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Joyce Carol Oates: 'With prose fiction you can go beneath the surface'

It's revolution on the Fictionable podcast, where we've evolved again to hear more from our fabulous contributors.

We're devoting an entire programme to Joyce Carol Oates and her fantastic story Small Veins, with Fiona Mozley, José Falero and his translator Maria Jacqueline Evans, Donal McLaughlin and Sabba Khan all joining us over the coming weeks.

In this programme, Oates tells us how she paid for Small Veins with her own blood, and how she works out if something is a "Story" or a "Tale of Suspense". She talks typography as she explains how she captures the rhythm of thought on the page…

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