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Chuck & Buck 6-12 Hour 4: One Series with Bryan Walters, we want our Piggyback and Booze News! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Of course, throughout the month of June our Seahawks One Series,
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Speaker 1: where we on a daily basis bring on one Seahawks
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Speaker 1: insider slash analyst to break down one key Seahawk player
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Speaker 1: for one entire interview, and that time is now on
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Speaker 1: this day to do that very exercise. Joining us for
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Speaker 1: the first time ever on our show. For the first
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Speaker 1: time ever on the Seahawks One Series, obviously, is a
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Speaker 1: kid born in Boffel, played his high school football in Kirkland, Washington,
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Speaker 1: became an Ivy League educated person, and then he ends
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Speaker 1: up with the Seahawks where he wins a Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: Ring.
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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good journey, right there, Brian Walters. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you are through and through Seattle, Pacific northwest here and
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Speaker 1: look at all of your accomplishments, and now you're part
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Speaker 1: of the media. Why did you take a wrong turn?
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Speaker 3: I didn't see it going that way. I'm not gonna
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Speaker 3: lie to you.
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Speaker 2: I thought you're going somewhere else.
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Speaker 3: And he said, where's the wrong turn? You're right, that's
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Speaker 3: a good question, and it's a turn I didn't see
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Speaker 3: coming either, But you know, I just had to had
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Speaker 3: to join, as the Seawks would say, join the dark Side,
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Speaker 3: and so far it's been good. I do I've really
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Speaker 3: enjoyed it. But but thanks for having me on today.
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Speaker 3: This will be this will be fun. I like the
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Speaker 3: I like what you guys are doing, just breaking down
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Speaker 3: individual players. I think it's pretty pretty, pretty cool and unique.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, great, well, thank you. I appreciate that, and I'm
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Speaker 1: excited and getting into it. But I do want to
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Speaker 1: ask you. You do have that Super Bowl ring? And
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Speaker 1: that's part of the daily news today that the Seahawks
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Speaker 1: got their Super Bowl rings?
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: I mean they get just bigger and gaudier and more
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Speaker 1: expensive every year. You did not win your super Bowl
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Speaker 1: ring all that long ago. You are a young man,
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Speaker 1: for goodness sake. Can you believe how much bigger and
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Speaker 1: more expensive they are now compared to yours?
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy. When we got ours, we were, like,
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Speaker 3: I think at the time, it was the most expensive
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Speaker 3: ring that's ever was ever made, and we were looking
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Speaker 3: at that thing like, oh my goodness, how can this
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Speaker 3: get any bigger. I'm not going to say bad because
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Speaker 3: I actually like the size of our because I feel
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Speaker 3: like I can wear it, you know, to normal events
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Speaker 3: and stuff, and it's not just getting in the way
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Speaker 3: I'm not running into door jams walking through doors with
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Speaker 3: it on, and I like that about it. But man,
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Speaker 3: it's it's absurd where they where they've gone to, and
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Speaker 3: I feel like it's almost like a Transformer. You got
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Speaker 3: buttons and things that come off of it and all that.
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Speaker 3: And not just the Seahawks new ring, but all the rings.
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Speaker 3: I think the Rams kind of started that trend. They
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Speaker 3: had like a stadium when they open up the ring,
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Speaker 3: stadiums inside of it, so you can do all kinds
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Speaker 3: of things. But it's pretty cool, pretty fun seeing kind
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Speaker 3: of where they can go, how creative they can get.
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Speaker 3: And I think the Seahawks ring it looks really really clean.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna end up being like a Transformer. They'll be
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Speaker 1: able to wear it and then drive it home eventually.
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Speaker 1: I think that's where it's going. Brian Walters is with
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Speaker 1: us for our Seahawks one series and we always allow
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Speaker 1: our analyst to pick the player he wants to break down.
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Speaker 1: So who are we going to break down today with
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Speaker 1: Brian Walters?
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Speaker 3: Well, this was an easy one for me just going
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Speaker 3: with Well, I played wide receiver, I was a punt returner.
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Speaker 3: I was a kick returner. So when when they say, hey,
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Speaker 3: you know, let's pick a player, I'm gonna go right
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Speaker 3: to the man himself or Shishi Heat, a guy that
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Speaker 3: came in mid season and just and really was a
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Speaker 3: huge spark for this for the Seattle team. So I
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Speaker 3: want to I'll break him down a little bit kind
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Speaker 3: of what he what I saw from him last year,
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Speaker 3: and just what to expect this year, because I just
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Speaker 3: I love watching him play. I love what he brings
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Speaker 3: to this team, and I think one thing about him
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Speaker 3: is is he can bring it. What I appreciate about
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Speaker 3: him is he's not just doing it in one one
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Speaker 3: aspect of the game. You know, He's not just doing
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Speaker 3: it as a wide receiver. He's doing it multiple ways.
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Speaker 3: He's doing it in special teams. He's changing the game
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Speaker 3: in many ways. And also he's not just catching passes.
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Speaker 3: He's getting runs, he's getting reverses, he's out of the
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Speaker 3: backfield getting handoffs at some point, and so there's a
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Speaker 3: lot to his game that I love. So it'll be
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Speaker 3: an easy breakdown.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did not stack the statistics, especially from an
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Speaker 1: offensive standpoint a year ago, but he authored some of
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Speaker 1: the biggest, most game changing, season changing plays in his
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Speaker 1: short time in the Seahawks uniform a year ago. I'll
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Speaker 1: just ask you to get us going. Would the Seahawks
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Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowl without Rashid Shaheed last year?
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you asked that because I've made this
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Speaker 3: point kind of all off season and even going into
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and I say, it's hard to say
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Speaker 3: that one person gets you to where you're at on
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Speaker 3: any team. You know, it's hard to say one team
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Speaker 3: or one person really got him to the super Bowl,
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Speaker 3: one on the Super Bowl, whatever it is. But when
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Speaker 3: you look at the timing of Rashid Shied and the
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Speaker 3: plays he made when you absolutely needed it, you, I mean,
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Speaker 3: there's there's nobody that stands out more than Rashid because
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Speaker 3: I mean without that punt return against the Rams, you know,
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Speaker 3: did the Seahawks beat the Rams? Do they win the
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Speaker 3: NFC West? Do they do they get home field advantage
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Speaker 3: and make to the playoffs? I don't know. And you
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Speaker 3: can go to so many any different plays throughout the season,
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Speaker 3: and you know one people forget about. I mean, you're
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Speaker 3: six to six against the Atlanta Falcons at halftime, you know,
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Speaker 3: you go down. You're in Atlanta and you're having a
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Speaker 3: flug faft down there. Kind of a little snoozer, honestly.
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Speaker 3: And where's that spark come from? Well, he returns the
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Speaker 3: opening kickoff for a touchdown and then it was over
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Speaker 3: after that. You know, it's like the little sparks that
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Speaker 3: he presented again, forty nine ers game playoffs, the divisional
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Speaker 3: round just start. Not really a clutch I wouldn't say
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Speaker 3: it's a clutch play because it's the very first play
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Speaker 3: of the game, but it's kind of like that spark,
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Speaker 3: like okay, like here we are and you didn't even
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Speaker 3: look back after Rashishi he'd returned that for a touchdown.
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Speaker 3: So there's just so many little plays. I shouldn't say
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Speaker 3: little plays, I should say big plays. But that stand
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Speaker 3: out to me about Rashid and how he got this
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Speaker 3: team to wear the rat. But again, you already mentioned it.
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Speaker 3: I mentioned it. The biggest one was against the Rams
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Speaker 3: in the regular season. The second game at home, You're down,
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Speaker 3: what thirty to twelve something something like that. If I
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Speaker 3: recall thirty to twelve or thirty to fourteen fourteen, Yeah, yep,
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Speaker 3: and I think it was thirty to fourteen. You're right,
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Speaker 3: because the end up being thirty to twenty two after
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Speaker 3: this because they made the two point conversion, but and
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Speaker 3: you needed it. And I was in the press box.
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Speaker 3: I was in the press box looking down this game like,
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Speaker 3: oh man, I think the Seahawks lost this. And then
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Speaker 3: I turned to another my colleague, Michael Bumpus, you know,
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Speaker 3: another analyst, and I said, hey, the only way the
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Speaker 3: Seahawks get back into this game is if Sean McVay
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Speaker 3: actually kicks it to Rasieja Heat and he scored a
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Speaker 3: touchdown right here, like that's it. And right before that punt,
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Speaker 3: I said that to him, that that's it. This is
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Speaker 3: the only way the Seahawks can win that game is
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Speaker 3: if Sean McVay chooses to punt the ball to receiet
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Speaker 3: Your Heat. And fair enough, there it was. They punted
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Speaker 3: to him, they score, no time came off the clock,
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Speaker 3: and then you know, the rest is history. In that game,
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Speaker 3: they made a big run and didn't look back after that.
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Speaker 3: So look, did Rasishi Heat win on the Super Bowl? Well,
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Speaker 3: you can make an argument for it, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Former see Brian Walters, our guest here on our Seahawks
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Speaker 1: one Series one analyst breaking down one key Seahawk player
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Speaker 1: for one entire interview, and Brian has chosen Rashid Shaheed
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Speaker 1: to break down with us here today. And so there
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Speaker 1: was a question, I mean, would he price himself out
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Speaker 1: of Seattle this offseason? I mean, fifteen catches one hundred
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Speaker 1: and eighty eight yards over nine games, even with special teams.
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Speaker 1: You do wonder whether or not that warrants a seventeen
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Speaker 1: million dollars per year contract. Brian, Why is he going
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Speaker 1: to end up being worth seventeen million dollars a year
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Speaker 1: for this football team?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think you have to kind of look at
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Speaker 3: the circumstances he was in. I think the reason one, yes,
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Speaker 3: his production was down when he came to Seattle. One,
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Speaker 3: you know, just kind of getting the swing of things.
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Speaker 3: But you also have guys a Cooper Cup and JSN
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Speaker 3: You're you're playing alongside. When you look at what he
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Speaker 3: did when he was with the Saints earlier in that season,
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Speaker 3: I mean it drastically changed when he came with Seat.
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Speaker 3: How many targets he's getting and just more of the
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Speaker 3: opportunities to get. I mean, you go to the Saints
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Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna look at it. I'm gonna read it.
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Speaker 3: He played what nine games with the Saints, and I
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Speaker 3: mean you have nine targets, five targets, six targets five five, six,
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Speaker 3: nine twelve not I mean, he would get in so
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Speaker 3: many targets. He was their go to guy because it
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Speaker 3: was him and Chris lave in the Saints. So it's
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Speaker 3: kind of like him JSN. But you had a Cooper Cup,
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Speaker 3: you had, you had you know, you had guys like
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Speaker 3: that that can make plays as well. And also the scheme,
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Speaker 3: you know, Kubiak scheme. What I appreciated about Pubiac last
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Speaker 3: year was he wanted to run the ball and he
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Speaker 3: committed to that. He committed to that a lot. And
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Speaker 3: so that's gonna take. That's gonna take those targets. But
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Speaker 3: again with Rashid, I don't think it's about the volume
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Speaker 3: at all, but it's about when he does get his opportunity,
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Speaker 3: he does get his chance to make an impact. Can
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Speaker 3: you get those explosive plays from him that that pretty
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Speaker 3: much that can turn games around, that can change games
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Speaker 3: for you. And I think that's where you're in his
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Speaker 3: seventeen million dollars, that's where you really see the game
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Speaker 3: changing effect that he has. And then and then now
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Speaker 3: you have an off season with him, You have a
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Speaker 3: whole off season, so everyone's learning this new playbook at
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Speaker 3: the same time. And what I'm most fascinated going to
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Speaker 3: this season is is he the number two guy or
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Speaker 3: super Cup the number two guy? Yeah, if Tory Horton
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Speaker 3: comes back, is he gonna be the number two guy?
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Speaker 3: Because remember what Tory Horton did before they got Rashi
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Speaker 3: chi heat Remember how he was on that role too.
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Speaker 3: So you have four wide receivers now that all can
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Speaker 3: make big time plays and have all proved it at
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Speaker 3: some point or another in the NFL, and I think
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Speaker 3: that's pretty remarkable. But Rashid, I just see him expanding
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Speaker 3: his role in this offense. There's a few things that
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Speaker 3: I can get into here in a bit that I
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Speaker 3: think he needs to improve on if he's gonna take
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Speaker 3: that next step with the Seattle offense. But I think
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Speaker 3: he's just a perfect compliment to JSN really to open
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Speaker 3: up the field.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's get into those What are those things that
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Speaker 1: you see that could make Rashid Shaheed that much more
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Speaker 1: impactful for the Seahawks this year.
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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be one catching in traffic
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Speaker 3: in the quick game. You know, sometimes these slants, these
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Speaker 3: little short passes. Yeah, you see the explosives. They want
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Speaker 3: to take shots down with Shrashiji Heat. But if he's
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Speaker 3: going to really maximize those explosive plays like that, like that,
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Speaker 3: the deep shots, he's got to show that he can
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Speaker 3: go down and go in the middle, catch a little slant,
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Speaker 3: catch a little five yard in route and make it
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Speaker 3: and make it smooth. You know, we see JFN do
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Speaker 3: that all the time. Cooper cuts the master at just
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Speaker 3: kind of being in the middle field catching it in traffic,
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Speaker 3: and I don't think we see that from Mashishi Heat now.
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Speaker 3: And he got the opportunity with the Seahawks, not a lot,
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Speaker 3: but when he has, I haven't seen him come down
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Speaker 3: with those yet. So I want to see that really
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Speaker 3: really come to the front of his game, just kind
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Speaker 3: of that all around receiver win a slant route Sam
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Speaker 3: Donald right on right on the money boom, you know,
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Speaker 3: ten to fifteen yard game take from a slant route,
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Speaker 3: little short route like that. So that would be one
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Speaker 3: of the things I'll be really watching for him this year.
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Speaker 3: He is going to be that full time number two guy.
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Speaker 3: And then one more thing I think that stood out
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Speaker 3: to me, it's pretty nitpicky, honestly, but you know, I
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Speaker 3: for breaking down a player, you get the negatives. I think.
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Speaker 3: I think at some point when you're some of these
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Speaker 3: deep balls, now he's he's fantastic, right. You know, he
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Speaker 3: a lot of times has two three steps on guys,
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Speaker 3: but sometimes he doesn't have the two or three steps,
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Speaker 3: which is fine, right. Dvs are fast too, and they're
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Speaker 3: right with him. I think his strength to the ball
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Speaker 3: can be a little bit better. I think sometimes you
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Speaker 3: see him kind of throw his hands up early looking
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Speaker 3: for that pass interference before the balls even hit the ground,
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Speaker 3: and I'd like to see him just play through that,
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Speaker 3: play through it, go up, try to high point. It
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Speaker 3: doesn't matter if you get pass interfearit or not, but
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Speaker 3: you're trying to make a play like it's all about
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Speaker 3: the ball. And I think a few times last season
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Speaker 3: I saw him just kind of almost give up on
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Speaker 3: a deep ball because he's trying to sell the pass interference.
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Speaker 3: And I think that would be something I'd want to
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Speaker 3: see him just just just be strong up to the ball,
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Speaker 3: let the rest figure out the pass interference. Don't throw
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Speaker 3: your hands up wanting to call before the ball did
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Speaker 3: you hit the ground. So I'd say those two things
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Speaker 3: can really elevate him to the next level along with
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Speaker 3: all the other things that he brings. That is really
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Speaker 3: he's just so talented back there. And we didn't even
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Speaker 3: really got to the special teams part of it. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 3: it would be as a wide receiver to be that
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Speaker 3: number two guy, That's what I'd like to see.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do want to get the special teams
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Speaker 1: here in a moment with Brian Walters, our Seahawks one
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Speaker 1: Series one analyst Brian Walters breaking down one key player,
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Speaker 1: Rashid Shaheed for one entire interview. But before we get
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Speaker 1: special teams, how do you think they might use him
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Speaker 1: in the running game? Brian Florey didn't use a lot
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Speaker 1: of receiver endo rounds, but that is something San Francisco
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Speaker 1: was kind of known for when Deebo Samuel was there,
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Speaker 1: And obviously we're looking at two completely different body types
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Speaker 1: Shaheed versus Deebo Samuel. But how effective do you think
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Speaker 1: they might use him as a running back on in
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Speaker 1: that jet sweep and getting them around the edge.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're not going to see a lot
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Speaker 3: of change as far as how they used them last year.
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Speaker 3: Reverses would you see four almost four reverses maybe five
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Speaker 3: reverses Rashiji heat last season kind of trying to give
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Speaker 3: a spark and none bigger than I think it was
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Speaker 3: some of that reverse. It was it the rams, it
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Speaker 3: was the uh the I'm trying to think it was
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Speaker 3: is that same game we returned, the same game we
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Speaker 3: returned to kick in the second game regular season. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: they also had a point where the offense was a
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Speaker 3: little bit stale, kind of later in the game and
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Speaker 3: you're like, ah, and it was thirty to twenty two,
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Speaker 3: remember this now, and they kind of threw a reverse
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Speaker 3: to Rashid and he took it for about thirty yards
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Speaker 3: twenty five thirty yards, and it sparked everything from there.
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Speaker 3: It was like, Okay, this game's kind of going to
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Speaker 3: the Seahawks, and this is after his return. So it
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Speaker 3: was Rashid again with back to back with two big plays.
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Speaker 3: That really was the spark. So I don't I if
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Speaker 3: I'm an offensive coordinator and I'm going into this season
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Speaker 3: like like Brian Fleury is, and you're kind of getting
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Speaker 3: your your game plan going, and how am I going
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Speaker 3: to use Rashiki Heat? Well, the film doesn't lie on
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Speaker 3: what his strengths are, and so's it's reverses, it is
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Speaker 3: the fly sweeps. It is you saw him out of
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Speaker 3: the backfield and an eye formation. There was a full
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Speaker 3: back in front of him early early on when they
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Speaker 3: got him and they handed it off off the left
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Speaker 3: back or a little little outside zone the pitch to
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Speaker 3: him and he got ten yards. So he's so versatile
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Speaker 3: in that way that I don't see him changing it,
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Speaker 3: changing it up at all. Maybe a few more screams,
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe some wide receiver screens. I don't think
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Speaker 3: we saw a lot of that to him, But that's it.
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be anything crazy. And
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Speaker 3: you can't do that all the time. You know, you
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Speaker 3: can't just sit there and try to run reverse after
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Speaker 3: reverse to rashiki heat. But you know, when you need
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Speaker 3: to shock that defense and surprise that defense, boom, you
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Speaker 3: have a guy like Rashikihi who can do that and
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Speaker 3: get the corner.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, anything to get him in space, it feels like
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Speaker 1: will be the objective. And let's talk about that returnability.
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Speaker 1: Is there a better guy right now in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League? Would you trade him for anybody? Kick punt
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Speaker 1: returner in the entire league right now.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, and I think the reason
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Speaker 3: being is all to start with the basics. Just he
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Speaker 3: is so smooth catching the ball like that's that's a rarity,
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Speaker 3: it really is. You have guys back there a lot,
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Speaker 3: even some of the best returners you've seen in the league,
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Speaker 3: who you look, they look a little bit uncomfortable trying
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Speaker 3: to catch a punt and are moving last second, They're
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Speaker 3: not really getting their feet underneath it, and they are
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Speaker 3: catching it in awkward positions. And that's as a coach,
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Speaker 3: a special teams coach, as any coach, that's kind of
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Speaker 3: put some doubt in your mind if you have a
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Speaker 3: guy back there not judging the punts very well. But
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Speaker 3: Rashid is flawless at it. I mean he really is.
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Speaker 3: The way he sets himself up, he's always catching the
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Speaker 3: ball on the same spot and you just trust that
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Speaker 3: he's always going to catch the ball. And that's the
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Speaker 3: number one thing. It's always what I was told when
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Speaker 3: I was part of during Pete Carroll used to tell
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Speaker 3: me before I got off every almost every single punt
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Speaker 3: returns out there, hey get the ball back to our offense.
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Speaker 3: Get the ball back to our offense, you know, and
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Speaker 3: so it's like, all right, yeah, I guess that is
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Speaker 3: my job technically, get the ball to Marshaun Lynch and
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Speaker 3: Russ and let them do their things. So that's very,
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Speaker 3: very just basic. Rashida is probably the best in the
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Speaker 3: league at that the way he does it, and then
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Speaker 3: you look at what he does with the explosiveness, and
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Speaker 3: what I love about Rashida is he doesn't try to
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Speaker 3: be someone that he's not. And when I say that,
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Speaker 3: I mean he's not back there dancing around, going side
16:32
Speaker 3: to side, waiting for something to develop, trying to juke
16:36
Speaker 3: and reversing feel He's not doing that. That's not his game.
16:39
Speaker 3: His game is being decisive. His game is trusting the
16:42
Speaker 3: return and using his speed to find the gashes in
16:47
Speaker 3: the return. And that's exactly what he has done and
16:49
Speaker 3: that's how he's when he has three return touchdowns last year,
16:53
Speaker 3: one punt, two kickoff returns, maybe even more if I'm
16:56
Speaker 3: not mistaken, But that's when you watch all those return
17:00
Speaker 3: they're all the same. It's just I'm catching it and
17:02
Speaker 3: I'm going and I'm gonna I'm putting my foot in
17:05
Speaker 3: the ground. And I'm making my one cut and I'm gone,
17:07
Speaker 3: and I'm using my speed out run everybody. And that's
17:09
Speaker 3: what he does best. So it's it's fun to watch
17:12
Speaker 3: a guy who trusts his speed so much, and you're
17:16
Speaker 3: not sitting there as a fan, not sitting there as
17:18
Speaker 3: an analyst, not sitting there as the coach, kind of like,
17:20
Speaker 3: come on, make up, like get up field, get up field.
17:23
Speaker 3: You know you're not. Don't have that thoughts with him.
17:25
Speaker 3: He's going, he's hitting it and if he he only
17:28
Speaker 3: gets ten yards, great, that's awesome. He makes those ten
17:31
Speaker 3: yards count, you know, because he hits it hard and
17:33
Speaker 3: that's like the first first down for the offense. So
17:36
Speaker 3: that's what I love watching him. He's just very, very decisive.
17:40
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to go with it and can can spring
17:42
Speaker 3: it at any moment.
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Speaker 1: Love it, great stuff. Thank you man, appreciated good having
17:46
Speaker 1: you on. We'll have to bug you more frequently. It
17:50
Speaker 1: was it was a pleasure, awesome.
17:52
Speaker 3: Well, hey, thanks for having me and had good luck
17:55
Speaker 3: with the rest of it. Do you know who you
17:56
Speaker 3: have coming up?
17:57
Speaker 1: Well, we keep it a little bit of a secret,
17:59
Speaker 1: but on Monday we'll have our own Hugh Millen and
18:02
Speaker 1: he's our resident quarterback, so that probably gives you a
18:06
Speaker 1: hint as to who we're gonna do on Monday.
18:08
Speaker 3: We go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love it.
18:09
Speaker 3: I love it awesome. Thanks, good luck with the rest
18:12
Speaker 3: of it. Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 2: You appreciate you.
18:14
Speaker 1: Brian Walters, former Seahawk joining us right here for our
18:18
Speaker 1: Seahawks one series now part of us here in the
18:20
Speaker 1: Seattle media with the television post game and so we
18:24
Speaker 1: appreciate him coming on here today and breaking down Rashid Shahi.
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Speaker 2: That's how you do it right there.
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Speaker 4: That's great.
18:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was great. That's how you do you break
18:32
Speaker 1: it down from Ruder to Tutor. Coming up next. Speaking
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Speaker 1: of which, let's talk piggies. Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 1: three kJ RFM. Oh yeah, we get our piggyback ribs
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Speaker 1: going on again.
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Speaker 4: Get piggyback on.
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Speaker 2: It's Chuck and Ashley.
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Speaker 1: Whether you're here on this Friday, Booze News coming your
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Speaker 1: taking your your piggyback ribs and then just pairing them
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Speaker 4: I always, especially with that Yellowstone bourbon, goes so well
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Speaker 4: with your piggyback grips.
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Speaker 1: Did you have anything at the cafeteria yesterday?
19:06
Speaker 3: Did you?
19:07
Speaker 2: I did not have anything.
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Speaker 4: No, there was no food available, just warm temperatures and
19:12
Speaker 4: a lot of speeches.
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Speaker 1: What is the point of going to a grade school
19:15
Speaker 1: cafeteria without getting like, you know, a little.
19:19
Speaker 2: Meat loaf served to you somebody with a hairnet?
19:23
Speaker 4: I think the same. I had the same thoughts and
19:25
Speaker 4: the same visualizations. But it is the cafeteria and the
19:30
Speaker 4: gym so okay, and the and the auditorium, so it
19:33
Speaker 4: really triples. It's a triple workspace that we were going
19:37
Speaker 4: with there for the fifth grade graduation.
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Speaker 1: Have nothing else, just like a fruit salad, like a
19:40
Speaker 1: mixed fruit you know from the can?
19:42
Speaker 3: Is that? Yeah?
19:44
Speaker 2: So delicious? It's the best or a pair half.
19:47
Speaker 4: I feel like my day yesterday was a complete failure,
19:50
Speaker 4: is really all I'm thinking.
19:52
Speaker 1: Because you didn't have any cafeteria. If you just went
19:55
Speaker 1: to a measly old graduation, yeah.
19:58
Speaker 4: My kids done with elementary school. Okay, Well what did
20:00
Speaker 4: I get for it?
20:01
Speaker 2: You don't know?
20:02
Speaker 4: Cocktails?
20:03
Speaker 2: You have a.
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Speaker 1: Graduation, you have a party probably ceremony inside a cafeteria,
20:09
Speaker 1: and the cafeteria doesn't cater the party.
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Speaker 4: I mean, what are we doing with our lives? Milk creek.
20:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think all the parents should have been able
20:17
Speaker 1: to go buy and pick out a milk.
20:21
Speaker 4: I would have hated that one. Actually, did you ever.
20:26
Speaker 1: Have any thing called a frittata? We had a frittata,
20:29
Speaker 1: and I think in the Midwest somebody just made it up.
20:32
Speaker 1: They're like, it was like a pizza with like Mexican
20:35
Speaker 1: ingredients on it and it was flat, and they just
20:37
Speaker 1: called it a frittata.
20:39
Speaker 2: But everybody looked forward to frittata Day.
20:41
Speaker 4: I mean, it sounds pretty good. I've had a frittata,
20:43
Speaker 4: like when you actually make a fritata, which I believe
20:45
Speaker 4: is with egg. Yeah, I've had that, but never this
20:48
Speaker 4: one you speak.
20:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, we called it a forritata because we never heard
20:51
Speaker 1: of actual uh you know gourmet recipes.
20:55
Speaker 4: Well, who has an in lunchroom cafeteria?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But anyway, Donnie West and their big giant butt
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Speaker 1: serving me for tata's on a biweekly basis serve some
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21:21
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21:24
Speaker 1: plus Mariners baseball. What a wonderful saturday I've just carved
21:29
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21:31
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the piggyback, because it's gotta
21:44
Speaker 1: it needs to come back into our lives at this point.
21:47
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the things that we are struggling
21:49
Speaker 1: with as a baseball team, especially our pitching staff.
21:52
Speaker 2: Right now.
21:52
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a very good pitching staff. We
21:55
Speaker 1: have very good starting pitching. We have very good relief pitching.
21:58
Speaker 1: For all the people that have been about how bad
22:01
Speaker 1: our relief is, well, you're not paying attention. I mean
22:05
Speaker 1: the statistics suggest that we have one of the best
22:08
Speaker 1: bullpens in all of baseball. Statistically, I think at one
22:12
Speaker 1: point this week we were number one, and we're hovering
22:16
Speaker 1: around number one in the American League in terms of
22:19
Speaker 1: bullpen era. And obviously we're well known for our starting pitching.
22:23
Speaker 1: We have so much starting pitching that we had to
22:26
Speaker 1: invent this piggyback thing.
22:28
Speaker 2: So it's good, and yet we.
22:30
Speaker 1: Still are trying to figure out how to piece this
22:32
Speaker 1: thing together. And despite all of those good things happening
22:36
Speaker 1: for our pitching staff, apparently we reached a crisis this
22:39
Speaker 1: week with our bullpen that everybody was tired and nobody
22:44
Speaker 1: was available, And for two straight days it seems like
22:46
Speaker 1: nobody was available. And even when guys were available earlier
22:50
Speaker 1: this week, I mean, we're just asking too much of them.
22:53
Speaker 1: I frankly don't know how you could have painted yourself
22:56
Speaker 1: in this corner, because one thing we lead the American
22:59
Speaker 1: League in is fewest pitches thrown by our bullpen in
23:03
Speaker 1: the American League. And so I don't know how you
23:08
Speaker 1: got to this lowly state of being on a road
23:13
Speaker 1: and not being able to get through a series. I mean,
23:16
Speaker 1: we barely got through one game in this series. The
23:19
Speaker 1: second this game two was where we're asking people to
23:25
Speaker 1: do things that they've never been asked to do. Forere
23:28
Speaker 1: threw over forty pitches d Villa's closing in the tenth
23:31
Speaker 1: inning for goodness sake, So we only got through one
23:35
Speaker 1: game without a crisis in our bullpen. I don't know
23:39
Speaker 1: how that happens to you. When you've thrown the fewest
23:42
Speaker 1: innings out of your bullpen in the entire league.
23:45
Speaker 2: How does that even occur?
23:46
Speaker 4: I mean, it is a great question. And I would
23:48
Speaker 4: say too, with that extra inning game. You don't want
23:51
Speaker 4: extra innings a lot, but you would think you could
23:53
Speaker 4: at least handle going past a tenth inning. And what
23:56
Speaker 4: were we going to do. We'd have Davilla go out
23:58
Speaker 4: for and he'd end up throwing four pitches if you
24:00
Speaker 4: went to an eleventh, If.
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Speaker 2: He went to eleven, it had been to Villa.
24:03
Speaker 4: If you'd have gone to a twelfth, then what it
24:05
Speaker 4: might have.
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Speaker 2: Been to Villa?
24:06
Speaker 1: And it might have been Johnny Pareda. And I'm not
24:08
Speaker 1: even kidding because he has pitched before in major.
24:10
Speaker 4: League games, so he'd be he's the new Leo Rivas.
24:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the game on the line, you're going to
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Speaker 1: your backup catcher to try to, you know, win in
24:18
Speaker 1: the thirteenth inning. That's apparently what we were on a
24:22
Speaker 1: collision course for having. So I don't quite understand how
24:26
Speaker 1: you've gotten into that shape, But if you're in that shape,
24:29
Speaker 1: we've even used the piggyback successfully for three trips through
24:32
Speaker 1: the rotation where we hardly even touched our bullpen, and
24:37
Speaker 1: people are so angry about it, and you were still
24:40
Speaker 1: stretched that incredibly thin somehow, some way. So if that's
24:47
Speaker 1: what we're dealing with, and we need to be that
24:51
Speaker 1: careful with all of our bullpen arms, because we have
24:55
Speaker 1: five really good guys and a couple. I like Davila,
24:59
Speaker 1: I like Hoppey, I like what I've seen out of them.
25:02
Speaker 2: We don't have a bad bullpen. We have a really
25:04
Speaker 2: good bullpen.
25:04
Speaker 4: Two very good outings in a row for Davila mm hm.
25:08
Speaker 1: And so I mean, I don't know how you got
25:10
Speaker 1: to that state, but that's where you are. And it
25:13
Speaker 1: sounds to me like you have to go back to
25:16
Speaker 1: the piggyback after these two turns, since you've committed to
25:19
Speaker 1: two turns with a six man rotation. If this messes
25:23
Speaker 1: you up this much, you have to go back to
25:25
Speaker 1: the piggyback.
25:26
Speaker 2: We need that.
25:27
Speaker 1: Every fifth day, one starter goes five innings and the
25:30
Speaker 1: other starter goes four innings, so that Apparently we have
25:34
Speaker 1: to save our bullpen once every five games, otherwise we
25:37
Speaker 1: can't get through a series.
25:39
Speaker 4: Oh frustrating, I want my piggyback, piggyback, piggyback.
25:43
Speaker 2: Well, there's another reason to have it.
25:44
Speaker 1: We got a couple of struggling starters right now, Ryan
25:47
Speaker 1: wo and George Kirby are not pitching well consistently. Right now,
25:51
Speaker 1: here's a third thing. When George Kirby does pitch well,
25:55
Speaker 1: it is usually for exactly five innings, and then when
25:59
Speaker 1: he goes out for the sixth he gets in trouble,
26:02
Speaker 1: like he did this last time through the rotation. As
26:05
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I saw this stat. Somebody else
26:07
Speaker 1: came up with it. It wasn't me, But we have the
26:10
Speaker 1: fourth worst RRA in Major League Baseball in the sixth inning. Now,
26:15
Speaker 1: in that odd yeah, a five point seven to three ERA.
26:18
Speaker 1: One of the best bullpens in the sport, one of
26:20
Speaker 1: the best starting rotations in the sport. But for whatever reason,
26:23
Speaker 1: in the sixth inning, we have a five point seven
26:26
Speaker 1: to three r in the sixth inning. And it's not
26:30
Speaker 1: because of the bullpen, it's because of our starters. It's
26:32
Speaker 1: because George Kirby. For whatever reason falls apart in the
26:36
Speaker 1: sixth Logan Gilbert, for whatever reason, when he has a problem,
26:39
Speaker 1: it's usually in the sixth. I don't know why this
26:41
Speaker 1: is happening, but it is happening, and it's so crazy,
26:45
Speaker 1: is it not? When we were doing the piggyback and
26:47
Speaker 1: everybody's like, how on earth could you take Bryce Miller
26:50
Speaker 1: out after just five innings when he's got a one
26:53
Speaker 1: header and then he's finally allowed to let.
26:56
Speaker 2: It rip and he goes six inning?
26:59
Speaker 1: Yep, I mean there's a one inning difference. If that's
27:02
Speaker 1: all we're getting is one extra inning out of our starter,
27:07
Speaker 1: then why wouldn't we go to the piggyback? Why wouldn't
27:10
Speaker 1: we have him go five and Castill go four, or
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Speaker 1: Kirby go five and Wu go four until they can
27:16
Speaker 1: get their crap together? Why wouldn't we do that if
27:19
Speaker 1: it means we can save the entire bullpen once every
27:23
Speaker 1: five days so that we don't end up in the
27:26
Speaker 1: mess that we apparently ended up this week in Baltimore, Maryland.
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Speaker 4: I don't know why you don't at least try it,
27:31
Speaker 4: because look at what it has done to Castile. I mean,
27:35
Speaker 4: he went from being our first Pitcher to one of
27:38
Speaker 4: our most sturdy.
27:39
Speaker 1: Maybe that would have happened anyway, maybe he was on
27:42
Speaker 1: the course, or maybe that extra incentive of like, hey,
27:47
Speaker 1: they're really asking me to prove myself here, and I
27:49
Speaker 1: can't let Bryce down. Right now, we're piggybacked. Right now,
27:54
Speaker 1: we're like a team in all of this. I got
27:56
Speaker 1: to do my part. Whatever happened, it sharpened Castile. Maybe
28:00
Speaker 1: it could do the same thing for Kirby and Woo.
28:02
Speaker 1: And I know that Kirby will fight it. He'll probably
28:05
Speaker 1: punch Pete Woodworth right in the bridge of his nose.
28:09
Speaker 1: But when he can own when he's struggling to get
28:12
Speaker 1: through the sixth, ye might be a solution.
28:15
Speaker 2: George.
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Speaker 1: We just need five out of you tonight, and then
28:19
Speaker 1: whether it's Woo or whether it's Castillo, it better not
28:22
Speaker 1: be Miller. They can finish the four. I know how
28:26
Speaker 1: uncomfortable it made it. I know people are sick of
28:28
Speaker 1: the word, all of that sort of thing. But the
28:31
Speaker 1: merits have outshined the negative aspects of the piggyback experiment,
28:36
Speaker 1: and I frankly won it back. I went to the
28:39
Speaker 1: bar the other night, I got piggyback whistle pig bourbon,
28:43
Speaker 1: and I tried to drink the thing back and do exist.
28:46
Speaker 5: I mean, I wish it had worked. Well, it might
28:48
Speaker 5: maybe he didn't drink enough. We're committed to this, but
28:50
Speaker 5: it might work. Maybe the next time, when we're done
28:54
Speaker 5: the six man rotation, which I don't want to do anymore. Nope,
28:57
Speaker 5: then maybe we do go back to the piggyback, because
29:00
Speaker 5: it kind of feels like we need to do it.
29:03
Speaker 5: We can't manage the bullpen. Dan can't manage the bullpen
29:07
Speaker 5: to keep everybody available and healthy to get us through games.
29:11
Speaker 4: If nothing else, what benefit is the six man rotation
29:14
Speaker 4: giving you? None would be So there you go.
29:18
Speaker 1: The idea about the six man rotation was that all
29:20
Speaker 1: of our starters could go an extra inning. And yet
29:23
Speaker 1: we're still Logans just getting through the sixth. Even with
29:26
Speaker 1: him gutting it up and going over one hundred pitches,
29:29
Speaker 1: he still only got through the sixth. So I think
29:33
Speaker 1: I want my piggyback, piggyback, piggyback back.
29:35
Speaker 4: I do.
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Speaker 1: All right, booze news next on Kjar.
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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, we're close out the week,
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Speaker 2: and you know how we do that?
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Speaker 4: Him Ashley And this is the business.
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Speaker 4: I like it both ways. Well, the World Cup is here,
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Speaker 2: All right, I'm ready for this.
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Speaker 4: Can the US win the World Cup? Let's take a
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Speaker 4: look at the stats, Chuck, the number one FIFA ranked
31:23
Speaker 4: team has never won the World Cup? Is the US
31:26
Speaker 4: the number one ranked team?
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Speaker 6: Sure?
31:29
Speaker 4: All right?
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Speaker 6: Check checking on door winner, which is a really good
31:38
Speaker 6: award for an individual player has never won the World Cup.
31:42
Speaker 2: The old bond door door.
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Speaker 4: That person has never won the World Cup. O revre France.
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Speaker 1: Oh you were out of your process of elimination liking this.
31:53
Speaker 1: Get out of here, France. You're gonna choke anyway like
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Speaker 1: everybody else from and if you.
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Speaker 4: Weren't gonna, well, you're gonna headbutts if he got angry.
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Speaker 4: A team making its World Cup debut has never won. Sorry,
32:05
Speaker 4: who's Bekistan? Sorry? Currisow oh Cape Verde, I'm sorry. And Jordan,
32:11
Speaker 4: you're out cheat it, Jordan. No playoff team has ever
32:16
Speaker 4: won Siya, Katar, Saudi Arabia, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Sweden, Turkey, Chechia, Congo,
32:21
Speaker 4: d R and Iraq. Only two. That's right, Chuck. Two
32:28
Speaker 4: coaches have ever won the Champions League and the World Cup,
32:31
Speaker 4: but no manager has ever won both the Premier League
32:35
Speaker 4: and the World Cup.
32:37
Speaker 5: Despanda, Brazil, right between the lines, Brazil, and we'll spit
32:45
Speaker 5: that out of my nose.
32:46
Speaker 4: No manager in his sixties or older has ever won
32:49
Speaker 4: the World Cup. So kick rock, Scotland, South Africa, Austria, Columbia, Netherlands, Spain, Iran, Uruguay, Algeria, Mexico, Paraguay,
32:57
Speaker 4: Belgium and Ghana.
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Speaker 1: Ghana was hold way too long. I was worried that
33:02
Speaker 1: they were going to end up winning this.
33:04
Speaker 4: Yep, they're not sixty year old coaches. Can't do it.
33:07
Speaker 2: Peus, they've been eliminated.
33:08
Speaker 4: Poacha, Tina's only fifty four boom, the only first time
33:13
Speaker 4: trophy winner since nineteen sixty six was a host nation. Now,
33:19
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know this, Oh, but we
33:21
Speaker 4: are a host nation who has yet to win a
33:24
Speaker 4: World Cup.
33:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't get to. We're taken by Canada.
33:27
Speaker 4: That's right. You know who hasn't won it and isn't
33:30
Speaker 4: a host nation Croatia, Norway, Switzerland, Ecuador, Haiti and Panama.
33:35
Speaker 2: You're right here, you're gone. Don't let the door hit you.
33:39
Speaker 4: See they wanted analysis, they got it, they did. No
33:42
Speaker 4: team ranked worse than eighteenth and the FIFA rankings has
33:45
Speaker 4: won the World Cup astill have Eastern New Zealand, Egypt,
33:47
Speaker 4: Ivory Coast, Canada, South Korea, Australia and Tunisia. Thank god,
33:52
Speaker 4: thank god we're seventeenth. Yeah, now this one hurts a bit.
33:56
Speaker 4: England has never won an international tournament outside of England.
34:00
Speaker 4: Are we in England?
34:01
Speaker 2: No?
34:01
Speaker 4: Sure, not, sorry.
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Speaker 2: Lads, you're not good at sports.
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Speaker 4: No player over the age of forty has ever won
34:08
Speaker 4: the World Cup. Rinaldo you old fart you in Portugal?
34:12
Speaker 4: You're out hit the bricks, geriatric. Every World Cup winner
34:17
Speaker 4: since nineteen eighty two has employed at least one player
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Speaker 4: from one of these top teams Bayern, Munich, Acey Milan,
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Speaker 4: Inter Milan or Liverpool Liverpool Thanks Polisic, he plays for
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Speaker 4: a cy Milan has at one point, yes did at
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Speaker 4: one point. A team can't verify that I saw it
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Speaker 4: on the thing, that I stole all this stuff from.
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Speaker 4: A team that has been eliminated from the group stages
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Speaker 4: in two consecutive World Cups has never won the World
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Speaker 4: Cup Veeterzy jeremany.
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Speaker 2: Down the road with you.
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Speaker 4: Across the past ten World Cups, no team is won
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Speaker 4: without someone who has scored at least seventeen international goals
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Speaker 4: on the roster.
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Speaker 1: Cyanara Japan, tay a long walk on a short pier Japan.
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Speaker 4: So which team clears all those hurdles?
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Speaker 2: Chucky um America?
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Speaker 4: You yes, hey, you hey, you hey. That is analysis.
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