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Paradise Proposals · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with I R Radio.
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Speaker 1: Paradise is over and Peter Webber is your new Bachelor.
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Speaker 1: This is Almost Famous podcast. Hey, it a week to
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Speaker 1: talk about. Ashley and I are here discussing everything Paradise,
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Speaker 1: everything upcoming Bachelor. We're discussing love. We have some of
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Speaker 1: your happiest, happiest Bachelor in Paradise couples coming up on
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Speaker 1: the podcast. But before we begin, I'm gonna tell you
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Speaker 1: a little bit about my week. I learned something yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna start the podcast out with um. As
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Speaker 1: Ashley gets settled in she gets her water, I want
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Speaker 1: to tell a little story that she's agreed that I
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Speaker 1: should share. Last night I spent the evening. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: be talking a ton about this coming up. UM. Generous
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Speaker 1: and Sackcloth and Ashes. So Generous is the company that
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Speaker 1: I've been operating now for the last two years. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it is my full time job. It is a company
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Speaker 1: that we've talked about many times in the podcast. And
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Speaker 1: Sackcloth and Ashes, which is one of America's most recognized
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Speaker 1: for purpose brands. Uh. They do the one for one model,
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Speaker 1: so they create amazing blankets and then they donate a
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Speaker 1: Blanket Act to your local homeless shelter for every blanket purchased. Well,
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Speaker 1: Generous and Sackclothing Actions have teamed up on a campaign
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Speaker 1: that we'll be talking about on this podcast very very soon,
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Speaker 1: So get ready for that. That's gonna be awesome. But anyways,
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Speaker 1: World Market which is a which is a company that
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Speaker 1: that is here in the US. They sponsored last night's
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Speaker 1: blanket drop here in Dinner, Colorado. So Sackcloth and Ashes
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Speaker 1: Generous got together and we donated blankets to the local
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Speaker 1: Denver Rescue Mission here in town. And there's a story
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Speaker 1: I want to share to set this podcast off, because
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Speaker 1: I think today's episode is about love, no matter what,
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Speaker 1: and no matter no matter what you've seen in Paradise
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Speaker 1: and what you're gonna see in the upcoming Bachelor's seasons.
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Speaker 1: We ultimately, we've talked about it for weeks now. We
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Speaker 1: watch it one because the drama intrigues us and excites us.
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Speaker 1: And two we think I think at least a lot
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Speaker 1: of people think that we watch it because we can
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Speaker 1: find people falling in love and ultimately believe believe love
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Speaker 1: is a powerful thing. We believe love exists and we
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Speaker 1: can see it through these characters. So today on the podcast,
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Speaker 1: we are going to be bringing in the couples who
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Speaker 1: have found love and support. But with that, I want
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Speaker 1: to share a story from last night, UM that was
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Speaker 1: told to us at the shelter. A man got up
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Speaker 1: who has been homeless for the last four years, UM,
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Speaker 1: and he tells the story that he went to college.
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Speaker 1: He actually went to a great school um Georgia Tech.
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Speaker 1: He studied and got his degree. He left Georgia Tech
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Speaker 1: UH and had a terrific job. He he was newly
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Speaker 1: married to his wife and he was saving money to
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Speaker 1: purchase their first house. And he woke up one morning
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Speaker 1: to find his wife had passed away next to him
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Speaker 1: in the bed, and he said, at that moment, his
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Speaker 1: world started to spend. His love of his life was
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Speaker 1: no longer there. Three days later, he gets fired from
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Speaker 1: his job. And I tell all this story for one
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Speaker 1: civil purpose because he was able to share it with us,
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Speaker 1: and he's four years removed from this, but he shares this.
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Speaker 1: He says, at that moment, my world started to spiral,
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Speaker 1: and I started to do things I never imagined I
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Speaker 1: would do. I started to get into things I never
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Speaker 1: thought i'd get into. I didn't have a job, I
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Speaker 1: lost my loved one, and I felt lost. And he says,
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Speaker 1: in the end of it, he ended up a person
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Speaker 1: without a home because as he spiraled downward, there was
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Speaker 1: no support to pick him up. And now he's finding
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Speaker 1: the support of a community of people that live in
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Speaker 1: this mission with him. And it brings me to this,
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Speaker 1: is that we watched this show for fun and excitement,
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Speaker 1: but we also need to understand the power that support
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Speaker 1: and love can bring. In today's couples are committing to
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Speaker 1: that with each other. And I thought that story right
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Speaker 1: there showed the power of of having the support of
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Speaker 1: a community of people around you, the support of a
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Speaker 1: loved one, so that when things do go wrong and
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Speaker 1: life does start to swirl around you, there's somebody there
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Speaker 1: to help lift you up. I can't imagine, you know,
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Speaker 1: being alone like that. I have a neighbor she told me,
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Speaker 1: like the same thing. She's like in her nineties, and
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Speaker 1: she never got married, never had kids, like all the
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Speaker 1: rest of her family is gone, and it's just heart runching.
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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I thank God every day for
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Speaker 1: Jared and our families and how well supported we are. Definitely, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think it just shows and as we as we
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Speaker 1: celebrate with these couples who have found love, and we
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Speaker 1: celebrate Peter Webber's new experience, as I said, let's not
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Speaker 1: underestimate the fact that these are making These people are
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Speaker 1: making a commitment to love and support each other, just
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Speaker 1: like Jared nashally have and for all those those out
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Speaker 1: there that are not married. UM, a community I think
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Speaker 1: is incredibly important, and that's why this podcast is so
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Speaker 1: awesome sometimes because I do know the Facebook group and
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Speaker 1: through the emails and the hashtags that we get there,
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Speaker 1: there is a community being built around this podcast and
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Speaker 1: we could not be more thankful honestly to be a
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Speaker 1: part of that. Hey, to kind of switch gears here, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: I want to uh, I want to talk a little
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Speaker 1: bit about another big announcement. As we've mentioned before, last night,
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Speaker 1: I was announced as the host of The Bachelor Live Tour,
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Speaker 1: coming to sixty five cities around the US. That's wild,
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Speaker 1: isn't it be? Sixty five cities? When I saw the rundown,
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Speaker 1: I was like, maybe he means six c js five cities.
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Speaker 1: It's wild, and we've talked about it before, but um again,
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Speaker 1: here's the format. So one bachelor, uh in each of
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Speaker 1: these cities. It's different for each of these cities. And
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Speaker 1: then ten women are gonna be chosen as well. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna have first impression roses, They're gonna have group dates,
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Speaker 1: one on one dates all leading up to the final rows.
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Speaker 1: It's literally gonna be the Bachelor in front of a
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Speaker 1: live audience in sixty five different locations. It's gonna be wacky.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be wild, it's gonna be weird. I'm so
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Speaker 1: pumped to be a part of it. I do think
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Speaker 1: cool relationships will come from it. You know what's it's
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Speaker 1: not gonna be easy, Ash, And there's something interesting. What's
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Speaker 1: happen to do this? I'm looking at it, I'm looking
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Speaker 1: at you toward It's February through May seventeen. While you're
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Speaker 1: like cramming him in. There's like one every day, It's
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Speaker 1: literally one every day. I mean it's huge, Um, It's
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a huge task, a huge undertaking. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna be living on a bus, um, traveling to a
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Speaker 1: city near you. We want to see you. I mean,
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Speaker 1: these these venues have you know, two thousand people plus
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Speaker 1: already have committed to coming, So it's gonna be massive.
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Ash, what's really weird. I need you
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Speaker 1: to help me with this because I don't take it
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Speaker 1: as personally as I used to. But I was announced
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Speaker 1: last night as the host, which is a super cool
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Speaker 1: thing for me. I'm really excited about it. It's gonna
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Speaker 1: allow me to work for Generous on the road, continue
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Speaker 1: to work for Generous and make an income. Um. But
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Speaker 1: after they announced it, I've gotten more emails and more
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Speaker 1: tweets at me saying get a real job than ever before.
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Speaker 1: And it's it's confusing to me be because I haven't
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Speaker 1: quite processed how this isn't a real job, Like this
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Speaker 1: is a what if we define a job is something
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Speaker 1: that helps you make a living, something you care about,
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Speaker 1: your passion about. Well, I work for Generous, I run Generous.
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Speaker 1: That's a big, big undertaking. We're growing quickly. But then
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Speaker 1: on top of that, so I can work for Generous
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Speaker 1: for free and volunteer my time there as as the CEO,
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Speaker 1: I need to find another way to make an income,
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Speaker 1: and this gig, this hosting live show, is perfect for it.
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Speaker 1: Why do you think people don't view this as a
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Speaker 1: real job. Um? My theory on this is that people
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Speaker 1: believe that hosting and in events, appearances, social media, all
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Speaker 1: the stuff that you know we do to the public
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Speaker 1: isn't it's too fun to be considered a job. Um,
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Speaker 1: But it but it is and it is fun. And
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Speaker 1: I know that the goal in life should always be
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Speaker 1: to get a job that is fun and that you
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Speaker 1: enjoy doing. And I'm really, really glad to say that
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Speaker 1: I have that it's it's such an amazing lifestyle we live.
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Speaker 1: But it definitely doesn't mean it's not work, that it's
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Speaker 1: not draining, that it's not tiring, that I don't have
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Speaker 1: to exert a lot of energy during it. It's a job.
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Speaker 1: It's great. Would I rather you know, go out there
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Speaker 1: and and do, like, you know, host a reunion show
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Speaker 1: for a TV show, or sit at home and watch
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Speaker 1: the TV show. I'd probably rather sit at home or
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Speaker 1: at least, you know, depending on how long it is.
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Speaker 1: It's it's so great. I'm so blessed every single day
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Speaker 1: to get to do what we do. But just because
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Speaker 1: the job is fun doesn't mean that it's not a job,
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Speaker 1: and that it's not fulfilling in many ways financially and
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Speaker 1: like in my heart. Actually, we've got to celebrate love.
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Speaker 1: We have some lovely couples on the line waiting to
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Speaker 1: speak with us. They've got some exciting news, some big news,
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Speaker 1: some shocking news at that. But before we bring them on,
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Speaker 1: let's take one break and actually tell all the listeners
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Speaker 1: about Crate and Barrel. I know you guys have heard
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Speaker 1: a lot about Cretan Barrel, but Jared and I love it.
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Speaker 1: It provided us a fantastic wedding registry. Are stuff our place,
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Speaker 1: Like we've been gone for it for a while, but
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Speaker 1: it's loading up with createt and barrel stuff and we're
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Speaker 1: trying to place it and like really make what was
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Speaker 1: my apartment our home. And we were able to figure
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Speaker 1: out what would go best with our home because we
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Speaker 1: met with somebody at Cranon Barrel for a private registry event. Basically,
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Speaker 1: you go in and there's somebody an expert at Creton
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Speaker 1: Barrel who will take you around the store and they're
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Speaker 1: gonna give you tips and advice on the best items
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Speaker 1: to add to your wedding registry, whether you're trying to
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Speaker 1: furnish a new home or just like add in some
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Speaker 1: new unique pieces or useful pieces that you guys may
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Speaker 1: need as a couple together. It's very very helpful because
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Speaker 1: when you walk in Cretan Barrel and you have the
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Speaker 1: capability of scanning the products on your phone through their app,
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Speaker 1: you're like, Wow, I just would like to register for everything.
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Speaker 1: And sometimes it's nice to have somebody there's like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: do you need that? Where is it gonna go? Um?
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Speaker 1: Do you want that version of it? Or this version,
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Speaker 1: and they can tell you about all the intricacies about
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Speaker 1: certain you know, mixers, because mixers are such an adulting thing.
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Speaker 1: But it looks really it's like really nice to have
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Speaker 1: in your kitchen. You're like, wow, I can have people
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Speaker 1: think coming over for Thanksgiving. Um. Each couple that does
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Speaker 1: sign up for a private registry event will get to
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Speaker 1: leave with a special gift, which is a fun takeaway
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Speaker 1: to remember your experience. You're always gonna remember registering for
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Speaker 1: your wedding, you know, it's one of those milestone steps.
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Speaker 1: have the couples who have found love on Paradise. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we could have been more supportive of them. We love
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Speaker 1: each and every one of them. I was celebrating watching
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Speaker 1: it from my see I know Actuley was as well.
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Speaker 1: Ashley is is I'm sure emotional of this. We have
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Speaker 1: Chris Bukowski, Katie Morton, Badylan Barber, and Hannah Gotten on
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Speaker 1: the phone right now in one location. Hello everybody. So
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Speaker 1: I saw these guys earlier this morning on stray Hand,
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Speaker 1: Sarah and Kiki, and I'm like asking them all these
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Speaker 1: questions like were you surprised? Um, I couldn't keep it in,
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Speaker 1: So we're going to repeat some of those questions. But
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Speaker 1: it was so nice to see you guys, and they
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Speaker 1: were so happy and like newly in love. It's so nice.
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Speaker 1: So here's how this is gonna work. Everybody on the phone.
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Speaker 1: I know you're sitting in one location with one phone,
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Speaker 1: and so I think how we should do this is
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Speaker 1: if we could just pass the phone around. We'll call
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Speaker 1: you out by name, ask you questions. We want to
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Speaker 1: hear from each and every one of you. But let's
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Speaker 1: start with Kris Bukowski. Chris, can you hear us? All right? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I can hear you perfect. Chris. Your your story in
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Speaker 1: Paradise is one that was unfamiliar to us as as
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Speaker 1: fans of you. You've been on the shows before that's
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Speaker 1: been made fun of and talked about a bazillion times,
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to talk about that as much
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Speaker 1: as I want to say, Chris, You've been on the
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Speaker 1: show before, so we've gotten used to your story, which
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Speaker 1: has been one of heartbreak, which has been one where
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Speaker 1: sometimes you've been you've been the villain. It's been a
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Speaker 1: roller coaster ride for you. I want to ask you
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Speaker 1: the first question is what made this year different? You know, honestly,
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Speaker 1: and you know, I keep looking back at it. What
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Speaker 1: made it different for me this time is I literally
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Speaker 1: went in and I knew absolutely nobody, and I don't
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Speaker 1: think anyone really knew who I was. So my experience
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Speaker 1: was so authentic. I was really to build, you know,
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Speaker 1: able to build real relationships down there, um and I
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Speaker 1: just was more ready personally to you know, kind of
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Speaker 1: find someone and just be more open to it and
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Speaker 1: open to the idea. So, you know, I'm glad I
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Speaker 1: went back. Glad I you know, took three years off
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Speaker 1: that I did and come back and and do paradise.
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Speaker 1: You have like gotten some strong criticism from fans in
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Speaker 1: the past, especially for as many attempts as you made
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Speaker 1: to be on the show. How fun was it for
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Speaker 1: fans have so much fun watching you this season. I
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Speaker 1: think I speak to the majority. Yeah, I think they're
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Speaker 1: probably surprised, um, you know, to see me come back,
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Speaker 1: and I guess actually enjoy myself this time. Um, I
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Speaker 1: mean it was nice, you know. Um. I wish they
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Speaker 1: you know, showed more of uh mindy Katie's relationship and
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Speaker 1: even though there was a lot of struggle but there was,
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Speaker 1: there was a lot um that wasn't seen. Um, but no,
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Speaker 1: it was a treat I mean, it's always nice when
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Speaker 1: people say nice things about you, but you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: more importantly and unfocused on you know what, I got
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Speaker 1: a paradise and you know that's my relationship with Katie. Chris.
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Speaker 1: Before we passed the phone along, I want to ask
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Speaker 1: you one question here, and I don't know how to
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Speaker 1: phrase it because it's gonna be a little bit uh poignant,
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Speaker 1: Like there's something that I noticed last night. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what it is, and maybe you can help us
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Speaker 1: all understand it. But when you're either given praise or
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Speaker 1: it feels like when you're criticized, you shut down. So
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Speaker 1: it's moments where Katie's ere either telling you, hey, I
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Speaker 1: love you. I want to make this work or hey,
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Speaker 1: like this isn't working, like we need to fix things.
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Speaker 1: There's just like, all of a sudden, the Krispy Utkowski
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Speaker 1: that we love and who's joy filled and funny, and
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Speaker 1: he was all of a sudden kind of like it
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Speaker 1: feels like goes into your head, like I feel like
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Speaker 1: your eyes rolled acting like all right, what am I thinking?
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Speaker 1: What is that? Where? Where does that come from? And
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Speaker 1: am I reading it totally wrong? No? I think it's
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Speaker 1: you know, just from before making quick, unthoughtful decisions and
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Speaker 1: in the past, and I feel like now I'm a
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Speaker 1: little more careful. I'm I'm you know, what I'm doing,
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Speaker 1: decision I'm making and what I'm saying in return, and
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Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep everyone's you know, feelings in
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Speaker 1: mind and at the same time, you know, protecting myself
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Speaker 1: as well. It makes sense. It makes sense. I get that.
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Speaker 1: We'll pass the phone the phone over to Katie right
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Speaker 1: now to talk about your relationship further. Katie. Uh, you
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Speaker 1: guys obviously had attention filled couple of months since leaving
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Speaker 1: the show. I want to know how you guys have sought, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, how you continue to solve issues in your relationship,
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Speaker 1: Like what is your best advice to talk out conflict? Okay,
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Speaker 1: So it was really difficult because just even coming off
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Speaker 1: of paras as a regular couple in real life, it's
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Speaker 1: sometimes difficult to communicate. But even coming off of Paradise,
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Speaker 1: when there are people that are kind of sometimes prompting
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Speaker 1: you with questions for you to answer, you feel, um,
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Speaker 1: it's a little bit easier to answer when someone else
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Speaker 1: intervenes a little bit. And when we came off the show, Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm a lot more chatty than Chris's and so I
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Speaker 1: think without sometimes some guidance, it was a lot more difficult,
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Speaker 1: and we had to figure out how to communicate with
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Speaker 1: each other when each other like don't want to be
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Speaker 1: talked to, Like Chris is not a morning person, but
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have paradi well having to talk every morning,
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Speaker 1: you know, Like I didn't know he doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: talk to people the first two hours of him waking up.
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Speaker 1: So it was just a lot of figuring out each
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Speaker 1: other's communication styles and um, yeah, the how often Katie?
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Speaker 1: For you? You you know this is this is your
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Speaker 1: first go around on Paradise, right, Yeah, so how how
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Speaker 1: different for you is it to go from being on
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Speaker 1: The Bachelor, being around a few weeks but not the
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Speaker 1: whole entire time, going then on Paradise and being there
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Speaker 1: the whole time and finding love. Did it? What did
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Speaker 1: you have? Anxiety? Were you fearful? What? What was the
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Speaker 1: emotions being on a show and finding love all at
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Speaker 1: the same time. So to answer like the first part
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Speaker 1: of that question, like the transition from The Bachelor of Paradise,
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Speaker 1: it's so different. You get so much more time with everyone.
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Speaker 1: It's just honestly like unlimited amounts of time. So that's
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Speaker 1: where the difference was there. But UM, emotions are so
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Speaker 1: much higher, I feel because since you get so much
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Speaker 1: time and there's no downtime at all, everything's happening so
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Speaker 1: quickly you almost can't process it. So I had a
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Speaker 1: lot of fears. There was a lot of anxiety, UM
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Speaker 1: paired with very little sleep, and UM, I feel like
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Speaker 1: that heightens everything. UM. But I there's parts where I
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Speaker 1: thrived in Paradise more than I would the Bachelor. Like
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Speaker 1: the Bachelor, I felt that I had such a limited time.
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Speaker 1: I would I would try in Russian just try and
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Speaker 1: get everything into one um, you know, one sentence essentially
19:18
Speaker 1: like a run on sentence right in front of Colton,
19:20
Speaker 1: and then in Paradise it was much more chill, and
19:23
Speaker 1: I could go order food and come back to the conversation.
19:26
Speaker 1: So I liked Paradise more for that in that way.
19:30
Speaker 1: Earlier on Good Morning America, you were saying that you
19:35
Speaker 1: guys have made a lot of progress in the past
19:37
Speaker 1: two weeks since the finale was filmed. How did you
19:42
Speaker 1: make so much progress since then? So I feel that
19:46
Speaker 1: we had been trying to talk to each other, you know,
19:49
Speaker 1: before the reunion even happened, and it was tough because
19:53
Speaker 1: we weren't seeing each other in person pretty much at all,
19:58
Speaker 1: and it was just a very high pressure and it's
20:01
Speaker 1: hard to It was trying to figure out each other's
20:03
Speaker 1: communication and our love languages essentially without seeing each other
20:08
Speaker 1: um every single day like we were in Paradise, and
20:10
Speaker 1: it was really tough. And it was hard because Chris
20:13
Speaker 1: is so much of a quality time person that not
20:16
Speaker 1: being around him and him not giving any words since
20:21
Speaker 1: all we had was the phone, was so so tough.
20:26
Speaker 1: And since them, um, we've spent a lot more time together.
20:29
Speaker 1: We took it upon ourselves to just say, like, you know,
20:31
Speaker 1: we're gonna work on this in person. You're just gonna
20:34
Speaker 1: have to come stay with me until I say. And
20:39
Speaker 1: we've worked on it and had so much fun together
20:42
Speaker 1: and really like broken through some barriers that we've had
20:46
Speaker 1: and walls that we had up even after Paradise, just
20:48
Speaker 1: trying to figure things out, and we're so much happier now.
20:51
Speaker 1: It's so much better trying like not being in hiding too, um,
20:55
Speaker 1: because we were so sected and like secluded, and then
20:58
Speaker 1: when we would get together or it was just like, Okay,
21:01
Speaker 1: we have twelve hours to just sit in this room
21:03
Speaker 1: just together. So um, that's hard for us. We're very
21:06
Speaker 1: much like we like to be around our friends. I
21:09
Speaker 1: like to see how he is with his friends and family.
21:11
Speaker 1: So it's it was interesting different, but I'm glad we
21:17
Speaker 1: are where we are now. How frustrating is it that
21:20
Speaker 1: you guys had to have Bachelor Nations see that as
21:24
Speaker 1: like basically the current status of your relationship. If people
21:28
Speaker 1: aren't paying attention to this press day you guys have today, Yeah,
21:34
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty frustrating, but you know, at the same time,
21:38
Speaker 1: it was real and it's something that helped propel our
21:41
Speaker 1: relationship and put a fire under both of our asses
21:43
Speaker 1: to um, really communicate and talk things out instead of
21:49
Speaker 1: leaving things just like leaving things on the table and
21:52
Speaker 1: walking away from and not hashing it out. So we've
21:54
Speaker 1: learned to just like hash things out right if it happens,
21:57
Speaker 1: and roll with the punches. It's a little bit treating
22:00
Speaker 1: that that was the end of our love story to
22:02
Speaker 1: all of America, just a walk away. But um, you know,
22:07
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter at the end of the day. Like
22:09
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's how we go
22:11
Speaker 1: from here. And so far, so good. Well that's what
22:14
Speaker 1: I want to ask you. I mean, can you confirm
22:16
Speaker 1: to everybody out there listening that YouTube right now? Are good? Oh? Yeah,
22:21
Speaker 1: we're great right now? Right now? Okay, Chris, I have
22:27
Speaker 1: one last question for you, speaking of doing well before
22:30
Speaker 1: we move on to Hannah and Dylan, who are in
22:33
Speaker 1: the car as well. Chris, we heard a rumor that
22:36
Speaker 1: you were actually sick, physically sick through most of Paradise.
22:40
Speaker 1: What was going on there? Uh? And did it? I mean,
22:42
Speaker 1: I was sick during my time as a bachelor. I
22:45
Speaker 1: knew that it affected me and my ability to to
22:48
Speaker 1: be in a romantic relationship for a lot of reasons,
22:51
Speaker 1: mostly because I couldn't get the bathroom. Um, Chris, Yeah,
22:57
Speaker 1: so similar to you, I call it actually um the
23:01
Speaker 1: day of the of UH one on one day with Jen.
23:06
Speaker 1: With Jen, I actually started to get sick and it
23:09
Speaker 1: was pretty sure we kind of keep it back and
23:11
Speaker 1: something I ate. UM. So I spent about three days
23:14
Speaker 1: just throwing it up, not be able to keep anything down.
23:16
Speaker 1: And finally they're like, you gotta go. They flew in
23:20
Speaker 1: a doctor from I don't know where. Um, yeah, they were.
23:25
Speaker 1: They were worried because you guys saw the rented doctor
23:27
Speaker 1: they had one. Yeah, that guy was like twenty three
23:33
Speaker 1: years old and I think he was just playing doctor. Um. Yes.
23:38
Speaker 1: It was tough and you know, um, I was super dehydrated.
23:41
Speaker 1: And when I finally like, they were like, all right,
23:43
Speaker 1: you want to leave or you want to come back,
23:44
Speaker 1: and like, you know, I want to finish this out.
23:46
Speaker 1: And even when I came back, man, I was I
23:48
Speaker 1: was miserable. I lost like nine pounds, um, and UH
23:52
Speaker 1: came back and it was it was tough. It was
23:54
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's tot and you know, you don't
23:56
Speaker 1: sleep a lot, so it's um, it was tough to
23:59
Speaker 1: kind of go through it. So I mean I was miserable.
24:02
Speaker 1: I mean I was I was miserable for a lot
24:03
Speaker 1: of the time. But uh, you know, I'm glad I
24:06
Speaker 1: was able to stick around and see everything through. Yeah,
24:09
Speaker 1: it's nearly impossible, I would imagine. I mean, I can
24:12
Speaker 1: go back. But this is not about me. This is
24:14
Speaker 1: about you here. I didn't have to spend my whole
24:16
Speaker 1: time on a beach uh and the heat and uh
24:19
Speaker 1: and also try to spend time with all these people
24:22
Speaker 1: and build a relationship. Chris, good on you, man um
24:27
Speaker 1: for pushing through it, and Katie, great on you for
24:31
Speaker 1: sticking beside him. We're really excited about YouTube, and we're
24:34
Speaker 1: also excited about this next couple who we had a
24:38
Speaker 1: co host last week, Sydney. She loves Dylan Hannah. Uh.
24:42
Speaker 1: They She thinks Dylan Hannah are just the best people.
24:46
Speaker 1: But she said she didn't see a lot of them
24:47
Speaker 1: because a lot of time was spit in the boom
24:49
Speaker 1: boom room. Hannah and Bild to get this thing started.
24:54
Speaker 1: Explained to the listeners out there, what is the boom
24:57
Speaker 1: boom room? And hey, be honest, why are you in
25:01
Speaker 1: there all the time? So? Um, I don't know if
25:05
Speaker 1: you guys have heard, but sometimes you stay up really
25:08
Speaker 1: really late in Paradise and so look a lot of naps.
25:14
Speaker 1: I mean you get the spin that you need. I'm
25:17
Speaker 1: not even usually a napper. Um yeah, yeah, honestly, the
25:21
Speaker 1: stas fun fact um. And yeah, I mean you don't
25:28
Speaker 1: have to be on all the time, and there's like
25:31
Speaker 1: not cameras. Were times that's nice. When they used to
25:37
Speaker 1: bring coffee to your room, that was like the greatest
25:39
Speaker 1: luxury nice coffee. They're so good. I took actually advice
25:45
Speaker 1: for the safe Earlier today, Hannah said that he was
25:53
Speaker 1: more shocked to get engaged than Katie, that you than
25:57
Speaker 1: you were. Um, so Hannah explained everybody why you were
26:01
Speaker 1: so surprised is he doing it down on one knee?
26:03
Speaker 1: Because none of us were surprised. Well, I wasn't sure
26:07
Speaker 1: if he was actually going to do it. Um. We
26:12
Speaker 1: you know, we've kind of really had one job or
26:15
Speaker 1: one main thing to talk about during fantasy suits and
26:20
Speaker 1: we just kind of left it as like oh well,
26:22
Speaker 1: you know, like in the moment kind of thing. And
26:26
Speaker 1: I think we both left the fantasy suite being like,
26:28
Speaker 1: oh wait, so are we actually doing it? Or are
26:30
Speaker 1: we holding off her family? So I actually just wasn't sure. Um,
26:36
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think we really we knew that we
26:40
Speaker 1: both wanted to be engaged. It was just a matter
26:42
Speaker 1: of her family being involved in my family being involved,
26:46
Speaker 1: and I think we just came to the conclusion that,
26:50
Speaker 1: I mean, it was kind of like our moment. Everything
26:52
Speaker 1: culminated to that, and we knew that both our families
26:55
Speaker 1: would be We just kind of wanted to take advantage
26:58
Speaker 1: of of being there with our love story and everything,
27:01
Speaker 1: because it obviously wasn't the easiest, but we're really happy.
27:05
Speaker 1: I'm happy I did it, and our families, um do
27:09
Speaker 1: love each other, and they my family loves Dylan. Yeah,
27:13
Speaker 1: my mom loves and all of that. Today, Dylan, was
27:18
Speaker 1: there a precise moment where You're like, I'm going to propose? Yeah,
27:26
Speaker 1: I it was. I woke up the day of because
27:29
Speaker 1: we um obviously, like you kind of stepparate a little bit.
27:33
Speaker 1: But I woke up the day of, and um, the
27:36
Speaker 1: night before, I was unsure, and I just felt so
27:38
Speaker 1: confident that day, like this is the one that I
27:41
Speaker 1: want to be with for the rest of my life,
27:42
Speaker 1: and I want to take advantage of the opportunity that
27:45
Speaker 1: we have right now and and propose to are and
27:47
Speaker 1: show her that I fought for from essentially the first day,
27:50
Speaker 1: and then I was committing to do that for the
27:52
Speaker 1: rest of a lot. So it was pretty cool moment,
27:55
Speaker 1: a realization. I guess we we started the podcast today.
27:59
Speaker 1: You all didn't need to hear it, but we just
28:01
Speaker 1: said about out the podcast about a story of how
28:04
Speaker 1: important community and support is at any level. So if
28:06
Speaker 1: it's really romantic, if it's with friends, are just in
28:09
Speaker 1: a community of people, how important it is to support
28:12
Speaker 1: each other. Hannah Dylan. I think the whole season US
28:16
Speaker 1: fans of you yours were so intrigued with Dylan, how
28:21
Speaker 1: you supported Hannah at the beginning while Hannah was kind
28:23
Speaker 1: of figuring everything out and processing it. And then Hannah
28:26
Speaker 1: the switch that you made a couple of weeks in
28:28
Speaker 1: where he said, no, I'm choosing you Dylan because you
28:31
Speaker 1: are somebody I'm into. What why You're in paradise. We
28:37
Speaker 1: talked about it every season, and I'm gonna try to
28:39
Speaker 1: phrase this correctly. What about those moments lad you at
28:42
Speaker 1: the end to be confident that you were the right
28:44
Speaker 1: person for each other forever? I think really having a
28:50
Speaker 1: lot of time. Yeah. I mean, even though it seems
28:52
Speaker 1: like we just made out the whole time and said
28:55
Speaker 1: you rock, Um, we had a lot of a lot
28:57
Speaker 1: a lot of time, so really focus on each other,
29:01
Speaker 1: ask questions that mattered, and you know, ultimately just figure
29:06
Speaker 1: out as we could make this work in the real world,
29:09
Speaker 1: because it was working great and paradise land, but the
29:13
Speaker 1: real world is different and scary. Until we really had
29:15
Speaker 1: those conversations, and I think there was just a bunch
29:18
Speaker 1: of moments that really kind of validated that we wanted
29:22
Speaker 1: to be together. I don't know if it was a
29:24
Speaker 1: little moments like breakfast and like just doing small things
29:28
Speaker 1: get together, or conversations or just I don't know. I
29:32
Speaker 1: think I think with us, it was our communication, Like
29:37
Speaker 1: from the very first night we that's the tone that
29:40
Speaker 1: we were going to be a hundred percent up front
29:42
Speaker 1: with each other and tell each other everything, not pull
29:45
Speaker 1: any punches, um. And I think from that point on
29:49
Speaker 1: we continue to do that every single day. And that
29:52
Speaker 1: just made me feel so confident and like where we
29:54
Speaker 1: were at and how happy we were together. Well, I'll
29:56
Speaker 1: tell you one thing here at almost from this podcast,
29:58
Speaker 1: our listeners who have emailed to message us and Ashley
30:01
Speaker 1: and I the rest of the team. We're so happy
30:04
Speaker 1: for all of you in that car right now, and
30:06
Speaker 1: including Demi and Christian who are not able to be here. Uh.
30:10
Speaker 1: We just want to celebrate you all, celebrate your love stories.
30:12
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting us be a part of that. Dylan,
30:16
Speaker 1: I have one last final question for you before we
30:18
Speaker 1: hang up. I want to know you have everybody known
30:22
Speaker 1: this man the best? What do you think of Pilot
30:24
Speaker 1: Pete being named the next Bachelor? Pete, He's gonna be
30:28
Speaker 1: a great bachelor. I think, Um, they had a great
30:31
Speaker 1: crop of guise to choose from, whether you know, if
30:33
Speaker 1: you Tyler, Mike Pete, um, And I think Petche is
30:37
Speaker 1: gonna absolutely crush it where it's hard on his sleeve. Um.
30:40
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be there's gonna be a pretty
30:42
Speaker 1: cool up story at the end of it. And I
30:43
Speaker 1: know Pete's just really excited for the opportunity and and
30:46
Speaker 1: ready to see those girls that Outlet know for sure. Awesome, awesome, Well,
30:50
Speaker 1: we're so excited to watch him. Hey, guys, thanks for
30:53
Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. Thanks for sharing your moment with us.
30:57
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33:31
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33:35
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33:38
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33:44
Speaker 1: I think that the producers are gonna have to figure
33:46
Speaker 1: out a way in order to allow situations like this
33:50
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33:55
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33:59
Speaker 1: a guy. I and then in order for them to
34:03
Speaker 1: create more same sex couples, they're going to have to
34:08
Speaker 1: figure out the structure. Or do they're casting differently? I
34:10
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a lot in the casting.
34:12
Speaker 1: I think you may be having to cast more queer
34:16
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34:19
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34:22
Speaker 1: how do you think that they could go about it? Well,
34:25
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if they're I think it's
34:28
Speaker 1: a really unique scenario. So like, is it a unique
34:31
Speaker 1: scenario or they going to be able? Are they gonna
34:35
Speaker 1: want to do it again? Well, I mean, love is love,
34:40
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34:42
Speaker 1: the DEMI makes a couple of comments that helps me
34:44
Speaker 1: gain perspective into what I think is going to happen
34:46
Speaker 1: in the future. So Demi says she felt like she
34:49
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34:50
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34:55
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34:59
Speaker 1: christ And I don't know, and I would we would
35:03
Speaker 1: have to ask Demmy. I don't know if Demmi fully knew,
35:09
Speaker 1: uh what was going to happen to her relationship Christian
35:12
Speaker 1: when she went on the Paradise. I think there was
35:15
Speaker 1: still the question of you know, is this right? Is
35:18
Speaker 1: this wrong? Am I going to be criticized? We saw
35:20
Speaker 1: all season from her, and I think Paradise gave her
35:23
Speaker 1: the platform to be confident and to explore this relationship
35:26
Speaker 1: with Christian, which obviously led to them being happily engaged
35:30
Speaker 1: and in love. So in the future, I think the
35:34
Speaker 1: only change, I don't know if it's even a change
35:37
Speaker 1: the show makes, it's just now they know that it's
35:41
Speaker 1: a possibility, like it's open, it's available, it's there, like
35:46
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a shock when somebody comes
35:49
Speaker 1: and says, hey, I actually it came down the Paradise,
35:51
Speaker 1: or hey I came on the Bachelor, I came on
35:53
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, and I thought I was into the Bachelor
35:56
Speaker 1: to the lead, but I'm actually into somebody of the
35:59
Speaker 1: same sex is me. Then I think the show now
36:02
Speaker 1: know how to respond, and their response will be Okay,
36:05
Speaker 1: let's make it happen. And I think that is the
36:09
Speaker 1: big historical change. I just think that fans are going
36:13
Speaker 1: to get annoyed if it's continuously having to bring someone
36:17
Speaker 1: in from their own life though. So that's why I'm
36:19
Speaker 1: saying that they're going to have to cast more more,
36:23
Speaker 1: you know, people who are interested in both sexes, that
36:29
Speaker 1: the fans want to watch people in Paradise who have
36:31
Speaker 1: been on the Bachelor Bachelor at Yeah. Like I think
36:33
Speaker 1: this is a one time unique thing because somebody was
36:36
Speaker 1: brought in from outside. I'm also like the last person
36:38
Speaker 1: to say that because my sister was brought in. But
36:40
Speaker 1: I think that that's a romantic interest. I'm not sure
36:43
Speaker 1: if that will fly again, to bring a romantic interest
36:45
Speaker 1: into Paradise or or could be the complete opposite other direction,
36:50
Speaker 1: where now people now they've opened the floodgates to bringing
36:56
Speaker 1: people from you know, the real world into bad Yeah.
37:01
Speaker 1: But I but their engagement was beautiful. Um, there's so
37:06
Speaker 1: heartfelt like the love between them truly radiates into the
37:11
Speaker 1: family rooms in America. You know, you feel it's palpable.
37:15
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's something that will definitely change Bachelor Nation.
37:21
Speaker 1: And I think that Demmi and Christian did show an
37:24
Speaker 1: enormous amount of courage. Uh, it's no wonder they're busy today. Hey,
37:29
Speaker 1: and as we got to tell the other couples congratulations
37:32
Speaker 1: on behalf of the almost famous podcast on Finding Love
37:35
Speaker 1: in Paradise, Ashley to kind of switch gears here, there
37:39
Speaker 1: is a couple that didn't find love in Paradise and Nicole,
37:45
Speaker 1: who we haven't seen about. You texted last night and
37:48
Speaker 1: this morning about this. You're fired up that we did
37:50
Speaker 1: not get to see their conversation. So before I let
37:53
Speaker 1: you loose, ash I want to give a quick rundown
37:55
Speaker 1: of what happened last night. We saw Clay uh not
37:59
Speaker 1: during the fan of c suits, not able to fully
38:01
Speaker 1: commit to Nicole. He says that he doesn't know if
38:04
Speaker 1: he loves her, which breaks Nicole's heart because she is
38:07
Speaker 1: in love with him. But I think Clay is saying, hey,
38:09
Speaker 1: I want to try to make this work. I think
38:12
Speaker 1: this is something we could do. However, it all ends.
38:17
Speaker 1: It all ends in a kind of like abrupt way.
38:19
Speaker 1: It felt on the beach in Paradise. I was excited
38:24
Speaker 1: to see them kind of talk it out. It was
38:26
Speaker 1: one of the things I was most kind of anticipating, Ashley.
38:29
Speaker 1: We didn't see it, and I know you want to
38:32
Speaker 1: know why, so confusing, so insider knowledge. They did film
38:38
Speaker 1: a scene of Clay and Nicole in the hot seat.
38:42
Speaker 1: They had Angela involved, All three of them were there,
38:45
Speaker 1: and they didn't make it in I love my friends
38:48
Speaker 1: Jade Tanner, Carly Evan and Chris and Crystal, but I
38:52
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit odd that they had that
38:54
Speaker 1: little reunion segment instead of showing one of the main players.
38:59
Speaker 1: When the some of the main cast of Bachelor in
39:03
Speaker 1: Paradise season six, it's like super weird, especially a storyline
39:07
Speaker 1: that seemed so not finished. Um when we saw Nicole leave,
39:14
Speaker 1: I at least thought that she would like go home
39:18
Speaker 1: and regret what you did, because Clay did straight up
39:21
Speaker 1: offer to just be a girlfriend and boyfriend in real life.
39:23
Speaker 1: She was not satisfied with not getting engaged. I personally
39:28
Speaker 1: don't think it was the best choice. The guy was saying,
39:32
Speaker 1: I want to be with you, just not ready to
39:34
Speaker 1: put a ring on your finger. He just takes engagement seriously,
39:38
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he didn't want to do it more
39:39
Speaker 1: than once, and he wasn't at that point yet. And
39:42
Speaker 1: I don't know how she expected him to be, because
39:45
Speaker 1: he did just say about two or three days prior
39:48
Speaker 1: that he wasn't even in love with her yet. So
39:50
Speaker 1: I don't know how he was gonna get from that
39:52
Speaker 1: point to engagement point in three days. But hey, who knows. Um.
39:58
Speaker 1: I was just I feel like my self and the
40:00
Speaker 1: audience were super interested in seeing their hot seat and
40:05
Speaker 1: it was bizarre that it was cut out. Super It's
40:10
Speaker 1: super bizarre. Actley And but here's one thing I'm confused about,
40:14
Speaker 1: and you can maybe help me a little bit because
40:16
Speaker 1: you do have the insider information. The breakup happens, everybody's upset.
40:20
Speaker 1: We want to watch what we didn't get to so
40:22
Speaker 1: as fans got to go, okay, why and Clay comes
40:25
Speaker 1: out last night to answer our question. He tweets, Yes,
40:29
Speaker 1: I was at the reunion. They chose not to show
40:32
Speaker 1: my convo with Nicole. I basically explained why I didn't
40:35
Speaker 1: think we were far enough along to get engaged and
40:39
Speaker 1: that I really did want to continue to date and
40:41
Speaker 1: wished her luck. And here's why I have a question
40:44
Speaker 1: with her new relationship. Nicole's a new relationship. Is this
40:48
Speaker 1: is something we know? Um know? All I knew was
40:51
Speaker 1: from Twitter that she was seeing somebody. And apparently she's
40:55
Speaker 1: now good friends with Angela that gets bond over the
40:58
Speaker 1: fact that Clay likes them, but then breaks up with
41:02
Speaker 1: them while he's still interested. But not really, because Clay
41:07
Speaker 1: didn't really break up with Nicole. She broke up with
41:10
Speaker 1: him when he didn't extend her a proposal. Um yeah,
41:14
Speaker 1: this is all like super weird. My only explanation as
41:19
Speaker 1: to why it may have been cut out is perhaps
41:21
Speaker 1: it was the exact same conversation we saw on that
41:26
Speaker 1: engagement deck. You know. It's just like I wanted to
41:30
Speaker 1: get engaged, you did it. I'm done. I deserve better.
41:34
Speaker 1: You were an upfront with me. She keeps saying she
41:36
Speaker 1: wasn't that Clay wasn't upfront with her. I sort of
41:39
Speaker 1: feel like he kind of was. If I'm wrong, No,
41:43
Speaker 1: I think he was. Like it was it was maybe
41:46
Speaker 1: she felt like she needed more on why they weren't
41:50
Speaker 1: getting engaged, but for whatever reason he was telling your Hey,
41:53
Speaker 1: we're not far enough along. I don't think it's gonna work.
41:55
Speaker 1: I do think Clay communicates better in his head than
41:59
Speaker 1: he does out lead meeting. I think he knows what
42:01
Speaker 1: he wants and what he's gonna say, but I think
42:03
Speaker 1: he doesn't always say it as well is what he's
42:07
Speaker 1: thinking it, especially in moments like this where there's a
42:10
Speaker 1: lot of like tension and so maybe she doesn't. It
42:12
Speaker 1: felt like he was explaining himself well enough. True. And
42:16
Speaker 1: I also have to say that I think that Clay
42:20
Speaker 1: is not in the right place to be in a
42:21
Speaker 1: relationship mentally or emotionally right now. He has like similar
42:25
Speaker 1: things he needs to tackle because the way that they
42:28
Speaker 1: parted seems to be very similar to the way that
42:31
Speaker 1: he and Angela parted. It's just like, like I like
42:34
Speaker 1: you a lot, but like I don't know if I
42:36
Speaker 1: can do this yet, Like if I'm in the place
42:39
Speaker 1: in my life, well, then you probably shouldn't be dating
42:42
Speaker 1: people because then you're just getting their hopes up and
42:45
Speaker 1: they're getting infested feelings. Yeah, you're right, yeah, if you're
42:50
Speaker 1: not there yet. I mean because Nicole and Nicole and uh,
42:56
Speaker 1: Clay had such a good thing going for so long
43:00
Speaker 1: that it felt like at the very end, when there's
43:02
Speaker 1: actually a decision that me have made, hell of a
43:05
Speaker 1: sudden realized I'm ready and that that was too far
43:08
Speaker 1: gone at that point, but we didn't get to see it,
43:11
Speaker 1: and so obviously the show moved on, and what the
43:13
Speaker 1: show moved on to was a few a lot of
43:16
Speaker 1: time against with JPJ and Tasia. The show really is
43:19
Speaker 1: enjoying this relationship. To backtrack a little bit more though,
43:23
Speaker 1: during the live show, actually we saw JPJ and Derek
43:26
Speaker 1: have it out for each other again. Still no apologies,
43:30
Speaker 1: Still no conclusions, Still arguments who owes who would apology here? Um?
43:35
Speaker 1: I mean the biggest apology is JPJ to christ and
43:40
Speaker 1: Crystal for acting out like that at their wedding. He
43:43
Speaker 1: kind of half asked that apology right, kind of kind
43:47
Speaker 1: of started tried, uh, kind of yeah, kind of see,
43:51
Speaker 1: it wasn't like totally sincere I wouldn't say, Um, I
43:55
Speaker 1: guess I think that JPG should be apologizing to Derek. Um.
44:00
Speaker 1: Jordan made it pretty clear what Derek was trying to
44:04
Speaker 1: convey when he's you know, when he told he told
44:07
Speaker 1: him about like Instagram and d m S and all
44:09
Speaker 1: that stuff, and jp J I really just to think
44:13
Speaker 1: like I took an innocent comment about lifestyle and villainize it.
44:17
Speaker 1: And I think that I think that JPJ owes there
44:21
Speaker 1: are going to apology if anybody, you know, if anybody
44:25
Speaker 1: owes anyone, I don't apology. But I also think that, um,
44:29
Speaker 1: they're just never gonna be friends, just like one of
44:32
Speaker 1: those Bachelor in Paradise like relationships where it's just like
44:35
Speaker 1: it's just they're never gonna be friends and they'll try
44:37
Speaker 1: to avoid each other all the time. And I feel
44:39
Speaker 1: like most people have somebody like that that they like
44:41
Speaker 1: kind of dread, maybe running into it like bachelor family
44:45
Speaker 1: meet up things. Yeah, I can't imagine who that would be. Um, well, hey,
44:50
Speaker 1: I want to tease that Tai will actually be with
44:53
Speaker 1: us in Vegas next week at the iHeart Fest. She'll
44:57
Speaker 1: be sitting down with us to discuss all of this.
44:58
Speaker 1: Will get some incenter from obviously because she's the one
45:01
Speaker 1: living it, we'll understand more of how she felt about
45:04
Speaker 1: the JPJ derreck scenario and also what happened with her
45:07
Speaker 1: and JPJ, because according to Reality Steve, he said that
45:12
Speaker 1: JPJ and Tasha are no more, no longer together, So
45:18
Speaker 1: you know what reality Steve has been right before. I'm
45:21
Speaker 1: assuming he's right again, considering JPJ is not gonna be
45:24
Speaker 1: in Vegas. So next we're supposed was he supposed to
45:28
Speaker 1: call on the show? Yeah? Uh yeah, Well, Hey, things
45:33
Speaker 1: happen relationships in and we'll get the inside scoop very
45:37
Speaker 1: soon from Tassia in Las Vegas. We have some massive
45:40
Speaker 1: things to talk about in Bachelor Nation. We have Blake
45:43
Speaker 1: and Kaitlin, we have new Bachelor Peter Webber, and we
45:46
Speaker 1: have Mike Johnson's new relationship with Demmilovado. So before we
45:50
Speaker 1: get to all of that, let's take one last break
45:53
Speaker 1: to talk about some of our favorite people. Hey. To
46:04
Speaker 1: finish off this podcast, as we discussed, we're gonna talk
46:07
Speaker 1: about some of the biggest news and Bachelor Nation. We
46:11
Speaker 1: have Mike Johnson potentially dating Demilovado. Ashley, what have you heard?
46:16
Speaker 1: What do you know? And is it true? I don't
46:19
Speaker 1: know anything, but we are doing an in depth podcast
46:23
Speaker 1: episode with Mike Johnson this weekend in um Vegas for
46:27
Speaker 1: the I Heart Festival, and I am so excited to
46:30
Speaker 1: try to pry this information out of him. I'm sure,
46:33
Speaker 1: he'll be very coy, but I can see them being compatible.
46:37
Speaker 1: I think they'd be a really hot couple with great
46:39
Speaker 1: smiles together. I'm excited to hear more or at least
46:44
Speaker 1: like even if he doesn't give us anything, like kind
46:47
Speaker 1: of follow their relationship through the paparazzi the way that
46:50
Speaker 1: we have been with Tyler and Gig. You know, it's
46:54
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome next week because in Las Vegas at
46:56
Speaker 1: the I Heart Music Festival, we're gonna be able to
46:58
Speaker 1: sit down with Tasha and get the inside scoop on JPJ,
47:00
Speaker 1: something we don't need a lot of know a lot
47:02
Speaker 1: about right now. And then also Mike Johnson with an
47:05
Speaker 1: in depth episode talking about if he's sad he wasn't
47:08
Speaker 1: chosen as a bachelor, if he is dating Demi Lavado,
47:11
Speaker 1: that's obviously gonna be a question we asked and trying
47:13
Speaker 1: to get to know who Mike Johnson is. I'm telling you,
47:16
Speaker 1: next week is gonna be massive for this podcast, and
47:19
Speaker 1: we're so thankful that you're gonna be around for it.
47:21
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Okay, Actually, we got to discuss
47:24
Speaker 1: something serious. It's been a topic throughout Paradise this year.
47:28
Speaker 1: It all ended, and I'm glad it did. So my
47:31
Speaker 1: first question to you before we start talking about Blake
47:36
Speaker 1: and Caitlin specifically, m is and I have an opinion, Okay,
47:42
Speaker 1: if we weigh all of this out here, all of
47:44
Speaker 1: everything that's happened, and how serious some of these accusations
47:48
Speaker 1: have been, and how serious this uh, this topic and
47:52
Speaker 1: this relationship or lack of relationship or whatever it is,
47:55
Speaker 1: has been for Blake and Kitlin throughout the season. I mean,
47:59
Speaker 1: I know I felt the weight of it. I think
48:01
Speaker 1: you did as well, and i think Bachelor Nation did
48:02
Speaker 1: as well. So here's my question. Is it inappropriate for anyone,
48:09
Speaker 1: especially Blake to go to stagecoach next year? This year?
48:14
Speaker 1: Did you talk about this last week? I forget because
48:16
Speaker 1: somebody else asked me this question. I think I think
48:19
Speaker 1: it was on the podcast you were in on, which
48:21
Speaker 1: is funny, and I think Jared and I said that
48:24
Speaker 1: it will be he like has to go for like giggles,
48:27
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he needs to go
48:28
Speaker 1: if he goes for fun or if he goes for
48:32
Speaker 1: you know, sponsorships or whatnot, which I'm sure a lot
48:35
Speaker 1: will be reaching out as he's now the poster boy
48:39
Speaker 1: for you know, hook ups that stagecoach like some beer
48:43
Speaker 1: company out there like needs to sponsor him. Um, maybe
48:47
Speaker 1: this isn't a joke, but I find it a little
48:49
Speaker 1: bit amusing. And I think that if Blake were to
48:52
Speaker 1: return to Skate Day's Coach, everything he posts that week
48:55
Speaker 1: and his entire being needs to be super self aware
49:00
Speaker 1: and funny. Everything's got to kind of be a joke.
49:03
Speaker 1: You just have a hard time. Really don't want him
49:06
Speaker 1: to return to stitute. No, because I saw how like
49:10
Speaker 1: I was feeling for Blake when he posted his videos,
49:13
Speaker 1: like and as a friend and concerned, and then I
49:16
Speaker 1: also feel for Calin because of what was released and
49:19
Speaker 1: what's been talked about her, and so just feels like
49:22
Speaker 1: this is not like a light top maybe I think
49:25
Speaker 1: for him today. Yeah, it's just like, hey, this has
49:28
Speaker 1: been bad for a lot of people, and it's a
49:30
Speaker 1: it's been It's been seriously bad for a lot of people.
49:34
Speaker 1: And as a result, when bad things happen, like when
49:39
Speaker 1: we know there's an environment or something that is not
49:41
Speaker 1: healthy for us, why make a joke of it and
49:45
Speaker 1: go back? Okay, So I guess I just think that
49:49
Speaker 1: it'll be enough time will have passed where I think
49:53
Speaker 1: that all like time heals wounds right. And then I
49:56
Speaker 1: also I think that he's going to be a totally
50:00
Speaker 1: different person starting now. You know. I just don't think
50:05
Speaker 1: that Blake's ever going to be that playboy he may
50:07
Speaker 1: have been the past year. And I think that both
50:10
Speaker 1: Kalin and Blake made mistakes. Yeah, I think that the
50:16
Speaker 1: worst mistake of all of it was probably Blake. Blake
50:20
Speaker 1: releasing the text messages. It was pretty distasteful and not
50:24
Speaker 1: gentlemanlike of him. I feel um, but I feel like
50:29
Speaker 1: they'll be fine. And I thought it was all kind
50:33
Speaker 1: of like water under the bridge until last night and
50:35
Speaker 1: the whole controversy came up again. But it was pretty
50:37
Speaker 1: amazing how we really didn't think about the past four
50:41
Speaker 1: weeks as I didn't know, And that's the thing. It's
50:45
Speaker 1: like we've moved on from it, and so it brings
50:47
Speaker 1: us into them. Last night on the live show, we're
50:49
Speaker 1: watching this go down for Blake, and I want to
50:55
Speaker 1: I want to say that Blake. Obviously, it was a
50:57
Speaker 1: long conversation. Kalen got very upset. The biggest the biggest
51:03
Speaker 1: question to me was does Blake, oh Kalin an apology
51:09
Speaker 1: for releasing the text messages. I think, yes, I think
51:12
Speaker 1: he could have conveyed without text message proof. People could
51:18
Speaker 1: believe him if they wanted to believe him, and not
51:20
Speaker 1: believe him if they didn't want to believe him. But
51:22
Speaker 1: he could have said something just publicly about how his
51:27
Speaker 1: truth was a totally different thing than what she was
51:30
Speaker 1: saying on Bachelor in Paradise. And I think if he
51:34
Speaker 1: would have just let that week blow by without the
51:38
Speaker 1: text message release, it would have blown by, don't you
51:43
Speaker 1: Don't you think that the show kind of took care
51:46
Speaker 1: of him in a way because towards the end we
51:49
Speaker 1: were kind of rooting for his redemption. And I think
51:52
Speaker 1: that when he did release those text messages, he was
51:56
Speaker 1: really just like living and feeling in the moment and
51:59
Speaker 1: not thinking about how short term of a memory like
52:05
Speaker 1: bast Do Nation has a short term memory sometimes because
52:08
Speaker 1: next week we're always off to the next drama. So
52:11
Speaker 1: if he was just thinking a little bit more ahead,
52:14
Speaker 1: he'd be like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, it's gonna pass,
52:17
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna look fine, I really don't the show.
52:21
Speaker 1: Who's this? Very few people are very few few people
52:25
Speaker 1: demonstrate behavior on the show that is like persistently bad.
52:30
Speaker 1: There's not many Luke's out there. You know, almost everyone
52:34
Speaker 1: has a reputation healed in somewhere or another. Yeah, especially
52:38
Speaker 1: through Parodise. I feel like Periodise is there for redemption. Um.
52:43
Speaker 1: Actually one last question here. Blake sits there the hot seat.
52:47
Speaker 1: I think he knows he's wrong. Kyle though she's wrong,
52:49
Speaker 1: but the masses disagree with Blake. I felt like everybody
52:54
Speaker 1: in that cast group said, Blake, you've done this wrong.
52:58
Speaker 1: You need to apologize it. He still doesn't. Why has
53:02
Speaker 1: the masses gone against him? Then? If all of this
53:05
Speaker 1: seems have been cleared up in Paradise, why is it
53:08
Speaker 1: that they still are holding onto this resentment? Because what's
53:12
Speaker 1: happened between Paradise and that reunion show was the release
53:15
Speaker 1: of the text messages. Okay, all right, right, and I
53:20
Speaker 1: think that's what people found really disas well they dealt
53:23
Speaker 1: with all the other drama while they're filming in June. Yeah,
53:27
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Actually, once again, you are the expert. Okay,
53:31
Speaker 1: to close out this podcast, we have a lot to
53:33
Speaker 1: talk about. When it comes to this man, he will
53:36
Speaker 1: be the person who we talk about now for months
53:40
Speaker 1: and months to come. There's still a long time till
53:43
Speaker 1: we get to find his journey as the Bachelor continue.
53:46
Speaker 1: But Peter Webber Pilot Pete has been announced as the batchelor.
53:50
Speaker 1: Here's a little bit about Pilot Pilot Pete. He loves
53:54
Speaker 1: his family, he has has all the faith in the
53:57
Speaker 1: world that's gonna work for him, so he believes it.
53:59
Speaker 1: Loves ex thists from this show, and he's gonna follow
54:03
Speaker 1: Hannah Be's footsteps on how she did it. He's scared
54:07
Speaker 1: to death of dating thirty women, but he knows he
54:12
Speaker 1: knows that he can do it if he stays himself.
54:14
Speaker 1: And finally, one of the most interesting things is he's
54:17
Speaker 1: only five minutes from the mansion. His house where he
54:20
Speaker 1: grew up is five minutes from the mansion. The mind
54:22
Speaker 1: boggling part of it all to me, it's so weird
54:25
Speaker 1: because I remember the mansion felt like a different planet
54:27
Speaker 1: when I was there. Instead, he's gonna look out the
54:29
Speaker 1: back door and see this thing for himself. Okay, actually,
54:32
Speaker 1: there's some great candidates this year. Obviously, Tyler kind of
54:35
Speaker 1: took himself out of the running. Mike was up there
54:39
Speaker 1: and it was really I guess down to Mike and Peter, Uh,
54:44
Speaker 1: what do you think? How do you feel? I know
54:47
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some controversy around this. I know that
54:50
Speaker 1: people are going to believe that Mike Johnson should have
54:53
Speaker 1: been the Bachelor, But I also think people are super
54:55
Speaker 1: excited about watching Peter do Peter, and I think that
54:59
Speaker 1: people are really excited about the possibility of Mike and
55:01
Speaker 1: Debbi being together. So I think that people might, like, um,
55:06
Speaker 1: be a little bit more okay with the Peter decision
55:09
Speaker 1: if Mike does end updating Demi and they get to
55:12
Speaker 1: watch that unfold in you know, magazines and on E
55:17
Speaker 1: news and all that, I think that they I think
55:20
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are going to be upset
55:23
Speaker 1: with the fact that they seem to have a great
55:25
Speaker 1: candidate for the first black Bachelor and they didn't go
55:28
Speaker 1: for it. Um, Peter seems super sweet. Um, I feel
55:33
Speaker 1: like I don't have like a strong opinion on Peter.
55:36
Speaker 1: I think we had a lot to say about the
55:38
Speaker 1: past couple other Bachelor's that were, you know, announced the
55:43
Speaker 1: past couple of years for this podcast. You know, there
55:46
Speaker 1: was Nick and Ari and then Um Colton, and people
55:52
Speaker 1: had like really strong feelings again about those and this season,
55:57
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, Peter, yeah, he's sweet, He's like
56:00
Speaker 1: really vanilla, you know, I think that's what everybody would say.
56:03
Speaker 1: But I always trust the Bachelor producers in choosing great
56:08
Speaker 1: bachelors because they've done it time and time again. I
56:10
Speaker 1: know there's been a couple of question marks, but even
56:14
Speaker 1: the ones that people didn't like fall in love with
56:17
Speaker 1: as like human beings, maybe like Juan Pablo, they did
56:22
Speaker 1: provide outstanding entertainment. And all you guys really want out
56:27
Speaker 1: there is to be entertained and for it to be
56:29
Speaker 1: drama and juicy. And you know, we see Peter as
56:34
Speaker 1: an emotional guy. Nick was emotional, Um Colton was crying
56:40
Speaker 1: all the time. So those those do make for really
56:42
Speaker 1: good bachelors and we'll see, you know, all we really
56:46
Speaker 1: need is a very dramatic bunch of girls, which they
56:49
Speaker 1: always provide. What do you think about the choice, Ben,
56:53
Speaker 1: I think Peter is gonna be awesome, I do. I mean,
56:55
Speaker 1: I think Mike would have been great too. I don't
56:57
Speaker 1: think they could have gone wrong. I think the show
56:59
Speaker 1: will will have controversy, or this comment leading up to
57:02
Speaker 1: the show will because they didn't choose Mike. But if
57:06
Speaker 1: we just take everything into consideration that now Peter is
57:09
Speaker 1: the bad so that's not changing. I think he's gonna
57:11
Speaker 1: do awesome. I think he's gonna care deeply. Uh, We're
57:14
Speaker 1: going to see a beautiful love story unfold. I do
57:17
Speaker 1: believe that. And I think Peter is going to be
57:19
Speaker 1: authentically himself the whole time. And I do believe there's
57:22
Speaker 1: going to be a comfort because he lives so close.
57:25
Speaker 1: I'm excited for it. I'm a fan of Peter. I
57:27
Speaker 1: think he'll get very similar criticisms to what I did,
57:31
Speaker 1: um and ultimately at them as to what you did boring, Vanella,
57:39
Speaker 1: like I did say, Vanilla, you you know but you.
57:43
Speaker 1: I do feel as if they chose him because they're
57:47
Speaker 1: hoping that he's been two point out. Like I've been
57:51
Speaker 1: saying ever since we were introduced to him, that there
57:53
Speaker 1: is something reminiscent about you in him. And I don't
57:59
Speaker 1: know that's just because you're like these innocent, seeming all
58:05
Speaker 1: American men, but there's something. And I really think that
58:09
Speaker 1: you were in their heads when they thought about casting
58:11
Speaker 1: Peter Well then then I either way, I wish the
58:15
Speaker 1: best for him, and I hope Vanilla ben Well, I
58:19
Speaker 1: hope not. I can't really say that about myself, but
58:22
Speaker 1: I will say that, Um, for me, I really felt
58:27
Speaker 1: supported by the masses, and I really felt like people
58:30
Speaker 1: in kind of came along with me in this crazy experience.
58:35
Speaker 1: And I hope the same for him, and I hope
58:37
Speaker 1: when he gets off the show he feels that. And
58:39
Speaker 1: even if he is a little bit um, even if
58:42
Speaker 1: he isn't as as controversial, that's okay because it's really
58:46
Speaker 1: up to the women on the show to to bring
58:49
Speaker 1: the drama. And then also his only role is to
58:53
Speaker 1: pursue this thing with the best of his ability, and
58:57
Speaker 1: if he does that, I think I think all of
58:59
Speaker 1: us will enjoy watching. Hey Peter, congratulations, we have our
59:03
Speaker 1: new Bachelor. The Almost Famous podcast a stop anytime soon,
59:07
Speaker 1: so we'll be talking about the Bachelor for months and months,
59:11
Speaker 1: maybe years and years and years to come. Ashley, what
59:15
Speaker 1: a podcast, What a Bachelor in Paradise season. We've closed
59:19
Speaker 1: another book in the Almost Famous podcast history and there
59:24
Speaker 1: are some lovely couples to show for Ashley, once again,
59:28
Speaker 1: You're the best. We'll be back next week with some
59:30
Speaker 1: exciting conversations with Mike Johnson and Tasha will be live
59:36
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59:40
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59:46
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