Crypto Q&A with Polygon + Aptos (feat. Katana, Shelby & More): Metrics That Matter & How to Start Building | Ep 039 🍻🌗

Rise Up Media · Jul 3, 2025 · 1h 47m

Goodnow, revolutionaries—

Tonight was a true multi-chain moment on Rise Up After Dark, with two sharp builders from some of crypto’s most prominent ecosystems:

🔹 Greg Nazario – co-founder and Head of DevRel at Aptos

🔶 Nill – growth & BD at Polygon

We gave each guest the floor to pitch the other on what their team is building—then encouraged their questions, suggestions, good jokes, words of wisdom, & a little friendly TPS (transactions per second) smack talk.

Also in this episode:

– A helpful breakdown of TVL (total value locked) vs. productive TVL and how to tell the difference

– Answers to…