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La presentadora de Atresmedia Angie Rigueiro: “Deja de demostrar y pasa a mostrarte como eres” · Autoras de palabra con Rosa

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You probably wondered why you don' t feel happy or if the life you
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have is really the one you want. You may not really know what you
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want, but you really don' t like the life you' re leading
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how to achieve your goals. I don' t think we' ve asked
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this many times, but we don' t get out of there. Well,
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Angie Rigueiro, in word authors with pink welcome, a pleasure, a
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privilege to be here with you. It really seems to me that I'
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m fulfilling dreams I' ve never imagined. So, thanks, maybe it
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was one of your goals, yeah, one of my blankets, but look,
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don' t believe it. To me writing a book was such a
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spectacular thing that you didn' t believe it was one of the goals I
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had the most. I mean, just like I' m a journalist and
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I was always clear that I wanted to communicate and when I started on TV
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and I said that I wanted to communicate in a program. The book has
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been one thing that has taken my life and I say it a lot in
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the book. You have to know what you want, but then also be
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open to the surprises that life gives you and let flow. And I let
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myself flow. I started studying Coachin and psychology while continuing my work and I
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continued my work as a journalist and presenter and a book emerged. So I
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think it' s up to a goal that I' m enjoying more because
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I didn' t have it as much in mind as others. How to
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achieve your goals so something suddenly can the person who reads it will say good.
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Let' s see. I have this dream, but this, what
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I think and what I want is unattainable. But you say very well that
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you have to lower your dreams to the ground and have a head. I
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mean let' s see, you have to have goals, but with your
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feet on the ground never better. Yes, one of the things that,
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in fact, I think even on the second or third page I already say
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with such a reader. I don' t want you to take me as
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a smoke- pig, because I' m aware that these books, sometimes
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of coacting psychology, have a little bit, because that as there is in
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the magic formula and I' m very honest in that sense. I didn
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' t wish I had a magic formula that would make people happy, I
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would have the greatest power anyone has in this world. But yes, it
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' s true that there are tools and one of my goals with the book
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was from the beginning, since you' re reading it. Have practical tools
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and exercises that you can put into practice from the minute one that you read
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the book in your day to day, to change the brain, to have
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a better life, with higher quality, happier. In short, and then
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I design the method because it seemed very important to me to bring the children
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down, as you said, because the theory is very good. Knowing what
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you want is fundamental, but how we do it and hence the title.
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I knew that in the title I had to see how it had to be
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how the reader sanded well. I mean, here I' m going to
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find tools to get what I want. Let' s go with that one.
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As you talk about many things, among others, about the brain.
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It is true that the brain is not designed to be happy, it is
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designed to survive. Another thing is how you educate him, train him,
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or feed him. Indeed, the brain is not designed, as you rightly
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say, to be happy, but to survive. Because if we see evolution,
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we come, because imagine with a reptilian brain that we inherit from as
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its own name indicates, not from reptiles. Then the emotional brain, that
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is, if we see evolution, we have been homosapian for a few years,
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although we feel that yes, the brain still has years to know that
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if you get kicked out of the job that if you argue with a friend
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with your partner, it can be hard. I' m not saying no,
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but we' re all gonna agree that your life isn' t in
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danger. The brain is still taking all the day- to- day dramas
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as if the lion is eating you We still have that lack of evolution.
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But it' s the brain we have. You have to understand, and
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from there it' s when you can start tame him. So I in
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the book what I say is we' ve started. This is like a
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car in the perfect state of being. You must be the one driving to
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the car and your brain has to be the copilot to guide you and help
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you. What happens that in this society, we human beings often give the
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role of driver to us. Mind, then we go like headless chicken,
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autopilot and then in the book. So, I kind of want people to
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say come on, I' m going to Tope, I' m going
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back to taking the reins of my life, and I' m going to
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be the head of my brain, because that' s where the brain starts
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to play in your favor. Five habits. Tell me one, it seems
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easy. Five habits to help us our daily motivation. We' re going
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with one of them. The first, for me, many people say well,
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the dream is fundamental. For me it is the most important habit to
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rest well, you regenerate brains, level nervous system and more with the stress
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that we people have. Fundamental rest well and for that routine of sleep.
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I always say it the day begins not when the alarm clock rings, but
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when you go to bed. It' s very important. Second habit,
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move. You' re already playing sports, now, so I' m
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putting on honor plates is that, besides, a defender of doing sports,
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but at least moving, because there I can also talk to you about the
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evolutionary theme. We' re used to being nomads to moving. So,
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now, all of a sudden, in the last hundred years we' ve
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done more with a sedentary life, but the body isn' t ready for
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that. That' s why it' s important to move and then,
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of course, food, meditation and the one that I like the most to
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enjoy every day you have something that you like, because that' s going
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to change the chemistry of the body. That' s very important. There
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' s one very interesting thing you say we' re hyperactive. It'
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s true. I' ll include myself. I' m very imperactive.
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But maybe with that hyperactivity, with that being always doing things. What we
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' re doing is not stopping to really think about what we don' t
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totally like. That' s what happens to us in this society. Look
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in this book It arises because I am a very cheerful person. I recognize
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it, but that to me, as I have always felt as much joy,
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it was difficult for me to be sad and the pain is inevitable,
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necessary, necessary. There are more difficult biographies than others, of course,
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but we' ve all had batches, we' ve all had in our
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traumas. What happens if you don' t connect to pain. You'
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re missing your evolution. Why. Because pain is inevitable, suffering is not,
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but pain is. You' re not gonna be able to control things
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happening to you in your life. It' s part of life. But
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when you connect with the pain, it gives you a lot of information and
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to me that was the click of my life. I connected in a hard
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time with pain instead of turning your back on being overactive, starting to get
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out, because in the end, when you don' t want to feel
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hurt, what do you do come out with friends impulsively you take refuge at
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work. People are addicted to work many times because they don' t want
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to stand up to what happens to them. The biggest step of courage is
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to connect with that pain and see what it is telling you, because,
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like physical pain, it tells you for emotional pain. He' s telling
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you something in your life. It' s not going well, as much
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as you want to make it right. Then, of course, I say
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so. Pain is inevitable, suffering, no, because then the human being
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is like this. He doesn' t want to connect with the pain,
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but since he doesn' t connect the inner void, he gets bigger.
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Then end in the end suffering, depressive pictures, 21st century, Western world
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diseases of pressure and anxiety. So I think one very nice thing that I
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' m doing with my son is to teach him, since he' s
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small to connect with pain, that sadness is also part of life. It
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is an emotion more like anger, fear and joy, because when you live
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it, it is when you can transform it many people deny it and say
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no. No. I' m happy. Things happen to me and I
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deny it is a lie. The inner void is bigger every day and no
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one can escape into the inner void, that is, no one if you
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want to live a full life. Sure, sure. I can no longer
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agree with happiness, light happiness, because in the end we live in a
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society in which it has been a little distorted. The term happiness. For
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many people to be happy is to be happy all the time. I'
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m saying it was a few years ago for me, too. That is
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not happiness, of course, if happiness is understood as instant pleasure, that
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is something else. Happiness is serenity, peace with oneself. Being calm and
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sometimes you' re happy in moments of even pain, because throughout the day
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you have many emotions, you' re sad, you' re afraid,
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you' re angry, you' re happy, but you can still be
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happy if you' re okay with yourself. What about the happiness of light,
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the famous dopamine. We' re at a time when we have dopamine
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levels and I don' t even include very high levels. dopamine is the
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hormone of pleasure. I call it the hormone of illusion, because many times
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more than pleasure itself is also because you' re excited about something. In
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fact, that' s why it' s the hormone. When you fall
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in love, you' re excited about the project you can do with that
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person. What is the problem that dopamine lasts very little. Dopamine is,
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for the high is a high. Indeed, dopamine lasts little. He always
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wants the novelty. People with very high dopamine levels have difficulty finding a partner.
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They have difficulty being happy in their work. And I recognize that,
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for example, I had high dopamine levels until I started working hard at work.
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I got a TV reporter. I already wanted one more point, I
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got to be a presenter, I wanted more a magazine, when I had
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the magazine to do my own company, until I stopped and said that dopamine
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the motto is always more and more and never to be in the present moment.
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And one thing is like that. Happiness understood as serenity and inner peace
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only does it live and can be experienced in the here in the now?
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Dopamine is never in the here at the time, it' s always in
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the future. So it' s important that people know that that happens to
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us to be the ones who say not here I stop it and here I
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value what' s happening to me and in the end, being in the
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here in the now is embracing life. It is the present moment with all
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its imperfections, because what happens is that dopamine is like the illusion of always
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the perfect. But of course, you know a guy you love and when
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it' s no longer the novelty, if you don' t embrace the
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relationship with all its imperfections, then you leave it and want another. But
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that other one' s gonna stop being the novelty. And that' s
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like we' re going in a lot of ways. Serotonin, serotonin,
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on the other hand, is the hormone of happiness understood as serenity, peace,
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interior, calm and only lived in the here in the now. What
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happens when we have very high dopamine levels, paradoxically, makes serotonin unable to
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activate it. That' s why, when we' re all the time
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wanting to get out you drink alcohol to run away from your inner void,
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I don' t tell you if you' re going to the substances anymore.
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You' re working. You always want more and more not to activate
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serotonin. And serotonin really is life. It' s just that if you
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don' t activate it, life goes by, because serotonin is here and
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now. But of course it is accepting that in the here in the now,
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there are times that life is not perfect. And that' s what
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it takes for human beings to accept and there we' re educating the right
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brain. And so, for example, I talk a lot about meditation,
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neuroscientific- based visualization, to make the brain more and more at the present
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moment acceptance and attitude. If we accept what happens to us, we are
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refusing to get those changes, not at all, because that is to accept
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when I speak it in the book, we have to accept things that do
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not depend on us. Most things are ninety- five percent, ninety-
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nine percent of life. You can' t control her. You can'
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t control that at work you' re not going to get fired. You
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can' t do with, you can do things to make you have a
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fuller life, but life is like that. Life is full of contingencies.
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So, when we accept them, it' s the first step in transforming
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them. I always say that everything you resist then persists acceptance. Conversely,
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acceptance is not conformism. Acceptance, I mean, I can' t change
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this. Another thing. It is the only thing that does depend on us,
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which is the attitude with which you take what happens to you in life.
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That' s the only thing that' s up to you. I
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' m gonna split up how I take it, what I' m gonna
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do. I get kicked out of this job, I get changed how I
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' m gonna take it. And for me the attitude is the one that
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differentiates full and successful lives to lives in the background where the person has created
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a character. The emotions are very important. When we speak emotions, we
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are not referring to emotions. I' m going to say good or make
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us feel pleasure pleasant emotions. There are also emotions of pain, yes,
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you have to know how to manage them as well. Yes, because emotions
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that are good, because surprise, joy, fear, sadness and anger there
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are emotions. So the great psychologists in this 20th century have postulated as the
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primary emotions. They' re all necessary. The emotion is not controlled.
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I always say don' t think about an elephant to Rosa what you'
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re probably thinking about an erphan rum is that it' s true is that
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to me, when I always say it, people ever stay tell me well,
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no no Rosa, I say it was an elephant, because it is.
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The emotion is the same. The emotion you' re not sad.
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If you' re sad. You' re sad. It' s one
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thing you can' t control. What you can do is transform it.
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And for that it' s very important. Okay, well, I'
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m sad. I feel the sadness you want to tell me. This sadness.
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I, when I' ve heard what emotions meant to me, have
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made the best decisions of my life. I' ve heard I' m
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sad about this job and I' ve decided changes and I' m talking
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about it in the book. At a time when I worked seven days in
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a row, I made a diary of the emotions and realized that it was
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costing me a lot, that is, that the weekend was already shattered.
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I didn' t see my son and the emotions were being very negative.
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Instead of refusing to listen to them, I listened to them and made a
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decision and made decisions and those decisions. Sometimes it' s quitting, but
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when you listen to emotion, you can make good decisions when more than listening
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to yourself, it' s time to say. I' m going to
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listen to myself, but how do we find that moment? I in the
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book I say I have a date with myself and I think we forget a
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lot about ourselves, my friends, they laugh Uh, I' m not
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going to have a date with myself. Then they laugh not at all.
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I just have her every month and a half is a date where I see
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myself in a coffee shop. I always go to it, I love it,
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I put on my helmets, I listen to music, I go with
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my notebook, sometimes with my mobile phone, sometimes with the computer, and
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I see how my life is, the areas of my life, the priorities
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of my life, And it' s just that it' s information,
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Or is that many times we go so fast, so on autopilot that we
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don' t wonder how my life is. I' m giving priority to
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what' s important and it' s really nice to have that date with
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yourself and, in fact, I don' t even get too long.
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I made my way to Santiago alone, I went to Egypt alone, I
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have made trips alone in which for me they have been fundamental moments of completely
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changing the course of my life. And I think a date with you is
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the same as being alone. People are so scared. Being alone is very
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scary because, of course, you get a lot of information and sometimes decisions
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are hard. But, well, I think when you knock down walls,
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when you connect with those parts, a very authentic life comes to you.
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I just don' t change for anything the life I' m living now
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compared to a few years ago. You set a very nice example and I
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think that you decided to jump from the fish tank of muddy water stuck to
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that clean water tank that was right next door, but that there' s
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a very small space of time where you come out of one side and jump
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to the other, where there' s a thing that we call panic.
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So because we know what we want to do. I think 90% of
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the population I' m included in, I know what I want to change,
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but I don' t dare. I give the example of the fish
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tank, but I think it is very representative. I mean, people are
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like that fish in terrible shady water and you want to change your life,
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you want to jump into the clean fish tank, but of course, you
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' re going to have to be a few seconds that are going to be
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complicated and difficult. So, many times humans, when we' re jumping
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and we' re running out of breath, like the fish when they jump
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the clean fish tank, we go back to the cloud and you know you
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' d have a better life and you' re conscious, but you don
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' t know how to manage yourself at that moment without being able to breathe.
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That' s what happens to humans, and that' s why I
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always try to change. You' re going to have times when you'
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re going to have to face the hardest parts of yourself, you' re
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going to have to forgive yourself, you' re going to have to be
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compassionate, but you' re going to grow up and you' re going
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to start to stop having the character that all people have been building over the
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years. But logically, we are in a society in which perhaps we have
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been poorly educated. We talked about it with the pain to have those seconds
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of uneasiness of not being able to breathe, but they are fundamental to reach
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the other fish tank. What happens is that sometimes if you jump into that
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fish tank, you also realize that you can produce pain and you end up
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staying in the fold many times, almost always to me in my company,
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senior managers have come and then we have ended up making action plans for their
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lives. And, logically, it' s when you change, sometimes you
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get divorced, you split up. I, in fact, talk a lot
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of things you' re in the book. When you go from one fish
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tank to another, you change. You get your best version for me.
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But eye find out that there have been things in your childhood that maybe weren
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' t the best and that' s not why your parents have made it
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worse, but you have to live what to see. I, for example,
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have wonderful parents that I' ve been able to tell. Oh,
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well, look as a child. Now that I' m at it,
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you didn' t do it too and they loved it, they' ve
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sat down, they' ve told me. Oh, look, you didn
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' t know so much about these things in your generation. I think what
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I mean is that from one fish tank to another, because logically you'
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re going to make decisions and sometimes you' re going to cut with friends.
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But if you want to get the best out, if I have a
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full and authentic life, there is no other way. And I say authentic,
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because there' s nothing better than showing the world how you are and
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showing nothing. I think the main step is when you stop showing yourself,
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I mean, you stop showing off and you stop showing yourself the way you
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are? It seems to me how much genetics influences, apart from society and
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what we live in, what you just said about childhood. Genetics has a
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great component. Some studies say it' s among fifty- sixty percent.
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But there is a research that came up about ten fifteen years ago, which
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is the experiments that begin to test epigenetics, which is the ability to change,
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because you in the end, all your neural networks. Neuroplasticity, therefore,
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is that people don' t change, it' s a lie.
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People can change whatever happened to them. I have around me people with very
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severe traumas with people who have suffered a lot. I am talking about traumas
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already with capital t and that have made a great personal spiritual growth and that
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have changed and that now give examples of how. Yes, you can,
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so genetics influences, but then we have a lot of us as the other
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way around, people who come with a good genetics are very good and by
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not managing their emotions, they end up having lives that then, well,
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they feel that they have not been worth it. I mean, you can
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give both sides. Once we' ve already jumped that fish tank, it
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turns out the water isn' t as clear as we thought. There has
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to be an exercise, an exercise before going back to the other fish tank.
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It means when you decide to change, when you have thought, when
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you have stopped having to prove and want to show yourself. It' s
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not a decision to go from white to black. There are nuances and on
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that path, in those grey shades, you might want to come back.
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Let' s tell the nigger he doesn' t have to be. Because
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maybe the situation you pose where you want to get there doesn' t mean
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it' s going to make you happy. For now you want to change,
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because where you are you are not well. Yeah, but it doesn
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' t mean where you go you' re gonna be happier. A good
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trick so we don' t get that good. Point number one. I
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love this super interesting question. Point number one. Life is not perfect and
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so are people. We' re with happiness. At the click of Amazon
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brings you and tomorrow my son of course was a costume and the next day
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he is watching a series and sees all the chapters. We have to wait
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a week to watch our favorite show. I mean, we' re in
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a society where everything is instant, but with feelings, the professional and the
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personal, that' s not instant and it' s never going to be
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instant and artificial intelligence is not going to be able to bring us that.
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So what happens that we also have to know that life is not perfect and
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that to have the life we want there are resignations and in renunciations where you
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' re going to make you and me deeper, get their best version and
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have identity. I mean, everything can' t be done in life.
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That' s what they' re selling us a lot on a social level
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and it' s a lie and that' s why there' s so
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much depression. That point number one, but point number two to make it
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is the fish and jumps. If you have several fish tankers with clean water,
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you need to know what you want in life and why. A lot
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of people don' t know what they want, but there' s something
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worse still and it' s happening to us a lot. Why you want,
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what you want to find the, why it' s fundamental, it
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' s passion, it' s your essence and I, when they come
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in my company look at me I get clear top managers more for coaching issues
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and when we analyze why they want things, sometimes we modify what. And
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to my friends I tell you why you want to marry and have children,
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because sometimes we want it, because society is what gets us done and the
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other way around why you don' t want to have children and get married.
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There are times when I have found friends and friends who tell me no
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and phenomenal they notice a full life. But sometimes I have found people who
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are afraid of commitment, who really want it, but who are afraid of
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it. What I' m telling you is, when I asked you why,
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I wanted to be a TV presenter, why, and when I saw
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answers that I didn' t like, I started a personal growth. And
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now, for example, I' m at the most authentic moment in my
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life when I' ve developed self- esteem that doesn' t depend on
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TV or my work. I mean, it goes further, but it'
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s because I' ve started working hard on why I want things, because
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I want a couple, because I want a family and when you' re
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clear on why. Wow I think it' s a very big engine there,
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because things, well, the clean fish tank may have bad times,
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but that' s what it' s going to do to you, be
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in an integrated consciousness and stay in your best you. There' s what
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you just said about why. I think that' s what you just said.
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I think in that wobbly, in that gray area, you just have
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to think about why and push you to follow it in that jump, always
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because passion explains it in the book. At the neuroscientific level, passion is
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connected with motivation. Intrinsic motivation acts with dopamine, which although I have criticized
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it at first, dopamine does not criticise it. You need to be on
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the exact level. You need levels like cortisol, that is, stress hormone.
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If in that hormone we wouldn' t get up what happens that when
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you have it already uneven there starts to be diseases, then what about motivation
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is that. Dopamine makes you, because when there are bumps in the way,
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if you know, why wow will keep pushing you. I' ve
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had bumps in the way both personal and professional, but as such was the
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passion I had because I knew why I went on. And besides, it
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' s passion that makes you have faith. I am very, very believers
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and I have a lot of faith in God, but to what I speak
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of another faith It is faith that one day you will look back and understand
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why the things happened that happened and that only gives it to you. Passion
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is like a ladder. You see only the first step, but passion makes
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you climb that first step, because you' re confident there' s a
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ladder. If there' s no passion, you don' t do anything.
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I completely agree. The truth is that you say it with so much
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passion, giving so much conviction that it is a taste. It' s
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not that. The truth is, I love it. And the truth is,
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besides I say it from the heart, it' s all that I
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experienced. I dared to write this book because I have put all these things
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into practice and I have not written anything that I have not put into practice.
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Another thing I recognize is that every day I put it into practice because
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sometimes my father, sometimes my boyfriend tells me he hears that you have written
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a book now I have that pressure is human, of course, so sometimes
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I have that pressure and eye there are times that I say my God.
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But if I know this, I' ve written it and I' m
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not. Logically, it' s not that then you wouldn' t be
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people, of course, or virtual. And that' s what I like
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to say in all the interviews, because I say what I don' t
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want to be seen as Angie, all this stuff she' s written carries
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it. No, but it is true that every day I get up with
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the desire to put it into practice and live my life as coherently as possible,
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for how to achieve your goals there a pleasure. The pleasure has been
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mine the truth. Thank you very much, thanks to you.