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Mac & Bone Hour 3: AP Poll Flops · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 6: Listen to the podcast for the first couple hours. A
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  Speaker 6: lot of good panther talk, college football talk, a lot
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  Speaker 6: of talk about the college football Top twenty five, the
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  Speaker 6: teams from the Carolinas that we're at the outside look
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  Speaker 6: it in the top twenty five. We'll talk to Adam
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  Speaker 6: gold coming up at a twenty five his usual spot. Adam,
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  Speaker 6: of course has been in Raleigh doing radio for two decades,
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  Speaker 6: a writer for the school paper at NC State making a.
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  Speaker 6: I want to know what Goldie thinks about that. So
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  Speaker 6: that's coming up in a little bit. More panther talk
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  Speaker 6: coming up as well, y'all, so keep it right here
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  Speaker 6: with us football time.
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  Speaker 5: When we went over the eight people, I feel like
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  Speaker 5: none of those predictions back would be cold at all?
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  Speaker 2: Would they in the future? No?
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  Speaker 6: No, And predictions like that on this show Bone never, never,
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  Speaker 6: traditionally would be a problem at all. It is time
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  Speaker 6: now to bring in a man who is the creator
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  Speaker 6: of freezing cold takes to two year reference there.
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  Speaker 2: Bone.
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  Speaker 6: It is just known all across the internet for just
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  Speaker 6: exposing people Bone that have bad sports takes, and it
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  Speaker 6: is freaking hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes friends sometimes.
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  Speaker 6: And he's got a book out there right now, specifically,
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  Speaker 6: he is putting a book out specifically about college football,
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  Speaker 6: Freezing Cold Takes. It is Freezing Cold Takes College Football
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  Speaker 6: Incomplete History of the game's most inaccurate statements. And he
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  Speaker 6: is Fred Siegel, demand behind Freezing Cold Takes. And he
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  Speaker 6: joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. Fred,
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  Speaker 6: what's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing doing great? Thanks guys, Fred.
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  Speaker 6: We even though we often will have some cold takes,
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  Speaker 6: we do enjoy like everybody does, mocking other people's When
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  Speaker 6: how did you come up with the idea that there
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  Speaker 6: is like that, that there would be such a need,
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  Speaker 6: want and desire such a market for bad takes.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't actually know there was going to be such
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  Speaker 1: a desire for it. When I came up with it,
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  Speaker 1: I was just I was seeing journalists and reporters and
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  Speaker 1: personalities posting a lot of their you know, accurate takes
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  Speaker 1: or predictions. Like there was posts on the on Twitter
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  Speaker 1: just like I said yesterday and then post that old
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  Speaker 1: prediction that they made and say it was right. And
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  Speaker 1: I would remember that that same person got like two
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  Speaker 1: ridiculously wrong predictions the week before, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell? So I just decided I'll be the
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  Speaker 1: one that posts their bad ones, and I created a
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  Speaker 1: feed and then I guess a couple of people picked
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  Speaker 1: up on it, and then everyone started to really enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's how I found out.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's one of the most popular sports feeds
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  Speaker 5: out there, to be honest. Now, what led to this
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  Speaker 5: college football book? Because this is not your first book, right,
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  Speaker 5: you have an NFL one that you've done before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I did the NFL book, But I think
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  Speaker 1: the college football, which is my favorite sports, is like
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  Speaker 1: the gold mine of predictions in every which way. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many teams, there's so many players, there's just
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  Speaker 1: all the fans get super emotional, even all the reporters
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  Speaker 1: overreact to everything. And there's narratives all over the place
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  Speaker 1: that you can use for any data point or any game,
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  Speaker 1: any performance.
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  Speaker 6: So what are hit us with some of your favorites
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  Speaker 6: from the book? You know, it's four hundred pages, baby,
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  Speaker 6: So there's a lot of bad takes. But what are
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  Speaker 6: some of your favorite college football bad takes?
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  Speaker 1: Well, one of them is had. I mean, there's plenty
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  Speaker 1: of them in the book to highlight when Nick Saban
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  Speaker 1: was hired by Alabama, and I think there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of journalists and personalities who really thought that he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't going to be there for a long time and
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna be able to work the same magic
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  Speaker 1: that he did again. Tell us you like one guy
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  Speaker 1: from Atlanta, his name is Jeff Schultz. He said that
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  Speaker 1: he was writing in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, which is
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  Speaker 1: the newspaper there. He said that that, you know, Nick
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  Speaker 1: Saban wasn't going to be able to create exactly what
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  Speaker 1: he did before. And he said that Alabama's not the
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  Speaker 1: same job as it used to be. He said, Alabama's
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  Speaker 1: now the second best job in the state behind Auburn
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  Speaker 1: and Troy's closing in a number two, and he said
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  Speaker 1: the days of earlier off the FUC are gone. And
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  Speaker 1: the bigger problem is that nobody in Tusca loser realizes
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  Speaker 1: that oh man, no, it was yeah, it was completely wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's other ones like Kirby Smart. The coaches
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  Speaker 1: are a great topic. Kirby Smart when he was at Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: his first season wasn't particularly great, and then they lost
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  Speaker 1: a lot of bad games. I think we lost to
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  Speaker 1: Vanderbilt's home in Vanderbilt wasn't very good then, So there
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of conjecture about how it was they
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  Speaker 1: were just completely stupid from firing Mark Rick and hiring
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  Speaker 1: Kirby Smart. And there's a lot of stuff like that
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  Speaker 1: is there. There is all shorts of topics. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I go back to the eighties and nineties. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when Jimmy Johnson was hired Miami, the journalists at in
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  Speaker 1: Miami writing in the newspaper were not excited about it
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  Speaker 1: at all, and one wrote boo and all capital letters.
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  Speaker 6: So a lot of a lot of it is doubting
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  Speaker 6: the coach hires that end up being all I can't
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  Speaker 6: relate Fred because I didn't like the Dabo higher for Clemson.
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  Speaker 6: For Clemson, Oh yeah, that's in there.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of Davos, I even got. I talked to
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  Speaker 1: Adam Gold the other day. He was, he's right in there.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, he's in he's in the boat. Yeah, he's on next.
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  Speaker 5: What did he what did he do?
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  Speaker 1: He was making fun of uh. I think the name
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  Speaker 1: of the athletic director at the time was Terry Donn Phillips. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he he made fun of his name. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: what he called some sort of other three name names
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  Speaker 1: and then uh he But this was during the tenure.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was after his second season Davos. They won,
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  Speaker 1: they went six and six maybe I like to say,
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  Speaker 1: and it was two I think it was twenty tends
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  Speaker 1: and they played the bowl game and they got destroyed
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  Speaker 1: in that bowl game.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and it was.
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  Speaker 1: One of the best ball games. Is he? And he said,
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  Speaker 1: Adam Gold and I talked to him about this on
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  Speaker 1: his show. I think it was yesterday. He said it
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  Speaker 1: was a Minucke car Care Bowl against South Florida and
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  Speaker 1: he said, will Joe Don Baker, Terry fire Yabba, Dabo
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  Speaker 1: Swinty after this game and bringing a real head coat.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, that's strong. My god, that is strong.
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  Speaker 6: And there's something about a two bone when you put
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  Speaker 6: it in, like when you put it when you type
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  Speaker 6: it out on Twitter, it's like a permanent record of it.
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  Speaker 2: Like on the radio, Fred, we.
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  Speaker 6: Could kind of say it and then like you know
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  Speaker 6: what I mean, like we can kind of weasel out
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  Speaker 6: a little easier, we can lie.
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  Speaker 5: There's all you gotta be accountable when you post it
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  Speaker 5: on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. I mean, radio is easier for to go.
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  Speaker 1: I heard that many sometimes. I think, especially the bigger,
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  Speaker 1: the bigger national shows. I think if they have a
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  Speaker 1: social media seasons giddy to post all the takes as
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  Speaker 1: they happen, as the person says it, and so those
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  Speaker 1: are usually a memorialized on social media too.
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  Speaker 5: Fred, if there was a mount rushmore of either take
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  Speaker 5: artists or just individual takes, would Beto Cooks Ron Paulus
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  Speaker 5: Notre Dame nineteen ninety three take beyond there about Ron
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  Speaker 5: Paulis winning multiple heismans on Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so. I mean I have a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I have about four or five pages about that case
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  Speaker 1: alone in the book. It's the background behind it and everything.
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  Speaker 1: And the crazy thing back then would be o'cook said
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  Speaker 1: that freshman quarterback Ron Palace for Notre Dame was going
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  Speaker 1: to win two heydriends and as a Notre Dame was
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  Speaker 1: going to win two national champions, says when he was
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback. He didn't just say two, he says at
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  Speaker 1: least two. But back then that was the crazy take.
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  Speaker 1: Like there wasn't many other crazy proclamations being made by anybody,
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  Speaker 1: and especially on national TV. So that but now they're
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  Speaker 1: just thrown all over the place.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you get to It's so true though, so
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  Speaker 6: many more takes to choose from now.
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  Speaker 5: When I've got into radio, I used to have to
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  Speaker 5: call Beno Cook for guest spots to.
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  Speaker 2: Come on the show.
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  Speaker 5: It was unlike anything I've ever seen before, because I
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  Speaker 5: would call his house, he go leave a message after
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  Speaker 5: the beep beep, and then I would start talking and
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  Speaker 5: he'd be he was there live.
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  Speaker 2: He messed with it to.
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  Speaker 6: Go all right, I'm here live, what do you need?
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  Speaker 6: Like he wasn't even a recording. That too was an original.
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  Speaker 6: He was an original man. We're talking to Fred Siegel,
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  Speaker 6: the man behind Freezing Cold Takes. There's a special Freezing
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  Speaker 6: Cold Takes College Football book that is released today. It's
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  Speaker 6: out and about Freezing Cold Takes College Football and incomplete
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  Speaker 6: history of the game's most inaccurate statement in prediction. And
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  Speaker 6: we found out our buddy Adam Gold is included. All right,
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  Speaker 6: before we let you go, I just like, in is
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  Speaker 6: there do y'all keep track of like the top most
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  Speaker 6: like cold takers? Like I like my guess would be
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  Speaker 6: like if you include like the Twitter account and everything
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  Speaker 6: over the years, my guests would be. Skip Bayless like
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  Speaker 6: leads the nation in freezing colt takes. Do you guys,
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  Speaker 6: do you keep track of like who you have done
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  Speaker 6: the most? No?
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  Speaker 1: I don't actually have a tally of it. Skip Bayless.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of don't use anymore. I think he's so unseerious.
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  Speaker 1: I think that it's not even worth using him.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's almost like he posts things just so
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  Speaker 1: he could be gun.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's trying. He's trying to make cow heard.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe h Clay Travis, but before he was doing sport.
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  Speaker 1: Those type of guys probably are on the seed the
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  Speaker 1: most and stuff. But I don't really keep track. But it
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  Speaker 1: also depends on how much how many posts or proclamations
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  Speaker 1: to make. They are very findable in the media.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. That's why.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I feel like in little Old Charlotte, I
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  Speaker 6: feel like we could be the league leaders bone But.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: I was going to say, Cowhard always has his takes
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  Speaker 5: out there, so that's probably a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's like proud you you said it, Fred, Some
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  Speaker 6: guys are and some places are almost proud of their
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  Speaker 6: host's absurd takes.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe we need to get over maybe we need to
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  Speaker 6: get more proud of our absurd takes.
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  Speaker 5: Bony, although Skip does have that one all Timer on
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  Speaker 5: first take when he said that Johnny Menzel was going
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  Speaker 5: to be bigger in Cleveland than Lebron James Ever was
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  Speaker 5: that is true? That's that's on the rushmore too right there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one. Or cow Hed in twenty fourteen said
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  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott will be a backup in the NFL period
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  Speaker 1: at tight end period.
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  Speaker 6: Oh that's a bad one. That's a bad one. I
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  Speaker 6: love talking about other people's bad ones. We'd ignore ours.
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  Speaker 6: Don't worry about it, all right? He is Fred Siegel
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  Speaker 6: the book everybody is freezing. Call takes college football and
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  Speaker 6: in complete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions.
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  Speaker 6: And Fred, I'm guessing it's it's it's in bookstores, and
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  Speaker 6: it's you know, everywhere you could buy books.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and uh online anywhere you can buy books like
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  Speaker 1: Amazon and Starge and Noble online. So yeah, easy to
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  Speaker 1: be fine, easy.
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  Speaker 6: By all right, y'all check it out. Fred, thanks for
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  Speaker 6: joining us. It was fun.
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  Speaker 2: Man, appreciate it's Fred.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: All right. There you go.
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  Speaker 6: That is Fred Siegel giving us a chance bone you
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  Speaker 6: talk about other people's bad.
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  Speaker 5: Sack non college football. Ian O'Connor of uh, the former
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  Speaker 5: Yankee writer of the New York Post. He had an
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  Speaker 5: all timer. Also the day after Joe Tory was hired,
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  Speaker 5: the headline was coolest Joe Tory has no idea what
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  Speaker 5: he's getting himself into. And then they go on and
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  Speaker 5: they win all those world series.
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  Speaker 6: See a lot of our of them are when you
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  Speaker 6: doubt guy that ends up being amazing. Like like me
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  Speaker 6: with Dabo, I'm trying to think of what are my
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  Speaker 6: like ap.
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  Speaker 5: You remember, I remember the day it was me you
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  Speaker 5: and Brentson Buckner were on the air, and I think
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  Speaker 5: we were still in the Afternoon's Dead, and I remember
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  Speaker 5: the news broke and I went over the the over
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  Speaker 5: the talk back and I said, Tommy Bowden's been fired.
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  Speaker 5: They've hired some guy named Debo, And you said, who's Debo?
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  Speaker 5: I remember even Breton said de bou Sweeney. We didn't
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  Speaker 5: even know how to say his name properly. But didn't
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  Speaker 5: like it either. Buck also did not like it. And
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  Speaker 5: then he goes on to win two Natty's.
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of, like, what are our coldest takes,
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  Speaker 6: Like when I.
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  Speaker 5: Wanted I wanted oh Kong mo over Mellow. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: wanted Cam at the end. Early on in the process,
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  Speaker 5: I was Taddy Blaine Gabber. But to be fair, I
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  Speaker 5: knew when we got to that point, I didn't want
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  Speaker 5: Cam Luke Kahan Brandon. That's pretty famous.
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  Speaker 7: I thought Moore being a Pro Bowl now a caliber quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: For there was worse.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I said, when we had Matt Moore and Clawson
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  Speaker 6: on the team. After we drafted Clawson, I said, we
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  Speaker 6: have two Pro Bowl future Pro bowlers on the roster.
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  Speaker 2: That has to be the worst. Right.
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  Speaker 5: There was the draft party where we drafted Jonathan Stewart.
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  Speaker 5: We were at McCoy smokehouse. We drafted Jonathan Stewart, and
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  Speaker 5: it came over that the Panthers traded back in, and
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  Speaker 5: you two hands shoved me to get to the TV,
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  Speaker 5: and you got so fired up that we traded back
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  Speaker 5: in for Jeff Ote.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my god, I thought that the mall are at
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  Speaker 6: right tackle with the big bruising battle. I thought we
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  Speaker 6: were going to run the ball for two hundred and
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  Speaker 6: fifty yards a game with those two man, didn't.
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  Speaker 7: You predict Matt rules gona win a super Bowl here
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  Speaker 7: in Carolina?
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  Speaker 2: I did?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, we both did. Yeah, we both probably crowd. We've
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  Speaker 6: kind of we haven't advertised that one much fitty. That
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  Speaker 6: is a bad one too.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god, yeah, me, You and South Palatonio teamed
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  Speaker 5: up on that promo.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta tell you, why are we making fun
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  Speaker 6: of other people's takes?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: These are bad? All right?
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  Speaker 6: Well, we and Trey Wingo. Trey Wingo was saying it too,
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  Speaker 6: wasn't he. Yeah, Yes, he's a Baylor guy and he's
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  Speaker 6: swore by Matt r. So we at least had company
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  Speaker 6: on that one.
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  Speaker 7: All of your will Wade Will Wade high here, Will
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  Speaker 7: Wade Hype?
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  Speaker 5: Are you where are you looking these up? How are
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  Speaker 5: you coming up with these?
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  Speaker 2: Over there? Fitty?
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  Speaker 5: I just got a good memory, great, Fitty. Didn't you
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  Speaker 5: have Kayen Evans last year as an All America?
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  Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, that happened. Oh I got I gotta get
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  Speaker 6: Selania in the mix too. Remember when Selania had Devin
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  Speaker 6: Functious as like the next to Leo Jones or something
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  Speaker 6: like that.
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  Speaker 2: And he was already into his career. He was, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was bad.
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  Speaker 5: Oh man, man, why y'all keep listening to us dummies?
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  Speaker 5: When we come back Adam Gold, we'll ask him about
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  Speaker 5: being in this book coming up next that we just promoted,
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  Speaker 5: and the NC State Student newspaper going after Dave Dore
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  Speaker 5: in his reaction to that Sports Radio ninety two seven
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  Speaker 5: w FNZ.
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  Speaker 4: Oh Man, fun to celebrate.
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  Speaker 6: Our historically bad local sports takes over the years. If
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  Speaker 6: you can't laugh at yourself, man, who can you laugh?
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  Speaker 6: I feel like bone. We're gonna laugh at a lot
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  Speaker 6: of people on this show. So we gotta be mad
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  Speaker 6: enough to laugh at ourselves. And Lord knows the material
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  Speaker 6: is out there. Oh my goodness. Seven four or five
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  Speaker 6: seven oh, nine six cent if you want to keep
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  Speaker 6: texting in what you think are the worst takes we've
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  Speaker 6: come up with.
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  Speaker 5: We laugh at others momentarily before we talk to Adam Gold.
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  Speaker 2: Can you guess Mac what get ups topic is? Right now? Cowboys?
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  Speaker 5: What the Cowboys have to do the next couple of
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  Speaker 5: weeks to become Super Bowl context.
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  Speaker 6: I'm telling you man, ESPN wants the Cowboys and the
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  Speaker 6: Super Bowls I think worse than Jerry Jones done. They
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  Speaker 6: also have the right broadcast rights to the Yeah, this
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  Speaker 6: one's special.
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  Speaker 4: They want.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: They want old Jerry and the Bowl into Super Bowl Fitty,
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: Are you not so glad to not be a part
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: of this annoying team that everybody obsesses over to the
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: national media level.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you man. It feels good to be.
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: A fan of the local home grown There you go, Ben, there,
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: you know, underrated team like the Carolina Panthers. My dad
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: called me yesterday, told me Cowboys one of the Super
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: Bowl because they signed one.
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I'm telling you you know what. This
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: is perfect. Let them get their it's attrition unlike any
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: other boat. Let them get their hopes up and let
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: them just be crying at some point in a few months,
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: usually in their Thanksgiving points all right, by the way,
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: speaking of teams Bone that get hyped up this time
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: and year only to be disappointed anc State wolf Pack.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: That happens quite a bit on the football side of things.
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: And we got to talk about this. We got to
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: talk about Dave Doran getting called out by a student
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: writer for the student newspaper there in Raleigh, of course,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: speaking of Raleigh, that's where Adam Gold does his work.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: He has on the radio for decades. I'm uh seven
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: to fan in raleighty nine point nine. Oh, I had
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: it right to start. Why did I put a seven
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: in there? Ninety nine nine to fan? There's another cold
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: take ninety nine and nine to fan in Raleigh and
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: most importantly here in Charlotte weeknights on WFNZ at seven o'clock.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: He is Adam Gold. Goldie, that was not a smooth intro.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: My friend, what is going on?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: You?
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Who cares?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: It?
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Got a little scary? Hey, at Plainlander, don't worry. Sometimes
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: you get to our own station numbers wrong. That's true.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: That's at least I've gotten those right today.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: Goldie, What did you think of the writer for this
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: the technician to student newspaper making a run at Dave
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: Dorn with all the talking points that you've probably heard
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: over the years from State fans that we've heard over
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: the years, what do you think about that and like
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: and where do you feel like you're around, you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: State fans. You're talking State a bunch in Raleigh. What
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: do you think the mentality is right now with State fans?
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: With Dave Dorin.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: States, they have scars from everything. So it goes well
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: before day of Dora. I've been saying I've been saying
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: this about Darrin for a long time. I think he
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: has built an upstanding football program. They do it right way.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: There's never a whip of anything like any of off
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: the field issues at State. I mean, the players are
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: dying my again. I think he does a great job.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: The only thing they have not done is good enough.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Every year there's a game or two and you go,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: heck you use that uh last year Virginia Tech. Right. Yeah.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: But in terms of you know what you want from
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: your football program, they check almost every box. It's just
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: that one box. They have had no digit win seasons
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: under Dave Dorian heck Larry Fandora had doubled wins season
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: at Carolina, and he doesn't hold a candle to the
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: way Dave Darrin runs a football program. I mean, I
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: wish the best for them, man. This schedule is tailor
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: made for a ten year. Everything is really front loaded.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: That doesn't mean they're gonna win the games in all
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: the games in the back half, but uh, there's there's
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: schedule set up in the first five weeks. They've got
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: three they're three tougher games probably in the first five
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: weeks if they get off to a good start ten.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: But I don't have any problem with anybody bringing receipts
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: to Dave that you guys haven't done this, haven't done this,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: haven't done this, especially when he says when we win ten. Uh,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: when the ACC network was on, which I loved, I
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: have no problem with setting the bar high. Go for it, man.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I hope he gets it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he feels good. He was frisky at ACC media days,
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: he was man, Adam, how surprised are you that state
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: got no votes for the top twenty five at all?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised at all. Oh No, I mean I
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I mean you would have thought one vocal writer, right, Yeah,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: a couple a couple of in state writers. He would
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: have thought one would have gone. Man, that schedule pretty easy.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: They've got lots of the best returning quarterbacks in the country.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: The running game would be good. We don't know about
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: the receivers, but you know, they just haven't been good
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: enough defensively the last couple of years. And they lost
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: a bunch of Carrus Pick left, so who knows. But yeah,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: the preseason Paul, I may not laugh at it most
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: of the time, but yeah, I guess I'm maybe I'm
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: surprised that somebody didn't delete from the vote for twenty fifth.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: What did you now?
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: Clemson also unranked for the first time since twenty eleven
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: in the AP pole. They were the one just outside
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: though at twenty six. Essentially, what is your expectation for Clemson?
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: They're a fascinating team. Like, I think they'll be better
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: than last year, but how much better? Like how good
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: do you think do you think they'll be ranked when
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: the season's over?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Goldie, No, No.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be. I don't know how they're gonna
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: be better with West with Western personnel. I mean, they
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: put eight guys drafted. My guys drafted right.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, nine guys drafted in seven wins.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I just don't even understand, Like they don't. They're not
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: gonna have the same talent level obviously the quarterback, not
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: the Kake club. Nick was great because he won't h
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: but he had been there, I believe eleven years, and
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I think he got there with Dabo and the like.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I just don't see how they're going to be better.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Their schedule is not super easy. I think there, uh,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be some challenges. I think it's a it's
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: a very good uh question. Who will what number will
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: be larger Clemson's wins or North Carolina's lost and yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: it's a fun one.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Interesting Could that end up time?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. No. I think I think
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I would. I would say I would juice it this way.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I would say Clemson wins plus one and a half
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: versus North Carolina losses.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, huh, I would be two and a half.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Carolina's looking at ten losses.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: You think they're looking at.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Ten Carolina's ten losses?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is a schedule that's down.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: That was actually my next question for you, and you
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: just answered it. Is there any path at all? For
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: the Heels to make something out of the season. Can
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: they be at least okay or do you think that
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: this just has a second disaster written all over it.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I think they could be better. They will, They
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: will be better than they were a year ago. But
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: the schedule is I don't know how many you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: factors more difficult. If you flip the home and road
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: for UNC and just in conference play, if you took
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: all of their road conference games, put them at home,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: and flipped the other way, I think they could threaten
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: the Bowl game, but they don't. You can't like place
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: an Huno card in front of the front of the
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: season and flip them. So I just think that they're
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: going to struggle all year long and they have a
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: very difficult start to the season in terms of their schedule. Well,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: why they are playing a game at Yukon in November
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: is mind blowing to me. Said the same thing, by
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the way, about Duke last year, and we saw how
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: that turned out. Although I don't know that Connecticut is
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: gonna be what they win ten games nine games last year,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know if Yukon's gonna be that good. But
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: still they're not bad. But it's I don't I don't
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: end Vitario fans and what they're gonna do with this
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: year because the speculation about moving on from Bill Belichick's
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: gonna start. You know, I don't know Labor Day.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: Do you, Goldie? Do you believe that NC State or
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: NC I'm went back to n C State. Now I'm
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: gonna get caught? What back back again?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: O get caught?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Back man, North Carolina? Isn't that I'm trying to say?
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: Do you think North Carolina fans, Goldie, should be basically
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: rooting for it to go really bad so that they
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: get rid of Belichick? Like, I know some fans don't
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: like that school of thought, but like that feels like
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: their best chance to succeed at some point in the
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: next few years.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I've heard that. I've heard that take that the best
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: case scenario for UNCA is a disaster season. Here's the thing.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: What level of commitment does their Like I understand what
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the phrase soak cost means, because they've got to pay
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Belichick and staff for another year. Do they have enough
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: backing financially to pay Belichick and staff Let's just say
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: twenty dollars to walk away then go out and hire
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: another coaching staff and back them financially. Like maybe it
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: would be best to send Bill off and then then
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: bite the bullet on a on a what would have
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: been year three for Bill with another coaching staff with
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: no money to uh, to go out and get a
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: credible roster and essentially tear it to the studs and
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: start over. I don't know. I personally, I think that
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: there's no good solution here.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: The worst decision they could have possibly made ultimately will
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: end up setting the program back I don't know, anywhere
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: from three to five years. The Belichick gamble was so
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: great that if if it didn't work, it was going
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: to absolutely cost a lot of people their jobs.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: UH.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: And now it wasn't Lee Roberts idea, but it probably
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: will cost him his job at some point. Bubba cunning
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: had had nothing to do with this. This was This
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: was all John Fryar, the former head of the Board
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: of Trustees. I know. I mean, I'd like to say
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I know that for a fact, but I have had
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: it told to me by several people who would know
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: that this was all John Pryor h And he got
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: financial backing from whomever he needed to and Unfortunately, it's
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: going to be a football disaster at UNC. They better
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: have basketball on on solid ground. I think they will.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I think Michael Malone will be fine. Yeah, but my gosh,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: football is a disaster.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: They have to try to get out of this without
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: a buyout, right, they have to have him retire or
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: quit or you wonder is there is there a language
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: in there that if he gets an infraction or he
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: gets in trouble and they can fire with cause for
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: NCAA violation, can they maybe not have to pay the
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: full buyot because I think what Adams saying, there full
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: buyout for him now.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: He would be ten million.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: I think Goldie after the year, but then his staff
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: is it you're saying the staff then would would Yeah,
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: it is a fascinating situation.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: You gonna have to pay Michael Lombody too, and they're
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: gonna have to pay Bobby Portray. There's a lot of
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: people that are gonna get paid.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I get I get what you're saying. Goldie.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: You last week, Panther fans were so happy with you.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: You had a run the ten win board up. Yeah,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: you're on the ten war ten win board.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: You had a bounce in your step about panther football
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: and then they went out and played like that in
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: the preseason. Do you care at all? Does that like,
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: does that shake your confidence in this team? Or do
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: you not care?
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: No, I care. I was a terrible performance. I was
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: actually more put off by the defense than the offense.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Didn't you didn't force a punt?
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: How do you?
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: How do you play a preseason game and not force
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: a punt? I just couldn't believe that.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: That's not ideal.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I just went there was a hot knfe through a
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: butter man. But yeah, the offensive, the middle of the
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: offensive line was atrocious. They couldn't do anything. Uh they
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: did pick up a first down, but of course somebody
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: was illegal downfield. Uh So I mean, I don't, I don't.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I mean I think that we can point to that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I think Bryce did a couple of good things, but
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: obviously three three and outs and uh, that was terrible.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: But the defense was atrocious. Other than Jalen Phillips made
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: a couple of nice plays and Prince Levia Ma Miellen
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: made a couple of nice plays. Other than that, not
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: a lot good big plays, broken coverages, no good. But
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: move on. It's just a preseason game. I'm not losing
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: any sleep over it at all. I think they'll be
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: fun league.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: You still in the ten win wagon with us?
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Goali, I mean I think it's I think some wins
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: is out there. I don't want to think by to
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: say I'm predicting that they will win ten.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Shoot, okay, we had you on the board.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: We had you on our board over here at ten,
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: bones out, crossing it off bone.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Now put a question mark.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: He put a question mark next to you.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I mean there's a range. Think there's a range for them.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: So uh and ten's within range.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: You're now on the ten win express maybe possibly ten.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Oh man, that is a possibility.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not all right.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what, you're not off it, but we'll
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: check back in next week. Yeah, we'll just hold you
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: right there. I'll just hold you there. We'll check back
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: with you.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: You may. You may depart this trip before before the destination.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Alright, gold He great talking to you, brother, Although tar
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Heel fans are now mad at you, So that's that's happening.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: They don't complainer in chief does He is the guy
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: that thinks they're beating Miami.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he thinks they're beating Miami and Louisville Gold. So
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: he is y. He's very upset with you.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: All right. I would love a can of whatever he's got.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: Listen, I for him to be right. It's just what
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: what what evidence do we have to have any faith
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: in this?
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I don't like this just hurts my heart to say
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: these things.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: Tell I can tell you're upset. All right, go to
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: you the man. We'll talk to you next week. All right,
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: there's Adam Gold. You can listen to his show on
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: WFNZ that he does middays in Rally. Listen to here
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: seven o'clock weeknights on WFNZ.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Before we get to Fitty with the news update, Mac
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: wanted to give you some college football news this morning
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: that could be a big deal. May not. We'll find out.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: And war Richardson writes for Orange Bloods dot Com, the
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Texas site. Texas star left tackle Trevor Goosby well practiced
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: yesterday with the knee injury. They do not know the
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: severity of it yet. He has a testing done today. Well,
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: theough no more. He's a first round All American tackle.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: That's a huge deal for arch Manning and of course
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: a huge deal for talking about these contending teams, So
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: we'll keep an eye on j and what was their
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: weakness last year offensive line? So yeah, no, maybe nothing,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: but that's certainly something to monitor there. Yeah, so that
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: wouldn't be id at all. Tar heel Swaft says.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: Goldie's panther wind range is between somewhere between four and ten.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Ten win boards. Mack are getting awfully complicated.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: I know well, I'm getting called out to seven Willie's
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: that's seventeen to Oh Willie's up there, says said he's
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: got all the fate of the world seven oh four numbers,
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: says Mac.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: You are out of your freaking mind, right, he.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Says, says Mac.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: That's awful rich of you asking Goldie if you're with
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: us on the ten win express. Pretty sure you dropped
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: off that wagon. Sir, you're off the r that's true,
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: it says Fraudum there, that's true. I'm at nine. That's true.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: All right, Let's bring in the fit dog real quick here.
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: What do you got fit.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Fitting?
• 33:50
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• 34:19
  Speaker 7: second straight year, Diamondbacks second baseman All Star could Tell
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: Marte has been put on the restricted list after he
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: failed to show up for their game last night against
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: the Boston Red Sox. Their manager was pretty emotional talking
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: about it after the game, was trying to get some answers,
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: some clarity of where he may or may not have been.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: Remember last year he went went missing or went a
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: wall after his house was broken into and he had
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: to go deal with that. We don't know the circumstances yet,
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: but back to back years, could tell Marte's been gone
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: missing for the Diamondbacks in the middle of the years
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: they're trying to stake their claim as a wild our
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  Speaker 7: team in the National League.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and what's interesting about this one. They're on the road,
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: they're in Boston, he's with the team and then they
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: couldn't find him yesterday. He was not there like he
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: was with them traveling. Then he was not there. So
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: we knew about the You mentioned the house stuff last year.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: We don't know about this one this year. But this
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: is a heck of a player that seems to have
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: a lot going on in his life. So hopefully he's
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: all right there. Backer that's a story there, that is man.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: I hope everything's okay. So we have an update on
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: the earlier saga in case you're just joining us. Granny,
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: pat legendary caller, cannot leave the hospital until she has
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: a bowel movement, so she was updating us along the way.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: We were trying to find ways to get this out
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: so Granny can go home. Mac, what's the latest on Granny?
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: The latest from Granny is I am trying, but it
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: hasn't happened yet.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: We were taking bit there before I had seven fourteen
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: on the movement and Granny.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: I'd love the fact that Granny, You're right, she is
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: not the slightest bit embarrassed, so she likes this come
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: a storyline on the Mac and Bone Show.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: We do this because we care Granny like we want you.
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: How that hospital sounds like you're feeling so much better
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: and we want you out of there. So everybody was
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: sending in all their ideas to make the magic happen,
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: but so far it is not happening.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: She do thrower backed up in seventy seven?
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Could she do a round table? Oh yeah, here's a
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: traffic update.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: What you want to do? A round table from the toilet?
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: Yeh?
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Caps, Oh my gosh, might be better off than some.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: When we come back on the Mac and Bone Show,
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: we get back into college football. In eighteen of the
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: last nineteen years, at least one top ten team and
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: the preseason eight people has ended up unranked by the
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: end of the year. We discuss the potential flops in
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: the poll this year. Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: They gotta play their way in, they gotta earn it.
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: But I will be shocked, absolutely shocked if Clemson is
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: not better this year and playing I'm gonna go on
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: live here playing Miami in the ACC Championship. You know,
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: I think they have to obviously find a quarterback like
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: a lot of the other teams that we're talking about here,
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: but I like the higher as Chad Morris as offensive coordinator,
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: second year under Tom Allen defensive coordinator. I think they're
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: on the upwards trajectory. I think they get Miami at
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: home this year, which is a big deal. So you know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: it's it's tricky, but they's gotta be better.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: Goldie dismissed me when I said, I think Clemson will
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: be a better team this year, even with less talent.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it works out that way.
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: Sometimes that I'm not sure the talent Bone was motivated
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: necessarily upfront.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Defensively last year.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: They played, They played like they knew that they were
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: all big evaluated for the draft, rather than playing for
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: the name of Clemson and the Tigers.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they probably had big they got paid. Also, they're
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: probably looking forward to bigger paid a So just it
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: didn't feel like a great mix last year. I do
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: wonder if Dabo kind of playing the we got a
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: bunch of nobody's and nobody's respecting us. Everybody thinks that
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: everybody's writing a song. I wonder if that can get
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: a better result this year. Heather Dnich ESPN seems to
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: think so. With that said, Bone, the AP voters did
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: not put them in the top twenty five first time
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: in fifteen years.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I want to. By the way, Granny has texted back.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: See this is.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: The We had a text from from a seven oh
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: four number that said, you guys have no shame. How
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: are you talking about granted poor Granny's situational.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Ater for help.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Granny has asked for assistance, and now Granny has cantinuing
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: bone to go back and forth with us. Granny says
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: that all these methods that people are trying to get
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: to help her have again, it's kind of funny we're
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: talking about this, have the bowel movement in order to
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: be released from the hospital, she says, it has to
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: happen naturally. They are telling her that she cannot use
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: all these different methods. You mean, somebody can't just bring
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: her like a big old burrito like panther Bo five
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: layer burrito from Taco Bell like panther Bo suggested.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: We can't get a sis and say Granny go to town.
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: I guess the doctors are not allowing that. All right, well,
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: good luck Granny. I personally can't relate to Granny's plight
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: because I have never had this problem in my life.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: I have the other problem, the opposite type of problem.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: It flows too freely for me. Can we move on
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: to here?
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry?
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Oh shoot, okay, I forgot for a moment where an
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: actual sports.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Show speaking a backed up. This segment's backed up.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: I thought we were just kind of like a listener
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: life advice show.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: The first second ago. All right, anyway, okay, so let's
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: do this Bone. This stat amazes me. Eighteen of the
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: last nineteen years, at least one of the top ten
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: teams in the AP preseason poll has been outside of
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: the top twenty five entirely by the end of the season.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: Last year was an extreme. Last year, Penn State and
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: Clemson were both in the top four and both ended
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: up unranked. LSU was nine. They ended up unranked, So
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: it was three teams last year. Here, let's read off
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: the top ten for everybody, and you guys could play
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: the home game with us. Feel free to text in
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: the stats show at least one of these schools bone
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: will be out of the top twenty five completely. Who
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: do we think the flop's gonna be? Ohio State one,
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: Oregon two, Georgia three, Notre Dame four, Texas five, Indiana six,
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: Miami seven A and m eight nine.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma ten.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: Hmmm, I think you and I think the first candidate
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: is the same team.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: Is it just me or does it feel like a
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: really strong top ten. I know we've said there's about
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: seven contenders and then there might be a little bit
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: of a drop off, but I feel like there's not
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: a lot of obvious teams to take out of there,
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: except for maybe I'm not trying to have the same
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: answer as the A and M. Feels very I don't
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: know who else is because we're talking about going all
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: the way out right. We're not talking about just dropping
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: out of the top ten. You gotta get out. We're
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: talking about we're talking about you all the way dropping
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: to the to the outside the pole here. I think
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: A and M is the obvious answer, because I don't
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: see pass there or the other nine are gonna drop
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: all the way out of this thing.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: A and M.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: Last year, Bone played one game as an underdog. Ironically,
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: they won it against Notre Dame, but they were saying
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: it the last second passed. They were favored in every
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: other game during the regular season. I feel like Bone
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: South Carolina's first half against them, the loss to Texas
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: and then the loss to Miami in the in the playoff.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: I feel like they got a little exposed that A
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: and M was a product of their schedule last year,
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: and they don't get that type of schedule this year
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: at all. They're at LSU at Alabama this year at Oklahoma,
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: they've got Texas, They've got there at South Carolina. I
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: just a Tennessee at home. I just don't think it's
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: gonna go the way it went last year. Plus they
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: lost ten guys to the NFL. But I guess it's
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: kind of boring because you and I are both saying
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: the same team. Who else? I mean, we've got people
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: saying Indiana on the text line, we have multiple Well,
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: there's complainer in chief Miami. Two K tone says Miami.
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: A lot of new pieces in mensa was a late ad,
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: A late ad. He was added in January. It wasn't
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: added that way. He was there the whole spring. He
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: wasn't added that way. It was just it was late
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: in the portal. He was not late in the offseat.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: A lot of people are saying Miami, this is I
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: think they're in for a root awakening. This is interesting.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: I am personally expecting now we just went over all
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: my bad predictions earlier on in the hour Bone, but
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: I am personally expecting Crystaball to have them as a
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: factor on the regular. First of all, in the ACC
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: you only play so many tough games. Secondly, the talent
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: level that he is getting in there. And I know
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: the concerns are they lost Bina mesidor they lost Malikoah
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: on the offensive line, But I just I think they've
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: got enough through the portal or remaining I mean, on
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: both of those lines to be good enough. And I
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: just think the skill talent on offense and the back
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: seven talent on defense I think is special. Now to mention,
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: don't you think their quarterback's better?
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Bone?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, is he is better?
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: No?
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: I think Miami in Miami. Also, by the way, Mack,
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: that monkey's off the shoulder. Now for Mario Cristibal, the
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: questions about his coaching, is he the guy? Is it
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: the same as always as Miami back. They can now
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: play back with the confidence that Miami wants to play
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: with because they now know that they're good again. For
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: a while there they were trying to get good again.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: Miami now has a ride to the scene. So now
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: I expect them to have a level of dominance that
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: they haven't really had in a while.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: They do need to avoid in the regular season losing
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: a game or two that they shouldn't, you know what
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: That's been a very Miami thing.
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: But the role they got on in that playoff man
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: spoke volumes to me.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: We're getting some Old Miss on here.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, the problem is, I can see it,
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: but they have two studs in that backfield.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: The problem is, I look at Chamblis and Lacy Lacey
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: maybe a better player than Shambles overall, by the way.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: That might be the best quarterback and best running back
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: in the.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: I want to say Old Miss because of coaching. Shade's
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: schedule is not easy. It's it's Louisville, LSU, and Florida
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: in the first four, three to the first four. It's
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: Texas in there, it's Georgia, it's Oklahoma. It's a tough schedule.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: But I don't think Old Miss Mack will be bad.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: And we're talking about falling out out of the top
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: twenty teh you got to go all the way out.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: If All Miss ended up seventeenth, I don't think he
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: is falling out of the top twenty.
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: I do wonder about Pete Golding though, right, Like we
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: don't know about him as a head coach, Like I don't.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: I know that he did a good job, think they're
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: a national title contender, but they're not falling out of
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: the top ten.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: I know he did a good job last year Bone
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: when when Leno left him, But I almost feel like
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: he used that to rally the troops, almost like they
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: played with a chip on their shoulder. Now he's got
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: to do it for a full season. Do we know
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: this guy's ahead coach? He's a guy that was perfectly
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: content being a coordinator and now he is the head coach.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: So I do think there are some questions there about
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: Old Miss. Why so many Indiana We're by the way,
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: if you just join us talking about teams that could
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: drop out of the top ten. Eighteen the last nineteen years,
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: a team in the preseason AP top ten has finished
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: on ranked. So we're trying to figure out who the
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: top ten team is. It'll come all the way out.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: Why so many Hoosiers ones? Like I think the Hoosiers
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: can win it. I wouldn't be shocked if they repeated.
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: I think they're literally Bone one of the three or
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: four best teams in the count Should we warned our
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: wesson yet about Indiana.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I've been there before.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: I've tried to will it in existence that they're gonna
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: end up becoming Indiana again. At some point we just
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: have to tip our hats and say that they are
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: a great program.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: They are the national champs, and I'm no longer.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: Doubting sig and that dude is going to have them
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: as a great football team. Yeah, I feel like people
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: still have every year. Every year.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna doubt this man, complainer in chiefs back again.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Bone.
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He must be high as a kite.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: He's high on heel's optimism. He says, Miami has lost
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: four or five starting O lineman. It's gonna take them
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: some time to jail. That's definitely one of the questions.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: But I'm telling you that can't well.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: Kid is a five stars, one of the best offensive
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: linemen in their coach in a long time, and their
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: coaches specialty is coaching O line man.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I doubt that unit