Away. How dare.
• 56:19
  How have we, how have we not put country feedback in that song Is
• 56:22
  it might be their Best Song like that?
• 56:25
  How have we not put that in already like it needs to be in?
• 56:28
  I. Thought I thought country
• 56:31
  feedback was in. Because.
• 56:34
  Because it got put up first. But Gavin didn't put his foot
• 56:39
  down. But he also said that there was
• 56:41
  other ones that he'd rather go to 1st.
• 56:43
  So he said he wouldn't stand in the way.
• 56:47
  I don't want to put words in your mouth, Gavin, but.
• 56:50
  Yeah, that's right. Can we just, can we just put
• 56:55
  country feedback in and then we can talk about the rest of them
• 56:59
  like that song 1000% deserves to be on this list in my opinion.
• 57:05
  Well, I'll do just like I did Lasco.
• 57:07
  I mean, you have a chance to put your foot down here if you want,
• 57:11
  Gavin, or you can be diplomatic in and allow country feedback to
• 57:15
  pass. Well, let's do a little
• 57:17
  bargaining on that then. So you guys have 3 fours off of
• 57:24
  Out of Time. I mean, are you taking one of
• 57:28
  those 3? And is it country feedback?
• 57:33
  We have 6 Inns, we have 4 spots left.
• 57:37
  I guess that's not what you guys are saying.
• 57:41
  So. I'm I'm taking country feedback
• 57:44
  in low and I'm telling radio song like thank you for coming.
• 57:50
  Yeah, I'm OK with telling radio song thank you for coming.
• 57:54
  That would put that would make 4 songs out of time, two of which
• 57:58
  I don't care about. And then till then, OK, I don't
• 58:06
  know what the I don't know where that leaves us 2345678 OK, so
• 58:15
  you guys take you guys take 2. I'm speaking to you as a group.
• 58:19
  You guys take two of the out of time.
• 58:22
  I'm talking about out of time crew.
• 58:24
  You guys take two of the out of time songs, country feedback and
• 58:27
  low we scratch radio song. And now we still have room for
• 58:32
  you, right Justin? So those two would not come from
• 58:35
  out of time. It would come from pageant
• 58:41
  because we've got what if we give it away?
• 58:42
  We've got Koiahoga up there. I I think hyena is fucking
• 58:46
  great. The lifting is or not the
• 58:48
  lifting, just a touch is a three off pageant.
• 58:52
  That's fucking awesome. But we've got ages of you and.
• 58:57
  Again, the begin too. Yeah, begins like my least
• 59:01
  favorite off that record. It's weird because the track 1
• 59:06
  and I really like the idea of that song.
• 59:10
  Fuck that song. That record is crazy and it's a
• 59:13
  good song all. Right.
• 59:16
  So let me run this down. So out of the 123456 fours,
• 59:23
  there's four out of time songs still technically left.
• 59:26
  Country feedback, Radio song, low and half a world away.
• 59:30
  Peter has already said he'd be willing to lay, you know, he
• 59:33
  would be willing to let go of low.
• 59:35
  John has already said willing to let go of radio song.
• 59:39
  Is everybody in agreement that Country feedback and half a
• 59:42
  world away would go in at this point?
• 59:45
  Or is this a? I'm either or.
• 59:47
  I'm fine with no I'd I'd let Half the World Away go before
• 59:51
  radio song, but that's me. It's my favorite fucking song
• 59:54
  off that record. So.
• 59:57
  Yeah, Chris, I wouldn't I wouldn't lose low.
• 1:00:02
  I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not posting those those like 3
• 1:00:06
  fours off out of time. And we're looking for the best
• 1:00:10
  thing, you know, did. Radio song, low and country
• 1:00:16
  feedback. I mean, I'm fine with that.
• 1:00:19
  All right, so here's what I I just heard and anybody can, you
• 1:00:24
  know, feel free half a world away is out at this point.
• 1:00:29
  Nobody's really going to bat for it.
• 1:00:31
  Sounds to me like of the the ones from out of time, the other
• 1:00:37
  three suit suit better at this point.
• 1:00:41
  Does anybody dispute that? OK, all right, so let's lay down
• 1:00:47
  half or all the way done and done.
• 1:00:50
  All right, So Brian is positive, John 3 from out of time at this
• 1:00:55
  point, country feedback radio song and low would be the ones
• 1:01:00
  that he would take. You've already said that you
• 1:01:03
  would be out on radio song. Is it 3 from out of time or is
• 1:01:09
  it two from out of time and two from elsewhere?
• 1:01:13
  I think it's if if it were me and Nick I I would take country
• 1:01:19
  feedback Lo Cuyahoga and either either hyena or what if we gave
• 1:01:32
  it away probably. But country feedback is the the
• 1:01:35
  number one on that list by a far, far margin.
• 1:01:39
  OK. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:01:40
  I agree. OK, so I mean, again, all right,
• 1:01:47
  so again, I'm just trying to come around to like what I heard
• 1:01:50
  here. Let's let's tackle Cuyahoga.
• 1:01:52
  Cuyahoga here. Brian has already conceded to
• 1:01:55
  allow it into the to 4. Gavin's gone to bat for it.
• 1:02:00
  John's gone to bat for it. I know country feedback is
• 1:02:04
  number one. I'm trying to appease Gavin here
• 1:02:06
  to to make country feedback. OK, cool.
• 1:02:08
  I'm. Cool.
• 1:02:09
  I'm cool with putting country feedback in.
• 1:02:11
  It's not my jam, but like, it's a beloved song.
• 1:02:14
  There's a lot of passion on the panel for it.
• 1:02:16
  I'm fine with that. Right, but.
• 1:02:18
  I do. I do just want to say something
• 1:02:21
  about radio song because I can't.
• 1:02:24
  I understand the argument to leave it out and not even
• 1:02:27
  arguing to put it in. I just want to say that that
• 1:02:31
  song has like, it's so crazy. It's such a masterful song.
• 1:02:38
  How there's three different songs in there.
• 1:02:40
  Like it's a sad already song and then it's a fucking like
• 1:02:44
  nineties 80s. If you're not dancing when that
• 1:02:48
  fucking beat kicks in, when I got to the show, if you, oh,
• 1:02:53
  come on. But just the R.E.M.
• 1:02:56
  Ness of it too, like they're keeping they're trying to do
• 1:02:59
  something to leap forward, and they're also they're keeping
• 1:03:02
  their their identity at the same time.
• 1:03:06
  It's a really skillful like song that has a bunch of different
• 1:03:12
  parts identities to it. It's really cool, but but I do
• 1:03:16
  understand leaving it out. I didn't think anybody else
• 1:03:19
  would vote for it. I was like, I'm fucking voting
• 1:03:22
  for it because I was fucking great.
• 1:03:26
  OK? That's all I wanted to say.
• 1:03:27
  All. Right.
• 1:03:27
  So here's what we're going to do.
• 1:03:28
  We're going to we're going to take country feedback because it
• 1:03:31
  really sounds like nobody's budging on that.
• 1:03:33
  So let's do that. And again, I'm I'm coming to
• 1:03:37
  you, Chris here with Cuyahoga. I mean, spots are starting to
• 1:03:42
  get limited. Like, do you still take that
• 1:03:44
  same approach anything from life's rich pageant?
• 1:03:47
  I'm if we have to add 1 it's fine.
• 1:03:49
  I think it's better than begin to begin.
• 1:03:53
  I'd fight for hyena over Cuyahoga, but that's just me.
• 1:03:58
  There seems to be more love for Cuyahoga than Hyena All.
• 1:04:02
  Right, well, John posited Hyena. So what do you think, Brian?
• 1:04:07
  Like it if it was the choice between Cuyahoga and hyena.
• 1:04:13
  Man, well, so when I didn't have hyena, I said, you know, I don't
• 1:04:19
  have it. I would definitely bat for it
• 1:04:23
  and then I also said I would bat for coyote.
• 1:04:25
  Yeah, so. Now.
• 1:04:28
  So now you got me talking on both sides of my.
• 1:04:30
  Mouth. Because I would bat for both
• 1:04:35
  those songs. If I had to pick one, I guess it
• 1:04:42
  would be I'm going to do that thing where I'm like, oh, let me
• 1:04:48
  listen to a bit of each song and then.
• 1:04:53
  Yeah, that. Kind of.
• 1:04:54
  Works like as I reach for my earbuds I'm like no, this is a
• 1:04:57
  bad idea. Don't.
• 1:05:02
  I'm going to say Cuyahoga. I think all right, so does does
• 1:05:09
  anybody oppose Cuyahoga at this point?
• 1:05:13
  No. OK, so let's get that boom.
• 1:05:18
  All right. Now let's revisit these out of
• 1:05:20
  times because I feel like we're still technically not getting
• 1:05:24
  anywhere. We we we have two spots left
• 1:05:26
  here sounds like. Quick question, did did pop song
• 1:05:33
  89 get in? Do we?
• 1:05:36
  No. No.
• 1:05:39
  No, I'll just check because because because that's what
• 1:05:42
  that's what's making me think about.
• 1:05:45
  Because like, yeah, like we all really love like the really
• 1:05:50
  insightful R.E.M. songs, but like we're also known for so
• 1:05:57
  like, that's why I'm kind of like we didn't take pop song.
• 1:06:02
  So like like. You're talking about we'd like
• 1:06:06
  happy. People stand, Yeah.
• 1:06:09
  Like at least side, right? Like they're like.
• 1:06:11
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:06:13
  Like they're really, you know, like they really became later
• 1:06:16
  known, you know, haunting and introspective song, but, you
• 1:06:22
  know, they were also very well known.
• 1:06:24
  But we're not playing the program.
• 1:06:26
  See, that's what I'm doing, right?
• 1:06:27
  Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm messed up.
• 1:06:29
  It's. It's a best I.
• 1:06:32
  Like what you said, I think that that's we're missing that
• 1:06:35
  element of them and it's an important element, yeah.
• 1:06:39
  Yeah. So the question to me is, are we
• 1:06:41
  taking one of these out of times?
• 1:06:45
  And then there's what if we give it away as is a four that's
• 1:06:49
  still alive? Are we, are we doing that?
• 1:06:52
  Are there, I, I mean, I, I hate to do this, but it, we're not
• 1:06:56
  getting anywhere. And to me, it feels like if we
• 1:06:58
  keep revisiting these threes, we're just, we're never going to
• 1:07:01
  finish. So to, to me, to me from where
• 1:07:04
  I'm at, it sounds like it's it's two of these fours.
• 1:07:10
  Yeah. All right, so here's what we
• 1:07:14
  got. Radio song low half world away.
• 1:07:17
  I'm sorry, that one's out. So we have 123 fours alive Radio
• 1:07:23
  song low and what if we give it away?
• 1:07:30
  If we only are we doing UN out of time?
• 1:07:35
  And then what if we give it away, I guess, I guess that's
• 1:07:40
  the question, right, John? Is it 2 out of times?
• 1:07:42
  Or no, it's I mean, I'm going to say again, like if it's between
• 1:07:49
  those three, it's it's low first, what if we gave it away
• 1:07:53
  2nd and then radio song is a distant, distant third all.
• 1:07:56
  Right, Peter, if you rank those 3.
• 1:08:03
  Same thing, low. What if we give it away and then
• 1:08:10
  Asterisk, Asterisk, Asterisk radio song?
• 1:08:13
  Ellipses. Yeah, ellipses, Gavin, if you
• 1:08:18
  rank those 3. Well, my ranking would be
• 1:08:23
  different, but I'm kind of seeing the writing on the wall.
• 1:08:25
  I'm fine with, I'm fine with Lowe.
• 1:08:28
  And what if we give it away? OK, Chris.
• 1:08:32
  No, I no, God damn it, no. You guys like twisting the
• 1:08:36
  fucking knife? KRS-one.
• 1:08:39
  I mean, come on, I can't give up.
• 1:08:44
  I can't. I can't.
• 1:08:45
  I might not come back for part 4 if I lose radio.
• 1:08:50
  Song. Just ring Just.
• 1:08:51
  Ring don't pull a Guns and Roses on us.
• 1:08:57
  Just. Ring them.
• 1:09:00
  All right, radio song. What were the other two?
• 1:09:03
  Low And what if we give it away? Fuck God damn it low before.
• 1:09:13
  What if we the other one? OK, Brian.
• 1:09:18
  Low What If We Give It Away? And Radio song.
• 1:09:23
  You all suck. All right, so, well, look, let's
• 1:09:26
  make #1 let's make low official because that that's sounds like
• 1:09:33
  it's in because it was either one or two on almost everybody's
• 1:09:39
  list. Gavin didn't give a list and
• 1:09:43
  said he would concede to what if we give it away?
• 1:09:47
  You don't have to because technically I, well, no, I'm
• 1:09:52
  sorry. Both John, Peter, John Peter and
• 1:09:55
  Brian had radio song is distant last Yeah.
• 1:09:59
  Yeah. So I mean, even if you put it in
• 1:10:03
  first, I think it's but. Yeah.
• 1:10:07
  You didn't have all the ellipses.
• 1:10:08
  Yeah, I mean, I guess why belabor it?
• 1:10:13
  It's going to hurt Chris, and I'm sorry to do that, but at
• 1:10:17
  some point we got to finish this.
• 1:10:19
  So what if we give it away? We'll be our 10th, all right.
• 1:10:25
  What if we give away radio song? All right, let me run this down.
• 1:10:31
  Me and honey, losing my religion these days, I believe fall on me
• 1:10:35
  all the way to Reno. You're going to be a star.
• 1:10:37
  Country feedback Cuyahoga low. What if we give it away, John?
• 1:10:42
  Another it? It really turned out pretty
• 1:10:46
  bloody there. Like it's.
• 1:10:47
  Yeah, yeah, dude. Can we talk that that fucking
• 1:10:51
  Reno song and bring back radio song?
• 1:10:56
  Yeah, I mean, I've and like Chris, I know you, you know,
• 1:11:00
  you've been there. You've you're, you're a
• 1:11:02
  deprogram veteran. You, you've been there.
• 1:11:04
  You know how it feels. But like Championship Edition,
• 1:11:06
  like it hurts a little more 'cause like you're, you're in
• 1:11:09
  this one band, you're listening to everything.
• 1:11:11
  Like I feel for you. Like I've been there.
• 1:11:13
  Like I remember like doing Radiohead and like getting the
• 1:11:16
  let down and being like, like no surprises and let down being
• 1:11:19
  like, oh, come on. That's crazy.
• 1:11:22
  But no, seriously, out of those two songs, the Reno song and
• 1:11:26
  radio song, which one is better? All the way to Reno.
• 1:11:32
  Yeah. Yeah, you asked the wrong one.
• 1:11:35
  And I and and like I, I know, but like the good news is we
• 1:11:40
  have we have saved the most brutal one for last.
• 1:11:46
  I disagree. Well, we hurt.
• 1:11:50
  We hurt Chris the most on on Part 3.
• 1:11:52
  John, what's coming up in Part 4?
• 1:11:56
  Well, part 4 on these, I like to to make the punishment even
• 1:12:00
  worse, because like I had, you know, I like it's like talked
• 1:12:05
  about dividing up the the albums and eras.
• 1:12:08
  So we have fables of the reconstruction automatic for the
• 1:12:11
  people, which is the the big one, the behemoth in the room,
• 1:12:15
  the elephant in the room up, which is another underrated one.
• 1:12:19
  And then accelerate, which a lot of people think is is very,
• 1:12:22
  very, very good late era record. But then looking at the, the
• 1:12:28
  stuff is like, you know, where do I put chronic town?
• 1:12:31
  And like, maybe you could have made an argument that chronic
• 1:12:35
  town would have fit better on this list, would have made it
• 1:12:38
  Lim or even. But no, I just put chronic town
• 1:12:40
  in #4 to make it even worse. So that that's we're going to,
• 1:12:43
  we're going to have to deal with that next time.
• 1:12:45
  So I mean, is it hot in here or am I sweat?
• 1:12:48
  I'm genuine. I didn't even play and I'm
• 1:12:50
  sweating in my house here. So gents, as always, great time
• 1:12:56
  and everybody, we will see you all.
• 1:12:58
  You know, for you guys, it'll be next week, but who knows when it
• 1:13:02
  will be for us. We'll see.
• 1:13:04
  It's Championship edition.