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Tang's Trainwreck—Wildcats' 4-Game Slide & MAJOR Culture Questions (S4//E39) · Cocaine Willie

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basketball. They are spiraling, but they
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brought it back. They brought us all back in.
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We're all, we're all rowing in the.
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Same direction they bring us all back.
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With a big win, A big, big, big win against the worst team in
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men's college basketball statistically, Mississippi
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Valley State, the Delta Devils, you know what they are?
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They they've got one win on the basketball court, but they've
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got a win for every game they played this season on social
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media because that's what her account is absolutely
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phenomenal. I don't know if you guys saw,
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did you guys see the tweet that they had last night after this
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game? They I did I.
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Saw, I saw something. I I think, I don't know if it's
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the one that you saw. Do you follow Mississippi Valley
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state? Do you like see multiple tweets?
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No, this is the only, the only tweet.
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This is the only tweet that exists the delta.
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Devils. I follow them for Jerry Rice
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takes. That's all I follow them for.
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Interesting, But you didn't know that's where he went to school.
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I didn't know that was where he went to.
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School. You didn't.
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I'm like Rain Man for knowing where.
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I would like to go, I would like to go heads up with.
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You on, I'd be you. You think he would?
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I would. Where did that tweet?
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Did they delete the tweet? Scott while they.
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Deleted the tweet. Get the Get the trivia going.
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Oh, give us a shot. I got dude.
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I got totally. I got got by this one.
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I totally thought that this was their actual account, but that
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was that was really dumb of me. Anyway, I'm going to show the
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tweet because it was funny. Oh my God.
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You got got. I got got.
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No, that's not good. That's not their Twitter
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account. Another actual Twitter.
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Account another actual I got got wild that Jerome Tang finally
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decided to actually coach versus US for some reason.
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Go go go to their actual one. I thought their actual Twitter
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account had a It's the one that says relevant people.
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What? Oh.
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Maybe the devils are not afraid of the Octagon of Doom, OK.
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Yeah, this is way. This is way less fun.
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This is way less fun now. Anyway, I'm done.
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I'm done. I'm done reading tweets from
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from the delta. Devils.
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Oh it is unofficial. Damn.
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Yeah, yeah. K State.
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K State wins the game 108 to 49. As we all remember last year, I
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think this team only won by like 18 points against the Delta
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Devils, who were at the time still the worst team in men's
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college basketball. But you know, this is coming on
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the heels of a four-game losing streak.
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You'll lose games to Indiana, which we were all here for,
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Nebraska, which we were not here for.
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But we already talked about Seton Hall on Saturday and
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Bowling Green. So I want to give as much air to
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the losses as we are giving to the win against Mississippi
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Valley State. We haven't had a chance to talk
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about the Bowling Green or the Seton Hall game.
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So I want to give you 2 an opportunity to to share your
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thoughts, to air your grievances, if you will.
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This team is bad, not good. They're not good.
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The five wins we appreciated because we scored a lot of
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points, but in the grand scheme of things, basketball is not
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just offense, it's defense. And this team cannot play
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defense and that is one of Jerome Tang's biggest strengths
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is coaching A-Team to play defense.
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The four-game set of losses was just extremely poor.
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PJ Haggerty has gone nowhere. Regressed is I think an
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appropriate word to say in those four games.
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I'm not taking anything from yesterday's like this.
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That is the worst team in college basketball.
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There are 360 however many damn teams in college basketball and
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we're playing them. I would expect that you're going
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to win by 60 points. Like that should be the
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expectation. Nobody can take anything out of
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the the game yesterday other than hopefully it's a get right
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game before we go on the road to Creighton.
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I mean, that's how I take that. I, I, I just, this team in those
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four games looks so lost. Like, yeah, you could say in the
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Nebraska game, they were down 15 in the first half.
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Like they had to come back in the second-half to make it a
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game. But Bowling Green looked
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absolutely, 100% better than you in that game.
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That should not happen. Seton Hall, like Shaheen
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Holloway, won seven games with that team last year.
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And Shaheen Holloway, who for anybody listening is the head
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coach of Seton Hall, revamped that entire roster similar to
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Jerome Tang and what he did this year.
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And that team has won seven games already that I think
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they're eating one now. They're 10-9 games.
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Like I am done with this team. I'm done with.
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I'm done. I'm done basketball.
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I I've said this on the show like before.
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I love football, but college basketball is my thing.
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I love watching K State basketball.
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I can't watch K State basketball right now.
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I just can't. This team is just so poor on the
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fundamentals of a game that, yeah, you can make shots.
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Who gives a shit if you can't stop anybody?
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You're done. Like you're going to be done in
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Big 12 play. I was so like the the five games
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I was so happy because it's like, Oh yeah, we can score.
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But I was also like as much as I was happy, I was like, this team
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can't stop a four year old from scoring on a Little Tikes goal.
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Like they can't. And we're seeing it and it's
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kind of. Hard.
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So a little basket. OK, I I'm going to stop or I
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want to deal with this. One last thing, you think about
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the transfers in the Euro, guys that Jerome Tang brought in.
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PJ Haggerty has been your best guy.
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That's obvious. But is your like you?
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You have a guy you're paying $1,000,000 from Europe to come
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over here who did not play in the Bowling Green game, did not
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play against Indiana. Didn't play against Seton Hall.
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Seton Hall did not play against Seton Hall and he played shit
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minute shit minutes against Mississippi Valley State.
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Like your evaluation of this guy either was very poor or you're
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not doing a good job of developing this guy for college
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basketball if you are sitting him for two games as coach's
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decision. Elias, whatever.
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Elias, like a lot of people, had some pretty good like thoughts
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about him coming in. You know, has experience in the
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pro league in Germany, like he doesn't look great, like his
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development into the college game does not look great.
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The guys that have come in here PJ exception like that shear
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looks good on the offensive end, terrible in the defensive end,
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which we knew he was one of the poorest offenders like last
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year. So maybe we should have expected
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this. Maybe we should have expected
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that this defense was going to be so poor.
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But we are this number of games in, where is the development of
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this team? It's not there.
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It just is not there. I'm not expecting a good
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performance on the road against Creighton Despite that
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Creighton's not a good team right now.
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Like I'm not expecting a good performance against Creighton.
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Yeah, you're going to have like 3 games before Big 12 play.
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But this does not look like a team that's going to compete in
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the Big 12. And the fact of the matter is
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that we are stuck with Jerome Tang this year, next year, like
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buy out. I would rather pay $18 million,
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Colin Klein to run the football program than buy Jerome Tang
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out. Like that is what I feel about
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Jean making this decision, which a lot of people in our fan base,
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when we heard Jerome Tang was going to Arkansas, a lot of
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people were up in arms, like, we need to pay Jerome Tang.
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Like, yeah, it's not our fault. We didn't like give Jerome Tang
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the contract. But we believed in Jerome Tang.
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Like we believed that he was going to build this program and
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get it to be successful in Big 12 and we are not there and
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we're stuck with this like unless somebody wins a
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Powerball, hopefully me, maybe I can help out with it.
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Like we're stuck with this type of play, this type of coaching
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for the long haul, which is extremely disappointing.
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Yeah, I mean, you nailed all the points there.
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It's, it's, it's tough to watch this team really, there's no
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identity to the team. I mean, maybe scoring the
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basketball, but when you're shooting below 50% from the free
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throw line and you're, you know, that was one of the big selling
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points of being able to close out games with this team.
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And what was, you know, a real nail in the coffin for a lot of
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the games last year is just being unable to finish games at
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the free throw line, having a guard that can ice out games.
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PJ Haggerty has just got the total yips at the free throw
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line and and from the field in general.
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It it's really weird to see that dynamic Nate Johnson not as
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involved as I want him to be because he is very easy.
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He's probably if I really took a step back, I think Nate Johnson
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is actually the best player on this team, not PJ Haggerty.
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He is a green light special. Of course you're going to score
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a lot of points when every time you get the ball in your hands,
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you're allowed to shoot it. So I I don't, and I think that
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hinders us a lot of the ways because if P JS not going, we've
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given him the keys to this car. And if you're not going, the
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car's not going to start. So maybe we need to take the
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keys away from him. I don't know.
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Maybe he needs to be a secondary player, take the pressure off of
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him half into score every time, run some sets for other players.
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I think, I think McGriff can score in the low post.
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We don't feed him enough there. There's a lot of things that I
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can nitpick and just, you know, just from watching the games and
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going back, like man, why didn't we do this?
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Why didn't we do that? But I don't think Jerome Tang
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knows what he's doing either. I think he's very reactionary
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and I, I don't know that for a fact, but just watching how the
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games go from one game to the next, some people are sitting on
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the bench. There's no rotation.
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Marcus, Marcus Johnson finally takes the jacket off.
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What's going on? I don't know what I could sell
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that he's trying new things, but like maybe develop the pieces
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that you want to develop. David Castillo has gone a long
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way, but he's only getting 16 minutes.
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I don't know. I don't know what what, what the
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answer to this team is because I don't think Jerome Tang knows
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and that's not a good thing. That's not good.
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So, and defensively we're in shambles.
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There's just no, there's just no resolving that.
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I just, there's the players that we have don't have the grit to
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be defensive players. The only player that I could
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even give a remote inkling that there could be a good defensive
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player is Buca. That's the only one, literally
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the only one, and that's only because he's 7 foot three.
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That's. The only reason he's the only
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player that it seems like we've seen any kind of development
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from this year where where he started out not looking great.
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I think David Castillo has come a long way, and that's even from
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last year and maybe and maybe. You're talking last year?
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OK. Maybe you're just talking from
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this year. Yeah, from this year.
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Well, 'cause Castillo's only one of like 3 guys that are even
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returning from. Last year, so like.
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They don't have a benchmark. No, I'm no, I'm saying even from
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this year, I think you're right. Bibuca has gone up, everybody
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else has gone down. And obviously you're going to
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look like you're worse when you're losing 4 games in a row,
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right? We lost four games in a row,
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you're going to look worse. But just basketball wise,
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they're just not growing. They're not growing as a team.
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They're not getting rotation set because Matt knows this, Bob
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knows this. Everybody that's has my voice,
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you know, going through the ears right now know this, that when
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you get later into Big 12 play, your rotation shrinks.
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Not it doesn't get bigger. You don't get more players
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involved. You need the people that you
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could trust. And right now I don't know who
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who those players are. We're still going 10 deep and
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this thing with players on the bench getting and a different
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amount of minutes every game, Like that's not how basketball
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has ever been ran. That's not how any of this
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should work. So yeah, I I think we are in a
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low, low point. Maybe a win at Creighton can,
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you know, get some muster back into this team.
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Maybe dropping 108 on the the Red Devils was something that we
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needed. But my God, it's just it's just
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not good. It's just not good basketball.
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Here's here's the deal though. You've got two teams that on
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paper kind of evenly matched. You've got K State at 5 or 6 and
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four, I guess now Creighton's at 5:00 and 4:00.
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This is probably the worst Creighton team that we've seen
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since 20/14/2015, which was the year after Doug McDermott left.
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And I, for those of you who are maybe newer to the pod, I know a
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lot about Creighton basketball because I've I've watched them
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for longer than I watched K State basketball.
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To be honest with, with all of you, this is the worst Creighton
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team, But Greg McDermott is a he, he would run circles around
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Jerome Tang when it comes to coaching basketball.
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Jerome Tang is in over his head. He has no idea what he's doing
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out there. Chef, you hit the nail on the
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head. What are what are we doing with
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these rotations? Why, why in the Bowling Green
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game are you throwing a bone to Marcus Johnson hasn't played a
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single minute all season. You decide to throw him a bone
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in a game that you end up losing to a horrible team that goes on
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and then loses their next game to Utah Valley.
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What are what are we doing here anymore?
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I, I don't understand it. And chef you, you called it
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before the season started. I think we, you and I both
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decided we're not going to set expectations for this team this
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year. And, and I've been ignorance is
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bliss. I've been a lot more blissful
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this year by not setting some sort of a ceiling of expectation
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for what this team should be. I think we set an expectation
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for what they could be. We saw the flashes, we saw the
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talent that he brought in. You bring in an all American
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what the second all Americans ever transfer in the transfer
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portal era from one school to another.
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So you have the bona fides there as far as talent is concerned.
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But again, it's the definition of insanity.
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We've seen it. This is now the third season in
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a row we've seen the same shit over and over and over again of
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you rebuild the roster, you tear it down, you rebuild it, you
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tear it down, you rebuild it again.
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And it's just, it's boggles the mind to me to think that this is
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still happening. And what are we going to see
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next year? He's going to tear it down.
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He's going to rebuild it. We're going to have still NIL
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backing, but and if I'm Jean Taylor, I'm pulling every single
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dollar of revenue share and I'm allocating it towards football.
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If, if Jerome Tang cannot do anything with the talent that
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he's been able to bring in over the last three years, four
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years, I mean, not four years, three years because obviously
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with Marquis and Kiante, they they were able to prove us all
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wrong on this. But over the last three seasons,
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if, if you can't win games and get to the NCAA tournament, get
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to March for the third straight season, I think you should be
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calling back his his revenue sharing.
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I think you, if you're a big money donor, you should not be
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supporting the men's basketball program until he proves
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otherwise. And, and I hate to say that, but
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I, I just don't, I just don't see Jerome Tang being able to
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out coach Greg McDermott in Omaha on Saturday.
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I don't see that happening. I'm going to be wearing purple.
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I'm going to be wearing my K State stuff, going with my dad.
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I'm going into the into the fire, if you will, of, of Chi
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Arena or whatever the hell it's called now.
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Used to be the quest center. I'll always know what is that.
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But it's just I, I'm so infuriated with the state of K
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State's men's basketball team that it, it's, it's I, I
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continue to watch it, but it's like watching a train wreck.
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I think I said the exact same thing last year.
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Like I can't pull my eyes away from what's happening.
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I have to watch it. I, I don't get enjoyment out of
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it, but I feel like I'm watching a train wreck.
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But I don't have any more to say on it.
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I just had to get that off my chest.
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Like the dude has no idea what he's doing.
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I thought I had some hope that maybe bringing in some of these
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coaches as assistants would help, knowing that he's a
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defensive minded guy. But what, like, you're the head
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coach, man. You have a defensive background.
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You can't get your fucking team to play defense?
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Come on. Yeah, it's really, I mean, a lot
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of it's changed when, I mean, we got away with a lot of stuff in
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the beginning of this season when we went, you know, that won
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those five games. We got a lot of away with it
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because of how the referees called.
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PJ Haggerty. He got a lot of the foul calls.
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He was able to score and get a lot of the other teams in foul
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trouble. Those whistles are drying up and
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he doesn't finish around the basket nearly as well as he was
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at the beginning of the season. So it's, it's like I said, I
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don't remember who it was a couple seasons ago that had the
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green light special and maybe it was Cam Carter, but my God,
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Jerome has seemed to do this with a couple of his guys where
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you give them the green light and you know, they're all
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Americans. But if they don't play well,
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that is a bold strategy because the other guys in the team,
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people fall in line. And if you don't, you don't give
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them the ability to be flexible and able to play their own game
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and be able to be an alpha, It's it's going to fail miserably a
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lot of the times when one player is taken away and nobody else is
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ready to take that that mantle, it it hurts.
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So I hoping going forward that maybe Nate Johnson, David
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Castillo get to be the primary ball handlers, primary, you
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know, focal point of the offense and we can get back to
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distributing the ball from the top down to the bottom and back
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out. So it's it's stuff like that.
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It's just it, it's weird in the costage situation, man, Oh man,
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that that is, it is baffling, Matt.
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It is truly baffling that, you know, you put a lot of hope into
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this Europeans and he's treating Costage as if, you know, he's
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one of these kids from, you know, New York or something that
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just needs his head straightened out or something like that.
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This is a guy that's played professional basketball.
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Like what are we doing? Like?
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I mean, I think it's possible that he was over evaluated.
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I think it's quite possible that.
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Yeah. You know he.
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He has a lot to. Learn but.
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But not ADNP is not how he. How he thought I I agree with
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that. I mean, I he must be just that
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bad in practice to be in a position where you're not even
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getting a minute against Bowling Green in a game that you're
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down. I don't know, you know, the the
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evaluation of these guys that he brought in, obviously, yeah, it
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could be very top heavy. You know, you bring in PJ
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Haggerty, who, you know, is still the leading scorer in the
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country right now. But it's, you know, even I feel
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in the four-game stretch where we lost, he regressed, you know,
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Nebraska game. Yeah, he was really good.
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And then you get to like, the Bowling Green game and the Seton
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Hall game and it's, you know, missing the free throws and, you
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know, he's being, I feel like, too aggressive bringing the ball
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into the pain. And you're putting yourself in a
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bad situation where you think you're going to get a foul, like
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you're trying to draw a foul instead of, you know, trying to
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do other things. But I in the grand scheme of
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things, for me, it's the fundamentals of this team.
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You know, this is a team that turns the ball over the free
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throws. Is it just incredibly bad?
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You know, there are 15 of 35 against Seton Hall, we lost by
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11 points. Bowling Green, we were 55% from
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the line. That is not acceptable, right?
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I, I mean, that is just not acceptable as a, you know, when
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you're trying to win games and those are, those are free
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opportunities where the clock is not running for you to get
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points. And it, it's just crazy to me
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that, you know, you're in a position where, you know, you're
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shooting 43% from the free throw line in a, in a game that, you
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know, for a portion of that game, they were down, but they
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were not out. You know, they were going on
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some runs in this game and they were showing some fight.
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And then you get towards the second-half, you know, back half
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of the second-half and just poor decision making.
24:28
It's just the fundamentals. Like this team just does not
24:31
have that. And, and I do think it just
24:33
stems from, you know, coaching. I I just really think that this
24:39
is going to be a tough watch for a majority of the season, let
24:42
alone Saturday against a Big 12 conference that is extremely
24:47
tough. I mean, not, you know, it's it
24:50
we can't say this conference is top heavy like Oklahoma State's
24:53
10 and O like, you know, they're, you know, they, they
24:57
are on a pretty good run, beating some power conference
24:59
teams along the way. I think it's quite possible like
25:03
we're, you know, we are one of the worst teams in the
25:06
conference again this year. So just very disappointing, very
25:10
disappointing. We've got we've got three more
25:12
months of it, boys, so buckle up.
25:14
I it it, it is coaching I and it is with the fundamentals.
25:19
I mean, Tang doesn't even know how to call a time out, let
25:22
alone get the rotation stuff right like chef is saying.
25:24
So does just do the coaches even understand the fundamentals of
25:27
the game? I'm sure mask Matthew Driscoll
25:29
does, but sure as shit doesn't seem like Tang does.
25:33
And it also feels like a culture problem off the court because
25:36
not only have you had we, we could talk all day about Naquan
25:39
Tomlin and a chore, chore like 2 guys two years in a row get
25:43
dismissed from the team or leave the team prior to New Year's,
25:48
New Year's Eve happening. And I'm seeing the writing on
25:51
the wall now. He's talking about Andre Kostich
25:54
like he's one of these not not a disciplinary problem, but he's
25:58
talking about he's staying up late to FaceTime his friends
26:01
back home in Serbia. And it's like, how do you not
26:04
also have some degree of a, a, a handle on these guys off the
26:09
court? You think this guy's getting
26:11
paid a ton of money to play over here?
26:13
He would have something to play for.
26:15
And why, why are we talking about him getting one hour of
26:17
sleep? Like, what are we doing here?
26:21
Have have some discipline for your guys.
26:24
The the whole thing lacks discipline.
26:26
It lacks the fundamentals from the basketball perspective, the
26:29
body language between some of the star players on the team.
26:31
It's bad again, yet again, this is multiple years in a row now.
26:35
I'm just, I'm sick of seeing it. So I should I bring the bag to
26:40
Omaha with me because I'm going to the game.
26:42
I might bring the bag to Omaha with me.
26:45
I, I'm just, I'm, I'm tired. I'm tired of it.
26:48
I'm tired of it. Anyway, any other thoughts on on
26:51
men's basketball? OK, all right, all right.
26:55
Women's basketball, it's been a mixed bag guys.
26:57
The ladies have some bad losses in teams like South Dakota and
27:01
South Dakota State. You know, South Dakota special
27:04
there for the, for the less, the the greater.
27:07
I'm, I'm going to say the greater Dakota.
27:08
I like South Dakota better than North Dakota.
27:10
But they did get a huge win against #13 Ole Miss, the Bill
27:15
Snyder Classic in Saint Joe on that was on Sunday, if I
27:18
remember right. Are we still hopeful for the
27:22
Lady Cats after a mixed bag of results through the first month
27:26
of the season? I mean, don't ask me, I haven't
27:30
watched. A single.
27:32
All right, I'll go. No.
27:33
Offense. No offense, Absolutely.
27:35
No, you know I the the Ole Miss game was a really good game to
27:43
see the fight in their play. They're coming off 2 straight
27:47
losses, North Carolina and then South Dakota State.
27:53
This is a team that it's going to take some time to gel.
27:56
They're young. They have some transfers that
27:59
are still kind of figuring some things out.
28:02
You know, during that that, you know, there was the stretch with
28:05
some of the losses were Nassia Claussen's wasn't playing.
28:10
I think the South Dakota game, she wasn't playing.
28:15
You know, it's tough. I, I just this is a team that I
28:19
think there maybe maybe there's some unfair expectations because
28:24
you bring in Jordan Spicer, you know, who's, you know, top
28:27
recruit. You have some other really good
28:28
recruits that came in that maybe some expectations were set a
28:33
little bit too high. I think this was going to be a
28:35
little bit of a rebuilding year anyway.
28:38
So the the game on Sunday, I think is really positive.
28:43
Number one, you beat a top 15 team.
28:46
That's going to be helpful if you can make some moves in Big
28:48
12 play. But the problem is, at least
28:52
from a Big 12 perspective, at least for women's basketball,
28:56
you're only going to have a set number of games during Big 12
28:59
play where you're going to be probably playing teams in the
29:02
top 25. For K State right now, looking
29:05
at their schedule, they have four teams out of the 16 games
29:10
that they're going to play that have top 25 teams, Oklahoma
29:14
State, Baylor and then you play Iowa State twice.
29:18
So there aren't a lot of opportunities necessarily to
29:21
build your resume unless you stack up a lot of wins in Big 12
29:24
play, which is going to be what they're going to have to do.
29:26
So the non conference schedule was a little bit tougher for
29:32
them. You know, thinking about it, you
29:35
know, going on the road to Green Bay, a team that made the NCAA
29:37
tournament last year and losing kind of in a heartbreaker there.
29:40
You know, you look at the schedule and it says at Green
29:43
Bay, a loss, you don't really get a lot of input on.
29:47
Oh, actually what that means. You know, Green Bay consistently
29:50
women's basketball is a pretty good team.
29:52
But the South Dakota lost that wasn't great at home.
29:55
Texas A&M, you played at home close, but you lost that game.
30:00
You know, that was a game where K State kind of, you know, came
30:04
back, you know, in the third quarter to to make it a game.
30:08
So this is I, I think for for for people that do watch K State
30:15
basketball or women's basketball or maybe only watch a handful of
30:18
games, this is going to be a little bit of a rebuilding year
30:20
for them. But as Jordan Spicer continues
30:22
to get better, she was really good in the Ole Miss game.
30:25
And, and some of your transfers still continue to get acclimated
30:28
that things things should improve.
30:31
And they do have a European center that's also coming over
30:33
this week as well that I bet we'll see some play during the
30:37
12. So there is the spiel.
30:40
There's the spiel and doubleheader in Omaha this
30:44
weekend, both of the men and women playing at Creighton.
30:47
So the women will be playing on Sunday at 2:30 central time in
30:52
Omaha. That's also going to be on FS1.
30:54
So yeah, if you're making the trip out, make sure you do the
30:58
double dip, do a little double dip there.
31:00
And then their next game starts Big 12 play opening up with TCU
31:04
at TCU, which is going to be number 8th in the country.
31:07
So that's that's going to be a doozy, but should be a good
31:12
five. Ranked teams.
31:14
My bad, I forgot. Yeah.
31:16
I'm not going to say, I'm not even going to say that's a
31:18
litmus test because they're probably going to get beat by
31:20
quite a bit, but it's going to be interesting to see what kind
31:22
of fight they have in that game against TCO.
31:27
Yeah, I guess volleyball, that's like the last thing I want to
31:31
talk about here. They win against San Diego in
31:34
the regional and Lincoln. They lose to the number one team
31:37
in the country in the next match.
31:39
And I watched I watched one of the two matches.
31:42
So I'll and. Straight sets, so how bad?
31:44
Did we lose the? 1st 2 sets were actually pretty
31:48
close until we got to like the 15th point and then Nebraska
31:52
kind of ran away with it. Yeah, OK.
31:55
Well, Nebraska is probably considered, well, the number
32:00
one. They are the number one team in
32:02
volleyball. They are 32 and O, but it's also
32:07
one of the best Nebraska volleyball teams they've had in
32:09
a in a good while and they are consistently good.
32:12
So I thought K State actually played better in the Nebraska
32:16
game than the San Diego game, if that means anything.
32:19
I think that just says about how good Nebraska is.
32:23
But from a volleyball perspective, I've been, I went
32:25
to a couple of games this year. I am proudly sporting a cat's
32:30
volleyball jacket. That you are.
32:32
That I found on Poshmark, I didn't steal it.
32:35
So I just wanted to make sure everybody's aware.
32:37
But they they had a they had a good team this year.
32:43
It was a team that I really feel towards the back half of the
32:46
season really improved and you know, they got some big rank
32:50
wins which really helped him get him to the NCAA tournament.
32:54
I think the big up, you know, beating San Diego, who was
32:57
technically an 8 seed in that bracket was was absolutely an
33:00
upset. So it was really good, you know,
33:03
for K State to to be able to to, to win next year will be very
33:09
interesting just because they lose their best player and then
33:14
they had another player transfer today.
33:16
They're going to have a few players that transfer.
33:18
So it will be interesting. But I do think Jason Mansfield
33:21
is building a really good program.
33:24
You know, this is, I think his third year at K State to make it
33:28
to the NCAA tournament this year, especially after some
33:30
pretty big wins, you know, just shows kind of, you know, how
33:34
he's slowly building the program.
33:36
So it'll be interesting to see how he goes next year.
33:39
Yeah, he's building a good culture, something we can't say
33:42
for the men's side. And and one of the biggest
33:44
talking points for for volleyball coming into this
33:47
season was they didn't have any transfers out last year.
33:51
So incredible to see that roster retention year over year.
33:55
Obviously there are a couple transfers that have already hit
33:57
the portal now, so it's going to be interesting to see if Kenny,
34:00
can you still hold that mostly together and continue to recruit
34:04
at a high level and hopefully fill the void and plug and play
34:07
with some other pieces from the portal with some of the talent
34:09
that's leaving. But that that reeks to me of not
34:13
Reese. It screams to me of good culture
34:16
as opposed to some of the conversations we're having with
34:19
some other teams that are out there.
34:21
The last thing I want to get to you, I'm going to talk about
34:23
championship Week locks. We had our Champ Week locks last
34:26
week and to just quickly recap the week, I let's see, I'll just
34:34
start with me, 37 and 37 overall.
34:37
I went 123-4566 and three last week.
34:41
Matt went 12344 and 12345. You went four and five, right?
34:49
You went four and five. That's what I'm saying.
34:50
And Chef went one and nine, one and eight, one and eight.
34:56
Chef that is not. Chef, what happened?
34:59
I had to take risks. What do you mean?
35:02
I had to try to get back in the game.
35:04
I had to take risks. He did take, he did take 123.
35:11
I went on these small Rd. dogs. You did.
35:16
Take all the road dogs. So it was 9 games, you took five
35:20
favorites. Jam you, jam you won, but they
35:26
just didn't win by 24 points. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:29
We all took that one, but I thought that was obvious.
35:32
Yeah. And then that's why anything I
35:35
think is obvious just do the opposite.
35:37
So. Well, hey, you're going to have
35:39
a bunch of ball games to choose around here.
35:41
I'm. Coming you go anti, you go anti
35:44
chef picks, you're going to win a lot of cash.
35:48
Chef, you are going to have to have a massive, massive bowl
35:52
season to catch up to Bob. Like you're not going to catch
35:55
up to me, but. So says you.
35:59
So says. You How many bowl games are
36:01
there 18? Too many 18.
36:04
They should be doing All Star games.
36:06
They're they're. Doing All Star games in my
36:08
opinion. Yeah.
36:10
They're more than that. But, well, while we're at it,
36:12
should we give Chef another opportunity to maybe close the
36:15
gap here and and pick the Army Navy game this weekend?
36:20
I'm seeing Navy -6 Navy -6 that. Game is always a little little
36:26
crazy. Yeah, and I, I earlier in the
36:31
season, I vowed to not take any more military games and I, I
36:34
said some nasty things about the troops.
36:37
So, so maybe I need to maybe I need to refrain, but I'm I'm
36:44
going to go army in the army be Navy.
36:48
In in Baltimore, huh. I'm going.
36:50
Body more murder land. Body more murder land.
36:54
Navy, Navy, Navy. Yeah, I'm, I'm going to go, I'm
36:57
going to go Navy. Army money line.
37:01
Shout out to shout. Out to Michael.
37:03
Army money line Army money. Line.
37:10
He did win the money line. He did win the money line the
37:12
last time he did. It that tech, that Texas money
37:14
line? You guys laughed.
37:16
He did win that. It's -6 it's -6 right?
37:19
Now, so chefs take an army money line, he said.
37:22
It. It's a verbal contract.
37:25
Oh, my God. All right, all right.
37:27
Chef's taking Army money line then.
37:29
Yeah. Shout out to my paternal
37:30
grandfather, Navy guy. Awesome.
37:33
Well, that's going to do it. That's that's all we have.
37:35
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37:40
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Wait, chef, Chef, did you steal the shorts out of my Lululemon
38:35
package? Because let me tell you, I got
38:37
taken. I ordered stuff from Lululemon.
38:41
I have two shirts and shorts. The shorts were stolen.
38:44
Somebody took the shorts, didn't take the whole package.
38:47
They. You order some Lululemon hoochie
38:49
daddy shorts and they didn't make it.
38:51
They didn't make it crazy. Yeah.
38:55
That's that's, that's definitely FedEx.
38:57
That's not that's. Better yet, better yet, my my
39:03
wife's 100 year old grandma. She sends $25 check to everybody
39:08
every time they have a birthday and Ally's check got stolen out
39:11
of the mail. Her $25 check got stolen out of
39:14
the mail from somewhere between Des Moines, IA and here.
39:19
And Gross and Grove and Grove City in Ohio, that's.
39:23
A little. That's like, see this hat I'm
39:25
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