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Orang Bunian - The Hidden People · HOLOSKY PODCAST

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle's coming in hot, bringing his orange bunions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The orange bunions, baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, it's pronounced O'Rung, Buna.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, loosely translated orange bunions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was also talking a lot better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to have Chad GBT tell me how to say it, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Around Boonia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably going to forget that and just river it back to orange bunion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Orange bunions the way smoother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It does just roll off the tongue, doesn't it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's already it's a pretty solid Description.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and this is our world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can do whatever we want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's our world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's now that orange bunion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At least we don't make a bunch of noises anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God, we're gonna get 150 bad reviews.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop making mouth noises.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, what, we're not, we're not opposed to bad reviews.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We get them quite often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll never hate us as much as we hate ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's true story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's true story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Our minds are poisoned.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we do need to find Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that guy's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he needs to find me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I mean, there's that, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, back to the Orange Bunion, O'Rang, Buneia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, these encounters and beliefs come from Malaysia Indonesia, Buneia, and parts of Southern Thailand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The phrase literally means hidden people or whistling people, whistling, whistling people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: don't like that no and that's in my opinion that's extremely reminiscent of the fae yeah don't like that especially in reference to the hidden people they are usually described as beautiful dressed in ancient southeast Asian style and nearly identical to humans and appearance one trait that seems to be real to really stick throughout descriptions is that they do
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The filth room, filth, filth room that the little half pipe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I call this a snot trough because my mustache doesn't grow there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now apparently these people don't have that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're every encounter someone that doesn't have that, they're probably an orange bunion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I am.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You should immediately call them out as orange bunions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am not because I have a perfect spot trough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just funnels.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Steve solid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not an orange bunion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am bonnionless.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, their skin also supposedly glows with the inner radiance and their eyes are described as mesmerizing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can entrench you if you look too long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody has ever called me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in entrancing or radiant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I believe this is somebody out there that has.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just because the wrong doesn't mean they didn't say it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's fair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some sources say that most people will never see them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Only the people with the spiritual sight see them, which is usually shamans and healers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People, this is interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: people can often smell them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They say it smells like fried food, whafting through the deepest forest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Locals call this God's cooking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's, if there's one way, a fay-cripted creature is gonna lure my fat as into the forest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be making it smell like fried food.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I go out there and I'm smelling funnel cakes, I'm hunting down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How well?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I ain't mad at that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Final kick this long way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will fall into a fade drop if the bait is fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, or if right chicken.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you need some raising canes up in that bitch or some forget-al-fried fish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have my number.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, it's over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Crying baby in the woods.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm walking away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whistling in the woods.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might whistle back, but I'm not going to chase it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I smell something delicious, yeah, don't come looking for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the orangunya are generally regarded as benevolent, befriending and they are rumored to often assist humans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're also able to, and this is kind of where I feel like the narrative should shift, however it doesn't, they're also able to enter Mary with
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[SPEAKER_02]: According to some tales, men had married a ring boonian women, but later decided to leave the boonian community and return to the families they left behind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: However, when they do this, and they return to human society, they often find that many years have passed, and everyone they knew is either extremely old or dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to cut you off right there again and then people like you've been cutting them off the little little little but I just had the weirdest stage I've heard of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about something like this before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've talked about something somewhere to this before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think it's in regards to the fade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I go into the fade realm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that just to have me all screwed up, I was like holy shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it definitely happens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were beings that that
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[SPEAKER_02]: look human but exist slightly outside normal perception.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were often considered guardians of certain jungle regions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some early Malay oral histories describe the jungle as layered.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have the visible world which all of us see in another world occupying the same space.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Humans through one layer and the orangutan move through another.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This idea predates colonial influence as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It comes from animist and early Islamic era folklore where the forest is considered spiritually inhabited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In the beginning, you had older village stories told by hunters and travelers that people would hear voices and these voices would guide them away from danger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people would be invited deeper into the forest settlements and were never seen again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like his so with the faylor, faylor is extremely similar to this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Regardless, one thing is for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The jungle is viewed by many cultures as not being empty, it belongs to older intelligences.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like the same, the same, a principal applies to forests as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know jungles and forests are vastly different,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is interesting to me how the lore, despite being geographically as different as you can be, has so many similarities, so many parallels that run through it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: all over the world, like our favor here in America versus the favor in, you know, Ireland and Norway and shit like that compared to this essentially, favor in Southeast Asia and stuff like that's crazy how the parallels just line up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think because like if you if you surface level,
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[SPEAKER_02]: the pay in regards to the orange bunion here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you're going to get one that's predominantly benevolent and the other one is malevolent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of people surface level people would view the pay as malevolent because you hear a lot about the change lanes and the
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like once you dig a little deeper into the faylor, it's not all that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not all like wretched.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are people out there that swear by the fay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they help us find stuff and they help take care of stuff and so on and so forth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: think the further you get into it, it's very respect based.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very given take kind of relationship with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you, if you cross them, if you do them wrong, then bad shit's going to happen, which should happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you're going to be as, be as come back, welcome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You get hit with this come back now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's actually ironic that you say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the Lord surrounding the the Arayn Boonin, Boonin, became a way to explain disappearances, strange sounds in the dense for rain forest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also that feeling of being watched in environments where visibility is limited, something we all know, you know, too well, especially in the forest, especially in the forest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, people didn't label them as monsters or dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: However, these beings develop rules set by the locals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You will number one, don't speak arrogantly in the jungle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which is pretty much kind of what you just said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't be an asshole.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Major editions worn against mocking unseen beings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, there's two check marks for us, boasting loudly or insulting the forest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't be an asshole.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't be an asshole.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People believe that the orang boonian observed behavior before revealing themselves, which as you dig around about these beings that lurk inside the forest and jungles, they all seem to have a relatively similar motif.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rule number two, respect the sudden silence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Witnesses often say that when the insects and the birds go quiet at once, stop moving.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The silence was interpreted as something entering the area that doesn't belong to the normal nature.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the stands out when you start looking at these rules is that they aren't really about spirits at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're about respecting the force itself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In traditional jungle communities, survival dependent on reading the environment, hunters had to pay attention to sound, movement, weather, and the behavior of animals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So many of the warnings about the Arraying Bunean also functioned as practical survival advice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't shout, Arraying the Forest, don't wander aimlessly when something feels wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't follow voices that don't make sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those rules protected people from very real dangers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: especially in these dense rain forest environments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But over time, those survival instincts blended with spiritual belief, the forest stop being seen as empty land and started being understood as inhabited territory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And once you accept that something intelligent may live there, the rules start to feel less like superstition and more like etiquette.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not just entering the jungle, you're entering someone else's domain and in regards to the previous statement here about people who hear that sudden silence that we hear about in a lot of cases.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's one thing that I haven't heard before is the advice to stop moving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, me either actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you hear that, that is a pretty constant staple in the missing 411 lore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The sound of the like whenever whenever whatever is being like projected is is taking people or however they they put it out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of times the forest will go
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, anything put out as to what you're supposed to do when that happens, but remaining silent kind of make sense in a predator prey kind of scenario right right and it could just be out of a respect to yeah, no respect to respect me and just shut the fuck up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that could be said for a lot of scenarios.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, rule number three, never follow voices calling your name, which I feel like that's pretty predominant throughout all paranormal lore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't go do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The lore, the lore is just interweaving itself throughout, yeah, cultures and geographical locations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like I said, this, this one appears constantly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: with so many cultures around the world always about the hidden people to the beings that are out in the wilderness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Storage described hearing relatives or friends calling from trees and voices slightly distorted or echoing wrong, which sounds extremely fucking terrifying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here we're hearing someone speak out of or out there and it
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[SPEAKER_02]: quote unquote echoes wrong just gives you the fucking hebe jibis yeah that is weird that's not comfortable i'm trying to lie to imagine it in my head how it would sound wrong i don't i don't know i don't really want to know no me either
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, well, I'm on one hand, and then on the other hand, I'm here for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious, I wonder if it's mechanical or, you know, if the echo doesn't match with a voice, I don't know, I don't know, they just said it if it echo's wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably one of the things you'll know it exactly when you hear it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's also, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that skin, skinwalker or when to go culture?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when they talk, where it will mimic the voice of either you or a relative.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is disgusting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, but they say that following the voice will lead you deeper into the jungle, and sometimes you won't return.
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[SPEAKER_02]: number four, ask permission before entering deep forest spaces places.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Local still speak before cutting trees, they leave small offerings and they also announce their presence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not with the belief that the orangutan are evil, but with the belief that they are territorial.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you break these rules,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like some of the Western stories in Malaysia, they had stories of people that would go missing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they wouldn't be found for days or even weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Search teams would be sent in and find nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which is exactly like the missing 401 situations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they in some cases, they would go back through, places that they've already checked and find people there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: which is identical to 401.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What makes these stories particularly unsettling is how often they fall the same structure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone enters the forest alone, they become disoriented, then something changes in the environment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Witnesses frequently describe the jungle going unnaturally quiet, though insects, no birds, no movement in the canopy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For people familiar with the rainforest ecosystems, that kind of sounds is immediately alarming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Normally, the jungle is deafening with sound.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When it suddenly stops, it means something has disrupted the natural order and a rang boonie in the lower that silence isn't just a warning, it means you've been noticed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people describe hearing footsteps behind them that stop whenever they turn around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Others talk about feeling surrounded by presences, just outside their field of vision and that's usually the moment when the voice is start.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the missing people are found after some time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: After the searchers come in, they'll search an area.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, so they, they're sometimes not every time they're found in a place that's already been searched.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Usually when they are found, they are weak and dazed, but they are alive and well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The rest of yours would swear that they had checked that exact area over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in that area, there were no signs of life, no footprints, literally nothing to suggest that a person is there or was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I wonder if there is, like an exact North American parallel to this because I've been in a scenario where I've been out in the middle of the, not in the middle of the forest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was in a familiar forest that I've been in many times before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had a scenario like that happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I talked about it here on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I was, I know I was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I walked into the woods on one side of this dirt road.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's dirt, a four wheeler path.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Walked in there, the only way to get on the other side is to cross the path again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It splits the forest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get out there, I lose my sense of direction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember if everything went quiet or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels familiar like like that's what happened, but I don't know if it's just because we've been talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, but it gets to the point where I get in mild panic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I know that I don't know where I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think to myself, I'm just going to, if I had west long enough, I'll hit the farm, I'll hit the road, or I'll hit the highway, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I'm moving, I'm starting to get about my bearings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am on the opposite side of the road that I had went into the forest on, which has been never remembering to my, obviously passing the path because at that point, I'm panicking, the one thing that I'm looking for is is the dirt road.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So somehow I managed to get on the other side of that without paying attention.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that makes you relatively uncomfortable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when when you're in a scenario like that and the panic kicks in, it sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a terrible feeling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially some more familiar because you're like confident about where you are and you're kind of chillin and then everything starts to like, this doesn't look familiar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This doesn't look familiar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This doesn't look familiar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... typically when the person is questioned they would always say the same thing they were not alone and that they were actually in a village remembering that a group of people had been taken care of them in this place they ate some of the best food and had the most comfortable shelter so it sounds like wherever they were at is a relatively legit place
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[SPEAKER_02]: everyone hearing the story from the abductee or lost person, it would baffle the searchers because as they are looking around there is zero evidence of a village, no huts, no people, no fire, literally nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in the areas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're just I would imagine in most cases, they're probably convinced that this person is just out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're dehydrated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're they're stresses through the roof.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's altering, you know, and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just going to cram anything they can to explain this away onto situation and move move along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I keep saying the parallels, but it's
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[SPEAKER_00]: the exact exactly the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you hear stories of that in missing form when people will maybe not necessarily find a village or something, but they'll see people and try to interact with people that either do not acknowledge them, will interact with them, but nobody else claims to have been in the same spot at the same time, like it's very, very dissimilarity's a crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: another slightly creepy thing about the orange bunion is that if they are to fall in love with you, sometimes they are unwilling to let you go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, possessive lovers, slightly, slightly so, according to some sources,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know it's kind of contradicting with some other information.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I presented earlier, however, as you're staying in their world, you are actually what could be considered a fading shadow in our world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're essentially your existence will slowly fade away until by all accounts you never existed in our world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it would be hard to turn away from beings that are rumored to have this ethereal imminence, you know, this skin as smooth as silk and eyes as brilliant as the stars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Furthermore, a world that may match ours perfectly, almost like almost like it's the perfect upside down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything there is in harmony.
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[SPEAKER_02]: with everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And smells like delicious food.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And smells like delicious food.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently they constantly appear to those in a tight spot and they usually offer help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I read one story where a child was wandering around the woods and stumbled into a clearing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In this clearing was a gathering of the Arang bu Nian.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The child was captivated by them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She watched as they moved and danced.
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[SPEAKER_02]: After it was over, the orangutan just scattered, which left the young child with an impression that she had just witnessed a miracle, and it's that's slightly reminiscent to the story we covered, a while back, Steve, where
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I was doing a series on like cloaked entities and if you remember there was that one where the park ranger was watching this kid play with his truck with his family and that this cloaked entity thing basically took the kid and he freaked out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I do remember that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then as he went looking for them, he went into a clearing and he saw all these things
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I make sure wonder if it's the same entity just interpreted differently across cultures.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very well could be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, think about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why would there be this like liminal space in one specific region of the world and not others?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: make sense because if it's if there's an overlapping world it should be in all encompassing overlapping world I would imagine it just maybe maybe certain areas the veil is slightly thinner where it's easier to puncture than other you know other spots yeah or again it could be it could be a cultural or geographical um
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[SPEAKER_00]: gap, you know, these things could be happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just getting explained a little bit differently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So people aren't necessarily equating the two as being, or three or four or five as being similar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and the pieces together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what your story's how going to drive to the corners off of another encounter of an angler of an angler who had a run in with them
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[SPEAKER_02]: one that allowed him to communicate with creatures and I'm assuming by creatures is, you know, assuming the animals of the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: However, he was able to take this gift and began life as a healer, discovering information to fix illness and sicknesses that had tormented his little
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[SPEAKER_02]: animals and everything else and they're helped.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're able to help him step through probably plants and medicinal stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mount O for O for your known locally as ununly dang.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Supposedly houses in one of their grain is put palaces.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Basically a massive kingdom
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[SPEAKER_02]: where it like it legitimately holds their royalty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently, they have the ability to manipulate time as well, slowing it in their domains.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They even have the capability of reverse aging, even in objects, and they can move between temporal realms.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I read a description where it was essentially like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: if they like say they let Steve borrow this bowl like here dude you can take this ball home with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not even worrying about like you fucking it up or or it being you so much that it wears down because they would have the ability to take it back and then just reverse agent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, it's original quality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's immediately what I thought like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like something rusty, as soon as it goes back to them, like it just morphs itself back to before it was new.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they can, they can reverse agent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or a tree, you know, a tree, giant oak tree, just getting turned into a little sapling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like reversing, linear time doesn't exist to them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can also, they can also communicate with animals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: control weather patterns, which is a huge one in the missing 401 shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, storm noise and I'm through.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they possess encyclopedic knowledge of medicinal plants.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Traditional healers in the area will often attribute their potent remedies to the orang boonian and their teachings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These can be passed down through dreams or chancing counters with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They also possess the ability to become invisible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have been able to fade from view, even when speaking with somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they could be talking to you, and then as they're talking to you, they just fade out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you can still hear them, they're still talking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just invisible now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're overpowered is what they are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, they're definitely OP.
35:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to you're going to let them turn it turn invisible let them talk to animals let them reverse they have time manipulation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can take you to an an astral plane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, I don't know, you fall in love with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're, they fall in love with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're never going anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to disappear you from existence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is apparently apparently that that ability, the being able to talk to you and also turn and visible at the same time, is why they are called the whistling people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're talking and they disappear and then they just like they just vanish and they're whistling at you from other places like I think it's just the concept of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I don't really understand it, but the just I guess the the ability to be invisible and still communicate with you is why I guess they still speak to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can they're speaking like you and me are right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just they decided to turn invisible for whatever fucking reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because they can and they're overpowered.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would do it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hell yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a flex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just turn invisible, like what are you going to do with that?
36:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is, here's another slight turn on the benevolent aspect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently, there's a phenomenon over there where babies go missing, which is reminiscent of the Faye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even have to say it.
36:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to, but I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Medical professionals in Malaysia have supposedly, there are conflict and reports of this, but supposedly documented cases where pregnant women, which is confirmed through ultrasound, but they never, they deliver only a placenta.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a doctor, this is all, supposedly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Rosanna Zam Zam from the hospital University.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something Malaysia reported treating a 43-year-old patient who showed clear ultrasound images of a four-month pregnancy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Days before her due day, new scans revealed an empty non-pregnant uterus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in some maleavillages, elders tell of a young woman who began dreaming of a man dressed in pale green robes during her pregnancy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He never spoke loudly, he simply watched her from the edge of the forest clearing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At first, she thought it was anxiety about motherhood, but the dreams became vivid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She described hearing music with no instruments and seeing lanterns floating
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[SPEAKER_02]: She said she stood in a long, hall filled with people she could not clearly see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The green robe figure placed a hand on her stomach and told her, the child walks between our worlds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: After that dream, the woman reportedly woke feeling calm, almost attached, weeks later she went into labor unexpectedly, and it was early, according to the story, only the
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[SPEAKER_02]: The village midwife claimed that the child had been invited away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one accused spirits of violence instead, Elder said the child had been chosen to live among the orangutan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Raising a hidden village were time move differently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The woman later said she continued a dream of a child playing them among the tall grass, always just out of reach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In older jungle communities,
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[SPEAKER_02]: there are tales of women who unknowingly enter agreements during dreams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One story tells of a hunter's wife who repeatedly dreamed of a feast held deep in the forest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said the people there welcomed her like family, though she couldn't see their faces clearly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: During one dream a figure placed a carved, wooden amulet in her hands and told her, a child will come through you, but not stay with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Months later, when she became pregnant, Elders warned her not to wander into the forest alone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They believe she has been, she had been spiritually patrolled to the Benean.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As the pregnancy progressed, she reportedly felt movement in her womb.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would suddenly stop whenever she entered certain areas of the jungle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When labor came, the child was said to vanish without explanation.
39:59
[SPEAKER_02]: they called it the fulfillment of a promise made in dreams which is like the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Making deals and it's like that.
40:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And also like there's like a I feel like there's like a on like a trickery aspect to that as well, like making a whether when they when that when I call that it was a fucking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, unremembered promise or whatever the jury is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is bizarre, unknowingly inner agreements during dreams.
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you unknowingly enter an agreement?
40:40
[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't sound like an agreement to me.
40:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's fucking weird.
40:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:45
[SPEAKER_00]: My brain goes in two different ways.
40:46
[SPEAKER_00]: One, one, all the three different ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One is did did some of this lower start as maybe like a grief coping mechanism for people that were losing children before they were born.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then again, like Kyle pointed out like the whole fast back of this whole scenario.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, they said, you said early on, they made children disappear.
41:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Children vanish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this, could this be an offset of that, where they just like literally make them vanish in the womb?
41:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what they're in seeing what they're doing in the womb.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're vanishing in the womb, because the women get ultra-sounded today, they have a child in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then when they deliver, it's just a placenta with that inside.
41:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It also, and I know we've made the comparison between Faye and Ali and Laura before, it also kind of parallel subduction, Laura.
41:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a little bit where, you know, we talked about in the last episode, Peter's mom saying she's been a baby factory for the aliens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These be using whatever this entity is using women as surrogates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they spun the lore like, hey, you went into an agreement in your dream.
42:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So now we're going to take your baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, you know, think about it like this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying this is factual, but here's something for everybody to chew them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say they started noticing these women getting pregnant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They know there's a baby in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's showing signs of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then she delivers only a placenta.
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[SPEAKER_02]: what better coping mechanism to deal with fear than to back story lore about all there's these magical people in the woods you know and they they're not stealing our children there they're inviting them to come live in a a better place yep it's lot easier to kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: process that grief as opposed to like losing a child where it is a child that's gone some someplace better.
43:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, there's a lot of possibilities there either way it's fucking creepy that they're yanking kids.
43:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that's not that's not very benevolent to me, but now I can understand if maybe the kid was going to pass during labor or something like that,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You might be able to sell me on that, but regardless, it's questionable, but in the Malay believe system, and it's not something I'd ever considered before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about a little bit on the night shift, but pregnancy is considered an extremely liminal state, meaning the mother and child exists between worlds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Traditional beliefs often say pregnant women attract spirits or hidden beings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: four spirits make claim children they consider special or connected.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's a big thing over there, though, because you have a lot of reports that run fairly similar to each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They even get called in on radio style, malay, paranormal interviews.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the common tropes are dreaming of a handsome man in white or a
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[SPEAKER_02]: a quiet force figure during pregnancy, feeling a hand touched their stomach, being told the child was special or not, not fully theirs, a quote here after recurring dreams that pregnancy ended suddenly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The elders said the orang boonian had taken the child.
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[SPEAKER_02]: During pregnancy, they dream of a hidden village and after losing the pregnancy, they continued dreaming of a child growing older.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can also describe hearing children laugh in the forest years later, and sensing a presence that feels similar, or feels familiar, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's just as crazy though, is that in the southeast Asian culture,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a known and okay thing for family members to have married into the hidden world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even more so if they have some new abilities or knowledge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in 2004, alternative medicine practitioner Madam Shan claimed he married a print
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[SPEAKER_02]: Adam, she married a prince of the orang boonian and her friends actually witnessed her disappearance for four hours during a mountain trek.
45:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Only to later return, and since she had seven children through her relationship with the prince, I would suggest that time moved extremely, I must have moved faster in that encounter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She was gone for four hours,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which is so weird that we had mentioned that alien abduction on the last episode that had similar, yeah, time distortion, yeah, and most cases were children are brought into the world, they possess abilities from both sides, so essentially these kids, so I guess it would be if.
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[SPEAKER_02]: a human and one of the orang boonian words you marry and have children, those children would draw something from each side and I put down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So basically, they get cool shit from the orang boonian like invisibility and most likely they get diabetes from us.
47:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're living in a place that smells like fried food.
47:09
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, now that I'm good.
47:12
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
47:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not looking good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, in most cases, these people will typically become very powerful shamans or healers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It still holds a modern time as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently people who are in construction will often report things going missing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Equipment moved, or even voices telling them to stay away
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[SPEAKER_02]: It said, now they hire the Beauma to negotiate with the local Arayn Boonian before breaking ground.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Parents even warn their children to behave and be polite while in the forest for safety and to avoid offending the invisible inhabitants.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll find that ideas repeated over and over again in Southeast Asian folklore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The concept of the forest contains multiple overlapping realities.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Human world is only one of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In Malay cosmology, the jungle isn't simply wilderness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a threshold, a place where the boundaries between worlds stand out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why so many encounters with the O'Rang Boonean happen in places that already feel strange to humans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Deep rainforest, mountain slopes, caves, waterfalls, and old growth jungle that has never been cleared.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These locations are believed to act almost like doorways between layers of existence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some elders describe it as walking past an entire village without realizing it's there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The buildings, the people, even the fires could exist only a few steps away, but invisible because they belong to another layer of reality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Others describe it like two radio frequencies occupying the same space.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Humans normally tune into one channel while the orangutan move through another.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Occasionally, something interferes with the signal, when that happens, people report brief glimpses of the hidden world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Movement trees, voices speaking just out of sight, or in touch entire settlements that disappear when approached.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That idea alone explains a lot of the stranger elements at the O'Rain Boonean encounters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The missing villages, the sudden disappearances, the feeling of being surrounded by something you can't quite see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because according to the belief, the hidden world isn't somewhere far away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's already here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that part you were talking about where they stop construction because of sacred trees and stuff hundred percent reminds me of the shit they do in Iceland with the old folk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where they will delay, they'll stop the reroute roads because they think that the whole do folk hidden people or elves live in certain giant boulders and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In 2015, there was a case involving a 70 ton boulder believed to be an elf church that was completely moved out of the way for this road construction because they didn't want to destroy it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Elf Church.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's fucking nuts of they thought it was an Elf Church.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, rad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not trying to make fun of it or anything.
50:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You're called bullshit.
50:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never realized that the Elf had church.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of an interesting That is an arrest situation there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the look more into that later.
50:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, for Elf, what Elf religion there is is probably cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
51:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Doing all sorts of cool shit is pricey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's basically what I had on the orange bunion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to say that it cracks me.
51:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But uh, and there's other cases out there, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have one more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could read another.
51:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So supposedly in 2016, a group of hikers and Malaysia entered a section of forest near Gunang Pulali.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know that the trail itself wasn't considered particularly dangerous in the group had navigated a little before, but about an hour
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[SPEAKER_02]: The rest of the hikers search this surrounding area, shouting their names and shaking the path, couldn't find nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No broken branches, no signs of struggle, no footprints leaving the trail.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rescue teams were eventually called in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The search lasted nearly two days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When the two missing hikers were finally found, they were sitting only a few hundred meters from the trail they originally disappeared from.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, confused rescuers was that the area had already been searched multiple times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: According to the hikes of the hikers, they had been walking the entire time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They believed they had only been gone for about 20 minutes, but they also said something else that was strange.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They claimed they kept hearing people walking ahead of them in the trees.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not animals, people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every time they tried to fall the sound, it moved further away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you could find tons of stories like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Steve and I have also talked about American stories that are somewhere that remember the guy went hiking and I think it was his wife was looking for him and he's like, I never left the trail.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been here the whole time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never heard you yell in front of me or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, the parallels are crazy.
53:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's nuts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's exactly the same thing happening just on a different side of the planet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, understood by a different demographic of people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have far more respect for that old world stuff than like the Western civilization does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that also probably plays a role in the belief system around each of the parties there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
53:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because we just don't take, we don't take that stuff as serious as other cultures do anymore.
53:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's exactly to us.
54:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a mystery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for a missing 4011, there's no lore behind it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no entity or any kind of explanation behind it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a class A mystery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People go into the forest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They disappear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're found where it's searched.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No explanation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where the orang banean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a whole web of lore and years of history that's been created and spun not I mean I'm not even creating maybe it was there to begin with and that that lends explanations to these happenings.
54:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's, I think that's why it's so jarring, seeing the parallels between things that happen here in the United States and things that happen like missing 401 for example, yeah we do have things that have a lot of lore and culture like Native American win to go and stuff like that, but for for the missing one want 401 and specific.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no lower behind it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is just a mystery in period the end.
55:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And I still think that has everything to do with what we're talking about just a second ago, where because I feel like the Malaysian people probably closer with resemble Native American people, because Native American people were just like the Malaysian people has this strong,
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[SPEAKER_02]: sense of connection with the the forest and the environment and everything around that whereas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you still have that like you still have that native American culture that is there whereas the rest of the Western world has fucking iPhones and tablets and chips, you know.
55:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it boils right back down to respect.
55:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, absolutely.
55:52
[SPEAKER_00]: You know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's where it all delves from the level of respect that you have for the forest and the earth and shit.
56:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that is what differentiates.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree, and you could argue that that could be why the Native Americans and the Malaysian people
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[SPEAKER_02]: in the knowledge of these things because they respected it, yeah, whereas a lot of the modern world could give a fuck less.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
56:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, hey, here's my fucking jumbo styrofoam cup, bitch.
56:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Go out the window.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
56:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, I hear I'm going to drop a fucking couch off his bridge into the creek.
56:45
[SPEAKER_00]: There's people that have never taken a walk through the woods.
56:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's people that think about that and is like, nah, I'm good.
56:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's wild wild.
56:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a fucking wild.
57:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, fuckers, I ain't seeing a cow in real life.
57:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or corn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's our fields.
57:09
[SPEAKER_00]: That's our fields here.
57:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're not talking about corn in the band.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're legit, but yeah.
57:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Jonathan Davis.
57:20
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to come on the show and talk about weird shit, yeah, would that be a fucking dream come true.
57:24
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be you get Jonathan Davis or Fred Ders.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I already tried a message in Fred Ders 1000 ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No luck.
57:34
[SPEAKER_02]: No, because he was supposed to be starting a podcast with Philly Corgan.
57:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, about UFOs and shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he say no or just no response?
57:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he just has all things, all communication shut off.
57:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not a no.
57:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
57:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even officially get the sending thing because it just says no.
57:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
57:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not a no from Fred.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 100% yeah.
57:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
57:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
57:59
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
58:00
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not out the woods yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, pun intended.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe fucking rad to be able to sit down.
58:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He's one of those guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's two dudes that have seen some shit get fieldy on Yeah, yeah, he's a place of six-slat base.
58:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just looking up at the ceiling the whole time.
58:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah Oh shit.
58:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a good one, Kyle.
58:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wouldn't bet the parent like I love lore the parallels other lore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that are on opposite sides of the damn planet.
58:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Like these things geographically and historically shouldn't be as similar to one another as they are outside of two things happening.
58:53
[SPEAKER_00]: One, there was some form of communication between these people thousands of miles away from one another or two,
59:08
[SPEAKER_00]: and people are just dealing with it the best way that they can.
59:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's probably the most logical explanation.
59:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Or there's some kind of weird group consciousness thing.
59:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's true.
59:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That could be a possibility.
59:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, so there's three.
59:23
[SPEAKER_00]: But I love that ship, bro.
59:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's cool, man.
59:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You get into that and it just starts like, it's way too weird that there's so many similarities.
59:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Bingo.
59:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not it's not coincidence to this point.
59:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but no, hell yeah, banger We'll haul a cold
59:42
[SPEAKER_00]: That'll do it for this this week's episode of cool shit with the cool dudes.
59:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah, that's the new podcast thing.
59:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, cool shit with the cool dudes.
59:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're officially changing it after today's first time.
59:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, cool shit with cool dudes.
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1:00:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Keep the old hour of them popping because we don't know how.
1:00:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And hope everybody has a good week, everybody stay safe out there, stay weird, and if you're going to make an orange bun you fall in love with you, just be aware of the risks that involve that are involved with it.
1:00:26
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