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Chiefs Superfan Robbed 11 Banks for Game Tickets · Under the Docs

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  Speaker 1: He robbed the banks, so fund all these extravagant trips
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  Speaker 1: that he was taking with his chief fandom.
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  Speaker 2: Under the dogs, Yeah, under the docks, very fag, we're
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  Speaker 2: breaking the locks.
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  Speaker 3: Funny you couldn't they earrasele the shots.
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  Speaker 2: Make the dogs under the docks, under the ducks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: under the docks, under the dogs.
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  Speaker 4: Oh boy, ladies, this is under the docks.
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  Speaker 1: the show. Today we get a little sports ball mixed
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  Speaker 1: with true crime.
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  Speaker 4: Right, what's the best.
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  Speaker 1: That's the best you could get during this Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: time when everybody's just getting their food together, getting around
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  Speaker 1: the TV to watch some commercials. Now, you got foosball
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  Speaker 1: and murder. That's the best stuff.
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  Speaker 5: I love me some sports ball.
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  Speaker 6: This is the brown sports ball, not the orange sports ball.
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  Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, the brownsports ball.
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  Speaker 1: We got chiefs Aholic, a wolf in Chiefs clothing, a
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four film directed by Dylan Cyrs.
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  Speaker 4: This kind of came up on Prime.
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  Speaker 1: It was late last year, so it's kind of on
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  Speaker 1: the cusp of that twenty twenty five stuff we were
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  Speaker 1: doing before this, and we thought it would be fun
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  Speaker 1: to dissect some of these sports documentaries, but not the
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  Speaker 1: typical sports documentary.
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  Speaker 4: We wanted a little extra oomp into in.
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  Speaker 1: This documentary follows a super fan, a Chief super fan.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't know, the Chiefs played for Kansas City.
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  Speaker 1: They're a football team in the NFL. And this is
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  Speaker 1: a super fan that dresses up like a wolf every Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: He's out there and I will say spoiler alert, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm a Raider fan. I like football, I don't like
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  Speaker 1: this team. So let's see where we get into that
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  Speaker 1: plotting the course. So again, this film follows a Chief
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  Speaker 1: super fan, like you're talking about a guy like now,
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  Speaker 1: just to kind of get people into perspective, some of
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  Speaker 1: these tickets that you buy for these games are extronomically expensive.
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  Speaker 4: These these can go from three hundred apiece, So.
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  Speaker 1: When you're going to a playoff game, you're talking five grand,
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  Speaker 1: six grand. I mean, you can go through the list
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  Speaker 1: of super Bowl as it goes from the first super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl the ticket was like five bucks, and now the
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  Speaker 1: Median super Bowl ticket is like sixty five hundred to
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  Speaker 1: eighty five hundred dollars, so it could get pretty pricey.
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  Speaker 1: So right away watching this film, when you're like Dan,
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  Speaker 1: this guy goes to a lot of games.
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  Speaker 4: He must have a lot of money.
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  Speaker 6: Also, I just need a in like a meta way
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  Speaker 6: aside from the documentary, but the mentality of a super fan.
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  Speaker 6: I understand sports ball, right. I understand like wanting to
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  Speaker 6: root for like a certain team. There's like a tribal
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  Speaker 6: aspect to it that we don't really have as much anymore.
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  Speaker 6: People like tribal around like certain things, but when it
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  Speaker 6: comes to a sports team, it's the one commonality that
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  Speaker 6: maybe like geographically people can share. So just go out
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  Speaker 6: to a bar and someone's wearing a jersey of a
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  Speaker 6: team you like, and like a game's on. There's kind
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  Speaker 6: of like this ability to connect to people that otherwise
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't even exist. You have no reason to be like, hey, buddy,
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  Speaker 6: how's it going, you know, So I understand that level
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  Speaker 6: of it.
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  Speaker 5: I also understand when your team's winning and you're at the.
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  Speaker 6: Sports bar and everyone's like going crazy because they're all
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  Speaker 6: wearing the same Like, there's an energy that happens in
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  Speaker 6: that area, right Like in that localized area where you're
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  Speaker 6: everyone's feeding off each other's energy, you're having a good time,
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  Speaker 6: and it's all because it's like some foreign thing where
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  Speaker 6: other people are playing a sport that you're not even
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  Speaker 6: participating and you're just watching it, but you're getting like
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  Speaker 6: hyped from it.
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  Speaker 5: I understand that.
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  Speaker 6: But when it gets into like the super fan or
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  Speaker 6: like a Twitter super fan, or like a Raiders fan
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  Speaker 6: that doesn't even live anywhere near Oakland, right, Like, what
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  Speaker 6: is that?
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  Speaker 5: What makes you want to care at all about that?
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of it comes from also people
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  Speaker 1: wanting to be different, you know how Like when there's
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  Speaker 1: a song that a lot of people like their life
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  Speaker 1: songs trash like and you don't really necessarily think it's trash,
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  Speaker 1: but just because the consensus says it's good, you have
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  Speaker 1: to go the opposite way. Same thing happens in sports
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  Speaker 1: where someone's like, yeah, I know, I live nowhere near Oakland,
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  Speaker 1: never been to California, don't even know that it exists,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm a.
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  Speaker 4: Root for that team.
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  Speaker 1: Because xyz right, because I'm not gonna be the Lions
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  Speaker 1: fan that everybody is in Detroit. I'm not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the Kansas City fan. They want to be different. So
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  Speaker 1: in some of these senses, there's these people that just
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  Speaker 1: stick out like yeah, I'm gonna be this fan. And
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  Speaker 1: then also when things are popular, right, when a team
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  Speaker 1: is good, it's the same thing as people hopping on
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  Speaker 1: the bandwagon of a good song. Like I remember, and
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  Speaker 1: I've probably said this before, but my DMX theory. When
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  Speaker 1: I brought out the DMX album and I was showing
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  Speaker 1: everybody stop drop chute, Oh no, no, Everyone's like, oh
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  Speaker 1: whack whack, trash trash. Then it was on MTV and
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  Speaker 1: then it was on be et as one of the
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  Speaker 1: number one songs. Everybody was listening to it, and they
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  Speaker 1: forgot that I showed them beforehand and they thought it
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  Speaker 1: was trash.
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  Speaker 4: And now they're like, oh, this is the best album
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  Speaker 4: ever heard.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's just a psychological thing that happens
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  Speaker 1: to people.
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  Speaker 6: And let me all end this too, just saying that
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  Speaker 6: I understand that if you're in a city and the
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  Speaker 6: team's doing really well, it's probably like not easy to
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  Speaker 6: just be like, yeah, I'm rooting for I'm like I'm
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  Speaker 6: one of them now, right, just because you happen to
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  Speaker 6: be in that area. And there's nothing but upside to whearing.
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  Speaker 6: If I was in San Antonio, right and the Spurs
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  Speaker 6: were doing great, Like if I put on a Spurs shirt,
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  Speaker 6: like I get hyped up, you know, just for having
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  Speaker 6: a shirt on. It's like there's this reinforcement angle of it.
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  Speaker 6: When we talk about this documentary and like the super
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  Speaker 6: fan and the person that's dropping eight grand I also
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  Speaker 6: now know that there's another angle to it. Some people
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  Speaker 6: really love the sports just because they're degenerate gamblers, and
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  Speaker 6: that's really what it is. It's like it's a justification
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  Speaker 6: to be a degenerate gambler.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this film focuses a lot on that, and
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  Speaker 1: especially now because this is it's easier to be a
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  Speaker 1: degenerate gambler. You don't got to drive to Vegas, you
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  Speaker 1: don't gotta fly to Vegas. You just turn on your
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  Speaker 1: phone and you go, let me set up a parlay.
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  Speaker 1: So it's easy to start betting five dollars, twenty dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Now one hundred people have my job, man, Regular people
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  Speaker 1: are gambling like that, just like, I mean, I gambled
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  Speaker 1: a little bit too, but I'm talking about people dropping
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  Speaker 1: five hundred dollars like O ho, I'm betting my check
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  Speaker 1: that this guy better catch the ball. And I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough way to live, bro fun
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  Speaker 1: tough way to live.
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  Speaker 5: This guy did okay with it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he did all right. Xavier Bardoza.
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  Speaker 1: He the major claim in this film is that he
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  Speaker 1: robbed the banks to fund all these extravagant trips that
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  Speaker 1: he was taking with his chief fandom and and they
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  Speaker 1: kind of like tag you along throughout the film trying
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  Speaker 1: to place him at these bank robberies and as they
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  Speaker 1: go along, because it's cool in this film because they
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  Speaker 1: actually interview him right like why he's going to court
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought that was really cool that we get.
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  Speaker 1: His insight and he kind of claims his fireback is
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  Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, no, I wasn't robbing banks. Always
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  Speaker 1: just doing really good at the casino. I was really
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  Speaker 1: good at sports betting, And you're like, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like you kind of like you're right there,
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  Speaker 1: And they do show some of his bets, like oh,
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  Speaker 1: I bet like that's where it really gets exciting to
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  Speaker 1: your point, like, Okay, you're cheering on the team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's great to be that camaraderie. It's great to be like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my city's good, or I'm loyal to this team.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a lot greater feeling when you're like I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to win fifty g's, I'm about to win twenty g's.
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  Speaker 1: Like that feeling is where you're actually participating in winning
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 6: And I guess that that's the guys that are getting
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  Speaker 6: real hypher, that are real mad when that field goal
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  Speaker 6: gets missed. It might not even be the lifer that
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  Speaker 6: just has bummed that his team's not doing well. It's
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  Speaker 6: someone that's gonna have to go and rob up four
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  Speaker 6: or five more banks now so they can pay the buckey.
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  Speaker 1: And they started connecting him to these eleven robberies across
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  Speaker 1: seven states, netting eight hundred thousand dollars. And the funniest
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  Speaker 1: part to me because even before like I saw this documentary,
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  Speaker 1: I saw the headlines and I'm like, this guy rob
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  Speaker 1: the banks with the thing that he wears to the games,
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  Speaker 1: Like maybe now the brightest bulb in the in the
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  Speaker 1: box because they're like, yeah, he greater.
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  Speaker 4: Wolf or Chief Wolf or like you if you're one of.
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  Speaker 1: These characters, because also people that don't know sports, and
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  Speaker 1: it doves into the film of this is that these
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  Speaker 1: characters become famous amongst the fans, right, they are like
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  Speaker 1: the guys leading the way of their people are looking
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  Speaker 1: up to them, Like, this guy's gonna paint his face
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  Speaker 1: all crazy every game and get wild and crazy.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna follow him, so we get it.
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  Speaker 1: He gets a huge following just for being at all
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  Speaker 1: these games and sticking out by being dressing in a
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  Speaker 1: wolf costume.
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  Speaker 6: And this is where maybe I stop understanding, Like I
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  Speaker 6: understand all those other aspects of like coming together around
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  Speaker 6: a team, but this guy becomes almost a folk hero
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  Speaker 6: for basically just posting positive things about the team Chiefs
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  Speaker 6: are gonna win to day, go Chiefs, and then wearing
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  Speaker 6: a wolf costume and then showing up at like all
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  Speaker 6: these games, and then people are like, wow, this guy's
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  Speaker 6: investing a lot of time, money, and effort into being
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  Speaker 6: this wolf, you know, super fan, and then they become
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  Speaker 6: fans of the super fan.
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  Speaker 5: That's where that's where my logic breaks down. I don't
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  Speaker 5: get it. But you know, more power to them.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'm with you on that, Like I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand the aspect of it, but I think that's just
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  Speaker 1: where I don't know why. I think some of his
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  Speaker 1: bets that he was posting gets funny memes like I
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  Speaker 1: get that for a while, but like they want to
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  Speaker 1: take pictures with this guy. They want Hey man, that's
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  Speaker 1: a chiefs soholic man, you know, like people I've never
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  Speaker 1: got that. I'm also not starstruck by anybody. Like if
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  Speaker 1: there's people like I like in the music industry or
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  Speaker 1: in sports or someone like I respect, I'll go, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate your work.
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  Speaker 4: Handshake cool. I'm good if that right.
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  Speaker 1: But other people are very easily struck by fandom, and
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  Speaker 1: then they're like.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, take a bitture with me, man, sign this.
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  Speaker 1: And these characters become huge. It's almost like he's an
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  Speaker 1: influencer now. Like you said, it's not like he's coming
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  Speaker 1: with crazy insight. He's just like, hey, man, I think
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  Speaker 1: we could win this game, and people are like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this all this.
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  Speaker 4: Man, That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not like breaking down analytics and like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, seventy five percent of the time the team
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  Speaker 1: runs the ball and does this, he's just like, we
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  Speaker 1: gotta win this bro beating his chest.
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  Speaker 4: And then people are just loving it.
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  Speaker 1: So it is an interesting aspect of this film for
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  Speaker 1: people that are not into the sports world to kind
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  Speaker 1: of get a view of how people, cause you see
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  Speaker 1: other super fans throughout this film that like they have
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  Speaker 1: all the memorabilia and they stick together and they start
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  Speaker 1: claiming like they're like, hey, you know, I go to
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  Speaker 1: the games, but I'm like, I can't go all the games.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty pricey, right, And they're like this guys going
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  Speaker 1: on all the games and we're all wondering who he is,
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  Speaker 1: and he come to find out, he creates this fake
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  Speaker 1: persona of who he is and telling people that like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he makes his money here and that he.
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  Speaker 4: That he went to a college.
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  Speaker 1: And then it turns out he went to Kansas State,
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  Speaker 1: but like that he was telling people that he I
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  Speaker 1: think he told people he went to Kansas University or
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  Speaker 1: something like that in Kansas City, but he went to
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  Speaker 1: another I don't think he even graduated or anything, but
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  Speaker 1: he claimed to be in the lum And then as
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  Speaker 1: the film goes on, you also find out that oh,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's like living in his car, driving around the country,
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  Speaker 1: supposedly just going to games. But then they start mapping
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  Speaker 1: out the evidence of like, oh, well he was here
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  Speaker 1: and this bank was wrong.
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  Speaker 4: He was here and then this bank was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to get your ask, your take on when
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  Speaker 1: they're start talking about the bank robberies and they're linking
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  Speaker 1: to him where he expresses that he's nothing to it, right,
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  Speaker 1: I started.
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  Speaker 4: Believing him a little bit. And again I don't really
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  Speaker 4: like that team, but.
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  Speaker 1: I felt he was genuine And then like later on
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  Speaker 1: the film, I felt a little different. But at the
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  Speaker 1: time where they're breaking it down, how did you feel
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  Speaker 1: about his innocence or him being guilty?
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  Speaker 5: I thought he was guilty right away.
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  Speaker 6: As soon as soon as the accusation came up this
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  Speaker 6: guy is probably robbing banks to get this money. Everything
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  Speaker 6: clicked immediately because even though his alibi, I guess, was, oh,
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  Speaker 6: I'm just killing it on all these bets, he himself
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  Speaker 6: even says, like any real gambler knows that a gambler
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  Speaker 6: doesn't share all their bets, they only share certain ones.
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  Speaker 6: And to me, that was him telling on himself, letting
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  Speaker 6: you know, like, yeah, I've told you about all these
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  Speaker 6: great bets that I've won, but I haven't told you
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  Speaker 6: about like the ten x that I've lost over the time.
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  Speaker 6: And in fact, there was this one right where he
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  Speaker 6: lost eighty grand in one bet that didn't pan out
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  Speaker 6: for him, and then the next step was that he's
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  Speaker 6: robbing banks to make another bet so that he can
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  Speaker 6: flip that money to turn into one ten. It's like,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, man, Like the thirty grand difference between
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  Speaker 6: just not placing that eighty grand bet originally and now
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  Speaker 6: you just got eighty grand in the banks and go
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  Speaker 6: and buy that house you keep talking about, but the
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  Speaker 6: down payment, like the opportunity to do all of these
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  Speaker 6: things with the money, and they don't really show if
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  Speaker 6: you're this successful businessman, You've got all these contracts you've
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  Speaker 6: been you know, this has got a career that's funding this.
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  Speaker 6: You would expect and like and here I am at
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  Speaker 6: the shop and here I am doing business. And it's
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  Speaker 6: the exact opposite of that. So the second the accusation
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  Speaker 6: comes up that this guy's a degenerate gambler and he's
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  Speaker 6: robbing banks to fund his gambling and the sports, then.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't really need to be sold beyond that.
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  Speaker 1: And in Oklahoma there was a bank robbery at a
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  Speaker 1: teacher's credit union or something like that. And this is
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  Speaker 1: the turning point because then it's like, oh, we caught him.
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  Speaker 4: He was riding his bike.
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  Speaker 1: So it turns out that he's going to all these
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  Speaker 1: different hotels and he had a car, but he has
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  Speaker 1: a bike attached to the car, right, and he's robbing
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  Speaker 1: banks and then riding his bike back.
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  Speaker 4: To where it not a bad idea, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: quick getaway.
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  Speaker 1: They arrest him and then it's like he's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well I rob that bank right yet, but not the
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  Speaker 1: other ones. And then they start putting the evidence together
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  Speaker 1: like yeah, this guy was doing it. And you see
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  Speaker 1: his lifestyle as you alluded to, not only his gambling,
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  Speaker 1: but these tickets he's buying for these playoff games, these
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  Speaker 1: like super important games like these are pricey, These are expensive.
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  Speaker 1: Most regular fans don't even go to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these games because you can go to the eight games
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  Speaker 1: that is in your city or your town, because you
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  Speaker 1: can buy season tickets where hey, I'm buying for three grand,
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  Speaker 1: four grand, I'm buying eight tickets right up front before
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  Speaker 1: everybody else. But these playoff tickets, they're expensive and you
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  Speaker 1: don't get a chance. You don't know if your team's
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  Speaker 1: going to be in the playoffs, so you don't get
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  Speaker 1: to buy it until they come out. So him to
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  Speaker 1: be able to go all these games and the seats
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  Speaker 1: that he was sitting at and going to new stadiums,
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  Speaker 1: different stadiums, to me, it was obvious that he was
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  Speaker 1: robbing banks. And then you get towards the end and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this was He's full of shit the
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  Speaker 1: whole time. Man, this guy's just talking out his ass
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  Speaker 1: and he's been robbing these banks, and then you kind
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  Speaker 1: of go, how the hell did he get away with it?
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  Speaker 4: He's not the he doesn't seem like the smartest guy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he I guess it's where we go back
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  Speaker 1: to like the wild whites of West Virginia, Like there's
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  Speaker 1: different types of smart, right, maybe on the outside you
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  Speaker 1: don't you don't see it, But I mean, he was
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: smart enough to get away with eleven robberies before.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: I don't know I would say bold. He was bold
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: to do it. I don't know if it was necessarily smart.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: I think if anything, and I'll I kind of like
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: skip to the end of the review here, But like,
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: my biggest takeaway is how easy it is to rob banks.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: At least or it was.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is what ten years ago, or is
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: this like fairly recent that the last one that he did, Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: This was fairly recent because it was the last one
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: was I think in twenty twenty two.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: Damn, So even in twenty twenty two, it's that easy
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: to actually rob the bank is the easy part. The
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: hard part is getting away with it for the rest
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: of your life because it's going to be on someone's
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: desk or in some file, someone's gonna dig it up
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: and use new technology or whatever. So it's it's almost
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: like you're putting yourself on a timeline where eventually you're
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: gonna get caught. And this guy just kept pressing his
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: luck like it was his job. He like, I could
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: imagine doing this two or three times, hitting like a
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: huge payday on gambling, and then being like, all right,
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: I guess we're packing it in. But I also can
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: understand how that never happens because you're like, you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: I'll never get caught.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna live forever, I'm gonna get rich.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Hidden treasures and overboard moments.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I thought some of the hidden treasures is the actual
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: psychology about this sports betting, because even though I like
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: sports and I have a good time with my family's
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: sitting around this gambling stuff is getting out of control.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: And this is what I focus mainly on this film,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: is like, this guy is so much in depth from gambling.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he loves the team.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I get all that paying for these expensive tickets and
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: he's in love with the fame. But it really seemed
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: like it's like, oh, these new bookies, these digital bookies
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: are getting people bad, and people are so bad that
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: they're robbing banks to like stay afloat.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: I really like your comparison to the Wild Whites of
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: West Virginia because it's just a little different. It's just
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: like you took the exit right before that exit to
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: get off, and you see this kind of behavior that's
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: going on because it's not just the bank robber, right,
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: It's not just the chief aholic guy. It's all the
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: fans that like love him and that are enabling him.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: It's even and like my hidden treasure on this one,
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna be really superficial, right, very surface level, but
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: the bail bondsman is like he desre's his own documentary
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: because I want to understand what the hell this guy's
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: going through. He sees the Chief Saholic get arrested or
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: accuse him being a bank robber, he buys the BS
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: story two. Oh, they must have the wrong guy, right,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: And from what I stand, he puts up eighty k
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: at stake of his own money because this Chief sahalt
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: guy's got nothing in order to bond him out. And
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: is it like a promotional reason or something?
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: But the and the.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Guy dips right, he immediately like after he hits something
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: real big. He hits that one hundred and ten or
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty K bet and then all of
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: a sudden he pops off the map and then go
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: and check out. And in the hotel room he was
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: staying at, you can see the ankle bracelets cut off.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: It's in the corner. And the guy starts freaking out.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: He's like, I'm gonna be on the hook for this
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: eighty K. I'm gonna lose my license. How can not
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: the cops not have found this guy already? And I'm
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: just want to like, bro, you're the one that bailed
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: this dude out, you're the one that actually like made.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: All of this happen.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: And also the freaking wig that this dude is wearing,
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: the two pay this dude is wearing is so over
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: the top. Whenever he's on the screen, I can't not
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: think about how horrible the two pay looks. I'm sorry, well,
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: I like it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: The aspect of he's mad about what happened, right first
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: thing in the whole time is like, I'm helping this
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: kid out.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I'm a good guy.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: It seemed like he was like, I'm gonna being part
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of this documentary and people are gonna think I'm a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: good guy. And then as he leaves, he's you see
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: him turn on one to eighty in real.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Time where he's like, oh man, this guy's a piece
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: of crab. Man, can't believe he did this to me.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: And then he's even like get out.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Like the true came out of my face, and then.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Like he actually they do catch him, but it's just
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: to see that surreal moment of where he's like, yeah, no,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just a good guy.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to help somebody out. And then he's like
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I hate all of you.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I hope you die. I'm about to lose eighty K.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: He is not happy. And that's a real emotion to me.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: What it looks like.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: Between the bad two pay bill bondsman guy, between the
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: actually the actual chiefs, the hall guy, and then the
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: bank teller, the bank one of the bank tellers of
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: all these banks. He hit this one lady. And I'm
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: not gonna like belittle her claims. I might question them,
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: but that she's like, I'm traumatized. I can't ever work again.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: I need eleven million dollars now because he put a
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: fake gun to my head in a real bank robbery,
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: and now like I shake when I think about going
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: back to work.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: I have believe it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: Whatever, But here's what ends up happening, right the chiefs,
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: A holid guy gets caught eventually, and then he pleads guilty.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: He actually just admits to all of it. His lawyer
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: goes on to turn that into a bunch of funny
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: memes and stuff. He's like throwing out silly football analogies,
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: like it might not have been a touchdown this time,
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: but you know, like it's just like so we're maybe
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: we lost a coin flip, but we're gonna go ahead
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: and follow this three two minutes.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Left in the fourth quarter, and we're gonna get that,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: like it's.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: And then and then there's also this other layer.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: They have interviews with a whole bunch of different people
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: that were just fans at the time this was going on,
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: no real insight, no real play whatsoever in the overall story.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Just here's another six people to get some clips of
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: them talking about all this stuff. And some of them
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: it was just like a reminder, Like there was this
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: one lady. She's like, I just didn't want him to
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: be guilty, you know, like like he was our Robin hood.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: And first I thought, like he wasn't given money to anybody, right,
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: he was just straight robbing banks and spending it on
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: himself and putting it in gambling. But that there are
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: people that just straight up make the team sport their
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: entire life and personality, because I guess there's just nothing
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: a halt not allows the kick anchor to. So when
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: this super fan comes through, now, it's like, oh, here's
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: a version of someone that likes the team that I've
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: actually got some kind of connection to.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: He might tweet me back on Twitter.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: I might see him at the game and give me
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: DAPs the players aren't doing that. The players are like
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: at their own level, you're never gonna give I mean
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: maybe if they're like going by onto the field, but
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: you're not having a drink with the player after the
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: game in a bar ever, right like they go to
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: their own special bar. You might see this guy. So
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: it was just to rely again. The Wildwifes of West
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: Virginia great analogy here because instead of doing meth and
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: selling oxies, they're basically robbing banks and going to football games.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah it stuff, and some of the over more moments
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: is the teller. To me, I'm gonna braid her a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: little bit because I get tired of while I'm watching it,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: she's just like I fear for Like I get it,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: like I know things can happen, but the way she
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: tells the story, it just doesn't add up to me.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: It sounds like you don't want to work and you
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: found a loophole that you think you're gonna get away,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: like where you're like, oh, I'm just gonna get a
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: eleven million and I'm good, I never have to work again.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: That's how I That's how I see it.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: She got it right.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: She got the judgment, but now it's like, Okay, good
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: luck getting this eleven million dollars from a dude that's
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: in jail and his mom is living in a car,
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: and they're just and there's so many wild things that
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: don't add up in this. For example, when the bail
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: bondsman goes and they he puts trackers under the car,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: and then he gets a hint or a tip that hey,
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: they traded it out. Now they got this gold car,
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: and he goes and he puts a tracker on that thing.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: And while they're and they keep going to like walmarts
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: and targets.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: I still don't.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: Understand that maybe it was just buying like prepaid credit
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: cards or something. But they're going to all these walmarts
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: and targets. And at one point when she goes in,
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: maybe they're doing gas station showers or something, you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: truck stop showers, and she leaves the car. He goes
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: through all of her stuff, and then she like leaves
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: completely for like three or four days, but in the
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: car she leaves like five grand in cash, and like
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: all this evidence and stuff didn't even lock the doors.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: So I don't like the claim of like, yeah, maybe
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: this guy's secretly a genius. I don't know, man. The
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: biggest overboard moment was that dude's to pay bro.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: It's about that time. Sink or swim.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm gonna pass it back to you. I
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: want to see what you think.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I give it a swim because it was entertaining, even
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: though there's like moments where you're like, oh, man, this
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: seems a little fabricated, but they do seem like real characters.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And then you see like the mom and Xavier and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: his little like they're like, oh, they may be like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a drug infested family that just is gypsies that just
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: travel the world and do whatever they can to get money,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and then they just so happen also like football. So
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to me, it's a good watch. It's entertaining. Maybe it's
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: not the biggest swim, but it gets a swim for me.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna give this a sink, man. I think your
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: bias is at play here. That's fine.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: I think that this could have been a forty minute
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: TV episode. It didn't need to be a two hour documentary.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of fluff with talking to other super
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: fans just about Yeah, man, I love the Chiefs like,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: all right, thanks for taking five minutes in my data
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: include that guy's interview in this documentary.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: And I guess the biggest one though, is it was entertaining.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: I don't regret watching this entire thing, and I do
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: recommend if you're even vaguely interested in this topic you'll
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: like it. But it didn't really change any kind of worldview.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna forget everyone's name that came up in this documentary.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna forget most of this except for A the
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: dude's two pey and B that there was some mascot
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: on some team somewhere that robbed banks.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: And that's kind of much my takeaway.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: And I don't feel like I learned about a new
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: type of person that's out there.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I feel like I know people like.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: This I probably, which is why when you were asking first, yeah,
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: did you believe it?
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Did you think he was guilty?
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: It's like, nah, bro, this guy used to live with
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: me in like two thousand and three in South Texas,
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: Like I know this dude.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: No, he's not telling the truth.
• 26:51
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• 29:20
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• 29:22
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• 29:25
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• 29:27
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• 29:27
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• 29:39
  Speaker 8: because evading, whatever the costs, they are the shape shifting
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• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Be all the blunt spoke. For real, Lord, give me
• 30:03
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• 30:04
  Speaker 8: They can't they wait around that hate. Whatever they say, man,
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: it's not in the least bit. We get heavy rotate
• 30:11
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• 30:13
  Speaker 8: niggas for real, You welcome.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: They ain't ever had a deal.
• 30:17
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• 30:20
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