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26. Communicating with the DEAD: Ouija Boards and the Estes Method · Amigos, Afraid!

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Happy Thursday. Happy Thursday, guys.
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Hello. Hey, it's Thursday.
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It's Thursday my dudes, and you guys are listening to the Daily
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BJ. I'm Brian.
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I'm. Jerry.
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And this is the daily JB. Good morning, good day, good
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afternoon. Good evening.
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Good. Morning.
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I wonder if you guys are all back at work because there was a
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few of y'all that are still off. Jerry's still off.
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I'm technically still off, but I am more on than off.
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I went back and it has been so, so so tiring.
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So tiring. I can't wait to not feel that.
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Me neither, It's about to complete a week.
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We have some fun, exciting plans this weekend.
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Yes, we do get to celebrate the love of your life.
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Miss Other to say on her beep birthday.
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I will not say a number that is not respectful.
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She's like so young. It's so beautiful.
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I'm, I'm just grateful. I'm grateful that's.
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What you That's what you deserve.
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I'm. So young and so and so
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beautiful. That's me.
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That's me. Yeah.
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I'm not looking forward to it because you at least have a week
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under your belt. You know, it's like you're
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you're getting that routine back.
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I don't have anything yet, mine is still very up in the air.
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I already requested next Monday off Fucking off.
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I've been back for five days. Is it a holiday?
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Next month? No it's not, but what what the T
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is? My Disneyland pass expires so
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I'm going to Disneyland for the last day it can go.
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You just let them know where to find you, what day.
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Guys, Monday I'm going to be at Disneyland.
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Come find me. Shoot.
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Me a text message, we can take a picture in front of the.
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The castle buy him a drink. Buy me a drink, I'll give you a
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kiss on the cheek or something. There you go.
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All it takes is a drink, folks. Yeah, honestly so excited for
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this weekend. Going to see so many friends.
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We're going to be costumed up. What kind of costumed up.
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We're going to be giving Medieval Times.
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Medieval time. That's not medieval, that's
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French a the French French. Time is relative.
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Time happens at the same. There is no past present in our
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future. Time is just always now.
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I am the future. Or there is no time.
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If I think about how small we are in the world, I get scared.
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I honestly, I know what you mean.
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Or you're just like, wow, we're like, we're like insignificant.
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But it's pretty sick that like, you know, you were chosen.
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You were a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a
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fraction of a fraction of. I don't know how.
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Of everything that exists. Everything that but you're here
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though, you know. Not even the world, the
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universe. The universe and the universe
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itself is good. Jillian times mass.
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I know we are so. And life is so short and.
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Life is so short, so short. That people die and they come
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back. In certain non proven, non
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scientifically proven events technically right?
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I believe in ghosts, if that's what you're saying.
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I believe in ghosts. Just because it's not
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scientifically proven doesn't mean that shit isn't real.
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True because who are the? Who are the scientists?
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Huh, I've never seen one. Have you ever met a scientist?
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I've only met a chemist. That's more than.
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That's more than one more than I know.
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No, technically, I know. I know that you've met a
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chemist. Yeah, I've met a chemist.
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You play Fortnite with a chemist?
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Yeah. Yeah, and I've met him on
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multiple occasions. Yeah, he's pretty cool.
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Yeah, well, he's he's the exception.
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He's cool, but other scientists anyways we should.
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Ask him if he believes believes in ghosts.
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He really should. Guys, we are coming back at you
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with the the paranormal. We we've been gone too long.
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We're back. We're tapping into our roots of
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being into the occult. The Spooky Bros the.
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Spooky Bros Spooky boys the Spooky.
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Boys, we're at this point, we're like deals because like, no,
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we're not even boys, We're old man.
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So we got to be spooky deals, you know?
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Say that I am the last of the millennials to turn 30.
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I was watching a whole TikTok about that. 96 is the last year
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for millennials and once we turn 30, that's it.
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Millennials are all 30 and up. You know what's crazy?
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When I would be like, I would be like a teenager and I'd be like
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01990 like you're next. Like you're they're into the 30s
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and now it's like 6 years later. Yep, and Jerry's not far, I
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mean. I can see the finish line.
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You're 28, you're going to be 28.
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You're barely going to be 20, friend.
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I feel like a cradle robber as just being your friend.
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Many people do. I'm gonna start surrounding
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myself amongst all Wilder people to just feel young.
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I mean, I kind of already have but.
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What are you trying to say? You don't want to hang out
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anymore? I mean, my knees don't crack
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that much. Don't.
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That's that's below the belt. Please.
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This is supposed to be a fun time.
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Take your vitamins, folks. Take your vitamins.
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Stretch. Aw fuck, I do that.
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A stretch. You got to stretch, guys.
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I do have to stretch. Guys, my friend Jesse, he goes
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on TikTok live almost every morning and he just does a
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little stretch while we're watching goals, No.
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And it looks painful. He's like a very bit and he's
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there like struggling to do these stretches.
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There's no hope for us. We're we're, we're done for.
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We're too far gone at this point.
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Then we just eat the banana bread.
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So that's what I'm going. To do right now.
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Fucking banana. Bread.
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Oh my God. Hell yeah.
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Anyways, you know what else is? Hell Yeah.
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What Ghosts. Ghosts.
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OK, I stayed previously before we took a wild detour.
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We are going to come back at you with a lot of supernatural ghost
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stories. We are working on some things
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for you guys to bring you some ghost stories from our friends
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that is finally in the works. I know we've been talking about
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it all the time. We finally had a set of friends
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who said we've got a ghost story for you and it's coming.
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Yeah. But until then, we're we did a
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little research. We didn't this week.
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I guess we didn't. I am very excited to present
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this, but do you want to flip a coin?
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And you want to ask the ghosts on who's going to go first?
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No simple coin. OK, we'll flip a coin.
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I don't want to deal with the ghosts.
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I already had that weird experience the whole.
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Don't worry, we'll get to that. All right.
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What do you want? I want head.
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All right, Hey Siri, flip a coin, she said.
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Uh huh. It's heads.
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Oh, I go first. Fuck you guys, it is.
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Australian Siri too, so. Fuck, how many of you are
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familiar with the Ouija board? The Luigi board?
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No, no, no, no, not the Luigi board.
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The Oui oui, back to the French. The Ouija.
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Board the what? The what at that point?
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So Luigi board. I'm scared of it.
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Are you scared of it? I'm.
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Pretty terrified of it, yeah. What if I told you like?
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You have one right now. No, no, that it wasn't.
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That's scary to begin with, Yeah.
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Yeah, Yeah. OK.
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I mean, I can, You know what, what's the only thing that I
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like know of it, you can go to like a Walmart or a Target or a
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gas store to buy it. Hasbro sells it.
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There you go, Hasbro. That is in a let me, let me tell
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you a little bit of history about the Ouija board and where
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it's stems. From Tell me more, Tell me more.
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So the Ouija board was first introduced to customers in 1890
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by the Kennard Novelty Company, 1st called the Wonderful Talking
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Board, the cardboard slab had a very similar layout to what we
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are familiar with today. It featured letters sprawled
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across the board along with the numbers and the words yes, no
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and goodbye. It also came with the triangular
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pointer, which appeared to move on its own across the board to
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spell out messages from the beyond.
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National Geographic states that in the past 130 years, it has
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transformed from a quirky pastime into a symbol of
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supernatural mystery, evolving into both a cultural icon and a
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source of fascination. Where did the idea for the tool
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come from? Spirit boards can be traced back
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to the modern spiritualist movement of the 1840s.
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According to the BBCUK, modern spiritualism dates back to 1848
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when the Fox Sisters of Hydesville, New York produced
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knocking sounds that were alleged to be spirit messages
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from beyond the grave. Maggie and Katie Fox had moved
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into their new home with their family in New York.
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Not long after settling in, the family began hearing mysterious
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rapping noises that seemed unexplainable at the time.
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They soon convinced themselves that it must be some sort of
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entity and began a clap and snap to elicit a response.
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It ultimately did. Oh fuck.
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Soon a simple code of communication was set up between
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the Fox sisters and the Invisible Spirit who apparently
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recited in their home. With time, Maggie and Kate
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learned the spirit who made these rapping noises was that of
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a murdered peddler whose remains were buried in the cellar of the
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home. Hell no.
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The sisters became overnight celebrities and caused an
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unprecedented explosion in the existence of the supernatural.
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The the belief of the supernatural, that is.
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While tests carried out in 1851 that debunked their theories,
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the movement continued to gain momentum.
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In 1888, the sisters did finally reveal that they faked the whole
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thing. However, Maggie later recounted
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the confession and returned to the promotion of spiritualism.
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They fully just said, oh, we hear these noises, we're going
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to try and mimic them back. And allegedly that they got a
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response. Allegedly, allegedly because
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they said we were just kidding. And then 180.
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No, no, it was true. That confession, it was fake.
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They put, they put us up to it. That's.
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Crazy. Also, what do you think a
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rapping sound is like? They start rapping.
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That's what I figured. Like, there's no way they're
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wrapping in the 1840s. Like, they're wrapping sound
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like it was like a crumple of paper.
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Like, I'm thinking it's like a scratch on a wall.
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OK. What if they had rats?
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Maybe. Maybe.
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Yeah. And they would be like, screwing
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through the walls and stuff. And then you're doing a little
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snap, snap, click, click, like near the area.
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What are you going to do, scare the rat?
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Exactly. It's going to keep doing it.
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Dang. Spiritualism took off due to the
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belief that it was possible to communicate with loved ones who
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had passed. Spiritualism became fashionable.
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Social events began to OU in which people would gather and
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attempt to speak with the dead. These gatherings would feature
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psychic mediums, seances, tarot card readings, along with these
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talking boards. In this era, the Ouija board was
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seen with whimsy and hopefulness, a tool that could
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bring your loved ones back for a casual conversation.
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Spiritualism saw a major spike in popularity after events of
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mass death such as World War One and the 1918 flu Endemic in the
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1920's, the board was synonymous with romance as it was used as a
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fun dating tool where couples would use it as an excuse to sit
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close to one another. This act is referenced in a
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painting by Norman Rockwell featured on an issue of Saturday
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Evening Post. So what changed?
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The Satanic Panic began to take hold of American Society and the
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public opinion of the board took a drastic turn by the late
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1960's. The exact moment the tides
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turned against the Ouija board was with the release of The
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Exorcist in 1973. That'll do it.
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Everything goes back to The Exorcist.
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It does. What did we talk about?
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Like so many episodes back? Probably one of the first I had.
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Was it? Yeah, 'cause I think like.
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Possession. I think possession 'cause.
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I think we talked about possession.
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I had talked about Annabelle and I think you talked about the the
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steps of yeah. Oh, and the steps of possession.
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Yes. Everything goes back to The
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Exorcist, which is crazy. The film features a scene in
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which a child is playing with a board and ends up possessed by a
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demon. Until now, the Ouija board
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continues to be synonymous with the occult, with a very few
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people brave enough to give it a try.
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They had a Ouija board in the Queen Mary.
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Yes, they did in. The fucking closet.
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We wanted nothing to do with it. Nope.
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We, we did our best. I think we, we were brave enough
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to get to the entrance of the closet and we put in the AMF
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reader inside. But in like, in terms of like
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touching it or like playing with it like.
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Now, have you been around a Ouija board?
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Like do you know anyone who has one?
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I don't know anyone who has one. I mean, I want to say that no,
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dude, I don't think, I don't think I've ever been in front of
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one or like a round one. That's surprising because there
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is so many Ouija boards just out and about in people's homes and
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their closets buried somewhere in their garage, passed down
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from family to family. Because the game itself, the
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board game, was super popular before The Exorcist in 1967.
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The Ouija board outsold the Monopoly.
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They sold more copies of the Ouija board than they did
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Monopoly in that Monopoly. Man, guess how many of these
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old. Over a billion. 2 million, Dang
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it, 2 million copies. I was going to.
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Which is why they are so easily attainable in any scary movie
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you've seen. They're like, we got one in the
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garage. We have like 500.
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Yeah, girl, go get the Ouija board.
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We're going to we're going to do a seance tonight.
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That I have. Like I've seen them at Toys-R-Us
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when I was growing up. I've seen them at Target, I've
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seen them at Walmart. I have seen them in stores and
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like growing up, you're like, why are they here?
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Like how? How are they selling this?
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Because it used to be a fun party game.
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It's. Just a Hasbro game board.
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That's fucking crazy, I didn't know that.
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Right I my mind was a little blown like people use this as a
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fun little ha ha like let's talk to the dead but then it takes 1
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scene of a child getting possessed that people are like
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fuck this. And I think, and I think it's
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just like that. I mean, not saying it's, it's
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not real, not saying that I'm sure there was like maybe some
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specific because it's inspired by true events, right?
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I think we we. The movie Yes, The Exorcist is
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allegedly inspired by. Whether that whether that scene
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happened with the boy or not, with the board getting possessed
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and stuff, I mean, it's still like, in a way it's kind of like
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a social construct where it's just like people are giving it
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meaning and therefore the connotation behind it now is
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negative. Yeah, the popular opinion is
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like, this is the gateway to hell, yeah.
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Now, can many things be portals? Yes.
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We've, we've just like we've determined that throughout the
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Queen Mary through the research we've done, a lot of things can
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be portals. So can one of these be a portal?
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Absolutely, yeah. But I think it's the energy you
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put into. It it took one specific incident
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to just sour the taste for everyone.
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Yeah, but also a hugely popular film.
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Yeah. People are going to then just
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relate that scene too. Oh my God, that's the item we
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have in a freaking tub in the garage.
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Don't touch it. Yeah.
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Is it a is it a cult classic or The Exorcist is like or a cult
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classic? I had to.
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I was like how have you not seen this?
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Movie I had to I've seen the movie many times but yeah
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spinning and I've seen scary movies too the first time I
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watched it yeah that freaked me out like I just wasn't for me
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I'm like Nah, I'm. Good I I should rewatch it?
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I think I've seen it once. I think I watched it for a film
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class so I watched it at like 2 times speed because I did not
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want to sit there and watch movies for homework.
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As easy as that sounds. When they need you to like
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freaking analyze everything. I'm like when anything becomes
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no, I'm not interested anymore. I, I took, well, not to like go
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on a tangent, but I took a, a, a cinema class and we would watch
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movies and stuff. We would like not show up half
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of the time. But when we were in there, I was
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like, wow, this is fun. And then you remember it's an
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assignment. And then there's like follow up
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work. You're like, yeah, fuck that.
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Yeah, not for me. I liked it, it made me
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appreciate movies a lot more which is why I sadly enough I
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don't go to the movies that often.
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Still have my AMC Stubs, but I just don't see movies, but I
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love watching them. Like when I'm there, I'm like,
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Oh my God, I'm different now because I saw this movie.
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Like there's there's a new POV that just exists in my in my
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being now because I witnessed this.
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Yeah. OK, so let's talk let's talk
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about the Ouija board. How does it work?
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So. Thank you.
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I want to know. You have that little triangle
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thing that has like a little eye hole that tells you what letter
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you're supposed to spell out. OK, so you put your two fingers.
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OK, two fingers and two fingers on this little triangular piece
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looks kind of like a rocket ship.
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OK, not those two fingers. Those two fingers.
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Yes. And you lightly place your
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fingers and you ask questions, OK.
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And the theory goes that the things slide to reveal letters
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to answer the questions that you are asking the spirits.
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It's seen as a way to communicate, which I've heard
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there are many ways to communicate with the spirit,
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that being one of them. But then there's this whole like
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there's, there's rules. So you invited in ask it these
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questions, but you're supposed to leave having said goodbye.
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You know, when I said the layout, it said there's yes, no
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and goodbye. You have to end it with goodbye
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or you leave the portal open. However, however, researchers
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argue that that little dais and the movement is just a product
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of the ideal motor phenomenon, which is a psychological effect
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where people move objects unconsciously.
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It's like you're anticipating something that sort of happens.
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So I've never played with one. I don't know how easy it is or
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if you can separate the motor skill of you feeling like you're
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moving it and it moving by itself.
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I don't know. My instinct is like you would
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feel the tiniest bit like of muscle movement from your
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fingers to like, I feel like that's the case for me.
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Who knows, maybe this thing is on like super fine, like not
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Velcro like felt and it's just super easy to slide around and
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so I don't. Know the way I've seen it.
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Granted has only been in movies, so this can't be like the way it
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actually moves. It looks like it floats.
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Yeah. I don't think I've seen like, at
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least in recent memory, like a YouTube video of someone just
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doing it themselves or like a ghost show of someone doing it.
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Yeah. So I don't know, I I think I'd
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try it. You would try it.
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I think I would. I think I saw Ashby do it
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recently. Ashby did a ghost hunting video.
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I take that back. I did see it.
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OK. I don't know.
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It looked like it was moving, but I wasn't there.
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Yeah. Take everything you watch with a
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grain of salt. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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That's I don't know. I can't say right now.
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I think my answer is like, I still wouldn't do it.
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Once again, knowing that it's a game, knowing that there's no
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specific thing tied to anything paranormal.
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It's just a board with letters. They're making these in a
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factory. Exactly.
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But just like the psych, like once again, the psychological
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thing of it all is like if I have a hesitation, once again,
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trust your instincts and like don't.
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But I just think there's a smart way to go around it.
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And I actually will talk about that later.
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Oh. Well, that that's all I had
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prepared to make for you regarding the the Ouija board.
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And ways to contact the other side.
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And I have a surprise for Jay. You have a, you have one.
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Right now. Just kidding.
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You have. We're going to play it right
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now. Guys, Jerry's eyes went so wide.
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I was like, no, because it looks like you're reaching this like
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that box. I got him.
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Totally looks like. AI got him.
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No, I would only take one if it's give it to me and then at
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that point I'm also giving it a little spritz, spritz of my holy
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water I have in a sprayed bottle.
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Yeah, just on yourself 1st and then on whatever.
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Yeah, because when you got to, you got to take a chug real
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quick. You know you have to shield
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yourself up. No, I can't because I have my
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holy waters infused with lavender.
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You're allergic to lavender. I'm just.
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Kidding. Well, I don't think you're
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supposed. To infuse it.
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No, you can't eat lavender. There's lavender lemonade.
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Yeah, there's Lavender. Everything that lavender was
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poisoned and it just smelled good.
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No, I think that's poppy. The milk of the poppy.
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No milk Thistle. Milk Thistle?
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I don't know. I don't know.
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OK. I'm sorry.
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You were saying You were talking about talking to the dead.
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Bring that back up. Well, like that there's many
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ways to contact the other side, whether that's the dead, the
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energies, whatever. The Ouija board is a huge one
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that I think is very popular, probably the most popular one
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amongst just, you know, in movies amongst the people trying
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to be ghost hunting and and. Doing it in their own house.
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Doing it in their own house and stuff.
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However, there is a semi newer one that is still widely debated
20:46
whether it's legit, whether it's once again, it's not science,
20:50
It's not backed by science, but fans and and those in like the
20:55
paranormal realm that do study and go out hunting and stuff.
20:59
I mean, they live by it. So today we're going to be
21:01
talking about the Estes method. I love this.
21:05
The Estes method, in short, is a paranormal investigation
21:08
technique using sensory deprivation, including blindfold
21:12
noise cancelling headphones to help a receiver focus on a
21:16
spirit box random radio sweep while an operator asks questions
21:21
aiming for direct spirit communication through
21:23
interpreted words or phrases. So that's a gist of it.
21:26
That's just what it is. I do have some background
21:29
because obviously I want to educate myself and our
21:32
listeners. So in 2016, an unexpected leap
21:36
in extrasensory communication took shape in Estes Park, Co
21:42
inside the famously haunted Stanley Hotel.
21:45
I'm sure you know this hotel. I want to go, I want to be
21:47
there. At the time, it's creators full
21:50
time resident paranormal investigators had no way of
21:53
knowing that a casual thought experiment would soon ripple
21:56
through the paranormal community with remarkable speed on January
22:00
21st, 2016. It's almost 10 years ago.
22:02
Literally almost 10 years ago, investigators Carl Pfeiffer,
22:07
Connor Randall and Michelle Tate revisited the idea they've
22:10
casually been mulling over since 2011.
22:13
The question was simple. It's strange.
22:16
What if the chaotic audio produced by an SB-7 spirit box,
22:19
which is I think the most standard one, a device that
22:22
rapidly scans radio frequencies, creating bursts of noise
22:26
believed by some to be spirit manipulated, could be isolated
22:29
and funneled directly into the human mind?
22:33
In this set up, that person would become the receiver.
22:36
With some time on their hands, the team seated Randall in the
22:39
basement hallway beneath the Stanley's Concert hall, an area
22:42
buzzing with recent activity. Wearing headphones and keeping
22:46
his eyes closed, Randall listened to a direct feed from
22:49
the SP7 while Pfeiffer posed questions allowed to whatever
22:52
might be listening. Almost immediately, Randall
22:55
begin responding, and disturbingly, the answers were
22:58
coherent enough to raise eyebrows.
23:02
This is a quote directly from Pfeiffer.
23:04
I assume we'd catch the occasional coincidence, but what
23:07
surprised me was how consistent the responses were.
23:10
Right off the tape, right off the gate.
23:13
Determined to rule out suggestion and trickery, the
23:15
team refined the process. Randall was blindfolded to
23:18
prevent lip reading, which is really, really smart.
23:21
Yeah, and at his suggestion, upgraded to noise isolating
23:26
headphones to ensure he couldn't hear the questions themselves.
23:29
Rather than weakening the results, these controls seem to
23:32
sharpen them. Another quote from Pfeiffer.
23:36
Once we added the blindfold and proper headphones, the responses
23:38
didn't fade, they became more confident.
23:41
With earbuds, there's always a nagging doubt about sound bleed,
23:44
but when we started getting direct, relevant commentary
23:48
about what was happening in the room, it was electrifying.
23:51
I was genuinely stunned. The experiment was ultimately
23:55
dubbed the Estes Method, a nod to Estes Park, the Stanley
23:58
Hotel's hometown and the unlikely birthplace of what
24:01
would become one of the most influential paranormal
24:04
investigation techniques of the past several decades.
24:07
I want to do this so proud, Jerry.
24:10
When it comes like, cuz all those are like like those
24:13
controls that are like, well, these this is like up for the
24:16
best because this, this is weak. I don't know what that's called
24:18
and. They did the scientific method.
24:20
They said I have this hypothesis.
24:22
What? How can we isolate everything?
24:25
Don't know if it's the scientific method, don't.
24:27
It's the Pythagorean theorem. It's essentially, you know,
24:29
it's. It's the root of the circle.
24:31
There you go. You're trying to find the
24:32
radius. So that's all it is, right?
24:34
So that's cool. Now that they like refined it
24:36
and they kind of like. They got all the kinks out.
24:40
They had to figure out like, what?
24:42
What? What can mess this up?
24:45
That's what makes this crazy because like, what's the error?
24:48
Like at that point it's just you guessing.
24:51
Oh that's crazy. You have RIP off pants.
24:53
Nice. You gave this to me.
24:54
They. Gave you that?
24:56
Yeah. What is that?
24:57
There's what? Pants.
24:58
No, they're not RIP off. They're they?
24:59
Have a zip. Oh the zipper, it distracted
25:00
Jerry. Fun fact, that same hotel was
25:04
what inspired horror author Stephen King to write the
25:07
classic novel The Shining. Also a good movie.
25:10
So we will be going to. To Stanley, no, we won't.
25:14
That's like in a different country.
25:16
We'll go tomorrow. No, I mean if someone would love
25:19
to fund this trip, we will. We will be there in a heartbeat.
25:22
Dude, we would do like live like TikTok live would be, we'd be,
25:27
we'd be on live and stuff and we'd just be freaking out the
25:30
whole time. Write that down, Jerry.
25:31
Write that down, but write that down TikTok.
25:32
Live ghost hunt OK, so here's some like equipment that you can
25:36
use, things that have been used in the past, things we need to
25:39
put in our Amazon shopping cart. Guys, we're going to have a a a
25:42
TikTok wish list if you want to buy a stuff.
25:45
Guys, make sure you check out my registry.
25:47
Yeah, don't forget to wish me We're registered at.
25:50
Target, Actually, no, we I still have not shopped at Target in
25:55
months. We're registered at CVS.
25:59
We're registered Trader Joe's at Trader Joe's, Oshkosh, Pagosh
26:04
and The Gap. Anavarin.
26:08
What's that last one? The gap?
26:11
No, the gap. Gotcha.
26:13
So equipment. Obviously there's a spirit box,
26:16
My voice cracked, the SP7, noise cancelling headphones and a
26:20
blindfold. Easy, straightforward.
26:22
Simple, we all you need. We're only missing one thing
26:24
there. The spirit the spirit box yeah,
26:27
there is other methods. I downloaded an app.
26:29
I sent it to you. It looks it looks legit.
26:32
I will show you later. It looks legit.
26:35
You can pay for more like features and everything.
26:37
I don't think they're necessary, but in terms of like frequency,
26:40
it does pull from a radio frequency.
26:42
Like what? And the reviews, a bunch of good
26:44
reviews. Anyways, so rolls.
26:46
There's a receiver that is blindfolded wearing the
26:48
headphones operator asking the questions.
26:51
The setup is a spirit box connected to the headphones
26:54
creating white noise from sweeping radio frequencies.
26:57
The receiver is blindfolded. Blindfolded to block visual
27:00
cues. The execution operator asked
27:04
questions allow the receiver, isolated from the external
27:06
sounds and sights, verbally relays any words or phrases they
27:10
perceive from the spirit box static.
27:13
That's when you're like saying them out loud and stuff.
27:15
Yeah. So they just they they repeat
27:16
what they think they hear is a way in the radio frequencies.
27:23
And the goal is to get that coherent response from spirits
27:26
countering audio. This is the word that I can't
27:28
say Pareidolia. Pareidolia.
27:32
By having the receiver unaware of the questions, I might have
27:35
butchered that word. Anyways, so that's the s s
27:39
method. Pretty straightforward.
27:41
It looks super effective. People in the paranormal
27:43
community like vouch by it. I want to try it.
27:47
You too, we saw this. There is this YouTube called Roz
27:51
Hernandez. She's a stand up comedian and a
27:53
ghost hunter and that's what her YouTube channel is and she does
27:57
these like honestly, they're almost an hour, they're 45 to an
28:01
hour long videos of her doing just ghost hunting at different
28:04
places. For the most part, it's just
28:06
her, some night vision cameras, her audio recorder.
28:11
And what she started doing is she she's a trans woman.
28:14
She would get on Grinder and find the closest person nearby
28:17
to her who would be up to do some ghost hunting and invite
28:20
them over. And that's where I learned about
28:22
the Estes method. She said, hey, I'm going to put
28:24
you in in a blindfold and headphones and you're going to
28:28
listen to this and tell me what you hear.
28:30
And yeah. So they'd be in the dark.
28:32
Sometimes they she would put them in a in a different room.
28:35
Like if it was a bathroom that's haunted, they would be sitting
28:38
in the bathroom. She would be just outside.
28:41
So there's still that. Even though they're noise
28:43
cancelling, it's still like you're not next to each other.
28:46
And she would ask the questions and the person hearing in full
28:48
confidence would just repeat what they thought they heard on
28:52
the the radio waves. Insane.
28:55
I think that concept was just super cool.
28:57
Why are you more open to trying that than trying the Ouija
28:59
board? I think because like, I don't
29:01
know, like once again, I think it's just what I grew up with
29:04
because it's so new. We haven't seen a movie of
29:06
someone possessed by. This method, so therefore, like
29:09
my mind psychologically is like more OK with it super
29:13
contradictory because like this is this is like a more direct
29:16
form of contact if you're thinking about it.
29:19
I think either way you're opening a portal though.
29:21
I think you're opening. Up an Ave. for conversation, for
29:23
something to respond. Yeah, Yeah.
29:26
I think we should try the Ouija board.
29:28
I'm just saying, what's the worst that can happen on this?
29:31
We get possessed. OK, Take me to church.
29:34
Take me to church and Father would know what to do.
29:37
Well, once again then, there's a Catholic Church that has
29:40
documentation. The Catholic Church is so scary.
29:44
I know a lot of my family, like majority of my family's
29:46
Catholic, but they're hiding so much from us.
29:48
What is in the back end? Do you hear about that mirror?
29:51
A mirror? There's a mirror.
29:53
That's from Hogwarts. Yes, literally of same kind of
29:57
lore where it shows you what you're not supposed to see, like
30:02
the underworld, the demons, the that someone went crazy just
30:06
looking through it and it's sealed away in the Vatican.
30:09
That's for no one to look at. That's crazy.
30:12
Don't get me started on the freaking Saints.
30:14
And they're, I was gonna say indigestible.
30:18
Their bodies that don't decompose.
30:21
Oh like how they have like their jaw like on display and stuff
30:23
and for. Some of them, it's literally
30:25
like their mummified body that for some reason was mummified
30:28
naturally and they're like, oh, you didn't decompose, you're a
30:32
St. you. Don't think it's like maybe a
30:35
mold. Scientifically, probably, like
30:40
the conditions that they died in were just perfect.
30:42
That they, they just mummified. Yeah.
30:45
But no, the Catholic Church says they're Saints.
30:48
It's a miracle. Yeah, I do.
30:49
Like, I, I do like seeing like the Gothic shrines and and
30:54
artwork and stuff and like a lot of these like old churches and
30:59
buildings. I don't know.
31:00
Yeah, the architecture, the iconography, yeah, everything
31:04
they do is so kind of like hardcore.
31:06
Yeah, very much. I mean the the jaw of Saint
31:09
something and the eyeballs of Saint like it's it's and it's
31:12
just like a skull inside of a gold a Dome.
31:14
Yeah. So I do have other stuff that I
31:17
want to share. This is just finding random
31:19
websites that kind of like dive dove in deeper and once again
31:22
get someone else's perspective on the s s method.
31:25
So I found this place called this website
31:28
calledhalloween.com, pretty cool website.
31:32
It's Australian centered resource for all things
31:34
Halloween. I guess their purpose was
31:36
because there wasn't a lot of like Halloween like just
31:39
resources and material in Australia.
31:42
So they just boom. They found their spot in the
31:44
market. They found their niche in
31:45
Australia, so they mentioned how the s s method is relatively low
31:50
cost to try to open communication with spirits.
31:54
Every investigator who uses equipment knows just how
31:56
expensive some of it can be in comparison.
31:58
This method can be quite affordable as it only requires a
32:02
headphone blindfold sphere. Box and an app apparently.
32:04
And an app if you don't need it, if you don't have the sphere
32:07
box. So before they start the
32:09
session, they found it helpful to sit in a space which is to be
32:12
investigated. Total darkness and silence to
32:16
see if we can hear, feel or see anything.
32:20
Sorry. Taking this time to absorb your
32:22
surroundings can also help you ground yourself and assist in
32:25
heightening your senses to the change in environment.
32:28
Also, make sure you introduce yourself to the spirits who may
32:31
be there and ask them what you want them to do.
32:34
There's no use in saying come up and talk into the spirit box as
32:38
a spirit you're attempting to communicate with may not have
32:41
ever seen a spirit box or use the technique.
32:44
Before, so you have to like ease them into it like, hey, this is
32:46
the phone. We use this to talk to one
32:49
another. Like, yeah, like, like, like a.
32:53
Selfie come, come in ghost. Yeah, we're going to take a
32:56
picture. This is a selfie.
32:58
Yeah. It's like, I mean, they've never
32:59
seen this technology before. They don't know what that is.
33:01
What if we come and it's disguised as a phonograph?
33:05
That'd be cool. Would it feel like increases
33:08
like the amount of like? Has anyone ever tried?
33:10
This. Write that down.
33:12
Write that down. Write that down.
33:14
We're going to get old timey costumes and be like, hey, we're
33:17
here for the party. Exactly.
33:21
So some spirits may be unaware of how it works or if it'll
33:24
cause them harm. So always come with an open mind
33:26
and respect. How do they know?
33:28
How do they know the ghosts are scared?
33:30
I'm scared. I mean, well, I think it's more
33:32
of like a, they might be like more, I don't know.
33:36
They're trying to limit any kind of like, let's make them
33:40
comfortable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:41
And like, why scare them off? Why even, like, let's open it
33:45
up. True.
33:45
Let's open it up for them. The floor is open.
33:47
The floor page, but do it right here.
33:49
This this this this Apple. IPhone right here.
33:52
I think that's why I like, remember that time we were at
33:55
the Queen Mary and the kid was like, speak into this box, it
33:59
shines red. And he was kind of explaining
34:01
the whole process. I see that now.
34:03
It all makes sense. It all makes sense.
34:10
One second, OK, you can start your session by saying and then
34:15
they they put a quote of like what you can say and just fill
34:18
in the blanks. Hello, my name is blank and I'm
34:21
here to and I'm here tonight to communicate with any spirits who
34:24
may be present. I come with the purest, the
34:27
purest of intentions and greatest respect.
34:30
And I mean you no harm. I would love it if you could
34:32
come up to this black box in my hand and use your energy to
34:36
communicate with words by talking into it.
34:38
In response to our questions. We would love to hear your
34:41
story, so please don't be afraid they don't talk English.
34:45
Imagine. OK, we're gonna have a
34:47
translated version. English and span just.
34:49
Have it ready, just Siri play it, Siri play it, Siri play it.
34:52
So that's an example of what you can do to kind of like, you
34:55
know, set the stage and see if you can get a a response of any
34:59
kind. Now, that was a direct quote.
35:01
That was not me saying it. So I'm not inviting any energy
35:04
or negative space into this space.
35:05
So you are not welcome. I've already scared me enough,
35:08
thank you. Thank you.
35:08
Bye. You stay in your corner, I'll
35:10
stay in mine. We're going to be doing this.
35:13
What's that to get into Mundo? OK, sorry I cut you off.
35:20
We're going to try this. Because we are.
35:22
Soon we're going to hit up some Orange County hotspots on a
35:27
random weeknights, allegedly, and just see what's up.
35:31
I'm excited. I think we have the notice
35:33
cancelling. We have the app.
35:35
I have a blindfold. We have a blind.
35:37
Yep. Why do you have a?
35:37
Blindfold. It's not a blindfold, it is a
35:39
sleep. It's an eye mask for sleeping.
35:42
I need one of those. Well, you can't have it because
35:45
I need for ghost hunting. That's fair.
35:48
OK, valid. Kind of borrowed after.
35:50
Yes, yes, after, after the ghost hunting.
35:51
Once the ghost attaches to it, it's all yours.
35:56
Funny, it's coming back to you anyways.
35:58
I'm gonna use it one time to like.
35:59
Not for me. Nah, it was.
36:01
Here you go. Right.
36:02
Have it back. I don't have a good sleep.
36:05
So that's the s s method. That is just another website.
36:10
I do like how you were mentioning spirits when you were
36:14
telling us like the the the Ouija board and stuff, because
36:17
that's what it is. Unfortunately, sometimes a ghost
36:21
is mistaken with that spirit. They're like interchangeable,
36:24
but they're actually very different.
36:26
Really. I do have some of that tell.
36:28
Me. OK, OK, OK, tell me.
36:29
Tell me. So.
36:31
Damn Jerry came. I am prepared.
36:33
I'm telling you like this, this thing, it's exciting, it's
36:36
different. It's something that I don't
36:38
know. It just like itches my brain,
36:40
you know? Wow.
36:41
So according to US ghostadventures.com.
36:44
I trust them. That's how do I Though they're
36:47
often lumped together and identified through similar
36:49
means, ghosts and spirits are not quite the same thing.
36:52
Distinction matters. Wow.
36:54
Ghosts are best understood as echoes, frozen in time.
36:57
They tend to cling to specific locations or meaningful objects,
37:00
often tied to circumstances of their death, and manifest as
37:04
straightforward apparitions, much like a damage reel or film
37:08
of film. Sorry.
37:09
They replay the same moments in the same places, appearing on
37:12
the predictable loop with little awareness of the present.
37:15
So is that what a residual hunting is?
37:17
It's literally what a hunting. Okay, It's just they're caught
37:20
in a never ending loop. Never ending loop with that
37:22
energy just stuck somewhere. So when we went to the Queen
37:25
Mary, would the Lady in white be a residual hunting if they see
37:30
her just like always doing the same thing, just walking the
37:32
hall? Is that a piano?
37:34
Yep, that's a residual. So there's that energy that's
37:36
stuck in that floor because it doesn't appear in any other
37:38
floor and it's always in white. Just like the the not agent.
37:42
What was the name Clark? Yes, in the in the captain's
37:46
quarters, yeah. Yeah, same thing.
37:48
Nowhere else. You don't see Clark trolling,
37:50
Yeah? Next is the piano, chopping it
37:51
up with the Lady in white. You don't think ghosts have
37:54
fanfics romances? It's time to write it, Brian.
37:57
Come on, get to it. Write it down.
37:59
Write it down. It's been stored away in my
38:01
brain. The Queen Mary fanfic. 2 ghosts
38:06
lost at sea forever in Long Beach in Long Beach.
38:09
They think they're at sea. Nope.
38:10
They. Think they're at sea?
38:12
I'm Nope. You're writing it down.
38:14
Writing it down. So spirits, by contrast, are far
38:20
more fluid and conscious in nature.
38:22
Rather than being impressions, they are linked to a soul,
38:25
aware, intentional, and capable of interacting with the physical
38:29
world. Existing on a different plane of
38:31
reality, Spirits may move freely between spaces and can take many
38:35
forms, including humans, animals, or even elemental
38:39
entities across countless cultures and belief systems.
38:42
Ancestral spirits in a particular whole.
38:45
Excuse me, a particular whole in a particular whole.
38:48
Ancestral spirits in particular, hold a central and revered role,
38:53
acting as guides, guardians or lingering witnesses to the
38:56
living world. So they're, they have like a,
39:01
there's a consciousness there. Absolutely.
39:04
They have like free reign to do whatever they want.
39:08
That's the scary ones. You know, yes, I'm sure it's
39:11
limited. Because once again, if we're
39:13
talking about energies, there's yeah, there's no corporal body.
39:15
There's nothing to just like, yeah, smack me across the face
39:19
or. I mean, I mean, it's to each
39:21
their own, Brian. I've seen the the three
39:23
scratches of the beast and people getting those.
39:27
So yeah. I have so many questions.
39:33
There's so many questions and we can keep diving in deep.
39:37
Yeah, 'cause I want to know like how, how much can they roam
39:41
around? Like if is a spirit tied to like
39:43
a like a chunk of area like AI can only haunt within this acre
39:48
of land or can they move around? I don't know man, like.
39:51
What's it like being a spirit? It's like Stranger Things.
39:54
It's like the upside. Down I haven't watched.
39:57
I haven't watched. Oh, the controversy was the
40:00
finale. But anyway, we won't get into
40:01
that today. A couple examples.
40:07
Apparitions, the visual sightings of ghosts and full
40:11
bodied apparitions. Misty.
40:13
Shadowy shapes Auditory phenomena which is ghostly.
40:18
Ghostly encounters may involve the unexplained sounds of
40:21
footsteps, whispers, voices attributed to the presence of
40:24
spirits. Psychokinetic activity.
40:27
Poltergeist hauntings are characterized by object
40:29
movement, knocking sounds, and other disturbances that may
40:32
suggest a manifestation of psychokinetic energy.
40:35
Cold spots. Temperature changes, orbs, light
40:39
anomalies. Some believe that orbs and
40:41
unusual light phenomena captured in photographs are evidence of
40:44
siritual energy or the presence of ghosts.
40:47
Ectoplasm. In spiritualist circles,
40:50
ectoplasm is believed to be a substance exuded by mediums
40:54
during seances indicating the presence of spirit.
40:56
OK, So what is? What is the substance like?
40:58
Where does it come out I? Don't know and I wanted to dive
41:00
even deeper on that to see if there's physical samples of
41:04
ectoplasm that I know I didn't get to do it.
41:07
What? What would that be?
41:08
It's like a discharge of some sort.
41:10
I know, but where is it? Where?
41:12
Where is it excreting from? The walls?
41:14
The table? The medium.
41:16
Get inside. I want to see a medium.
41:20
Actually, now that I'm looking at that puddle right there next
41:21
to you, what is that stop? Is that questions the?
41:24
Spirits don't want me to tell you.
41:27
So you're the medium. I'm the secret.
41:29
I'm the Long Island Medium. I'm Teresa Caputo, Long Island
41:34
Medium. I'm getting something.
41:37
It's it's it's. I see it.
41:40
It's it's your. It's your Uncle Bobby.
41:42
Your Uncle Bob? Bobby.
41:43
Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you know Bobby?
41:45
He was, there's a bus, there's a bus.
41:48
He was a bus driver, there was a bus.
41:50
And then if it flew into the ocean?
41:52
It flew into the. Ocean.
41:53
Yes, yeah. Yes, yes, yes.
41:55
I lost the accent yes yes, yes, yeah.
41:59
Well, yes. The ocean is the ocean shown to
42:04
the ocean. The Sharks got him, and he wants
42:06
to tell you that he's OK, and then he left you $20.00 for your
42:09
birthday. In a card.
42:10
In a card? Yeah, but the card, your aunt,
42:14
she used it. She stole it.
42:16
No, she used it for her nails. She got her nails done.
42:18
She stole it, but. She's not married.
42:20
She's not related to you by blood.
42:22
Then how is she my aunt? Oh, through marriage.
42:25
How do you know this stuff? I'm Teresa Caputo.
42:28
I know everything. Now pay me.
42:31
That's $300. Three hundred.
42:33
Here's 400. Thank you so much.
42:35
You're welcome. So yeah, friend, that's that.
42:41
Let's see a psychic medium. I'm down.
42:44
I am too. Until they say something that's
42:45
a little too real and then I'll cry and.
42:47
You're like fuck. Like why would you do that to?
42:49
Me, I want my money back. There was, I grew up in Chino,
42:52
right? And there was on the Main Street
42:54
of this psychic. It had like $5 palm readings.
42:58
I always wanted to go and I never did because my mom wasn't
43:01
going to let me go. But.
43:03
What's stopping when I? Went to the right when I did
43:06
community theater there. One of the people went there and
43:09
they were like, she told me something that I've never told a
43:16
soul. And I was like, oh, so I trust
43:19
her and don't know who she is. Never been, but I trust her.
43:24
It's Larissa Caputo. It's Larissa Caputo Caputo.
43:28
It's the cousin. Real Housewife of Cheeto Hills.
43:31
For real. Oh my God, yeah, there was a I
43:35
grew up down in San Diego in National City off the 5 freeway.
43:39
I think there is a palm reader like Sidekick with a huge sign
43:43
and in my Old Street if I were to just go down towards the
43:47
freeway, like my street would take me straight, straight area.
43:52
So I always thought about that place because it's huge like
43:55
like what place like that has like a huge neon sign like, and
43:57
it has you from the freeway. And has been open for SO.
44:00
Long it's been there since I can remember.
44:03
I'm just a wee lad. I wish I had psychic abilities.
44:07
I used to think I did when I was little, but that's because I
44:10
used to watch a lot of Long Island Medium.
44:12
And you're like. I would watch Long Island Medium
44:15
The Ghost Whisperer. Oh such a good show.
44:18
Adventures. No, Ghost Whisperer was a
44:20
scripted show was this lady who could just see ghosts and she
44:26
was always helping people and it was a really like emotional
44:29
show. Wow, Yeah.
44:31
Dang, that'd be cool that I think, yeah.
44:35
If you watched, if you guys watched it, the TV show the
44:39
Welcome to dairy. Like one of the main characters
44:41
is like this big psychic and he like unlocks his third eye in
44:44
one of the episodes and sees all the spirits.
44:47
Who's supposedly connected to another one of?
44:49
Yes, someone was telling me. Stephen King's.
44:51
Alexa was telling me that he spoilers.
44:55
Spoilers. Spoilers if you haven't seen.
44:56
It in the last episode he says he's going to go work at the
44:58
restaurant. Yeah, guess what Restaurant.
45:00
The restaurant. At The Shining At the Shining
45:02
that is inspired by the Stanley Hotel, it's all it's all
45:05
connected. It's all connected, yeah.
45:09
We're definitely going to be trying that out because.
45:12
It seems attainable, like it seems like like they said, it's
45:15
easy and cheap and we love easy and cheap.
45:19
This podcast is easy and cheap. It's.
45:20
Super easy and cheap. Like, you'd be surprised, but.
45:23
So cheap we don't get paid. You're not getting paid what
45:28
you're getting paid anyways. So in all roads lead back to.
45:32
Spirits, tell me, how much is he making?
45:35
What's his salary? OK, I'll tell you.
45:40
Yeah, we're going to do this. We're going to try it out.
45:43
We're going to surprise you guys with some places, hopefully.
45:45
Yeah, if any of you listeners like if your house is haunted or
45:49
something and you can like let us borrow it for a night to just
45:52
like do ghost hunting. We'll go to your family, like,
45:55
yeah, I need you guys to bounce. Yeah, y'all can't be there.
45:57
I need you to. We're going to have guests and
45:59
they're going to talk to the ghosts.
46:00
And they're going to be sleeping here tonight, you guys are.
46:02
Going to have to find someone, find a couch, sleep in the car.
46:06
Sleep in the car. You can use the restroom, but
46:08
you have to text us. Beforehand, yes, because we
46:10
can't. You can't taint the evidence,
46:11
no. No, we are truth.
46:14
Finders, fact searchers. Now we're going to get those
46:19
ghosts. I got nothing I was trying to
46:21
come up with with more to feed the fire we're.
46:27
Spooky. Deals.
46:29
We'll workshop that. That sounds pretty.
46:31
It rolls off the tongue. That's spooky.
46:33
Kind of like when you roll your ankle when you fall and because
46:36
you're old. Oh my God.
46:37
No, no, no. I got no nieces, no nephews.
46:41
I'm not a kid yet. Hey, Mookie.
46:44
Oh, I'm sorry, Mookie. Mookie's my dog.
46:47
He needs an uncle. You.
46:50
Have brothers well. They're.
46:53
One of them lives with him. But he they're technically
46:57
brothers if you think about. It they were raised together,
46:59
they're raised they're like the Mexican thing of you have an
47:01
uncle who's younger than you exactly it it just it it
47:05
sometimes it just be like that it.
47:06
Just be like that. You just got to accept it and be
47:08
like, you know what? Mexican families, some of them
47:10
just don't believe in any kind of birth control or
47:11
contraceptive unfortunately. Yep.
47:15
We won't get into that trauma. Anyways, anything else fun and
47:20
exciting happening in your life? Oh man, no.
47:22
Besides. This was last week.
47:23
Besides this, I have we we have some very exciting things for
47:26
you guys. I'm excited for this weekend.
47:31
We have D&D coming back. Baby, we're finally going to be
47:34
reunited. It's been so long I haven't
47:37
rolled dice in months. It's it, it feels like we've
47:41
been fighting an addiction and we're going to get to, we're
47:45
going to get to relapse, unfortunately.
47:47
No, you know, I bought, I bought new dice in the break.
47:50
I'm excited. So did I.
47:51
I'm so excited to. Use.
47:53
I need to find them also guys. I'm, I don't know about you,
47:57
Jerry, but I'm, I'm committing to my New Year's resolutions.
48:00
It's only been a week. I've seen the pictures I've been
48:02
writing. I've seen the pictures.
48:04
I don't know. How much I want to devolve?
48:07
Is that a word? I don't know how much I want to
48:11
share. OK, OK to y'all but.
48:16
Back when I was like 13 years old, OK minor, I used to write
48:20
fan fiction. OK, nice, nice and happy.
48:23
Slightly not safe for work fan fiction.
48:25
Interesting. A Big Time Rush.
48:30
Is that why you sent me a Big Time Rush song?
48:31
Yeah, I did because I've been in my fields, Jerry, like
48:34
legitimately, I've been like, I'm 14 again, Wow.
48:37
And I'm like experiencing things for the first time that.
48:40
Must be so cool. Yeah, and I have been working
48:43
separately from my fanfic. I've been working on a story
48:49
that has been put on on pause right now.
48:51
That's valid because my current project is rewriting the
48:56
fanfiction. Fanfiction I wrote at as a
49:00
preteen just to see the difference.
49:03
Like because I won't lie, I was reading it and I was like damn,
49:06
what's going to happen next? This is good.
49:08
And then it abruptly ends because I stopped updating in
49:11
2011. Oh my God, you gave up or
49:13
something came. Up who knows I literally it just
49:16
stopped It's crazy and I have some ideas of how it should have
49:21
ended. I like so.
49:23
I like, I wonder what 2011 Brian's idea of the ending was
49:28
going to be in. Oh God, who knows.
49:30
We will never know. We will never know that he's
49:32
gone. That's hella meta, dude.
49:33
Like you're editing your own stuff, but it's like kind of
49:36
new. Because it's a different person
49:38
at this point. I sat there for four hours
49:41
trying to find it, 'cause I'm like, I don't know what my
49:42
username is. You guys are never going to
49:44
know. I'm never sharing that.
49:46
The only people? No.
49:47
It's not that one I thought it was.
49:49
The only people that I'm going to be sharing this, maybe book
49:54
club, maybe book club can can read this OK, but that's it.
49:59
Wait, am I getting a copy? You're in book club by
50:02
association. OK cool.
50:03
Can mine be signed though? I don't know.
50:06
I did format it to be principal. Sign my copy.
50:08
Because my next hobby is to be a book binder.
50:12
That's an expensive. Hobby to start so I need to save
50:14
up some money, but it's OK you're you're you're you're
50:17
planting the seed. It's manifesting into something
50:19
that's going to be that's beautiful.
50:21
Yep, that's sick, friend. That's sick.
50:24
Speaking of Big Time Rush, my song of the week is Big Time
50:26
Rush. Oh my God it is paralyzed by BTR
50:30
is. That the one you sent me?
50:32
Yeah. Yeah, that is right.
50:33
Yeah, I saw them in concert as an adult with Alexa like a
50:36
couple years back. Healed my inner child.
50:38
That's fucking absolutely healed my inner child.
50:41
I. Cried.
50:44
I was telling Brian that, like I looked at the lyrics, I'm like,
50:46
yo, why is this song kind of attacking me right now?
50:49
Some of the lyrics, they're like.
50:52
And the T with that song, it was unreleased for a really long
50:54
time. Like it, like it didn't make it
50:56
to an album or something. And then they did eventually
50:58
release it 'cause it was like everywhere in the BTR community.
51:02
It is their Best Song that's really good.
51:04
Nothing else I send you. I will if I send you any more.
51:08
Big Time Rush will not compare to that song.
51:10
Nothing else is that exact vibe of like, slightly punk boy band
51:16
pop. Yeah, very slightly punk.
51:19
If like yes, there are like, you know, it's not super super
51:23
heavy. It's not super, super hard.
51:24
Like it is like very like, yeah, like you said, like pop punk and
51:26
stuff. But if you were to play that
51:29
like in the car, I wouldn't have guess Big Time Rush.
51:31
No, it was hits. It's been on my repeat for the
51:34
last four days. That's sick, friend.
51:36
I listen to it, it's pretty good.
51:37
I approve. Have a funny song?
51:41
Oh my God. We were at Nordstrom Rack, and
51:44
this is the second time a Nordstrom Rack song has me just
51:48
like grooving in the hall, in the in the aisles.
51:51
I'm like. Siri, what song is this?
51:52
Jeez. What's what song is this?
51:55
And I wasn't surprised. It is a It's 911 by Lady Gaga,
52:01
but it's the Sophie Tucker remix.
52:03
What? We saw Sophie Tucker at
52:05
Coachella. I was.
52:06
About to say that name is familiar.
52:08
They remixed 911 and they have a song called Emergency or 911 I
52:12
forget, but they have a song that's super similar so they
52:14
just like. It's a mash up.
52:15
It's a mash up, but it's mostly 911, just remixed Gaga, a little
52:18
sprinkle of their song because I don't think you can you.
52:21
Can't play this as soon as you leave.
52:22
Dude, I was like, we were at the shoe section.
52:25
I'm like, OK, Gaga, yeah. And then it just like, boom,
52:29
you're in a club. And I was like fucking Nordstrom
52:31
Rack with the bangers with the Bop.
52:34
Imagine the lights dim like red and blue light starts.
52:37
Jon Hamm the that one tick tock. Yep, that was me.
52:42
But it's 911. It's 911 by Lady Gaga Sophie
52:44
Tucker remix. It's so good.
52:45
Listen to it. Put in the car.
52:47
Happy song. That's all I got, folks.
52:50
Yeah. Thank you guys for listening.
52:51
Thank you. You're excited for more
52:53
paranormal stuff in the in the future because we I have a
52:56
feeling you're going to lean a little more happily into that
52:59
into the future. It's exciting, and if it's
53:01
exciting for me, I hope it's as exciting for you.
53:03
Yeah. So I hope you enjoy.
53:06
Yeah. Thank you for tagging along.
53:07
Hope you guys had a great day. Had a good hour with us and
53:10
we'll see you guys next week. Next week, same time, same
53:14
place. Don't be late.
53:16
If you're late again, I'm going to have to formally write you
53:18
up. I'm sorry, this is like your
53:20
third verbal. It hurts, Jerry to write you up.
53:23
Don't do it. I can't.
53:25
I can't. I need to see the improvement
53:26
please. Yeah, you guys need to be on
53:28
time. All right, guys, talk.
53:31
Love you. All right, bye.