Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Gordie Chiesa on the NBA offseason, Best fit for LeBron, LeBron holding up the NBA schedule release, OKC trading Lu Dort + more
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Peace out.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
- 0:06Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
- 0:09Speaker 2: NBA than any of us.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Will ever know. Let's not get crazy.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk. Stay for his list of
- 0:15Speaker 2: the day A list today. Here's o Ce with Basketball Soon.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell's show.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Shat O'Connell Show. Welcome in Gordiona
- 0:27Speaker 1: Chia's resident.
- 0:28Speaker 3: NBA guru, Hi Gordon showing how's it going?
- 0:32Speaker 1: That's going all right?
- 0:34Speaker 4: I want to start with something we just hit on
- 0:36Speaker 4: in James's update. The commissioner of the NBA has expressed
- 0:41Speaker 4: some interest in hurrying Lebron James along because his lack
- 0:46Speaker 4: of a decision so far makes them feel like, you know,
- 0:49Speaker 4: it's hard to schedule, which I think we could push
- 0:52Speaker 4: back on pretty significantly if we wanted to. But is
- 0:56Speaker 4: Lebron's destination that important that the NBA doesn't already kind
- 1:01Speaker 4: of know where the star power is in their league.
- 1:07Speaker 3: The answer is no, that they're going to wait to Lebron,
- 1:09Speaker 3: and the reason why it's usually is going to go
- 1:12Speaker 3: to probably a team that might go deep into playoffs,
- 1:16Speaker 3: all right, So it could be the Cavaliers, possibly could
- 1:20Speaker 3: be the seventy six ers, could be the Mammy Heat,
- 1:25Speaker 3: which then would add to them going deeper into playoffs.
- 1:28Speaker 3: And an outside situation could be the Golden State Warriors
- 1:32Speaker 3: for all those older guys, one last run because because
- 1:36Speaker 3: we're all basically friends via the Olympics and that we
- 1:39Speaker 3: think we could surprise people. So it's held up. And
- 1:43Speaker 3: also add to that showing the Christmas package you know
- 1:46Speaker 3: where Christmas Day. Basically it's the opening part of the
- 1:50Speaker 3: NBA season where they showcase seven games and they're waiting
- 1:55Speaker 3: for Lebron to see where he goes where they move
- 1:59Speaker 3: with those games. So it's unheard of that only one
- 2:02Speaker 3: player holds it up, but I can see why they're
- 2:04Speaker 3: doing it.
- 2:06Speaker 4: So Lebron has expressed the opinion that he's not going
- 2:10Speaker 4: to be rushed by anybody. He's going to take his
- 2:11Speaker 4: sweet time, and I suppose he has earned that right here.
- 2:16Speaker 4: My question is like, what does the courtship process look
- 2:19Speaker 4: like at this moment?
- 2:20Speaker 1: You know, he kind of knows what everyone else has.
- 2:23Speaker 4: For the most part, I think we all have at
- 2:25Speaker 4: least some strong opinion about who's going to win and
- 2:28Speaker 4: who's not. He probably has a good idea of who
- 2:31Speaker 4: are contenders without him and who could be sincere contenders
- 2:35Speaker 4: with him. This is not going to be a salary
- 2:38Speaker 4: based decision by all accounts.
- 2:40Speaker 1: So what are the teams?
- 2:42Speaker 4: What are the teams using to make a case for
- 2:44Speaker 4: Lebron to come there right now?
- 2:48Speaker 3: And so with the players comfortable, in other words, those
- 2:52Speaker 3: veteran players that he knows for a long time, that
- 2:57Speaker 3: he keeps talking to them about something behind the scenes
- 3:01Speaker 3: that they could tell him that maybe he didn't know about.
- 3:04Speaker 3: So it's more just being comfortable. This last contract would
- 3:08Speaker 3: be let will be then the next two years we'll
- 3:10Speaker 3: put him twenty five seasons in the NBA. And so
- 3:13Speaker 3: that's why it's important. And I would really the team
- 3:17Speaker 3: I like the most is the seventy sixes because they
- 3:21Speaker 3: have Teris Maxie who's very good and Joel Embiid, which
- 3:26Speaker 3: is the X factor. When he's healthy, he is tremendous.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Let's not forget Joel Embiid. He's averaging twenty seven points
- 3:35Speaker 3: per game for his career, and so he gives him
- 3:37Speaker 3: a low post option the problem again, he's been hurt.
- 3:40Speaker 3: Last year, Joel Embiid played the most consecutive games less
- 3:44Speaker 3: season with six so that is a concern. So with
- 3:51Speaker 3: the seventy sixes, with Terre Maxi being absolutely a star player,
- 3:56Speaker 3: and with Jellen Brown being there another star player, had
- 4:00Speaker 3: a Dean Way from the Cavaliers who's a good outside shoot,
- 4:03Speaker 3: all around player, and then with j Edgecombe they have
- 4:06Speaker 3: a young star. It's probably the best basketball to fit
- 4:12Speaker 3: that and possibly they heat because i Giannis being there.
- 4:19Speaker 3: So there's so many reasons why he should go to
- 4:21Speaker 3: certain teams, and again it's more feeling how he fills
- 4:25Speaker 3: with the teammates in the last two years of his career.
- 4:30Speaker 4: When you say the seventy six ers are maybe the
- 4:32Speaker 4: best basketball fit, what percentage of that being the best
- 4:36Speaker 4: fit is with Joel Embiid healthy versus not. Because if
- 4:41Speaker 4: I'm Lebron, that's a big part of this decision. If
- 4:44Speaker 4: I feel like I could win a championship there as
- 4:48Speaker 4: long as Joel's healthy, I have to believe that he's
- 4:51Speaker 4: going to be mostly healthy. So how much of the
- 4:54Speaker 4: fit that you're talking about is attached to a healthy
- 4:56Speaker 4: Joel Embiid.
- 4:59Speaker 3: Dramatically. The answer is yes, that if we knew Father's time,
- 5:03Speaker 3: what would happen? He would be done already and usually
- 5:06Speaker 3: just trying to get all information about Joel Embiid, either
- 5:09Speaker 3: talking directly or talking to people that are around him.
- 5:12Speaker 3: Joel Embiid know hous his work ethics, but if it
- 5:16Speaker 3: does get hurt as he come back. These are all
- 5:18Speaker 3: things that he's just trying to outsource the people that
- 5:23Speaker 3: he trusts so he can make a better decision. And
- 5:26Speaker 3: also Jimmy Butler also with the Warriors. You know Jimmy,
- 5:30Speaker 3: Jimmy's hurt right now, is coming back probably sometime in December,
- 5:36Speaker 3: and what is he going to play like as far
- 5:38Speaker 3: as his skill set, injuries, et cetera. The recovery time
- 5:45Speaker 3: is a role. Again, He's are all question marks and
- 5:48Speaker 3: Lebron has to try to figure it out. Like money
- 5:50Speaker 3: is no issue. He's probably going to sign for the
- 5:55Speaker 3: vetterment minimum of three point eight eight million dollars, so
- 5:59Speaker 3: money is absolute no issue as far as his point
- 6:01Speaker 3: of view. And also the Sally Cap structure or Luxury
- 6:05Speaker 3: tex it's irrelevant right now in this situation. So it's exciting.
- 6:09Speaker 3: We'll see how it all plays out. Lebron is still
- 6:11Speaker 3: at each forty it be forty two in December. He's
- 6:14Speaker 3: still an elite player. He can really he can score
- 6:18Speaker 3: twenty nine in a playoff game to hold off the
- 6:20Speaker 3: opponent to win by one. And that's why those three
- 6:23Speaker 3: or four teams I mentioned, that's the reason why they
- 6:25Speaker 3: want them.
- 6:26Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm asking this question because it matters
- 6:29Speaker 4: in every other case, and it probably matters here, but
- 6:31Speaker 4: I'm not sure how much. But he's Lebron James, and
- 6:35Speaker 4: he could be the head coach of whatever team he's
- 6:38Speaker 4: on if he wanted to. So how much does the
- 6:40Speaker 4: fit with the coach matter here? We know that in
- 6:43Speaker 4: LA he was kind of able to put who he
- 6:45Speaker 4: wanted in place, And if you're only signing for two
- 6:48Speaker 4: years at the end of your career, I don't think
- 6:50Speaker 4: a franchise is going to give you that kind of
- 6:52Speaker 4: latitude anymore. So when you look at Minnesota, Cleveland, Golden
- 6:58Speaker 4: State Sixers, and all these options. Obviously Miami, he's very
- 7:03Speaker 4: familiar down there. Like, how much does the coach matter
- 7:06Speaker 4: in this decision?
- 7:07Speaker 1: Do you think?
- 7:11Speaker 3: Not as much? Truly? Not, because E'SI to go to
- 7:16Speaker 3: a veteran team where the players somewhat are self directed
- 7:22Speaker 3: team internally, which is absolutely critical, and that's most teams
- 7:25Speaker 3: that have veteran players. The head coach is absolutely in
- 7:28Speaker 3: charge of leadership, but the internal part of it where
- 7:32Speaker 3: the teammates where they really police themselves, whether it's whether
- 7:37Speaker 3: it's training habits, whether it's curfew, whether on a four
- 7:41Speaker 3: game losing streak that they all come together for a
- 7:44Speaker 3: meeting and say, what's going on here, We're not moving
- 7:47Speaker 3: the ball, we're not playing help to health defense. So
- 7:49Speaker 3: the coach with these type of players, they really are
- 7:53Speaker 3: on the floor coaching. So it doesn't it's not as
- 7:56Speaker 3: relevant as far as importance versus a younger team, whether
- 8:00Speaker 3: the coach is absolutely critical as far as developing good habits.
- 8:04Speaker 3: Steep now with Steve Curtive Warriors, he knows him very well.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Eric Sposam of the Heat, he knows very well. Nick
- 8:12Speaker 3: Nurse in a good way is a wild card, so
- 8:15Speaker 3: he doesn't really know him as well. But Nick Nurse
- 8:17Speaker 3: is absolutely tremendous coach. He's a really great communicator and
- 8:21Speaker 3: he's got a he has a he's got a personality
- 8:24Speaker 3: a good way where he lets the stars be stars,
- 8:27Speaker 3: and he never overacts, even though he's emotional in a
- 8:31Speaker 3: good way. He fights for his players on the sideline.
- 8:33Speaker 3: So suld be very interesting.
- 8:36Speaker 4: If you're an opposing GM, an opposing owner and opposing
- 8:40Speaker 4: coach and Lebron ends up in your division and even
- 8:43Speaker 4: in your conference in the Eastern Conference. Right we're seeing
- 8:46Speaker 4: teams and I think the Jazz had some of this
- 8:48Speaker 4: in their mind, uh, you know, building their roster. You're
- 8:51Speaker 4: seeing like, hey, you have to counteract what the other
- 8:54Speaker 4: contenders in your in your space have. Is Lebron still
- 8:59Speaker 4: a big enough factor of wherever he lands that roster
- 9:03Speaker 4: construction around him or in the other teams around the
- 9:08Speaker 4: league and the other teams around the conference and the
- 9:10Speaker 4: division will potentially change to try to counteract Lebron's presence.
- 9:16Speaker 3: No numb right now, not at age forty two. No,
- 9:19Speaker 3: the answer is no. He's a tremendous player, but they
- 9:21Speaker 3: wouldn't try to just counteract him. The only people trying
- 9:24Speaker 3: to counteract this Victor Wenbiamba, because he is such an
- 9:28Speaker 3: oddity in a great way. So you have to get
- 9:31Speaker 3: big guys to try to match up with him. That's
- 9:33Speaker 3: big guys that have mobile feet that can be able
- 9:36Speaker 3: to guard him out on perimeter, and soll Lebron Right now,
- 9:39Speaker 3: it's not. But again the seventy six is with Jellen
- 9:42Speaker 3: Brown being there, who's a tremendous two way player, and
- 9:45Speaker 3: so is Lebron, and so is Taris Maxi and Joel
- 9:49Speaker 3: Embiid when he's healthy, and so is young Vija Edgecombe.
- 9:55Speaker 3: That they have a really great roster. The seventy six
- 9:58Speaker 3: ers and the ran did go there, it will be
- 10:01Speaker 3: advantageous for him to try to attempt again to win
- 10:05Speaker 3: a championship. It's winning is so hard in the NBA.
- 10:08Speaker 3: There's so many factors that are involved. There's so many
- 10:12Speaker 3: ups and downs in the postseason where one or two
- 10:16Speaker 3: players could turn around your season. Like for example, we're
- 10:19Speaker 3: praising the Knickerbockers, but the Spurs in those five game series,
- 10:24Speaker 3: they lost some of those games that were self inflicted
- 10:26Speaker 3: themselves where they were up fourteen, sixteen points and they
- 10:31Speaker 3: weren't able to watch hold on a lead. Was it
- 10:33Speaker 3: the NIXT great defense? Was the John Brunston is brilliant
- 10:36Speaker 3: usually in the fourth quarter. Yes, However, from the Spurs
- 10:40Speaker 3: point of view, they lost those games that were themselves
- 10:43Speaker 3: and then they're going to try to correct it. Thunder
- 10:46Speaker 3: Here in the West also, they're saying Game seven that
- 10:49Speaker 3: we had Jalen Williams full force as far as last season,
- 10:53Speaker 3: we would have knocked out the upstart Spurs. So again
- 10:56Speaker 3: we'll see. And Jazz basketball, they're trying to get their
- 11:01Speaker 3: young talent into a defensive mindset, and so in Jazz
- 11:04Speaker 3: point of view, as far as they're moving up in
- 11:07Speaker 3: these standings, they've got to address that defensive lack of
- 11:10Speaker 3: Philip blankson whether it's brow containment, whether it's what getting
- 11:15Speaker 3: to the corner, the challenge of three point shot, whether
- 11:17Speaker 3: it's not playing consistent. Help to help the defense is
- 11:20Speaker 3: all little. These are all little slash big things that
- 11:24Speaker 3: will will help a team win. And it's again it's
- 11:27Speaker 3: most times when teams win, it's it's the almost like
- 11:30Speaker 3: the invisible things. While a team win, the nuances of
- 11:35Speaker 3: certain things showing like in football, when the running backs
- 11:41Speaker 3: what cracked somebody as far as on the edge rushers
- 11:44Speaker 3: to give the quarterback extra what second to what to
- 11:46Speaker 3: step into a throw. Little things help to help with defense,
- 11:50Speaker 3: little things, mismatch rebounding. These are all things that make
- 11:54Speaker 3: basketball and football so unbelievable. Nuance orientated.
- 11:59Speaker 4: Gordy here as our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show.
- 12:01Speaker 4: Our conversations with Gordy, the resident NBA guru, brought to
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- 12:08Speaker 4: maybe even exploring that idea, a Laddin Industries is your
- 12:11Speaker 4: vlux dealer here in the state of Utah. You mentioned
- 12:14Speaker 4: the Thunder just a second ago, and they made a
- 12:17Speaker 4: sneaky big trade. They unload lou Dort and the salary
- 12:23Speaker 4: associated with lou Dort. He goes to the Hawks in
- 12:25Speaker 4: a three team deal, three second round picks coming to
- 12:29Speaker 4: Oklahoma City, Zachary reesa Che goes to the Mavericks, and
- 12:33Speaker 4: Ryan Emhart ends up in Atlanta. Obviously, lou Dort has
- 12:38Speaker 4: been very important to what the Thunder dude defensively, especially
- 12:43Speaker 4: let's start there. What does that roster look like without
- 12:46Speaker 4: lou Dort. This feels like it's pretty salary driven for me,
- 12:50Speaker 4: Oh very much.
- 12:51Speaker 3: That's an understatement. Showints show. The first thing about this
- 12:56Speaker 3: Thunder they have wicked smart people that work there, meaning
- 13:01Speaker 3: Sam Pressing absolutely and that so they have a tremendous situation,
- 13:09Speaker 3: and they had to make a financial move with lou Dort,
- 13:15Speaker 3: whose defensive minded, but we saw in the playoffs that
- 13:18Speaker 3: his lack of overall consistent shooting expose them somewhat. So
- 13:25Speaker 3: they make that trade with lou Dort going to the
- 13:30Speaker 3: Hawks and entering right now showing the fregency after the draft,
- 13:36Speaker 3: the thunder were going to pay two hundred and twenty
- 13:39Speaker 3: four million dollars in payroll and money tax as we
- 13:43Speaker 3: speak right now, they're going to pay nineteen million. That's it.
- 13:48Speaker 3: They went from two twenty four million extra dollars to
- 13:51Speaker 3: down to nineteen just by just by moving lou Dort,
- 13:55Speaker 3: Aaron Wiggins and as they a Joe. So they did
- 14:00Speaker 3: that for financial reasons and they were they're able to
- 14:04Speaker 3: maintain those showing by doing that though they still maintained
- 14:08Speaker 3: their core. So lou Dort everyone likes, but he was
- 14:14Speaker 3: a luxury. So they still are able to They still
- 14:17Speaker 3: kept Shay Jills, Alexander Jillen, Williams, chet Hungri M. They're
- 14:22Speaker 3: able to keep. They are able to keep Cason Wallace,
- 14:26Speaker 3: able to keep Kreu Alex cru So they are able
- 14:30Speaker 3: to re sign as a Hartenstein and so eventually they
- 14:33Speaker 3: got to the Eventually they're gonna have to give money
- 14:37Speaker 3: to Cason Wallace, they know that and aj Mitchell. So
- 14:41Speaker 3: they kept their core people for another great run for
- 14:44Speaker 3: the Thunder and a Jeff basketball that he's trying to chase.
- 14:50Speaker 4: What do you think I mean, is lou Dort going
- 14:52Speaker 4: to justify uh kind of a close to max extension
- 14:56Speaker 4: or max extension with the Hawks? I mean, he was
- 15:00Speaker 4: part of the reason that he was so important for
- 15:02Speaker 4: the Oklahoma City Thunder is because they kind of have
- 15:04Speaker 4: everything else and he's a great defensive player, He's got
- 15:08Speaker 4: some offensive limitations, and I don't know if he's as
- 15:12Speaker 4: valuable of a piece for a non contender as he
- 15:15Speaker 4: is for a contender. Maybe it's unfair me to call
- 15:17Speaker 4: the Hawks a non contender, but I think you understand
- 15:20Speaker 4: the point. Is lou Dort going to be as valuable
- 15:23Speaker 4: and will his salary and a potential extension reflect that
- 15:26Speaker 4: for Atlanta as he was for Oklahoma City?
- 15:29Speaker 3: Well, that's extension right now is probably not on the table.
- 15:33Speaker 3: He makes this nick this year coming up the twenty
- 15:36Speaker 3: six twenty seventh season, he makes seventeen points seven million dollars.
- 15:40Speaker 3: He's the one dimensional in a good way, defensive minded,
- 15:44Speaker 3: and the Hawks have some other good players also the
- 15:47Speaker 3: defensive minded in Dyson Daniels. And they have this young
- 15:51Speaker 3: talented star player in Jalen Johnson, and so everything is
- 15:55Speaker 3: based on Jillen Johnson as far as they're what they're
- 15:59Speaker 3: doing right now. And they really they really liked their
- 16:02Speaker 3: team with also the kel Walker Alexander and so they
- 16:05Speaker 3: have a good they have a good young core. Jicky McCollum,
- 16:09Speaker 3: we all like, tremendous all around player at age thirty five.
- 16:13Speaker 3: They gave them the one year contract. So the Hawks
- 16:15Speaker 3: are trending up. But they didn't overpay dramatically to just
- 16:19Speaker 3: a one year contract. So I always say this all times, Sean,
- 16:22Speaker 3: is that when it's a one year contract that you
- 16:25Speaker 3: inherited or by the way, we are engaged, we're not
- 16:28Speaker 3: married to the player. So one year contracts are never
- 16:32Speaker 3: bad because it's one by next jo light, you can
- 16:35Speaker 3: get out of it, or we like what we saw,
- 16:37Speaker 3: we want to resign somebody, you meanwhy lou Dort. So
- 16:41Speaker 3: the Hawks did the right thing for them, and so
- 16:43Speaker 3: did the Thunder the correct thing for them, and That's
- 16:46Speaker 3: why the Thunder and the Spurs and all the teams
- 16:51Speaker 3: here in the West right now, Sean, I'm looking forward
- 16:53Speaker 3: to one little quick side note about this as far
- 16:56Speaker 3: as I'm really I'm trending right now, looking to see
- 17:00Speaker 3: the Portland Trailblazers if it works or not. Where Ja
- 17:03Speaker 3: Morant goes to the Trailblazers. It's not his talent, it's
- 17:07Speaker 3: more where his heads at right now. Dame Lillard's there
- 17:10Speaker 3: right now too, a tremendous two way player, and is
- 17:14Speaker 3: Scoot Henderson, who played very well for them. So I'm
- 17:17Speaker 3: looking forward to see which guy is moved. So it's
- 17:23Speaker 3: got to be probably Drough Holiday because Scoot Henderson's the future.
- 17:28Speaker 3: JOm Moran is the president right now, and Dame Lillard
- 17:32Speaker 3: is going to try to recapture what he once did
- 17:34Speaker 3: there as the franchise player. So I'm looking to see
- 17:37Speaker 3: what happens with Drew Holliday between now and training camp.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Gordy, what's your list today?
- 17:44Speaker 3: All right? My list today, Sean, Let's talk offense for
- 17:47Speaker 3: a second today. This list is that Bakers doesn't all
- 17:50Speaker 3: time NBA koremiders in most regular season games of scoring
- 17:57Speaker 3: twenty five points or more all time leaders. How many
- 18:02Speaker 3: times these players scored twenty five points and more in
- 18:06Speaker 3: an NBA game regular season? It's really who's who in basketball?
- 18:11Speaker 3: Number thirteen, Steph Curry did it five hundred and forty
- 18:15Speaker 3: three times. Number twelve, Shaquille O'Neal that is five point
- 18:19Speaker 3: fifty five. Number eleven, James Harden has done it five
- 18:23Speaker 3: sixty three, Number ten, Dominic Wilkins five seventy four, Number nine,
- 18:29Speaker 3: Jerry Wess five eighty one, Number eight, Oscar Robinson five
- 18:34Speaker 3: eighty four, Number seven, Will Chamberlain six thirty two, Number six,
- 18:41Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant six ninety two, Number five, Michael Jordan seven
- 18:47Speaker 3: sixty nine, Number four, Kevin Durant seven seven seven, Number three.
- 18:54Speaker 3: Carl Malone scored twenty five points on more in seven
- 18:59Speaker 3: hundred and eighty nine regular season games. Number two all time.
- 19:03Speaker 3: He did it with a skyhook. Kareem Abdul Jabbar scored
- 19:07Speaker 3: seven hundred and ninety three times twenty five points and more.
- 19:10Speaker 3: And number one Sean right on Cue and I talked
- 19:13Speaker 3: about him previously a few minutes ago. Lebron James is
- 19:17Speaker 3: the all time leader in most ever twenty five point games.
- 19:20Speaker 3: Or more regular season with nine hundred and eighty nine times,
- 19:26Speaker 3: so he should get it, should crack that list of
- 19:29Speaker 3: a thousand times he'll score over twenty five points. The
- 19:32Speaker 3: more his next team, wherever it might be, whether it's
- 19:35Speaker 3: seventy six's, Warriors eight or Caps, he shall do it.
- 19:38Speaker 3: So it's really an unbelievable list where the consistency of
- 19:42Speaker 3: scoring points in the game twenty five points and more.
- 19:45Speaker 3: Lebron's number one, and Carmelona Jazz basketball is number three.
- 19:49Speaker 3: Wowers speaking of will she wants Speaking of World Chamberlain,
- 19:53Speaker 3: you see today about his about his auction, what happened
- 19:58Speaker 3: with Wilt Chamberlain of and it walks you up.
- 20:01Speaker 4: Yep, the warm up jacket. Yeah, we've got that for
- 20:03Speaker 4: the daily Dump later. So Gordy's teasing something we're going
- 20:06Speaker 4: to talk about in about thirty minutes, a Wilt Chamberlain
- 20:11Speaker 4: jacket found at effectively the DI I will tell you
- 20:15Speaker 4: the full story coming up here.
- 20:17Speaker 1: Gordy, you're the man, appreciate your time as.
- 20:18Speaker 3: Always, Thanks you on peace out.
- 20:21Speaker 1: That's Gordy Chiasa. We'll double up here.
- 20:23Speaker 4: We'll start our number two with Sammy More talking Utah
- 20:26Speaker 4: football on ESPN seven hundred ninety