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Best Of Dear Chelsea: Cat and Nat · Dear Chelsea

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  Speaker 1: Hi, Good morning, Catherine, Hello morning. Does everybody want to
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: hear me sing? I don't think so. But I have
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: learned how to dance a little bit. What I've learned
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  Speaker 1: is to just side step to the beat, like just
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  Speaker 1: a two step. I can do that. So I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to do that just for everything, and I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to try to get anything more complicated than that. You
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  Speaker 1: know what, Chelsea, I'm just sorry, Catherine. I just want
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  Speaker 1: everyone to know that I'm drinking room temperature water right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually got a little bit of a coolness to it,
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  Speaker 1: so it's palatable. But this is a real tough pill
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  Speaker 1: for me to swallow.
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  Speaker 2: She does not like the water.
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  Speaker 1: I love my thermis in my car. I love my thermiss.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, shout out to Wellie. They make the
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  Speaker 1: best thermoces. I could put ice in my Wellie bottle
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  Speaker 1: and it's ice three days later.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, can I tell you something. I have made yogurt
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  Speaker 3: in my Wellie bottle.
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  Speaker 1: Before you know what, Catherine, this is not something I
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  Speaker 1: want to hear about. I says, right up, I'm surprised
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  Speaker 1: you didn't say cottage cheese.
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  Speaker 2: I have made my own cheese.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I mean fucking Brad, you're way to bury the lead.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: Being married to Catherine, She's.
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  Speaker 4: Up to no good.
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  Speaker 2: I love fermented foods.
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  Speaker 1: I had a military death on one of my planes
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  Speaker 1: the other day and we stopped and they were transporting
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  Speaker 1: a military bottle body and there were those a whole
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  Speaker 1: ceremony outside the plane with like the military and their family,
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  Speaker 1: which was sad because they were all crying, but it
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  Speaker 1: was really sweet to see that. How they do that. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, wait, I guess the airports aren't
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  Speaker 1: that fucked up if they can swing this like you
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  Speaker 1: know what. I mean. That really had some decorum and
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  Speaker 1: some respect because I don't know what's happening with flights lately,
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  Speaker 1: but something is way.
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  Speaker 3: Of One of my girlfriends got stuck at Burbank Airport
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  Speaker 3: for like all of Christmas Day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh everyone did canceled all their flights. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's been pretty brutal the travel situation. But I guess.
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  Speaker 3: I have to tell you, Chelsea, we have not had
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  Speaker 3: a question in a long time that's had as much
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  Speaker 3: totally varied feedback as Jesse from a weeks ago. She
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: called in and remember we talked to her like all
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  Speaker 3: like the entire episode with Brookshields about her in laws
• 2:08
  Speaker 3: yelling at her on the rafting trip, and then we
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  Speaker 3: kind of got it.
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  Speaker 1: We discovered that out of the calls she seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: she needed to do some work. Yeah, well we discovered
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  Speaker 1: that early on, but we were trying to be respectful before,
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  Speaker 1: at least I was before I told her.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the dishwashing. But we had people emailing and
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  Speaker 3: being like, go get her girls, she did wrong, other
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  Speaker 3: people being like, no, it was totally her in law's
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  Speaker 3: fault for screaming at her, and I just thought it
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  Speaker 3: was really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've gotten damns about this, but
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  Speaker 2: I've gotten a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of noot this I haven't. Yeah, that is interesting, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 3: Well it's very relatable situation, right, Yeah, it's tough with
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  Speaker 3: in laws.
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  Speaker 2: I think nobody doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Get married you don't have to deal with that's another reason, okay,
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  Speaker 1: to put another perk to not being married.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, her family's got some shit to
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  Speaker 3: work out too, because if somebody's screaming at you about
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  Speaker 3: dishes two years later they wanted something to be mad
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  Speaker 3: at you about, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's a really kind of icky thing
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  Speaker 1: to do. If you're at someone's house and you make
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  Speaker 1: a habit of nobody's supposed to ask you to help
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  Speaker 1: at someone else's house, Like, it's not the onus is
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  Speaker 1: not on them.
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  Speaker 2: You jump in.
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  Speaker 1: You got it? Even I do it, and not even I,
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  Speaker 1: because like I'm someone special, even I who doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: how to wash dishes, I shouldn't be washing dishes. It's
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  Speaker 1: worse when I do it. Yeah, I always get up
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  Speaker 1: and try. Yeah, I try to make an effort because
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  Speaker 1: it's manners. I mean, it's pretty basic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But people were up in arms about Jesse.
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  Speaker 1: Real people were up in arms once when I did
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  Speaker 1: some poll about toilet paper whether it should be upside
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  Speaker 1: down coming from them or coming from the top or
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: I was on the Drew Barrymore Show and we were
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: doing something and it was the biggest thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there were like fifteen thousand comments about people's opinions. And
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  Speaker 1: I finally figured out that I prefer, because I had
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  Speaker 1: never thought about it before, prefer it from the bottom,
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  Speaker 1: you do.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want it from the top, top down?
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  Speaker 1: Oh you do.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting, We're just different in every way, Chelsea.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so far, we have not found one similarity
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  Speaker 1: except that we both are on this podcast. It's accurate,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we all in common.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Chelsea, today we have some really exciting guests.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, great, I can't wait. I can't wait to find
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  Speaker 1: out who they are today. Yeah, we have my two
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  Speaker 1: Canadian mom friends, Kat and Nat. These girls are two
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  Speaker 1: hot fucking messes and I'm excited to have them on
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  Speaker 1: because they're besties. And then they tore around well, they
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  Speaker 1: tour around America too, at Canada, and they both have
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of children and they talk a lot about motherhood,
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  Speaker 1: parenting and I don't know what who turned me on
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  Speaker 1: to them, but we're buddies now.
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  Speaker 2: They have seven kids between them.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's better than me having them. Are you guys
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  Speaker 1: ride sharing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? You know, we always. She doesn't drive. She has
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  Speaker 4: a car and a license, but she won't drive. I
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  Speaker 4: don't drive in the highway, just in the city, only
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  Speaker 4: a few.
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  Speaker 1: Streets the city or the suburb.
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  Speaker 4: No, we're in the city.
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  Speaker 5: I like the city because it's short streets, lots of lights,
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  Speaker 5: like everything's really fast and quick. But if you go
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  Speaker 5: to the suburbs, you have to take the highway. I
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  Speaker 5: don't go there.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this is Cat, I mean, this is sorry, this
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  Speaker 1: is Catherine. Hi, and this is Cat and this is no.
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  Speaker 1: Well wait you Cat, Nat and.
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  Speaker 4: Nat doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I basically just call them both Cat.
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  Speaker 2: We can all three be Cat today.
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  Speaker 6: When they meet us, they're say your Cat and Nat,
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  Speaker 6: even if we're not together.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, Oh, I love you Cat and Nat. That's it.
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  Speaker 6: So it's literally, it's it's totally fine. I mean, look
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  Speaker 6: at us. I want to be confused too.
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  Speaker 1: I know it is very confusing because you guys do
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  Speaker 1: really look a lot alike, but only from hanging out
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  Speaker 1: with you. I know that Cat is more of like
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  Speaker 1: a busy body, and Nat is a little bit lazier.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she loves to vertically. I am no, horizontally.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want to. They went on tour. Okay, let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about the jet assist of you guys, so that
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: I want Catherine to be as familiar with me because
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  Speaker 1: I don't even remember how I met you too. I
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  Speaker 1: just know that we are friends now. But explain to Catherine,
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  Speaker 1: explain the genesis of everything that you two do. You
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  Speaker 1: guys went on tour as mothers basically right, you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about mother all the time on your Instagram and how
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  Speaker 1: nuts it is.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, it was a joke.
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  Speaker 6: We decided to do a show as a joke because
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  Speaker 6: no one invites us anywhere. So we were like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: we'll make a party and we our first show.
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  Speaker 4: You guys.
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  Speaker 6: We threw for free, gave free drinks and free appetizers
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  Speaker 6: for everybody. We wanted to host a party. We didn't
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  Speaker 6: pay for it.
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  Speaker 4: We found people to like sponsor it.
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  Speaker 6: So we host a party in a theater and then
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  Speaker 6: we go out to like go have a cocktail party
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  Speaker 6: with everyone, and they mault like we get mauled. We
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  Speaker 6: were like, oh, we were just here to hang out
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  Speaker 6: and we couldn't get through the crowd. The security guard
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  Speaker 6: basically took us and pulled us back inside. I was like,
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  Speaker 6: that was weird.
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  Speaker 5: That was like, we just need an excuse to get
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  Speaker 5: away from the seven kids and go and have a party.
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  Speaker 5: And for our party, we wanted a dj, we wanted strippers,
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  Speaker 5: we wanted flamenco dancers, we wanted dancing, we wanted drinking,
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  Speaker 5: We want a champagne. So we just created a party
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  Speaker 5: and then started selling tickets to it.
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  Speaker 6: And then our agents were like, Okay, if you can
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  Speaker 6: sell out like three more theaters, we'll talk about it
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  Speaker 6: to our moment, okay, just kind of all came together.
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  Speaker 6: We had a podcast, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: We wrote a couple of books, and then Chelsea once
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  Speaker 5: like commented on our Instagram and we died and the
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  Speaker 5: people were text us you see the Chelsea's oh my god.
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  Speaker 6: That I don't want to actually talk to her, like
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  Speaker 6: I didn't want to. I'm like, don't say yes to
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  Speaker 6: our podcast because that's pressure. And then because you're like
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  Speaker 6: a real you're funny, We're I was funny and famous
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  Speaker 6: or not us her and then it was more like
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  Speaker 6: we're just shit shows and people liked that.
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  Speaker 5: And now we've seen Chelsea three times this year. One
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  Speaker 5: we came to your show in Toronto. Two you met
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  Speaker 5: us at the Sofa hus three were seeing you right now.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you guys live? And you live in Toron,
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  Speaker 1: so so everyone knows they're Canadian? Yeah, but they tour
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  Speaker 1: in America. So what was your agent for before you
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  Speaker 1: decided to start? How did you even have an agent?
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  Speaker 6: She emailed every person at WME and just said, you
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  Speaker 6: know what, we're had in that and we need someone
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  Speaker 6: to help us with deals, and they said, yes, it
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  Speaker 6: was so.
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  Speaker 4: Weird, but we did. We were doing like we were
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  Speaker 4: doing videos.
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  Speaker 5: We were doing the mom Troops videos and those were
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  Speaker 5: videos in the car just like talking about what it's
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  Speaker 5: like to be a mom.
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  Speaker 4: We were doing what else did we do?
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  Speaker 1: But not glorifying what it's like to be a mom. No,
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  Speaker 1: they's all about how hard it is to be a mom,
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  Speaker 1: just how demanding it is and all the disappointments and
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  Speaker 1: that you're not going to win all the time, and
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of failures and you're
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: going to feel like a failure and that all of
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  Speaker 1: that is fine.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's exactly how we felt when we first
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  Speaker 5: had our babies. We were just like, we thought this
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  Speaker 5: was going to be so beautiful and it's actually not,
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  Speaker 5: and nobody's talking about it. So let's just start doing
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  Speaker 5: some videos. Because a lot of moms were like blogging
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  Speaker 5: at the time, and we weren't going to sit down
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  Speaker 5: and write, so we did videos. No one was doing videos.
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  Speaker 5: Social media wasn't really a thing. And then everything just
• 8:57
  Speaker 5: came at the same time. Like we had been doing
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  Speaker 5: live streaming through YouTube and the Facebook Live came, so
• 9:01
  Speaker 5: we turned it to Facebook Live. It's been a lot
• 9:04
  Speaker 5: of like chance and opportunity and saying yes, you know,
• 9:07
  Speaker 5: we were We went to a conference that we had
• 9:09
  Speaker 5: really no idea. We just kind of decided to go
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  Speaker 5: and the Today Show was there and two producers they
• 9:15
  Speaker 5: found us walking in a hallway and they asked us
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  Speaker 5: a question and then they were like, wait, will you
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  Speaker 5: two come with us here? I'm like, yeah, sure, and
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  Speaker 5: then we just went with them. And then it's actually.
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  Speaker 6: Been a lot of women who because we really are
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  Speaker 6: naive in this world of what we've been doing, and
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  Speaker 6: it's really been women like you Chelsea and like the
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  Speaker 6: Today Show, and people have just said like yes.
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  Speaker 4: And they've they've just helped us.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, when you open a door, like even
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  Speaker 6: when you comment, that's what people see and they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: she's looking at them. That means that they're worthy of
• 9:46
  Speaker 6: me looking at them. Unfortunately, it's sort of the way
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  Speaker 6: it looks. And even when you don't think you're opening doors,
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  Speaker 6: kindness goes so far and you you personally have opened
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  Speaker 6: a ton of doors for us, and we know people
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  Speaker 6: say yes because you've said yes.
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  Speaker 4: So I just think, you know, I see like.
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  Speaker 5: Amy Schumer now comments and follows us, and I'm pretty
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  Speaker 5: sure that that's probably because she saw you, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean, that you did so that she.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of took notice enough.
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  Speaker 6: I just think a lot of women have been so
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  Speaker 6: impactful in ways they don't know for us, because it's
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  Speaker 6: really a lot of yeses. That's all we've really done
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  Speaker 6: and stumbled and failed and gotten up, and some shows
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  Speaker 6: are do shit and terrible and you're like, oh, that's
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  Speaker 6: not my demo. But you can't let that hurt your
• 10:25
  Speaker 6: ego because we don't knock it out of every city.
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  Speaker 6: But we figure out, we regroup, and we go back
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  Speaker 6: to the place, you know what I mean. It's always
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  Speaker 6: reverse correct, reverse correct.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of like that.
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  Speaker 1: And what would you say that you feel like, thus far,
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  Speaker 1: your biggest impact has been for other mothers.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's like for women too.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we have a lot of young people who
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  Speaker 6: follow us, like fifteen year old's, fourteen year olds who
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  Speaker 6: wait in the parking lot after the show and sneak
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  Speaker 6: into our shows to come see us. And I think
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  Speaker 6: that right now it's our friendship for a lot of
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  Speaker 6: people that brings the hope and that they find comfort
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  Speaker 6: in our friendship even more than motherhood.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true, because that's honestly, that's what attracted
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  Speaker 1: to me, to you, to the bestie vibe. I always
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  Speaker 1: love bestie dynamic.
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  Speaker 6: And I feel like we fuck up constantly, but we
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  Speaker 6: pick each other up and it's because we may have
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  Speaker 6: each other we can do what we do.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that our friendship is really.
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  Speaker 5: And the young people are on TikTok, like if this
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  Speaker 5: isn't us when older than I don't, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't want to be.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's sort of this weird.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you don't have to give up your best
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  Speaker 6: friend because you're an adult, and I think that's what
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  Speaker 6: a lot of people think.
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  Speaker 4: You have to grow up and lose your friendship.
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  Speaker 1: No, you just have to time your babies and families
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  Speaker 1: together so that you're both on the same track. Because
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  Speaker 1: I was asking them about their other friendships independent of
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  Speaker 1: their own, because you both have separate groups of friends
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  Speaker 1: that don't necessarily cross over to your.
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  Speaker 2: Cat or net.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we have separate friendships.
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  Speaker 6: We for sure planned a bunch of them though, like
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  Speaker 6: we're like, don't you can't pull out, you know what
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Like you're not pulling friends, but it's like.
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  Speaker 4: You are staying in there. We planned the babies before
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  Speaker 4: husbands had any idea what was happening.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like your husbands are both just so inconsequential
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  Speaker 1: in this dynamic. It's you know, I feel sad for them,
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  Speaker 1: but I also feel like, you know, good.
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  Speaker 4: They travel, they take care of the kids, they're not one.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah it's pick up time right now, and they check
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  Speaker 6: off they're not working so they can pick up the kids.
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  Speaker 4: So they are also a huge reason.
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  Speaker 6: They support our friendship and what we do, so we
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  Speaker 6: are very They're not just sperm, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well sure, sure we'll agree on that. Also, they
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: travel on a tour bus and I don't sleep in
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: the same bed because they don't. They're not down with that.
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  Speaker 1: But that's more NAT than KAT right from what I remember.
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  Speaker 1: Would you two sleep together, I would sleep in a
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  Speaker 1: bed with anybody. I have no problems with that. I
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I prefer well not if we're sleeping together.
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  Speaker 1: You won't this one over here, Fuck, you're gonna snuggle me?
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  Speaker 1: My one friend I have one friend who always wants
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  Speaker 1: to sleep holding hands, So I had to kick her
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  Speaker 1: out of it. I go, you know what, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: holding hands with you all that I was down to
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  Speaker 1: sleep with you. She slept over my house the other
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  Speaker 1: night and we woke up in the morning and there's
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  Speaker 1: plenty of rooms for her to sleep in. And she
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: got up in the morning and she goes, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: touch you. I didn't touch you. I'm like, yeah, that's
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is supposed to happen. Can't sleep with
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  Speaker 1: me if you're gonna fucking hold my ann you're not
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  Speaker 1: my boyfriend, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Well, honestly, we always say, like, we have tried to
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  Speaker 4: teach these seven kids to sleep independently on their own,
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  Speaker 4: and then finally they learned how to sleep on their own,
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  Speaker 4: and then you get your relationship, and now you're supposed
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  Speaker 4: to share a bed again, Like it just doesn't make
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  Speaker 4: sense for the way that we have learned how to sleep.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean she does it too. We build
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  Speaker 4: a wall.
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  Speaker 5: Between our husbands of pillows, and I don't want like,
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  Speaker 5: maybe his feet might creep over like a hand my
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  Speaker 5: cream over, but that's not gonna happen Between the two
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  Speaker 5: of us independent sleeping, like like if I can.
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  Speaker 6: Have my own bed, I haven't had in my own
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  Speaker 6: bed in a long time. Like someone's in you, on
• 13:38
  Speaker 6: you or wants to get in you at all times.
• 13:40
  Speaker 6: So you're like when you get your own bed, it's
• 13:42
  Speaker 6: like that's amazing.
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: Sare heaven.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: So you want like Lucy and Ricky style, like two
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: beds in the bedroom.
• 13:48
  Speaker 6: So sometimes people will fly us out and we'll get
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: us two rooms, and then we get to the hotel
• 13:53
  Speaker 6: where like can we only use one room with two beds?
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: Like can we change that king to too?
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: That's the ultimate for all sleeping is to be in
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: the same room or the same house with a big group.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: But everyone has their own privacy.
• 14:06
  Speaker 6: Catherine, Why did Lucy and Ricky sleep in separate beds?
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it wasn't allowed for them to have
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: one bed.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: Well, no, that was in that time era, like people
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: did that, people had separate sleeping arrangements. I'm not sure.
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: I guess why did that change?
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't know.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: They were married, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, they made little
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: Ricky so because they were fucking smarter than us, I guess.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what that's what needs to come back
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: in style if it should be retroactive. I think everyone
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: who has a child. I don't even have a child,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: and I feel that way, but anyone who has a
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: child is definitely on board for separate beds.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: Is your dog with you?
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want them to, but they even reject me.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: They don't want to say in the bed all night.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: I have to leave the little doggy steps. So Bernice
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: will like humor me. She's like, oh, here we go.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: You know, she thinks I'm like assaulting her, so she
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: goes to her safe spot while I assault her, and
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: then I put her under the covers, like like we're
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: gonna do it. And I noticed that if I have
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: the confidence of her not leaving, she will remain. It's
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: when I look at her and like, you know, and
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about her leaving. Is when she leaves so
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: she can get five.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: With your insecurity.
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: And Burt has basically turned into some sort of limp biscuit,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: so I can't. He's not getting into my bed because
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: he's frail now, so I have to respect that. No
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: more abuse, even though he's probably got that way from
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: my abuse anyway. So let's talk a little bit about
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: your friendship. Okay, we've talked about it before when you
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: guys interviewed me, but I think it's inspiring for a
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: lot of people that will be listening how your friendship
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: works and what the benefits to each of your lives
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: are by having such a close, fun, work friend relationship, Kat,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: why don't you start?
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: I think for us it will.
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: Number one, It allows you to take sort of more
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: risks because when there's two of you losing and failing,
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: it's a lot, it's funnier and it's a lot easier
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: than when it's one of you. And I think that
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: when you're both in it together, there's no everything feels
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: fun that we do. There's nothing.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: We could be on a delay on an airplane for
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: twelve hours and.
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: It's fun like it just the stakes just feel different
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: because everything's kind of a joke and in a way
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: that when parenting is going to shit, we call each
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: other and thank god, it often doesn't go to shit
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: at the same time, or when your relationship's not great
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: and you always have someone to share everything with because
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: you're so intimate with them, but you don't have sex
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: with them, that it's like this weird.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: We're not transactional.
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: We're so tight that when you know when someone's going
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: through something, they don't have to see it. The other
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: one can just pick up the work slack, knowing that
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: that one needs that, and vice versa.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: So it's this weird.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: I think we get double done because there's two of
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: us versus one of us, and there's no If we
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: failed and lost everything tomorrow, I would be okay because
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: our ride has been so much fun and we would
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: still have each other and we'd probably figure out something
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: else to do in a different capacity. But this wouldn't change.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: And I think that's the coolest thing about our friendship.
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: It's friendship first and then fun and then work.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and what about you, Nat, I want you to
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: speak up.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: This is going to be hard for her. She doesn't
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: do feeling.
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: That's why you're going second, she got inspired.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: She told me recently why I love her.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: We were on a plane and we were talking about
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: love and what love is and why she loves me
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: and I love her, and she basically told me I
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: love her because she.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: Does things for me like drive me around and like.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: Sure she stays book her plane tickets you know her life.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: But I was like, I think it's more than that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: But maybe that's all it is.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: It's been fourteen years of being moms together, and there
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: has been so many hard times.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: It hasn't all been like he ty keen.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: We've had a post part of anxiety, We've had sickness,
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: we've had so many things. But being able to rely
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: on your friend too, like she said, pick up when
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: the other one can't.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: But also, like my kids say to me, you are
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: so lucky.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: You get to go to work every day with your
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: best friend and there's no boss, right, we're equal bosses,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: so we don't have to go into work, have a boss,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: go to work all day with a bunch of like
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: weirdos or strangers.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: It's just us and everything we get to do is fun.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: I do remind them that what we do is work,
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: and we work hard together, but we work together really
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: well because we know each other so well.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: But yeah, we get to just have fun.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: And also it's really great that our children get to
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: have sort of like a second mother so that when
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: like our siblings, our seventh which is my baby, my
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: baby's the seventh, but our seventh is so ferocious because
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: she's had to have like seven.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Above her, like she's grown up with six siblings. Essentially,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: she's ferocious.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I'm the youngest of six, so I know exactly what
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you're talking.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Ferious.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: Our two babies are ferocious, and I just think they're
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: so lucky that they always have a built in tribe.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Like you know, I'm sure you feel it like when
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: you have a lot of people around you. It's like
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: this built in little thing that you get bumpers around you.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: And we take them on vacation together and we spend
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: summers together.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: And us walking on the plane, eleven of us, seven
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: children and the two of us walking onto a plane, Everyone's.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Like, oh, my daughter has billed a hot cup of
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: noodles on two different men on two different planes their pants.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Oh god, oh how humiliating.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: She offered him candy as like an apology, and we
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: left the two girls like, mom, we still I don't
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: know who you are.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: You deal with this man, and that's when you fan out,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: fan out to get away from your children. You don't
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: want to be seen with them. And do you guys
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: have similar parenting styles? Are you guys like agree on
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the way you parent or you do differ in that way.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: We like parent each other's children differently, Like her kids
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: will come to me for some things, and my kids will.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Go to her for things. Like we definitely have different personalities.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Our mothers mothered us differently, but overall I respect totally
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: the way that she does it, and she respects the
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: way that I do it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: We go to each other for different devices, like she
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: has experts and I have expertise, and then we blend.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: And what do you think your strong suit is? Your
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: strong parenting suit is?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Kat?
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: God, that's so serious. You know. I'm like the talker.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: So they'll call me, like yesterday, she's like, Mom, we're
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: going through some anxiety.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Can you walk us through these.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: Feelings that we're in the car and we are kids
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: in the car. I'm like, yeah, let's go here we go?
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: Oh Kat, I'm like, I don't know where we go
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: when we die? Like I do the sex like I'm
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: the sex conversation. I land the plane. You know, I'm like,
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: if you don't know about a boner by grade two,
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: we're screwed. So like, I'm like boner penis vagina. People
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: do it for fun and for babies. We sit them
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: all down and lay it out and not as strong suits.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: She's the one who's like, let's get up on the
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: couch and the tables and dance. We bring the fun
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: and I'm the combo. She's the person who's like the
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: party starter, like always yes, can we have a bag
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: of candy?
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Yes? Can we go here? Yes? Yeah?
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: But I'm not I'm not there to talk talk about No,
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: They'll all call me and I'm like, let's talk.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, I see, I see, yeah, I understand that. I
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: get that from you too.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: And then I have to because we share a bank
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: account and a credit card, so we all all of
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: our money goes into one account, the two of us.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: You are married, you guys, you guys co mingle your funds.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Yes, but like we have other like the funds with
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: the husbands and that's where everything's in. No look at
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: the budget. But with us that we didn't even know
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: for the first few years, and we had to pay taxes.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: We had the most amazing first couple of years until
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: we found out about all that. They're basically like, you're
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: broke and you start fresh, and we're like shit, but
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: we always just like we like to spend money, and
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: you want something, I'm like, let's go get it, and
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: then we just go buy it out of the time.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that you have a bank
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: account together. That is so ridiculous.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: We changed our.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Wedding and our engagement rings to different styles together.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I just told you ten minutes ago that your husbands
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: are inconsequential and you disagree with me, and you're just
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: proving my point. Everything you're saying is supporting what I
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: said ten minutes earlier. So yeah, they're very valuable. Thank
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: God for those times, Thank God for them. Well, we
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: tried to curate your episode today, ladies. Yes, Catherine is
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: very good at curating towards you know, the guests that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: we have on to the callers, so that you're going
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: to be of some help since I know that Nat
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: is into talk therapy and she's going to be really
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: valuable in conversations. Yeah, no, kay not we'll not go
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to therapy, but you probably still have some good advice
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that you can show with a.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Social worker to this long show, like yeah.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: You were not social worker before you.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, Well, we're gonna take a quick break and then
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: we'll be back and we'll take some callers and some emails.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're taking a break and we're back. We're back,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: We're back.
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Our first email comes from a mom who is going
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: by tired af Dear Chelsea. I'm a twenty six year
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: old mom of four, two of which I had eight
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: months ago, twin girls. One of them is so chill,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: only cries when she needs something, and an all around
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: normal baby. The other one is exhausting. In her defense,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: she does have collics, some stomach problems, and she's currently teething,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: but she literally never stops crying since she was born.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: She's crying like fifty percent of every day. I have
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: a four year old and a two year old who
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: also do their fair share of crying, and it gets
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: to me. I find myself thinking about how nice it
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: would be if she could be more like her twin sister.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: She's the easiest baby I've ever cared for, and I'm
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: the oldest of ten, so I've had my fair share
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: of experiences with babies. My question to you is, how
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: do I not play favorites with the twins when they're
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: so obviously is one. I of course love them both equally,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: but let's be honest, I'm scared this might carry into
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: the future and become a problem when they get older
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: and start to realize the vibe. But it's so hard
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: to keep it together with everything going on? What do
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I do about having a favorite? Sincerely tired AF.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I can't even believe that she had the time to
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: write that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Like that sounds like such a shit show over there.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, she's twenty six years old, like her brain
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: just got fully developed a year ago.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Yet that just now, that is crazy And the only
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: thing I could think of is I have four kids
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: as well. I did not have four kids at twenty six.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: I did not have nine siblings. But there is times
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: in the cycle of our children that there is a favorite.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: And absolutely that quiet baby is going to be the
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: favorite because it's giving the least problems. But my quietest
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: ones a year later are the hardest ones. And people
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: always ask us, do you have a favorite? I'm like,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: it depends on the day. So I'm pretty sure that
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: quiet little one isn't going to be your favorite forever.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: That one's a terrible teenager, that one's going to come
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: out of nowhere.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you never get nothing, nothing, Scott Free, No one's
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: good for life.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: You know, your quiet baby's going to be a pregnant,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: pregnant drug addict by fourteen.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I so enjoy the time that you have
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: them as your favorite. Because I've talked to a lot
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: of men about this, because I know women's answer is
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: pretty kind of what you guys are saying. I always
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: get an interesting answer. Men have consistently said, whichever child
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: needs me the most is their favorite. Huh. And that
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: changes all the time too, So it's kind of like
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: the opposite of what this woman is going through. So
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I think I don't think it's a new sure to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: have a favorite. My mom said the same thing all
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the time. It's just like depends on what day of
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the week you ask me, totally. Yeah, And whoever's the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: easiest to deal with is obviously, So don't feel guilty
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: about that. You're not alone at all, No.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: And just you know, I'm just thinking about Kat's family
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: and my family, and we both know who our mom's
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: favorite is.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: And it's your brother. Yeah, I guess, And I'm fine
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: with that. And she does.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: Natalie here does happen to have one child blown up
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: in giant Life's like giant on the wall for many years,
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: just one of them and she has four kids, but
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: one made the wall.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: He's so big. He's honestly the most photochemic, so it
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: was huge.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: You walked in, it was a portrait of him. Everyone's like,
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: isn't that wrong? And I'm like, listen, we had a
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: photo shoot and one kid nailed it. He's a huge
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: picture on the wall.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: That was it. He got good luck next time.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: That's funny. I always say that's my family. I'm like,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: it's just because I'm the best looking one. You guys,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why everything's working out the way it has.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: This was about this world's about looks, and I got
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: them so back up and I asked, how that's.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: How she feels. Oh my gosh.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Everybody although he is a little on the short side
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: compared to everybody else, so.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: He needed the wall, if you will, we needed to
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: start early.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I like all the reasoning behind the big
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: picture on the wall. So far, I'm totally on board
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: with this. That's actually a good way to keep kids
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: in check. If you have three or more, totally blow
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: one up and put it on the wall and be like,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: guess who the favorite of the month is. Everybody needs
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: to step their fucking game up.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, yay, you are you are onto something favorite.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: It's like the employee of the month.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, you are. Needs incentivization children. You know how when
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you went to sleep away camp. I went to the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: sleep away camp. Well, no, my parents couldn't afford sleepway camp,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: so they sent me to this day camp. And every
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: day as somebody would get like best swimmer or best
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: finger blaster or whatever you do. And it felt even
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: though I saw everyone every day get an award as
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: a kid, it felt so good to get the ord.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: You know, it feels so good. And that's I mean,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: who doesn't like that that Pavlovian you know response and record? Yeah,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I think everybody listening I just gave you.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I mean it just came out and I think it's awesome. Yeah,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: it's a great way to take everybody together.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: And if you have braces, you just have to wait
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: to get those off to hit the wall.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: No, I think it. I disagree, Nat, I disagree. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: think sometimes just like kids with braces are the best,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and they should be given they're due right, not just
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: based It shouldn't be based on looks. It should be
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: based on who's the best kid that month, who had
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the best behavior, you know what I mean? Okay, fair
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: or best grades or whatever. However you want to categorize,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it is up to you.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: And then when they're teenagers and they hate you and
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: they're embarrassed by everything, you put their picture on the
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: wall until they're good, and then you can take it down.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my gosh, I love that.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, humiliation.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: There's probably gonna be an age where they don't want
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: their picture on the wall, So then you have to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: like restrategize.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: Then you put yourself up, but you put a nude up,
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: you know, you don't embarrass Yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Going out, you know, mommy and daddy in their boudoir shop.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or you just make it. Yeah, that's good to
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: threaten them with. Like you're going to do a lot
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of public displays of affection with your husband. That's also
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a good threat. Yeah, write that book hot parenting tips.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: So our next caller, and this was her telling it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: They're going to be on a zoom So girls, okay, yes,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: be ready. It's a little juicy, Veronica says, dear Chelsea.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: The situation I'm in is quite a doozy for the
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: last six months. I was really unhappy in my relationship
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: of five years, and after talking to my therapist a
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: few months ago, I decided that it would be best
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: to end the relationship. As I started emotionally checking out,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I started flirting with his cousin that also happened to
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: be our roommate. For reference, I'm twenty five, my axes
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: twenty six, and his cousin is twenty nine. The three
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: of us were very close and would do a lot together,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: and I saw the cousin as a really good friend.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: After flirting, sneaking some kisses, and can professing love to
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: each other at the house, I couldn't take the guilt
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: and ended my relationship, then promptly moved out. After giving
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: myself some time to adjust and making sure my feelings
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: for his cousin were real, we decided to start seeing
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: each other. Things were going really well, but now he's
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: started to get very upset about how much this would
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: hurt his cousin and how he hates having to keep
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: our relationship a secret. I've told him multiple times that
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: you can't help who you fall for, and that together
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: we can make it work. But I still have the
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: fear that this is all going to blow up. I
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: don't know if just coming clean about everything would be
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: a good idea, or if we should wait a few
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: more months to give their family more time to get
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: over the breakup. My biggest concern is his family hating
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: him and exiling him over me. But I'm truly so
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: in love with him, and if he says we can
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: make it work, I want to believe him.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Help. I don't even know where to start. Veronica, Hi there.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Hi, Hi, hiiio. How are you guys? Good? Our special
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: guest today, our cat and Nat and so they're here today,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and you have Catherine, so you have four of us.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, I need all the advice I can get.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I know, I know you do need advice. So you
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: were dating your previous boyfriend for how long?
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Five years?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And you've been broken up for how long?
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Going on close at ten months?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Now, Okay, okay, So this is going to be a
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: problem for a lot of people. But yeah, yeah, so
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I get it. I mean it's pretty tricky. Their family
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: is going to be upset. Somebody is going to be upset.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I think. So, yeah, I would say that's a safe bet.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: And is your boyfriend, your current boyfriend, who is your
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: ex boyfriend's cousin. Is he contemplating your relationship at all
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: or is he committed?
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: No, he has committed one hundred percent.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you're both done, You're going to be together,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and you're going to tell his family at some.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Point, right, Yeah, it's just a matter of when.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I guess I'll go first, and then you
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: girls can to hop on and give your opinion. I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: would just say, the sooner you come clean, the sooner
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: everybody can acclimate to the new situation, and the sooner
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: everybody has to stop hiding. But be prepared for a
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: big thunderstorm that's gonna last for a long time, possibly potentially.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: But I think you should probably try and get the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: truth out sooner than later, and then, you know, the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: sooner everyone can get over it.
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: And it should be you.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be the boyfriend, It should be your family, Yeah,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: you should be your boyfriend.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know who should tell the boyfriend. Maybe who
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: should tell the boyfriend?
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I mean who are you going to tell first? The boyfriend?
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Your ex?
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty tricky. What do you girls think? What
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: does everyone think?
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Do they have to know that you work together when
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: they all were together?
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: Does that all have to come out? So that's another topic.
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: We kind of agreed to never say that anything started
• 31:59
  Speaker 11: while the previous relationship was going on, but we think
• 32:04
  Speaker 11: that it would be really obvious that things would start
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: to click once the truth came out.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: So yeah, like my initial lie, like, wait a few
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: months and then act like you guys ran into each
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: other and it was so nice to see each other
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: again and things started.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: But that's when people always see. The truth always.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Freaking comes out, and then you're gonna have to not
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: only face that you're dating him, but now the lies
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: and all of the tears thing.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Vernica, it's never going to get easier, So waiting longer
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: is not gonna make it easier. So freaking rip it
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: and just be like, we're dating, we're in love, we're happy.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Is the family understanding people? Are they wild? Are we
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: gonna flip tables?
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Pretty understanding people?
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Oh well, it's a good start, right, I mean, did
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: you break up?
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Was he heartbroken? Does he have your act and heartbroken?
• 32:55
  Speaker 11: I would say yes, he was very shocked and surprised.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Does he have new lady? Not yet? Hook him up.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: We got to get him a new lady, and you
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: want that.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: He's completely over you and so in love that he
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: doesn't care what's going on.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: It would be great if you could wait until he
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: has a girlfriend.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: That would be good.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Serious, then you won't care as much because it's just
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: going to be a shit show. You're It's exactly right.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: The truth is gonna come out. They're gonna piece it
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: all together. And if you admit that you guys how
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: are flirting while you were with him, then that he's
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: never going to forgive you. He's going to hold on
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: to that for years, and that's just such bad news. Like,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I wish you could just find a lie.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Was there kind of some overlap there?
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I know you said there were some stolen kisses, but like,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: was there like sex overlap?
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: No?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: No, no, no no, no, that's ken Yeah, good for you.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Don't say it, Yeah, just say there was flirting. Yeah, flirted,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and we knew that was wrong and I that's why
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I broke up with you and the cousin, and I
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: knew it was wrong. And obviously, don't volunteer that there
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: were any kisses. If he asked anything happen? What you
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: take that as sex. No, No, we didn't have sex.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that while we were dating.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think you should admit the kissing behind the
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: sneaking kisses. I don't like that, and I'm advocating for
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you to lie.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those details might just hurt more than I to.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Know everything exactly.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: You guys can play it off like you've been dating
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: for a few months because you I mean what you
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: said you did, which is moving out, giving yourself some
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: space to like figure out if this was really real.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Turns out it was ten months, you know what I mean.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: You did a lot of the right things. You stopped
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: it when it was going a certain direction. And I think,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: you know, having some white lives in there about not
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: having physical intimacy, I think that's just fine too.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so nice that you're so in love.
• 34:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's very refreshing compared to the last five years.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: So well, don't fucking say that.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: I don't tell him that, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, But
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: you know, you and your new boyfriend, if you can
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: weather this storm that you're going to about to get
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: into and listen, maybe it's not going to be a
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: big deal that would be ideal.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: But I mean, it probably will be a big deal.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: You know, people like to get.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: His brother, you know, it could have been his brother.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: At least it's just a cousin.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good thing to bring up. Say,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: at least I wasn't fucking your father, right, See how
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: he likes that.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: I just say, it's you know better or your mother.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: What if I was fucking your mother, that would be
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: a real shocker, you know, that would be a double whammy.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you really got to see that. This is the
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: best case scenario. I feel like it is a bit
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: removed from your family. Yeah, not immediate I didn't go
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: for immediate family.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And I think also you have to be
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: very once this is out, be very sensitive to the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: fact that people are going to have like their little
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: feelings about it, and then that will just eventually fade out. Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: Just the family probably doesn't like the cousin that much.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: You always talks about cousins, you know.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: What I mean.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: It might not even be that close. So maybe you're
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: in a great place.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: And get a dan a test. Maybe they're not even cousins,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you know, Oh my gosh. A lot of surprises at
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: them something that really is true. It is. Yeah, I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: get your twenty three and me, I bet you who knows?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Who knows?
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Wow, things really took a churn for a positive here. Yeah.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: But also like it's been ten months, hopefully it won't
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: be a big deal, right, it's been a while.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, make sure you let
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: us know what happens. Okay, I'm very I'm very still,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and let us know when it happens. What happens, Yeah,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: call us back.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'll give you all the juicy details.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, perfect, Okay, good luck with that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's awesome. That's gonna be one fucked up situation.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Holy shit, I'm sorry heal.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: The vibes from that family. Just by talking to her.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I know it's going to go badly.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: The ancestors are gonna be pissed. We have another caller, gals.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: This is Emily. Emily is forty six, She says, HI,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: favorite podcast. I left an abusive marriage in two thousand
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: and seven. In two thousand and eight, I met a
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: guy who, fourteen years later, is still around. When we
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: got together, we bonded over our terrible marriages, and we
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: had kids, so our relationship became our private island. We
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: communicate well and became great travel buddies. We don't live
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: together and our kids are grown. I love my me time,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: and so I'm on the fence about living together. When
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I think about getting older and having a partner to
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: help me with things that happen when you get old,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: like falling or getting sick, it seems like a good idea.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: He just says maybe someday. Someday is fine. I'm a
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: weed smoker and super happy just to be living and
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: somewhat successful. I was once anxious and now moved to
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: a secure attachment style person, been in therapy since I
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: was a teen. I have so much life left to live,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: and it would be easy to let another fifteen years
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: pass just as we are. He's still in my life,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: but recently the relationship's been sort of fizzling. We're still
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: in contact, but not really together. Is it worth sticking
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: it out another couple of years or have we peaked
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: already and it's time to move on. I'm such an
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: easy going person. I'm worried I'm going to let life
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: pass me by. I find myself asking after fourteen years
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: together and not cohabitating. Should I be asking for more? Sincerely, Emily.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Hi, Emily, Hey, this is Kat and nat Are who
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: are special guests today. They're from Canada.
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Hey, put is very legal here.
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: Oh nice? Perfect?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: And you know Catherine because you probably spoke to her already.
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: She's amazing.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, So you've been with your partner for fourteen years
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: and you say you're independent, but then you say that
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: you want to move in together. So it's a little confusing.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Which one do you want?
• 38:46
  Speaker 10: Okay, So it's a little confusing of a situation. We
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: did break up. It's sort of run its course. This
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: has been going on for a long time. But I
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: kind of like I'm growing up. I guess I think
• 38:58
  Speaker 10: I finally became an adult share kind of thing where
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: the same things we used to do, like he would
• 39:04
  Speaker 10: come over and we would hang out, we'd smoke, we
• 39:06
  Speaker 10: were you know, this great, perfect private island situation. And
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: then after it got old, it just, you know, it
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: kind of I got busy.
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: I like to do things outside.
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: He doesn't, and so I stopped doing all the things
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: that I would do to get ready to hang out
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: with him. And to me, that was a sign that
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: I shouldn't continue this. I should at least think about
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: what I need at this.
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: Point in my life. Now, I love him, we get
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: along great.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Sounds like you're describing your brother or your best friend.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Like it's the excitement is gone. It's over, so move
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: on and you need to find something else. You have
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: to be excited about the person that you are fucking.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: You have to be excited and want to look good
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: from when they come over and look in the mirror
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: and actually care about what you look like. I know
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: that after fourteen years that's not typical, but so great.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: You're not married to him, you have no reason to
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: hang on to this. You can move on and use
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: him as like you know, hows to have him in
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: your life as a friendship. It's so easy to see. Yeah,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: for sure, it's that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 10: Appropriate to be friends. I guess I'm a little unclear
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: on what as long as you.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Don't have expectations from him, you know, if you can
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: transition into a friendship or you're not having sex with him,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: because I think that's confusing and that muddies the waters.
• 40:21
  Speaker 10: We're not having sex, we haven't had sex, and like
• 40:23
  Speaker 10: you're yeah, I.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Mean, if it's okay to be friends with him. But
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes when we have somebody old in our life,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: it kind of prevents us from moving on to the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: new person. So I don't know if that's happening, but
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: it sounds like what you're describing is pretty stale.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: And I'm thinking, like when you said, you're forty six,
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: and you're already looking at a time where you get
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: old and all down.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: You have, you are still so young.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: There's a forty seven. I'm don't fight my jam up, Like,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Forty is the new twenty five?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter?
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, No. The whole point of that was, so
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: we do.
• 40:57
  Speaker 10: He has some stomach issues and he was in the
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: hot I didn't get a call for three days.
• 41:02
  Speaker 9: So that's the story there.
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: It's like we are getting older and like these are
• 41:06
  Speaker 10: things I should be thinking about.
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: But don't.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I disagree. You're sick? Why do you have to think
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: about that?
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, men are going south before women too, So don't
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: hook up with the guy thinking he's taking care of you,
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: because you were definitely taking care of him before he
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: takes care of you.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? You got to look out
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: for you go younger yes.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, genius.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's go younger. And also you want your vibration here,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: not settling. Like vibration when you settle it just is
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: like olymp biscuit.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, hire a nanny to babysit you when you get older,
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Don't get married.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I would rather pay somebody to take care of me
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: in my life dying days than have any fucking child
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: or niece or nephew. And my nieces and nephews love
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: me and they would take care of me, but I
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: would rather pay somebody to do it so that when
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I say, get me a velvetere on the rocks with
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a splash of fucking soda on my deathbed, they're going
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: to do that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Chelsea, Can I tell you where you can do that? Really? Well?
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: My sister works an elder law and she said that
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: what a lot of people are doing these days is
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: rather than going into assisted living, which is like ten
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: grand a month, they just go on cruises, cruise after
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: cruise after cruise, because there's more doctors per capita on
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: a cruise than at the nursing home.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but saying you have to go on a fucking cruise, captine,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Fuck I'm not doing that. I would go on a
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: limited edition cruise, like there has to be less than
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: fifty people, and then I'll go great, and I have
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to be able to throw each one of them overboard.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: But anyway, you're fucking forty six, You're not. Everything's great,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: have yeah.
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, But can I ask you a question, Chelsea?
• 42:36
  Speaker 10: So I know you really love your alone time, and
• 42:39
  Speaker 10: I really identified with that. My kid went back to
• 42:42
  Speaker 10: school and I had the best day yesterday just by myself.
• 42:46
  Speaker 10: And so do you ever think about in that situation
• 42:49
  Speaker 10: being very comfortable?
• 42:50
  Speaker 9: Are you too comfortable? Or like, do you think that
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: you should?
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: You don't figure you don't need to overanalyze yourself. Whatever
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: feels good to you is the right thing. We are all.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: We live in a society where it's a good thing
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: to like have introspection. But you don't have to be
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: overly analytical about every little move you make. There's no
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: such thing as I spend too much time AMers. The
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: other night, I went to bed at five nineteen pm. Okay,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: anyone else would be like, are you depressed? I don't
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: give a fuck. I wanted. All I could think about
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: was going to bed. I looked at my sleep number
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: in the morning, my stats on my phone and it
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: said you fell asleep at five nineteen pm, And I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: was like, what a victory lap, you know, like, yeah,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: it's whatever, jealous, whatever you feel that you need is
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: what you need. Stop judging yourself.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: And also it's okay if that changes.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, as as it does. It changes all the time,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: So whatever you're feeling is never gonna last forever. Like
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you know, you're just in this mood right now, and
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: then you're gonna get out of that mood. But I
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: would say, you know, take a little separation from that
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: guy and his stomach.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: My one question I think is why it's been such
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: a slow burn for you to make the change. Like
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: it's been like a year and a half of this
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: relationship dissolving and no sex, and you know you're still wondering,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: like do I give it two more years?
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: What is that there?
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Like everybody know that's a big silent gap. We're just
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: all waiting and while you figure out what your answer
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: is mm hmm.
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: The answer is I'm not waiting. I just this situation
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: is here.
• 44:25
  Speaker 10: I've moved on with my life and I think that
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: I need to put a cap on that relationship and
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: say like, look, we had a good run.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: And you know, is he gonna feel the same way?
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Just how does he feel he knows about this call?
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Like he's caring.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: Oh you know your answer, and we all know you
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: know your answer. You just wanted to tell you what
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: to do, but you know what to do. You just
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: said it. We didn't have to say anything. You just
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: wanted someone else to tell you. We want to cap
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: that off.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, I think you should write Dad, I
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: should like, you should write that on your refrigerator. Who cares?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And that is applied to you? And what anyone else
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: might that possibly think of? You start with that mantra
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: every single day.
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: I love it.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you have a whole world, Like you're gonna
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: have a lot of men in your life. We just
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: sometimes have to clean out the garbage in our lives.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: And not that you know any person is garbage, That's
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. It's just some people aren't adding
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: to our value, and some people are only there for
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a short period of time and in your case, a
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: long period of time. But it's time to dust out
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: those cobwebs and get going with the rest of your life.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this could be such an exciting time for you.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: I actually it just became a grown up and you
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: just found yourself. Yeah, it's gonna be a good time.
• 45:42
  Speaker 10: I have a couple of people have hit me up
• 45:44
  Speaker 10: over the past year that I just haven't been ready
• 45:46
  Speaker 10: to date.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, do it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I like being by myself right now, I gotta then.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Don't do it now.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: You don't have to move in with them right away
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: right now, I don't want to.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just go with the flow. I remember
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: once I was hanging out with this group of people.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: This is a long time ago, and I remember looking
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: around going this isn't going to cut it. These people
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: are not going to cut it. I'm too cool to
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: be in this group. And you have to remember that
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: about yourself. When you're too cool for a situation, go
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and find people that are on your vibe, not people
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: that are on your like lower than your totally.
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: And if I could go back and dry hump people,
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: I would just dry hump like I would if I
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: were you. I would just dry hump and make out
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: with them. It would just send them thank you for
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: the night and move on.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I love that advice.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Try hamp is all that bad. Actually, dry humping is
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: going to probably make a comeback at some point.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: It's ly fun.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because you could actually a woman could come
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: or climax from dry humping. Yeah, and to go yeah
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: or monkey a set of monkey bars.
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: I can't believe you put that in your book, by
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: the way, because like I think every woman was like,
• 46:56
  Speaker 10: that's okay that we did that.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: What were oh yeah you girls. I used to master
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: over my pants when it was called the feeling when
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I was growing up. I was so excited. I had
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: no idea because I didn't think you would never touch
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: your Pikachu directly. It would be over the jeans. But
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: if the seam of the jeans were the right seam,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: a fixed seam, you could make yourself come even faster.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: So I would lie down behind an automan. I'd get
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: home after school and I would just be just rubbing myself,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: but I'd have my vagina covered by the automan in
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: case anyone walked into the living room and they would
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: just see me face down on the floor while I
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: had like rug burns on my chin. I was so
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: into myself. I could not get enough of myself. All
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I would do was jerk off all the time, and
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't know I was masturbating. I mean, I knew
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: it was like a secret, but I was just like, oh,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: all my girlfriends were doing it, and so I would
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: just be sitting there rubbing my vagina, rubbing my vagina.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: And then finally we were at dinner one night and
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I had a ladle and it was a whole family
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: dinner and I couldn't like, I couldn't even take a
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: break for dinner. If only fans were alive, then I
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: would have been on it. And so I had this
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: spoon in between my legs and I was rubbing myself
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: at the dinner table, and I obviously became red or
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: sweaty or something, and my mom goes, Chelsea, what you're
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: doing needs to be done in the privacy of your
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: own room. And then my brother Roy yells, she does
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: it all the time. And I looked around the table
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, everyone's known this
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: whole time that I've been fucking jerking off. Like I
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: thought I was sleuth, you know, Like I was like,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: oh my god. And I was so devastated that I
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: did not masturbabeuntil I was in my forties because I
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: was so shamed about it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I hate that, for you.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I hated that my brothers knew that I was jerking off.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Very common, it's very common.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Of course, it is, of course it is. I mean, yeah,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: they're jerking off.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the show Young Sheldon. I want Young
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: chel Oh.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I need to make an I know
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: we were working on that once. Anyway, did you get
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: your advice that you came here for?
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: I did?
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: I love you so much?
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, ditching him?
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: All right? Good? Well, when you get a new boyfriend
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: or girlfriend or whatever you're in too obviously men right now,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: but that can always change. Also, be open minded and
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: when you're in a new situation and you're feeling really
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: positive about your life, please send us a line and
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: let us know.
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: Yes, of course we'll do Hi. Thanks ladies.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, didn't you even take a break for dinner?
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: No, what a productive call that was. That was great,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: she needs. Isn't it funny that you can just talk
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: to someone and you can feel their energy just by
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: talking to them, like if it's high or low. I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: wish that was more like measurable. You know, when people
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: talk about energy. I wish somebody could say, oh, you're
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: at an eighty, so that people would take it more seriously,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: because like, the high vibes are so important, and there
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: are people that just bring you down. Yeah, you know,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: and it's not their fault or that they're a bad person,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: You're just not on the same frequency.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you should have like a little thing above our
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: head that says like, well, like a halo, yeah thing.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I have one more quick question from Brittany. Brittany Britney
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: spears a.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Spellbo so maybe not a little different.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Dear Chelsea, I have a situation I've been wrestling with
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: for about a year. I'm thirty six years old and
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: never wanted kids until this last year. I married my
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: husband last year and we've been together for eight years total.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: I really love him. We mostly have a great relationship.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: We have three cats we adore. But the thing is
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: he does not want to have kids. We always agreed
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: about this until a year ago. I kept thinking that
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: the desire to have kids would just be a phase
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: and go away, but it keeps getting stronger. I'm really
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: confused and torn on what to do. The thought of
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: leaving makes me sad, and the fear of trying to
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: find a partner and have kids at my age seems scary.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: I'm freezing my eggs so that helps take some of
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: the pressure off, but it's still a huge undertaking. I'm
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: worried that later on I'll have some regret about not
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: taking a chance on having a family of my own.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: I'm also worried that I'll regret leaving a good marriage
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: and potentially fucking up my life with a crappy partner,
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: or the challenges of parenthood. How can I make this decision.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I'm going to therapy, but I feel stuck. The clock
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: is ticking, which is so stressful. Thanks for your help, Brittany.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: So the husband decided he didn't want to have kids.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I think neither of him did. And then she just
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: like changed her mind.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, and hit her and she just she felt
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: like she was maternal and she needed to have a baby.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: Oh wow.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: If she really has to decide what does she want
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: more him or the baby, because she actually doesn't.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: She doesn't need him to make the baby. No, she
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: could do it alone.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: But she doesn't need to find another partner to have
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: a baby either. If they did fizzle, like if they
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: broke up, like she can't have a baby on her own.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not gonna make her feel good. She
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: wants to have a husband and that baby. Yeah, so
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: you guys are parents, so you need to handle this.
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: It's happened to a lot of our friends actually, and
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: they broke up with the partner to have the baby.
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: Because you're gonna end up if you can't let it go.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: You're gonna hate them, You're gonna resent them that they
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: never did it, and you will just find problems even
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: if there isn't a problem, you'll create problems. So it's
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: rather be honest and be like, I've changed my mind,
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: and maybe he doesn't know how. She's nervous to say
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: I really really want this, this is what he might
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: be like. Then I can get on board. You never
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: know if you're really honest with it.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like maybe eight years ago when they started together,
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: they totally agreed on that, but he really wasn't as like,
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: he wasn't as determined to not have them as she was.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Now she's changed her mind. Who knows, maybe he has too.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: Oh God, my husband did a one a third really
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: and it was a big conversation, and.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's different.
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: I know, but I was a very big conversation. I
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: think for some people we have to be like this
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: is this is so important to me. I don't know
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: if I can keep being with you if I can't
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: do this, And then he might be like I never knew.
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: Let's maybe let's talk about it. I think about what
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: we're gonna do here.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so much more than do I leave him
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: or do I get a baby? Because she might not
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: even be able to have a baby. You know, like
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: there's so many ex factors. It's so hard to say
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: leave them and go get a new partner and a baby.
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: Maybe there's wiggle room in two years.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Or you know, if she's.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: Freezing his eggs, does he not know something's coming up?
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: Or is she doing it in secret?
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Well, she's freezing her eggs. Yeah, I think you should know.
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: Well, man don't have eggs. FYI, I did you know that?
• 53:14
  Speaker 8: I mean her her egg Yeah, and she may be
• 53:17
  Speaker 8: doing it alone. It's expensive to do that too, yeah,
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: Canada it is.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I think you have to be like, if you really
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: are thinking about this, a you have to wanted to
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: have that baby one hundred and fifty percent. You have
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: to be committed to that. And if you are that
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: committed to that baby and that's more important to you
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: than your husband is right now, then yeah, you've got
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: to leave him and go pursue that. But I mean
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: you have to really know that you want to do that,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: not just be curious about being a mother. I think,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I know how strong a maternal instinct
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: can be, at least I hear about it. But uh,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I think you have to examine really how important that
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: is to you, and then that's your decision right there.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: You know, Yeah, did you have like a whoopsie, like
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: you know, get unofficially inciminated and then be like, oh
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: my no bad.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, but also we're also married. Yeah, I mean
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not against that, like.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Them into a baby, Okay we did?
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's yeah, that's your advice. What's her name name?
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I think that's a good idea. That's just that I
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: would do that.
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if I was a manipulative person, that was something
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: I would think about.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Or just you know, is that how you wand up
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: with baby number three?
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: No?
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: Locked them in? You know, wrap my legs, you're not
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: leaving Squeeze.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Well, let's take a quick break and we'll come back
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: to wrap up with caten At and Chelsea, and we're back.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: We're back.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Well, Caten, this is the part of the show. I
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: want to know if you'd like any advice from Chelsea.
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: Well, we have an ongoing argument that maybe the two
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: of you and Chelsea could settle for us. We have
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: an argument on whether of you and Chelsea. Yeah, whatever,
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: you know, I'm saying, Okay, I think.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: We just we've never really agreed.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know if we have a misunderstanding and we
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: actually have to show each other what we mean. But
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: I take soap and I wash underneath and all over
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: my vagina, like I actually take the soap in my hands,
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: and not in like not in the hole of course,
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: not the hole in the oven, in like, all underneath.
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: And she says that you shouldn't put she read, and
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: you don't put soap there because it's self.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Inside, not in the hole in the lip.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, all in this in the list. And I don't
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: think you're I'm pretty rough. When I wash my beaver
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: in the shower, that's obviously the first spot I liked it,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: but I don't put the soap bar like I guess
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I probably do with something similar. I do know that
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed to
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: put soap inside the lips any of that. Your vagina
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: is a self cleaning mechanism. It means itself. Yes, are
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: you serious? Yeah, so you've been raped soap around it,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: But like, I don't think it's gonna hurt you. I mean,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: it's supposed to affect your p H balance, is what
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, yeah, but I'm not But I don't
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: use a bar of soap. I used pump soap, right,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: is that what you use? So you're not okay? So,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't think it's that big of
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: a deal. I think if you actually put it inside you,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: then it's a big deal. But maso manos, as they
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: say in it' Spana.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: If you're not getting any East infections, you're probably doing
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: it fine.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah right, Yeah, everything's been fine so far. I just
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: like all dark moist places need to be. I also
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: have ibs, so that would be different. You know ibs
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: down there.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: You do definitely stuck my finger in my butthole to
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: wash it. Really, Yeah, if there's a situation that needs cleansing.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, inside the hole.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just to make sure like everything's there that is
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: supposed to be there and nothing extra. Great. Yeah, only
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: when I've had an incident.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, if I even go anywhere near that thing,
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: it's just gonna be a disaster.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Really with soap, I mean, don't you want it to
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: be cleaned your butthole?
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: You can't have any butt play whatsoever.
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: Her bowels live on the whole, like you know.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: I saw a video the other day about anal sex
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: and it says when men go into other men there's
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: three sphincter holes. I had learned that there were two
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: sphincter holes. So when you have anal sex, there's one
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: entryway and then there's a second entryway, and if they're
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: really well endowed, there is a third entryway. But I
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: think that's only applicable for men because they have a
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: scrotum and we do not, so, but for us, there
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: are two anal entries one and then boom boom, depending
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: on how big the pino is. I didn't either, So
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: there's ship wait, there's there's comes out of one. No,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: there's like as deep as it goes then there's like another.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: It's like being in like a labyrinth. There's one one
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: that's the entryway, and then if you have a big
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: enough penis, there is a second anal opening in the
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: same tunnel.
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: I think she has one, and that's the problem because
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: I feel like it just drops and with like where
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: we have to run the red like there's no time.
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: It's like where she's sh pants or like I have
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: a birth effect. And my mom never told me I
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: only have one laveryway.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Ye should not travel with a thermoss in case you
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: need to take a shy in it. Okay, Well, on
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: that note, you guys, I just want to thank you
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: guys for being here all the way from Canada. I
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: can't wait to see you guys again in person. I
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: hope that happens sooner than later. Thank you for being
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: on the podcast. You were very entertaining.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having us. It was so
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: nice to meet you, Catherine. I can't wait to see
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: you guys again.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I'm your biggest fan now, yay.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: Thank you guys, really truly have a great day.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Bye bye, And for those of you who haven't seen
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: my special on Netflix, it's out. Revolution is out and
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: it's streaming, and I am announcing a new tour called
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: the Little Big Bitch Tour. I am starting again in April.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I announced a bunch of cities, so it's on my
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Instagram and my website and whatever. But yes, I'm going
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: back on the road in four months, amazing or whatever.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: I have a whole new show and a whole new
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: thing and I'm gonna go to our again.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: You're just a busy woman, I am.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: I am. There's a lot going on.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: So if you'd like advice from Chelsea, just send us
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: an email at Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Dear Chelsea is.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: A production of iHeartRadio, executive produced by Nick Stuff, produced
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: by Catherine Law, and edited and engineered by Brad Dickert.