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Mark interviews streaming host Bill O’Reilly. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: It's the Mark Simone Show. Live from the WOR LifeVac studios. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: with us right now, Bill O'Reilly, of course, the number
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  Speaker 1: one TV anchor for decades. He's the number one best-selling
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  Speaker 1: non-fiction author on earth, and his latest book is already
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  Speaker 1: a huge bestseller. If you haven't ordered it yet, go
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  Speaker 1: get it. It's out. It's Confronting America. He takes you
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  Speaker 1: through some of the biggest moments in American history over
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of decades. He was there on the
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  Speaker 1: front lines. It's quite a book, Confronting America. Order it now. And,
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  Speaker 1: of course, go to BillOReilly.com. You can get his column,
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  Speaker 1: the TV show. Watch his podcast. We'll do it live,
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  Speaker 1: the Bill O'Reilly YouTube channel. You can get everything at BillOReilly.com.
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  Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm already busy. It's just Monday, right? Is it just Monday? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: After a miserable weekend, it's Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I don't even know what day it is anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm doing okay. How about you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. Hey, you spent some time in
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  Speaker 1: China recently. The visit with President Xi, President Trump, very respectful,
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  Speaker 1: very cordial. Was he too cordial to him?
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, look, China is a very, let's see
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  Speaker 2: what word I want to use, unpredictable place. And You're
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  Speaker 2: not going to get anywhere browbeating them or insulting them.
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  Speaker 2: You're not. So it's a waste of time. So the
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  Speaker 2: only other avenue is to flatter them. Trump is good
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  Speaker 2: at that. Yeah. And that's what that was all about,
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  Speaker 2: to try to get Xi, who's a dictator, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't have to consult with anybody, to like Trump
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  Speaker 2: so that Xi doesn't go out of his way to
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  Speaker 2: hurt the USA, which he could. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But is it that simple? A guy like Xi in China,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, I like the guy. I mean, it's like
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  Speaker 1: a gangster. They can't help themselves. They got to do
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  Speaker 1: something bad to people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a bad guy. He wears a little Mao suit.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when I saw that, I went, oh. But
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  Speaker 2: we have to deal with bad guys. And that's that.
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  Speaker 2: And people who live in a bubble or live in
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  Speaker 2: a world that doesn't exist, oh, we'll confront them. No,
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  Speaker 2: you won't. Because then you think Iran's tough? Yeah. You
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  Speaker 2: get involved with China?
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  Speaker 1: Come on.
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  Speaker 2: And then the AI stuff is just coming to a
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  Speaker 2: point where most Americans don't even know what's on the horizon.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote a column, and it was posted on BillOReilly.com,
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  Speaker 2: wrote it yesterday, my Sunday column. And I looked at
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  Speaker 2: how many reads there were on the column, hundreds of thousands,
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  Speaker 2: but not what it is for a celebrity. So if
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  Speaker 2: I interview a celebrity, we got a lot more views
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  Speaker 2: than we did this AI stuff. That tells me that
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  Speaker 2: most Americans, they're not locked into this yet. And you
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  Speaker 2: better get locked in because these hackers, which are going
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  Speaker 2: to work in conjunction with the AI, they have the
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  Speaker 2: potential to really cause massive trouble, not only to the world,
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  Speaker 2: but to you. And they're hacking medical records and financial records,
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  Speaker 2: and Congress has got to step in and get involved.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously it's a huge hacking problem. But Bill Gates
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  Speaker 1: on the Sunday show, you know, he said it's going
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  Speaker 1: to kill billions of people. We'll all be dead by Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: It's not as bad as he makes it out to be,
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  Speaker 1: is it?
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  Speaker 2: Not yet. No. Not yet. But if they don't control
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  Speaker 2: the miscreants who are desperately trying to get advantage in AI,
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  Speaker 2: like China, I mean, just think about where did COVID
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  Speaker 2: come from? I think it was China. Yeah. This is
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  Speaker 2: a million times worse. And when you read the column,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll do it live. If you don't want to read,
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  Speaker 2: you can just watch what we did with this MIT professor.
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  Speaker 2: They call them rogue agents, but they're not really human.
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  Speaker 2: They're machines. And they just go out of control and
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  Speaker 2: don't obey orders. what their masters tell them to do.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, a five-year-old, no, that's not good. Yet most
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  Speaker 2: Americans are concerned, right, still, still, the gasoline, the food prices,
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  Speaker 2: I understand, but boy, oh boy, this is coming fast,
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  Speaker 2: this AI stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and what you're talking about is the part of
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  Speaker 1: the AI you've got to worry about is what they
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  Speaker 1: call the recursive AI, where it can break out of
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  Speaker 1: whatever limits it has. It can reinvent itself. It can
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  Speaker 1: go totally rogue. But as Bill Gates and these other
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  Speaker 1: guys point out, there's actually no such thing as a
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  Speaker 1: kill switch. That's a myth, a total myth.
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  Speaker 2: And it gets stronger.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: See, right now, most of these AI companies can rein
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  Speaker 2: in something that's going wrong. But in a year from now,
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to be able to do that. Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: So whatever is going wrong is going to continue to
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  Speaker 2: go wrong because there's no way to stop it at
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  Speaker 2: this point. Now, I assume the CIA and the American
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  Speaker 2: government is trying to get enough power in cyberspace to
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  Speaker 2: head this stuff off. But China's not. Just China wants
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  Speaker 2: unrestrained use of A.I., And that's what Trump's worried about.
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  Speaker 2: Trump doesn't buy into the Armageddon situation. He goes, if
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  Speaker 2: we clamp limits on AI, China will dominate all over
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  Speaker 2: the world. And you have to take that seriously as well.
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  Speaker 2: But my opinion is that Congress has to pass a
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  Speaker 2: series of new laws that if you are involved with AI...
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  Speaker 2: And doing something badly, you go to prison for a
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  Speaker 2: long period of time. That's the only inhibitor I can see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But we already have those laws, don't we? Liability, product?
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  Speaker 2: No? Not really. You got civil laws.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But you don't have federal laws. Some states have them,
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  Speaker 2: but they're soft. And there's no investigative agency. We need...
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  Speaker 2: And AI, FBI, that's a lot of initials, but we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to have a federal agency with the
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  Speaker 2: power to surveil what the deuce is happening here. And
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  Speaker 2: most Americans, it gives them a headache. They'd rather watch
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  Speaker 2: the game or the movie or whatever. They don't want
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  Speaker 2: to get involved with this. But I'm telling you, we've
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  Speaker 2: been warned.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm. Hey, Bill O'Reilly's new book, you've got to get
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  Speaker 1: this book. You'll love this book, Confronting America. It takes
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  Speaker 1: you through a lot of American history, and he was
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  Speaker 1: there for it. We've never had a time where half
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  Speaker 1: the country wanted to wipe out the other half politically.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, go back to the late 60s. A bunch
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  Speaker 1: of young college types hated the old people. But this
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  Speaker 1: is all ages, this political war, civil war. We've never
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  Speaker 1: had anything like this, have we?
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  Speaker 2: No, but it's temporary. And I say that because if
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  Speaker 2: President Trump did not confront Iran, the Republicans would coast
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  Speaker 2: in the midterms. That changed everything, not one action. And
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  Speaker 2: you remember I was on your program, and I said
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  Speaker 2: it was the biggest scandal of President Trump's life, the
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  Speaker 2: whole life, confronting these guys, because they don't care if
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  Speaker 2: they live or die or if their people live or die.
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  Speaker 2: That's a tough enemy to fight. And it's gone south.
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  Speaker 2: And because it's gone south here, there may be a
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  Speaker 2: political change in Congress, which is scary because these progressives, socialists, communists,
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  Speaker 2: whatever they may be, they're dangerous. But I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be that overwhelming. Democrats think it will be.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Republicans at this point will hang on
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  Speaker 2: to the Senate.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. All right. Well, that's good news. Bill O'Reilly's
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  Speaker 1: new book. You want to get the book. It's really,
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  Speaker 1: really good. Confronting America. It's already a huge bestseller. But
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  Speaker 1: order Bill O'Reilly's new book, Confronting America. The podcast will
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  Speaker 1: do it live. You've got a new episode coming this week, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have. I'm going to the White House on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: We got Peter Navarro.
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  Speaker 1: Very good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, boy, that's going to be something. Because he
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  Speaker 2: hates China.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he knows a lot about it.
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  Speaker 2: And his office, yeah, his office is right across the
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  Speaker 2: hall from Trump's. So that'll be an interesting discussion. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll drop that on Thursday. We have the AI stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff. Take a listen to the podcast. We'll do
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  Speaker 1: it live. Watch Bill O'Reilly's YouTube channel. Get the book.
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  Speaker 1: I'm highly recommending this. book, Confronting America. And, of course,
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  Speaker 1: go to BillOReilly.com. Bill O'Reilly, thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Mark. Thanks for having me.
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