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The Kenny Report | 27 August · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: This is The Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, hundreds dead, hundreds missing, including 34 Aussies in the
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Speaker 2: devastating flash flood that has ripped through Nepal, destroying whole
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Speaker 2: towns in minutes. And the disgraceful Greens use it to
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Speaker 2: push their climate agenda. Anthony Albanese heads to the country
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Speaker 2: and finds that the locals aren't happy about renewable energy
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Speaker 2: projects and they just don't seem to believe him anymore.
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Speaker 2: The Irishman who hurled anti-Semitic abuse at two holidaying Australians
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Speaker 2: arrested by French police.
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Speaker 1: Sport with Robbo.
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Speaker 2: And Victoria's secret commuter tax with Mark Nicholson.
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: The flash flooding disaster in Nepal is one of the
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Speaker 2: most shocking natural disasters we've ever seen. The speed and
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Speaker 2: power of the flooding has to be seen to be
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Speaker 2: believed and and people caught in its path stood no
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Speaker 2: chance whatsoever. And a warning, the pictures I'm about to
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Speaker 2: show you now clearly capture events that would have resulted
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Speaker 2: in the deaths of many people, but they must be
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Speaker 2: seen to comprehend the scale of this disaster. This is
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Speaker 2: a border crossing station between Tibet and Nepal on the
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Speaker 2: Lendai Kola River. This was a place busy with traffic
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Speaker 2: and people when it was sideswiped by the massive force
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Speaker 2: of the flash flood, destroying all before it. Vehicles, infrastructure,
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Speaker 2: buildings and tragically.
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Speaker 1: Many, many people.
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Speaker 2: This town was sitting safely on the banks of the
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Speaker 2: river one minute and the next parts of it were
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Speaker 2: being swept away with deadly force. Even the bridge wrenched
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Speaker 2: away from the banks and destroyed as it was washed downstream.
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Speaker 2: Other parts of the country, the flooding unfolded a little
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Speaker 2: slower and still homes and villages were destroyed. Have a
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Speaker 2: look at this and note the village on the left
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Speaker 2: of screen.
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Speaker 1: Oi, oi, oi, oi, oi, oi, oi, oi, oi.
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Speaker 2: As the flooding builds quickly, it's clear that the village
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Speaker 2: on the left is still there, seemingly safely above the floodplain.
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Speaker 2: But second by second, the situation only gets worse.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God!
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Speaker 2: Soon enough, it becomes clear that the village on the
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Speaker 2: left has been swamped and torn apart. In just four minutes,
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Speaker 2: what was a quiet, lush, green river valley has been
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Speaker 2: turned into a deadly torrent of mud. The flash flood
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Speaker 2: was triggered when a glacial landslide in the upper reaches
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Speaker 2: of the river crashed into a lake, spilling water, ice
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Speaker 2: and mud into the catchment. This pushed a vast amount
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Speaker 2: of water into the river in an instant and sent
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Speaker 2: it downstream with spectacular and devastating force. The death toll
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Speaker 2: is already higher than 150 people and with hundreds more missing,
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Speaker 2: it will go much, much higher. Foreign Minister Penny Wong
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Speaker 2: has confirmed that 34 Australians are unaccounted for.
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Speaker 3: I'm not in a position to provide any further details
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Speaker 3: about them at this stage. The government's priority is to
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Speaker 3: confirm the whereabouts and welfare of these Australians. And DFAT
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Speaker 3: officials in Nepal and also China are seeking to do that.
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Speaker 2: Nepal, of course, is a poor nation, and apart from
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Speaker 2: this initial emergency, the scale of the damage is going
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Speaker 2: to set back these communities and this country for years
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Speaker 2: to come. An extensive aid effort is going to be needed.
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Speaker 2: I'll cross to Stash Butler for the latest in just
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Speaker 2: a few minutes. Now, sadly, I have to point out
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Speaker 2: some political idiocy and, frankly, political bastardry over this disaster.
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Speaker 2: Even with this human tragedy still unfolding, Greens Senator David
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Speaker 2: Shoebridge has used the trauma to push his climate change zealotry.
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Speaker 4: To step back and have a look at all of
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Speaker 4: the climate chaos and all of this, you know, this
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Speaker 4: extreme weather events, extreme events that are happening around the
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Speaker 4: world and reflect upon what we can do here to
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Speaker 4: try and make this less common, to try and make
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Speaker 4: the planet safer.
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Speaker 2: The stupidity and insensitivity of this is beyond words. Firstly,
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Speaker 2: the reason experts knew how this tragedy unfolded is because
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Speaker 2: it's not a new phenomenon. Glacial avalanches are what they
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Speaker 2: are called and, of course, they are one of the natural,
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Speaker 2: geological and environmental events that shape the landscape in the Himalayas.
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Speaker 2: So talk all you like about climate change, these are
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Speaker 2: natural events that always have occurred and always will from.
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Speaker 1: Time to time.
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Speaker 2: Secondly, regardless of what's happening to the climate, nothing Australia does.
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Speaker 1: Is making any difference.
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Speaker 2: We've already been cutting our emissions at great cost to
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Speaker 2: our economy, but global emissions continue to rise. So to
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Speaker 2: the extent that emission cuts can influence the climate, that
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Speaker 2: just is not happening. And with less than 1% of
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Speaker 2: global emissions, Australia just can't have an impact on any
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Speaker 2: of that. So far from helping to save the planet,
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Speaker 2: and save people from natural disasters, Senator Shoebridge is simply
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Speaker 2: playing politics. He's looking to boost his political standing and
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Speaker 2: push his ideological crusade on climate change on the back
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Speaker 2: of a natural disaster that's killed hundreds of people. The
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister headed west to Dubbo today in central western
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Speaker 2: New South Wales to the Daily Telegraph's Bush Summit.
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Speaker 1: It's not his natural habitat.
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Speaker 2: It's where the locals have highly developed bulldust detectors and
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Speaker 2: they were on to the PM today. Anthony Albanese is
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Speaker 2: more at home spinning discs as a baby boomer pretending
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Speaker 2: to be a Gen X DJ in the woke inner suburbs.
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Speaker 2: Credit to him for getting his shoes dusty today, but
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Speaker 2: the protesters at this event would have confused Albanese. He's
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Speaker 2: used to people protesting against Israel or demanding even more
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Speaker 2: climate action. In Dubbo, the locals were protesting against solar
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Speaker 2: farms and wind projects. These are the people whose districts
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Speaker 2: are overrun by climate zealotry and they've had enough. Inside
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Speaker 2: the event, the PM was asked about how his government-subsidised,
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Speaker 2: government-mandated renewable energy rollout is trampling over the rights of
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Speaker 2: farmers and regional Australians.
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Speaker 5: They're foreign-owned projects here. They're built mostly by foreign workers.
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Speaker 5: They're a work camp, she says, so that people aren't
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Speaker 5: even coming into town to spend money. What message do
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Speaker 5: you have for people here whose lives and livelihoods are
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Speaker 5: being upended and they can't understand why?
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Speaker 1: That I get it. We need to do.
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Speaker 7: We need to.
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Speaker 1: Do better than that.
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Speaker 2: Listen to the disapproval from the audience. And he says
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Speaker 2: he's got to do better. You can say that again.
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Speaker 2: How about getting rid of the nuclear ban and all
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Speaker 2: the net zero rules that make our power increasingly expensive
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Speaker 2: and unreliable? Listen here again as Albanese is asked about
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Speaker 2: government regulations.
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Speaker 5: I spoke to the managing director of Nippies in South Australia,
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Speaker 5: it's an iconic brand, Ben Nitsfull. He said, every day
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Speaker 5: you come to work, there's more costs, more regulation. You
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Speaker 5: wake at night wondering what rule it is that you
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Speaker 5: don't know about that's going to trip you up tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Does it bother you.
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Speaker 5: That in regional communities, farmers see the Albanese government as
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Speaker 5: the enemy?
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Speaker 1: Well, what worries me is over-regulation. I wouldn't care. And
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Speaker 1: we need to do something about it. Again, the audience
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Speaker 1: is on to him.
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Speaker 2: And he says he needs to do something about over-regulation.
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Speaker 2: He's been Prime Minister for more than four years. All
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Speaker 2: he's done is add to regulation, add to union power
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Speaker 2: and add to taxation burdens and add to electricity costs.
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Speaker 2: The trouble is that away from woke inner-city neighbourhoods, this
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister has lost all credibility. He's lied too many times.
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Speaker 2: He's cracked too many melon jokes. He's broken too many
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Speaker 2: promises recently. And he's treated voters like fools too often.
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Speaker 2: It seems that in the bush, they don't believe him.
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Speaker 2: And perhaps that sentiment is spreading to the cities too.
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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, I showed you the horrific
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Speaker 2: anti-Semitic abuse that was levelled at an Australian Jewish couple
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Speaker 2: from Melbourne who were holidaying in France.
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Speaker 1: Here's a reminder.
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Speaker 7: I'm glad that.
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Speaker 1: Hitler didn't finish the job.
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Speaker 8: Go on, say it again, Paddy.
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Speaker 1: Say it again.
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Speaker 4: Paddy, the Irishman just told us he's sorry that Hitler
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Speaker 4: didn't finish the job.
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Speaker 1: You're in Europe here.
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Speaker 5: That's okay.
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Speaker 7: You're in Europe here.
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Speaker 9: That's right.
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Speaker 6: But go on, tell us again. You're sorry Hitler didn't
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Speaker 6: finish the job.
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Speaker 1: Please, tell us again.
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Speaker 10: Tell us again, Paddy.
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Speaker 1: You get the f * * * away with me
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Speaker 1: before I put a f * * * ing bullet
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Speaker 1: in your head, OK?
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Speaker 7: Nice one, f * * * y.
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Speaker 1: Nice one, Paddy. You f * * * ing pigs.
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Speaker 2: Well, the good news today is that an arrest has
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Speaker 2: been made. These French newspaper reports tell us an Irish
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Speaker 2: national in his 60s was arrested in Avignon yesterday, accused
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Speaker 2: of making anti-Semitic remarks and issuing death threats against the
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Speaker 2: Aussie couple. The man has not been named by French police,
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Speaker 2: but he has been held in custody. If charged, he
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Speaker 2: could face up to five years' imprisonment. Well done to
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Speaker 2: the French police. And I just want to share with
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Speaker 2: you a message I got from the victims. One of
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Speaker 2: the women, the woman in that couple, Sharon, has texted me,
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Speaker 2: still overseas, I think, a response to this. And she
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Speaker 2: says that interaction there with Paddy was such a terrifying
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Speaker 2: and perfect reflection of how Jews are treated.
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Speaker 1: All over the world now in 2026.
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Speaker 2: She says it's just like 1942. So she says that's
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Speaker 2: a very much example of the anti-Semitism process that Jews
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Speaker 2: have to face right around the world. Thankfully, the police
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Speaker 2: on this occasion in France have made an arrest. Let's
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Speaker 2: go live now to Taipei and catch up with our
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Speaker 2: Asia correspondent, Stash Butler. Good to talk to you again, Stash.
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Speaker 2: You've been all over what's unfolding in Nepal today. What's
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Speaker 2: the latest as to those 34 Aussies? And also, the
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Speaker 2: sort of death toll that we're looking at here, there's
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Speaker 2: hundreds missing.
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Speaker 1: It could even be into the thousands, couldn't it?
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Speaker 6: Well, we're hearing just shy of 1,500 missing, if you're
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Speaker 6: adding together the tallies of missing people from both sides
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Speaker 6: of this border. Obviously, this emergency, this disaster occurring at
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Speaker 6: that mountainous region where those two countries meet, China and Nepal.
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Speaker 6: On the Chinese side, the last count was around 585,
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Speaker 6: I believe, or so, just shy of 600 missing, higher
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Speaker 6: on the Nepalese side, and hundreds of foreigners among those
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Speaker 6: missing as well. We know from the Nepalese side that
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Speaker 6: more than two dozen nationalities are actually represented among those
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Speaker 6: foreign nationals.
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Speaker 1: Who are missing.
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Speaker 6: The biggest among them that I've seen is Indian nationals.
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Speaker 6: But obviously, there's a huge spread there, including those 34
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Speaker 6: Australian nationals you mentioned. Now, Penny Wong, the foreign minister,
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Speaker 6: said that there's very limited updates on the whereabouts of
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Speaker 6: those Australians. We know that they've been reported missing by
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Speaker 6: various tour groups, one of them reporting 15 Australians missing
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Speaker 6: on a on a two-week trek essentially across the border
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Speaker 6: from Kathmandu into Tibet and back again, including among those
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Speaker 6: 15 Australians, two boys aged 11 and 14. So really
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Speaker 6: tragic news there. And certainly, as you say, the numbers
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Speaker 6: seem to be getting higher. It's obviously a difficult task
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Speaker 6: for authorities in the region to reach those people affected
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Speaker 6: because of the nature of the country. It's obviously very mountainous,
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Speaker 6: very steep valleys, and so many of the roads and
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Speaker 6: access points to those areas have been swept away. So
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Speaker 6: that number has been climbing recently and authorities have said
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Speaker 6: they expect it to climb further as well.
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Speaker 2: Stash, there's going to be the emergency challenge, which is
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Speaker 2: well underway now, to get to people, to rescue people,
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Speaker 2: to recover bodies, to find out who's alive. But this
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Speaker 2: is also going to create a long-term damage in that region. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: bridges and other infrastructure taken away. Nepal is not going
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Speaker 2: to be able to handle that on its own, is it?
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Speaker 2: Is there any suggestion yet from Western nations, other nations
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Speaker 2: in Asia looking at helping Nepal, supplying immediate aid and
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Speaker 2: ongoing aid?
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Speaker 6: Well, we know that South Korea has sent, among other countries,
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Speaker 6: to send rescuers directly to the area. They have a
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Speaker 6: team on their way there, footage broadcast from a South
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Speaker 6: Korean airport showing them on their way. This is, as
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Speaker 6: you say, it's clearly going to be a huge multinational
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Speaker 6: rescue effort there. The UN has also commented on this,
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Speaker 6: the UN Secretary General saying that he was concerned by
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Speaker 6: the devastating news of what was going on in the area.
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Speaker 6: And as you say, again, this is a region that
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Speaker 6: will struggle, is not the most developed, as the Prime
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Speaker 6: Minister said today. it's going to struggle to rebuild. This
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Speaker 6: will be very expensive to rebuild. And of course, some
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Speaker 6: of the infrastructure that's been affected is the same infrastructure
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Speaker 6: that is obviously vital for providing income to the economy
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Speaker 6: as well. I've spoken to two tour operators. Obviously, tour
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Speaker 6: operators and people on those tours are among the people
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Speaker 6: worst affected by this because of where it happened so
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Speaker 6: far remote in that border region, saying that they're In
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Speaker 6: some cases, one tour operator saying he had two experienced
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Speaker 6: guides missing, another tour operator saying that his uncle was
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Speaker 6: missing and his uncle's family, too, away on a pilgrimage
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Speaker 6: to a lake high up in the mountains for a
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Speaker 6: Hindu festival that was due to begin yesterday. So this
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Speaker 6: is clearly a story that's touched so many people. And
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Speaker 6: as you say, it's going to take a long time
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Speaker 6: to recover, too.
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Speaker 2: Stash, thanks for joining us. Appreciate it. Stash Butler there,
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Speaker 2: our Asia correspondent. What a shocking story. situation that is
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Speaker 2: and our hearts go out to everybody affected by this
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Speaker 2: tragic disaster. I want to come back to domestic issues
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Speaker 2: now and catch up with the Shadow Energy Minister, Dan.
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Speaker 1: Tehan, who joins us from Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Dan, I want to start off on the immigration debate
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Speaker 2: with you because there were reports earlier today that as
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Speaker 2: part of their response to try and toughen up on immigration,
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Speaker 2: the Albanese government was going to cut the country's refugee
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Speaker 2: intake from 20,000 a year down to 13,000 a year
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Speaker 2: or just below 14,000 a year. but there's been an
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Speaker 2: intervention late today by the Prime Minister saying they won't
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Speaker 2: cut the refugee intake.
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Speaker 1: It'll stay at 20,000.
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Speaker 2: So this is Tony Burke and Labor having all sorts
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Speaker 2: of trouble reducing the migrant intake.
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Speaker 1: In this country.
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Speaker 11: Well, if you believe those reports, Chris, I mean, my
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Speaker 11: view is they probably have never had any intention of
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Speaker 11: doing it. But what we've seen is the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 11: just let it be leaked out that.
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Speaker 1: It was him.
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Speaker 11: He was the one who said, make sure that this
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Speaker 11: never happened. The whole thing is a mess. Tony Burke
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Speaker 11: had the absolute embarrassment of of being, you know, scheduled to.
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Speaker 1: Go to the press club.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 11: You know, you've been around politics for a long time,
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Speaker 11: as I have. I've never known someone to have to
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Speaker 11: pull out of a press club speech where they had
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Speaker 11: a set time and date to do it. Now we
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Speaker 11: have the PM trying to say, OK, I know he's intervened.
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Speaker 11: This would have gone to Cabinet. This would have been
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Speaker 11: a Cabinet decision. I'm sure they never had any intention
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Speaker 11: to change it. And it's going to be really interesting
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Speaker 11: to see... what they will do, because it seems they're
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Speaker 11: completely at sixes and sevens as to how they're going
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Speaker 11: to address it. They have no plan and they seem
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Speaker 11: to be making it up as they go along.
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Speaker 2: Well, the coalition plan, we haven't got a definitive number,
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Speaker 2: but you're saying that you'll reduce permanent migration, net overseas
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Speaker 2: migration annually to less than 200,000. So if you left
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Speaker 2: the refugee intake at 20,000, that would be more than 10%
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Speaker 2: of our migrants are refugees.
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Speaker 1: Would you cut That intake?
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Speaker 11: Well, look, I don't know what we'll end up doing,
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Speaker 11: but what I can point to is when we took
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Speaker 11: our immigration plan to the last election, we were going
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Speaker 11: to reduce it back to the long-term average, which was 13,750. Now,
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Speaker 11: that's obviously been worked through by a new shadow minister
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Speaker 11: at the time. But we clearly demonstrated at the last
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Speaker 11: election that we thought the figure around the long-term average
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Speaker 11: was a much more suitable figure. Now, where we end up,
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Speaker 11: that ultimately this time will depend on the shadow minister
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Speaker 11: and ultimately what the shadow cabinet decides.
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Speaker 1: But absolutely, if you.
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Speaker 11: Are going to reduce numbers and reduce it, to a
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Speaker 11: sensible level, which is consistent with the amount of housing
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Speaker 11: being built in this nation, then you're going to have
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Speaker 11: to look at making some tough decisions. And we've demonstrated
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Speaker 11: that we were prepared to do that previously.
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Speaker 2: Alright, the South Australian Labor Premier, Peter Malinowskis, was speaking
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Speaker 2: at the Bush Summit today. He's not in favour of
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Speaker 2: drastic cuts to immigration.
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Speaker 1: Here he is. So we don't have a migration crisis.
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Speaker 7: If you accept that we need the Labor.
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Speaker 4: We don't have a migration crisis.
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Speaker 1: We've got a housing crisis.
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Speaker 9: Well, the majority of people that I see working on
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Speaker 9: housing sites in South Australia are from.
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Speaker 1: Other parts of the world.
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Speaker 2: So we could end up exacerbating the housing problem without
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Speaker 2: a thoughtful and a sustainable and significantly large enough migration policy.
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Speaker 2: Dan Tan, is it the migrants who are providing the
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Speaker 2: workers on construction sites?
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Speaker 1: Well, look, obviously they provide some.
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Speaker 11: And one of the things, and once again, just hark
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Speaker 11: back to what we did in the lead up to
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Speaker 11: the last election, we obviously wanted to reduce the numbers
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Speaker 11: because they're too high and they've been completely out of
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Speaker 11: control under Labor. But one of the things you can
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Speaker 11: do is be very specific about the skills you want
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Speaker 11: to bring into the country. and making sure you can
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Speaker 11: deal with shortages when it comes to the construction of
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Speaker 11: housing seems a logical place to start. If you need
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Speaker 11: those skills, we'll use your immigration system to bring those
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Speaker 11: skills in. And that's the path that we were taking...
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Speaker 11: but we wanted to take if we had been elected
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Speaker 11: at the last election.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure this will be something that once again.
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Speaker 11: we consider bring the skills in that you need for
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Speaker 11: things like housing to make sure that you can address
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Speaker 11: shortages in areas like agriculture where we can't get the
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Speaker 11: skills we need. But in all other areas, let's make
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Speaker 11: sure we're skilling and training Australians so that they can
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Speaker 11: do the job. And hopefully, ultimately, when it comes to
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Speaker 11: construction and to agriculture, you could skill and train so
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Speaker 11: that we can address the shortages in those areas as well.
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Speaker 2: Just very quickly, two days ago, Chris Bowen was saying
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Speaker 2: if you want to build a data centre in Australia,
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Speaker 2: you have to supply it with renewable energy.
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Speaker 1: That demand is no longer there. Has he been rolled
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Speaker 1: by his own Prime Minister? Completely rolled.
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Speaker 11: And, you know, once again, it's another utter embarrassment for
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Speaker 11: Chris Bowen. He was behaving like, you know, he's the
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Speaker 11: president of negotiations of the COP and, you know, saying, oh,
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Speaker 11: this is what's going to happen and we've got the
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Speaker 11: Constitution on our side and.
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Speaker 1: We can legislate.
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Speaker 11: And then, you know, the Prime Minister's just completely and
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Speaker 11: utterly rolled over and poor old Chris Bowens ended up
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Speaker 11: with egg on his face again. I mean, you know, seriously,
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Speaker 11: I don't know how he jumps out of bed of
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Speaker 11: a day. If he wasn't so ideologically driven, he'd be
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Speaker 11: hiding under his bed rather than getting out of it
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Speaker 11: and facing the day.
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Speaker 1: Alright, thanks for joining us, Dan. I appreciate it. Dan
21:21
Speaker 1: Tehan there in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to South Australia now and catch up with
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Speaker 2: Australia's longest-serving Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer. Alexander, I just want
21:29
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts first up about this tragic disaster
21:32
Speaker 2: in Nepal. Of course, as Foreign Minister, you helped many
21:35
Speaker 2: nations in our region during shocking natural disasters, most notably,
21:38
Speaker 2: I remember when working with you, the Boxing Day tsunami.
21:41
Speaker 2: But apart from trying to track down Australians who are
21:45
Speaker 2: in Nepal, what else will Australia's diplomats been trying to
21:49
Speaker 2: do in terms of trying to perhaps offer assistance to Nepal?
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Speaker 12: Well, I think it's the second thing that they should
21:57
Speaker 12: do in addition to trying to track down the Australians
22:01
Speaker 12: to see if we have some capacity to provide assistance.
22:06
Speaker 12: After all, Nepal is a developing country, as many have observed,
22:11
Speaker 12: and it has limited resources. This is a huge tragedy.
22:16
Speaker 12: I must admit the vision is very confronting.
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Speaker 1: It's just horrific.
22:23
Speaker 12: And obviously, a large number of people have been killed,
22:27
Speaker 12: and there'll be remains to be found and maybe survivors
22:34
Speaker 12: to be dug out.
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Speaker 1: There'll be all sorts of work.
22:38
Speaker 12: So we should offer some sort of tangible assistance, as
22:42
Speaker 12: well as the DFAT people looking to try and track
22:48
Speaker 12: down the Australians.
22:50
Speaker 2: Now, bringing it back to the political debate here and immigration,
22:54
Speaker 2: Labor seem to be getting the message that the housing
22:57
Speaker 2: crisis and other economic factors mean we need to scale
23:00
Speaker 2: back on immigration, but they seem to have a lot
23:03
Speaker 2: of difficulty for a government in power delivering the policy.
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Speaker 1: A lot of internal dissent, it seems.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, obviously, a huge internal argument over.
23:14
Speaker 1: The refugee quota.
23:17
Speaker 12: where at one stage they planned to reduce it to
23:20
Speaker 12: 13,000 and now apparently reversing that decision. If I were them,
23:26
Speaker 12: I would concentrate on skilled migrants. Skilled migrants contribute to
23:32
Speaker 12: the GDP.
23:33
Speaker 1: Of the country.
23:34
Speaker 12: Family reunions barely do. And I mean, sadly, we should
23:39
Speaker 12: take refugees. I'm in favour of taking some refugees. But
23:44
Speaker 12: on the other hand, refugees do not contribute to the GDP,
23:48
Speaker 12: according to the assessment of the Productivity Commission. So the
23:53
Speaker 12: emphasis should be on skilled migrants. After all, we need
23:58
Speaker 12: to try to get the economy growing again. And we're
24:02
Speaker 12: not going to get it growing again if we bring
24:05
Speaker 12: in people who aren't able to contribute to the economy
24:10
Speaker 12: of the country.
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Speaker 1: So that's what the focus should be.
24:13
Speaker 2: Just on immigration, it's the 25-year anniversary this week to
24:17
Speaker 2: the Tampa standoff, which you'll remember well. You're on the
24:22
Speaker 2: phone to your counterparts in Norway and elsewhere around the world.
24:26
Speaker 2: It was an incredible political drama. Some look back on
24:30
Speaker 2: it in shame. How do you look back on it?
24:35
Speaker 12: I look back on it that we stopped what has
24:39
Speaker 12: subsequently happened in the UK and Europe. So think of
24:44
Speaker 12: the million people that Angela Merkel took into Germany a
24:49
Speaker 12: few years ago and the social and economic chaos and
24:53
Speaker 12: division that was caused by that. Look at the small
24:57
Speaker 12: boats crossings, thousands of people a week crossing the English
25:02
Speaker 12: Channel from France into the U.K., and no British government
25:07
Speaker 12: doing anything about it. We staunched that system with people
25:14
Speaker 12: smugglers deciding who would come to Australia way back in 2001.
25:20
Speaker 12: Kevin Rudd abandoned that system when he came to power.
25:24
Speaker 12: Huge numbers of people started coming again. Boats were wrecked,
25:29
Speaker 12: people were drowned, and eventually Tony Abbott was elected. and
25:35
Speaker 12: the Howard government was reinstated, we stopped the chaos that
25:41
Speaker 12: has engulfed Europe and caused huge social as well as
25:46
Speaker 12: political and economic upheaval.
25:49
Speaker 1: So I look back on it with pride. I mean,
25:52
Speaker 1: John Howard, he.
25:54
Speaker 12: Showed huge courage sticking through all of that in the
25:58
Speaker 12: teeth of relentless opposition from the media.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he sure did, as did Philip Ruddock and yourself
26:07
Speaker 2: at the time.
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Speaker 1: We will decide who comes.
26:10
Speaker 2: To this country and the manner in which they come.
26:13
Speaker 2: It'll go down in history as... That's one of the
26:15
Speaker 2: strongest comments ever made by an Australian Prime Minister. It
26:18
Speaker 2: was John Howard who uttered that. His own words were told.
26:22
Speaker 2: I just want to go to something else that I
26:24
Speaker 2: focused on on the program last night.
26:26
Speaker 1: Richard Flanagan, the.
26:27
Speaker 2: Acclaimed author, decided to speak in Sydney. He decided to
26:32
Speaker 2: speak in Sydney about the Israel lobby. And his essential
26:37
Speaker 2: thesis was that the Israel lobby, by calling out the
26:41
Speaker 2: lies of genocide told against Israel, they were actually inviting
26:46
Speaker 2: anti-Semitism upon themselves and other Australian Jews.
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Speaker 1: Here's Richard Flanagan.
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Speaker 13: As anger around the genocide grew, could it have been
26:56
Speaker 13: the lobby's own axe fuelling anti-Semitism? For the Israel lobby
27:03
Speaker 13: has to answer to all Jews for such acts of
27:05
Speaker 13: grotesque injustice as the unlawful sacking of ABC presenter Antoinette Latouf.
27:13
Speaker 13: A decision Justice Daryl Rangaya found was made, quote, to
27:19
Speaker 13: appease pro-Israel lobbyists behind a campaign of complaints after Latouf
27:25
Speaker 13: shared a Human Rights Watch post about starvation being used
27:29
Speaker 13: as a tool of war in Gaza.
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Speaker 1: Alexander, it's a pretty appalling case of victim-blaming.
27:37
Speaker 12: It is a case of victim blaming, but I know
27:41
Speaker 12: it's all the fault of the Jews. That's the argument.
27:44
Speaker 12: Anti-Semitism is the fault of the Jews. It's a shocking
27:50
Speaker 12: and a very, very old argument that has a long
27:55
Speaker 12: and ugly history. It is not the fault of the
27:59
Speaker 12: Jews that anti-Semitism is rife. It's the fault of the
28:04
Speaker 12: political left and the hardcore Islamic leadership, which has incited
28:11
Speaker 12: this anti-Semitism. And it's hugely damaging to Australia. It is
28:18
Speaker 12: worse in Australia than almost any other country in the world.
28:24
Speaker 12: It's been a shocking development, culminating in December last year
28:30
Speaker 12: with the Bondi massacre.
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Speaker 1: It's just shocking.
28:33
Speaker 12: And what a terrible speech by a man whose books,
28:37
Speaker 12: I have to confess, I've enjoyed over the years.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed.
28:41
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Alexander. I appreciate it. Alexander Downer
28:44
Speaker 2: there live in Adelaide.
28:45
Speaker 1: We'll go to the break.
28:46
Speaker 2: On the other side, we're going to check in on
28:48
Speaker 2: the housing crisis as another major.
28:50
Speaker 1: Developer goes belly up.
28:57
Speaker 2: This week saw a major housing developer, the Bathler Group,
29:00
Speaker 2: placed into voluntary administration as it strained under more than
29:04
Speaker 2: $ 3 billion in debts. That meant tools down and sites
29:10
Speaker 2: abandoned across Sydney, including a project of growth where the
29:15
Speaker 2: company wanted to build at least 500 new homes, as
29:18
Speaker 2: the group's future is discussed.
29:21
Speaker 10: Bafla's debt is in excess of $ 3 billion. Today at
29:25
Speaker 10: their headquarters at Girraween, administrators work to understand what is
29:29
Speaker 10: needed to put the group on a sustainable financial footing.
29:33
Speaker 10: In a statement to Nine News, this is an extremely
29:36
Speaker 10: complex administration process. Our priority is to... As I put
29:30
Speaker 10: to Danita Warne of Master Builders Australia, this is a
29:32
Speaker 10: major setback as the nation struggles to deal with the
29:34
Speaker 10: housing crisis.
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Speaker 14: Chris, this issue is just reflective of what we've been
30:00
Speaker 14: seeing over the last 12 months but really exacerbated since
30:03
Speaker 14: the federal budget decisions in May of this year where
30:08
Speaker 14: we're seeing significant concerns and lack of confidence in the industry.
30:13
Speaker 14: We'd already heard that numerous developments occurred simply are not
30:17
Speaker 14: getting off the ground because of a lack of confidence,
30:20
Speaker 14: a lack of capacity to get returns. And that has
30:23
Speaker 14: been now doubled down since the federal budget with its
30:27
Speaker 14: multiple tax hikes on property, making it even harder for investment,
30:32
Speaker 14: which means one thing. less supply of homes that we
30:36
Speaker 14: desperately need across the country.
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Speaker 2: This is a big problem because we've got this housing crisis.
30:41
Speaker 2: The federal government tried to argue its changes were designed
30:45
Speaker 2: to bring more housing onto the market, but you're saying
30:47
Speaker 2: it's having the opposite effect.
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Speaker 14: That's right, Chris. We did modelling that we provided to
30:53
Speaker 14: government before the federal budget and, again, reinforced that in
30:57
Speaker 14: modelling after the federal budget that this would mean that
31:01
Speaker 14: we'll have less supply of homes. And incredulously, the federal
31:06
Speaker 14: government themselves in their budget papers said that their tax
31:09
Speaker 14: hikes on property would result in less supply of new homes.
31:14
Speaker 14: So we're seeing that not only on supply but, of course,
31:17
Speaker 14: the significant increase in rents as well. So it is
31:21
Speaker 14: an anathema in comparison to what they committed to in
31:25
Speaker 14: the federal election. And that was more and more and
31:28
Speaker 14: more supply of homes. And we're seeing that already play
31:32
Speaker 14: out in such a short period of time.
31:34
Speaker 2: So the supply of new homes is constrained. It's not
31:38
Speaker 2: increasing fast enough. We've still got relatively high immigration. Rents
31:43
Speaker 2: are already going up. Just how bad is that rental
31:45
Speaker 2: situation going to get?
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Speaker 14: Well, the government indicated that their changes would only lead
31:52
Speaker 14: to around about an increase of $ 2 per week on average,
31:56
Speaker 14: and modelling shows at least a $ 9 increase on average
32:01
Speaker 14: across the industry in terms of rental market. We're seeing
32:05
Speaker 14: that already play out in many parts of the country.
32:09
Speaker 14: So the issue should be on supply of housing across
32:13
Speaker 14: the entire spectrum, whether it's owner-occupier, whether it's renters, whether
32:17
Speaker 14: it's detached homes or whether it's high-rise. And we're anticipating
32:22
Speaker 14: that there will be a significant downturn in supply and
32:25
Speaker 14: certainly nowhere near the government's own housing accord targets of
32:29
Speaker 14: 1.2 million homes over five years.
32:32
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that figure is shot, right? 1.2 million homes
32:36
Speaker 2: over five years. It seems pie in the sky stuff now.
32:39
Speaker 2: But the idea of changing the negative gearing rules so
32:42
Speaker 2: that anyone wanting to negative gear in the future, now
32:47
Speaker 2: that is, has to go into new builds rather than
32:50
Speaker 2: existing homes, has that triggered any increase in people looking
32:55
Speaker 2: at purchasing of new builds?
32:58
Speaker 14: No, not really, Chris, because we always know that new
33:01
Speaker 14: becomes old and therefore the second round investor will not
33:05
Speaker 14: invest in it. So instead, we're seeing people just totally
33:08
Speaker 14: vacate the residential property market as investors. And we've seen
33:14
Speaker 14: that not only because of the capital gains tax negative
33:16
Speaker 14: gearing changes, but also because of the prohibition now of
33:20
Speaker 14: self-managed super funds being able to borrow for residential builds.
33:25
Speaker 14: So there was a double whammy there. And as a consequence, people,
33:29
Speaker 14: as we said in our modelling before the federal budget,
33:32
Speaker 14: you will see a vacation by property investors out of
33:38
Speaker 14: this asset class, and that is residential construction, at a
33:41
Speaker 14: time where we can least afford it. And that, of course,
33:44
Speaker 14: doesn't even start when it comes to the decision also
33:47
Speaker 14: to change the trust arrangements that impact about 20% of
33:51
Speaker 14: our members as well.
33:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a hell of a problem.
33:54
Speaker 2: I think the rent increases will be a lot higher
33:57
Speaker 2: than the.
33:58
Speaker 1: $ 9 you've talked about. We've seen that already, haven't we?
34:00
Speaker 1: You must be very worried about where that's going.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, look, we're very, very concerned and really very concerned
34:06
Speaker 14: that we are seeing renters pitted against owner-occupiers. It should
34:11
Speaker 14: not be this case. We should be increasing supply in
34:15
Speaker 14: all aspects of the residential market so we don't have
34:19
Speaker 14: this situation that it becomes unfair to renters at the
34:22
Speaker 14: expense of first home buyers. And perversely, it means it
34:26
Speaker 14: takes you longer now to actually enable a deposit.
34:30
Speaker 1: Yes, save up the money to get into the market.
34:33
Speaker 1: It's a mess. We could see this coming. You could
34:36
Speaker 1: see it coming. And it's starting to unfold. Thanks for
34:38
Speaker 1: joining us, Danita. I appreciate it.
34:40
Speaker 10: Thank you, Chris.
34:42
Speaker 1: Unbelievable, isn't it?
34:43
Speaker 2: We predicted all this before the budget, even when we
34:46
Speaker 2: knew Labor was going to do this. They pretend it's
34:49
Speaker 2: fixing the housing crisis. It's only making the housing crisis
34:52
Speaker 2: worse and pushing up everybody's rent.
34:54
Speaker 1: What a shambles.
34:55
Speaker 2: Well, the Prime Minister went out to Dubbo today, as
34:58
Speaker 2: I told you. After the break, we'll check in.
34:59
Speaker 1: On how he went out there. The locals are on
35:01
Speaker 1: to him. They're not too happy.
35:09
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Sunraysia District in Victoria and catch
35:12
Speaker 2: up with the Shadow Regional Health Minister, Anne Webster. Anne,
35:15
Speaker 2: you weren't at the Bush summit today, but you're in
35:17
Speaker 2: the Bush.
35:18
Speaker 1: Most days, I suppose. What do you make of Albo's reception?
35:24
Speaker 15: Oh, my goodness, Chris. Look, the Prime Minister gets the
35:28
Speaker 15: reception he deserves. I heard some of his comments today
35:32
Speaker 15: about how he's really concerned and he wants to get
35:35
Speaker 15: the balance right about red tape and farmers not wanting
35:40
Speaker 15: to have renewables on their land. Damn right. They don't
35:44
Speaker 15: and they're very angry about it and regional communities across
35:48
Speaker 15: Australia have made it very plain.
35:50
Speaker 1: In fact, Chris, it.
35:51
Speaker 15: Reminds me of Ballarat. Last year you would recall the
35:54
Speaker 15: tractors chasing the Prime Minister out of Ballarat. That was
35:58
Speaker 15: pretty funny. I don't know whether Dubbo managed that trick today. But, no,
36:04
Speaker 15: he gets what he deserves as a Prime Minister who
36:08
Speaker 15: is happy to railroad and bulldoze through our regional areas.
36:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sounded like a Prime Minister who's only been
36:16
Speaker 2: in the job for a week because these issues have
36:18
Speaker 2: been running rampant for years and all he said was, oh, yeah,
36:22
Speaker 2: I might need to get on to that.
36:23
Speaker 1: Have a look.
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Speaker 5: What message do you have for people here whose lives
36:27
Speaker 5: and livelihoods are being upended and they can't understand why?
36:30
Speaker 2: That I get it.
36:32
Speaker 1: We need to do.
36:35
Speaker 7: We need.
36:36
Speaker 1: To do better than that.
36:38
Speaker 11: You can't have, you need social licence in order to operate.
36:43
Speaker 5: Does it bother you that in regional communities, farmers see
36:46
Speaker 5: the Albanese government as the enemy?
36:48
Speaker 1: Well, what worries me is over-regulation. I wouldn't care. And
36:55
Speaker 1: we need to do something about it.
36:57
Speaker 7: And we are.
36:59
Speaker 2: Gemma Jones, the editor of the Advertiser in Adelaide, putting
37:02
Speaker 2: the wood on the Prime Minister.
37:04
Speaker 1: This is incredible.
37:05
Speaker 2: He's halfway through his second term, Anne, and he's talking, oh, yeah,
37:08
Speaker 2: we might need to do something on this.
37:10
Speaker 1: I mean, do something. Yeah, exactly.
37:15
Speaker 15: Do something. And maybe also talk to your state counterparts,
37:19
Speaker 15: like Victorian government. who are literally fining our farmers over
37:25
Speaker 15: $ 800 because they won't let biosecurity risks called VicGrid onto
37:29
Speaker 15: their properties. I mean, the Prime Minister is just extraordinary.
37:34
Speaker 15: He waffles about social licence like he actually knows what
37:37
Speaker 15: it is. He has no clue what social licence is
37:42
Speaker 15: out in the regions. He has none.
37:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible to see. I mean, I give him
37:47
Speaker 1: marks for being there.
37:49
Speaker 2: Good that he goes to Dubbo, but he's got to
37:51
Speaker 2: have some idea of the issues in the country and
37:54
Speaker 2: show some interest that in four years he might have
37:56
Speaker 2: turned his attention to it and it.
37:58
Speaker 1: Seemed like he hadn't.
38:00
Speaker 2: I want to go back to an issue we've discussed before.
38:03
Speaker 2: This is the private health insurance rebate that's been cut
38:08
Speaker 2: in the budget for those over 65. I mentioned this
38:12
Speaker 2: statistic to Anne Ruston the other day.
38:14
Speaker 1: It is incredible.
38:16
Speaker 2: That 1.2 million pensioners, 1.2 million Australians who are on
38:22
Speaker 2: fixed incomes... are going to be affected by this, and
38:25
Speaker 2: at least 44,000 of them will end up giving up
38:29
Speaker 2: their private health insurance. This is a massive problem, especially
38:32
Speaker 2: for those individuals, of course.
38:36
Speaker 15: Oh, 100%. And the 44,000, let's remember, that's a Labor figure.
38:41
Speaker 15: I think you can, you know, weigh that.
38:43
Speaker 1: Up in your own mind.
38:44
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why I say at least.
38:44
Speaker 1: There are other sources. Yeah, exactly.
38:48
Speaker 15: Because there are certainly the National Seniors Australia are saying
38:52
Speaker 15: up to 400,000 people will drop their cover or 270
38:54
Speaker 15: remove it altogether. That's a huge problem. What the Prime
39:03
Speaker 15: Minister has done is he is robbing Peter to pay
39:05
Speaker 15: Paul because those people will end up in the public
39:09
Speaker 15: health system. And for anyone who doesn't know, Victoria's public
39:13
Speaker 15: health system is diabolical. And I'm aware that that is
39:16
Speaker 15: the same across other jurisdictions as well.
39:19
Speaker 5: So people are.
39:20
Speaker 15: Going to end up waiting for years. They're already waiting
39:23
Speaker 15: two and three years to have a hip or a
39:25
Speaker 15: knee or cataracts done. And this is only going to
39:28
Speaker 15: make it worse. It is a terrible decision in order
39:31
Speaker 15: to pretend they're going to grab $ 11 billion from pensioners.
39:34
Speaker 7: Yeah.
39:35
Speaker 12: And as.
39:39
Speaker 2: A correspondent mentioned to me the other day, these are
39:41
Speaker 2: people who've paid taxes all their life and the government
39:44
Speaker 2: managed to hand out $ 16 billion to students to lower.
39:48
Speaker 1: Their debt to get their votes ahead of the election.
39:50
Speaker 1: but they're screwing over people who have paid taxes all
39:53
Speaker 1: their lives. Thanks for joining us, Anne. I appreciate it.
39:56
Speaker 2: Let's lighten the mood and get to some sports. And
39:59
Speaker 2: this week, we want to talk about the two big
40:01
Speaker 2: footy codes, of course, heading into finals. Now, sports broadcaster
40:06
Speaker 2: Mark Robinson joins us from Victoria.
40:08
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, Robbo.
40:09
Speaker 2: Let's start off with the AFL, with the announcement this
40:12
Speaker 2: week of the All-Australian team and... You know, hopefully it's
40:15
Speaker 2: the last time we have to talk about the Swans scandal,
40:19
Speaker 2: but the five players caught in that were sort of
40:22
Speaker 2: ruled out of contention for the All-Australian team.
40:25
Speaker 1: There's a fair chance. Tell me what you think.
40:28
Speaker 2: Would Isaac Heaney and Chad Warner have been in that
40:31
Speaker 2: team if they were not involved in this scandal?
40:34
Speaker 7: Warner, probably. Heaney, yes. Nick Blakey, yes. There was late
40:39
Speaker 7: changes to that.
40:40
Speaker 8: I don't think many people would disagree with that, but
40:43
Speaker 8: I watch you every week, Chris, and the failing country
40:48
Speaker 8: and the scandals in sport thankfully have been replaced this
40:52
Speaker 8: week with two outstanding sports stories, human stories. And the
40:58
Speaker 8: first one was, well, there's two at the All-Australian, Max
41:00
Speaker 8: Gorn going for a record ninth All-Australian, and the argument is,
41:04
Speaker 8: you know, is he the best Ruckman ever? You can
41:06
Speaker 8: push that aside because there's no real answer to that,
41:09
Speaker 8: but Max Gorn has shown himself to be just a giant,
41:12
Speaker 8: of this century playing football. And more to the point,
41:17
Speaker 8: probably your favourite player, I reckon, Jordan Dawson. He was
41:21
Speaker 8: named the most courageous player. He was named the player's captain.
41:26
Speaker 7: I think he should have been named the All-Australian captain.
41:29
Speaker 8: He spoke with a heaviness that absolutely affected.
41:35
Speaker 7: Everyone who was watching the show.
41:37
Speaker 8: We all know Jordan lost his brother earlier this year
41:40
Speaker 8: and he took a couple of weeks off and Jordan
41:42
Speaker 8: Dawson returned and played some of the most inspiring football
41:46
Speaker 8: I've seen from a player for many a year.
41:50
Speaker 7: And you would know that. You've watched the Crows a lot, mate.
41:54
Speaker 1: Oh, I do, mate. I've got to say, I love
41:58
Speaker 1: Jordan Dawson. I don't know him. I've not met him.
42:00
Speaker 2: I've been in the rooms talking to other Crows players
42:02
Speaker 2: and seen him nearby.
42:04
Speaker 1: I've got to meet him sometime. But what a legend
42:06
Speaker 1: he is.
42:06
Speaker 2: And for those people who don't know, Jordan Dawson lost
42:09
Speaker 2: his brother to suicide earlier this year, continued to play,
42:13
Speaker 2: played brilliantly. I want to show you what Robbo was
42:16
Speaker 2: talking about here because he got the award for the
42:19
Speaker 2: most courageous player ever in the league.
42:21
Speaker 1: Now, that in itself.
42:23
Speaker 2: Was brilliant because it's showing the courage on the field
42:25
Speaker 2: but also that mental courage as well. Listen to what
42:28
Speaker 2: Jordan Dawson says and then listen to the All-Australian captain,
42:32
Speaker 2: Max Gorn, salute Jordan Dawson.
42:35
Speaker 16: I just want to wish anyone who's struggled with mental
42:39
Speaker 16: health out there or who is struggling with mental health
42:42
Speaker 16: to know that you are definitely loved and the world
42:46
Speaker 16: is a better place.
42:46
Speaker 17: With you in it.
42:49
Speaker 16: And that you are enough.
42:50
Speaker 17: For Jordan to get up and did what he did,
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Speaker 17: to speak about mental health, to lead his side through
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Speaker 17: the tragedy that happened in his family, and then to
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Speaker 17: show vulnerability in front of a group of strangers that
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Speaker 17: he hasn't got it right, he hasn't got it perfect,
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Speaker 17: he's battling right now, and asking for help, like, that's
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Speaker 17: a captain that I want to be behind.
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Speaker 2: A lot of talk about toxic masculinity these days, Robbo.
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Speaker 1: There are two fine men.
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Speaker 7: I couldn't agree more. I mean, the courage for Jordan Dawson... to.
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Speaker 8: Get up and speak is one thing that it's hard
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Speaker 8: to imagine finding, you know, the power within to do
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Speaker 8: that in a room full of, as Max said, a
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Speaker 8: room full of a lot of strangers. And for Max Gorn,
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Speaker 8: what a quality man Max Gorn is. A great ambassador
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Speaker 8: for the game to say, hey, I've got named captain. But, basically,
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Speaker 8: I think Jordan Dawson should be captain.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible. Incredibly generous. Now, we've got to get to
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Speaker 1: NRL too.
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Speaker 2: An inspiring story in the NRL with Jai Arrow, who
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Speaker 2: we all know is facing a battle with MND now.
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Speaker 1: He's playing days seemingly over.
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Speaker 2: But they're going to let him run out and sit
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Speaker 2: on the bench for two more games to get to
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Speaker 2: his 100 games.
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Speaker 1: And here's what his team-mate Cody Walker's had to say
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Speaker 1: about it.
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Speaker 18: Very happy that we can honour him and get him
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Speaker 18: to those two games that he thoroughly deserved. He's a
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Speaker 18: big part of our club, a big part of our team,
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Speaker 18: and he's a big part of my life since he's
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Speaker 18: come to the club. So it's a beautiful way to sort.
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Speaker 1: Of send him off.
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Speaker 2: Robbo, what a great way to honour him and allow
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Speaker 2: him to chalk up that milestone.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, sport's a funny thing, isn't it, Chris?
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Speaker 8: It gets kicked in the head a lot for some
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Speaker 8: of it is their own fault, but often sport supplies
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Speaker 8: stories like that, Jai Arrow, He's not just a rugby
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Speaker 8: league player. He's now a national figure fighting MND. For
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Speaker 8: the Rabbit Hove to go to such lengths to say, hey,
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Speaker 8: we want you to get to 100 games of NRL
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Speaker 8: and the rugby league saying, yes, that is a fantastic idea.
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Speaker 8: It means that sport's so cutthroat and so win or
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Speaker 8: loss and it's stand up.
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Speaker 7: It's still got a really good heart.
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Speaker 8: If you've ever been in men's rooms, women's rooms or
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Speaker 8: played sport, there is absolute room for the human emotion
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Speaker 8: to play a role. And what the Rugby League has done,
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Speaker 8: I just think that is a magnificent gesture.
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Speaker 1: Well said, Robbo. Thanks for joining us. Love it, mate.
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Speaker 2: Robbo there with some good news in sport this week,
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Speaker 2: some really good gestures from fine people.
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Speaker 1: We've got to get to a break.
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Speaker 2: On the other side, we'll check in on Victoria's secret
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Speaker 2: commute attacks with Mark Nicholson. Let's go to Melbourne and
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Speaker 2: catch up with Mark Nicholson, one nation candidate in the
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Speaker 2: Victorian state election and, of course, the man behind the
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Speaker 2: Please Explain.
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Speaker 1: Cartoons, mate.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you one political question where you can
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Speaker 2: put your politician's hat on, then we'll go to a
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Speaker 2: couple of funny cartoonist.
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Speaker 1: Questions, eh?
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Speaker 2: The serious political question is this secret commuter tax bill
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Speaker 2: that Labor has secretly imposed on Victorians.
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Speaker 1: Have already been paying it. Now, the new Premier there,
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Speaker 1: of course, he says you'll get rid of it now,
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Speaker 1: but how long has he known about this? This is
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Speaker 1: crook as. Yeah, mate, yeah. Let's give him the benefit
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Speaker 1: of the doubt, mate.
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Speaker 9: He was just the transport minister before he was the Premier.
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Speaker 9: He had no idea what was going on.
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Speaker 1: What a joke.
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Speaker 9: Like, honestly... And you know what's really shocking is that
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Speaker 9: no-one is surprised or shocked. Everyone's telling me, it's like, ah,
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Speaker 9: Labor or Labor, mate. You know, it is what it is.
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Speaker 9: Everyone is just so accustomed to it.
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Speaker 1: It's so wrong.
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Speaker 9: They essentially pickpocketed every commuter in Victoria... and took all
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Speaker 9: their money and then they stood up at a press
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Speaker 9: conference today and went, I don't want to re-litigate the past.
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Speaker 9: Could you imagine going into a courtroom and saying that
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Speaker 9: to the magistrate? Like, Your Honour, you're living in the past.
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Speaker 1: Calm down. I'm being transparent.
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Speaker 9: The only thing that's transparent is their contempt for the taxpayer, mate.
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Speaker 1: It's disgusting. It is incredible.
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Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts then on Harry and
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Speaker 2: Meghan getting back to the UK, ingratiating themselves back to
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Speaker 2: the British public and the royal family.
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Speaker 9: Mate, you've got to feel sorry for the UK.
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Speaker 1: Hey, look at them. Look at that.
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Speaker 9: The poor buggers trying to escape the British media, the
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Speaker 9: harshness of the British media by returning back to Britain
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Speaker 9: in their private jet. Look at them go. You've got
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Speaker 9: to feel for them. I actually feel sorry for the UK,
47:26
Speaker 9: poor buggers.
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Speaker 2: The global privacy tour continues. Now, I've got to get
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on this story that came.
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Speaker 1: From our producer, Montana, found in this brilliant bit of news.
47:39
Speaker 2: There's a schoolteacher in Atlanta, Georgia, who's worried about students
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Speaker 2: breaking wind too often, so she's set up a special.
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Speaker 1: Corner for them to go and break wind. Have a look.
47:52
Speaker 1: Get up off the rug, walk over here.
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Speaker 11: And they come right here to the Gusty Winds area.
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Speaker 6: And, of course, we have everything.
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Speaker 4: They need over here.
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Speaker 1: Will One Nation mandate those in Victorian classrooms?
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Speaker 9: Mate, this reeks of over-regulation. I'm not meant to be
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Speaker 9: doing policy on the run. Pauline said strictly no policy
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Speaker 9: on the run, but I'm doing it. We're going to
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Speaker 9: let it rip in Victoria. There will be no gas station,
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Speaker 9: no fart corner in Victorian schools.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
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Speaker 9: We're going to let it rip.
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Speaker 1: This reeks of over-regulation. It reeks of something. Maybe over-regulation.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Mark. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Mark Nicholson, of course, the man behind those Please Explain
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Speaker 2: cartoons for One Nation that you can see on Facebook
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Speaker 2: and elsewhere. Now, I want to give you some of
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Speaker 2: your feed, share some of your feedback from what I
48:46
Speaker 2: had to say last night about the Albanese government's handling
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Speaker 2: of the economy. Mark says,' Cost of living skyrocketing and
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Speaker 2: living standards falling in a resource-rich country is a failure
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Speaker 2: of government.
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Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth?
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Speaker 2: Another viewer says,' A government only exists to actively improve
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Speaker 2: a country's condition relative to standard of living, productivity and prosperity.'
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Speaker 2: How has Albanese's Labor fared on these counts? Well, they've
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Speaker 2: failed on all those counts. Another viewer says, this is
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Speaker 2: a cost of government crisis.
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Speaker 1: That is true. Not a cost of living crisis, a
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Speaker 1: cost of government crisis.
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Speaker 2: And another viewer says, the way it's going, they won't
49:25
Speaker 2: be able to pay the pensions.
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Speaker 1: That's all the time we've got for you this week.
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Speaker 1: Special good luck to Riley Burt. He's last night on
49:34
Speaker 1: the show.
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Speaker 2: He's off to work for Jacinta Nampajimpa Price. So he's
49:39
Speaker 2: still doing good things for the country. Peter Credlin's up next.