Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Alice Springs Councillor Mark Coffey says the Council has suspended the community footy competition over concerns about crime but hopes it’ll still go ahead in remote communities
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We know out of Alice Springs at the moment that
- 0:02Speaker 1: the town Council has withdrawn support for the Alice Springs
- 0:05Speaker 1: or sorry for the Central Australian Football League, their community
- 0:08Speaker 1: competition which the upcoming season is due to start in May,
- 0:13Speaker 1: I believe now Counselor Michael Little moved the motion at
- 0:16Speaker 1: a recent council meeting following debate about crime, which passed
- 0:20Speaker 1: with a slim majority. Now it has raised questions about
- 0:23Speaker 1: how the competition is going to proceed, so it runs
- 0:26Speaker 1: from May until August. But there are also, you know,
- 0:30Speaker 1: by the sounds of things, a number of reasons why
- 0:32Speaker 1: the council has made this decision. And joining me on
- 0:35Speaker 1: the line right now is the Alla Springs Town councilor
- 0:38Speaker 1: Mark Coffee, Good morning to you.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Mark, Good morning Toady.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Mark. Tell me this was obviously a vote that happened yesterday.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Why did the council decide to withdraw the support for
- 0:50Speaker 1: the Central Australian Football League community competition?
- 0:54Speaker 2: Okatie, We have been talking about the community competition in
- 0:58Speaker 2: Ala Springs but for a couple of years, ever since
- 1:02Speaker 2: I've been on council, and we were concerned that there's
- 1:05Speaker 2: sort of pushbull factor about a community coming in to
- 1:09Speaker 2: play football along with their families and then getting stuck
- 1:13Speaker 2: in town and they're not returning to community and the
- 1:15Speaker 2: impact that that had on our springs. I should point
- 1:20Speaker 2: out that this is not about stopping Aboriginal people playing football.
- 1:26Speaker 2: They can still play in the town comp which occurs
- 1:29Speaker 2: on a Saturday. This about the community com which should
- 1:33Speaker 2: be played out in community. We should have facilities out
- 1:36Speaker 2: in community so that you know, those communities don't have
- 1:40Speaker 2: to travel hundreds of kilometers with all the associated challenges
- 1:44Speaker 2: that that brings, but allowing them to play sport, especially
- 1:49Speaker 2: football in this case, out on the community. So with
- 1:53Speaker 2: everything that's happened in the last twelve months with them,
- 1:55Speaker 2: the crime and law and order issues and the impacts
- 1:57Speaker 2: on our springs that we've been tough for, we just
- 2:01Speaker 2: thought it was important that the town has the ability
- 2:05Speaker 2: to pause this competition for this year. It's only for
- 2:09Speaker 2: this year, yep, and that afl MT and others can
- 2:13Speaker 2: work out how they can get these games to be
- 2:16Speaker 2: played out in communities in the future.
- 2:19Speaker 1: And Mark does the competition usually bring quite a few
- 2:23Speaker 1: people in from the communities. You know, when you talk
- 2:25Speaker 1: about not just the teams but everybody that comes to watch.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Yeah, that's rightly so people do travel in families travel,
- 2:33Speaker 2: they come in to watch as well as do other things.
- 2:36Speaker 2: But as I've said, there is some evidence out there
- 2:39Speaker 2: that they tend to stay in town and of course
- 2:41Speaker 2: that impacts on where they're living. They go into town camps,
- 2:45Speaker 2: and that it impacts on already overcrowded houses and another
- 2:50Speaker 2: sort of short term accommodation is very limited in Oil Springs,
- 2:54Speaker 2: so that does impact significantly on the town. And we
- 2:58Speaker 2: much prefer the community is to be able to play
- 3:02Speaker 2: this sport and in community, and we've had that from
- 3:05Speaker 2: a number of community people are and cold, I think
- 3:09Speaker 2: just today and last council meeting was saying it should
- 3:14Speaker 2: definitely be played on community. And you know, we're a
- 3:17Speaker 2: bit dismayed to hear of AFL spending millions of dollars
- 3:22Speaker 2: to allow Tasmania to put an AFL side in. Well,
- 3:25Speaker 2: we'd ask them to come and spend some money in
- 3:27Speaker 2: our remote communities to allow people out there access to
- 3:32Speaker 2: some of the basics that you get everywhere else in Australia.
- 3:36Speaker 1: I know that that certainly AFL and t have issued
- 3:39Speaker 1: a statement and they have said that you know that
- 3:42Speaker 1: the that the decision by the council, they're deeply deeply
- 3:46Speaker 1: disappointed by the decision to withdraw support for the for
- 3:50Speaker 1: the competition, and that to date there's no evidence around
- 3:54Speaker 1: the supposed negative impact the community competition has on social
- 3:58Speaker 1: issues in Alice Springs. I mean, is there any evidence
- 4:01Speaker 1: to support that it does bring any antisocial behavior?
- 4:06Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't accept the door. It was on
- 4:09Speaker 2: the afl MP board and the ALPA board for many years.
- 4:12Speaker 2: We've had numerous incidents at the football and around the football,
- 4:17Speaker 2: not just from players but also supporters and from people
- 4:22Speaker 2: that are traveling with them impacting our springs. I think
- 4:25Speaker 2: that's well documented. I just don't accept that, Katie. We
- 4:30Speaker 2: do accept that football is very important in terms of
- 4:33Speaker 2: supporting young people, male and female in a number of areas.
- 4:39Speaker 2: But we would say that this is not about stopping
- 4:42Speaker 2: people playing the sport. It's about enabling them to do
- 4:46Speaker 2: it in their home communities, closer to home, so that
- 4:50Speaker 2: these young people can continue to do what they do,
- 4:52Speaker 2: attend school, work in their communities, do whatever they're doing
- 4:56Speaker 2: that rather than having to travel hundreds of condons AFL
- 5:00Speaker 2: and T already run comps over in I think gove
- 5:03Speaker 2: Elko Island and some of those other places. We would
- 5:07Speaker 2: ask them to start running some of these comps down
- 5:10Speaker 2: here in Santa Treza, in you and the move in
- 5:13Speaker 2: Ta Tree, even at Lara perhaps you know there are
- 5:17Speaker 2: I get that some of the facilities aren't up scratched,
- 5:19Speaker 2: but I'm sure the ofl MT could do more in
- 5:23Speaker 2: terms of getting some of these competitions running in these remotes.
- 5:28Speaker 1: And mark is the situation here, I mean, realistically, Alla
- 5:31Speaker 1: Springs has gone through a pretty dreadful time in recent
- 5:34Speaker 1: months with the issues that you have experience with crime
- 5:37Speaker 1: and anti social behavior. I mean, is the situation here
- 5:41Speaker 1: that town just needs a bit of respite.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Oh definitely, Cadie, like, we're all stealing the pinch of
- 5:49Speaker 2: these issues that have been occurring, especially since the Strom
- 5:53Speaker 2: your Future's Legislation fee. I understand it's back in now,
- 5:57Speaker 2: but for that six months it was living hell down
- 6:00Speaker 2: here in our springs. You know, people were getting officers,
- 6:03Speaker 2: breaking into cars, smash experiencing anti social behavior all the time. Now,
- 6:09Speaker 2: the NT government, to the credit that have put some
- 6:11Speaker 2: things in place, including our whole restrictions and that's improved things.
- 6:16Speaker 2: So we're all we're all sort of playing our partner this.
- 6:19Speaker 2: So now we're saying the lay Felm, you need to
- 6:21Speaker 2: play your part and counsel have made a decision that
- 6:26Speaker 2: the community can't occur here in town. You go sort
- 6:29Speaker 2: it out and get it happening out Bush to support
- 6:33Speaker 2: the Town of our Springs for this year so that
- 6:36Speaker 2: we can sort of return the town to normality, so
- 6:40Speaker 2: we don't have to put up with these levels of
- 6:43Speaker 2: law and order and crime and social behavior that's just
- 6:46Speaker 2: not acceptable. The behavior wouldn't be accepted anywhere else, and
- 6:49Speaker 2: say why should we accept it down here? It is?
- 6:53Speaker 2: It is important now.
- 6:55Speaker 1: I know as will Mark that obviously there was majority
- 6:58Speaker 1: support for this. Does look as though, you know, the
- 7:01Speaker 1: majority of counselors did did accept this and did say
- 7:04Speaker 1: that this was the right decision to make. From what
- 7:07Speaker 1: I can see, there were a couple that didn't. I
- 7:10Speaker 1: know that Counselors Marleybanks and Gavin Mowrens voted against the motion.
- 7:15Speaker 1: They also raise concerns that the move could be racially discriminate.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Discriminatory Do you feel as though that could be the case?
- 7:24Speaker 2: So no, I think you know, as I said earlier,
- 7:26Speaker 2: this is not about stopping Aboriginal people or community people
- 7:29Speaker 2: from playing football. They can still come in and play
- 7:32Speaker 2: in the community comp. They can play for the Red
- 7:34Speaker 2: Tails and the Pink Tails, and when that occurs, arrangements
- 7:38Speaker 2: are usually made through the clubs for transport and things
- 7:41Speaker 2: like that. It's well managed. It's quite different with the
- 7:45Speaker 2: community comp and we're saying we all means say the
- 7:48Speaker 2: community comp, but play it in your home community because
- 7:51Speaker 2: it just impacts too much on our springs. So that's
- 7:55Speaker 2: the point. It's not about stopping people. We encourage people
- 7:59Speaker 2: to pay for it. It's really important in terms of
- 8:02Speaker 2: development and other opportunities. But we just need a break
- 8:06Speaker 2: for this year in our springs for the community company much.
- 8:09Speaker 1: How are things going in Alice Springs at the moment?
- 8:12Speaker 1: I mean, has it quietened down a little bitter? Are
- 8:14Speaker 1: you still seeing you know some social issues?
- 8:19Speaker 2: Oh? Look, there's still those social issues are still around.
- 8:23Speaker 2: My sense is that they're not as bad as they were,
- 8:26Speaker 2: that we do get a little bit of respite on
- 8:29Speaker 2: particular days, but of course it's not a filabullet. There
- 8:33Speaker 2: are still significant issues, you know, personally just last week
- 8:39Speaker 2: our office in the CBD got breaken into it, as
- 8:41Speaker 2: did a number of other officers around us. So that's
- 8:46Speaker 2: still pretty frustrating. But you know, council personally, as a counselor,
- 8:52Speaker 2: I'd be more than happy to continue working with all
- 8:54Speaker 2: the stakeholders try and get better outcomes for Ourice Springs
- 8:58Speaker 2: and to change that behavior. It's all about the behavior
- 9:01Speaker 2: that needs to change now and into the future.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Well Mark Coffee, Alice Springstown Counselor, I really appreciate you
- 9:10Speaker 1: having a chat with me today on the show. And look,
- 9:12Speaker 1: I know some people won't agree with the decision that
- 9:14Speaker 1: the Counselor's made, but I think for you to reach
- 9:17Speaker 1: this point where you have made this decision, it sounds
- 9:20Speaker 1: as though quite a bit of thought has gone into
- 9:22Speaker 1: it and that there are some concerns here for the
- 9:25Speaker 1: broader community. So I think it's you know, while it's
- 9:29Speaker 1: a tough decision to make, by the sounds of it,
- 9:31Speaker 1: it has been done really thinking of the goodwill of
- 9:35Speaker 1: everybody around Alice Springs.
- 9:38Speaker 2: Oh definitely, Katie, this is not a quick decision. My
- 9:41Speaker 2: counsel little has raised this in the chamber for two years.
- 9:45Speaker 2: We haven't supported it previously, but I think after thinking
- 9:49Speaker 2: about it long and after weighing up the options and
- 9:52Speaker 2: the benefits and the pros and cons, that we decided
- 9:55Speaker 2: this is the best thing for Alice Springs right now.
- 9:59Speaker 2: You know. Hopefully we can support a community comp into
- 10:02Speaker 2: the future to be played out Bush look at the
- 10:07Speaker 2: town comp to improve that even more, but for now
- 10:09Speaker 2: I think this is what we need well.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Alice Springstown Counselor Mark Coffee, thanks so much for your
- 10:14Speaker 1: time this morning. Very much appreciated.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you