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40: Put You On : Demetrius Harmon |#isawthisontheinternet · The Bald Brothers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What up y'all at your boy camp on stage? This
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  Speaker 1: is put you on with our esteem. Guest fashion designer, owner,
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  Speaker 1: curator of You Matter, the one and only Demitrius Harmon,
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  Speaker 1: the artist formerly known as meach On Mars. An amazing
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  Speaker 1: talented person. We're gonna get into You Matter. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the show, Demetrius Harmon. Now, if you're not like me,
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  Speaker 1: and you haven't lived the majority of your life on
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  Speaker 1: social media, you might not know this. I look at
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  Speaker 1: you can look at me. If you want to speak
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  Speaker 1: directly to the people, you can look at that camera.
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  Speaker 1: But you just talk to me. We were just having
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  Speaker 1: done this. I mean that sound good. How old are
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  Speaker 1: you real? Quick? Meet?
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  Speaker 2: Twenty five?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is very weird. Weird at the young
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  Speaker 1: age of twenty five, you are an og of social media.
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  Speaker 1: You were one of the first, uh super being black miners,
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  Speaker 1: so you must have been. I was like fifteen, I.
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  Speaker 3: Was doing in high school. You were a child.
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  Speaker 1: You were my son's you were younger than mine.
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  Speaker 2: You met me when I was like nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Ah ah, because I moved here when I was eighteen,
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  Speaker 3: So you met me when.
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  Speaker 2: I was nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: You were nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, like I think when we did the
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  Speaker 3: Great Taste, Great Taste, I was nineteen because I also
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  Speaker 3: had that was the first time. That was the first
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  Speaker 3: you matter hoodie that made that I wore an episode
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  Speaker 3: and so ya I was in nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: Dang, I'm aging. Yep, you really are. You could literally
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  Speaker 1: be my child almost.
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  Speaker 2: I like to think of myself as as a bonus.
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  Speaker 1: Day uh pulling up a little bit meat or or
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  Speaker 1: there you go. Uh dang, dang. So you've had like
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  Speaker 1: a ten year career already almost.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, because I started well, I started on
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  Speaker 3: YouTube when I was so it's been a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: So you're young old when it comes to that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you've had like like, bro, you ain't the game as
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  Speaker 1: much as me, but you're just fifteen years younger. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: what I'm four forty Okay yeah man, yeah, okay, So
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  Speaker 1: let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Look, you look forty. You'll give forty the bald head,
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  Speaker 2: don't give it. But you've been bald this whole time.
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  Speaker 1: I've been bald a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah even if you if you if it was like
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  Speaker 3: a progression, if you're getting balder, it'll be like one
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  Speaker 3: of them Bosley commercionals.
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  Speaker 1: I just let it go. I let it go one
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  Speaker 1: day and I was done. So let's go back to vine.
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  Speaker 1: Right what I imagine, like most people at that time,
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  Speaker 1: you was just you was just popping, like you just
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  Speaker 1: making videos and having fun. Right when did you know, like,
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  Speaker 1: hold on a second, my videos are doing more than
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  Speaker 1: most videos because you were like in the top twenty
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  Speaker 1: creators period of Vine. When when did it start to
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  Speaker 1: feel different for you? When I was in.
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  Speaker 3: Did summer after junior year of high school? Okay, but
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  Speaker 3: senior years where it was like, oh okay, this is
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  Speaker 3: any thing?
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  Speaker 1: Was it a certain video? Was it like a wave?
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  Speaker 3: It was I want to say it was like a
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  Speaker 3: wave of like consistency. So it would be like one
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  Speaker 3: video making like a million views, and like mine, that's
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  Speaker 3: a lot. You know what I mean because you can
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  Speaker 3: see your views up top and it just slowed loop bros.
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  Speaker 1: You see I mean luc got Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I think the video that I made because my
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  Speaker 2: best friend was like doing very well one who's your
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  Speaker 2: best friend? Dope? Violin?
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  Speaker 1: Oh Angela, Okay, I didn't. I never saw him on
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  Speaker 1: vine as much he was.
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  Speaker 2: He inspired me to go harder online.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really, It's like I want to say, junior year
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  Speaker 3: of high school before the summer.
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  Speaker 2: It's this thing called ring zoo dot com.
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  Speaker 3: You can see how many you game to day, and
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  Speaker 3: he was getting like twenty thousand followers a day. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, no, I have a like I mean like
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  Speaker 3: every day he dropping like two videos. They getting like
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  Speaker 3: ten million loops. This is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So I had.
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  Speaker 3: Just start trying to make a video every day, regardless
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  Speaker 3: what the idea was and how like stupid it may seem.
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  Speaker 3: And then they started like latching on. And then senior year,
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  Speaker 3: I just knew I wasn't going to college because of mine.
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  Speaker 3: Well I didn't like school. Oh okay, I was doing
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  Speaker 3: horrible in school really yeah, I wasn't paying attention.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was like.
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  Speaker 2: It was just like I'd be up because I haven't
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  Speaker 2: sawn me.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be up at night go to school. And they
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  Speaker 3: didn't make it no better because I had a job.
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  Speaker 3: I was wearing a little seasons And if you had
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  Speaker 3: a job, you could leave school two hours early. Oh
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  Speaker 3: I'll go to school from like seven to eleven eleven
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  Speaker 3: am and leave.
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  Speaker 1: Why could you just leave early because it's like you
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  Speaker 1: got real life already.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so you could have elective.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so my elective took up my last two hours
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  Speaker 3: because I only have four court classes, So I knock
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  Speaker 3: all my four classes out and then lunch would start.
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  Speaker 3: But while I go to lunch, if I'm not coming
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  Speaker 3: back last, so I just leave at eleven and then
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  Speaker 3: feel like a YouTube video wow, and then I go
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  Speaker 3: to work at like four o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Dangn you the whole life. Yeah, sixteen Yeah, two jobs basically. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because creating content is especially at Vine, and that's why
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all ever created vines at the time,
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  Speaker 1: when you were doing it, you had to shoot and
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  Speaker 1: edit inside a vine, yeah, and it was there was
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  Speaker 1: no app outside at the very beginning. You had to
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  Speaker 1: like if you mess up, you able to delete it,
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  Speaker 1: like you was really doing that and then going to work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot. I mean it wasn't that hard.
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  Speaker 3: Like since I had been on Vine since the first
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  Speaker 3: year came out, you kind of knew what you needed
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  Speaker 3: to do and like how to do the cut scenes
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  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But there definitely was like third
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  Speaker 3: party apps that you could download and pay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, eventually I remember there was like stuff you could do,
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  Speaker 1: but early, early, no earlier.
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  Speaker 3: It was disgusting. It was because if you get a
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  Speaker 3: take it right, but you hear like a go at
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  Speaker 3: the beginning, it's like, yeah, I just got to leave
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  Speaker 3: it in there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but it changed.
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  Speaker 3: I think they I think by the time, like like
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  Speaker 3: I said, when it started popping, like and I was
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  Speaker 3: gaining a lot of followers and gained a lot of trash,
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  Speaker 3: was like it was the last year of Vine, okay,
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  Speaker 3: because Vine got deleted when I graduatedro high school.
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  Speaker 1: So Vine was only what was it only like three
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  Speaker 1: or four years?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it came out when I was in ninth
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  Speaker 3: grade and it got deleted when I graduated.
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  Speaker 1: Dang, I didn't realize it was that shorter time. I
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  Speaker 1: felt like it was longer than that.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was very sure.
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  Speaker 1: It just was so social, like some people who were
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  Speaker 1: viners are still looking Paul, the Paul Brothers, Uh Katie
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  Speaker 1: Donna found on Vine. King Batch started on I mean
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of people right you as well? So
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  Speaker 1: what was that like? Were you getting brandos and stuff
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  Speaker 1: at that time?
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  Speaker 2: No, I said, nigga too much for That's still my
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  Speaker 2: problem to this daydog. Yeah, they was like, let the
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  Speaker 2: cut to the word.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, and you know how like the thing
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  Speaker 3: is to get like branded deals for a six second video,
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  Speaker 3: Like it's hard to convince somebody that I should pay you.
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  Speaker 3: It's disgusting, Like there's like there's nothing I could do
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  Speaker 3: in that six seconds to convince somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so were you getting was it YouTube paying
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  Speaker 1: you at the time? Are you just doing it for love?
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  Speaker 2: Then?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was definitely for the love.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely.
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  Speaker 1: YouTube is faming.
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  Speaker 3: But it was like YouTube checks yeah yeah, yeah, So
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't nothing that was like changing my life, but
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  Speaker 3: there definitely was that.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a company called Collapse yea, I remember the
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  Speaker 3: people that would do vine compilations.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: So then they basically would just take the revenue that
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  Speaker 3: those people were making for the vine compilations and give
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  Speaker 3: it to you, excluding my property, and then give it
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  Speaker 3: to us.
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  Speaker 1: Was that good money? Yes? Really it was great money.
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  Speaker 1: It was great money.
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  Speaker 2: It was great.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I was bro because I didn't even think
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  Speaker 3: about that of that stuff. Yeah, just making I'm not
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  Speaker 3: because there was no way to monetize on right, right,
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  Speaker 3: So they like, yeah, we monetage your content, uh, and
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  Speaker 3: it will take anybody who has your videos and these
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  Speaker 3: are like thirty minute videos with like two million beauty,
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  Speaker 3: and it would be like a bunch of them, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And I remember the first check
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  Speaker 3: was straight.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a senior in high school, right, I'm working at
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  Speaker 3: a little seasons. I'm w and I hate im like
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing this like the board outside, that's what you're doing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I was cooking inside too, But like if you yeaheah,
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  Speaker 3: you were. It wasn't crazy effort, like it was like hey, guys,
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  Speaker 3: hot and ready, but it was you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: You were one of those people who was like this
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  Speaker 1: is my craft.
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  Speaker 2: Oh No, I wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, not at all.
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  Speaker 3: But it definitely was embarrassing because it was like two
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  Speaker 3: minutes away from my high school. Oh and this is
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  Speaker 3: by the time, I never talked about what I did
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  Speaker 3: on social media, but because I'm a senior now, because
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  Speaker 3: it was like blowing up. People in school now know
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  Speaker 3: of me without me ever having spoken to him because
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  Speaker 3: of Vine.
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  Speaker 2: And so that that that collapse check came in and
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  Speaker 2: changed my life.
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  Speaker 1: Did you throw the side down?
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  Speaker 2: No? They fired me.
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  Speaker 3: Why the manager didn't like me, he said, I can't
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  Speaker 3: give enough effort. But it was like, nigga, bro, we
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  Speaker 3: make pizzas. You over me Like he wanted me to
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  Speaker 3: just be like enthused, and it's like, Bro, the thing is,
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing my job.
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  Speaker 2: Like you don't know what a rush looks like to you.
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  Speaker 2: Are in the middle of Dearborn, Michigan during Ramanan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, making a million vegetarian pizzas and we got Hallo Pepperoni.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just both burners on.
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  Speaker 3: I'm cutting pizzas, I'm making the pizzas, I'm building the boxes,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm taking orders.
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  Speaker 2: It's nothing else. I'm not going.
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  Speaker 3: I have nothing else to give you. My my, my
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  Speaker 3: enthusiasm is gone because we just cleaned out all the utensils.
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: Starts saying the sundown, We're about the clothes. You just
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  Speaker 3: it's like fifteen orders of pizza per family. It was disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: This is like out of context saying, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: have allow of pepperoni. Funny in the context the story,
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  Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense. But out of context, I never
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  Speaker 1: thought out to hear you saying, you know, we had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Bro, they're hitting us up and there's
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  Speaker 1: a five dollars hot. Yeah. Yeah, we got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of going crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And the problem is it's like, well, people don't understand
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  Speaker 3: about Jesus, which is why I hate it work here.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a fast food pizza place. That's how people
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  Speaker 2: treat it. They'd be like, oh, yeah, what we we
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  Speaker 2: run at High Rais. We gotta make more and.
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  Speaker 3: A pizza doesn't get made in fucking two minutes, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So it's like then we gotta
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  Speaker 3: mix like because they make like they prep them. It'd
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  Speaker 3: be like forty in like a little stack. Yeah, and
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: then they'll already have like probably like ten fifteen depending
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  Speaker 3: on them hour. Yeah, and then they'll throw twenty high
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  Speaker 3: radies in. But then we get like a custom order
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  Speaker 3: where we need like ten vegetarian pizzas. We got to
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  Speaker 3: wait till the High Rais. You got the way you
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  Speaker 3: gotta bake them too exactly, we gotta bake them then
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  Speaker 3: church people coming well done.
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  Speaker 2: It's just too much.
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  Speaker 1: You can order pizza well done?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah what you mean?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know you had a choice. Little Caesars. It's
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  Speaker 1: five dollars whatever I hand you.
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  Speaker 2: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 3: People think that's the only thing we got, so we'd
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  Speaker 3: just be running out of pizzas and we won't got
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  Speaker 3: hot and ready.
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  Speaker 2: It's like they turn into like Black Friday customers.
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  Speaker 3: They just get very upset.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's disgusting, little just getting abused by.
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  Speaker 3: You know how you go to look like if you
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: went to McDonald's, like fries and then like, oh, we
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: ain't got any fries right now, got fries, it's your
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: whole things go narchries.
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  Speaker 2: You got Little Seasars, it ain't.
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  Speaker 1: Got hot ready.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you got HoTT and ready. It's hot and
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  Speaker 3: ready pizza pizza, you know what I mean? So's I
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  Speaker 3: seen the commercial man find out a hot and ready
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  Speaker 3: pizza pizza.
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  Speaker 1: Can't go to five your part is hot and ready,
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: and the pizza pizza people be pissed when they're hungry too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I have it the fact that you have to go
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  Speaker 1: to Little Caesars. It's not your first choice. So if
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  Speaker 1: I go to Little Seasons not ready, now I'm pissed.
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  Speaker 1: All I got is the five man.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, that's like it is we got crazy bread.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like I don't like the smell of parmesan.
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you know crazy bread that's in
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  Speaker 3: this big ass bucket. And whenever you like run out
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  Speaker 3: on the shaker, you gotta dip your whole head in
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  Speaker 3: the bucket. So I just go home in my two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and three cord An orange T shirt with a
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  Speaker 3: little Caesars man on it, smelling like parmesan.
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  Speaker 2: For the whole day. And it just was, it just
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  Speaker 2: wasn't cutting it. Dog Little Seasons, Hell, I love those seasons.
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  Speaker 3: If I could own a Little Seasons, I would, really,
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  Speaker 3: but I never working one again. Oh my god, that's bigger.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: It's bigger. Bigger is the playing Little Seazars arena now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Little Seasons from you trot though.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that Little Seasons was gone for like
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  Speaker 1: eleven years. It was not it was going out here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it never left Detroit. That ship got us through
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  Speaker 1: the recession.
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  Speaker 3: The recession, yea, yeah, it was Little Seasons and Boulet
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  Speaker 3: movies and that ship got us through.
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  Speaker 1: Little Seedars held us down.
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  Speaker 2: Five dollars and it never changed. It's like six dollars now, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: fine enough, do what you need to do. You've paid
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  Speaker 2: your dudes.
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  Speaker 1: When I used to be a youth pastor, the Little
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  Speaker 1: Caesars was the only thing them kids ate. Twenty dollars
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  Speaker 1: buys a lot of pizza. Who cares if it's good?
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  Speaker 2: Like forty bro, and it's gonna be good though, yes, because.
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  Speaker 1: You getting paid for it. You're fifteen. Shut up. He
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  Speaker 1: just allowed Pepperoni, So okay, So you blow up on Vine.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know the trajectory because I feel like
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: after Vine, I feel like I saw you the most
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: on Twitter. Yeah, you in Dope Island. I mean you
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: have some legendary skits. I mean you and him as
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: God in mos I mean just Goldielocks in the Three Bears,
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  Speaker 1: just and the funny thing was like you, the production
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: value was non existent, but the videos were so funny
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  Speaker 1: it didn't matter your funniness, I don't I always tell
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  Speaker 1: people A lot of times, people think I need this
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: right camera, the red ari. If you are funny, you
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: can have low quality. If you're not funny, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter if Steven Spielberg shoots your video. You're not funny.
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  Speaker 1: People will deal with a lot if the funniness is
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  Speaker 1: worth it, and you and his videos were worth it.
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  Speaker 1: So tell me what it was like to pop again.
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  Speaker 1: And you guys were just trending and trending and trending.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, what was that like at that time
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  Speaker 1: because you were very young still and going crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't drink alcohol, like when one like the
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Adam Eve came out, we were like twenty.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, it's very hard here. I wasn't understanding all
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: you were in time. I just don't. You are much
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: closer to my children's age than mine. You are closer
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: than my son's age than you are to my age. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how did you think I was thirty? Don't know, Beach,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's not focus on it. It's a
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  Speaker 1: big source spot for me. My son is driving. Tell
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  Speaker 1: me about how you felt when you're blowing up again
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  Speaker 1: on another platform. It felt good, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean it didn't really like I want to say. When
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: I first moved here to La that was right when
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  Speaker 3: Vaughn got deleted, Like I got deleted that summer, so
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: that I moved here in November.
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  Speaker 2: And I was just living here for a year and
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  Speaker 2: I really know what to do.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: I was an acting class. I really enjoy acting class.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: But it was just like I was living with five
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: other people. So it's hard to like have my scene
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: partner come over and practice and have some type of
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: quiet space. So I kind of gave up on that.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I really didn't know what I want to do, but
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: I knew I didn't want to go to college. Yeap,
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: So I just came out here and I told Angela,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you move out here, let's get together, get
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: apartment together, and we do that. Yeah, And I had
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: I not that I had already been doing YouTube still,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: like more full time because vine was going. But uh,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, we should make YouTube channel together because we'd
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: been best friends since a pride.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, Ok, But he went to a completely different.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: School than me, so we didn't see each other on
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: the weekdays, so our vines were never together.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Got it?
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Like actual skits we made on mine were never together.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Like we posted video of it's like dancing music or
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: something like that. That was just because we hung out
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: on the weekend. But when we finally got to see
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: each other, we would hang out. And so I'm like
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: we couldlay together, we make YouTube channel and just at
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: the minimum pay our rent and most do whatever else.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: We want to do.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: And I think like the first.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Video we made was just about like fish poop.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: And it was like I had cause he still lived
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: He still lived in Michigan at the time, so I
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: had when we were feeling at my mom's house and
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: it was just like like a fish trying to flirt
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: with a girl and he like poops, you know, like
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: the poop floats up, and it's just like it goes
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: into that. Now that the first video we had did
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: together and really well, and then we finally moved in
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: together and it didn't feel like anything. Honestly, I feel
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: like I was making stuff with my best friend and
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: then like you of course see where it's going, so
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: you're trying to keep that momentum. But it really was
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: just as easy as that. Like we I typically would
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: just have idea and Angelo like, I think we should
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: make a video about Goldilock and three, and.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: We wouldn't have no like, no script, no, everything was improvised.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Yet I think that's how we talk to each other.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: But like the Goldilock video, I think the only thing
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: like we always have how maybe how we wanted to
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: end or like specific parts.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, if it was Adam and E video,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I think it'd be funny if like Forbidding
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: was written on the apple, you know what I mean,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: we have to prepare.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Other than that, it would just be here you start
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: the camera.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: He started talking and now I'm just reacting to what
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: he's saying as Adam or Eve.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: That's so y'all. I mean, the mystery makes more sense now.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: But like the fact that y'all didn't prep the lines,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: like y'all just vibing and it's like that funny no
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: writers people like, like, that's a really insane talent for
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: both of y'all. And then also in sane chemistry.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just best friends. That's how we talk.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: That's actually how we naturally communicate each other. And I
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: think that's what made us start doing skits. Like while
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: we started doing it in the way that we do
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: it is like our level of our comedic sense. It's
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: the same whenever meet him talk and find something funny,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: we just build on and build on it and build
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: on it. Like he'll say a joke, I'll say a
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: joke to build on that joke, and then he'll.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Continues to do that.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: And I think using when we film it would be
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: like whoever starts it, it's kind of like what it's
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: kind of like improvising on stage. Yeah, so like if
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I say, we're on a lawn, now you gotta ride
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: with me, and at any point you could take this
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: a whole different direction. So he'd be saying something. Now
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: react to what he's saying and just taking what he's
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: giving me and will just go with that scene until
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: we break character and as soon as we break care,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: like what we usually do when we break care. Because
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Angelo edited all the videos and that's why they were like,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I can't edit chaotics.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: How he does like you know what I'm saying, I
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: can't edit chaotics.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Well because he like it's just it's so much happening.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: And that was like the secret recipe to like, of course,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: like the footage is funny. For sure, thought the footage
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: was funny, but it'd be like he's editing. He's like, oh,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: we need a voiceover in the background here very distant
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: like meets you go to the back room, I'm gonna
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: push record at the front door and just yell and so.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Like just little stuff like that, like like Angel makes music.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, I thought I saw he's like
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: a rapper too.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, now he like he already knows how to
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: think about how it should how the sound should fill
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: up the space?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Got it? Did he move back to Detroit too?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: No?
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: He lives here.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Oh he stayed here. He never went back with you.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: He went back before I went back, and then when
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I went back, he went back here. Oh really very stupid,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: like the year. He lived there for a year and
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: then when I decided I was moving back, he's like yet.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about you matter. Okay, you guys have
• 20:14
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  Speaker 1: specifically do well and I'm very curious how you do it.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: You have these drops that are themed that are like
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the University was a great one. You Matter Racing was
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: another great one. You had this marketing email that explained
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the pre order process. I stopped doing pre orders because
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I get frustrated explaining how it works and people just
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: ignore him. And also, I think Amazon hurts hurts us
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: because you are used to getting things with it in
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a day or two, even if you don't realize it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: You're just used to order now and that thing comes
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: to like usually within seven days almost, but Amazon like
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: two days. So it's conditioned most people to expect it
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: in that amount of time. But that small businesses we
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: cannot operate at that speed. So pre orders taking three
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: or four weeks or a month, they're just like you've
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: stolen my money. Now, Like I can sometimes do it
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: with my audience, but it's sore. I don't even do it,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and it's a better business model because I can't afford
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to have a whole bunch of dead shirts. I wasted
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: so much money on the drop because I was done
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: with pre orders. You don't know how much I wish
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I could have pre ordered that, because if you weren't
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: gonna buy none, then it excitedn't have to order none.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: But I ordered an excess because I'm like, this is
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: fit to change my family's life. Yes, and of you
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: are going to lose a lot of money and the
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: way you do this is gonna change. Forget me. Where
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: did you matter come from? Because I imagine it's a
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: big part of your business now, So what was the
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: idea for it? Then I'll ask more questions after you
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: answer this one.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a long Wines story, long iness story you
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: want to.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I want the story. This is your story to tell.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I would love the version you would want to tell.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: So I I'm the youngest child of three older brothers.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: The one that's closest in age to me be besides,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: my newest young brother is seven years.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Older than me.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you can imagine when they're in like high
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: school and when they're becoming themselves. I'm still in like
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: second first grade, yes, because yeah, so they don't want
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: to hang out with me things like that versus before
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: when I was a kid, never closer in my age,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: video games stuff like that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had a lot.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I went from being like very like a lot of
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: people around the house always to like it just being me.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: My parents and I would just start being on like online,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: and my friend showed me this, Uh it's an online
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: video game called Naruto Arena and they had a forum
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: and and people. That's why I introduced to graphic designing,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: because you know when people make like signatures that are
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: like images. So I was, ah, I used to do this.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I'm very young, but I torrented I pirty it photoshop.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: That's why they make you subscribe now because everybody was
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: because it was like fire bugs. Niggas ain't got it, man,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I'm selling pizza for a liv.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Updated drop a newon what are we doing?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: But I talked myself aout photoshop when I was really young,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: and then when I was in like six or seventh grade,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I still was like at photoshopping, you know what I mean.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: And I was a pretty like quiet reserve kid. Like
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I used to want to be like an author of
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: like mangas, you know what I mean saying. So I
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: didn't make a lot of friends through like being social.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I made a lot of friends from like being a
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: kid on Facebook that will like design your propibity.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Got it? Okay?
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: So through like me doing that work.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: On Photoshop and then posting on Facebook, I like gotten
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: this Facebook group for graphic designers. And I always try
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: and figure out a way to like monetize graphic designing.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: And I think that might just be like from me
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: being like coming from the parents I come from, like
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: always looking for a way to like hustle.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: My mom used to go to like Canal Street and
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: like Michael Jordan Jerry's sell them in our basement, you
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: know what I.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Mean, filip from like that. So I always just had
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that in my mind.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: And this dude in there had a clothing run and
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: he was using one of those sites where you upload design,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: send people to it, you get your commission off of it,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: and they handle everything. So that's where I introduced to
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: like using to where creating clothing was a medium I
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: would use to express anything I wanted to, like say, Okay,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: So I was doing that in like seventh, eighth grade,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: ninth grade, tenth grade, all the way through like to
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: now that's where I gonna start with clothing. And I've
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: been someone that struggles with depression and like mental health
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: issues with that, like anxiety or insomnia, since maybe I
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: was in sixth grade, okay, and so.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I just I never felt like that was a safe place.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I never felt like that was a thing I could
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: talk about, you know what I mean, Because your world
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: is as limited as usually the walls that you're in.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: So that's like my home, and back then it wasn't
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: like you talk about stuff like that, you know what
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I mean. And so I escaped towards like Tumblr, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: I would like write my poems and post my poems
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: on tumblring like share very raw feelings.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Same time Vaughn is working, so like I'm being loved
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: on for.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Like a specific part of me, which is like the
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: comedy that's coming from pain yep. And I just got
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: used to show an that side. So I stopped doing
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: all that together, you know. But Tumble's a bit underground
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: versus like Facebook or Instagram like that, so it never
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: really hit the masses until I want to say, like
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: maybe eleventh grade, I had said something, but I still
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: have a little bit of followers, and I had stopped
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: that in my tracks when I mentioned something about my
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: mental health because someone in school was like, and what
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: was going on?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Like your tweet like tweet that you want to kill yourself?
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: And I couldn't. I couldn't deal with it in real life.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: It was easier for me to post on social media.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Strangers might give me, regardless of stranger responding strangers. If
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: someone I can see every day in school to know
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: something like that about me, I was scared. Yeah, I
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: like backed away from him for a while, and I
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: was just struggling a lot twelfth grade year because I
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: knew I did horrible on SAT. I knew I wasn't
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: going to college. I didn't apply to any college at
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: any point. And there's a lot of pressure too, you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: like people around like you're gonna make six second videos
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: the rest of your life, or like, you know what
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, My dad like what's your plan?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I don't have a plan, you know what I mean?
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: And I went back to going to closing a little
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: bit after I had like I always used to write
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: like in my journal when you write poetry, Like I
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: love writing things down to the point where I had
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: a chalkboard wall.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Oh really, I've made my.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Give me a drug world war. So I was writing
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: stuff down, but I had like a post it and
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I was just writing down like affirmations for myself.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: But I kept ending it with like matters.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: So like if you look at the first you matter
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: who the ideas, it's like your emotions, your mental health,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: like things like that are on this bicep. Because those
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: are the things that I was relating to. Is like
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: my creative creativity means something, you know what I mean.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: And like when I finally looked back at it, after
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I was done with that moment, after I like was
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: a little bit okay, Like when I found those stick
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: you know, something like oh this like encompasses me, Like
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: it's not just the funny you're You're not just the
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: funny part of me, not just a sad part of me,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Like the whole being that I am mean something to
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: his world and that's where you matter him from.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: That's beautiful, that's amazing. So let me understand this because
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm picking this up. Do you actually design.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: These most of them.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: If I need like help, I have like friends that
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: do graphic designer, but they're all like typography, so it's
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: pretty easy for me to do. And if not, i'll
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: like like the try stuff like I drew that down,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: like how underlogan is into a friend and he did it,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: or like the racing like the same thing. I drew
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: it down and friend turned into like a graphic and
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: we turned into a tech pack and then it gets produced.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: But most stuff, yeah.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Wow, I knew you were talented. I knew, but I
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: did I didn't know you were the actual designer for
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of these. I like doing the marketing more though,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: let me tell you and I'm I'm listen. One thing
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I'm really good at is marketing, right. It's probably one
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: of my better skills, more than being funny or many
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: other things. I can sell you on something. Do you
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: matter marketing? You just you get it smart, it's fun,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: it's young, You've spread the gamut of people with looks,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you've got, disability, you've got you really went to college
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: for the you mat a university. Probably my favorite campaign
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: that was just I was just filled with rage, like pride, jail,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: let's get a rage because I was like, I can't
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: do this as well. It was around the time I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: was sucking so bad at that merch. But where do
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you think that marketing thing came from? Because I've seen athletes, actors,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: NBA PO, I mean, I've seen everybody rocking you Matter
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: stuff like it connects to a lot of people, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that all started in your mind. Like where do you
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: think that innate marketing skill? Like obviously didn't go to
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: college for it, Like where did it come from?
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I'm just genuine. I think
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: that's really all it is. And like.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I don't try to like ifever I release something that's
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: not like you Matter started because of me, started from
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: my story.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: So I don't want to be the poster child for this.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: But like I know, Okay, someone might be out there
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: and they might not feel like anyone else insists are
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: going through in relation to their depression.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: So like when I did you mat at university? I'm like, bro,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't go to college, and.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Like I'm speaking at these schools and I don't get
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: to say I'm coming from my home mater, like I
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: have no home or foundation. So the first thought I
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: have of that is like, well, this is what I
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: decided to do my time instead of going to college,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: the matter is could be my university. Yeah, and then
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: from there it just went to that, you know what
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I mean. But I always imagine, like what was school
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: looked like? If I like, what was I never got
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: to go to like these parties?
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I never you know what I mean.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: It was at a cafe on campus. Like I don't
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: have any of those experiences. So the first time we
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: introduce you matter of university, it was very important to
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: me to like paint the picture like I want.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I believe a lot in like world building, you know
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: what I mean. So like the product is the product.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: You don't have to buy the product, yeah, but I
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: want you to at least see why this product even
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: made it here.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like in front of.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: You, what does this represent for me?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I'm still in all this. Oh this is great, keep going.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: It's it's just a matter of like it come from
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: a real place.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: So even like the racing too, you know what I mean,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Like when we were shooting it, it was like a
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: lot of old school Ferraris and things like that. And
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I was telling the team on board that day I'm like, yeah, like,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I like this, but I'm gonna go talk to my doctor.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: My doctor is a car collector. I'm talk too, doctor,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: and that's who I want to be the face of this.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Your actual doctor, Yeah, my actual doctor, doctor William Puschell.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Like he collects old school cards so like the sixties corvettes, wow,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and like has awards all over his office since I've
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: been a child, you know what I mean. But the
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: reason why I did it, you matter racing is just
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: because of the motor city. Yeah, so it means something
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: to me. So I'm like, I want this very perfectly
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: articulated throughout the collection. And it could be through words,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: it could be through the photos, it could be through
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: the product. I know that, Like there's multiple ways to
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: communicate something, but I think a consumer or anyone viewing
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: something just appreciates when something is like honest.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: You remind me of like Jerry Lorenzo. You're familiar with him,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Jerry Lorenzo, Rest in peace, Virgil Eyeblow, the dude who
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: does kiss Ronnie something Ronnie five? Yeah, me neither, but
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you remind me of them. The way they the way
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: you see your uh company, your brand, uh, the the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: attention to detail you have for like when you made
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the hoodie with the satin claw right like I got
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Black women. You want to protect your hair, you can
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: put it on. Like your attention to detail. The quality
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of the stuff too, Like listen, we all start from somewhere.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: A lot of us start off with guilding gilded unhooked,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of us up a little Caesar.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: They got ression put us through.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And also gilden has more quality. I didn't realize they
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: got some eye and stuff too. And you can white
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: label some guilded. Take that tag off. Put your niggas
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: won't know it's guilded unless you're in the business, right,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: but you have that, say, I can see you having
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: that same level of success like the Running Fact Due
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: just did a collab with the New York Giants, and
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I can see because you're authentic, I can
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: see a Detroit collab with the Lions or Little Caesars
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Or I can just see your
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: brand getting that big. Do you feel like because you
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: comedically act, you do this, you cook as well, Like
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I want to get to that too. Do you have
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: like a pull towards one or the other, or do
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you just feel like, Okay, I'm gona expressed myself this way,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and then I'm expressing myself that way. You know what
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I think, like right now.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: It's just a matter of like figuring out what is
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: the best way to like honestly portray myself.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: So, like when you matter, I've been working to continue
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: to separate it from me just so that like it
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: can exist on its own too. Okay, But I want,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: like the ethos behind it allays be like things that
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: are like that I feel deeply about, you know what
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I mean. A big thing is always like giving back,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, regardless of what it's about,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, regardless if it's directly too.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Like we donate to organization's very important to me to
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: also donate directly to individuals.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Is that where the scholarship came from.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the scholarship came from that. But we had to
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: do Black Business Grant during Black History Month and I
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, we could probably keep this going, you
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I think I've done two
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: a year of two scholarships before, but the pool is
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: definitely like I feel like I wasn't.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I wasn't.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I stopped being like in the social media line life
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: for a little while and like now I'm not like
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: afraid to post anymore.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk about that too, Right, because
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I follow you and I'm a fan. I feel like
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: anytime you get attacked, right, you the person from me.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And this happened also with Lizzel. This this person put
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: this very clear that you have your fans, people who
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: support you, and they will give you the benefit of doubt.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: They want to listen. They have people who are on
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the side and like how you respond, they're going to
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: decide they're gonna continue to support you or they're not.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have people who never liked you and
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: they're gonna capitalize on this moment and they're just gonna
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: be like, ah, this nigga finally did something so early
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: in the you Matter thing. Let me know how much
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: you're comfortable talking with this if you're not with okay
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: earlier that you Matter history.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I was hoping you wasn't uncomfortable with me bring yet No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's part of your story, right, you used
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to do this thing, Like if you've ever hurt yourself
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: or harmed yourself, like, let me know basically, and I'll
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: either give you a discount or give you a free
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: hoodie because I've been there. And when I saw that,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like that's I love that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: You know, that's smart, not smart, but like that's genuine.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: That's what I felt like. It was genuine if you're
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: struggling and you know the money, because the hoodies were
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: like eighty bucks, right, sixty bump peoples to get on
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you so tough.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: About that eighty nine it was sixty, yeah, sixty.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: At that time, people would be like, you're robbing me,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Like this is a product that you can choose to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: buy or not. Why are you so mad? You don't
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: have to buy this? People be so livid. So you
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: would do that right, and you did it a lot.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like you've done.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: So one time on our favorite site, Twitter, that that
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: thought became twisted. Right. People online took your what I
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: feel like, took your authentic, genuine desire to give back
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: and to see somebody who probably isn't being seen, and
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: they said they put a negative spin on it, and
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: it was like, oh, if you hurt yourself buy my hoodeye.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: He't like, you cut yourself and you do this, and
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, that's not what he was saying.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: But nobody cares, you know, it actually cares on Twitter,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: they don't actually care.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Right. But to the person, I always say, it's not
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the world, But at the time, it feels like the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: world is on you. Like you feel like torches, like
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: they're watching to your house to like hurt you. Right,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: So I want to know what was that like navigating
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: that which you were probably eleven years old at the time.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: You boy fucking.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: But you are a very young man.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like twenty one maybe.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're twenty one. You are having success, You're navigating
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the Internet, and then all of a sudden you got
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: vitriol coming at you and you don't there's no handbook
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: for this. This is not the thing hardly anybody in
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the world ever has to go through. Period. I know
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: that was terrible because I've been home the side of that,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: but not even as bad as you. What was that
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: process like, because I know it changed how you won
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the Internet.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't just that one thing. It was
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: like a commelation of things. Okay, you know what I
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: mean of like different cancelings. So I want to say
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: maybe it was like a building up, like it was
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: like and that's that's probably why it happens, because public
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: opinion of me changed.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean. But I have been this.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: I am the same person. I've been the same person
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: like to start off. That was always genuine. But at
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: first when I started, you matter, my my own personal growth,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: like as on social media, we weren't doing like me
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: and love video yet.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the eyes that are on my Twitter completely different,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: So it used to be like dm me and I'll
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: send you like a little colde and probably thirty people
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: a dm me, you know what I mean.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: It couldn't be d It never was like dm me improved.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: You have scars, just like if you've been through this,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: just dm me and I'll give you a call, you
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: To go from like two hundred thousand followers on Twitter
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: when you're first doing this to one point seven million, Yeah,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: and trying to still be like dm me for a
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: cold to kind not even a gatekeeper, but just to
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: be able to like actually get it to the right people,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: so that people that aren't just scrolling past that wanna
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: hoodie for whatever reason, take advantage DEVI order ten hoodies
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: for their friends and families. Yeah, so that's why I
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: went from free hoodie to like forty fifty percent off,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: because that's basically just me doing it for cost value,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: like cost of production. And I did it every drop,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: but I received positive reassurance, you know what I mean,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: like this is a great idea, like tweets going viral,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: respindal like this is so Jamie.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I love his brand, you know what I mean.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: And at that time, like in social media in general,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: when you if if you don't check like yourself and
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: like start to have your own idea about things, then
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: you're going to just get kind of like caught in
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: the loop of popular opinion versus popular opinion. Yes, so
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like, this is a good idea, let's keep doing it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: But I'm twenty I'm twenty one, you know what I mean.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: So I'm not like, oh, I probably could like donate
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: a little bit more, or I probably could do this
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: or go about it like this, because I definitely like
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: even me not doing it now, it's not like I
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: don't do it anymore. And I'm like, I'm not helping
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: anyone because I'm not doing it the way I want
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: it to. I'm like, oh yeah, I definitely could do
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: something else, you know what I mean. I just actually
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: is more active then here and take this hoodie, you
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. But I'm twenty I'm twenty one,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: and like the hoodies helped me even right now, you
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: like it's hot, right, I always had I've always like covered,
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: you know what i mean, just because I'm not like
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I've never been comfortable like showing mo like skin, like
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: because I used to cut myself and like burn my
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: face and stuff like that. So it's I've never been
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: comfortable showing like like not having a hoodie on. So
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: it always just helped me as like a comfort item.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, So going backwards, it was like
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: in June or July or something that I had like
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: an ID article and I'm working with what's that I'm
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: working with All Death for like a show, like I'm
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: hosting a show or something like that. All Death for
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: a show. I just did an I D article.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Everything is on. I got a new manager, a new agent,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I got a model agent.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: So I did an article with I d I don't
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: like vet it dropped my quote tweeted he like I
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: pitched the same idea ide they didn't respond. They took
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: my ship and ran with it, and YadA YadA, and
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: everybody like, you're not gonna.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Speak up for him, speak up for another black creator.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even know what the going because
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: the same thing is it's like I know my agent
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: at the time pitched that herself, but it's not so
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: like it's it's may it's mental health money.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Who else like pitching me for mental health money is
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: not that Like.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: It's like Keith Lee Man, you should do a food show,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and being like that was my idea, Like it right,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I don't want ever though about that. Maybe he should
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: review it and maybe do one through.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Ten exactly like, but people be like, nah, you stole
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: from me. So that's what happened, And he had like
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: DM me and so I'm like, yeah, like, what's what's
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: going on. I don't really know what's going on. I
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: can't like if I speak for you and if I
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: show support for you, I'm like going against them and
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: my agent and my manager. I don't I shouldn't mean
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: in the middle of this. That's what I'm trying get through.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I'm trying get through is I did nothing here. I
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: just showed up for work. I'm sorry. I don't know
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: what to do, you know what I mean. But I'm like,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I know how our end looked, D would be and
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: my team, so I know this was like, hey, like,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: would you be interested in doing like an article with
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: boom boom boom and we'll see who picks it up?
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: And I d ended up picking it up, you know
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: But I got flagged for that because it was like
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: you in support he posted DMS YadA YadA, and like
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: I'm on set the first day of said calling him
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: like yo, what's up? He like, yeah, like I told you,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: like you got twenty four hours responding on the post DM,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you want for me out of
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: this situation?
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Like what the fuck do you want me to do?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean. So then it went
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: from that to I was uh.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Uh it was it became pride. So then a big
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: idea to me was just like I don't I don't.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I don't like when I go into Target and I
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: see any form of like pandering, right, I hate it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: It like makes me mad.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: I forgot what I just saw in Walmart the other day,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: but it was it was something stupid with like the
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Pride flag on it, And I'm like, this is just like,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, we're going to throw a Pride flag on it,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: thrown eight five percent and just keep ranking it in.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, I'll do because we've done
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: like a shirt before, like where we donated one hundred
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: percent of proceeds, but like it just didn't it didn't
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: sell well. So I'm like, I don't even think that
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: like selling Pride flags would sell well. I didn't know
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: how to do something like I'll just sell them at
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: production value, which was like fifteen dollurs just so you
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: guys have it, Like because you've got a matter of
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: hood you kind of have a way to represent what
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: you've been throughing what like community you're a part of. Yeah,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: but we do a Pride like if we do a hoodie,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: it's just a hoodie. But like I've seen a lot
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: of people with like the taper street walls, don'ts do
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: a Pride flag and you guys can just have them.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: It's fifteen hours. I'm not making any money off this.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: I don't want to make any money off this community.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: I just want to show my allegiance as well as
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: like give you guys something to represent yourself. And again
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: another thing of like good intention. It probably could have
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: been better like execution, but I'm twenty one and I
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: just want to help everybody.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I mean?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Like that that part is lost on everyone at that
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: time too, because it's like I've been seeing you for
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: like eight years, you're probably like thirty.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: And that's what I want people like put into perspective.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine you the viewer because me, you can't
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: imagine even its life. But can you imagine you doing
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: what you thought was right at twenty one and one
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: point seven million fully realized adults judging you?
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: And like, god, what did I know.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: At twenty one? Like what I thought was right? Luckily,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: by the grace of God, I didn't have social media,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: so I could make my mistakes in the dark. But
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: you had millions of people judging your You are still
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: young now, twenty five. I think your brain doesn't stop
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: forming into you like twenty five. Yeah, that's when twenty five,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: like most of us are not prepared to do that.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And you had a lot, and when at one point
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: sevent million followers, that's not people who don't follow you
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and who are just piling on.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right, exactly, So, like.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: It's really unfair to a person who don't like you
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: can do the I remember, Uh, this just happened. Like
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: what has happened to you is you don't realize how
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: much your audience is scaling. Like you can't fathom what
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: one point seven million people look like if they were
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: all together at one point. Yeah right, you can't even
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: where could you even fit that many people where you
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: could see them at all?
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Nowhere?
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: So in your mind, it's just these videos are going crazy,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Like millions of views means millions of people are either
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: pressing play or watching it over and over. But your
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: mind can't wrap that around. So imagine that many people
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: being pissed off at you.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's like it's I don't know, I.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Don't use Twitter for that reason, you know what I mean,
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Like I'll get on and stuff like that, but like
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: it was very hurtful, you know what I mean, because
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: I just know my intentions. Yeah, I know these people
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: don't know me, but I'm twenty one and I just
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: want to be liked. Like I'm the kid that just
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: want to be liked, you know what I mean.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: So like you were speaking my language. You don't like me,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: but I'm trying so hard to be liked and be
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: your friend.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: And the more you tried, the worst, the more they
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: hate you.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Like I think you're trying to be like but no, no, no, no,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: but I want to do right.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: And it's like the thing is too, Like there's a
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: certain fear that comes with that because it's like, oh,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: like I didn't even think I my intention was wrong.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I think my execution was wrong. Yeah, and I'm mature
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: enough as a young age to know that. But I'm
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: like okay, Like I keep explaining the same thing over like,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: cause the problem people were having with the Pride Flag
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: thing was you're profiting off of and I'm like, oh,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: we're not. Probably in the first post it says we're
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: not profiting. This is cost of production. Even shipping is
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: already put into cost production, so it's really just fifteen
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: hours if anything, were losing money on shipping, but that's
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: about it. But I'm like, we're not doing this boom boom.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: And then so I have the original like the journalists
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: like news coming through having on the same time, I'm
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: gonna hate for that. I'm hate for this, So I
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: close my dms. But because they used to be open
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: to the public just because people would reach out to
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: me and like the device and stuff like that, so
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I still wanted to be like accessible, and so I
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: closed them. And so I want to say, the next
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: day I was on set, we had shot. I was
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: like interviewing people, so we shot to do that. I
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: was like trying like with training kids and like stuff
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: like that, and I'm leaving. I had been with him
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: all day and like a nine degree weather day, I'm
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: watching him like we're trying to do workouts.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: On a football field nine weather in California.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I'm an uber, you know.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I checked Instagram and I check Twitter and it's a
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: tweet and it's like, yeah, my friend DM Demetrius about
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: what he was doing with the money, and this was
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: a response.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: So it's the it's the it's the DM. And it
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: says like, you know, maybe you could donate to here.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: And then I had closed my dms though, and that's
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: part of the DM, and it's but I didn't say
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I never opened the DM. It just it says you
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: no longer have access to DM this person, but it's
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: because I closed my DM to.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: The public if you blocked him.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they thought I blocked him, and I'm like,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't block the person. Why are you making this
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: sh up? You can't block someone from d m U
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: unless you block them, man, So then that becomes a thing.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: And then I think I told someone to shut the
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: fuck up.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: You did do that.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I told someone to shut the fuck up.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: They were trans And then it became like my followers
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: at the time are like, really my followers, so they're
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: just attacking this person. I'm not thinking, no, I'm just
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: upset I shut the fuck up, like y'are being stupid,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: and so again like I just didn't need to do that,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: as well as not realizing like my influence, so like
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: where this is not a one on one conversation.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: If you say something like kay, shut the.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Fuck up, yes you get hurtier.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: And that's just like us though.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: But if I said shut the fuck up and what happened,
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: probably wouldn't say that. So like five minutes later, I
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: had deleted it all in the tweets, and I'm just like,
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: we need to recognize that like there's a person behind
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: these accounts and like not just y'all like me too,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: And then I deleted the tweet. I left that tweet
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, like I'm someone from detroited,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Like I don't do these shenanigans like this internet back
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: and forth we're doing it. It doesn't like I think
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: my brother was in jail at that time, you know
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: what I mean. So I'm like, I don't give a
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: fuck about of you're talking about. I'm trying to help
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: and go about my day. But that got taken as
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: like did you just fucking threaten the trans person? And
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what are we talking about? So then I
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: just I broke down because I was dealing with the
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: stress from like because the producers on the show like,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: you know, your energy is not there, like YadA YadA,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: And that's because I'm dealing with this, yeah, and you
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, I'm like, I might lose this
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: fucking like big job. I'm getting attacked on Instagram and Twitter,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, my brothers and jail, like
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: you know, it was a lot on me. So I
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: like broke down, like Angelo like came into my room
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: and I was like curled in the ball. The next
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: day was the first day I went to therapy, like
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: as an adult really and yeah, so I'm dealing with
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: all that I just left. I was off Twitter for
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: like a month or two, you know what I mean.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: I come back and the like, yeah, you you dost
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: docs docs. They like you docked this person. I'm like,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: what are you talking about? And I didn't know what
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: docs was, But basically.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I think that means like you like leaked their personal information.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: But I didn't know none of this happened, Like their
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: count got planned all of a sudd I didn't know
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: none of this happened. And so now that's like on
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: my shoulders from probably like me responding for four minutes
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: my tweeter, you know what I mean. So that became
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: like a whole thing, and then everything else that has
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: just been a continuation that. And people hate that I
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: have chains, they have trains like jor what is that road? Yeah,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be like, I don't know. I think
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: it's because like I do do mental health and in
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: their mind, the only way I ever have made money
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: is from you matter to And like I don't think
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: they I think they forget about like how big of
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: influences me and a little word at the point.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: You know what, I thought? Mine was bad?
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Mine is horrible.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I posted me on id in I remember that. I
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, y'all, just you just gonna be mad
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: no matter what he does.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Just happy because I, like, I fasted the whole way through. Yeah,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: no social media. I went further with my fast and
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: like I actually necessarily needed to. I wasn't on the media.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: I was following the whole rules of the fast from
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: like breaking f tar at the right time and.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: All that, you know what I mean.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: I just felt so connected to myself to God. You
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: feel me like appreciative for everything I have, like in
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: the sense of like food, water, like my family and
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: so me just sharing that picture was just like.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't have did it. It was too personal.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: So when I got backlashed for it, it was even
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: the backlash.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: What was you know, whenever someone like a career does something,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: they turned, they turned, they converted to Islam. But like,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: if you look at my history, I've been I've been
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: supporting the Muslim community in my entire like social media career.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Because I grew up in Dearmore I didn't know everyone
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: had a big.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: One has the largest Muslim community.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: And I mean really in America. I honestly thought it
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: was when you're saying Ramadan, I was like that, I
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: didn't realize Detroit was like, but if you don't go
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: to a place, you you don't know Philly had one
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: because Philly has a you know, a lot of black
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: people in the jobs and stuff, a lot of beers,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of coofies. So I was like, is Philly
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: the number one? It was like, I remember that's when
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I first heard, like, actually, Detroit has a big one too,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: New York. You know what I'm saying. But do you
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: did you ever get like I feel like, all right,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just done with this, all of this, Like what
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: made you not stop? Though? Uh?
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: People care about me, you know what I mean?
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: And like it's definitely if you look at my numbers,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: it's different than it was maybe four years ago, but
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: it's still somebody that go on my page on YouTube
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: every Monday expected me to like chease him a recipe
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: and so like it's I enjoy doing it, and if
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: it has to be to a smaller audience, I might
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: welcome that even more because now it's between me and them,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And like all my biggest
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: thing is community, Like I think that's the best thing
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: we could achieve as humans. Yeah, and so like when
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: I'm on Twitch and I really get to talk to
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: the same person, like I know their name, we actually
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: have a conversation. It's like how you doing today, Like,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, I have my drivers. I can remember that
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: stuff because it's a smaller amount of people then were
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: back to the grassroots.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: When I tell you my Patreon has like it is
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: a saving grace because I like me and you. Right,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: if I offend you by mistake, we have enough report
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: he'd be like, that's cap He probably didn't mean to
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: like that. The internet does not give you that grace, right,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: And sometimes they are hoping you mess up or waiting
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: to pounds. Right, So having an audience that gives you
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that grace, Like just this past week, this Saturday, I've
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: been on tour for like a year. My brother just
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: passed away. Last year, I went on tour for a
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: whole year, right, And that's probably part of how I
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: cope with, Like work, this is what we did together
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: with like kind of honoring him, but just traveling and
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: performing is very taxing. Finished the whole year of tour,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: and that week I had like a concert that I
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: went to, just a whole bunch of life stuff, shooting
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: every day, shot a commercial on all that stuff I do,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: and it was time to shoot the Bonus episode on
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: that Saturday. So I'm like, I'm coming home from that
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: set and if we get off like eleven o'clock or
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: on their way home, it's like eleven thirty, right, And
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: then some food I order on Postmates was nasty and
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: somebody said it was good, and that was that was it.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Like at that point, there's nothing worse than somebody being like,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: now this is gonna slap. And then you get home
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: and you're like, and now don't slap. And all the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: restaurants are closed now, and I've been waiting for this.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I can deal with a lot, but you're telling me
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: it's Fox staring it eate. Now I'm about to not
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: im about to have a bad night. And it was
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: so she had all go here, go here, far from
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: my house, but it was even the Postmate range where
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: meat I was kissed, and I'm like, I gotta get
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: up and be there. I gotta get up at seven
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: am and I haven't slept, like bad food I got
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: for me. I can deal with a lot, but no food.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I'm really tired. I don't really
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: have the energy to do this. I haven't been like
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I'm tired. So I tell the Patreon like I'm not
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: gonna I can't do it, and they're like, brought.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: We good get your rest. And as an influencer creator
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: for a long time, you don't get that. You don't
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: get that it's very transactional. So I've always said that
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, if all I ever have is
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: this Patreon audience, I'll be cool and I don't need
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: to be rich because to be rich but your life
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: is like bombardment of hate and anger. Like I'd rather
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: be cool, Like for me, just bros, I used to
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: work at a bank. If I can make the money
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I made at a bank doing this, I'll be happy.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I don't have to be rich because a lot of
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: stuff that comes with fame invisibility is terrible.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: It's terrifying.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: It's terrifying, and I don't want so I get what
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: you're saying, like I'm okay with smaller but people who care.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have smaller people who care than big people
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: who are just waiting for this misstep. Want to go
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: at me, don't want to understand me, don't care, don't
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: give me no grace, no benething to doubt. That's taxing, man.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: I think the most fucked up part about I'm allowed
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: to cuss on her, but.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: You ain't got to hide the babe. I just just
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: hold okay, Like I took the hoodie because like I have,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: but whenever I got a music like, yeah, it's meant
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: a lot to me what you said, he's comorable to
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: take the HOODIEO. We got the safe space here, we.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Got a bear on the ones and too, that's what
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I gotto.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you already cussed a lot, so to ask now
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: like an hour in so can I cuss because if
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I have it, we should go back.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that was like the hardest part
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: I've seen like people switch up on me that I
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: like know in person, you know what I mean, Like
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: my like my old roommate, like he another influencer, Yeah,
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: but like he thinks he's fucking hilarious and he tried
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: to say like some like corny ass punchline joke and
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: like he the end of the tweet is I'm happy
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: he cut and then it's like his prices in half
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: talking about like the discuy's really like you're saying you
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: have to cut myself and like that was like it
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: wasn't like we already weren't cool, like after me moving out,
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: but it was like damn, like we shared stories, like
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: you know how.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Deeply I go through things?
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how deeply you go through things like this isn't
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: I think that's when I realized, like I'm not a
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: human to a lot of these people. I'm an idea.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: I'm a topic to discuss and then move on from.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Like my life is not a real thing. How this
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: might affect me is not a real thing, you know
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like if I be honest, like some
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: of my closest friends I have to this day now
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: are those people that like either defended me publicly or
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: like we're texting me like every time something, every time
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: something happens on social media, like where people are like
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: I get back last like Little Yachty Touches texted me
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: really like bro, like the last time, like the Ramenah
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: should happened, Like I hate how much people be on you,
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: because I got so much love for you, and this
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: shit is stupid, you know what I mean, even when
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: it was happening before, Like Quinn Blackwell texted me, you
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like Angelo is the most reserve,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: like sweethearted, like don't really have any hate his hard person.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: But he got in there when all that she was
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: having the first time, like during Black Friday, and was like,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: y'all are fucking less than humans, Like the is wrong
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: with y'all? Yeah, and like in defense of me, you
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, because I can't show it on
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: social media. No one cared Like if if I show
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: that I was hurt during that time, like it's gonna
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: be worse.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: They got you, exactly, lady and jentlemen, we got them.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: So I just I just got off Twitter for like
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: two three months. But like the people in my life
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: saw how it was affecting me, you know what I mean,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not eating and like you know what I mean,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: I'm losing weight and like I'm just not myself, Like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: there's no smile in my eyes, you know what I mean.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: And so I think that's the worst part when it
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: comes to like social media like backlash.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: It's like I even hate it when I see it
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: and it's not me.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: How can y'all discuss this person life like y'all know them?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: Bro to such a deep like part where you have
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: in real life arguments like you was there with them
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: in that room and you you know them, you know
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: what I mean?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Like, and then for people who know me, it was.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Even worse, like even if you met me once, you
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. If you've met me once, then
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: you know my character. I ain't never turned my back
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: on somebody on a picture. I ain't never like I'm
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: never not available for anybody, regardless of who they are,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so it's like seeing
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: people who like came up to me in Detroit and
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: like tweeting by the ship like yeah, I knew he was.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, I'm gonna see you.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Like this. You're not a part of the crowd of
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: people that live in Minnesota or something that I might
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: never run into.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna run into you, bro, like and why are
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: we doing this?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Bro?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. But it's Detroit every
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: once in a while, like Nigga, I almost see you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: for real.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing though I seen him out and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: it was just like.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Of course, but it's like it don't gotta beat this
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: because I got so much love in my heart everybody.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: But it's like it's like everybody want to be on
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: the right side.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so somebody winning, I want to be with the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: winning team, and when they losing, I don't want to
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: stand by them, you know what I mean. And it's
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: like it's like every person is gonna make mistakes, but
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: you have to look at the contents of someone's heart.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: And I feel like I've been so vulnerable and like transparent.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: About what I give a fuck about and like why
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: I do these things because like I didn't see myself
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: making it to the age of twenty five, right, you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? So like I can like I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: would be lying to you if I say, like, oh,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: I don't value like material things, you know what I mean?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Like I wanted to Rowlex, you know what I mean.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Like I want my cardial bus.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: And let me tell you what Detroit wait to have
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: a cardigal. I want my bus.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: But it's like at the end of the day, I
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: know that like none of these things will forever belong
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: to me. So like I take what I need and
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: I give the rest of the world, you know what
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: I mean. So like, if if I just need a place,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: like to get from A to B, I'd rather and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: like gets a card to a mother that really needed.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Like I've been trying to do some of the pistons
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: where I like give away a car, but like we
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: I'm you go. I think at nineteen, I probably gave
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: away like two hundred thousand dollars before I spent two
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: hun thousand dollars on myself. I still haven't spent two
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: hundredousands myself, you know what I mean. Like I'm sending
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: I'm giving scholarships to kids, and I got like real
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: life family that's in my life that could probably use
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: that money, you know what I mean. So it's like
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: I know that these things don't belong to me. I
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: just take what I need and the rest is for
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: everyone else.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: That's an amazing philosophy that I do not share. I
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: love that for you. But as Denzel was saying, I'm
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: leaving here with something, I'm around the way I'm leaving
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: here with something. Now I give a lot as well.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: But I love that. And I noticed you Uber here too.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I was like this, I thought you had the bands
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: of the roles of the Phantom. That's got Let me
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: tell you right now, when you see y'a on the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: private plane, y'all can tell me about carbon footprint. You
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: can say, I feel you. I get it. I'm flying
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: on the G six. It's my dream. Burke is burning
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: up anyway, I can't say it. Captain Planet couldn't do it,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: and he had the Planet tears. So when you see
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: me on the Clairport, baby, you gonna be mad, cause
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going there. That's my goal. But I think part
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: of you, like the person you gotta be okay with
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: people being like I don't like that about you. I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: don't like okay, Yeah, but nigga, that's I don't know
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: you though. Like remember the Kardashians flew I say this
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: all the time during the pandemic and stuff. They were like, yeah,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: well we going to a beach on our seven thirty seven.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: People are like, that's great. You shouldn't do that, and
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: they're like, well, we are doing it, And quietly I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: was like, whoa, I wish like They're like, you can't
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: be bad as for COVID, like we all testing and stuff,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: but I used to really live in that. Like I
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: don't want people be mad. I don't, but at the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: end of the day, they don't know me and they
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: won't give you the grace anyway, So you might as
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: well live your life regardless. Then just be mad. At
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: least you'll be mad for who I really am. I'm not.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna be mad for me trying to be
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: who I think you want me to be, because that
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: goal post is ever moving and changing. Like, with the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: right intention, you can still piss off people. I remember
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Lizo got in trouble because she was complaining her postmates
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: older had got wrong or something, and she did what
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: most people do, and people like your platforming. She's like, Okay,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: you're right. Like you sometimes forget how big you've gotten too.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: People people think you should automatically know exactly what to
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: do in a position you've never been in, and it's
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: not like most people ever are in it, so it's
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: not like a road book or a guidebook, and you
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: want to so desperately to feel normal and be normal,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: but you ain't.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: It's a thing too that people don't realize how new.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Social media is yes, Like Instagram came out when I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: was in eighth grade, eighth for seventh grade. Yeah, I'm sorry,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Why this bothered me.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: So but for real, I remember like Instagram was only
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: for I phone, you know what I mean. So it's like, well,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: we got Facebook was there Facebook start? I remember YouTube
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: came out like maybe two thousand and seven on stage,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: like I remember like all that shit. It's like this
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: is still new. It's very They're still running new studies
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: for the effects of social media or how to there's
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: no like you know what I mean, like the how
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: tos of like how to be a father, how to
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: be a mother, like because people have been fucking fathers
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: and mothers this whole time and still messed that up exactly.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: So it's like expect me to know what because this
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: is the you opposed it. Like I forget I got
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: a bill your father because I get two thousand likes. Okay,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: the fuck that was bullshit? Fifty million likes?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I oh, you know what I mean.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: So it's like, bro, yeah, it definitely definitely. Uh, I'm
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: older now, you know what I mean.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: Like, like I said, I'm on social media with these
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: insecurities or with this trauma more so you know what
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: I mean. And it's not trauma that was given to me, No, no,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: I Can's just I have younger childs, childs, and you
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I'm used to like getting the hand me downs.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: I'm used to like dancing in the corner and trying
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: like look at me, look at me like I'm used
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: to like needing everybody to like me.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: So so that plays so terribly for social media.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: And the thing is, I hadn't received any hate in
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: my like six years being on social media until the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: seventy year.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, ain't no way he came. They came
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: so the first time.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, they hate me for real. Because it
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: feel good when it's a million people like you. It
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: feel horrible when it's a million people not like you.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: You don't even know how much you're speaking to my soul.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: That's where my Patreon hurt me the most. Why can't
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: nobody like you?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: You a good Christian man.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I could give you a myriad of reasons why they
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: don't like me. Part of it could be because, oh
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: my god, trust me, that is myriaaud of reasons. Some
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: nigga Remember she was frankly, she was joking. She was
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: gonna keep you this one time. She was like, I
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: just be sick of care. I love my wife, I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: love my kids. Like even that is like, people think
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: that's fake.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Niggas don't Niggas don't like niggas don't like happy home.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: They don't like straight Tyler Perry. Whoever said that, he
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: said straight, Tyler Perry, ain't funny to me, that nigga.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: That one got between the gloves. I keep my gloves up,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: but straight Tyler Perry is not that funny to me.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Their rings in my ears. One dude said it, so
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: many people thought that was funny. He said it.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: When you said it, I thought you just said like
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: somebody would say it. Tyler Perry.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Well, he not address.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Straight. Tyler Perry got me right. So I want to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: you know, gloves shit. Everybody should be funny. That should
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: be reserved for a select you. But everybody's fun But
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: it was really helpful. Actually, be like a nigga. All
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: these people don't love you. Some people want you to fail.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: That's okay for I let you go. I want to
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: talk about this cooking thing. I want to keep talking
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: to you. Just keep it going. Now, I follow you
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: just as like a fan of who Like I really
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: like who you are, so I watch your stories and
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: stuff and I remember watching I'd be like this nigga's wings,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: these are not regular wings. Like when this nigga cooks,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: you'd be like, I'm gonna get drunk and fry some
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: shrip and I'm looking at the shrimp like, hold on
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: this nigga, really, like what what is the cooking thing?
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Because you you're not cooking like regular people, like your
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: stuff looked like you you're taking the time to really
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: cook like it looks legit. Where did this come from?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: With it from your little seas days? Because now you've
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: turned it into a show, like you've made it hard.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Cooking is a very hard content. It's very hard content
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: to make it, yes, because you actually have to cook.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: You either got to pre cook or you got to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: cooking way, or you gotta cook and shoot.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: It is hard to plan out.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: It's a lot. My girl is as Danny Rose is
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: a influencer who's a chef as well, and like being
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: on set with her, I'm like, oh my god, this
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: is the worst. It's very like for a cooking it's ridiculous.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Cooking is a lot without cameras to cook on camera
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: and be good and looks.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: It's way too I need to cameras at this point
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: because I'm like, we keep having to go from it
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: in front of me to like yes, because I get
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: enough angles from TikTok to cut it down.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love cooking.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: You have to.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: So is it just fun or is it like a
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: true desire because the Cooking show, We're supposed to do it,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: but I still want to do it. We still do it. Yeah,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: I'll come to Detroit just Yeah. Now that I'm not
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: on tour, I can do a lot of.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Stuff that like it could just show you.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, where the is this? You told was?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Why? Look at It's just I am on tour.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: For all the I'm trying not to do that anymore
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: because I lose a lot of other opportunities. Come home.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I kissed my kids on the cheek.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: I go back out the hell.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Next year, I'm coming to Detroit just to shoot the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: cookie show. I'll come back home.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: What was the question?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: Where did nick love for cooking come from? And the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: desire to make it to a content?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I used to just spend a lot
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: of time with my parents in the kitchen when they're
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: cook So like my mom when she would make like
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: I usually eat probably wings every Saturday or so, like
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: she just fry wings and you know we eating wash
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: like basketball.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Someone got it.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: So I just be in there like like where our
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: kitchen was said up, it's like a brier that overlooks
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: the kitchen.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: So even if I'm not in there with her, me
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: and my brothers, it's always like interesting, the food is good.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: And because I'm the youngest, there's a point time where
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: everybody had to cook for me, start teaching me how
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: to cook.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: So it was like, all right, that's how you make
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: robin noodles.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: Once I got tied robin noodles, it was like, all right,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: this is how you fried potatoes. Said that I'm not
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: have for potatoes. And it's like this is how I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: use George for me, And now I make my breath
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: is now I'm making chicken breats on George Foreman and
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: my brother. Like I'm the youngest, so I'm just looking
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: up to everybody. So like I got into like art,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: I can draw portraits and stuff like that, because.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, all the talent in the world.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: My brother.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: I'm young.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: So my brother's in art class arts school, and he
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: came home one day like this portrait did because he
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: that was the assignment in class.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna do that ship too,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: and I just start drawing so to.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Draw like, And then my other brother was in photography,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: so then I started learning photography. That's what made me
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: know how to use a camera to do to YouTube.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: And then my other brother he had a colorary art
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: class in high school, so he'd come home with all
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: new like different.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: So you're just you're a true little brother. Yeah, whatever
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: your older brothers do is the best thing in the world. Yeah.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: So I'm really just like if you if you ever
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: met all my brothers at once, you could see the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: different parts of like my personality that like were influenced
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: by them. I still have, like obviously my own personality,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: but like it was a moment where I didn't I
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: didn't even know these things were Like I just wanted
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: to do what my big brothers were doing, you know
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: what I mean. So he had colorary class, and then
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: when I got to more high because I went to
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: a school called Rogue ninth grade year and I got
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: more high and wanted the electives. The first elected I
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: picked was woods shot class and culinary class, so that
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: I got a culinary class. You started food science, and
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: I said, this is pretty fucking interesting.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Serious shout up, missus. Anderson was like, we're going here.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. You explained it like that.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: That makes a lot of fun sense because all these
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: things make up final product, and they all have a
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: specific bro I'm just thinking we just throwing it in there.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: So then I just always used to cook, So I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: think my first project for cooking class was I made
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: a crape. So I talked myself and make a crape.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: And then from there I just saw aways love it.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: I just cooked for my friends. I get drunk. We
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: have a game nights, and I be like, I got
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: some wings. I'll get drunk while making the wings. But
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: how you were saying, it looks like I put like
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of parp into it. Just like food deserves that.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: If you're giving something to someone for them to digest,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: it deserves the love and attention. So regardless of the
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: state of mind, man, I'm going to be locked in
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: on this food until.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: It's done.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: Left the alcoholic.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's how it be.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: I'll be smoking ribs that should take like six seven hours,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: and i'd just be outside drunk.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I'm real like drunk the whole time.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: But but you go clear up enough to.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: A flipping off and we need somebody give me some
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: more wood chips. As soon as them ribs come come
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: off and I cut them up and they saw stuff.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: Don't talk to me because I'm liable to say something
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: that you didn't. You didn't even realize I was drunk.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: You didn't even realize I've been blacked out drunk this
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: whole time. But it's like it's like a It's like
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: when people take all except it's cook God, I just
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  Speaker 3: focused on one food thing and I just I like it.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to say and let me know if
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  Speaker 1: I'm closer off. I follow you on TikTok and I
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  Speaker 1: love the content you're making now is just very haphaszard.
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  Speaker 1: Pick the camera up and say cut it off. Like
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  Speaker 1: you seem to be in a cool place where you're
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  Speaker 1: with your content, with your life, Like do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like you're settling into Like I got a better handle
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  Speaker 1: on this now because you seem cool. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and you're still funny even in this version of yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I like this version too, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's like an album and I just make a different album, Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I like this one too, Like I like this this
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  Speaker 1: place you're in now, it seems like you you settled
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  Speaker 1: into yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Some Yeah, I think it's just come with growing up though,
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  Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, I didn't think that before.
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  Speaker 3: Like when I obviously I think I know every thing,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I have been doing social
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  Speaker 3: media so long that I also thought I knew everything
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  Speaker 3: about the identity I wanted for myself on social media,
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  Speaker 3: and so it was like I never was being fake,
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  Speaker 3: Like I never was not being myself.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think.
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  Speaker 3: Even we're doing skits, it was like, oh, the Bible
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  Speaker 3: shit works, Let's keep doing the Bible.
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  Speaker 2: Ship, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool.
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  Speaker 3: So like now it's like I think I think I
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: took a break from social media. I think people rolle
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  Speaker 3: me off, and I think now it's like I'm still
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: in his corn, still funny as fuck, still as telling
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: us I know I am, but everybody ain't just wave
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  Speaker 3: for me. So I'm just like over here, y'all leave
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  Speaker 3: me over here. I got the people that can about me.
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  Speaker 3: Were gonna have a great time. So that's what's happening though.
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  Speaker 3: Like I just cook in my house with the homies,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: like everybody come on the show. Like somebody wanted somebody
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  Speaker 3: I know in the with my tweets where I had
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: just did a cookie show and he was like, I
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: love how the cookie show. Whatever you had, guess is
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: just your guests bothering you while you cook. Like that's
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: because I've only had like two guests come on the show,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: and like the reason for the guest using is like
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  Speaker 3: show me a recipe you love, and will you make
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  Speaker 3: it for me? And I'll show your recipe I love,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: and I'll make it for you, and we trade our
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: recipes and now you have a recipe of mine that
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  Speaker 3: can cook.
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  Speaker 1: If you brought me I don't know what. I'll show
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  Speaker 1: you what I like to order a postman.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're a good Christian man.
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  Speaker 3: No, not even that.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't want to. There's so much food that
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  Speaker 1: people will bring to you. Yeah, I get that it's
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  Speaker 1: hot in the kitchen. All I cook right now is
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  Speaker 1: put on a man. No, I've been eating roasted chicken
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  Speaker 1: and I'm able to cook. I don't find the joy.
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  Speaker 1: All you said I'm gonna make something digested. I could.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you money.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Access service is one of my that makes more sense.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: But cook is not a love or joy for me.
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  Speaker 1: Eating is.
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  Speaker 3: The best feeling is when you you finished, get the
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: house being loud as fucking certain places, everybody just yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'd be staying there with my bottle.
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  Speaker 1: One go there, youth.
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  Speaker 2: It's all good. But you gave me everything I need.
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  Speaker 1: But I know I did.
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  Speaker 3: My Mom's like, I know that ship good and the
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  Speaker 3: motherfucker because I had tried it before I gave it
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  Speaker 3: to you, and I know you have there fucked up.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: And after they done, they thought they placed the way,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: they just sit.
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  Speaker 1: Down and just who. That's not a specific moment, but
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: I know it is my favorite part. People who cook
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: love that watch it. Like people who love to cook,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: they don't even eat to satisfy themselves. They just eat
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  Speaker 1: to taste to make sure it's good, and they want
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: you to enjoy. They could be like I did it again.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: I had just something new with the way his last Sunday,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: and the home came over. A few of them came over,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: but he he said, I think he's done. I'm cleaned up.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: He's like, how long you marinate that? I said, I said, huh.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: He said, how are you marinated that? I was like,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: probably like an hour.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: I was like, I was the gym and I came
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: back forgot the marinated. He said, I can't gonna get
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: fucked up over at one hour marinate dog. I'm like, yeah,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: it's just some soy sauce and apple juice and all.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good feeling.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Bro Oh, listen, man, this was great, meach. This was
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  Speaker 1: the quickest hour seventeen ever. It's hours seventeen and that's
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  Speaker 1: just from when a mere press record. I don't count
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  Speaker 1: what we was chopping it up before. Let the people
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: who are new to you. A lot of people in
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: the patren already know who you are, but people who
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: are new to you, let them know where to find you.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Where we going, Jesus, ain't nobody doing no work at work.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Y'all is out here hanging out. This is what I
• 1:19:48
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• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm at work, but I'm not working.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: I'm at work, but I'm not working.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: That's what we're here for. See what you want me
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  Speaker 1: to do? Tell them where to find you, to find
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: what you got popping? What's coming next? If they want
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: to support you, how they do it?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Uh, damn, I'm bad at this.
• 1:20:06
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• 1:20:22
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• 1:20:29
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• 1:20:31
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  Speaker 3: slash Demetri's arm and your episode dropped Monday.
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  Speaker 2: There we go episodes every Monday. We call them meach.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Monday is where I'm from. I'm on TikTok.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: If you want to see that, Hey, I'll be on
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: there talking some bullshit. I don't know how the first
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: thing come to my mind. Put that camera down.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: I talked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Ladies and gentlemen, please show some
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: show some support to the young brother. He's doing his thing.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: He's been through a lot and he's found himself. Very
• 1:21:13
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  Speaker 1: see you.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, don't cut me. I like to give a shout
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: out to all my people back home.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: My mom loves you, keV. Yeah, my mom fucking loves you.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: When you came to the trail, I didn't get choked
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: up just now, it was just mucus. My mom really
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: focused your content. Me and I wanted to give a
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  Speaker 3: shout to Jennifer Harmon.
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  Speaker 1: Free tickets for her when I pull up on the
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  Speaker 1: track next time, I beat it. You you good Christian,
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  Speaker 1: good Christian.
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  Speaker 2: You got to get some hot Cheetos and dog. I'm
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: looking through I see regular.
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  Speaker 3: Cheetos, fucking cheddar cheddar ruffles, and one bag of spicy
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  Speaker 3: to read.
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  Speaker 1: We are old man, we don't eat hot chinos. People
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  Speaker 1: got heartburned at this age. It's just my wife. I
• 1:22:07
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• 1:22:11
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• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: back to work, but this video is over, so we
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  Speaker 1: love You'll see you next time. Peace,