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- 0:06Ernie, we've talked about the influence that Paul Richards had on you and the other managers
- 0:11of the teams that you've worked for. Let's go back and talk for just a second and maybe
- 0:15you can give us a little insight to some of these guys that you had an especially close
- 0:20relationship with. How about Bert Schotton?
- 0:22Bert Schotton was a fellow from Bartow, Florida. He was a fisherman. He loved to fish. He'd
- 0:27played ball in the National League, played with the Cardinals and some other clubs. And
- 0:32he was very close to Branch Rickey. When Leo DeRoscia was suspended by the commissioner,
- 0:37Rickey called his old pal down there in Bartow to come on up and manage the values. And he
- 0:42came up in 47 and stayed through 48. Leo came back and eventually went over to the Giants.
- 0:50But Bert Schotton was a very laid back guy, one of the few managers that did not wear
- 0:55a uniform. He'd wear a pair of slacks and he'd wear a Dodger jacket. And he lived at
- 1:00the same hotel I did the Bosset Hotel when I broke in with the Dodgers in 1948. And I
- 1:06used to ride out to the ballpark with him after I got started with the Dodgers, usually
- 1:10with Bert and with the relief pitcher Hugh Casey. And he was a very wonderful gentleman.
- 1:16He didn't get excited one way or the other. You'd get on the train after the game. It
- 1:20might be a very tough loss or it might be a brilliant victory and you really couldn't
- 1:25tell the difference by the manner or demeanor of Bert Schotton.
- 1:29You also had the opportunity in Detroit of working with two managers who had made their
- 1:34name possibly with other teams. A guy who still owns the Major League record for being
- 1:39fired the most times by the same owner, the brat, Billy Martin.
- 1:44Yeah, Billy Martin was quite a guy. Billy came into the Tigers. He'd bounced around
- 1:49a little bit. He'd been a great player and he'd managed it in Minnesota. When he came
- 1:53to the Tigers, he was very popular at first, but as my mom used to say, he wore out his
- 1:59welcome. Billy had a proclivity for after he got started and establishing himself in
- 2:04a job, he began to carp at the other people in the organization, especially his bosses.
- 2:09And it never seemed to work because you don't criticize your bosses too heavily.
- 2:15Sparky Anderson, who had managed the Big Red Machine in Cincinnati to World Championships.
- 2:19Sparky was a big guy, no question about that. He had managed Cincinnati to the World Championship.
- 2:25He was a choice of Jim Campbell. When Les Moss was fired, Sparky came in. Actually,
- 2:30Les had a record around 500, but it was a chance to get Sparky, who'd been out of work.
- 2:35And Jim felt like if he didn't strike then that somebody else would come in and get Sparky.
- 2:40And Sparky had sort of a five-year plan and actually it worked because after five years,
- 2:45the Tigers had a championship team. Sparky and I walked a lot. When we got to be good
- 2:50friends, we'd get up every morning and we'd walk for about an hour. We talked a lot about
- 2:55baseball, a lot about life. And I think I learned a lot from Sparky. He was pretty smart.
- 3:00He was an old used car salesman who knew how to close a deal, you know, and he could read
- 3:06the minds of his players and get the most out of them.
- 3:09Charles Dillon Stingle.
- 3:12K.C., named after the town he came from. He was a failed dentist. He wanted to be a dentist
- 3:18and he couldn't make it. And he came to the National League. He played for Brooklyn and
- 3:23he played for the Giants. And he was a pretty good ball player, but he was always a clown.
- 3:29At Brooklyn, he doffed his cap one time and a bird flew out. He hit a home run in the
- 3:34polo grounds playing for the Giants against the Yankees and lost a shoe running home his
- 3:40inside the park home run. Then he became a manager, first at Boston with the Braves.
- 3:46And he was a terrible manager because he had a terrible team. Somebody said the best thing
- 3:51that ever happened to the Braves was when Casey got hit by a cab and broke his leg and
- 3:55couldn't manage anymore. But then he went to the Yankees and he became a genius. And
- 4:00later on, he was a great manager with a match. But he was the kind of a guy, you know, you'd
- 4:04ask him what time it was and he'd tell you how to build a watch.
- 4:08Mr. Sangal, I'm not sure that I made my question clear.
- 4:13Yes, sir. Well, that's all right. I'm not sure I'm going to answer yours perfectly,
- 4:20either.
- 4:21I was asking you, sir, why it is that baseball wants this bill passed.
- 4:28I would say I wouldn't know, but I would say the reason why they'd want it passed is to
- 4:32keep baseball going as the highest baseball sport that has gone into baseball. And from
- 4:40the baseball angle, I'm not going to speak of any other sport. I'm not in here to argue
- 4:45about other sports. I'm in the baseball business. It's been run cleaner than any baseball business
- 4:51that was ever put out in the hundred years at the present time.
- 4:55Leo DeRosier.
- 4:56He was very volatile. He would be up one time and down the other and he'd had feuds with
- 5:01the writers and he and his wife had feuds and he had feuds with everybody. Leo had
- 5:07come off the streets of Connecticut in the boyhood where he hung around the pool halls
- 5:11and he became a pretty good ball player, sort of a no-hit, great fielding shortstop, and
- 5:16then later made himself a manager. But I think the great thing about Leo is he instilled
- 5:21a certain amount of confidence in his players that no other manager that I've ever been
- 5:26with could do. Somehow they would really go to battle for Leo because they figured that
- 5:32he'd figure out a way as much as he could to win the game for them. Some of the players
- 5:37didn't like Leo. Some of them liked him a lot. But whether they liked him or didn't
- 5:42like him, they did play hard for him.