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Interview with the Vampire (S1 - 2) with Assistant Costume Designer, Laura Brody · The Art of Costume Podcast

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Hello and welcome to the Art of Costume podcast.
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I'm Elizabeth Joy Glass. And I'm a hundred 150 year old,
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give or take, vampire that has a lot of beef with Lestat at the
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moment. Spencer Williams.
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You wish. Yeah, we all wish.
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I really do. We.
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All. Wish welcome everybody.
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If it was not evident from the title, we watched Interview with
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the Vampire, the AMC Plus TV series.
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Oh my gosh. Spencer's first time watching
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it. First time I am.
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This is all I've been talking about for weeks now.
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I'm. I'm very excited for this
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episode. It was such a good show.
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Like I say, I liked it desperately more than the movie.
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And I like the movie. Yeah, yeah.
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But this, this just gave me everything.
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But before we get into this series, we have a we have a lot.
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This is a jam packed episode. But before we get into it, I
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actually want to share a upcoming event with all of our
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costume nerds out there. I'm so excited to say that this
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year I'll be going to my first Lightbox Expo, which is in
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Pasadena, CA, which I'm stoked about because I am from Pasadena
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and I'm going to be doing a great panel with some good
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friends of mine and friends of the Pod podcast is going to be
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called From Games to TV Designing Costumes for The Last
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of Us Part 2 on Sunday, October 26th in room 2O7 at 11:45 AM.
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I'm going to be joined by some incredible artists, starting
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with costume designer Anne Foley, who you've all met on
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this podcast a couple Times Now, who is the costume designer for
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The Last of Us Season 2. We'll also be joined by
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illustrator, artist, concept artist extraordinaire Imogene
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Chaez, who is going to be on a panel with us, and Ashley
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Swadowski, who was very involved with the actual video game The
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Last of Us Part 2, who was able to bring a lot of insight into
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the creation of these characters and how it then inspired the
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costume design process in the live action TV series.
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So a very interesting conversation.
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So I hope you all join us. Passes are still available, so
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hit up the show notes or if you're on YouTube, check out, I
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guess those would also be called show notes and get your, get
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your passes now. I hope I'll meet you all at
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Lightbox Expo. It's going to be a lot of fun.
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How exciting. But of course, this event is
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taking place during the daytime, so therefore we will not be
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joined by any vampires that I know of.
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No, no vampires, unfortunately. Let's let's just get it to the
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show. There's just so much.
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You this really took you for a loop, this one.
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It it was so good and we're going to talk about both seasons
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one and two. This is of course before the
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exciting third season, the Vampire Descent, which will be
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coming sometime next year. So which actually is exciting to
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me. That means that this might not
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be our first and last conversation about this world.
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No, I don't think so. So yeah, such a great show.
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Brought me to tears when I finished it.
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Honestly, I I'll admit I had a little bit of a vulnerable
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moment watching this story come to a head.
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Not to like, judge anyone, but if you don't get teary at the
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end of this year, at the end of Season 2, you kind of missed the
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point. Yeah, yeah, 'cause you go
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through a lot getting to that end of that second season, which
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I binge through very quickly. All right, let's do a summary
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and talk about our showrunners. Interview of the Vampire on AMC
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was created for television by Roland Jones and of course,
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based on the novels by Anne Rice, who I believe was also
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executive producer on the series along with one of her family
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members as well. Yes, I think.
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The first she believe she passed after the first season.
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So she did pass after the first season, but still had some sort
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of involvement with the second season.
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And of course, the books are just the Bible to this series as
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well. We love Ann Rice, goth icon on
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this show. So let's get into the summary,
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which I had a lot of fun writing.
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Interview with the Vampire is a story about a vampire who tells
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his epic story of love, blood, and the perils of immortality.
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In the first season we hear tell of Louis beginning in early 20th
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century New Orleans. Louis story follows his
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relationship with the vampire Lestat and their foreign family,
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including teen fledgling Claudia.
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Many years later, after a tragic breakout, we shall say Louis and
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Claudia relocate to France after World War Two, meeting the
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vampire Armand and becoming enthralled by the local vampire
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coven, the Triatra. The vampires.
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But like most stories about ridiculously hot vampires,
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tensions rise and feelings get hurt, leading to a CVS style
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receipt of grievances that come to light in contemporary times
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and a blood curdling interview with journalist Daniel Malloy.
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And that is Interview with the Vampire.
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So I don't always read your summaries before we get here,
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and I did not read this one calling their tragic breakup the
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attempted murder of Lestat A tragic breakup is that's a way
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to put. It it was tragic and it did
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break up. You know what true and CVS style
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receipt of grievances is probably the best way to
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describe Louis in those interviews.
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Yeah, it's, it's pretty long. I mean, they keep Daniel Malloy
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basically hostage. They do.
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They keep him hostage. They keep him busy.
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Just like our costume designer Carol Cutshaw, who you will know
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her work from One Tree Hill, Rectify and in the Anne Rice
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universe, Mayfair which is. Which I hear is actually a quite
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exciting show. I haven't seen it, but the
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people I've talked to said it's lots of fun.
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Wild. I might have.
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It's a wild show. I might have to get into it
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because. You.
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Might have to, I'm feeling, I'll admit.
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You know, like when you finish bingeing a show and you feel a
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little empty after. That's how I'm feeling.
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Right now, season one will definitely will definitely fill
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that void. Well, we'll have to give it a
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go. Like I said, we have a packed
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episode. We're going to talk about
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seasons one and two and to breakdown first season 1.
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After this break, we had to call in some help.
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You would have met this person in a previous episode of ours.
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This season, actually, we talked about Star Wars A Phantom Menace
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with Jennifer May Nickel and JP Nickel, but we also had Laura
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Brody on that episode. And the Laura Brody, who is a
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dear friend of ours, was assistant costume designer on
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the first season of Interview at the Vampire.
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So we basically told Laura way back in May like, hey, yeah,
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we're doing hot vampire season, and it's not going to be the
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same without you. No, we couldn't.
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We couldn't have done it without her.
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That would have been wild. I would have felt really
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incomplete. So after this break, we are
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going to be joined by our friend Laura Brody to break down that
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first season. Now we're going to take another
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break. And after that break, Elizabeth
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and I are going to get into season 2 and try to play one
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costume rule them all. But let's see.
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How that works out? I'm I'm not feeling hopeful is
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what I'm saying. There's too much.
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There's just way too much in this show, so get into.
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Go get a cup of tea. A cup of blood if you're nasty.
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Some silky vampire PJ's. Get into your warm coffin and
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get ready for some some fun vampire talk.
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We'll be right back with it. Hi, I'm Dan who does all the
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Members of the Vampiric Cult of the Art of Costume podcast,
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Let's bring in today's guest. She is a costume designer who
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has worked on a variety of projects and what was one of one
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of two assistant costume designers on the first season of
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AM CS Interview with the Vampire series.
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Please welcome back our dearest friend, Laura Brody.
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Hey, Laura. Welcome.
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Hi, Spencer. Hi, Elizabeth.
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We're so glad to have you back. It's been a long, long time
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since The Phantom Menace, so. It sure has.
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So I'll admit we kind of planned our entire Vampire Hot Vampire
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Month around having you on a podcast after we did A Phantom
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Menace. I was like, I want Laura back.
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And we had already talked about Interview at the Vampire behind
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the scenes. So I was like, what time?
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Like the president, Elizabeth mentioned vampires, and I was
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like, well, all right, we gotta get Laura on the phone.
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So here you are. Thank you.
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Like I'm so honored. I'm so thrilled to be back with
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some of my favorite people talking about my favorite
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subject, which is vampires. Yeah, you are.
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You are the go to on everything vampire.
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But before we get into the series itself, I just want to
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start by talking about vampires and this huge world that Anne
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Rice created, which I'll admit I am now deeply, deeply obsessed
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with. And I'm probably going to be
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asking you a bunch of unrelated questions after the podcast.
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Let's get. Into it.
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Yeah, OK, so you love vampires. You and I have been to vampiric
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plays together. We saw Bram Stoker's Dracula
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together. You're just like the go to
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source on everything vampires. So I'm going to guess that Anne
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Rice's work has really been a big pillar and what makes you a
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creative and an artist. So can you just before we get
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into the show, tell us a little bit about your history with Anne
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Rice and the Vampire Chronicles series.
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Well, you're totally right, since you know me, that my love
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of vampires in film, in books, just the lore, the glamorous
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vampire lifestyle is such a part of who I am as a person.
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Like I've started reading Interview with the Vampire when
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I was in junior high school, when I started learning about
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what Goths were from the new Romantic scene, and I loved it.
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I was like, that's me. I want that life.
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That's who I'm, that's who I am. And I've read almost all of the
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Anne Rice books. I can't, I can't get enough of
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what she does. And I will definitely say
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another like very, very critical experience to me was watching
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the Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula in the theater
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when I was in high school. Like that.
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Just that stuck with me. It's it's just very core to who
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you are. And I know, I mean, since then
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you've become a lover of New Orleans, which is very much
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integral. Today's conversation.
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You've been to Romania. I mean, it's just so much of,
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you know, what we're talking about today is just so crucial
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to who you are. Yeah, so you got to be one of
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the assistant costume designers on Interview with the Vampire,
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which must have been just such a dream come true for you.
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You couldn't be more right. It was an absolute dream job.
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I've never been more excited to go the extra mile every day at
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work. Like read every script, every
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script version, like every call sheet, every production meeting.
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I was like 2 minutes early on the zoom.
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Just like though, how are we, how are we going to shoot this?
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What are what are we doing? What are we doing now?
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Let's talk. About like, let's talk about
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Louis Lestat again. So I mean, tell us about the
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moment when you found out. I mean, how, how did this
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happen? You must have almost passed
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away. I did almost pass away,
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partially because I was so tired from working on Obi Wan Kenobi.
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And I was recommended by one of my fellow costumers in the
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background department, Augusta, to care to Carol, the costume
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designer. And I didn't really know what
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she was recommending me for, but she just said you have to do it.
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She was like, it's a period show.
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I was like I. I'm.
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Really more of a like present future person, except for this.
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She's like thrust me, you have to do it.
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I was like there's one exception and this is anything Victorian,
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Edwardian or like vampire related.
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So I think I broke out in a cold squad.
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I was like, I was like AI was a pick me girl.
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Sometimes you can't do it. So that led you to be an
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assistant costume designer on this series?
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First, I'll just say I loved it. It was incredible.
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And there's just so many costumes to talk about.
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I almost don't even know where to start with the show.
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But so let's just set the scene a little bit.
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So you were assistant costume designer on Season 1, one of
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two, I believe. So while you weren't on location
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in New Orleans, you had a huge role in Los Angeles.
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Because like we said, there is a couple of costumes in this show
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and we're not just talking about Louis Lestat and Claudia.
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I mean, there is a million into a costume.
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So can you walk us through what this process looked like for
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you? Well, you're totally right.
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It was not just Louis Lestat and Claudia and Daniel Malloy and
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Armand. It was the whole cast of
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characters. There were so many supporting
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characters that were in each episode that were like
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throughout Season 1 and it it's like a Sprint and a marathon at
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the same time. Quite a few of these characters
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also become, shall we say, food for our favorite vampires.
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So I mean, tell us a little bit about the multiples game and how
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many costumes you think. I mean, were you shocked by the
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amount of people that were constantly turning into Lestat's
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meal every day? That must have been very mind
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boggling. Absolutely.
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So to both of those questions, like the logistics of the volume
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of costumes to come from Los Angeles to get to New Orleans,
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that was like a whole bear in itself.
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And we had so many costumers just pulling, pulling, pulling,
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like shipping, shipping, shipping every single day to get
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those costumes to New Orleans on time and then the multiples so.
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I I'm I'm getting a headache already just thinking about it.
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So like every what, every time you get a new script and you get
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the breakdown from the supervisor and like who's doing
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what, what's the action? And it's always Louie, Lestat or
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Claudia. Like who are they going to kill
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this episode and how are they going to?
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How are they going to kill them? He like please tell me they're
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wearing bibs in this episode. I think there was, I think there
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was a bib initially there was supposed to be like a crawfish
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boil, but it turned into a pig roast.
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That was like the wedding reception.
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Nobody, thankfully nobody died. But I do think that's where
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Lestat was like being real shady with Louie's mom.
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But that's one of my favorite moments.
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Honestly, she had it coming. I'm just going to put that on
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the record. I think they.
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Did I think that conversation was like, well, but yeah, that
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was really, that was a logistical challenge, getting
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all the multiples. And it would be Louis and Lestat
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or Claudia would need multiples and their victim needed
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multiples. Oh.
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Gosh, and it was like period reproduction.
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I turned over every bolt of period fabric in Los Angeles
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like a few times trying to make this happen.
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So how the process worked with multiples would be we would
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source vintage costumes from costume houses in Los Angeles,
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ship them to New Orleans. They would be fit on the actors.
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They would select something that was the right style and then
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ship it back to me in Los Angeles where I would work with
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a team to select fabric and trim to make the multiples and then
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ship those like 3/4, let's say 7/8 of the way finish, ship them
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back to New Orleans and have the final fittings done in person.
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And a couple of the actors that were Los Angeles locals actually
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fit. And all the all the women's was
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taken care of by Oksana Shore and and the actual the team in
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person. They would a huge team of made
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to order costumers like Cutter fitters, Ager Dyers.
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So many people in this department doing like their very
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best work. Yeah, especially the Ager dyers.
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I bet they had with all the blood.
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That must have been such a task for them.
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It was such a task, but it was absolutely a labor of love.
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I've become really close friends with Sebastian Ray, who was one
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of the Ager Dyers, and I know we talked about this before.
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We just found out that the head ager Dyer Julie passed away very
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recently so. Yeah.
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And which we're very sorry to hear about that.
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And of course also, so we've talked about a podcast quite a
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bit, Oxana Shore as well too. So obviously incredible talents.
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Yeah. She did such magnificent work
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like Louis sister's wedding dress, Louise sister's
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bridesmaids like Claudia. All she did is such a gorgeous
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job on all of those women's costumes.
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Yeah, it's like I said with there is so many costumes to
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talk about on this show, I just couldn't imagine even trying to
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approach it without you here. But let's maybe get into some of
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our favorite characters. Let's get into probably my
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favorite character. Mine too.
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Lestat the Vampire Lestat the Vampire Lestat played by Sam
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Reed who is just like I think in the series.
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Maybe someone can argue with me. The hottest and most horrifying
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character maybe in the series. Yeah, maybe I'm a Lestat Stan.
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I'm just going to say it. Yeah.
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I'm a Lestat Stan too, like I was going into it, but I it just
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took it my like love of Lestat to the next level.
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From the very, very first photo of his first screen test, I've
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like broke out in a cold sweat. His.
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Performance was so good. I was just like on my chair.
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Yeah, it's it's from beginning to end.
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I think it's an incredible performance and I just love that
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Lestat is so unapologetically himself.
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Obviously he's been around for a while, so he knows himself very
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well, but from the moment we meet him to the very.
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Unfortunate breakup at the end of the season.
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He his costumes are over the top in the best way.
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He never lets go of the Lestat style I would say.
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I mean, how did you interpret his character, Laura?
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He's a he's a dandy. Yeah, he's a dandy.
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I think there was some David Bowie influence into just how he
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how he presented himself, but he he was like a Peacock if
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menswear. That's, I mean that's the best
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way to put it I would think. But then we have probably
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another well, I was going to say my other favorite character, but
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there's like 3 choices to pick one from.
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So. But Louis de Pontelac, played by
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Jacob Anderson, who I'm so excited to see in this after
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being such a big fan in Game of Thrones.
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I love Louise character and his costumes because to me, I just
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you could really see like the evolution of this character
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through all the years, especially I mean with him, you
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really get to see the beginning of his transformation to
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contemporary times. I'm just going to point out that
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one of my favorite costumes from when he is in the kind of the
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early stages of his newfound of vampirism.
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So when he visits his mom and sister and he shows up in this
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all red suit and red sunglasses, that's just such a wicked
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costume. I could not I've I was not
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shocked that they were like you cannot be here because he looks
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evil as fuck. You look so evil and so sexy and
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that that costume is actually like if fuchsia purple.
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It's very intentionally like a 1920s jazz suit era suit.
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And he we did do that, this made to order and he couldn't look
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any better. So I mean with Louis in terms of
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like his evolution in terms of costume, but this is someone who
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is starting from being this club owner kind of really in control
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of the streets of New Orleans going all the way to kind of a.
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Pimp. That's very polite.
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If you Spencer, Yeah. Thank you for understanding but
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not dancing around. You're so right That's he's a
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pimp up it to. He kind of like loses, I would
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say, especially as things are definitely going South between
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him and Lestat and Claudia. He really kind of loses his lust
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for this life that he's created a little bit.
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Do you feel like that plays out in his costumes?
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I definitely will say you can see that Louis is falling victim
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to Lestat as more of an emotional vampire than a
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physical vampire and you do see that towards like they do start
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to look a little disheveled. Around the house they do.
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And I think it's just like such a change in circumstances for
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him too, because he goes from being like a very well respected
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businessman of the community as far as he can be.
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So losing a lot of that. And I think in losing that, he's
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kind of like, OK, well, like then who am I outside of like
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this relationship that I'm in, that is also like, maybe not the
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best for me in this moment. Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to
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put it. Claudia, who I think I loved
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just from the sheer range she has in her costumes, from being
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turned as a 14 year old in 1917 to like having to grow up
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mentally and wanting to have a more mature wardrobe but being
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stuck in this very young body. I I thought her wardrobe was
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beautiful start to finish and really showed that change as the
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years went on. I thought the fits were very
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interesting, especially like when she is 14, it's very much
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played up in the looser fits how she how much younger she is.
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It really shows her mentally aging without her saying
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anything. Well, it was a really delicate
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tightrope to walk because Bailey Bass is not 14 and she does not
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have 14 year old's body. So we had to work our magic with
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fit to make her look the way she needed to look to portray the
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character. And a lot of that was just
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making things loose and baggy and make and really making it
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look intentional, like she like she's dressing up and for
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herself and she's playing dress up like it's real and it's
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artificial at the same time. I one thing I love about the
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show too, that like fun little moments where you kind of
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understand, like when time is kind of evolving, because I love
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how you see Claudia especially kind of move into the 1920s.
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And it's not, it's not very obvious at first, but you just
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kind of see slowly how time in this show kind of really
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correlate. The costumes are like the
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biggest. Indicator.
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Indicator for the passage of time.
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That's very true. Costumes always are able to do
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that. Like the buildings don't change
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as much. They'll change a little bit, but
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the costumes can change so quickly.
25:21
I do want to say one of my most, like, special memorable costume
25:28
moments in the costume houses was pulling for Claudia.
25:33
There's a scene where she goes shopping for her coffin and she
25:37
needs like a special little girl dress.
25:40
Yeah, like 2 days that I was doing that.
25:44
I felt like I was having an out of body experience because the
25:47
scene is so crucial to the plot and character development.
25:52
Yeah, you you were looking for one of the first major dresses
25:56
worn by the vampire Claudia. I mean, I can't even imagine if
26:00
if I had known you back then, I probably would have been texting
26:03
you. Or how do you feel right now?
26:06
I. Still reflect about a lot of the
26:08
times that I spent working on Interview with the Vampire.
26:11
Like this was just this surreal special ones in a lifetime
26:16
experience that I was not able to articulate to anybody at the
26:19
time. Because as you guys know really
26:22
well, this was the first in the like in the Ann Rice immortal
26:30
universe. This was the very, very first
26:32
property. People who are not Ann Rice
26:34
superfans like myself were not really aware that this show was
26:38
in production. And I imagine too, it's, I mean,
26:41
it's also such a huge responsibility too.
26:43
I imagine lots of people would be a little terrified of like,
26:47
what's this going to look like? This could go really wrong, but
26:50
it could also go really right, which I, I think is what
26:53
happened. But it's such a beloved series
26:55
as well, too. I mean, we talked about the the
26:58
film that a couple seasons ago as well too.
27:01
And there was such a huge following for that as well.
27:03
So I really do want to applaud everyone that worked on the show
27:06
because it was executed quite perfectly with all the pressure
27:12
that came with it. We gave every scene 110%.
27:18
You can tell. Last but not least, in this
27:21
season we have Daniel Malloy, who is just everyone's favorite
27:29
investigative journalist I think.
27:33
Definitely wasn't quite expecting what we got from him
27:39
and I love his just like he has such a dad look about him that I
27:42
really like. But also it's like so
27:44
interesting too that you get to see, you know, Louis and the
27:48
vampire Armand too. Do you guys feel like they're
27:51
talk about the challenge a little bit of kind of retaining
27:54
what makes Louis and Armand as well with Daniel Malloy, but
27:59
kind of tracking that through these decades too?
28:02
If you still have, it has to still feel like Louis and Armand
28:05
when you meet them in this interview as well.
28:08
Just very true. What a lot of things about the
28:11
character development portion of costumes is that it's it's a
28:14
feeling, it's how does that person feel?
28:17
How does perceiving that person make you feel?
28:20
How do they want to make you feel from how they're dressed?
28:24
And there's always a through line through the character of
28:28
just, they're like essential person and the type of choices
28:32
that they're going to make and that doesn't change over the
28:34
course of time. To Malloy also, I do love that
28:38
how he just you get to see little moments of him in the 70s
28:44
in San Francisco as well. And I love they kind of do get
28:47
to see that through line with him too as like this journalist
28:49
in Dubai as well too. He's still kind of has like a
28:52
cool punk rock. I was kind of thinking like
28:56
Anthony Bourdain a little bit too, Like, I don't know, there's
28:59
like, that was our. Inspiration.
29:01
We were like, he's giving Anthony Bourdain.
29:04
Oh really? That's so funny.
29:05
I love that. Absolutely.
29:09
That's a good one. And one thing that you told me,
29:11
which I was, it didn't dawn to me until you said it, but we
29:15
really get a master class and what vampiric pajamas look like
29:20
on the show. I mean, it's, it's a whole
29:23
conversation about what you wear to your coffin, which we've
29:25
never had before, I mean. Well.
29:28
Tell us about the vampire pajama game.
29:33
That was such a crucial part of the overall costuming was like
29:38
formal wear, like a black tie, mandatory attire and pajamas.
29:43
It was like a huge, huge chunk of the costumes that we had to
29:47
source and get on the screen. I think I handled every single
29:53
pair of pajamas from 1900 to 1940 in the city of Los Angeles
29:59
because it's just like scene after scene after scene.
30:03
We called it Coffin Talk. Like in our production meetings.
30:08
They'd be like, OK, they flip the page and they're like, all
30:10
right. Now we're moving on to like,
30:12
another Coffin Talk with Louis Lestat.
30:15
I thought that set was beautiful.
30:17
They're like Coffin Room. So gorgeous.
30:21
Oh yeah, it's it's a little inspiring.
30:24
Remember when the Nosferatu replica coffins were going
30:27
around a little bit not too long ago?
30:28
Yeah. Unforgivable.
30:30
Yeah, so I kind of was like, that's how I imagined
30:34
transforming my bedroom if I got a hold of the $20,000 coffin
30:37
and. Should also have one of those
30:38
like turn walls. Yeah, Claudia and Claudia had,
30:42
yes. I mean, I have never wanted to
30:45
be in bed so much. So then watching an interview at
30:48
the vampire they just made looking like rest looked good
30:53
with them. I'm jealous.
30:54
Oh, it sure did. And they definitely like between
30:56
Lou and Lestad, they wore their pyjamas a little differently.
31:00
So that was interesting that they still had personality and
31:03
character in their pyjamas. Absolutely.
31:06
And. Talking about personality, we
31:10
get to see a lot of personality in this last episode with Mardi
31:16
Gras and the ball, and this is just so gorgeous.
31:22
I especially love Lestat's I. Mean he's peacocking pretty
31:26
hard. That he is.
31:31
Like that look, for some reason I thought he wore that like the
31:35
whole episode. And then when I rewatched it
31:37
this time, I was like, Oh no, he has that fantastic outfit for
31:40
just like a couple minutes, but it's so detailed and beautiful.
31:45
Thank you. This is a big episode.
31:46
When I see the picture, he really looks like Lucy in her
31:51
burial costume. Yeah, Graham Stoker's, which she
31:55
like, rises from the brave and eats the baby.
31:57
That's it. That is it.
31:59
Yeah, that just clicked. God, that's such a good one.
32:03
But then, like, you have the ball.
32:04
And then, like you said, there's like a million and two tuxedos
32:07
as well, too. And then, of course, those
32:10
tuxedos get a little bloodied up in the end as well, too.
32:13
I mean, what can you tell us about this massive episode?
32:16
That was like multiple city. We just had to make so many of
32:22
these costumes. I literally felt like I was in a
32:24
vintage tuxedo factory. I, I see in your photos, there's
32:30
the twins. And so we had those guys with
32:33
like a multiples of matching tuxedos.
32:36
We had a few of the other guys that needed to also have these
32:40
vintage tuxedos that were similar but not the same.
32:43
It was a lot of it was a lot. That's wild.
32:49
And also just like all the masks.
32:51
I was like that, like that would have driven me a little crazy to
32:55
be like, okay, like what goes with what?
32:57
Who has like which mask? Yeah, I mean, it's a huge shout
33:02
out to the entire crew. This must have been a herculean
33:05
effort by everyone involved, as you know.
33:09
It most certainly was. And this is where having a crew
33:14
from New Orleans, where they know this, they have this in
33:16
their blood, they know how to do this in the ways that US
33:20
Californians don't really know. Like we can research it, but
33:24
they just feel it. Yeah, we could do a we hope
33:27
ride, but no one's going to do New Orleans Mardi Gras like New
33:30
Orleans. I, I do remember when we were
33:34
shooting, we were shooting during Mardi Gras and the
33:38
production went down for like 3 days.
33:41
And you always get the maps like for, to the location from
33:45
production. And there'd be maps with like
33:47
these very elaborate instructions of like how to
33:49
drive around the French Quarter to get to set.
33:53
Oh gosh. Oh.
33:55
My gosh, that's wild. It was.
33:57
It was wild. So I'll admit now that we are,
34:02
you know, we've just gone through Season 1 of Interview of
34:05
the Vampire. And of course, Season 2 is
34:07
great, which Elizabeth and I are going to talk about some more
34:09
soon. But now I'm just like Laura.
34:11
I'm just deeply obsessed with the lore of this world that
34:14
android's created. I mean, we have the Vampire
34:18
Lestat coming out in 2026. We have Talamasca, the secret
34:22
order which is dropping I believe any day now.
34:24
We also. Believe it comes out around
34:26
Halloween. Yeah, and the Mayfair Witches is
34:29
already out there. I mean, just as a fan, what are
34:31
you most excited to see? Because obviously this is not
34:34
going to be the last time you were talking with us about, you
34:37
know, this crazy world. What?
34:38
What are you excited to see? Without, I guess, spoiling it
34:41
too hard for people, AKA me. But Elizabeth probably knows.
34:45
About the continuation of the Anne Rice Immortal Universe on
34:49
AMC Plus. I'm just excited that they're
34:53
doing it like I've been. I've been watching this since it
34:56
must have been 2020. When 2019 when they purchased
35:01
the rights to Anne Rice's entire catalog.
35:04
I'm so excited about it and I have to say the two that are
35:08
coming up, which would be the like Queen of the damned era,
35:12
Vampire Lestat and the Talamasca.
35:15
I don't know what I'm more excited for.
35:17
I'm I'm if I had to choose it would be the Vampire Lestat
35:22
because that's basically the coolest thing ever.
35:25
But I am really intrigued by the Talamasca series.
35:28
They got into that in the movie of Queen of the Dam.
35:30
They touch on it in Mayfair Witches and I just want to know
35:34
all the secrets of the supernatural world.
35:39
They, they touch on it a little bit too in Season 2 toward the
35:41
end also. So I, I, I kept hearing it come
35:44
up and I was like, Laura told me about this.
35:46
I'm very invested in whatever's happening here, which I don't
35:49
understand. That was one of the things I
35:51
caught on this second watch through 'cause I, I, I've seen
35:54
both seasons of Mayfair Witches now.
35:56
So I was like, oh, this makes more sense to me.
36:00
And I'm just very excited to see Queen of the Damned pull, you
36:03
know, come to life again once. I don't know how it's going to
36:07
look or how it's going to happen, but I'm just excited to
36:09
get into that lore also too, because I know let's stop
36:12
mentioned Akasha a little bit in the second season.
36:15
Just one word. And I was like, oh, that sounds
36:17
good. This is like a really, really
36:20
big deal. Like just the vampire list out,
36:25
the rock star Akasha and then the all the ancient vampires.
36:31
This is really deep into the foundational lore of this world
36:35
and I can't wait. Yeah, I'm right there with you.
36:40
In the meantime though, Spencer has some catching up to do on a
36:48
another vampire show I think you are a fan of as well as I am,
36:54
True Blood. What are your thoughts on True
36:58
Blood and what Spencer and our audience can expect when we talk
37:03
about True Blood in a couple weeks?
37:05
I'm two seasons and I could already tell you it's been a
37:07
wild ride for me. Yeah, that's pretty.
37:11
It is a It is a wild ride. It's weird.
37:15
It's gritty. It's sexy.
37:17
We all love, like, a look into this seamy underbelly of the
37:23
South. Like, it's just hot.
37:27
It's just hot. Yeah.
37:29
Like, it's hot there. And from a costume perspective,
37:34
Lafayette. Yes, yeah, yes.
37:37
I do know so far that has been a major sticking point for me.
37:41
Or just seeing Alexander Skarsgard in any of his scenes
37:44
but you. Know Alexander Skarsgard, just
37:46
period. Yeah, well, Laura, this has been
37:51
so much fun. Thank you for coming to talk
37:54
with us about your experience on Interview with the Vampire.
37:58
It's it just made this so much more exciting to watch it and
38:01
see some of your work on the big screen along with everyone who
38:04
worked on the show in the first season and going into the second
38:07
season as well. It was such a fun show and I'm
38:11
just so thankful that we got to talk to you about it.
38:13
I hope you'll come back and talk with us about anything else
38:16
vampire related or spooky in the future.
38:19
It's such a pleasure, I would totally love to and I hope you
38:23
guys enjoy the rest of spooky season.
38:27
We will. It's our favorite time of the
38:29
year and I think we're looking for ways to extend it into
38:32
November at this point, so. You can't.
38:36
Yeah, well, you know, we make the rules, so you make the.
38:38
Rules no make it you know you can watch the Empire movies
38:41
every single day. That's that's what it's felt
38:44
like for the past three months, honestly.
38:49
Laura, thank you so much for joining us.
38:50
It's been such a joy. We can't.
38:52
I can't wait for some more coffin talk coming up soon.
38:54
Yeah. Thanks.
39:01
Spencer, now that we know everything we need to know about
39:04
Season 1, Are you ready to jump into Season 2?
39:07
I I'm ready. I have a lot of thoughts before
39:10
we even start taping today. Elizabeth and I went and did
39:13
lunch and I already unloaded all these thoughts just so I don't
39:17
actually combust into flames this episode like.
39:20
Shaking. You were like, I need to talk
39:22
about this to somebody. It's so good.
39:26
So I just finished it last night too, before our before the
39:29
taping of this episode. So and thank you to Laura Brody
39:34
for being on this episode with us and breaking down season one.
39:37
It was like I said, such a feat to make that first episode
39:42
between New Orleans and Los Angeles and all these costumes.
39:46
And I can't imagine the the challenge of all these costumes
39:50
covered in blood as well too. It's it was, it was a journey,
39:55
I'm sure. But so now I'm excited to talk
39:58
about season 2, though, which was even more fun.
40:00
It just, it just kept going and. We have a quote from Carol about
40:07
the change between Seasons 1 and 2, Carol said.
40:13
It was such a drastic change going into Season 2.
40:18
We run from the height of glamour, which we last saw
40:22
during the Mardi Gras party, to the polar opposite in the
40:26
premiere. When you look at Louis and
40:29
Claudia in their shirling coats in Romania and the amount of mud
40:35
and blood on them, those looks are built for surviving and
40:40
searching and starting over, and that's really where they are at
40:46
the beginning. That first episode was tough.
40:48
I mean, they really do. I mean, they've been on the run
40:52
during World War 2 and I, I thought actually it was very it
40:55
was a beautiful episode for them to really show like the after
40:59
effects of what war did you know to to Europe essentially and how
41:04
they're trying to survive. And I did think that's such an
41:06
interesting conversation of like, how would these two
41:09
vampires get through that as well too?
41:11
I know it's it's fictional, but to me it felt very real and
41:14
important for me to understand and especially.
41:18
Because like you realize they really did leave everything
41:21
behind in New Orleans. Like cuz I mean not that it was
41:25
easy but if like Louis still had access to his money like it
41:30
would have been a little easier but they really just dropped
41:34
everything and went. They're cobbling together their
41:37
outfits at this point. You could tell.
41:38
I mean, they're probably pulling off dead people or people they
41:42
fed on or. They're probably just going into
41:44
abandoned homes and stealing whatever they want.
41:47
Which was like, like Carol Kutchel said in that quote, was
41:51
probably very jarring at 1st and I'm sure they're very excited to
41:55
get back get get to France. Absolutely.
41:58
Especially Louis, because he is very much used to looking his
42:06
best, Carol said of Louie in Season 1 to TV Guide.
42:12
Louie's wardrobe is very aspirational and it was also a
42:18
matter of survival. He could show no less than
42:21
perfection in order to survive in the world that he was in and
42:26
flipping to Season 2, she said. It's very much a different modus
42:32
of survival and one of the ways that he survived surviving is by
42:38
not standing out. But even in his blue collar
42:43
looks, he still has that same gentleman, can't help himself
42:52
but be impeccable in them. Because of that survival
42:57
instinct and the gentlemanliness from the time when none of these
43:03
people were alive, He's still carrying it with him.
43:06
And that's so true. I love, I actually love that
43:09
quote a lot. It's like when you meet him in
43:12
that first season, he is very aspirational.
43:14
And as Laura said, he's a pimp and he's trying to like really
43:17
dress the part, so dressing for the job you want.
43:20
And that was his way of survival and he took care of himself and
43:24
his family in that way. And as he goes into a vampirism
43:27
it changes a little bit, but still he's still trying to be a
43:29
high member of society. But then when we get to Paris,
43:33
he's trying to blend in. He really doesn't want to draw
43:36
the attention. But Louis will still never lose
43:39
that like tailored gentleman. Look about him though.
43:42
He absolutely won't. And it's it's so strange.
43:45
There's another quote I didn't put here, but she kind of talks
43:48
about how, like, in Paris, he's trying to find himself because
43:51
in New Orleans, he's trying to be somebody in a place that
43:55
really doesn't want him, but he's kind of tolerated.
43:59
And in France, he can just for the first time be himself.
44:04
Like, look for himself, which he does a lot through his
44:07
photography. But he is so polished because
44:12
that's just who he is. Yeah, he is polished and
44:15
disciplined. And so, Spencer, this show is
44:20
like the perfect example of, like, aspirations for a toxic
44:27
relationship, whether it's Louie and Lestat or Louie and her mom.
44:35
Like if you're gonna be in a toxic relationship, it might as
44:39
well be one of these two. Yeah, I'll admit, like, even we
44:44
were talking to Laura behind the scenes after we wrapped, and she
44:47
was like, Lestat's a villain. And to me, though, I was like,
44:51
yeah, but I still like him. And I felt I felt the same way
44:55
about Armand. I'm like, I know this is bad for
44:57
me, but why do I want all of it? And.
45:01
I think like one of the things that kind of like attracts Louis
45:06
to Armand is he kind of has that same like gentlemanliness.
45:10
But Carol said of Armand. He is the highest predator on
45:17
the food chain at this point. Yeah, that's fair.
45:21
Which is so true, she says. One of the things about our mind
45:25
is he is so ancient and so powerful that he always presents
45:30
himself as very open because he really doesn't see anyone as a
45:37
threat. And coming into Season 2, he is
45:41
having to show Daniel Malloy that he's in charge, being a
45:47
little bit more crisp and authoritative.
45:49
He's coming back in and asserting himself as actually
45:53
running the show. He wants to show that he's in
45:56
control and that they're vying for control of this interview.
46:01
Yeah, I think Armand was such an interesting case study in
46:05
costume design. Honestly, I had a lot of fun
46:07
with him. So let's let's go to like Paris
46:10
first. I felt like.
46:11
He looks so cool. Well, first of all, Armand
46:14
always looks good. There's never even when he's
46:17
like having his, his mental breakdown with with the scenes
46:21
with, you know, early days Daniel Malloy, he still looked
46:24
put together always. Oh yeah, always.
46:27
And I'm like Louis, you just, you love men who are cool
46:30
looking. Oh yeah, for sure.
46:32
Because like, especially like that first night when they go on
46:35
the hunt, he's got like his relaxed pants with like the open
46:40
duster jacket, the open like just bright orange vest and then
46:47
the turtleneck. And I'm like, Sir.
46:49
But then when he's in the theatre, though, he's also like,
46:52
very approachable and like he gives like kind of soft and.
46:56
Always just a little laid back. A little laid back because he,
46:59
you know, he really is kind of like the director or the kind of
47:03
the one who's keeping this these wild, wild shows at the theatre,
47:08
the vampire. So like there's like a artistic
47:12
artist aspect of him, like someone who really like takes a
47:15
step back is more focused on art and not like their actual own,
47:18
their look at the same time. So it's it's understandable why
47:21
Louis is able to fall for him because there's something about
47:24
him that just feels so honest. But then when you cut to like
47:28
modern times and you see our mom come in, there's that one scene
47:31
where he comes back from dinner, dinner and he has like the Karl
47:35
Lagerfeld glasses on and the Matrix like duster coat.
47:41
And you're like, someone here is not like the other.
47:45
And I'm scared of this guy. So I hate those glasses, but
47:52
watching Assad Zaman walk in as Armand?
47:57
Yeah. In those glasses with that
47:59
jacket, I was like, this one is one of the coolest things I've
48:02
ever seen. It was, it was definitely one of
48:04
the coolest costumes. And I, I, I understood Daniel
48:09
Malloy's kind of like high blood pressure.
48:11
Honestly, at that point, he's like, something here is not
48:13
right. It takes a few episodes to
48:15
figure it out, but something is not right.
48:18
And Armand is really kind of leaving some clues here in.
48:21
She is, but especially because like, like most of the time in
48:24
their apartment, he's in these like, relaxed sweaters, like tan
48:29
trousers, loafers. Like he really, he's a predator
48:33
that like, lures you in, which is what makes him so much
48:37
scarier, which he says about him being open.
48:40
It's like he's just luring you into a false sense of security,
48:45
which thankfully, Claudia doesn't fall for.
48:47
Yeah, Claudia. Claudia doesn't fall for
48:49
anything in both seasons. Before we leave our mom, I just
48:53
want to say he's like my new wardrobe goals.
48:57
I guess I don't. Know what?
48:58
Good. Choice.
48:59
Yeah, good choice. I want to be our man.
49:02
Let's talk about Claudia. In season 2, we had a new
49:05
actress, Delaney Hills, who played Claudia.
49:08
Yeah, she was amazing. I.
49:09
Thought both Claudia's did incredible for different
49:11
reasons, yeah. And I don't know, I felt like
49:14
each Claudia actress was like right for the season that they
49:18
did, actually, honestly. I think so, too.
49:20
And the way they handle it, like I very much thought because I
49:24
watched the original season when it premiered, I watched Season 2
49:27
when it premiered. And when I started Season 2, I
49:30
didn't even realize at first that, you know, it was a
49:33
different actress. And then I was like, oh, wow.
49:37
Like, I was like, I don't know if it's just been so long since
49:39
I saw Season 1, but the way, you know, Delaney kind of plays off,
49:48
you know, the performance in Season 1, but also like, you
49:51
know, Season 2, she's really maturing as an adult.
49:54
Yeah, she's seen some things. She saw all said breakup.
49:57
We were talking. About so much, but like it's
50:00
such a seamless transition between the two.
50:02
They really handled it beautifully.
50:05
And also Carol handles her costumes and this transition
50:11
beautifully, saying Claudia has gone through so much emotional
50:17
maturing and she's gone through so much trauma and survival and
50:21
loss and her lived experience has far outgrown her physical.
50:27
And she has gone through learning lessons of how to hide
50:30
herself in her lived experience. She's a young woman.
50:34
She's really trying to try that on.
50:38
She's trying to live that. And when she first shows up at
50:41
the theater, when she finds Madeleine, she feels like she's
50:48
being seen as a woman for the first time.
50:51
That's her being seen and taken seriously.
50:55
When she walks into that theater in her lavender dress, it's
51:00
really like she's the brightest flower in the room.
51:03
It's kind of the first time she's been able to step out and
51:07
have her exterior mirror her lived experience or her
51:14
interior, which I kind of feel like her visit, her first visit
51:20
to the theater is almost like her coming out.
51:24
Yeah, it it feels like, I mean the whole it starts feeling like
51:27
her debut, like we talk about in like the Gilded Age or Bridge.
51:31
Absolutely. And I really do love her
51:34
costumes because it it's true, like she while she's still in
51:37
the body of a 14 year old, she feels like she's really grown up
51:41
and she's, she's seen Louis and Lestat and kind of like botch
51:45
what, what their lives could be. And she just, she shows up with
51:51
so much experience. And I, I love that she really
51:54
takes to like the Parisian culture as well too.
51:57
She digs right into it. I love all of her hats, the
52:01
gloves of course, and just like these very French fits and her
52:05
blouses. Which is why I was so devastated
52:09
when they finally, when the theater put her into that young
52:13
girl dress again. That felt like such a slap in
52:16
the face. Just even as a viewer, I was
52:18
like, come on, that was so mean. It's it's horrible, but out in
52:24
Paris she really just like takes charge of her own life and
52:31
really reflects like that 1940s like French utilitarianness
52:39
because they were. Post war.
52:41
Post war, they were still starving.
52:43
There was so much rationing going on, like they were not
52:48
back to being the height of fashion yet.
52:50
They were really in this recovery period and she just
52:54
digs in and Carol talks about how, you know, like French women
52:59
were really like being innovative and taking what they
53:03
could to make themselves look incredible.
53:07
And she just really feeds into that, I think.
53:10
And cuz she just looks, she looks incredible from start to
53:13
finish of her time in Paris. And I love we we had a lunch day
53:17
at In and Out before this recording.
53:19
And I love something that you said to me too, about how at
53:23
first you, you know, we've, we've talked about the movie and
53:27
I was with Kirsten Dunst and she was like literally a child and
53:31
that she's a baby. And they didn't do that for the
53:34
series, but I, I, I really like that choice.
53:36
So that have, you know, Bailey Bass and Delaney Hills who are
53:40
not children, But that's because like in a Series A, a child
53:46
would be aging, which is totally not what this show's about.
53:51
And so like having this young woman who's able to be Claudia,
53:56
she's able to show the transformation, the evolution of
53:59
this character through costume, which I think is just, it just
54:02
speaks to the power of costume design and storytelling,
54:06
honestly. I think he's my least favorite
54:11
vampire. Elizabeth was talking about
54:14
Santiago, played by Ben Daniels, who at first I was like totally
54:18
into. I was like, oh, you would be,
54:20
this is a cool guy. I love the very artsy kind of
54:23
cabaret feel of this character. And turns out I I quite hate him
54:30
a lot. And I could not have rooted for
54:32
a character's death harder in the end.
54:35
Yeah, I was so happy when he died, Carol says of Santiago.
54:44
There was this incredible image of Peter O'Toole backstage, just
54:50
in his suspenders and undershirt, and he's got this
54:55
martini and a cigarette in one hand.
55:00
It was just so gorgeous. And that really felt like
55:03
Santiago to me, which I'm like, even in this lineup, I'm like, I
55:07
have to remind myself that this image is not Ben Daniel.
55:13
It is. Peter O'Toole, like, it really
55:16
looks like, you know, Ben Daniels just like roughed up his
55:20
hair and like slouched in a chair for a second.
55:23
I love it. It's, I feel like of all the
55:26
characters, I mean, really with the the theater coven
55:29
altogether, this is where the costume designer and the crew
55:32
really got to play in terms of like reference.
55:35
I'm thinking like, you know, Cabaret, Moulin Rouge, just
55:40
French theater in general. And then, you know, the this new
55:45
movement of like technology in cinema that's kind of happening
55:49
at this moment as well too. But then also they kind of play
55:52
with like the vampire trope a little bit too, with like
55:55
especially Santiago's, like capes and whatnot.
55:58
Yeah, a little bit like Dracula a little bit.
56:02
They really get to lean into it. So I just think just the theater
56:05
in general, there is a lot of fun costumes, except for the
56:09
little girl dress, which I still have a lot of beef with.
56:14
Baby Lou, I hated this God. There's some scenes in this show
56:22
where it felt like we were in trouble or something.
56:24
We were being punished and I was like, I didn't do anything.
56:27
This, this was one of those episodes, Carol said of a
56:34
Claudia's baby blue costume. The thing about that dress is
56:40
that she's come so far and we're so darn happy for her.
56:45
We really feel like she's evolved and we also really feel
56:49
like she may have found people who understand her.
56:54
Then to see that she's forced to regress, that is such a horror.
57:00
And it really is. And it's like at 1st, at first
57:06
you're like, OK, 'cause like Claudia's happy to be included.
57:10
Sure, it's a it's a costume. Like yeah, OK, I get it.
57:13
But. And I think she's like, she's
57:15
happy that like her part of this play, you know, draw so many
57:21
people. But it's like to have her do it
57:24
night after night after like just on end with no and insight
57:32
just really gets to her understandably.
57:35
Like she's an adult, she's an adult woman and she doesn't want
57:39
to be treated like a child. But I've got to say, the Baby
57:45
Lou dress is amazing. I mean, they pick the most
57:48
horrific dress. It's very intentional.
57:50
It's. So bad.
57:52
And she said of the dress. A3 dimensional dress that feels
58:01
very flat and like an illustration, but then building
58:05
dimension into it. I had brilliant textile artists
58:10
and painters airbrushing dimension into that dress, which
58:14
like, that's really like, that's what it looks like.
58:17
Like when people dress up as like comic book characters and
58:20
like do all the makeup. I'm like, that's that in a
58:22
dress. Yeah, it's very like harsh black
58:24
lines, especially like in the bow up to her neck.
58:28
It's because. Thin.
58:30
Yeah, because it's working with, you know, the background, which
58:34
I think is I would actually go to this show, if I'm being
58:37
honest. But she, you know, works with
58:40
like the visual effects are happening behind her.
58:43
It remind me a little bit of what Sandy Powell did for Mary
58:46
Poppins, you know, a few years ago with those costumes that
58:49
like art style. It's it's really quite cool.
58:51
So huge props to the tax all artists because it this is this
58:56
is a dress. It's a dress.
58:58
And I think it's so interesting to see like that the
59:01
illustration originally had like a baby bonnet.
59:04
And I'm like, they definitely were like, that's just a little
59:08
too fun. A little, even our mom would
59:10
have been like, alright, yeah, let's, let's pull it back a
59:13
little bit, yeah. Arvon, we've been like, I'm not
59:16
quite that cruel. Yeah, I'm a bad guy, but I'm not
59:20
a bad guy. No, but then we have one more
59:23
costume that I just wanted to point out, I've already say.
59:26
You just want to complain about. It I was so annoyed with Daniel
59:31
Malloy becoming a vampire at the end that was that was a cheap
59:35
shot Arvon because this guy really, really leans into real
59:39
quick. But I just wanted to talk about
59:41
the costume moment that he had because I just think doing this
59:45
hot sexy vampire month that it's interesting to point out we just
59:49
did the Lost Boys and we have some more vampire stuff coming
59:54
up this month. I just thought it was so
59:56
interesting that Daniel Malloy once, because a vampire goes
59:59
right into like the dark sunglasses and the leather
1:00:01
jacket. It just screams vampire almost
1:00:04
quite immediately. When I saw the glasses on him, I
1:00:07
was like, here we go. I knew exactly what happened on
1:00:11
this man. He's also.
1:00:12
Like trying to convince people that vampires exist.
1:00:15
Yeah, well. Like and he's like, well, yeah,
1:00:18
I am one, see. Yeah, look.
1:00:20
At my black leather jacket. Yeah.
1:00:22
And my sunglasses. He's like, you saw the Lost
1:00:24
Boys. You know what this is?
1:00:26
You know, it's just, it was such a fun costume, though.
1:00:29
And Daniel Malloy looked good, I guess.
1:00:32
I mean, he sells vampire quite immediately.
1:00:35
I'm like, oh, like he was born to be a vampire.
1:00:37
I don't know how long he's going to stick around, but he feels
1:00:40
reckless and a little bit, you know, James Dean, rebel without
1:00:44
a cause a little bit. But, you know, he's having like,
1:00:47
his midlife crisis right now. Literally because I, I'm like, I
1:00:51
think he's just happy to be saved from the cancer and it's
1:00:54
just like, OK, let's enjoy this while it lasts.
1:00:56
Yeah, but I have a feeling that the other vampires are coming
1:01:01
for you, good Sir, But I don't know what happens next.
1:01:04
I would just say you're in trouble, girl.
1:01:06
We will find out. In 2026.
1:01:10
And with that, that brings us to the end of Interview with the
1:01:13
Vampire seasons one and two. I'm so glad we we did this
1:01:17
episode. I've really been excited for it.
1:01:21
But not without. We're not done without talking
1:01:24
about our stitch rating and we'll cost to rule them all.
1:01:27
I'm just going to be quick with Stitch rating.
1:01:28
For me, it was a solid five. I thought every episode, every
1:01:32
season, just production, costume, acting, music.
1:01:37
I just I don't have any notes. Nothing is lacking.
1:01:40
Even yeah, even the slow episodes paid off later on
1:01:45
because it's when we were talking about this earlier off
1:01:47
camera, I felt like it was kind of designed like a murder
1:01:50
mystery, but it's like who screwed up this relationship
1:01:54
type of mystery? So just all the little, all the
1:01:58
little parts matter. You just don't know it yet.
1:02:01
And I just really love that. You don't.
1:02:03
And like, Malloy is because, like, I love that, like Daniel
1:02:06
Malloy figures out like, hey, Louis Armand kind of like
1:02:11
screwed up your relationship. With that, looking at the notes,
1:02:14
looking at the notes, some things are feeling a little off
1:02:20
here. Like they're not.
1:02:22
Adding up, I had a long night going over my tapes.
1:02:27
It's something something's amiss.
1:02:29
So I just think, yeah, I think it was a great show.
1:02:32
I'm surprised more people aren't watching the show.
1:02:35
Actually I. I know you need.
1:02:38
If you haven't seen this, go watch it.
1:02:41
Yeah, even if we just spoiled the whole thing for you, it's
1:02:44
worth watching. But look, you kind of know how
1:02:47
the story goes. Just I think this show does some
1:02:50
interesting things. I'm sure it's not it's I I know
1:02:53
it's not a word for word adaptation.
1:02:54
They've definitely moved things around, but I think they
1:02:58
actually improve upon some things if you've seen like the
1:03:01
original, the other movie and Anne Rice signed off on this.
1:03:04
So I think it's good. I.
1:03:06
Think it gets, I think she signed off because it gets to
1:03:09
the heart of what she was trying to say.
1:03:10
Yeah. And.
1:03:12
Even if things are different, it's I think the meaning and you
1:03:16
know, just the conversations are remain.
1:03:19
Are you ready to play one costume to rule them all?
1:03:22
I. Think so all?
1:03:23
Right, let's do it. The one costume to rule them
1:03:28
all. I'll go first because I have a
1:03:34
feeling you're still cooking in there.
1:03:38
Oh, OK. Well, well, then go.
1:03:42
This may be controversial. MY1 costume rule them all is
1:03:48
Claudia's baby Lou costume. Because like, the way it's such
1:03:56
a story point and what it does to her character, what it does
1:04:03
to like, her psyche, her confidence, how it forces people
1:04:07
around her to treat her, how it's kind of the beginning of
1:04:11
the end of her good relationship with the Paris coven.
1:04:16
Like if they hadn't forced her to stay in that role, things
1:04:20
would have probably ended up different.
1:04:23
And the work that went into it, just the visual, the work that
1:04:30
was put into it to make it this 2D looking 3D piece of art
1:04:38
impeccable. And to me, it's like the murder
1:04:41
weapon, you know, like the Leatherface has his chainsaw and
1:04:45
Ghostface has the knife and Armahan and the the coven have
1:04:50
this ridiculous dress. It it really is like what you
1:04:54
know, one of the final nails in Claudia's permanent coffin.
1:04:58
I should say it's it's an interesting choice.
1:05:01
Did not expect that from you, but it's a good one.
1:05:04
Thank you. I think my one costume rule them
1:05:07
all. Well, I I'm sure I could pick
1:05:09
many different ones. The one that like stuck with me
1:05:13
and I'm just going to stick with it for the sake of time is from
1:05:17
season 1. It's kind of like early season
1:05:20
1, maybe like episode 3, maybe when Louis and I'm, I'm not even
1:05:26
sure if Lestat's direction, it's just Louis.
1:05:29
Louis goes to visit his sister and the twins and his mom and he
1:05:33
shows up kind of out of nowhere wearing this red suit and these
1:05:38
daredevil like red glasses and he's a little confused that why
1:05:45
no one wants to hang out with him anymore.
1:05:47
And he's straight dressed like the devil at this moment.
1:05:50
He looks scary and he's having a hard time adjusting life.
1:05:54
And I just thought that was such a fun costume.
1:05:57
It it's really cool. He, I don't think he's meaning
1:06:00
to do what he's doing, but he's it's, it's saying a lot about
1:06:04
like his evolution at this point where he's kind of out of
1:06:06
control. He's really in the grips of
1:06:08
Lestat. You know when you're in a brand
1:06:10
new relationship and you're acting up?
1:06:12
Louie's acting up. Your boyfriend's gaslighting you
1:06:15
100% of the time. No, I do love this because it
1:06:19
really is the turning point in his, the relationships of his
1:06:24
human life. Like at this point everyone's
1:06:27
like, clearly something's wrong. Clearly you're not going to tell
1:06:31
us and we're not putting up with it anymore.
1:06:34
And he I think he picks the life of the vampire in that moment
1:06:37
too. But I also think it's when he
1:06:40
starts to realize what he's missing out on by no longer
1:06:46
being human. Because it's not long after this
1:06:48
that they they change Claudia because he's like, no, I did
1:06:53
want that human part of like having a family, having a child,
1:06:58
and he just goes a little crazy until he gets Claudia and then
1:07:01
he goes a little crazy now and then again.
1:07:03
Yeah, and then and then everyone just takes turns going crazy for
1:07:06
the next, what, 15 episodes? I don't.
1:07:09
Know give or 20/20/20 out of. Years.
1:07:12
Yeah. Yeah, well, that brings us to
1:07:15
the end of Interview with the Vampire.
1:07:17
Sad to see it go, but please let us know what some of your
1:07:22
favorite costumes were. e-mail us at theartofcostume@gmail.com.
1:07:26
Of course hit us up on Instagram at the art of costume pod,
1:07:29
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1:07:33
YouTube yet, I really implore you, implore you to do so so you
1:07:36
could see us vampire people talking about your favorite
1:07:41
vampire costumes and you get to see my new skeleton goat, which
1:07:46
is currently Nexus. We didn't even address that.
1:07:48
It just. Our little rat.
1:07:50
Which Elizabeth did not like when she walked into the studio.
1:07:53
I still think it's kind of gross looking, but it does its job.
1:07:59
She was like, what is that? And I was like what?
1:08:01
Like I was actually confused. I was like, what is bothering
1:08:04
you? I.
1:08:04
Walked in the Spencer's home, pointed and what is that?
1:08:08
And he was like, what are you talking about?
1:08:09
It's like, I think it's the very obviously the rat that looks
1:08:13
like you got it out of the. Trash.
1:08:15
I thought she was referencing the ancient textbook, which is
1:08:18
actually a dictionary. I was like, oh, it's a
1:08:19
dictionary, Elizabeth. I'm very excited for our next
1:08:25
episode. What are we watching?
1:08:27
Already watched, but you all get to listen.
1:08:29
You know, we this week we explored toxic relationship
1:08:33
goals. This is a good one.
1:08:36
I like where you're going with this.
1:08:38
Next week we're exploring true immortal love goals.
1:08:43
Next week everybody, we are watching Only Lovers Left Alive.
1:08:51
First time watching it for both of us.
1:08:52
And we'll admit we were we're we were a little nervous about
1:08:56
faking this film because we've never seen it.
1:08:59
We. Didn't hear about it till like
1:09:00
it had been out for a decade. Yeah, I didn't know much about
1:09:03
it, but we both watched it. We recorded that episode the
1:09:06
other night and we had so much fun with this one.
1:09:08
It is a great movie and just you all need to add it to your
1:09:14
Halloween vampiric rotation. So trust us when we say that
1:09:18
this is going to be a fun episode.
1:09:19
So please take the time to watch Only Lovers left to life.
1:09:22
It's it feels like a quick watch and it's.
1:09:26
Only like 90 minutes and if you if you like any of the what we
1:09:31
do in the shadows, you'll like this.
1:09:33
But it has Tilda Swinton, Tom Hiddleston, who are vampires and
1:09:39
they are perfect together, style icons, everything.
1:09:43
You're going to love it. So please just trust us to watch
1:09:46
Only Lovers Left alive. Join us next episode.
1:09:48
We're going to get into it. There's a lot of fun stuff
1:09:51
there. And in the meantime, I'm going
1:09:54
to I'm I'm ready to get into my coffin and just save myself for
1:10:00
some more vampire talk. It's this has been a fun series
1:10:04
so far. We're only halfway through It's.
1:10:06
Been so much fun and I can't wait.
1:10:09
Yeah, we'll see you all next week.