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BPS 482: How a Hollywood Creature Creator Made His First Feature Film with Hiroshi Katagiri · Bulletproof Screenwriting™ Podcast

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  Speaker 4: Joining me today is Hiroshi Katagiri. Hiroshi has worked in
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  Speaker 4: the special effects field for over twenty three years and
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  Speaker 4: he's worked on films such as Escape from La Pacific, Rim,
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  Speaker 4: Cabinet in the Woods, and he's currently working on his
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  Speaker 4: first feature film, Gahana Hiroshi, how are you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, good client, Thank you so, Horoshi.
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  Speaker 4: Just to get started, the first question want to ask
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  Speaker 4: you is how did you get started in the film industry?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? After that was like a born and raised in Japan,
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  Speaker 5: and I just wanted to do special makeup effects and
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  Speaker 5: working for like Hollywood movies. So after graduating high school,
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  Speaker 5: I just moved to Los Angeles and just when today
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  Speaker 5: know the makeup school like for the ten ten weeks
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  Speaker 5: and which is pretty short. Then I started building my portfolio.
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  Speaker 5: Then applied to some studio and I just started as Inton.
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  Speaker 5: When I was nineteen, I met the guy named a
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  Speaker 5: screaming Matt George. You know he he he owned a studio,
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  Speaker 5: makeup effects studio. He had to work for like a
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  Speaker 5: Photogeist two back then or abyss then. Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 5: I just started as an Inton. There that's my beginning.
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  Speaker 4: Oh cool. And then you know, I see then you
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  Speaker 4: went on to work on projects to Escape from La
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  Speaker 4: and Pacific Rate. Yeah, so how did you get started
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  Speaker 4: working on those those projects in the beginning?
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  Speaker 3: Ah?
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  Speaker 5: Wow, I Escaped from LA. It's a what a horrible film.
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  Speaker 5: It's funny you mentioned that title, but it's the basically
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's so just ninety one my like I
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  Speaker 5: first started, and it's like a golden age of makeup
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  Speaker 5: effects industry. You know, it's like lots of like a
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  Speaker 5: direct video about it movies and you know a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of big movies. Okay, everything was happening in La, so
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  Speaker 5: like everybody's working pretty much. So and also it's kind
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  Speaker 5: of small community, so you know, you get to recommendation
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  Speaker 5: for you or from other plays and the other studio
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  Speaker 5: and so always get cold. So that's the if you
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  Speaker 5: keep doing a good job. You just keep asking for
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  Speaker 5: work HM and getting getting jobs.
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  Speaker 4: So, Rosie, if you had any advice for like a
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  Speaker 4: beginner who wanted to do what you do, what would
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  Speaker 4: that be?
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  Speaker 5: It's the UH, basically, just don't wait to learn from
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  Speaker 5: the school or anywhere. If you like it, you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: start building your own. It's many ways you can get
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  Speaker 5: the instructions, you know, from internet or just you. You
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  Speaker 5: you've gotta iss you like it. That's a proof that
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  Speaker 5: the issue without the forcing by anybody, if you if
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  Speaker 5: you can start building your own you know something anything.
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  Speaker 5: So that's the uh, that's the first advice. You know,
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  Speaker 5: you have to like it, then you have to prove it.
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  Speaker 5: So building your portfolio to start.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really good advice. Yeah, and I think that
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  Speaker 4: that's true too for you know, if if they want
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  Speaker 4: to be a writer a director, and you know, they
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  Speaker 4: have to you know, it's it's a little easier now,
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  Speaker 4: they say, because obviously with with the way cameras are now,
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  Speaker 4: you can you don't now need to shoot on film anymore.
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  Speaker 4: You can you know, shoot on digital and you could yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, but with special effects like that, you
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  Speaker 4: still need to have makeup. You still need to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: mold things like you do. I mean you make those,
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  Speaker 4: I mean amazing. I saw that one you do a
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  Speaker 4: Pacific rim and you had that mini Buddele and I
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  Speaker 4: mean that was just amazing artwork.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: And uh and I also saw the thing a different
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  Speaker 4: Cabin in the woods you made Merman. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 4: mean that that is you know, that takes a lot
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  Speaker 4: of artistic ability to do that. Yeah, even with the
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  Speaker 4: even with the advent of the digital. But I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I can see what you mean. So do you recommend
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  Speaker 4: that anybody who wants to do this, do you recommend
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  Speaker 4: they should be in l A.
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  Speaker 5: Well not really. You know, nowadays it's the la it's
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  Speaker 5: the I would say, like a lost place for working
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  Speaker 5: for the major movie. Yeah, I recommend go to like
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  Speaker 5: Vancouver or the London mm hmm. Yeah, they're making more
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  Speaker 5: movies now over there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. And uh, you know, Georgia was just ranked as
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  Speaker 4: the number one place in America right now that's making movies.
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  Speaker 5: Oh really Georgia. Wow?
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  Speaker 4: And number two is Louisiana.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I've been there a couple of times for several
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  Speaker 5: different movies.
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  Speaker 4: Oh really, really, Louisiana.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the green lantern and the oh no, just a
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  Speaker 5: green lantern.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so what models did you make, what special effects?
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  Speaker 4: What did you do for the green lantern?
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  Speaker 5: During the Abncer character? Yeah, yeah, I sculpted the makeup
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  Speaker 5: for Abincer and dead body of him.
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  Speaker 4: Oh cool.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh, makeup design for Sinestro Ellen. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 5: just the first makeup design that I sculpted on his
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  Speaker 5: life cast and just you know, for the test.
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  Speaker 4: Sinest is played by Mark Strong. And was it turned
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  Speaker 4: It was pretty good?
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  Speaker 5: Well work, Yeah, it's an unfortunately, really it was horrible. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And the many digital digital characters, then the Avinsa stands
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  Speaker 5: out pretty well because it was makeup mm hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh and Sinestra on the and you know
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  Speaker 4: some of the villains and that were just some of
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  Speaker 4: the most minerable parts.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the Hector too. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So so you know, around two thousand and six, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you've been working for for a couple of years, you
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  Speaker 4: decided to direct your own short film, Interest Pulse. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: What experiences did you encounter when you first made that film?
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  Speaker 5: The biggest issue for me is, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 5: the native English speaker, so the writing is the biggest issue.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I just started writing, and I think I
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  Speaker 5: started in Japanese and then just I made the English
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  Speaker 5: myself and I just give it to my friend American friend,
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  Speaker 5: and he the correct or the language mistake, and he
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  Speaker 5: brings me back and then when I see that and
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  Speaker 5: the new ones and some details like if I feel different,
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  Speaker 5: then I just change it then just giving him back.
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  Speaker 5: So just back and forth so many times to get
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  Speaker 5: the script. So it took me like I was working
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  Speaker 5: full time in the makeup effects industry also, so it
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  Speaker 5: took me six months before I start filming. So that's
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  Speaker 5: the biggest hardest thing, you know, for starting the movie.
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  Speaker 5: And also I'm pretty specific about the visuo how to shoot,
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  Speaker 5: and so the script has to be done and I
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  Speaker 5: have to be in my mind has to be completed,
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  Speaker 5: you know, film has to be finished in my mind
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  Speaker 5: before I shoot. So it's harder before shoot, then then
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  Speaker 5: once shooting starts. In schools a little bit easier because
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  Speaker 5: I have vision already.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, so do you storyboard a lot or just
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  Speaker 4: mainly have it in your head?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, a storyboard yep.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I found that to be a very
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  Speaker 4: invaluable tool as well is that, you know, storyboarding and
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  Speaker 4: even I don't think they're in my opinion, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think you can really storyboard too much because if you
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  Speaker 4: break down it into very even most minute details and
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  Speaker 4: have it along the wall, or have it or however
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  Speaker 4: in a pamphlet lever, I think it really helps not
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  Speaker 4: only you but everybody else understand what actually is going on.
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  Speaker 5: In the movie. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yep.
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  Speaker 4: And so you know, I had David Hall on the podcast.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you're familiar with David Holly as
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  Speaker 4: a script consultant, but he always recommends having horror as
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  Speaker 4: your first project. Yeah, because horror movies are you know,
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  Speaker 4: quote unquote easier to do because obviously horror is a
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  Speaker 4: character of the movie itself.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have to depend on actors per se, you
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  Speaker 4: don't have to depend on a location per se. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, horror is sort of it sort of goes
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  Speaker 4: across all boundaries and all cultures and all language barriers.
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  Speaker 5: Do you feel the same, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: So then after as you shot a pulse, you've shot
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  Speaker 4: two of the short films which are crayon and Hindsight.
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  Speaker 4: Now did you now with polst crayon on Hindsight, did
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  Speaker 4: you craft on any of these projects?
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  Speaker 5: What's the question?
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  Speaker 4: Did I with a post crayon on Hindsight? Did did
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  Speaker 4: you crowd find any of those projects?
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  Speaker 5: No, it's all my personal money, but the money I
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  Speaker 5: spent for all three movies, but maybe like three thousands
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  Speaker 5: all together. And the first of all, you know, it's
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  Speaker 5: all the effects pretty much free, because you know I
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  Speaker 5: do and I have a friends, and all I need
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  Speaker 5: is material. And then of course all my friends helped
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  Speaker 5: everybody like actors and DP and I didn't have to
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  Speaker 5: rent anything or the pay to anybody. And I was
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  Speaker 5: so fortunate, you know, I got the all talented people
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  Speaker 5: just helping out. So and also just writing is so important,
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  Speaker 5: So I just write the story. I decided the location first.
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  Speaker 5: Then okay, so here, I see, I gotta use this house.
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  Speaker 5: Then everything, every drama is gonna happen in just this house.
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  Speaker 5: Then what can I make? So that's my start to
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  Speaker 5: make the movie, so which I I know I can't
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  Speaker 5: spend too much money, so then I just yet location.
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  Speaker 5: It's so important. Then I just think of the idea,
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  Speaker 5: what can I do you know, to to shoot in
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  Speaker 5: a single location make it interesting?
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  Speaker 4: So and you know errors that idea has seen that
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  Speaker 4: it works very well too in recent years with like
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  Speaker 4: your paranormal activity that I have shot in Orren's house
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  Speaker 4: and it made hundreds of millions of dollars and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: a thirteen thousand dollars budget. And when you shot these movies, Horoshi,
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  Speaker 4: did you have a skeleton crew or did you drive
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  Speaker 4: a fairly large crew?
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  Speaker 5: Oh? Skeleton crew. It's the very minimum, maybe twelve people
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  Speaker 5: all toogether, and sometimes like four people in some day
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  Speaker 5: and there's four people everybody, including an actor. Yeah that's
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  Speaker 5: the wasting one DP me, one actor and one eighty
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  Speaker 5: that's all.
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  Speaker 4: So now you put those three shorts together at DVD work,
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  Speaker 4: can people finally a hord theater as for that's the
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  Speaker 4: name involve Thro Movies combined. Where can people buy that
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  Speaker 4: hard Theater DVD?
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  Speaker 5: Oh just check on the Amazon then starched by j
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  Speaker 5: Horra Theater then you can find it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I'll put it into that two up on
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  Speaker 4: the show notes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you well. Also, and you can just watch
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  Speaker 5: it free on my YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 4: I'll put a note. I'll go link to that too.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, so when you were making these movies, Toro, and
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  Speaker 4: as you make films today, you know, who are your
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  Speaker 4: filmmaking inspirations.
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  Speaker 5: It's a yeah, it's a tough question. There's so many.
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  Speaker 5: And uh, when I was younger, my favorite director was
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  Speaker 5: the Robot Themikis. So I love the like Back to
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  Speaker 5: the Future series, especially it's so entertainment, and it's the
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  Speaker 5: the horror too. And I take The Horrors not as
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  Speaker 5: a scary movie, but you know, still entertainment movie. And
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  Speaker 5: I have to entertain audience. And Themikis was and Spielberg
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  Speaker 5: and of course and those those guys are incredible for
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  Speaker 5: amusing people. I mean later period, you know, they changed,
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  Speaker 5: but the earlier days especially and of course Cameron, James
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  Speaker 5: Cameron and uh yeah, a huge influence. And especially the
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  Speaker 5: fact I was like a fifteen years old and there's
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  Speaker 5: a double feature in Japan, uh, Aliens and The Fly
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  Speaker 5: and Shocking Day. Shocking Day. Yeah, just watch the Aliens
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  Speaker 5: and blow my mind. So amazing. And I was expected, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: no way, it's no way. It's the next gonna be
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  Speaker 5: next to the movie, will be as big as this
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  Speaker 5: one and then watch The Fly and its amazing too,
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  Speaker 5: so much in one day. And as there's a huge
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  Speaker 5: influence for me like a James Cameron and The Cloning
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  Speaker 5: burg Yeah, and as many many directors, many movies. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it's like I can't speak forever, but horror movie. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: As I mentioned on my project, is the uh that
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  Speaker 5: why I Zone got a huge influence. You know, it's
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  Speaker 5: the it's really low budget and depending on the actors
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  Speaker 5: performance and idea of the story and always you know,
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  Speaker 5: there's ending. It's got it's really shocking and surprise ending
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  Speaker 5: and that's the model of my story always. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it's the I was so interesting to just keep watching
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  Speaker 5: and then at the end just uh surprising, Yeah, just
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  Speaker 5: the yeah, all setup is it's just amazing. So probably
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  Speaker 5: you know, the biggest influence me is the those t
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  Speaker 5: White eight Zone, especially for my movie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, I'm a big fan of Jay Horror.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I just heard that the remaking audition, which
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  Speaker 4: is by Takashi McKay. Really yeah, they were making American
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  Speaker 4: made audition. Now, okay, so have you seen audition? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: of course, yeah, you know, and you know that reminds me,
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  Speaker 4: they're the same model where it's almost like there was
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  Speaker 4: another the feature like Pulse and there's like the one
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  Speaker 4: miscall and there's a whole with Jay Hart. It's more
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  Speaker 4: of an unsettling I guess I would say, yeah, the
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  Speaker 4: actual scare or herror, you know what if it don't
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  Speaker 4: mean but but it does it very well. And I
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  Speaker 4: was just wondering, you know, how good the audition, because
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  Speaker 4: the Japanese audition was was pretty gory. Yeah, so the
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  Speaker 4: thing I don't think they'd be able to do Ami version.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, my uh scaredness taste is more. Yeah, j horror.
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  Speaker 5: It's the Japanese like a creepy style and auditionally excellent movie.
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  Speaker 5: I love it too, but I'm not good at the
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  Speaker 5: like a torture or the painful scene or movie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's the Evil Dead. I loved Evil Dead, you know
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  Speaker 5: the first one, the reasonal one Sam rhymes yes, And
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  Speaker 5: there's a scene of the stabbing is the ankle with
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  Speaker 5: the pencil. That scene I couldn't watch, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: watch the countest time of you know that movie, and
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  Speaker 5: only that scene I couldn't watch as always closed my eyes.
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  Speaker 4: So you have a new project called Khanna acts. It's
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  Speaker 4: your first film project, so so why don't you tell
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  Speaker 4: us about this? Akahana saidstory. I know this is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: your first feature film. I know it's it's very important,
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  Speaker 4: so why don't you tell us about it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? So I so the next big step is that
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  Speaker 5: can make feature film. I made the three shorts already
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  Speaker 5: and then uh so the feature film. I just needed
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  Speaker 5: the great idea. And also I'm gonna take advantage of
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  Speaker 5: my background, which is I was born and grown up
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  Speaker 5: in Japan. And then I mean, I'm in the industry
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  Speaker 5: for like over twenty years in the American uh makeup
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  Speaker 5: effects industry. So then I was thinking, what can I do,
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  Speaker 5: you know, to take those advantages. So then I I
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  Speaker 5: found a good location, which is taxt Place in Saipan,
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  Speaker 5: so sideplane is the huge battlefield between Japan and America
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  Speaker 5: during the World War Two. And then then also the location,
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  Speaker 5: I know it's it's gonna be frost feature movies, so
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  Speaker 5: I cannot spend too much money, so I just the
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  Speaker 5: thinking of the story that's the text place in isolated place,
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  Speaker 5: which is the Japanese secret military base from World War Two.
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  Speaker 5: Then I got a great idea for that and so
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  Speaker 5: it started maybe just got this idea, start writing maybe
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  Speaker 5: eight years ago, and took so long as the as
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  Speaker 5: may you know, complete the script and I show my friends,
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  Speaker 5: correct everything as they read, change it many times, and
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  Speaker 5: I try to apply for like a Japanese movie. I
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  Speaker 5: just rewrite everything in Japanese also, and trying to the
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  Speaker 5: pitch to the direct producer of the Wing and when
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  Speaker 5: he told me he's looking for English the script, so
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  Speaker 5: then just rewrite that. So it's the crazy story. So
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  Speaker 5: it took me like seven eight years to complete the
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  Speaker 5: one script. And of course because you know, I'm working
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  Speaker 5: full time in the makeup effects industry. But anyway, so
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  Speaker 5: this movie is so important, you know, so all my desire,
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  Speaker 5: long time desires is in it, and I'm just spending
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  Speaker 5: all my effort to make it really really interesting movie
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  Speaker 5: and a scary movie.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, anything more I should speak about the and just
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  Speaker 6: the synopsis of so far of Gahana is yeah, uh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, an American real estate agent finds, you know,
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  Speaker 6: looking for a real estate project in in Saipan, and
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  Speaker 6: you know she ends up finding you know this World
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  Speaker 6: War two uh bunker in this place, and then obviously
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  Speaker 6: that's where you know all hell brings.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And as they encounter the creepy, super creepy
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  Speaker 5: old man which you can see in the my Kickstart
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  Speaker 5: A campaign Doug Jones playing it, and then accidentally they
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  Speaker 5: killed the old man. Then some explosion happening, so you
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  Speaker 5: don't know the cause of explosion. Then everybody knock knocked
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  Speaker 5: down to the floor and lose conscious. Then when they cup,
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  Speaker 5: then old man's gone. And before that they find the
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  Speaker 5: dried up cops from somewhere it looks like a Caucasian
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  Speaker 5: in a Japanese military base. Then then all those cops
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  Speaker 5: is gone too. Then also the exit is closed, so
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  Speaker 5: they are trapped inside. And then just right on the
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  Speaker 5: way too, you know, the looking for the exit from there,
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  Speaker 5: then they encounter the the like a mysterious series of
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  Speaker 5: mysterious events, and each one has the fear for something.
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  Speaker 5: Then then they have a hallucination or they experienced the
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  Speaker 5: those fear each one. Then yeah, then then at the end,
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  Speaker 5: you know there's the all the answering who was the
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  Speaker 5: old man or the where the dead body gone? And
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  Speaker 5: if they can get out or not. You know, every
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  Speaker 5: answer is you know, there's there's surprising.
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  Speaker 4: At the end, awesome and it does sound really cool.
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  Speaker 4: I've actually I've actually pledged your kickstarter and uh, you
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  Speaker 4: know I watched the video twice. It actually is very
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  Speaker 4: well done.
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  Speaker 5: Oh thank you?
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  Speaker 4: Uh and uh so? And also how did you end
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  Speaker 4: up getting Doug Jones on the project? And for those
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  Speaker 4: who don't know who Doug Jones is, He's done a
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  Speaker 4: vol you know, a lot of work with uh uh.
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  Speaker 5: Del Toro, Yeah, Panz Labins, Yeah, heh boy, Eddies a
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  Speaker 5: PM and uh angel O death many any any skinny
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  Speaker 5: creatures in fording Sky TV right now. Yeah, he's an idiom.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks helped me out there. He appreciate I forgot
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  Speaker 4: his movie for pans Labyrinth. But how did you get
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  Speaker 4: on board the project?
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  Speaker 5: Okaydkna is of course you know famous among us, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I I worked with him for many many different films
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  Speaker 5: like A Time Machine or The Doom and the her Boy,
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  Speaker 5: Her Boy too, Buffy, the Vampireslayer, There's so many as
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  Speaker 5: the every time when we make something skinny character, it's
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  Speaker 5: always him. Yes, he knows me and I know him
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  Speaker 5: and uh and I just email him that if he
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  Speaker 5: could support my kickstarter project and he yeah, and he's
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  Speaker 5: just totally cool, such a nice guy.
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  Speaker 4: And that's amazing, and uh it just goes to show you,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you have to make relationships in this business.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's so fortunate. Yep.
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  Speaker 4: So so HEROSI. What are your plans for the release
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  Speaker 4: for Gahana?
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  Speaker 5: Oh the plan for for the release?
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  Speaker 4: Are you opening to thiss theaters or just like vod Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, my Uh the ideality love to release in the theater. Then,
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  Speaker 5: uh so there's a way. That's the reason I'm using
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  Speaker 5: a Kickstarter is you know, there's a several ways to
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  Speaker 5: get funded for movies. So I could approach to a
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  Speaker 5: distribution company to to get funded and if they like,
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  Speaker 5: of course, but what comes with it with the money
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  Speaker 5: is the their control for the movie. So it's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of things. The Uah, My my plan is before
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  Speaker 5: looking for distribute distributor, I make just great, great film.
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  Speaker 5: Then then I just look for the distribution. So that's
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  Speaker 5: the yea, that's this idea.
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  Speaker 4: Very cool. Yeah, so you're you're currently you know, crowdfunding
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  Speaker 4: on your kickstore for Gahana. Yeah, I'm going to link
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  Speaker 4: to the kickstart in the show notes. So I mean, honestly,
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  Speaker 4: if anyone's listening, I really recommend you check out Hiroshi's
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  Speaker 4: video for it. I check out, you know, the project page,
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  Speaker 4: because it's actually a very cool, well done video. It
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  Speaker 4: looks like it's gonna be a great project.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: And Roshie. So, you know, in closing, what were any
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  Speaker 4: projects you have in mind for the future. I know
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  Speaker 4: you probably dont want to answer that question because you're
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  Speaker 4: so busy with Gahana, But but is.
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  Speaker 5: There Yeah, I do, I do it. Yeah. So I
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  Speaker 5: have another script called the Basido. You know, it's the
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  Speaker 5: uh it's a job I practiced I kiddo for like
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  Speaker 5: a twenty three years, in the same as my career
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  Speaker 5: twenty three years, so it is my instructor. I just
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  Speaker 5: the wrote a script to show the value of the
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  Speaker 5: baser Rats. So American Guy's a main character and it
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  Speaker 5: takes place in Japan. It's like last summer I meet
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  Speaker 5: Karate Kid. And but you know, that's a bigger, bigger movie.
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  Speaker 5: So then I need to you know, of course I
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  Speaker 5: want to direct. Then in order to direct that, then
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  Speaker 5: I have to make smaller movie to start, and as
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  Speaker 5: I need the experience to direct the feature film. So then,
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  Speaker 5: which you know, Agahina is my first film. It's a
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  Speaker 5: low budget and takes advantage of my career. So the
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  Speaker 5: second one, I'm looking for making the action, but I
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  Speaker 5: want to create a bunch of characters creatures and the
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  Speaker 5: characters which the cool makeup effects, so something you know,
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  Speaker 5: I can get the expots of course, and all my
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  Speaker 5: friends got to support me for that. It's the other
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  Speaker 5: cool practical effects Christian movie with action. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a ninja scroll. Yeah, it's something like that. But again
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  Speaker 5: you're trying to make it cheap too. Like it takes
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  Speaker 5: place in one mountain, so you know, guy wakes up
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  Speaker 5: and he he he has no memory, and he's wondering
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  Speaker 5: who he is. And uh then some some like the
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  Speaker 5: characters are attacking him and he has a bandage wrapped
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  Speaker 5: his hand is wrapped in a bandage, and then he
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  Speaker 5: like his instinct he avoiding is using his hand. Then
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  Speaker 5: the bandages fall off and that's a creature hand. Then yeah,
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  Speaker 5: once his hand exposed and he kills everybody like a
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  Speaker 5: like a crazy power he has. Then uh then struggle
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  Speaker 5: in his discovery of who he is and who the
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  Speaker 5: enemy is and he trying to find out you know,
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  Speaker 5: that his iiding identity. So in a bunch of characters,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like an injust scroll with special power characters.
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  Speaker 5: And visually it's cool, but you know, first of all,
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  Speaker 5: I have to focus on the Hannad to to complete
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  Speaker 5: fund it first of course it's a complete yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I have more ideas in the future.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome, you know, with a keto, it's interesting, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a kia really you know, it was big in the
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  Speaker 4: nineties when Steven Sagall was you know, doing his movies,
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  Speaker 4: and now it's sort of yeah, you know, they say
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  Speaker 4: that every decade has its martial arts. The nineties was
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  Speaker 4: a keto. Now it's like mixed martial arts. In the
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  Speaker 4: eighties it was kickboxing. In the seventies it was kung
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  Speaker 4: fu and the sixth Karate.
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  Speaker 5: So it's they.
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  Speaker 4: Always say that everywhere in the eighties also is ni jitsu.
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  Speaker 4: But they always say that every decade. But it'd be
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  Speaker 4: cool to see a keto come back, especially the guys,
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  Speaker 4: because when they can actually you know, use the throws
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  Speaker 4: and and stuff like that, it's you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 4: pretty interesting, you know, and you know, because now it's
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  Speaker 4: it's more of like a Brazilian j jitsu thing. But
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  Speaker 4: I've actually practiced a kio, I've practiced Brazilian ju jitsu
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  Speaker 4: and co.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually practiced at a play exercise in Philadelphia
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  Speaker 4: and it was actually the the oldest judo club on
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  Speaker 4: the East Coast and uh it's been a for for
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  Speaker 4: years upon years and uh uh they practiced judo, keto
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  Speaker 4: and Brazier ju jitsu.
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  Speaker 5: Oh that's cool, that's great.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's pretty cool. But yeah, I've done that practice,
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  Speaker 4: and I know exactly where you're coming from.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's many like old old techniques. You know,
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  Speaker 5: you're something you have never seen in the movie yet.
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  Speaker 5: Then I'm just researching and you know those and my
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  Speaker 5: instructor has got lots of idea and it's preeny interesting.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just making test action action cuts, and uh, you
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  Speaker 5: want to show something unique and it's not a typical
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  Speaker 5: like a Steven Cigar ikido or the you know some
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  Speaker 5: some other movies just don't want to make something new,
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  Speaker 5: new action.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm waiting for Systema to make it.
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  Speaker 5: Stay Ben, Yeah, I met the u Mikairi.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, Mikael Ribocal Yeah, yeah, he hit me pretty late,
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  Speaker 5: but he was maybe, yeah incredible. Where did you mean
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  Speaker 5: him at in Japan? Actually? Oh yeah, I had the
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  Speaker 5: scouting semina in Japan and when I was there, that's happened.
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  Speaker 5: He has a semino was there in the same same area. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's just that ended and it's a great experience.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a pretty interesting morsal. I actually didn't learn
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  Speaker 4: from him, but one of his disciples, disciples Vladimir Vasili
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  Speaker 4: in Canada, one of his guys, uh actually started training
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  Speaker 4: with him. Oh cool, so that's that's what I'm doing now.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a small world, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love the training messo. You know, it's it's great.
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  Speaker 5: It's very similar to philosophy. Is really similar to a kido.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and uh, I you know that similar to it? Also,
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  Speaker 4: I nurse a one.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about relaxation. But yeah, it's it's it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 4: And uh so, uh should you know Rosia. I know
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  Speaker 4: you're a busy guy. I know you're busy with the
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  Speaker 4: movie everything, So I won't I won't keep you anymore.
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  Speaker 4: But is there anything else you'd like to talk about
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  Speaker 4: that that we haven't touched upon.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to just to say about Okay, Hannah,
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  Speaker 5: you know it's the uh, this is a really really
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  Speaker 5: great original story. You know, I don't I don't know
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  Speaker 5: anything similar to this. It's pretty original. And uh, the
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  Speaker 5: visio of course, you know, it's the Uh. I'm working
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  Speaker 5: with the top effects guys in in the water. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's gonna be a great movie. And I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 5: turn it down time you guys down. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: a great movie. So please please support my movie and
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  Speaker 5: please lens. So that's my message.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah again I repeat Heroshi's message. I would advise
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  Speaker 4: you guys to check it out linked to the show notes.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's just gonna be a cool, really
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  Speaker 4: cool project. And uh and uh you know, I hope
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  Speaker 4: you guys check it out and donate. Haroshi, thank you
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  Speaker 4: very much for coming on. Yeah, thank you, thank you anytime.
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  Speaker 4: And all right, and make sure you check out Horoshi.
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  Speaker 4: It's called Gahana, which is g e h A n
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  Speaker 4: n A. It's the Facebook page no no g e
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  Speaker 4: h E. And then oh, I'm sorry. I let's bat
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  Speaker 4: on my g E h E N A and and
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  Speaker 4: A yeah and uh and also you could hesh. Is
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  Speaker 4: there a website any we can view work at?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, gehinnafilm dot com mm hmm yeah, and then you
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  Speaker 5: can look for the Facebook and ge Hannah and h.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you coming on again. Yeah, thanks so much anytime, buddy.
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  Speaker 4: Take care, Yeah, take care.
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  Speaker 3: I want to thank Dave so much for doing such
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  Speaker 3: a great job on this episode. If you want to
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  Speaker 3: get links to anything we spoke about in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to guys, as always,
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  Speaker 1: keep on writing no matter what. I'll talk to you soon.
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