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S2 Ep8 The Power of Saying 'Yes' & Walking in Obedience · Called BEYOND

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Before asking God, what do you want me to do? You know, before saying,
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God, tell me what do you want me to do? And now I'll want, you know,
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I'll consider being obedient.
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What I'll do is, God, I'm putting my yes on the table.
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No questions asked. Now that the yes is there.
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Okay, now let me know what I just agreed to. You might hear something you don't
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want to hear, something you're scared off to lean into.
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And for us, that was, hey, you should go to Afghanistan. them.
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We said, yes, God, we're willing. And then the door closed in front of us.
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Music.
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Welcome to Called Beyond, a Novo Mission podcast.
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We love sharing stories about how we can hear God speaking to us,
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as well as what happens when we say yes to His calling in our lives.
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During this second season of the podcast, we're highlighting three spiritual
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rhythms reflected in the life of Christ.
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Cave, the place of encounter with God's word and presence.
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Table, the place of belonging with supportive family and friends.
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And Road, the place of spiritual engagement in the world.
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Well, welcome everybody to another episode of the Called Beyond podcast.
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It's a joy to be with you again, whether this is the first episode you are tuning
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into or whether you have been along the journey with us. Welcome.
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We're so glad that you're here. I feel like many times on this podcast,
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I've gotten to introduce you guys to friends of mine that I have gotten to partner
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up with and watch God do amazing things with.
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And today, I actually get to meet for the first time along with you what I hope
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will be a new friend in Dave Matthews, who is the president of Reflejo,
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which is a independent global partner with Novo, where we kind of link arms
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with other orgs doing similar things around the world, pursuing movements of God.
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And so it's a joy to welcome Dave to the podcast. You know, we like to say something
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fun about our guests so that you can see yourself in them a little bit.
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So Dave and his wife, they literally are fostering a brand new puppy for a kind
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of as a service animal, which is so fun.
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So sleepless nights and the yipping and yapping all night long.
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I'm very familiar with that myself. But will you guys join me in welcoming Dave
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to the podcast today? Welcome, Dave.
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Hey, Tim. It's good to be here. So one of the things that I would love to do
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is to just ask, what is Reflejo?
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Maybe give us kind of that rundown of as you explain what a day in your life,
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what is a day in Reflejo and what is the mission of Reflejo that you get to
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steward as the founder and president?
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Yeah, thank you, Tim. I think the mission of Reflejo is a mission very, very dear to my heart.
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And the reason why is my wife and I were part of being able to start this organization
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four or five years ago now.
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All your audience and you are very familiar with Novo. And one of the cool,
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fantastic things about Novo is if you're in the U.S.
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And you have a call to the unreached, if you have a call to gospel movements,
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there's this organization based out of Anaheim you can give a call to and they
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can connect you with training, with opportunities, with a team on the ground
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where you can go and live out missionally your calling, whether it's in the
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States or across the world.
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But there is that on-ramp for living missionally towards movements and towards the unreached.
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Well, in many cases in Latin America, the church, in many contexts,
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a very vibrant church, hears that same Great Commission, gets that burden to
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be missionally involved with the unreached.
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And historically, there's not been many organizations that can take that place
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of walking alongside of the individual,
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walking alongside of a family or of a church, and help them discover what that
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calling looks like, and then help them walk through the whole process of discovering
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the call, of being trained, of going to the field, of thriving on the field.
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And so that's what Reflejo does. We find people that have that apostolic seal,
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people that have that burden for the unreached, burden for the nation's passion
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to see gospel movements happen.
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And we walk alongside of them to make sure that they have everything they need
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to get to the place God has called them to be.
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And then we can maximize their potential by coming alongside of them and encouraging
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them as their missions agency.
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Well, that's amazing. So in a sense, what
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Reflejo is doing is it is capturing the excitement of the Latin American people
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and providing them an on-ramp and a place where they can find home and actually
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do or pursue the calling that God has put on their life.
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Exactly. Exactly. The way I think about it, a couple of stories come to mind.
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And before we started Reflejo, we would go around sharing about this plight
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of the unreached in Latin America.
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And we met a couple of people that came to us and said, hey, Dave.
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And this is my new 2017, 2018. Hey, Dave, I got a call to be a missionary in Asia in 2004.
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Or a 30-year-old that will come to us and say, hey, Dave, I'm 31 now.
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We got a call to go serve in so-and-so country when I was eight years old.
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So this has been a couple decades in the building.
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And then the next sentence they said was, I've never met anybody that can help
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me live out that calling.
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I've been waiting. I've been praying. My church has been waiting and praying.
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We recognize it as a legitimate calling.
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We just don't know where to start. We don't know who that partner could be that comes along us.
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And so really for us, it's been, we know God is calling Latinos to be obedient
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to the Great Commission.
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There's a lot of people with that song in their heart. And we just want to be
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able to unleash that potential, to be there, to come alongside them so they
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can truly fulfill the Great Commission themselves.
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Wow. What an amazing story. And it's impacting kind of my worldview a little
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bit, which is just, you know, the uninformed bias that I walk around with every day.
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Maybe give us kind of an overview of how broad this reaches,
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because Latin America is, you know, starts with Mexico and ends at the bottom of Chile.
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Like where like how far are you is your network of people that you're reaching?
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And is there a specific location or a few countries or where exactly is kind
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of the footprint of Reflejo today? Yeah.
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So around the world, there is 22 countries that speak Spanish or Portuguese
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as their primary language was known as Hebrew America.
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It's Central America, South America, Spain, and Portugal.
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Out of those 22 countries, we have teams of volunteer mobilizers and advocates
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for missions that are mobilizing the Latin American church in 17 of those 22
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countries. That's amazing. Wow. That's like,
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So that's 70%, 75% plus. I'm not good at quick math. I'm good at missions,
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but arithmetic, you might get me stuck with.
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We got it. Well, that's amazing. I'm wondering if there's something that surprised
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you that comes to mind in maybe a story of just like, wow,
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that it totally expanded the way that I think about missions and the commission
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and in my own walk and where I'm going.
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Yeah. So initially my wife and I, we thought we were going to be people that went.
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We both got individual calls to missions when we were 14. We didn't know each other at that point.
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And then we met a few years after in college.
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And eventually we both heard a call to a specific country in Central Asia.
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And we thought, you know, we'll be the ones, like many others say,
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we'll pack all our stuff in our coffin and go and maybe never come back because
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we want to dedicate all our life's there.
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And while we're preparing to go, one of the things that people prepared us as
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we're hearing our call to missions was that you might hear something you don't
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want to hear, something you're scared off to lean into.
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And for us, that was, hey, you should go to Afghanistan.
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And if any of your listeners have seen the news for the last couple of years
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about Afghanistan, typically it's not happy memories or safe as a context that comes to mind.
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It's a lot of war, a lot of danger, a lot of poverty and persecution and so on.
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And so we had to wrestle with the fact of, are we really willing to put our
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lives at risk for me as a husband with my new young wife at that point?
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I'm willing to bring her into this context to be faithful to God.
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And then the next thing that happened that really rocked our world was we said,
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yes, God, we're willing. And then the door closed in front of us.
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So we kind of went through this whole thing where we're like,
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are we actually going to get there?
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And then suddenly, no, this is not happening. And I think back at the story
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of Abraham, you know, being willing to leave the land of his parents to go to this new promised land.
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He's promised his whole descendants and all these things.
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And he's willing to step out of faith, not knowing where his path and journey might end up.
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And finally, he starts seeing some of the things come together.
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He finally gets Isaac, his son, after so many years, he's a miracle baby.
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And then God says, actually, you know what? Go up to that mountain, I'm gonna take him away.
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And that was that moment for us of, God, we've journeyed thus far already and
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we were willing to put all this forth and own the risk and so on.
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And now you're taking this away.
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What are you doing in the midst of all this? And what ended up happening for
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us was that God put that passion in our heart for that region of the world.
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And that just ended up bursting forth and being shared with other people.
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And what we've been able to see is not only inspire many other people to do
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the same thing, but also being able to recognize in Latin America and many Latinos
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that they've had that passion for years in many cases.
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And it's also frustrating that they couldn't find a way to go.
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And so we get to sit down with them and look them eye to eye or be shoulder
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to shoulder and say, I know how you feel and I'm going to try to do whatever
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I can to make sure that you get to live out your calling because the calling
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that God's given you is too important to miss out on.
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So one example of one story that comes to mind, it's this young lady,
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I'll call her Hannah to protect her identity. She's in the field right now.
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But Hannah was, or is from Bolivia.
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She grew up not knowing where her parents were. She grew up in a group home
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in a little village in Bolivia.
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I mean, if you think of where the American thinks, I'm gonna go do missions
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in Latin America, that's the kind of place we will go to, right?
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It's a little village in the middle of the mountains in Bolivia,
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and there is a group home there, and there is this young girl who doesn't know who her parents are.
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She grows up, she gets to be a believer, and eventually she ends up congregating
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at a house church of 10 people in this village.
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Now, she gets a call to go to the unreached across the globe in Asia.
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In anybody's mind, how in the world is Hannah, with no family support,
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without a large church and large connections in a small village, going to get there?
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Well, she knew God had called her, and so she said, I'm going to focus,
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and the first thing I can control is, I'm going to study.
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She ended up becoming a nurse, and for her to come out of her context and actually
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get an education, get a degree, get ahead, she said, I'm going to do this because
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I know this is part of what it's going to take for me to go.
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And eventually after that, her church said, well, if you're stepping out in
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faith and getting your degree, we'll step out in faith and look for a partner
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that can help us figure out how to get there. So we ended up coming across them a couple of years ago.
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And they said, we don't know what it takes. We're in. What do we need to do?
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So I said, well, Hannah needs to raise support and Hannah needs to be trained.
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And so this church, these 10 people, they started calling every other church
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they knew and said, join us in the journey. Let's send Hannah together.
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And the Bolivian church rallied around Hannah and said, we are going to send her.
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And long story short, she is now in Tajikistan serving.
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She has been a rock star. She's actually the best one on her team in learning language.
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It's been fantastic. And we're hearing some really, really cool stories of how
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God's using her in the field already. That's amazing. Wow. That is so cool.
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I even just I think I'm blown away, right? Because there's there's the story
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where she had a calling and through diligence,
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working hard, just trusting and taking the first step and then the next step
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and the next step and the next step to get there and everybody else receiving
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their individual callings that became a part of that as well.
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And I guess I'm reflecting back to your and your wife's story as well,
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where it was sort of like you guys right there on the cusp, about ready to go
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in that kind of Abraham and Isaac moment that you described so well.
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There's a juxtaposition there, right? Where
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it's sort of like the Lord brought you to that place so you could experience
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the heart for a thing and start asking these questions that are now finding
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grounds and seeing other people move from an impossibility into it being a reality.
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And then the stories that you get to help author and come alongside through
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partnership is just, I mean, it's just, it's hitting me.
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And I think for, you know, the listener, as you're listening to these stories
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as well, there's a little bit of that,
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like, does anybody know what it feels like to have a door slammed in your face
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kind of moment where you thought you were going to be doing one thing and all
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of a sudden you got to pivot.
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You know, I feel like there's a lot of like similarities in that.
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And then also this just like, like sometimes the Lord puts a thought or a dream
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in our mind that just seems impossible, feels impossible.
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But there's this compelling sort of like angst that kind of starts growing inside
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where you realize like this just this has to be, you know.
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And so I think, you know, in that wrestle of trying to figure out what's the
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next right step for me to take,
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is there a process that you walk people through that you come across and meet
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with that helps them determine what that next step might be?
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Yes. One of the things that comes to mind back when I was in college,
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I was in Bible school and my first college roommate, he was a grade ahead of
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me and he was also wanting to be a missionary.
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And this was before I was still trying to determine what my calling was.
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He gave me some advice that he heard from his youth pastor.
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He said, Dave, I never heard a call to missions. I just read the Bible.
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I saw it there and I said, I want to do this.
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And when I started looking what I could do or how I could get involved,
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I was wrestling with the same idea.
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The advice that he got, the advice that he passed on to me was,
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look at the most harebrained thing that you could do with the biggest need,
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the biggest open door, the most potential.
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Just go ahead and go for the wildest dream you can think of and lean into that.
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And if God gets scared, he'll let you know.
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Oftentimes, we're the ones to flinch right away and say, unless God invites
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us, unless God is nudging us every step of the way and holding our hand,
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you know, every single step, we don't want to step out.
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And what he told me, and what we've seen a lot of people step into in faith
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has been, you know, start walking.
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You know, you can steer a car while it's in movement. It's really hard to steer a car while it's parked.
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And so that's a reality we've seen. An exercise that we do often with our teams,
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and one of the things that we do ourselves, it's before asking God, what do you want me to do?
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You know, before saying, God, tell me what do you want me to do?
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And now I'll consider being obedient.
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What I'll do is, God, I'm putting my yes on the table. No questions asked.
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Now that the yes is there, okay, now let me know what I just agreed to.
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And then we can figure out the how, but the agreement, the blank check,
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like I already put the blank check, signed it, you fill in the number, you fill in the request.
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And that's the kind of obedience that it's taken to get from one small decision
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to the next, to the next, to the next.
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And I feel like once you make that decision to be radically obedient,
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no questions asked on the front end of that obedience, right?
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Then it just becomes about managing what God tells you. Yeah.
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Yeah, that's really good. And if the listeners have been on this journey from the very beginning,
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so much of what you just said has been confirmed by other people is when you
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give God your yes, first and then trust him to work out, you know,
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what exactly it is that I just said yes to.
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That really is the exciting adventure that partnering with God looks like.
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I've been right there with you too. I mean, it's just like we oftentimes will
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present God with yes or no questions.
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Do I stay or do I go?
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Do I, you know, do I turn right or do I turn left?
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And I think even in the New Testament, like when Jesus gets presented with definitive
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answer questions is he tells a story.
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He tells a perfect story for the perfect moment for the people that were there.
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And it teaches them a life lesson that allows them to be able to answer the
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question for themselves now and throughout time.
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And we all get the benefit of getting to read that.
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And as we learn through these parable stories of what it looks like to partner
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with God and what the kingdom actually looks like is it's a heart posture of yes.
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And that heart posture of yes steers you towards the next breadcrumb,
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if you will, as you're on this path trying to follow Jesus.
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Maybe tell us what has prayer kind of meant for you?
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Maybe in the early days when you and your wife are one, figuring out like,
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well, what do we do now that this door is closed in kind of the inception of Reflejo.
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And as like the first couple of people, what does it look like to pray through
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and discover what that yes meant to you guys?
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One thing that I remember learning when I was a student at Moody,
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as a professor always told us that the Spirit speaks to us and abides in us.
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And as long as we're leaning into obedience, we'll kind of still be in tune with the Spirit.
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And if it's disobedience or it's sin or something else that gets in the way,
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it kind of starts to stifle the voice and the clarity of the Spirit in his dialogue with us.
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So one of the things that I thought early on was, well, if we don't create room
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for that stifling to begin with, once we're hearing him clearly and we just
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lean into obedience, we can just stay at that space.
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And so one of the things that I mentioned was that exercise of just saying yes
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first. That's been very important.
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Something else that's come to us that's been super, super helpful has been just
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clarifying, God, what is on our hands and what is in your hands?
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So if you think about starting Reflejo and where Sarah and I were in our early
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20s, we think God is calling us to start a missions agency to send people to
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places like Afghanistan.
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And we're gonna have to be responsible for their training, for their wellbeing, for all these things.
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We don't know who's gonna even trust us to be responsible for them.
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Where are the people gonna come that are actually going to be helping be part
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of this team to put this organization together, you know, but we think that we can do our part.
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God, help us be faithful on our part and we will completely trust you for your
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part. I think of the story of Noah. He was called to build the ark.
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He wasn't called to rally the animals, you know?
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And so very clearly thinking through that and saying, God, we are gonna pray
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aggressively about just, we are handing this over to you.
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This is your part. We trust you for it. And we are gonna act like it's already
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a reality. and then on our part, just help us be good, faithful stewards.
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When you dream big dreams, when you're taking on a big challenge and you see
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it, this is totally, I'm way over my head.
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It becomes easier to pray because there's no other choice.
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And so one of the things that we've been blessed us in our prayer life has been
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asking God, keep us uncomfortable because then it's easier to come to you.
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Growing up, my pastor always used to say, it's hard to pray for your daily bread with a full pantry.
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Wow. Yeah, you mentioned Abraham earlier, and he believed God and it was credited
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to him as righteousness.
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And I think there's that, you know, faith is really choosing to act without
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all of the information and putting your faith in God rather than in your own
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circumstances, what's in your hand,
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what's in your pantry, as it will, and moving anyway.
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And I think what you're saying there is, I mean, it's simple,
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profound, it's very difficult.
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But the reality is, if you want to see God show up, if you want to see the extraordinary
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things happen, it's going to be in places where you don't feel qualified,
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where you don't have the influence you think you need to have.
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And when you're like, you're really, you're off balance, you know?
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And I don't know, I've done a little bit of thinking about this too because
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it's just like, well, why does it always have to feel so uncomfortable to see
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something amazing happen?
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And I think it comes down to God receives glory as a result of it being so clear
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that it had nothing to do with me, had nothing to do with you.
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This is his great work that we get to partner in as his human ambassadors here
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on earth for the benefit of the people that we have placed care and compassion for on our hearts.
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And so I absolutely love that.
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So I'm super curious, Dave, in your mind and in your life, what is the thing
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that feels like is next for you?
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Is it a next place, a next region, a next movement?
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What is the thing that you're sort of holding with eager anticipation that you
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can't wait to see what God is going to do?
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So the really exciting thing about where we are right now is we've been sending
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missionaries for the last couple of years to really tough places.
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And they started to get their footing. They've started to get language and culture
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down. They're starting to sow seeds.
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We're just waiting for that first spark of multiplication to start so that we
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can ride the wave of what God's going to do next.
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You know, it's kind of like you put enough missionaries, enough people out there
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doing good things, waiting and listening to God.
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Eventually, we're just going to find where he's moving. We're going to be able
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to lean into that and we're going to be able to see movements happen.
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And we are so excited for something to happen overseas. We actually have one
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story of something happening in Latin America like that.
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And I'll share very briefly. So we always teach discovery Bible studies and
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movements to our team as they go.
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But we decided to do a training for the people that are in Latin America, mobilizing.
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One of these women, Jessica, said, I'm going to put that into practice in my city in Lima, Peru.
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2023, she started one Bible study and 13 women came to faith.
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Wow. That Bible study multiplied and in 2024 from that one group,
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156 people came to faith.
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1,400 were exposed to the Bible last year.
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From the obedience of one person to one group to the start of a movement.
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And we're going to see that on the field as well. We're going to see that in
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Asia among the unreached. We can't wait for that to happen.
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Wow, that is incredible. You know, as you were talking about the excitement,
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like the eagerness, the anticipation I was picturing, which sometimes happens
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to me, I was picturing, and I'm not a surfer, so I don't know why I'm picturing
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surfing kind of metaphors in my mind, but it's a little bit like you've paddled
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out, you've got the board,
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you're in the right spot, and you're just waiting for that wave to come.
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That is your wave and you get to see and experience the goodness that that is.
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I'm picturing that and I'm listening to what you're saying and I'm just thinking
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about how amazing it is to be ready and to be waiting and to have expectation.
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You know that that next perfect wave is coming and you are well positioned for it.
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In that story of Jessica, I just wonder, you know, if you were to tell her in
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23, when she gets this idea in her head that I'm just going to see if anybody
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wants to come and you were to tell her, hey, guess what?
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Six months from now, 12 months from now, 18 months from now.
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There's your entire village is going to hear or this entire region is going
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to hear because of this single, simple act of just inviting a few friends over
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that you're connected to.
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And that's just amazing to me. It's just amazing. That's what God can do.
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And I think that, that surfing analogy is very appropriate, right?
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In that picture that I'm picturing out of my mind, we don't control the water.
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God moves the waves as He wants. They start when He wants, they stop when He wants.
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We are just trying to be in the place where He is moving and holding on in alignment
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with Him for as long as we can to be witnesses to something amazing.
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There we are. There's the Holy Spirit bumps right there. Just got them.
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Yeah, we're not in control. That's the thing.
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Our job is to be ready and to be out there. And so I think it's amazing the
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way that you guys are able to come alongside with an entire people group, entire region.
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And 22 countries of people that want to say yes, but don't quite know how to
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find their feet or get that under them.
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And you're providing surfboards and surf lessons and all of this stuff to get
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people ready to be out there to experience what God wants to do through their
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yes. I think that is just incredible.
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So how often, I'm just curious, Dave, how often are you actually out and about
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traveling, meeting with people?
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Is the majority of this stuff kind of a virtual, you know, we're thankful for
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this technology, even the technology that we have here to, you know, connect.
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But how often are you kind of out in far off places meeting and ministering
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and checking in with people?
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It's changed over time. In the early years when it was just a small team and,
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you know, it really started with Sarah and I, we were out there.
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We were doing different things, visiting different people, you know,
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kind of checking in and all the things that were going on.
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But as we've been able to empower others and helping them be able to take more responsibility,
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then being able to send them to go to all these places, it's been really encouraging
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for us because we get to empower local leaders to do this thing even more so
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or even better than we could.
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As like Jessica, you know, she's one of our local rock stars in Peru.
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And so we sent her to other places to check out and train and do things and
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like that. We've just been blessed with God bringing the right people.
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And that's one of the things that was our prayer from the beginning.
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It's, God, we can do our part.
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You need to bring the right people to help us build this together.
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And that is the staff, the volunteers, the partners.
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Noble has been a great partner from the beginning. And we couldn't have put
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that together. That was God.
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Again, it's the power of yes.
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Without having everything figured out, you know, as a result,
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there's no five-year, ten-year plan that we get to do.
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We can have vision for and have goals and outcomes and things we think God's doing.
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But we can't plan ourselves into the way where we run out of our dependency
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on God doing His work, the waves coming, you know, as it were.
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And I think that that is just fascinating. And so I think here as we get to the end of this,
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and one of the things I feel like our listeners really love are these opportunities
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that we have to kind of experience a practice, if you will, something that you love to do,
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or it could be a new rhythm for you or something you've found has been helpful
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over time that you can kind of give us something to try.
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And as we're all looking to grow in intimacy with the Lord, in obedience to
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Him and experiencing what those yeses look like.
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Totally, totally. So I would say the practice that comes to mind right now is
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that of putting your yes on the table before hearing what it's for.
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You know, that the yes with no questions asked. And it's very simple to do, right?
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I mean, it's just, you can spend a minute with God and saying,
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God, whatever is the next thing that you asked me to do, I've already agreed
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to it. My yes is on the table.
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Now, what do you have for me?
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And most of us that are not familiar with this will say, well,
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God, if I put my yes on the table, what will you tell me to do?
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And that's kind of like getting on one knee in front of your girlfriend and
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saying, hey, if I ask you to marry me, what will you say? And that's a wimpy way out, right?
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This is a bold practice and they could take you on a very, very surprising twist
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and turn of what God might do.
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But by the same token, as we mentioned, God already knows what's coming.
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He knows what he's doing.
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And putting that yes on the table might mean we don't have to struggle and strive all night fishing.
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But God might say, you know what? Instead of what you're thinking,
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cast your nets on the other side and they might be easier than you thought because
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I'm already there. I'm already providing.
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I'm already showing up. So I'd encourage everybody listening to this,
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you know, do you have the boldness?
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So we almost dare, you know, trust God and say, God, my yes is on the table.
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Tell me what I just agreed to. I signed a blank piece of paper,
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write whatever you want in that paper.
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Wow. We'll be right back.
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Music.
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Well, what incredible words that we got to hear from Dave.
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And if you're anything like me, I'm kind of left with my head spinning a little bit.
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Actually, if I'm honest, I'm
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reflecting on my own life and in ways that I have, you know, talk to God,
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fears that I had about giving him my yes and just thinking about even my own
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story of being raised in the church and the opportunities that I had to really
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lean in and actually deciding not to at portions of my life.
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And I think that this is something that is actually crucial for us to do as
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we listen and respond to stories like this is really counting the cost of what
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are some of the things where we can say, absolutely, I gave God my yes and look what he did.
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And maybe there's even moments if you're like me, where I think back to maybe
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opportunities that I could have said yes, but I actually did not.
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And in almost the morning, I don't know what I missed out on.
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And I'm not a big FOMO guy, but I don't know what could have happened as a result.
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So Dave and Reflejo, what an amazing ministry.
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In the podcast notes at the bottom where you click to listen to this episode,
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we've put some notes there where you can learn more about their ministry.
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Also on our Novo page, there are a few stories from our story map that are directly
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from the field from our friends at Reflejo that you can read about there as well.
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And we do hope that you will get involved with them as you feel led.
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One of the things that I loved about what Dave said was kind of this blank check
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idea of just putting your yes on the table and seeing what God does with it.
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What an amazing practice to do as an individual.
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You know, I feel like as we're looking at Cave Table Road, there's a cave application to that.
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Maybe in doing this in a kind of meeting place, prayerful posture of God, I want to give you my yes.
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And see what he does with that yes.
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There's a community aspect to this. There's an opportunity to do this at the
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table where you talk with friends.
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Guys, this is what I feel God's saying to me.
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What does that sound like to you? And you can come around together as a community
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and really develop what those yeses look like.
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And of course, obviously the road application of actually putting your feet
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to the pavement with obedience and following Jesus into that yes in order to see what he does with it.
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I absolutely love that discipline.
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And I'm even thinking about doing that with my kids tonight around the table.
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And as a good father and representing that to them, if they put a yes on the
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table in front of me, what are the things that I am going to supply for them? Is it dessert?
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Is it a chance to go out? Is it an experience that we get to have together?
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I want to reward the yeses that they give me as a father. how much greater would
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our Father in heaven do that for us?
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And so thank you guys so much for being here, for listening to this podcast.
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And yeah, I just wanna bless your yes,
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that the Lord will come alongside you and that the risk that you take in following
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him will be oh so worth it by watching him show up in ways that you did not
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expect by enabling you to see things that you really don't feel qualified to see,
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but it's because the Lord qualifies the unqualified in Jesus' name.
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So as we wrap up this episode, we want you to know that you too are called beyond.
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We believe there is more that God desires for your life than you could possibly ask or imagine.
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Are you eager to cultivate a healthy, fruitful, and holistic walk with God?
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We bless you in Jesus' name to experience spiritually rich times in the cave,
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around the table and on the road.
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We pray and believe for transformation in your personal relationship with Jesus,
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your community with other believers, and in the missional spaces the Spirit
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of God is inviting you into.
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Music.
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Let your hope rise up, let your kingdom come,
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let your will be done, even here or now.
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