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The Rita Panahi Show | 21 November · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On SCO lils Oskodio.
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Speaker 2: This it's the reader Panahi Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the reader panehe Show. Coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight, we have a packed program for you. Senator
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Speaker 3: Hanson Young's anti Trump rant has been locked far and wide.
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Speaker 3: We will have a look at what she had to
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Speaker 3: say with Nick Kator. The Great Michael Schellenberger is in
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Speaker 3: the country and has a warning about free speech.
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Speaker 4: In Australia as the Albert Easy government.
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Speaker 3: Presses ahead with its all welling and censorship legislation.
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Speaker 4: Also joining me tonight is.
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Speaker 3: Pressure Gator to discuss the latest from the US, and
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Speaker 3: later in the hour Kinsey Schofield will give us an
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Speaker 3: update on Prince Harry's latest stunt and of course left
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Speaker 3: He's losing it.
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Speaker 5: Hey, this is a series about cutting off your trumpy
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Speaker 5: family members. Why do you need to be perfect?
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Speaker 3: Let's bring in senior fellow at the Menzies Research Center
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Speaker 3: and columnists with Australia newspaper, Nick Cata.
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Speaker 4: Nick, in your.
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Speaker 3: Latest piece for the ODS, you noted that despite all
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Speaker 3: the big talk about climate change, labor has failed to
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Speaker 3: bring down Australia's carbon emissions, rendering their claims of climate
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Speaker 3: progress as mere posturing. What's happened to Chris Bowen's grand plans?
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Speaker 6: Well, he hasn't brought down electricity prices either, has he
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Speaker 6: read from In fact, they've gone the other way. I
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Speaker 6: suppose the best you can say with emissions is they've
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Speaker 6: been static. They've flatlined under labor in the last two years,
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Speaker 6: two financial years, whereas they've been coming down slowly but
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Speaker 6: steadily really since two thousand and five, and that stopped
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Speaker 6: under labor. They may blame a lot of things for that.
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Speaker 6: One of the things I suspect maybe immigration. You know,
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Speaker 6: if you bring nearly a million people into the country,
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Speaker 6: you're going to.
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Speaker 2: Add to carbon emissions. But fact is that we're going
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Speaker 2: through all this pain.
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Speaker 6: We're desecrating our countryside, we're putting three through financial pain,
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Speaker 6: we're putting the poor people in broken hill will without
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Speaker 6: electricity pretty much or a fortnite and all this is
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Speaker 6: achieving nothing.
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Speaker 2: Nothing. We are not bringing down.
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Speaker 6: Emissions if you think that's important, as apparently labor does.
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Speaker 2: So what's it all about? What's it for? Chris Bowen?
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Speaker 2: Can you tell us?
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Speaker 3: Well, you've also written about the COP conferences. You say
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Speaker 3: they've basically become a redistribution of wealth conference. You've got
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Speaker 3: rich countries like Australia handing over huge amounts of cash
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Speaker 3: to poorer countries. Is COP twenty nine just a honey
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Speaker 3: pot for renewable energy rent seekers?
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Speaker 6: Nick, Well, that's what they're trying to do. They're creating
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Speaker 6: this huge fund. Now they've stopped chasing climate targets and
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Speaker 6: are chasing finance targets. Well, interestingly, Rita and I don't
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Speaker 6: think I covered this in my piece what's happening on
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Speaker 6: the it's very interesting nuclear is coming back into fashion.
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Speaker 6: At the COP conference nine years ago at Paris, when
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Speaker 6: they've set those Paris targets, it wasn't mentioned. Nuclear was
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Speaker 6: a dirty word. Even the French didn't talk about it,
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Speaker 6: and they're so good at it. But last year, of course,
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Speaker 6: twenty five countries signed up for the agreement to triple
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Speaker 6: the amount of nuclear power by twenty fifty. This time
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Speaker 6: another seven I think countries signed onto that. So labor
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Speaker 6: is very much out of step with the rest of
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Speaker 6: the world on this. Quietly, they're going nuclear because that's
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Speaker 6: the only solution to their problems.
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Speaker 3: Now let's talk about British car giant Jaguar.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're a giant, but there's certainly.
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Speaker 3: A luxury car brand and they seem determined to bud
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Speaker 3: light themselves. Have a look at this woke rebrand. Okay,
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Speaker 3: a classic car brand no more. I'm not sure what
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Speaker 3: any of that was about, but it shouldn't come as
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Speaker 3: a huge shock when you look at who maybe behind
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Speaker 3: that particular marketing campaign.
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Speaker 7: We've established over fifteen DEI groups such as Pride, who
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Speaker 7: are here tonight in They're back, Thank you guys for
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Speaker 7: coming women in engineering and neurodiversity matters. We've launched major
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Speaker 7: policy revision such as transitioning at work.
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Speaker 4: Transitioning at work.
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Speaker 3: That's Jaguar's UK brand director Nick. What do you think
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Speaker 3: of this rebrand? Am I being too negative? Is this
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Speaker 3: what's needed for them to reach a new market. I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't have thought too many Jaguar drivers would be on
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Speaker 3: board with some of the I don't even know what
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Speaker 3: that ad was. It just all looked fairly bizarre and lame.
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Speaker 3: It didn't look like innovation or exciting or anything particularly
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Speaker 3: visually enthralling.
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Speaker 2: Well there were no cars, were there.
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Speaker 6: You'd think that they want to show it come Jaguar
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Speaker 6: used to be all about the cars. You know, I
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Speaker 6: grew up lusting after the E type Jag, which was
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Speaker 6: sort of synonymous at that time with you know, women
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Speaker 6: in short skirts and boots to climb into these things
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Speaker 6: in the advertisements in the UK. How much of it
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Speaker 6: it has changed now they won't even show you the
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Speaker 6: car I got.
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Speaker 2: They're going to go all in electric.
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Speaker 6: But I see Jaguar used to have a slogan which
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Speaker 6: was the art of performance, so I think they're staying
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Speaker 6: true to that. This is very much a performance, isn't it.
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Speaker 6: It's a cultural performance to show how hip and woke
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Speaker 6: they are. But I'm not sure that that's really a
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Speaker 6: very big market for cars. And to take something that
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Speaker 6: used to be you know, really exciting, fast and dangerous
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Speaker 6: cars and to turn it into this, it's.
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Speaker 2: Not going to work, is it.
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Speaker 6: I think that we're going to see that company go
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Speaker 6: downhill much faster than Bud Like.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's a much bigger investment, isn't it. Eddie.
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Speaker 3: You have to wonder what people's perception of the brand
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Speaker 3: is going to be if they persist with this new direction.
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Speaker 3: Let's hear from Green Senator Sarah Hanson Young. I mentioned
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Speaker 3: her at the top of the show. She's gone on
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Speaker 3: this anti Trump tirade, and this clip is now circulating
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Speaker 3: on social media, plenty of mockery. I want your honest opinion, Nick,
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Speaker 3: about what Sarah Hanson Young has to say here.
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Speaker 8: So many Australians are pretty anxious since the results of
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Speaker 8: the US election. The majority of Australians actually, when they're
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Speaker 8: asked about how they would have voted, was that they
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Speaker 8: rejected the Trump election, and rightly.
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Speaker 4: So, because he's extreme. He's unstable, he's.
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Speaker 8: Irrational, he's dangerous, he's nasty, he's a felon. He assaults women,
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Speaker 8: he attacks minorities, he takes away women's rights but gives
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Speaker 8: all the power to his billionaire mates.
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Speaker 9: Wow.
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Speaker 4: She had a lot of things to say there.
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Speaker 3: Apparently he's an extremist, dangerous, assaulting women, attacking minorities, and
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Speaker 3: plenty of other things she had.
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Speaker 4: To say there. What do you make of that?
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Speaker 3: Is that the considered opinion of not just the Greens,
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Speaker 3: but the majority of the Labor Party.
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Speaker 2: Well, I suspect it is.
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Speaker 6: I'm interested, she says, the majority of Australians would feel
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Speaker 6: this way. That's not my experienced reader but maybe you
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Speaker 6: and I mixed in different circles. She's seriously, seriously been
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Speaker 6: put out by Donald Trump. It seems to have seriously
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Speaker 6: disturbed and made a very anxious indeed, like many people
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Speaker 6: on that side of politics. Frankly, I mean, I'm not
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Speaker 6: going to be much help to you. I'd like to
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Speaker 6: tell you what's going on in her head, but I
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Speaker 6: just do not understand why people have this visceral reaction
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Speaker 6: towards Trump, who you know, seems to have You know,
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Speaker 6: the American people voted for them in huge numbers. You
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Speaker 6: know they've got popular vote. He's a popular elected president,
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Speaker 6: and you know he probably do well. I make some mistakes,
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Speaker 6: no doubt they all do. But why do people get
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Speaker 6: so anxious about the American president? I just do not
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Speaker 6: understand why.
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of it has to do with
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Speaker 3: a lot of it has to do with some very
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Speaker 3: poor reporting on US domestic politics that we see here. Sadly,
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Speaker 3: it's just a regurgitation of MSNBCCN and talking points. So
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Speaker 3: if you speak to Australians who are aggrieved with Trump's
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Speaker 3: triumph at this election, and you ask them what troubles
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Speaker 3: them about the president, you very quickly work out that
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Speaker 3: they're largely ignorant of what's actually happened, and they've been
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Speaker 3: typically misinformed. So I have some sympathy for Senator Hanson Young.
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Speaker 3: Perhaps she's been watching too much of Channel nine and
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Speaker 3: the ABC Nikata. Thanks for your time tonight. Joining me
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Speaker 3: now is author, award winning independent journalist and CBR Chair
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Speaker 3: of Politics, Censorship and Free Speech at the University of Austin,
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Speaker 3: Michael Schallenberger.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 3: Michael's the man who exposed the Twitter files and is
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Speaker 3: currently in Australia on a quest to qu Labour's dangerous
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Speaker 3: Misinformation Bill.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 3: You've been in Parliament House talking to the politicians. Tell
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Speaker 3: me what you've learned and will this bill pass the
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Speaker 3: Upper House? Is this going to pass the Senate and
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Speaker 3: become law?
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Speaker 1: Hey? Read it. It's great to be with you, it's
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Speaker 1: great to be in Australia. I mean, I don't think
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Speaker 1: this legislation will pass. It's just too crazy. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what else to say about it. It's so sweeping.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it basically would allow the Prime Minister and
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Speaker 1: the Communications Minister to criminalize any kind of speech. It
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Speaker 1: has a provision that allows them to censor misleading speech,
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Speaker 1: which is just speech where people might get the wrong
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Speaker 1: idea from true facts and accurate information. I think people
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Speaker 1: forget that we have this wonderful solution to misinformation already.
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Speaker 1: It's called freedom of speech, it's called correcting misinformation. As
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Speaker 1: you know in our conversations in the past and everything
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Speaker 1: from climate change to crime. I'm the media itself and
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Speaker 1: the government itself are the main purveyors of misinformation. We
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Speaker 1: saw it on COVID origins, on the COVID vaccine. So
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Speaker 1: the solution to misinformation is to correct the information. Censorship
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Speaker 1: is never about the truth. It's always about power and control,
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Speaker 1: and that's clearly what this government feels like it needs.
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Speaker 1: It needs to It feels like it needs to exercise
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Speaker 1: control over the people. I think people see that it's
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Speaker 1: a sinister approach. The senators that we talked to, including
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Speaker 1: the crossbenchers, the unaffiliated senators, we're adamant that this is
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Speaker 1: not something that the Australian people want, and it appears
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Speaker 1: as that the Australian people themselves have now weighed in
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Speaker 1: with a significant number of negative comments to the Senate.
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Speaker 3: Now, amongst those crossbenches. Did you get a commitment from
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Speaker 3: them that they won't vote for this bill?
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Speaker 1: Well, it certainly at least from David Vann, who we
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Speaker 1: met with. Senator Van absolutely committed and agreed to take
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Speaker 1: a selfie with me to affirm that, and he said
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Speaker 1: he had heard from a lot of his constituents on
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Speaker 1: X formerly Twitter objecting to this. I mean the universally.
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Speaker 1: Senators said that this had really triggered a firestorm of
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Speaker 1: opposition and concern from ordinary folks in Australia. You know,
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Speaker 1: people particularly I think on X have been alarmed by
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Speaker 1: the amount of censorship that's been demanded by governments around
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Speaker 1: the world, the European Union, Ireland, Brazil, Canada, even in
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Speaker 1: the United States. We saw these efforts from sort of
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Speaker 1: deep state agencies to demand censorship. I think that this
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Speaker 1: has kind of made people more aware of the threat
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Speaker 1: and more you know, more resistant, and much more active
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Speaker 1: in opposing it.
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Speaker 3: And your reporting on this bill has brought the legislation
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Speaker 3: to the attention of people around the world, many Americans,
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Speaker 3: including the world's richest.
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Speaker 4: Man, Elon Musk.
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Speaker 3: What has been the reaction in America to what's happening here.
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Speaker 3: I've seen it described as Soviet style assault on free speech.
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Speaker 4: Is that how they see this.
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Speaker 3: And are we being perceived as a country that's lost
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Speaker 3: its way when it comes to free speech?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean absolutely. I mean Americans love Australia. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we certainly come here to visit as tourists. We have
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Speaker 1: a real affection for the Australian people who come and
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Speaker 1: visit us in the United States, I think we're all
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Speaker 1: really shocked. It's what's happening down Under has sort of
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Speaker 1: been the question for people. It's been a you know,
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Speaker 1: what's disturbing is that many of the similar tactics that
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Speaker 1: this government is proposing, including the use of supposedly unbiased
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Speaker 1: fact checkers who in fact are very biased, has been
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Speaker 1: proven by studies by the Institute for Public Affairs and others.
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Speaker 1: They've evaluated this in an objective way. So I think
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Speaker 1: we're all really shocked. I mean, we think of Australia
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Speaker 1: as as a free country. As part of the Five
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Speaker 1: Eyes nations, we have a very close nation security and
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Speaker 1: intelligence relationship and that is part of the concern as
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Speaker 1: well as it appears that some of this is coming
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Speaker 1: from the intelligence and security agencies between our governments and
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Speaker 1: that's obviously completely inappropriate and illegal, and so any whiff
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Speaker 1: of that and I think you start to really trigger
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Speaker 1: some serious concerns, both in the United States and here
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Speaker 1: in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Michael, what do you make of our e Karen the
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Speaker 3: E Safety Commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, who has politicized her
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Speaker 3: office repeatedly and even sued Elon Musk's X in an
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Speaker 3: effort to censor content. How responsible is she for what
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Speaker 3: we're seeing right now?
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Speaker 1: Well, obviously it's a huge concern. I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: an American in Australia working for the Australian government. She
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Speaker 1: came under pretty mysterious circumstances. She sort of confessed when
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Speaker 1: she came that she had been recruited by the CIA,
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Speaker 1: but was supposedly not working for the CIA. We had
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Speaker 1: seen other supposedly former CIA people involved in censorship in
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Speaker 1: the United States. We can't really get to the bottom
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Speaker 1: of what was going on here. It appears though that
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Speaker 1: this is a counter populist reaction after twenty sixteen to
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Speaker 1: Brexit and the election of Trump, where you see either
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Speaker 1: current or former intelligence officials in government agencies feeling that
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Speaker 1: they somehow have the right to tell people what they
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Speaker 1: can say and hear online. You know. One bright note
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Speaker 1: here is, of course, as you know and your audiences know,
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Speaker 1: that she tried to ban a video from being on
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Speaker 1: ex Twitter and other social media platforms, not just in
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Speaker 1: Australia but around the world, and an Australian court ruled
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Speaker 1: that that was unconstitutional and that that was not right
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Speaker 1: and she couldn't do that. So I think chalk that
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Speaker 1: up as a victory for free speech. But you know, Reta,
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Speaker 1: it's just amazing because you know, we'll have a victory somewhere,
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Speaker 1: we'll beat something back, like in Ireland and like Terminator too.
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Speaker 1: It just keeps coming back and demanding more. The censorship
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Speaker 1: industrial complex just keeps demanding more and more control over
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Speaker 1: the discourse. It's as though there's sort of a dark
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Speaker 1: force behind these characters that's just insisting that there be
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Speaker 1: this level of government control over speech. You know, It's
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Speaker 1: just there's nothing like it. There's never been anything like
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Speaker 1: it in the history of the Internet. It's really reminiscent
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Speaker 1: more of the Inquisition or the government reaction to the
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Speaker 1: printing press than it is to anything that we can
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Speaker 1: remember in recent history, and.
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Speaker 3: As you've demonstrated, it was so dangerous at a really
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Speaker 3: crucial period during the pandemic when voices were silence expert
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Speaker 3: voices leading infectious disease experts, and wrong decisions were made
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Speaker 3: because of that.
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Speaker 4: There was all sorts of.
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Speaker 3: Harm that occurred across a number of countries and particularly
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Speaker 3: here in Australia because of that. So to be going
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Speaker 3: down this road and ignoring those lessons is even more shocking.
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Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the government's move to
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Speaker 3: ban social media for under sixteens in this country. The
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Speaker 3: platforms set to be under restrictions include Instagram, x, Facebook,
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Speaker 3: TikTok and now Snapchat has also been added to the list.
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Speaker 3: Do you have any reservations about this kind of law.
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Speaker 1: I do have reservations about it, and I should say
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a father of two wonderful children and
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Speaker 1: I am concerned about the effect of social media on kids,
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Speaker 1: so I think it's a real issue. On the other hand,
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Speaker 1: I worry that it's a trojan horse to get digital ID,
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Speaker 1: which is something that really should scare us. It's like
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Speaker 1: a black mirror episode where you can see it kind
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Speaker 1: of to militarian government wants to control and see everything
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Speaker 1: that its citizens do, maybe create some sort of social
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Speaker 1: credit scheme like they do in China. So I do
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Speaker 1: worry about that. I would. You know, there are alternative
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Speaker 1: you know, there's phone free schools are being pursued in
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Speaker 1: the United States and around the world. But we just
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Speaker 1: keep seeing the government wanting more and more control. It's
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Speaker 1: more and more intrusive, more violations of our privacy, you know,
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Speaker 1: more demands over what we say, and you know, we
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Speaker 1: may forget. But like the worst misinformation has been by
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Speaker 1: the government. They said that COVID came from a wet
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Speaker 1: market into China, and now most intelligence agencies believe it
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Speaker 1: came from a lab. They said that if you took
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Speaker 1: the vaccine you wouldn't get sick. We know that you
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Speaker 1: do get sick. You know, we've seen this over and
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Speaker 1: over again of the government actually promoting disinformation and then
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Speaker 1: demanding censorship on the basis of that disinformation or misinformation,
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Speaker 1: certainly misleading information. So there's something going on here. We
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Speaker 1: don't totally understand it, but it's something quite creepy. It
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Speaker 1: involves the World Economic Forum constantly demanding more censorship, saying
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Speaker 1: that misinformation is the number one problem in the world.
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Speaker 1: We see the United Nations supposed are going after misinformation.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if there's any hope at all, it's just
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Speaker 1: that we now have the world's richest man who's really
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Speaker 1: created a free speech platform out of Twitter in the
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Speaker 1: form of x and President elect Trump has made very
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Speaker 1: strong commitment to restoring freedom of speech to the online world,
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Speaker 1: you know, in part response to the fact that he
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Speaker 1: was illegitimately deplatformed even though he had not broken any
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Speaker 1: of Twitter's rules, and of course, you know, not to
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Speaker 1: get into the Hunter Biden laptop and so many other
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Speaker 1: efforts that actually led Mark Zuckerberg, the owner of Meta
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Speaker 1: and Facebook, to apologize a few months ago for him
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Speaker 1: censoring the Hunter Biden laptop, for the censorship of COVID origins,
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Speaker 1: for the censorship of the COVID vaccine. Mark Zuckerberg said
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Speaker 1: it was inappropriate what the government's actions were, so and
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Speaker 1: certainly Elon Musk thinks that. So to see the governments
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Speaker 1: of the world keep coming back for more censorship, more
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Speaker 1: invasion of privacy, it's very disturbing. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: and that's part of the why I wanted to be here,
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Speaker 1: is to show some solidarity for free speech lovers here
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Speaker 1: in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Well, before you go, I want to play you clip
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Speaker 3: from the Greg Guttfeld program, our ambassador to the US,
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Speaker 3: former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's antiques of made Guttfeld's program.
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Speaker 3: And I don't think Kevin Rudd's gonna like this too much.
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Speaker 11: Trump's triggering lefty foreign leaders like a quarter pounder out
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Speaker 11: of Peter Rally. Now foreign leaders are suddenly making nice.
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Speaker 11: Australia's ambassador to America had previously called Trump the most
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Speaker 11: destructive president in history, but now he's congratulating him and
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Speaker 11: looking forward to working closely with Trump.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 11: Wonder the OSSes invented the boomerang. I kind of like
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Speaker 11: the fact that they went from his hitler to hey,
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Speaker 11: we could probably work with this guy.
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Speaker 4: Ah Michael.
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Speaker 3: There are a lot of never Trumpers and people who
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Speaker 3: were very, very bold in saying all sorts of terrible,
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Speaker 3: hyperbolic things about Donald Trump who are now trying to backtrack.
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Speaker 3: Certainly there's a few of them in the British government,
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Speaker 3: but also right here in Australia. Tell me about that phenomenon,
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Speaker 3: because it's I think evident in the US.
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Speaker 4: As well.
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Speaker 3: You've got the MSNBC hosts having meetings with Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: after seven years of calling him hitler.
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Speaker 1: Well, there you go. I mean, and it's not the
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Speaker 1: first time that we've seen this. I mean, we all
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Speaker 1: remember this summer when the media insisted that Joe Biden
21:22
Speaker 1: was fine and he was youthful and vibrant, and then
21:26
Speaker 1: twenty four hours later they said he had to drop
21:29
Speaker 1: out of the race because of his poor performance against
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. The mainstream news media has lost so much credibility.
21:36
Speaker 1: We now know that Comcast is selling MSNBC because it's
21:41
Speaker 1: just been a failing network. It's lost a huge amount
21:44
Speaker 1: of audience share since the election. It misled its own
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Speaker 1: viewers into thinking that Kamala Harris was winning in the
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Speaker 1: polls and was poised to win, trying to be badly wrong.
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Speaker 1: And I think that we're seeing a reaction that people
21:56
Speaker 1: have a chance now to get truth from other places,
21:58
Speaker 1: including from social media. So yeah, I mean, you see
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Speaker 1: that kind of behavior. It's sad, really, I mean, you
22:05
Speaker 1: see these Australian politicians who were just disparaging Trump and
22:08
Speaker 1: the now flip flopping and saying that they want to
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Speaker 1: work with them. How can you trust somebody like that?
22:13
Speaker 1: And how can you trust a government that's trying to
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Speaker 1: censor social media platforms, not just in Australia but around
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Speaker 1: the world. I mean, there's this provision in this Misinformation
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Speaker 1: Bill that would where they want to censor what people
22:24
Speaker 1: see everywhere. It just feels so aggressive and so hostile.
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Speaker 1: It's not starting the relationship with the incoming Trump administration
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Speaker 1: on the right foot. You know. I think they're probably
22:35
Speaker 1: going to need somebody else to restart the relationship, just
22:39
Speaker 1: given the terrible things that the ambassador of the United
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Speaker 1: States has said.
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Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right. I think that is untenable
22:48
Speaker 3: that appointment. I think Kevin needs to come home. Michael Schellenberger,
22:53
Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time tonight.
22:57
Speaker 1: Great to be with you.
22:57
Speaker 4: Rita still to come.
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Speaker 3: Left these losing it, plus the Democrats overwhelmingly want Kamala
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Speaker 3: Harris to run again in twenty twenty eight.
23:07
Speaker 4: Kosher Gator has the details.
23:09
Speaker 3: Next Welcome back. Now it's time for lefties losing it
23:21
Speaker 3: and here's back. Here is transactivist Jeff Marsh with more
23:26
Speaker 3: family friendly advice sure to turn a confused lefty into
23:31
Speaker 3: a really sad and lonely lefty.
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Speaker 5: Hi, this is a series about cutting off your trumpy
23:37
Speaker 5: family members. Why do you need to be perfect? Why
23:42
Speaker 5: do you need to consider everyone's feelings and make sure
23:46
Speaker 5: everyone is okay in the situation and watch what you
23:49
Speaker 5: say and say it perfectly? Is it right? While they
23:52
Speaker 5: get to say whatever, they get to be racist.
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Speaker 3: And the fallout from MSNBC's Morning Joe, Duo Joe and
24:00
Speaker 3: Visiting with Trump continues. The lefties are fighting among themselves. Folks,
24:05
Speaker 3: grab the popcorn and enjoy. Here's Rosio o'dole laying into
24:10
Speaker 3: her fellow lefties, calling them despicable, despicable.
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Speaker 9: So Mika and Joe went down to mar Largo to
24:17
Speaker 9: kiss the ring. So last time I ever watched Morning
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Speaker 9: Joe period end of statement, unreal, unreal. For months you
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Speaker 9: were telling us he's the worst thing that could happen
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Speaker 9: in this country and democracy, and then you go.
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Speaker 4: Kiss his ring. Despicable, despicable. You both thea so much fun.
24:44
Speaker 4: Let's see it now.
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Speaker 3: From a grief counselor who wants to help those dealing
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Speaker 3: with grief in the holiday period.
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Speaker 12: I think holidays are some of the toughest times after
24:55
Speaker 12: we've had a loved one who's died. So I hope
25:00
Speaker 12: these tips will help you move through this challenging time.
25:04
Speaker 12: So Thanksgiving, there is this sense of it's going to
25:08
Speaker 12: be an amazing Thanksgiving, and Thanksgiving is about to get
25:12
Speaker 12: you know, togetherness. And first of all, Thanksgiving is a
25:17
Speaker 12: met up holiday. It's actually about how we took a
25:22
Speaker 12: country away from Native Americans.
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Speaker 1: So just remember that.
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Speaker 4: What did he say?
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Speaker 3: That's what passes for advice from a grief Counselor don't
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Speaker 3: worry about missing your loved ones a cherished holidays cause colonization.
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Speaker 3: Really give me the time to brate American Indians for
25:40
Speaker 3: not being offended by the redskins or for overwhelmingly voting
25:46
Speaker 3: for Donald Trump.
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Speaker 4: Yes, those figures are right.
25:49
Speaker 3: That's according to NBC exit polls, the group with the
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Speaker 3: highest percentage of support for Donald Trump was American Indians
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Speaker 3: with sixty five percent acting President Trump only thirty four
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Speaker 3: percent voting for Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 4: Now we've already played.
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Speaker 3: You a clip of lefty election forecaster professor Alan Lickman
26:10
Speaker 3: having a meltdown during an interview, claiming that he's the
26:13
Speaker 3: expert and essentially walking off well, Paul old Allen has
26:19
Speaker 3: had a rough few days. Let's have a look at
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Speaker 3: how it started. The bold predictions of a Biden victory,
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Speaker 3: of a Kamala victory, and then the tangr.
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Speaker 13: A lot would have to go wrong for Joe Biden
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Speaker 13: to lose this election. Kamala Harris will be a president
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Speaker 13: breaking president of the United States, the first woman president
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Speaker 13: in US history.
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Speaker 2: Can I just finish the guy damn started? I don't
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Speaker 2: need you to call me stupid.
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Speaker 3: That's what happens when you make predictions based on wishful
26:52
Speaker 3: thinking rather than facts. And I hope you have some
26:55
Speaker 3: popcorn left because we have more lefties attacking each other.
26:58
Speaker 4: Here is Jink and Lickman going at it.
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Speaker 13: Enjoy total making world of denial. I read your own followers'
27:08
Speaker 13: comments and they all trashed you, every one of them,
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Speaker 13: and supported me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, riot with your personal come.
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Speaker 1: Find out again.
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Speaker 2: Make whatever point you want it, don't make it.
27:17
Speaker 1: You don't know anything.
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Speaker 4: You don't know what attacked me personally. So deluded. I've
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Speaker 4: only been a profession.
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Speaker 1: I've never been able to finish.
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Speaker 2: How many books have you published for other You got
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Speaker 2: it wrong.
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Speaker 13: You were monstrously and stupidly wrong.
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Speaker 6: So okay, all right, can I just finish your goddamn
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Speaker 6: stupid ever on this show.
27:39
Speaker 4: It wasn't over yet.
27:41
Speaker 3: Someone ordered a tall glass of shut up juice.
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Speaker 13: Hey, Alan, you deserve a tall glass of shut up juice?
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Speaker 8: So can you just shut up for a second and
27:51
Speaker 8: let someone who knows what.
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Speaker 1: They're doing.
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Speaker 2: Want so?
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Speaker 13: I will not sit here and sell for personal acts
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Speaker 13: for blasphemy against me.
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Speaker 2: You don't need to do that.
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Speaker 1: You don't blasphemy against us?
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Speaker 7: Okay?
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Speaker 3: Joining me now for more lefties losing it? Content is
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Speaker 3: Sky News contributed Kosher gay. Let's have some fun and
28:17
Speaker 3: frivolity kosher before we get into the serious stuff, including
28:20
Speaker 3: Trump's inspired pick for Education Secretary Alan Lickman. Goodness may
28:26
Speaker 3: this Sarga continues after the week long tantrum, and we've
28:30
Speaker 3: brought you plenty of clips about that. He's now announced
28:33
Speaker 3: that he's leaving X and shifting his social media presence
28:37
Speaker 3: to lefty safe haven Blue Sky. I've got to say
28:43
Speaker 3: with this guy, he really has embarrassed himself this week.
28:46
Speaker 3: I can't work out if these predictions and his refusal
28:50
Speaker 3: to accept reality and just doubling down on this narrative
28:56
Speaker 3: is I don't know wishful thinking he really wanted it
28:58
Speaker 3: to be to be true, or whether some of these
29:02
Speaker 3: polsters are actually trying to influence the election result by
29:07
Speaker 3: pumping up certain candidates and presenting their data in a
29:11
Speaker 3: certain way. I just don't understand how that can be
29:14
Speaker 3: so wrong so consistently when it comes to Donald Trump.
29:17
Speaker 10: I think there's definitely something to the latter, where the
29:19
Speaker 10: polling industry, which is like a twenty billion dollar industry
29:22
Speaker 10: in India, is in the business of shaping public opinion
29:25
Speaker 10: rather than measuring public opinion. Overall, that's only true even
29:29
Speaker 10: with Brexit. You saw it with the twenty sixteen rives
29:31
Speaker 10: of Trump and twenty twenty as well. They overall predicted
29:34
Speaker 10: it correctly, but by less. They thought he was going
29:36
Speaker 10: to lose by a lot and he didn't. And even
29:39
Speaker 10: now it's interesting with Alan though, because he has this
29:42
Speaker 10: cute model, you know, it made him famous. The key's
29:45
Speaker 10: the key, something different, and he was right for nine
29:48
Speaker 10: out of the eleven previous elections. And he's not the
29:51
Speaker 10: only person who's wrong right now. So there was a
29:53
Speaker 10: graceful way to bow out gracefully, and just these tantrums
29:57
Speaker 10: are going to live on X whether he has left
29:59
Speaker 10: X or not, and it's unfortunately.
30:01
Speaker 4: He'll be back.
30:02
Speaker 3: They keep leaving, They keep announcing their departure like they're
30:05
Speaker 3: at the airport. No one needs to know you're leaving.
30:07
Speaker 3: You just delete your account. They go to threads, they
30:11
Speaker 3: go to this new one, Blue Sky or whatever this
30:13
Speaker 3: one's called. But they'll be back because the traffic, the
30:16
Speaker 3: interaction that the presence is, it's the pleas to be.
30:20
Speaker 4: So they kind of just come back with.
30:22
Speaker 3: The tail between their legs talking about tales between legs.
30:27
Speaker 3: MSNBC program Morning Joe, the host spent what seven eight
30:31
Speaker 3: years demonizing Trump, calling him hitler, threat to democracy, and
30:36
Speaker 3: much worse. But an effort to save their sliding ratings,
30:39
Speaker 3: they asked for a meeting with Trump.
30:42
Speaker 4: They were somehow granted that meeting.
30:43
Speaker 3: I thought that was very generous of the president, But
30:46
Speaker 3: that has backfired, Coach Shaggles. New York Post is reporting
30:50
Speaker 3: that the show's ratings have tanked further and the program's
30:55
Speaker 3: official X account has disabled comments because there is just
31:00
Speaker 3: such a tsunami of hate coming.
31:03
Speaker 4: From their lefty audience.
31:05
Speaker 3: Who are I rate that these two would sit down
31:09
Speaker 3: with a man that they've been telling their audience for
31:12
Speaker 3: seven solid years is going to destroy the country.
31:18
Speaker 4: Is a stretch like the America has never faced.
31:21
Speaker 10: Before, literal Hitler and everybody smiling and taking photos. And
31:26
Speaker 10: mar Lago's the other place to be alongside X and
31:28
Speaker 10: they all want to go there, including these two. It's
31:31
Speaker 10: funny because you know, in twenty sixteen, when no one
31:33
Speaker 10: was taking Trump seriously.
31:34
Speaker 2: They actually really boosted him.
31:35
Speaker 10: They allowed him to keep dialing into their program, and
31:38
Speaker 10: they had very fusive things to say about him. And
31:40
Speaker 10: then when he was getting traction, they turned did this
31:43
Speaker 10: eight year caricature, as you mentioned. And now I'm not
31:46
Speaker 10: sure they thought it through because who are they speaking to.
31:48
Speaker 10: The Republican base did not like to see them and
31:50
Speaker 10: actually didn't want them meeting to take place, doesn't want
31:52
Speaker 10: any reconciliation. The Democrat base, some of them, the ones
31:56
Speaker 10: who really believe he's Hitler, are not happy that he
31:58
Speaker 10: took that meeting. So I'm not sure who they were
32:00
Speaker 10: speaking to. And Comcasts apparent company just spun them off.
32:04
Speaker 10: And so they're going to be publicly traded now, the
32:06
Speaker 10: entire cable package, including MSNBC. They might have new owners
32:09
Speaker 10: in the future, so I think they've got a tough
32:11
Speaker 10: road ahead.
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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely.
32:13
Speaker 3: I mean MSNBC's primetime ratings have plummeted. It's not just
32:18
Speaker 3: the Morning Joe program, And I thought maybe that.
32:22
Speaker 4: Was behind they're not demand.
32:25
Speaker 3: They're begging to meet Donald Trump because maybe they thought, Okay,
32:29
Speaker 3: we need to change tact here. Obviously we picked the
32:32
Speaker 3: wrong team. But you're right, their audience isn't open to that.
32:36
Speaker 3: Their audience is hard left. They don't want them meeting
32:39
Speaker 3: with Donald Trump. And don't understand why Donald Trump would
32:43
Speaker 3: give them this meeting unless he's playing some sort.
32:46
Speaker 4: Of four D chess.
32:47
Speaker 3: He knew how this was going to backfire and completely
32:50
Speaker 3: destroy them.
32:51
Speaker 10: I think he liked to see people who are his
32:53
Speaker 10: foes be self humiliating. They're humulating themselves.
32:56
Speaker 4: There's probably something.
32:57
Speaker 3: To it, don't Maybe they he anticipated this, but I
33:02
Speaker 3: don't know. But the President elect does remain definant about
33:07
Speaker 3: his nominations for key positions, including Matt Gates for Attorney General,
33:13
Speaker 3: and that is one of his most controversial decisions.
33:16
Speaker 4: He was asked about it, mister.
33:18
Speaker 14: President, are you reconsidering the nomination of Matt Gates.
33:21
Speaker 4: No, it's a fairly emphatic answer.
33:24
Speaker 3: Gates has been a victim of law fare himself kosher,
33:28
Speaker 3: and I wonder whether that's partly behind this nomination. Trump
33:33
Speaker 3: wants someone who's personally been impacted, who's got not just
33:37
Speaker 3: the ability, but the motivation to tackle this huge area.
33:42
Speaker 4: This is one of the biggest tasks.
33:44
Speaker 10: One hundred percent, so the dog of all the peaks,
33:47
Speaker 10: it could be argued as the nerve center of the
33:49
Speaker 10: whole thing, and his ability to successfully execute the mandate.
33:53
Speaker 10: He was handed in this landslide election because the first
33:56
Speaker 10: time around, his Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, was aligned with him,
33:59
Speaker 10: but he didn't know how the system worked and was
34:02
Speaker 10: so quick to recuse. That led to the Mother investigation,
34:04
Speaker 10: which completely hamstrung his first administration, and then the second
34:08
Speaker 10: one under Biden is the merk Garland and his jergy
34:12
Speaker 10: is the one that brought two of those four cases
34:14
Speaker 10: and coordinated with the other state run cases which completely
34:16
Speaker 10: also potentially was going to put him in jail. So
34:19
Speaker 10: you can understand where he's coming from. And he wants
34:21
Speaker 10: a brawler, a real brawler. A lot of other people
34:23
Speaker 10: have also been quick to criticize Matt Gates's lack of
34:26
Speaker 10: experience allegedly, but he is a lawyer. He graduated from
34:29
Speaker 10: a good university. He passed the Florida Bar exam on
34:31
Speaker 10: the first round. He's a pretty talented cross examiner. He's young.
34:35
Speaker 10: I think you know that's okay. You can have technically
34:37
Speaker 10: strong people, legally technically strong people underneath him and have
34:40
Speaker 10: somebody like him at the top. But he is very controversial.
34:43
Speaker 10: A lot of Republicans are his enemies. And buckle up
34:46
Speaker 10: because this is going to be quite all right.
34:48
Speaker 3: And you can understand why some Republicans joined to like him.
34:52
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about the politicians here and not the voters,
34:55
Speaker 3: because he will go after them too. He will talk
34:58
Speaker 3: about how that bought by the lobbyists and the.
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Speaker 4: And he doesn't want that.
35:06
Speaker 3: He wants the mums and dads, the ten twenty dollars
35:11
Speaker 3: donations to fuel campaigns to have some honesty there. And
35:14
Speaker 3: I've got to say, I think most Americans, whatever side
35:17
Speaker 3: of politics they're from, would embrace that. Donald Trump has
35:21
Speaker 3: named his transition coach air Linda McMahon as his pick
35:25
Speaker 3: for Education Secretary. She has previously served in Trump's first
35:30
Speaker 3: term as leader of the Small Business Administration. She is
35:34
Speaker 3: a highly capable businesswoman, there is no doubt about that,
35:37
Speaker 3: decades of experience, but she also.
35:41
Speaker 4: Did this in a former life.
35:43
Speaker 14: Here she is with Cain at the WWE.
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Speaker 3: Now these days, Kine, the scary wrestler you can see there,
36:15
Speaker 3: also known as Glenn Thomas Jacobs, is the mayor of
36:19
Speaker 3: Knox County incredibly, and Linda McMahon is going to be
36:23
Speaker 3: Education Secretary. So it's quite an incredible time to be
36:27
Speaker 3: a life COACHHK.
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Speaker 10: You have to love it. This is, you know, the
36:30
Speaker 10: American government at its best is meant to be for
36:32
Speaker 10: the people, by the people of the people, and this
36:35
Speaker 10: is that personified where you've got somebody who's moved on
36:38
Speaker 10: to be, as you say, the mayor of a small
36:40
Speaker 10: town in Tennessee. She's now served twice or will be
36:43
Speaker 10: serving twice in the administration. And the thing is, in
36:45
Speaker 10: the modern era, they understand that understanding media, how to
36:49
Speaker 10: wield media, and the value of entertainment is actually a
36:52
Speaker 10: really big asset in politics because it is ultimately a
36:55
Speaker 10: communication job in large part. And the WWE franchise, she's
36:58
Speaker 10: the wife of the founder of Sevince McMahon. They've turned
37:02
Speaker 10: this thing into a seven billion dollar franchise. It's one
37:04
Speaker 10: of the top things. So she's playing her part there,
37:06
Speaker 10: but I think fun times ahead.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and she's often credited for being the brains
37:12
Speaker 3: behind that operation.
37:14
Speaker 4: It is a family run business.
37:16
Speaker 3: Now there's already talk within Democrat circles about who is
37:20
Speaker 3: going to be their candidate in twenty twenty eight.
37:23
Speaker 4: Yes, they're trying to look ahead. They're very depressed about
37:25
Speaker 4: what's happening right now, and one name is leading the pack.
37:30
Speaker 3: It's Kamala Harris. This is according to fresh polling of
37:33
Speaker 3: Democrat voters. They want Kamala to run again in twenty
37:36
Speaker 3: twenty eight. She's well ahead of Gavin Nusm via California
37:41
Speaker 3: Governor Josh Shapiro to Pennsylvania Governor Pete Bush.
37:45
Speaker 4: Jake, I can't believe he's even the running. He's hopeless.
37:48
Speaker 3: Kamala got forty one percent of those polled. The others
37:53
Speaker 3: were way behind with eight, seven and six percent, respectively.
37:57
Speaker 3: If she's a candidate again, surely not.
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Speaker 4: It's early days. But who do you see looking ahead?
38:03
Speaker 3: I would have thought it may be a bit obvious,
38:07
Speaker 3: but Josh Shapiro and Gavin Newsom a highly electable. Never
38:12
Speaker 3: mind the mess Gavin has made of California.
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Speaker 10: Yes, for sure, this I think is a statistical era.
38:18
Speaker 10: There's recency bias, there might be sympathy bias or something
38:21
Speaker 10: coloring those numbers. She's never won anything nationally, and other
38:25
Speaker 10: people who ran against Republicans and loss, like Hillary Clinton,
38:28
Speaker 10: John Kerry exited the stage. So I don't see how
38:30
Speaker 10: she's going to rise like a phoenix. In terms of
38:33
Speaker 10: who would do it, I think the ones you mentioned
38:34
Speaker 10: are right. You know, Gavin Newsom, he's telegenic, he's good looking,
38:37
Speaker 10: he runs the biggest state he is. His positions are
38:40
Speaker 10: very radical given he's been running California, so that's going
38:42
Speaker 10: to be a hurdle for him to get over. Josh
38:44
Speaker 10: Shapiro is actually very popular. He governs as a moderate.
38:47
Speaker 10: Some question whether he's actually a moderate, but he governs
38:50
Speaker 10: as one. Gretten Whitmer from Michigan, maybe though she had
38:53
Speaker 10: that issue with the feeding the chips thing, maybe that'll
38:55
Speaker 10: be the end.
38:56
Speaker 4: Of her conduct.
38:58
Speaker 3: And Newsm's during COVID like she was an absolute current,
39:03
Speaker 3: tyrant and irrational. I remember she was locking up seed
39:07
Speaker 3: sections in markets where people couldn't buy seeds to plant,
39:13
Speaker 3: but then you could do all sorts.
39:15
Speaker 4: Of other things. It was just irrational and cruel. And
39:20
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's going to be forgotten. Maybe
39:22
Speaker 4: it will be, it'll be it.
39:22
Speaker 10: It's a quite an important stage, but I think you're right.
39:24
Speaker 10: And then Mark Kelly would be another name. I'd throw in,
39:26
Speaker 10: the astronaut senator from Arizona as well, But lots of
39:29
Speaker 10: time to go until then.
39:31
Speaker 3: Now before you go, the illegal immigrant who murdered twenty
39:35
Speaker 3: two year old nursing student Lake and Riley in February,
39:40
Speaker 3: jose Antonia Ibarra, has been sentenced in the last twenty
39:44
Speaker 3: four hours. He will be in prison for life without
39:47
Speaker 3: the possibility of parole. This case, Kosher, was hugely important
39:53
Speaker 3: in the months leading.
39:54
Speaker 4: Up to the election.
39:55
Speaker 3: It really highlighted in a single case, the madness of
40:01
Speaker 3: the Biden Harris border crisis, the fact that there have
40:05
Speaker 3: literally been thousands of violent criminals who have been allowed
40:11
Speaker 3: to roam free in the US.
40:12
Speaker 10: It has become a tragic but very powerful symbol of
40:16
Speaker 10: that catastrophe of an issue, and that was, among others,
40:20
Speaker 10: that was probably the biggest reason for the downfall of
40:22
Speaker 10: the Democrat Party writ large across the electorate for sure,
40:25
Speaker 10: So some justice for the family because of this, But
40:29
Speaker 10: if you zoom out, it's meager justice. I would say,
40:32
Speaker 10: because the Justice Department failed with the whole thing, the
40:35
Speaker 10: fact that this person was allowed in here taxpayer funded flights,
40:38
Speaker 10: I would let him from New York to Georgia, and
40:40
Speaker 10: then he did this, So it's a horrible day. Maybe
40:43
Speaker 10: with the deportation plans, even criminals that are in prisons
40:46
Speaker 10: can be deported so that the US taxpayers and funding
40:48
Speaker 10: his life for the rest of time.
40:50
Speaker 3: That is, And people are pointing to this case when
40:54
Speaker 3: the deportations start, and you're going to have a lot
40:57
Speaker 3: of sympathetic stories in the media of people being deported,
41:01
Speaker 3: and I think they're going to point to this case
41:03
Speaker 3: and say there's a reason this is happening. And of
41:06
Speaker 3: course good people will be caught up in it, but
41:09
Speaker 3: good people who broke the law by coming into the
41:11
Speaker 3: country illegally.
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Speaker 4: Koshegator, thanks for your time tonight, Sure still to come.
41:15
Speaker 3: Kinsey Schofield is here to give us an update on
41:18
Speaker 3: Prince Harry's later stunt.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield Kinsey.
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Speaker 3: HBO has defended its decision to involve jk Rowling in
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Speaker 3: the creation of its new Harry Potter TV series. In
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Speaker 3: a statement, they said jk Rowling has a right to
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Speaker 3: express her personal views will remain focused on the development
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Speaker 3: of the new series, which will only benefit from her involvement.
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Speaker 3: Isn't it crazy that they need to defend this decision
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Speaker 3: or even explo Of course, jk Rowling should be involved
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Speaker 3: in any Harry Potter project.
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Speaker 4: It's her work.
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Speaker 15: And I truly would love to know if this decision
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Speaker 15: was made before or after Donald Trump was elected into
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Speaker 15: the White House, because I wonder if they thought, you
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Speaker 15: know what, we see something, we see a shift, because
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Speaker 15: the reality is this is such a huge This is
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Speaker 15: such a huge project, This is such a huge brand
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Speaker 15: that it will succeed no matter how many people say
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Speaker 15: they're not going to watch it, no matter how many
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Speaker 15: petitions are signed, this is going to be a successful project.
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Speaker 15: HBO knows that, and so you know, why not push
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Speaker 15: back a little bit?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely in some of the former actors, the child actors
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Speaker 3: who are now will into adulthood, they've been amongst the
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Speaker 3: biggest detractors of jk Rowling really showing not only a
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Speaker 3: very close minded approach to this issue. They can't tolerate
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Speaker 3: people with different viewpoints, spot also ungrateful Kinsey, there'd be
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Speaker 3: nowhere without her words?
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Speaker 4: And where are they?
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Speaker 15: Rita like, I don't ever turn on the TV and
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Speaker 15: randomly see them. I don't see them in movies, I don't,
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Speaker 15: you know, particularly the young female I'm spacing on her
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Speaker 15: name does represent herself as a proud feminist, and I
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Speaker 15: think that jk Rowling's points are much more in the
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Speaker 15: lane of feminism and protecting and protecting women and protecting
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Speaker 15: what we fought for over the over the last few
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Speaker 15: decades than anything that I've seen her represent. So I'd
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Speaker 15: say that where are they? You know, they can fight,
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Speaker 15: they can be critical all they want, but I don't
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Speaker 15: see them working as much as they could be working,
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Speaker 15: you know, considering the success that they had as children.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely household names. It's not too often, Kinsey that I
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Speaker 3: defend Prince Harry, but I've got to defend him here
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Speaker 3: because he's come under fire for foul language supposedly and
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Speaker 3: a tattoo stunt. This is in a video to promote
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Speaker 3: the Invictors games.
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Speaker 4: Let's have a look. You give me your tattoo and
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Speaker 4: then you complain in Victors Games.
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Speaker 2: That easy for a deal. Let's go where you want to.
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Speaker 1: You got to go for the neck, the neck like
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Speaker 1: my low back or nobody.
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Speaker 2: Wants to see your cares the place where no one's
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Speaker 2: going to see it.
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Speaker 3: Kinzy, don't tell me people are offended by that. Come on,
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Speaker 3: that's just that's nothing. That's surely not offensive.
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Speaker 15: Well though, the commentary online is that that's not the
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Speaker 15: type of behavior they expect from a prince, and that's
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Speaker 15: not the type of thing they feel like they would
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Speaker 15: have seen if Invictus Games were still under the Royal
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Speaker 15: Family umbrella, which I do agree with. I don't think
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Speaker 15: that the Royal Family would have approved a script like that.
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Speaker 15: They might have allowed the scenario, but maybe not some
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Speaker 15: of those words. And it's also kind of weird reader,
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Speaker 15: and I agree with you, it's not as bad as
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Speaker 15: it seems, but it's also kind of weird for him
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Speaker 15: to be at the same time that this drops in
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Speaker 15: Vancouver with kids promoting the Invictus Games. It just seems
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Speaker 15: like we're not on message to drop this video at
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Speaker 15: the same time that he's hanging around with a bunch
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Speaker 15: of kids trying to promote Invictus games to school children.
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Speaker 15: Maybe we should have spaced it out on the calendar
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Speaker 15: a few days or something.
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Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 3: Prince Harry is also reportedly heartbroken Kinzer over the fact
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Speaker 3: that his children could grow up without knowing their royal relatives.
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Speaker 3: This is according to royal expert Duncan, la come tell
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Speaker 3: me more about this story.
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Speaker 4: It must be sad. I mean it would be sad.
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Speaker 3: For anybody not to have your children in contact with
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Speaker 3: their cousins and aunties and uncles and grandfather Absolutely, and
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Speaker 3: I really value being yeah.
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Speaker 15: Right, And I really value Duncan's opinion because he spent
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Speaker 15: a significant amount of time with Prince Harry when he
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Speaker 15: was younger, and he's seen this evolution. In fact, he
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Speaker 15: says that this is not the man that I grew
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Speaker 15: up with. This is not the young man that I
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Speaker 15: used to travel with, you know, watch at Polo matches,
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Speaker 15: travel all over the world with. And he talks about
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Speaker 15: how the shift is Megan, and he also said in
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Speaker 15: this particular interview, Meghan's dreams have all come true, but
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Speaker 15: what about Harry's. He is technically now richer than he
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Speaker 15: was even more famous, but he's surrounded by celebrity hangars
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Speaker 15: on rather than a group of trusted people who are
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Speaker 15: really committed to seeing him flourish and see the best
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Speaker 15: things happen for him. And I think that that's an
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Speaker 15: incredibly important point that we are watching all of Megan
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Speaker 15: Markle's dreams come true, but what about Prince Harry's. We're
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Speaker 15: actually seeing him revert back to the work he did before,
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Speaker 15: and good for him. He's trying to find his place
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Speaker 15: in the world. But it seems kind of one sided.
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Speaker 15: The growth the dreams coming true certainly seems one saded.
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Speaker 3: We've been talking about all these celebrities who've pledged to
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Speaker 3: flee America if Trump wins.
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Speaker 4: Well, Trump has won and one convincingly.
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Speaker 3: And we do have a name who's apparently left the country.
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Speaker 4: Ellen de Genero's former TV star and her.
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Speaker 3: Wife Pusha de Rossi, have reportedly Kinzi moved to the
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Speaker 3: UK following Trump's reelection. What is this the reason they moved,
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Speaker 3: Because we had another story about three or four days
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Speaker 3: ago where a celebrity had moved, but then it turned
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Speaker 3: out that they had moved years earlier and had nothing
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Speaker 3: to do with Donald Trump.
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Speaker 4: This is a recent move.
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Speaker 15: This is not necessarily because of Trump, but I think
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Speaker 15: the shift they wanted the house previously, but I think
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Speaker 15: the shift.
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Speaker 4: Full time is because of Trump.
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Speaker 15: Remember that we actually discussed this Ellen's instagram where she
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Speaker 15: had that picture of Kamala and she was like, can't
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Speaker 15: wait for you to be our first female president and
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Speaker 15: all the negative reaction she receives. She's devastated about this
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Speaker 15: when and according to TMZ, she has moved two hours
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Speaker 15: outside of London. And all I have to say is
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Speaker 15: the second that those Londoners and people in the UK
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Speaker 15: realize that she is buddy buddy with Megan Markele, it's
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Speaker 15: going to go over like a you know, a turn
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Speaker 15: and a punch bowl. They're not big fans of Megan
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Speaker 15: markel over there, so she might want to keep that
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Speaker 15: on the low.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would do that.
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Speaker 3: And obviously her reputation isn't what it once was the
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Speaker 3: way her show ended and all those allegations that came
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Speaker 3: out from people who worked with her, So yeah, she's
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Speaker 3: no longer the Golden Girl, that's for sure. Kinsey Schofield,
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Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time tonight, And that's
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Speaker 3: all the time we've got folks. I'll see you tomorrow
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