Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Kelly Eckhold: Westpac Chief Economist on lending rates increasing 20% year-on-year
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, finally some good economic news and more people
- 0:02Speaker 1: are getting mortgages. Centric data out today shows new residential
- 0:08Speaker 1: mortgage lending is up over twenty percent year on year
- 0:12Speaker 1: for the second month in a row. So to discuss this,
- 0:14Speaker 1: I'm joined by Westpac's chief economists Kelly Echold. So Hello, Kelly,
- 0:19Speaker 1: good morning. Does this mean the economy is back on
- 0:22Speaker 1: track or what?
- 0:23Speaker 2: Well? I think it's sitting in the right direction. It's
- 0:25Speaker 2: still pretty early days yet, and many of the indicators
- 0:29Speaker 2: for growth for where we are now are still a
- 0:31Speaker 2: bit subpar, but certainly those lower interest rates are starting
- 0:35Speaker 2: to flow through.
- 0:36Speaker 1: How much of us new lending is from first home buyers.
- 0:40Speaker 2: There is some of it, although I would have to
- 0:42Speaker 2: say that when we look at the credit statistics, we
- 0:45Speaker 2: actually see the investors are the strongest part of the
- 0:49Speaker 2: market so far, but some of the early indications we've
- 0:52Speaker 2: seen in the last few months suggest that the more
- 0:55Speaker 2: kind of like low income marginal buyer is more important.
- 0:59Speaker 2: So that's the first time buyers there.
- 1:01Speaker 1: So the investors are that because the tax thing that
- 1:04Speaker 1: happened after the last election, and finding the interest rates
- 1:06Speaker 1: have fallen.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think particularly it's the lower interest rates
- 1:11Speaker 2: that are important for the investors. It just means that
- 1:15Speaker 2: that hurd or rate of return you need to beat
- 1:18Speaker 2: is a bit lower. And obviously the tax changes that
- 1:21Speaker 2: were brought in by this government as well are obviously helpful.
- 1:25Speaker 1: So of course we all look to the RBNZ and
- 1:27Speaker 1: the Reserve Bank and try to figure out what they're
- 1:29Speaker 1: going to do next. Will they be hearing you today
- 1:32Speaker 1: looking at these numbers and thinking they've done enough or
- 1:35Speaker 1: do you think we're still on track for another cut
- 1:37Speaker 1: this month?
- 1:39Speaker 2: Well? I think we're still on track for another cut
- 1:41Speaker 2: this month. I mean, most of the data, as I've said,
- 1:44Speaker 2: has been a little bit subpar. Actually, I think they
- 1:46Speaker 2: might have been a little bit worried about that. But yesterday,
- 1:49Speaker 2: for example, we did get a really good month of
- 1:52Speaker 2: building consens number and it sort of went up to
- 1:54Speaker 2: seven point two percent for the month. That was the
- 1:57Speaker 2: first the third big month in a row, so that
- 2:00Speaker 2: will be relieving them. I think that the things are
- 2:04Speaker 2: starting to pen out is expected. The interest rates have
- 2:06Speaker 2: gone down a long way and that's the leading edge
- 2:09Speaker 2: of the recovery, but there's still quite a long way
- 2:12Speaker 2: to go here, and it is just one set of
- 2:15Speaker 2: indicators as well.
- 2:16Speaker 1: So you had a good profit yesterday, up sixteen percent.
- 2:19Speaker 1: A net profit of one hundred and ninety seven million
- 2:22Speaker 1: dollars actually is up thirteen percent. So how much can
- 2:26Speaker 1: we thank this increase in lending for your success over
- 2:29Speaker 1: the course of this year.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Well, I mean the lending growth has actually still been
- 2:33Speaker 2: a bit subpar. I mean that it is actually starting
- 2:36Speaker 2: to improve. So I mean, if we look at business lending,
- 2:39Speaker 2: for example, it's finally poked up to around looking at
- 2:43Speaker 2: my number here, three point seven percent, So that's sort
- 2:46Speaker 2: of the highest level since about twenty twenty three. I mean,
- 2:50Speaker 2: I think we're looking forward to a better operating environment
- 2:52Speaker 2: for the whole economy in the next year.
- 2:55Speaker 1: All right, So are we beyond green shoots? And do
- 2:58Speaker 1: we Are we actually starting to poke out of the ground.
- 3:01Speaker 1: I'm just saying for a metaphor or an allegory that
- 3:04Speaker 1: you know that she fits us.
- 3:06Speaker 2: No, I think we're actually just seeing the odd green
- 3:09Speaker 2: shoot poking out at the moment. We need a bit
- 3:11Speaker 2: of water on it, basically in a bit of time,
- 3:14Speaker 2: so that you can actually see something a bit more
- 3:16Speaker 2: than that.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Well, Kelly Echold, I thank you so much for your
- 3:19Speaker 1: Time Today. Kelly Echold is the senior economist from Chief
- 3:22Speaker 1: Economists from Westpac. For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge,
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