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Singer D4vd Loses Private Counsel in Murder Case · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Imagine you're just sitting there, maybe on your commute, and
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  Speaker 1: you're listening to a moody lo-fi indie track on Spotify.
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  Speaker 2: Right, something super relatable.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And this track, I mean, it has a billion streams.
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  Speaker 1: A billion with a B.
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  Speaker 2: Which is just a staggering number to even wrap your
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  Speaker 2: head around.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. And the voice in your ear is
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  Speaker 1: this 19-year-old kid, and he's expressing all this relatable, melancholic
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  Speaker 1: teenage angst. You feel that connection, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the kind of raw authenticity that really makes a
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  Speaker 2: song the soundtrack to your life or your workout or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But what if, at the exact moment that track
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  Speaker 1: was rocketing up the global charts, that same teenager was
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  Speaker 1: allegedly driving around the Hollywood Hills with a gruesome, unthinkable
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  Speaker 1: secret locked in the trunk of his luxury car?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. It's the ultimate collision of this curated digital
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  Speaker 2: world and a horrifying physical reality.
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  Speaker 1: It really breaks your brain a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: Because we are so accustomed to consuming art in a vacuum,
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  Speaker 1: you know? We're safely separated from the artist by our
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  Speaker 1: screens and streaming platforms. So when those two worlds violently intersect,
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  Speaker 1: it fundamentally shatters our understanding of the media we engage
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  Speaker 1: with every single day.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what we're getting into today. We are
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  Speaker 2: taking a deep dive into a modern Hollywood mystery that
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  Speaker 2: honestly feels like a meticulously scripted true crime thriller.
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  Speaker 1: But it's entirely real.
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  Speaker 2: Entirely real. We're unpacking a single, incredibly dense and frankly
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  Speaker 2: disturbing piece of investigative journalism from PBS News dated August 31st, 2026.
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  Speaker 2: And it's quite a read. It is. The mission for
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  Speaker 2: this deep dive is to tear down that facade of
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  Speaker 2: meteoric musical fame and really examine the severe criminal allegations underneath.
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  Speaker 2: But beyond the crime itself, we're also looking at a
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  Speaker 2: highly unusual legal maneuver.
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  Speaker 1: Right. The financial aspect.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It's this baffling financial mystery involving missing millions. that
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  Speaker 2: fundamentally challenges how we think the justice system works for
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  Speaker 2: the elite. So just to give you a clear roadmap
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  Speaker 2: of where this conversation is heading, we really need to
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  Speaker 2: first establish the timeline of these alleged crimes.
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  Speaker 1: Because the timeline is, well, it's staggering.
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  Speaker 2: It really is, both in its logistical and psychological implications.
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  Speaker 2: And from there, we're going to dissect that financial paradox
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  Speaker 2: surrounding his defense team.
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  Speaker 1: Like how a seemingly wealthy celebrity ends up with a
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  Speaker 1: state-appointed lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. And finally, we'll analyze the incredibly high-stakes legal strategies
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  Speaker 2: currently playing out in a Los Angeles courtroom where the
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  Speaker 2: ultimate penalty is literally on the table.
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  Speaker 1: I am really glad you're here with us for this
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  Speaker 1: deep dive. The subject matter is heavy, obviously, but it
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  Speaker 1: is just so crucial to understand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot to process. It is.
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  Speaker 1: So we are talking about David Anthony Burke. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: world knows him as the singer D4VD, which is spelled D4VD,
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  Speaker 1: but you pronounce it David. Right. To really grasp the
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  Speaker 1: absolute shockwave sent out by this PBS News report, you
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  Speaker 1: have to understand the sheer scale of the persona versus
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  Speaker 1: the grisly reality he is now accused of.
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  Speaker 2: Because this wasn't just some local garage band singer who
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  Speaker 2: got into a bit of trouble.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all. This was a teenager who achieved
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  Speaker 1: a level of velocity in his career that most artists,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they can only dream of that kind of success.
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  Speaker 2: The PBS text really highlights how his music blended indie rock,
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  Speaker 2: R & B, and lo-fi pop. Yeah. And to understand
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  Speaker 2: his rise, we have to understand the mechanics of that
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  Speaker 2: specific genre.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, break that down for us.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's designed to be deeply intimate. It's essentially bedroom-produced
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  Speaker 2: music that leverages platforms like TikTok and SoundCloud to completely
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  Speaker 2: bypass traditional industry gatekeepers.
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  Speaker 1: So you don't need the massive studio backing right out
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  Speaker 1: of the gate.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. He built these massive, culturally dominant followings just by
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  Speaker 2: projecting vulnerability.
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  Speaker 1: And the numbers completely back up that dominance. His 2022
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  Speaker 1: breakthrough hit, which is titled Romantic Homicide.
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  Speaker 2: Which is an incredibly chilling detail, given what we were
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  Speaker 2: about to discuss.
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  Speaker 1: Seriously, it is. That track racked up over a billion plays.
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  Speaker 1: And by 2024, he is playing Coachella?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: For context, to go from uploading tracks in your bedroom...
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  Speaker 1: to standing on the main stage at Coachella in a
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  Speaker 1: two-year window, that is an astronomical trajectory.
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  Speaker 2: He is basically the definition of a rising cultural zeitgeist.
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  Speaker 2: He's this 19-year-old kid with the world entirely in the
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  Speaker 2: palm of his hand.
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  Speaker 1: But that is the glossy, highly marketable image. The PBS
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  Speaker 1: investigation really forces us to turn over the stone and
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  Speaker 1: look at the severe charges he is facing.
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  Speaker 2: And the contrast is just jarring.
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  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: He is charged with the killing, the sexual abuse— and
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  Speaker 2: the dismemberment of a 14-year-old girl named Celeste Rivas Hernandez.
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  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, the charges do not stop there. The prosecution
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  Speaker 1: has also filed charges for continuous lewd and lascivious acts
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  Speaker 1: with a child under 14 and the unlawful mutilation of
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  Speaker 1: human remains.
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  Speaker 2: It's just horrific.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. You go from this indie pop sensation
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  Speaker 1: playing to a sea of flower crowns at a festival
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  Speaker 1: to unlawful mutilation of human remains in the span of
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  Speaker 1: a single court document.
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  Speaker 2: And the inciting incident. at least according to the prosecutor's
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  Speaker 2: narrative in the text, it provides a really clear window
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  Speaker 2: into the alleged motive.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because authorities claim the sexual abuse began when the
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  Speaker 1: victim was only 13 years old.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but the breaking point, the actual catalyst for the
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  Speaker 2: alleged murder, it revolves around a very specific digital communication.
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  Speaker 1: The text message.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The night before her death, Celeste Rivas Hernandez sent
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  Speaker 2: David Burke a text message that read, I will end
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  Speaker 2: her career and her life.
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  Speaker 1: That text message, it is the epicenter of this entire tragedy.
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  Speaker 2: It really is.
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  Speaker 1: When I was reading that, I just kept thinking about
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  Speaker 1: the mechanics of sudden teen fame. Because, you know, sudden
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  Speaker 1: teen fame isn't just a fast train you hop on.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's much bigger than that.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It's a massive corporate ecosystem. A 19-year-old boy becomes
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  Speaker 1: the sole load-bearing pillar for a hundred other people's mortgages.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got managers, agents, publicists, the whole tour crew.
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  Speaker 1: Record label executives. And they are all financially dependent on
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  Speaker 1: this kid's pristine, vulnerable image. So when she texts, I
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  Speaker 1: will end your career, she is threatening to detonate that
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  Speaker 1: entire ecosystem.
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  Speaker 2: And remember the timing. Burke is just days away from
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  Speaker 2: dropping his highly anticipated debut album.
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  Speaker 1: Which is titled Withered.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. And that corporate ecosystem metaphor you brought up, that
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  Speaker 2: is vital to understanding the prosecution's theory of premeditation here.
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  Speaker 1: Because they don't see this as an accident.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all. If we look at this through the
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  Speaker 2: lens of a prosecutor, this was not a spontaneous crime
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  Speaker 2: of passion. It wasn't an argument that just escalated out
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  Speaker 2: of control in the heat of the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: The prosecution is painting a picture of calculated roofless self-preservation,
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  Speaker 2: a scandal involving statutory sexual abuse that would instantaneously crater
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  Speaker 2: his career.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it would be over overnight.
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  Speaker 2: It would void his contracts and dismantle that entire corporate
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  Speaker 2: apparatus you just described. The threat was totally existential. So.
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  Speaker 1: He receives that existential threat on his phone. I will
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  Speaker 1: end your career and your life. What is the immediate
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  Speaker 1: documented response? Because this is where the digital footprint becomes
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  Speaker 1: the prosecution's absolute strongest weapon.
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  Speaker 2: Well, according to the prosecutors, the very next night, Burke
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  Speaker 2: sent an Uber for her.
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  Speaker 1: He actually sent the car.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. He utilized a rideshare app to physically transport the
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  Speaker 2: victim to his home. And this introduces a critical piece
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  Speaker 2: of technological evidence.
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  Speaker 1: The cell phone data.
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  Speaker 2: Right. The prosecution demonstrated that the exact moment she entered
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  Speaker 2: his house, her cell phone went permanently silent.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when I read that detail about the phone
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  Speaker 1: going permanently silent, it fundamentally shifted how I viewed the timeline.
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  Speaker 2: How so?
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  Speaker 1: Well, as a society, especially teenagers, we leave exhaustive digital trails.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, a 14-year-old girl's phone does not simply go
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  Speaker 1: dark at a specific address unless something catastrophic has occurred.
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  Speaker 2: Or unless it has been deliberately physically disabled to prevent tracking.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. A prosecutor uses that dead phone not just to
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  Speaker 1: place her at the scene, but as a definitive timestamp
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  Speaker 1: for the end of her life.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. It establishes a very clear sequence of deliberate actions.
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  Speaker 2: He received the threat. He waited a day. He ordered
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  Speaker 2: the transportation. She arrived. The digital connection was severed.
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  Speaker 1: Which implies just a chilling level of forethought.
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  Speaker 2: It really does. The Uber receipt combined with that abrupt
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  Speaker 2: cessation of cell tower pings It creates a narrative of
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  Speaker 2: a trap being sprung.
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  Speaker 1: It completely changes the entire complexion of the crime. It's
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  Speaker 1: not an accident. It is an ordered rideshare leading to
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  Speaker 1: a deliberate digital blackout.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But this is the exact moment in the PBS article
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  Speaker 1: where this deep dive takes a really hard turn. We
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  Speaker 1: transition from this horrifying true crime timeline into what I
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  Speaker 1: can only really describe as a bureaucratic and financial paradox.
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  Speaker 2: The Monday hearing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Let's talk about the breaking news from that hearing.
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  Speaker 1: David Burke just lost his legal team. And we are
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  Speaker 1: not talking about standard lawyers here. We are talking about
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  Speaker 1: the absolute elite tier of private defense.
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  Speaker 2: The text specifically names Blair Burke, along with her colleagues
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  Speaker 2: Marilyn Bednarski and Regina Peter. And I've had to say
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  Speaker 2: in the landscape of Los Angeles criminal defense, Blair Burke
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  Speaker 2: is an institution.
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  Speaker 1: The article actually makes a point to list her clientele.
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  Speaker 1: And it is a literal who's who of Hollywood power.
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  Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio. Jennifer Aniston, Reese Witherspoon.
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  Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Harvey Weinstein, the late Ozzy Osbourne. You do not
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  Speaker 1: hire Blair Burke unless you are facing catastrophic legal peril
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  Speaker 1: and you possess an astronomical amount of liquid wealth.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Her presence in a courtroom, it signals to the
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  Speaker 2: judge and the prosecution that the defense has virtually unlimited resources.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because when a firm like that takes a capital case,
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  Speaker 1: they are not just providing a lawyer in a suit, right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no. They are mobilizing a massive, well-funded apparatus. They
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  Speaker 2: bring in private investigators to interview every potential witness before
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  Speaker 2: the police even get to them.
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  Speaker 1: They hire their own elite digital forecasters.
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  Speaker 2: Experts. Yes, to counter the prosecution's narrative about the cell
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  Speaker 2: phone and the Uber data. They employ jury consultants, mitigation specialists,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is a multi-million dollar defense infrastructure.
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  Speaker 1: But at this Monday hearing, that entire infrastructure just evaporated.
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  Speaker 2: Completely vanished.
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  Speaker 1: They parted ways with Burke, and he was reassigned to
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  Speaker 1: Waleed Kandil from the Los Angeles County Public Defender's Office.
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  Speaker 1: And this is where I have to just stop and
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  Speaker 1: push back for a second, because the math presented in
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  Speaker 1: the PBS report is practically screaming at me.
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  Speaker 2: The $ 10 million.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. The article explicitly states, citing testimony from his own
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  Speaker 1: money handlers at a previous hearing, that David Burke, earned
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  Speaker 1: at least $ 10 million through his music from 2023 through 2025.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: $ 10 million. Now, a public defender is a state-funded service
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  Speaker 1: strictly designed for indigent citizens, right?
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  Speaker 2: Correct. People who functionally lack the resources to hire private counsel.
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  Speaker 1: So how does a 19-year-old with $ 10 million in recent
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  Speaker 1: earnings legally qualify for a public defender? Where does $ 10
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  Speaker 1: million just vanish to in 36 months?
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  Speaker 2: It is the central paradox of the article. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 2: to understand it, we have to aggressively separate the concept
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  Speaker 2: of gross historical earnings from liquid assets available for legal defense.
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  Speaker 1: OK, unpack that for us.
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  Speaker 2: Earning $ 10 million over three years in the music industry
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  Speaker 2: does not equate to a bank account with a $ 10
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  Speaker 2: million balance just sitting there waiting to be tapped.
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  Speaker 1: OK, let me break down the mechanics of how I
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  Speaker 1: understand this. And you tell me if this applies to
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  Speaker 1: a judicial evaluation of wealth.
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  Speaker 2: Go for it.
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  Speaker 1: In the music industry, when you sign a massive deal...
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  Speaker 1: They give you an advance. Let's say it's millions of dollars.
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  Speaker 1: But that advance is recoupable. Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's basically a loan.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. The label keeps your royalties until that advance is
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  Speaker 1: paid back. On top of that, if he grossed $ 10
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  Speaker 1: million from touring and streaming, you immediately slice off 30
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  Speaker 1: to 50 percent for taxes.
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  Speaker 2: Right off the top.
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  Speaker 1: Then his manager takes 15 to 20 percent. His booking
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  Speaker 1: agent takes 10 percent. His business manager takes five.
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  Speaker 2: It adds up so fast.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's the overhead of actually executing a world tour.
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  Speaker 1: Tour buses, stage production, crew salaries, international flights. By the
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  Speaker 1: time that $ 10 million trickles down to David Burke's personal
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  Speaker 1: checking account, it could be a fraction of the gross amount.
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  Speaker 2: That is exactly the mechanical reality the judge had to evaluate.
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  Speaker 2: The public defender's office actually stated in an email that
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  Speaker 2: they completed a thorough financial evaluation and found him eligible.
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  Speaker 1: So they don't just take his word for it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely not. They forensically examine his current accessible liquidity.
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  Speaker 2: Even if he has publishing rights or future royalty streams
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  Speaker 2: that are theoretically worth millions, if those assets are frozen,
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  Speaker 2: tied up in litigation, or simply not liquid cash that
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  Speaker 2: can be wired to a law firm today.
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  Speaker 1: He's functionally broke on paper.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. In the eyes of the court, for the purposes
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  Speaker 2: of a capital trial, he is functionally indigent.
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  Speaker 1: Which brings us back to Blair Burke and her team.
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  Speaker 1: The PBS article notes their departing statement. They said, we
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  Speaker 1: continue to support David and his defense against these serious charges.
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  Speaker 2: It is such a carefully sanitized diplomatic exit.
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  Speaker 1: Very PR friendly. But mechanically, why leave now? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: why not see the case through if they have already
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  Speaker 1: started the work?
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  Speaker 2: It comes down to the strict ethical guidelines governing capital defense.
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  Speaker 2: A private attorney of that caliber cannot ethically take a
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  Speaker 2: case on a piecemeal basis.
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  Speaker 1: Meaning they can't just do the prep work and leave.
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  Speaker 2: Right. They cannot defend a client through the pretrial motions,
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  Speaker 2: run out of retainer funds halfway through jury selection, and
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  Speaker 2: then abandon the client.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense. You'd be leaving them stranded in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of a trial for their life.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. They must guarantee that the funding is secure for
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  Speaker 2: the entire distance of the litigation, which, as we discussed,
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  Speaker 2: costs millions.
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  Speaker 1: So when the money stops?
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  Speaker 2: When the initial retainer is depleted, and the business managers
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  Speaker 2: say there was no more liquid cash coming through the pipeline,
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  Speaker 2: the private firm must withdraw early. The judge granted this
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  Speaker 2: withdrawal because forcing private counsel to work a multi-year capital
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  Speaker 2: case for free is just not legally viable.
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  Speaker 1: It really creates this incredibly surreal image in your head.
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  Speaker 1: You have this international pop star, a kid who was
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  Speaker 1: just commanding the stage at Coachella, stripped of his bespoke
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  Speaker 1: A-list legal armor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's essentially standing in the same bureaucratic line for
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  Speaker 2: a public defender as any other citizen who can't make bail.
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  Speaker 1: It completely shatters the illusion of celebrity invincibility.
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  Speaker 2: It really does.
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  Speaker 1: But as baffling as the financial mystery is, we need
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  Speaker 1: to return to the physical reality of the crime because
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  Speaker 1: the timeline detailed by PBS is unbelievably macabre.
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  Speaker 2: The logistics of the concealment, are where this case moves
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  Speaker 2: from a standard homicide investigation into something deeply anomalous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anomalous is a good word for it. The article
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  Speaker 1: states that authorities allege Burke stabbed Celeste Rivas Hernandez to
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  Speaker 1: death in April. And again, the timing is critical. This
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  Speaker 1: is just two days before his debut album, Wiggered, was
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  Speaker 1: released to the world. But her dismembered and decomposing body
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  Speaker 1: was not discovered until September. That is a five-month gap.
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  Speaker 2: Five months is a vast expanse of time in a
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  Speaker 2: missing persons case.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine.
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  Speaker 2: That is five months of the victim's family enduring agonizing uncertainty,
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  Speaker 2: actively searching for a 14-year-old girl, while the alleged perpetrator
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  Speaker 2: is not only continuing his life, but actively promoting a
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  Speaker 2: global entertainment brand.
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  Speaker 1: And it is the location of the discovery that I
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  Speaker 1: simply cannot wrap my head around. Her body was found
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  Speaker 1: in the trunk of Burke's Tesla, parked at his home
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  Speaker 1: in the Hollywood Hills. But the detail that PBS includes
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  Speaker 1: that just stops you in your tracks is that she
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  Speaker 1: was found in September while he was on tour.
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  Speaker 2: It requires us to deeply analyze the cognitive dissonance necessary
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  Speaker 2: to maintain that dual existence.
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  Speaker 1: But wait, practically speaking, let's examine the logistics of that.
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  Speaker 1: How is that even possible?
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to fathom.
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  Speaker 1: He is a millionaire touring artist. He has an entourage.
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  Speaker 1: He has security, house managers, people looking after his properties
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  Speaker 1: and his vehicles. How does a decaying body sit in
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  Speaker 1: the trunk of a luxury electric vehicle in the Southern
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  Speaker 1: California heat for five months without a single person in
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  Speaker 1: his sprawling corporate ecosystem noticing the smell?
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  Speaker 2: Or without him demanding the car be disposed of.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It suggests two possible realities, and honestly, both of them
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  Speaker 2: are chilling.
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  Speaker 1: What's the first one?
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  Speaker 2: The first is an extreme sociopathic arrogance. It's a belief
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  Speaker 2: that the protective bubble of wealth and fame was so
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  Speaker 2: impenetrable that that no one would ever dare search his
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: personal vehicle, even as a teenager connected to him went missing.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Just total hubris.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Right. The second possibility is a complete psychological fracture. He
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: may have simply compartmentalized the violence, locked the trunk of
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: the Tesla, walked away, and fully immersed himself in the
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: persona of D4VD, the pop star.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Just entirely blocking out the physical reality of David Burke,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the alleged murderer.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Just think about the surreality of that tour. He is
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: traveling the world. He is headlining festivals. He is doing
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: VIP meet and greets with fans.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Smiling for cameras.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: He is standing on stage singing Romantic Homicide to thousands
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: of screaming fans watching their cell phone flashlights sway in
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the dark arena. He is living the absolute zenith of
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the teenage dream. And every single night when he goes
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: back to his five-star hotel room, he knows that sitting
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: in his driveway back in the Hollywood Hills is the
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: dismembered body of a 14-year-old girl. I mean, the human
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: mind's capacity to hold those two realities simultaneously is terrifying.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: And this dissonance is precisely what his original legal team
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: was trying to navigate during the July 5-day evidentiary hearing.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Right. This was before the money ran out and Blair
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Burke departed.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The prosecutors came into that hearing very aggressively, stating
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: they had mountains of evidence.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Which they seemingly do.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: They presented the Uber receipts, the cell phone tower data
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: showing the blackout, And obviously the physical recovery of the
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: body from his personal vehicle.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Yet against those mountains of evidence, the defense pushed back.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: And I want to focus on their argument here because
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: the phrasing in the PBS text is incredibly deliberate.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: It's very revealing.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: The article states that Burke's lawyers argued that the evidence
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: of murder was insufficient. Not that he was innocent. Not
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: that he wasn't there. But that the evidence of herder
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: was insufficient.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: That phrasing is a masterclass in strategic legal pivoting. In
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the criminal justice system, words have very specific, rigid definitions.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Murder is not just the act of killing someone.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Right. There are degrees to it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Murder requires men's re-a-guilty mind. It requires malice of forethought,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: a demonstration of intent and premeditation. By arguing that the
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: evidence of murder is insufficient, despite the victim being found
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: at his trunk, the defense team was engaging in high-level
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: damage control.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Right, because how do you deny involvement when the body
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: is literally in your car? You can't.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: You absolutely can't.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: So what were they aiming for? Were they trying to
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: frame this as an accident?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Exactly. They were likely laying the groundwork to argue for
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: a lesser included offense, such as voluntary or involuntary manslaughter.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, I see where this is going.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: If they could convince a judge or a jury that
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: the death was the result of a sudden explosive argument
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: that just went too far... a tragic accident rather than
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: a calculated execution, they remove the capital element of the crime.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Which completely explains why the prosecution leans so heavily on
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: the Uber receipt and the text message. The defense says
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: it was a tragic accident. The prosecution replies, you ordered
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a car 24 hours after a threat, and her phone
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: died the minute she walked in the door. That is
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a trap, not an accident.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Precisely. Furthermore, the defense's strategy of parsing the definition of
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: murder suggests they were trying to legally decouple the act
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: of her death from the subsequent mutilation charges.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: How does that work?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Well, dismembering a body is a horrific, indefensible act. But legally,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: it is a separate charge from the homicide itself. A
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: defense attorney will often try to concede the undeniable post-crime behavior,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the panic, the concealment, while fiercely contesting the intent at
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the exact moment of death.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: So it tells us that Blair Birch's team looked at
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the evidence and realized a total acquittal was basically impossible. Right.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: So they pivoted to fighting over the specific grading of
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the homicide to save his life.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: So the strategy was essentially he didn't do it the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: way you were saying he did. It makes complete sense
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: of that specific legal phrasing.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a very common tactic when the physical evidence
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: is overwhelming.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: But that entire high price strategy hit a massive roadblock
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: when we jumped to the present day in the text,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: August 31st, 2026. The money is gone. The A-list team
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: is gone. The new public defender, Waleed Kandil, steps into
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the courtroom. Right. And his very first move is to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: ask the judge to delay the arraignment so he can
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: get up to speed on this sprawling, complex case.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Which is an entirely standard expected request. I mean... Taking
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: over a multi-charge capital murder case with digital forensics, DNA evidence,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and extensive witness lists. It requires hundreds of hours of
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: immediate review just to understand the baseline of the prosecution's case.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: But Judge Charlene Ethelmetto just shuts it down. She denies
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the request outright. She forces Burke to enter a not
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: guilty plea immediately and sets a status conference for October.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: She's keeping things moving. Yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: She doesn't set a trial date yet, but she makes
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: it clear the train is leaving the station. Why would
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a judge deny a delay for a brand new public
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: defender who just inherited a case where the defendant's life
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: is literally on the line?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: It really speaks to the rigid mechanics of docket management
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and the momentum of the judicial system.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Because it had already been through the July hearing.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Exactly. This case had already passed a crucial threshold, that
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: five-day evidentiary hearing. At that hearing, a judge already determined
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: that the prosecution's mountains of evidence— were sufficient for Burke
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to stand trial on all charges.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: So the initial hurdle was cleared.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Right. From Judge Almeida's perspective, the arraignment is a purely
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: procedural step. Entering a standard not guilty plea does not
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: prejudice the new defense attorney's ability to prepare for the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: actual trial down the road.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: She is essentially drawing a line in the sand. She
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: is saying your financial mismanagement and your rotating cast of
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: lawyers are not going to stall the wheels of justice
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: in my courtroom. We are moving forward, you know, figure
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: it out.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The court is signaling that the defendant's sudden transition
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: from wealthy elite to indigent public defender client will not
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: earn him any special administrative delays. The system operates on
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: its own timeline.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And the stakes of that timeline cannot be overstated. The
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: PBS article includes a very pointed statement from District Attorney
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Nathan Hockman.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, he made his position very clear.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: He reminds the public that because of the specific nature
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of the charges, Burke is eligible for the death penalty.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: The text notes that the district attorney's office is still
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: in the process of deciding whether to formally pursue the
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: death penalty, which involves a lengthy internal review committee. It's
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: not an overnight decision.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Right, but Hockman projects absolute, unwavering confidence. He publicly stated
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: that the switch in defense lawyers makes absolutely zero difference
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to his office's readiness. He said they are ready to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: prove all three charges beyond a reasonable doubt.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And that statement by D.A. Hockman serves a very specific
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: dual purpose.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Well, legally, he is reiterating the overwhelming strength of the
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: physical and digital evidence they have compiled. But politically and publicly,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: he is sending a targeted message.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: To who? The fans? The media?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: To everyone. He is telling the public that the media circus,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: the celebrity status of the defendant, and the drama surrounding
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the entrance and exit of high-profile private attorneys... It's all
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: completely irrelevant to the prosecution.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: They aren't distracted by the noise.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The DA's office is focusing exclusively on the facts
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: of the crime committed against Celeste Rivas Hernandez.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It is a very firm, we do not care who
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you are or who represents you stance. And that bureaucratic
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: indifference ties perfectly into a really fascinating parallel that the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: PBS journalist included toward the end of the article.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: It's a great piece of context.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. At first glance, it feels like a random tangent,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: but it is actually the thematic anchor of the entire piece.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: They mention a completely different case involving a defendant named
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Nick Reiner.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I want you to connect the dots on this for
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the listener because it really explains the systemic anomaly we're
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: witnessing here.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: The inclusion of Nick Reiner is a brilliant piece of
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: contextual journalism. The article explains that Nick Reiner is currently
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: charged with killing his famous parents, the prominent Hollywood director
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Rob Reiner and Michelle Singer Reiner.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Right. And the article notes that Reiner, just like David Burke,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: recently lost his prominent private lawyer. In Reiner's case, it
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: was Alan Jackson.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Another heavy hitter in L.A.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Law.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And he lost him in favor of a public defender
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: for the exact same reason. His source of funding was
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: cut off. The text says Reiner is now actively fighting
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in civil court for access to a family trust just
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: so he can liquidate enough cash to rehire his private attorney.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It's the exact same scenario.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: So why does PBS place a story about a Hollywood
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: heir next to a story about a lo-fi pop star?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Because it forces the reader to confront a rare systemic
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: intersection where immense celebrity privilege suddenly collides with a rigid
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: bureaucratic wall.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: We're deeply accustomed to observing a two-tiered justice system. We
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: inherently know that the incredibly wealthy can afford a very different,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: vastly more aggressive style of defense.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: It's an open secret. Right.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: What the journalist is doing by placing Burke and Reiner
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: side by side is illustrating what happens when that wealth
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: is severed.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Because having the famous name or even having millions of
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: dollars conceptually attached to your name, like in a loft
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: trust fund or an unliquidated Spotify royalties, it means absolutely
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: nothing to the court system if you cannot physically wire
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the retainer fee today.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Precisely.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: The justice system treats wealthy defendants very differently when their
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: access to that wealth is blocked.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: They become just like everyone else.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Suddenly, these individuals who have lived their entire lives accustomed
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: to the highest level of bespoke private service, whether they
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: are heirs to a Hollywood directing fortune or international pop stars,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: they are thrust violently into the underfunded state-run public apparatus.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: It strips away the illusion of their invincibility entirely. It
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: grounds the sensationalism of the crime in the harsh mechanical
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: realities of the legal system.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: It's sobering.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: It really is. No matter how many billion streams you have,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: no matter how many times you played Coachella, if you
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: cannot clear the bank transfer, you get the public defender.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: It is a stunning observation by the journalist to draw
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that thematic conclusion for us.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: It forces us to realize that fame is not a
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: legal defense and wealth on paper cannot protect you from
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the grinding gears of a capital murder trial.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: So what does this all mean for us? As we
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: synthesize all the facts from this deep dive, I want you,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the listener, to take a moment and reflect on what
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: this case reveals about the media ecosystem we participate in
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: every single day.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: It's something we don't think about enough.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: We really don't. We open our apps. We stream these
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: songs billions of times. We actively project our own emotions,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: our own breakups, our own teenage angst onto these artists.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: We feel like we intimately know them.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Exactly, because their curated aesthetic speaks to our internal lives.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: But we're completely blissfully unaware of the horrifying realities that
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: might exist just out of frame, behind the music, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: behind the millions of dollars generated by our clicks and
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: our streams.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: It serves as a profound cautionary tale about the parasocial
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: relationships we build with digital personas.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: We consume the brand, but we rarely see the human
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: being operating the machinery or the darkness they might be concealing.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: But if we want to leave the listener with one
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: final chilling thought drawn strictly from the timeline presented in
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the PBS text, consider the profound and tragic irony of
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the album release.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: The timing is just impossible to ignore. Walk us through
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: exactly how those dates align.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Think about the victim's final desperate text message. I will
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: end her career and her life. She sent that as
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: a threat, perhaps a final attempt to leverage his fame
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: to stop the alleged abuse. The very next night, she
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: is placed in an Uber and allegedly murdered. And exactly
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: two days after she is killed, while her body is
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: newly concealed in the trunk of his car in the
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Hollywood Hills, David Burke pushes a button and releases his
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: highly anticipated debut album to the entire world.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And the title of that album is Withered.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Withered. It forces us to ponder a terrifying possibility. The dark, moody, melancholic,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: lo-fi aesthetic of his music. The very sound that drew
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: a billion streams and made him a global phenomenon. was
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: perhaps not just a clever teenage persona at all.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: It was real.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: It may have been a literal, unvarnished reflection of a decaying,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: withering reality sitting quietly in a Tesla trunk while the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: world sang along.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: The next time you put on your headphones and stream
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a song that speaks to your soul, it really makes
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you wonder exactly what you are listening to and who
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: is on the other side of the microphone. Thank you
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: for joining us on this deep dive.