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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthering Up??? · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh. This
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  Speaker 2: is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 1: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Do it live.
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  Speaker 1: It's focus.
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  Speaker 4: It's intentionality. It's understanding that all the little things matter. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the game, when I think about the turnovers
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  Speaker 4: and different things like that, it all comes down to
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  Speaker 4: fundamental football. And that's controllable. That's something that we certainly
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  Speaker 4: can focus on. And the refocus to coming into a
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  Speaker 4: new week is, look, we just got to recapture our process.
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  Speaker 4: We got to work on our fundamentals, our identification, our
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  Speaker 4: alignments on the defensive side, special teams wise, being in
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  Speaker 4: the right spots in the coverage unit. The return certainly
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  Speaker 4: securing the ball, all those things. So it returns, it's humbling,
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  Speaker 4: and it returns us to a focus about what matters.
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  Speaker 4: It's the littlest things. It's the fundamentals of football. And
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  Speaker 4: so that gives me an opportunity to really press into
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  Speaker 4: it and really challenge the guys. And today was a
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  Speaker 4: great example of that, a great response by the guys,
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  Speaker 4: being very conscientious in what we're doing.
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  Speaker 5: That is Coach Canales asked about the tenor of the
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  Speaker 5: locker room this week as they try to pull themselves
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  Speaker 5: back together, get themselves together tonight, primetime, literally primetime, on
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  Speaker 5: prime tonight. Um, uh, Panthers and Packers, they've got a
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  Speaker 5: chance to rebound a chance to not completely erase. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not sure they can ever erase bone what they did
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  Speaker 5: on Sunday. It was shameful, should be a felony, but, um,
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  Speaker 5: they can certainly, um, go, you know, they, they could
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  Speaker 5: certainly turn it back around, have a, they win this
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  Speaker 5: game bone. I feel like we're right back to the
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  Speaker 5: confidence of, okay. Um, but, but I will say this,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think we'll be confident in the next game. Um,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think we'll be believing they're going to do
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  Speaker 5: it two times in a row.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of a swing game in some ways, though.
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  Speaker 3: A win here, and you go, okay, you're feeling a
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  Speaker 3: whole lot better. You've got Denver at home next with
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  Speaker 3: time off. I don't even know if a loss, Mac,
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  Speaker 3: would be detrimental to the psyche of the fan base.
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  Speaker 3: A no-show would be a horrible thing to have because
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  Speaker 3: it would be– No show Sunday, no show today, and
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  Speaker 3: then we got a long time until they play again
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  Speaker 3: to kind of have to sit in that one. So
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  Speaker 3: I think that showing up tonight goes a long way,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they will.
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  Speaker 2: A blowout loss, I think, would be a horrible thing tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I would be... I don't think they are, but yes.
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  Speaker 5: I was going to say, I would be shocked if
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  Speaker 5: we are not in a very close football game tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Feels like it.
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  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 5: I was shocked last Sunday. I was shocked when they
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  Speaker 5: gave up 59 to the Bears. This team has shocked
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  Speaker 5: me before. Packers are good. They're all right. They're not great. No,
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  Speaker 5: as evidenced by the spread. And they're bagged up as
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  Speaker 5: much as the Panthers are. What is the point spread?
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  Speaker 5: Like three and a half? Three and a half. So
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  Speaker 5: it's very even. So you move that to a neutral site,
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  Speaker 5: they got the Packers by a half point. So, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean? In a place where they won
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  Speaker 5: a year ago. This ain't– as a 13-point underdog. This
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  Speaker 5: is not like last year's lead-up where Vegas is like,
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  Speaker 5: these guys are going to get killed. Now, I did notice, Bone,
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  Speaker 5: our friend Michael Bell, that we used to– diehard Panther fan.
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  Speaker 5: He's great on social media that we used to work
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  Speaker 5: with here at the station. He always puts up the
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  Speaker 5: NFL media predictions, like 10 people from NFL.com, NFL media predictions.
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  Speaker 5: And nine of them picked the Packers to win this game.
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  Speaker 5: The only NFL media member, Bone, that picked us to
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  Speaker 5: win was Scooter Magruder. And I'm not even sure that's
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  Speaker 5: a real person.
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  Speaker 2: He's actually big time. I have never. That was cracking
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  Speaker 2: me up.
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  Speaker 3: I just found out he existed about five minutes ago.
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  Speaker 3: Panthers all-time record back at Lambeau. Three wins and six losses.
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  Speaker 3: But one of those wins was the great. The never-ending
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  Speaker 3: run of one Stephen Eugene Berwine back in 1999.
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  Speaker 2: That is true.
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  Speaker 5: The slowest, the slowest run that wasn't 40 yards or
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  Speaker 5: more ever.
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  Speaker 2: So what do y'all think?
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  Speaker 5: Canalison is, since the start of Canalison's second season, the
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  Speaker 5: Panthers are 8-3. after losses we've given we've given you
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  Speaker 5: all the stats all week about leading up to the
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  Speaker 5: green bay game last week no one last year no
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  Speaker 5: one expected him to do it they lost to the
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  Speaker 5: bills by 30 the rams game last year they were
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  Speaker 5: a huge underdog in that game bone uh uh double
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  Speaker 5: digits Weren't expected to win that game.
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  Speaker 2: They won that game.
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  Speaker 5: Atlanta, they rebounded from the 59-point debacle of the Bears
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  Speaker 5: to beat Atlanta by 31, albeit with the long firm
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  Speaker 5: of Russian Strand playing quarterback. So I want to know,
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  Speaker 5: do y'all believe in the Panther bounce-back narrative? Do you
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  Speaker 5: believe we're going to see them do that tonight? Or
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  Speaker 5: are the visions of what happened on Sunday making it
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  Speaker 5: impossible to see that?
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  Speaker 2: It seems like you kind of believe in the bounce back.
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  Speaker 3: I do, but it's a very complex, nuanced thing here
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  Speaker 3: because I do believe in Bryce Young being much better
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  Speaker 3: than he showed us on Sunday and being more about
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  Speaker 3: who he is for the totality of the year. But
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  Speaker 3: for Bryce to be at his highest level, well, the
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  Speaker 3: offensive line has to perform at a high level. So
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  Speaker 3: it's weird that I do believe in Bryce, but yet
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  Speaker 3: my biggest concerns are with– the entire offensive line right now.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the problem. If the offensive line holds up,
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  Speaker 3: I think the Panthers can win. But right now, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think anyone truly knows on either offensive line here
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  Speaker 3: on both sides. I don't think anyone truly knows until
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  Speaker 3: we see this game play out how that's going to
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  Speaker 3: go tonight. It's a lot of questions on both sides tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I just, to me.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to be a ballgame. I feel really strongly
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  Speaker 5: about that. Now, granted, I thought we were winning the
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  Speaker 5: game last week. I've been wrong a time or two, Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Every now and then. Ask my wife. She'll point out
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  Speaker 2: a couple of times. Not many, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 5: But I just feel like, based on what we've seen
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  Speaker 5: from this team, they're going to rally together. They're going
• 6:29
  Speaker 5: to us against the world. I think they seem to
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  Speaker 5: like it when people are down on them. They seem
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  Speaker 5: to like it when people ain't giving them a chance.
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  Speaker 5: Their biggest problem is, oh, you won two in a row?
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  Speaker 5: You're now expected to win this game. And not only
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  Speaker 5: are you expected, but the last two weeks, national media
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  Speaker 5: has been praising you and your quarterback. That's the spot that,
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  Speaker 5: for some reason, Bone, they wet.
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  Speaker 2: Their pampers over. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: I don't, I don't really understand why, but this is
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  Speaker 5: a spot. I really believe there's something to this, that
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  Speaker 5: this group galvanizes. Now I will agree. The offensive line
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  Speaker 5: is scary. There's no doubt about it. When you take
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  Speaker 5: away consistent forces like Lewis, who won't play tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, Moten who.
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  Speaker 5: Won't play the rest of the year. I, but I
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  Speaker 5: will say is.
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  Speaker 2: This is the exact same line that played against Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: And they did a great job in game planning against
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  Speaker 3: Hutchinson in that game when there's not a Hutchinson on
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  Speaker 3: this line because he's not playing yet.
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  Speaker 2: So why can't we try?
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  Speaker 5: I know it's not Detroit's defense, but can we try
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  Speaker 5: to run the ball to get in favorable down-distance situations
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  Speaker 5: so you're not in third and long where they can
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  Speaker 5: pin their ears back?
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  Speaker 2: Can you.
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  Speaker 5: Get the quick passing game going like you did against
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  Speaker 5: Detroit if you're worried about this O-line. Because I will
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  Speaker 5: point out, this O-line group, Bone, was there for the
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  Speaker 5: best win.
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  Speaker 2: Of the season.
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  Speaker 3: And I think with the Packers' offensive line problems, I'm
• 7:58
  Speaker 3: expecting a... vintage derrick brown performance tonight i think we're
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  Speaker 3: due for one where he wrecks shop i think derrick
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  Speaker 3: brown he knows he's not been at his best he
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  Speaker 3: knows how much the team needs him you don't think
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  Speaker 3: that guy's embarrassed of what that defense has been a
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  Speaker 3: part of multiple times this year i'm expecting the highest
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  Speaker 3: level of derrick brown and i unless there's a Some
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  Speaker 3: injuries that we don't know about and it's really affecting them.
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  Speaker 3: If Derrick Brown is healthy and just playing poorly, I
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  Speaker 3: expect him tonight to wreak havoc against that interior of
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  Speaker 3: the Packer offensive line. Derrick Brown tonight cuts through the cheese.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that whole breakdown was setting up that line, man.
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  Speaker 3: It was just, you just putting it on a platter to.
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  Speaker 2: Finish it off. No, I thought about it about halfway through.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay. The fact that I made a cut the
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  Speaker 3: cheese line if he didn't laugh is really. You're disappointed
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  Speaker 3: in Panther Cutting? That was built for him.
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  Speaker 6: I'm mature.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, in case you missed the show, he's now known
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  Speaker 2: as Tiny Archibald.
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  Speaker 6: No, that's not happening.
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  Speaker 2: You don't like that one?
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  Speaker 7: No, you want to start calling me Spud, Marlo? I'm
• 8:57
  Speaker 7: here to be called Spud because I love potatoes. I'm
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  Speaker 7: a big believer in potatoes, a big advocate for potatoes.
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  Speaker 6: Tiny Archibald? Let's be honest, that's too long of a
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  Speaker 6: name for you to pronounce anyway.
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  Speaker 2: It is maybe a little too wordy.
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  Speaker 5: That seems to be the criticism we're getting, Bone, is
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  Speaker 5: that even though it fits because Fitty is both tiny
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  Speaker 5: and bald.
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  Speaker 6: Now you want to call me Tiny Fit? I don't
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  Speaker 6: really hate that.
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  Speaker 3: If Colin signs off because he owns the rights to
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  Speaker 3: your name, if he calls you Spud, then you're just
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: going to be Spud from now on. You are kind
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  Speaker 3: of respectfully potato-shaped a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody said, what about Smugsy? Small and smug. Does that work?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not smug, though. No, not at all, Fit. Good point.
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  Speaker 5: Walls would like Bone to do the pep talk today.
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  Speaker 5: He seems to think you got it inside you today, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Well, don't ask the former leader of the pep club
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  Speaker 3: to do a pep talk. I'll make us a sign
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  Speaker 3: and run through it.
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  Speaker 2: You know that was my role, right? Is that what
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: you did? Those paper signs and then the team runs
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  Speaker 2: through it? Yeah, I had to make those. Oh, dude.
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  Speaker 7: Did you ever not get through the sign bone?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't run through the sign. He just made it.
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  Speaker 2: I made the signs. Oh, that's even worse.
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  Speaker 3: Think about this, Mac. Think about my athletic prowess back then.
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  Speaker 3: I had to watch my friend to run through the sign.
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  Speaker 3: But they were damn good signs.
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  Speaker 5: Packers offensive line has really struggled, especially in run block.
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  Speaker 5: And pass protection numbers are a lot better. But the
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  Speaker 5: run block has been really bad. But they're missing Glover,
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  Speaker 5: their right guard. They're missing Ryan, their starting center. off
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  Speaker 5: an offensive line that already is 31st in run blocking grade.
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  Speaker 5: I just think they're going to be one-dimensional tonight. I
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  Speaker 5: think the run defense of games two through five reappears
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  Speaker 5: tonight because I think the Packers' run game is not capable.
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  Speaker 5: I also think, Bone, you've got to commit. To do
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  Speaker 5: what the Bears did to us, what the Bucks did
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  Speaker 5: to us, and sadly what 10 other teams have done
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  Speaker 5: to us in the Ajiro Vero era. But you have
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  Speaker 5: to really commit to the run game. The Packers don't
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: commit to the run game. The Packers' rush rate is
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  Speaker 5: the lowest in the league. Their pass percentage is the highest.
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  Speaker 5: They air it out. So I feel like it's a
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  Speaker 5: game where if it's Marco Wilson, who Mike Kay says
• 11:06
  Speaker 5: is getting called up from the practice squad because Evans
• 11:08
  Speaker 5: is out, if it's Marco Wilson and Will Lee, those
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  Speaker 5: are the guys– against Watson and Golden if he plays,
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  Speaker 5: Jordan Love is tied for first in deep balls completed
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  Speaker 5: in the league.
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  Speaker 2: Bryce is third, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: So I just feel like, Bone, they can't resist the
• 11:25
  Speaker 5: temptation to go after our young corners. And I don't
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  Speaker 5: think we have to worry about this team that's going
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  Speaker 5: to want to pound the foot, unless they do a
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: complete about-face and try to hit us with an okey-doke,
• 11:35
  Speaker 5: you know?
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  Speaker 3: Where's Green Bay Mac in time of possession? Because it
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: can't be that high up, right, the way they play?
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  Speaker 2: Definitely can't.
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  Speaker 3: They don't run the ball in the deep shots. It's
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  Speaker 3: not going to be a heavy, heavy... heavy possession time
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  Speaker 3: tonight for the Packers.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to move.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to go quickly, whether it's three and out or,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they're getting yards in a chunk. It's not
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  Speaker 3: a team that's going to have the ball for very long.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think.
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  Speaker 5: So why don't we then try to possess the ball
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  Speaker 5: and put Jordan Love standing on that heated bench?
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  Speaker 2: They're 29th in offensive time of possession.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what happens when you run it the
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  Speaker 5: least amount in the league and the least effective in
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  Speaker 5: the league.
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  Speaker 3: I guess that would be possession, I guess, offensive time.
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  Speaker 3: I guess that is possession.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why. It says it on here, but
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know why it says it on there like that.
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  Speaker 5: So, yeah, how about we come out running for the
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  Speaker 5: first real time this year and get the quick passing
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  Speaker 5: game going with it, get some confidence in our O-line maybe,
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  Speaker 5: open up some holes, and how about we keep, again,
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  Speaker 5: Jordan Love, Keep that fanny over there on that heated
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  Speaker 5: bench in Lambeau, Boney. Keep his cheeks nice and toasty.
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: I'm looking out for you, Giorno.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: Keep your moons warm, poor Willie P. Keep that waning
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  Speaker 2: gibbous warm. I don't want it. One rule of life
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  Speaker 2: that I have is I don't want my gibbous to wane. Oh, God.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, Mack, you don't have a good point
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  Speaker 7: with the run game. I thought Izzik was committed to
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  Speaker 7: the run on Sunday until the game flow dictated him.
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  Speaker 1: Not to be.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing is they had no chance. We also,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: at some point, poor Chuba.
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  Speaker 7: Can he have a big run that stands without one
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  Speaker 7: of these offensive linemen committing some penalty that brings it all?
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  Speaker 6: Now, look, I thought the Trimble hold on Sunday was pathetic.
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  Speaker 2: To me, that was not a hold.
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  Speaker 6: I thought that was just blocking.
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  Speaker 2: Hated that call.
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  Speaker 6: But has there been a running back?
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  Speaker 7: In the NFL to have more yards taken away from
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  Speaker 7: him because of penalty than Chuba Hubbard this year.
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  Speaker 6: Because it feels like every time he has a big run,
• 13:30
  Speaker 6: there's a flag.
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  Speaker 5: And it's good that you bring up penalties because Bone
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  Speaker 5: was saying which offensive line can hold up could be
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: the game. I also think penalties is very important. Green Bay,
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: believe it or not, commits more penalties than we do
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  Speaker 5: per game. I was shocked. They commit the most in
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: the league, Bone, per game. Panthers are now 4th. We're
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: actually got three teams, bigger knuckleheads than we are.
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  Speaker 2: Rob Hudson, watch this. So let's see. Can we get out?
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: He's going to water to a tailgate on a play. Oh, well,
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: I'm down here. I'm going to grab a brat, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, shoot.
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  Speaker 5: Did I go too far on this pass play? So
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: the Packers, maybe the Packers help us out. Packers are
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  Speaker 5: also number one in drops in the NFL. So for
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  Speaker 5: all Jordan Love's 15 deep completions, Bone. And all the
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: stuff that he's been doing in the passing game and
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  Speaker 5: Watson's been doing and Golden's been doing, those receivers have.
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  Speaker 2: Dropped 21 passes. So can they help us?
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: Can they keep doing the drop thing and the penalty
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  Speaker 5: thing and help us out a little bit tonight? Jordan
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  Speaker 5: Love also boned 12 turnover-worthy plays, according to PFF. That's
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: a pretty high number. Can Jordan Love give it to
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: us tonight? This defense has not forced turnovers really outside
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: the Bears.
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  Speaker 3: Matt, do you remember the last time the Packers played
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: on Thursday night football?
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  Speaker 2: The Falcons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, week three at home, they got destroyed. That's where
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: the Falcons really started to feel, oh, we might be
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: pretty good. Then, of course, they've been up and down.
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  Speaker 3: But they lost by 21 to Atlanta. And Atlanta team, oh,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, that was reeling at the quarterback spot
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  Speaker 3: going into that game.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: Yes, and Jordan Love at that point was playing pretty bad.
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: Since then, he's really turned it up. I would love
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: to get that version of Love. I don't think we're
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: going to, though. I feel like he'll play well tonight, Bone.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: If they run it on us, that's a damn shame.
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  Speaker 2: They're also beat Chicago 31-7-2, so they're very up and
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: down like everybody else is in this league.
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  Speaker 5: That was the one where they forced five turnovers from
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: the Bears in that game. Secret Bajet man.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Was it him? It was him in that game, right,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: that kept turning it over? Yes.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was one. Again, don't hand them the
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: ball five times. You know, that's part of the formula.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: You handed the ball three times to the Bears in
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: a blowout loss. You handed the ball four times to
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: the Bucs in a blowout loss. Green Bay's number one
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: in turnover. Xavier McKinney is number one in interceptions, and
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: the Packers are number one in interceptions. So, like, Bryce,
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: you got to go back to taking care of this
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: football like you did the first five games, broski.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: You got to, man. Textures seem to be all over
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: the place.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: There is a little bit more textures than I thought
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: that are picking the Panthers to win because they just
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: kind of feel like they know this team and this
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: is the spot they went in. You do have this
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: 9-8-0 number. Mack, bounce back, my hiney. This season is over.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: We can start talking.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Draft, fellas. So there you go. He does not believe
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: in bounce backs. Interesting.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we're going to talk to Sam
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Farber of the Hornets Radio Network, both about the performance
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: of Brandon Miller, the loss last night, and just his
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: takeaway of the Nas Reid situation on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: It's happening, man. It is happening, Bone.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: We talked about the NFL media members were 9 out
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: of 10, picked the Packers to beat the Panthers. Now
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: ESPN on GetUp has a graphic up where 4 for 4.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: have picked the Packers over the Panthers. Isn't this the
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: spot that we actually ball out, man?
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: It just is.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: The Bustin' with the Boys crew might be the guys
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: that are more wrong than we are, so this is
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: great news for us. I just don't know. Do I
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Panther up? I'm starting to believe I'm bad luck.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: So you're just now starting to believe that stuff?
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: It's a small sample.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: We got 20 years of evidence to say you suck.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I needed.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Once we got about 21 years in, then I started
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: feeling like we had a big enough sample size. It's
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: like everybody used to say about Taylor Swift when she
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: would write all the songs about what was wrong with
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: all her boyfriends. And people would say, maybe you're the problem.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I'm just starting to figure out maybe I am the problem.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: Maybe.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Go figure.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: Your curse can drink. Now you believe in it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: All right that's why people have a lot of bad blood.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Anyway there you go there you go all right let's
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: um uh let's bring in a man and i feel
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: like this is a good day for this man not
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: only because we've got a hornets game to recap and
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: some juicy storylines but also bone because i remember this
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: man trying to tell me when the whole free world
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: was picking the rams including us to beat the panthers
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: this man said the panthers will win and i'll be
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: damned if they got it done Sam Farber, voice of
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: your Charlotte Hornets with us for his weekly visit.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Sam, what's going on, brother? How you doing?
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: We're doing great. Road trip off to a little bit
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: of a rocky start there with the loss of Detroit.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: But you know what? Hornets above 500 will take it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Haven't even gotten the full roster on the floor just yet.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: So the best is yet to come.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, man.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Sam, before we get into Brandon Miller's performance and all
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: that stuff, we have to ask your thoughts on what
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: transpired last night. Nas Reed does not play in the
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: second half. Charles Lee explains it was not illness, it
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: was not injury. He did not meet the standards of
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: the team, and they hope that he will going forward.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on what transpired last night from
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: what you know?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, in a certain sense, like obviously they're
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to see the game and have been around the team
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: but have not heard specifically from Nas, have not heard
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: further from Coach on what exactly it was. I think
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of layers to this. For one, I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: think Nas deserves a lot of credit. There are times
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: that something like this will happen and the player you know,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: will be seen in a certain way, you know, acting
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: a certain way on the bench. And that wasn't the case.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Nas was engaged. He was talking to teammates. He was,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to pick up his team and do
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: what he could to aid the team along. So I
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: think he deserves a lot of credit for that. And,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you know, look, this team has higher aspirations than just
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: winning a 40 to 45 games and making the play in.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And part of that is accountability and, and meeting the standard.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And so, you know, I expect we will hear more about,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you know, what, what exactly, or at least coach will
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: be asked more about what exactly transpired. And, and now
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: it's probably will as well. And I think the team
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: is going to, you know, rally around one another and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: take that next step and become an even better ball club. But,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: but obviously, you know, it had an impact. not having
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: him on the floor for the second half last night
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and a winnable game. But it's not about one game.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: It's about what you can do at the end of 82.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: That's what I got.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Why am I going to fight with it? My hand
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: is stuck in the microphone thing. So I keep pulling.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I apologize to my partner here. He's getting, he's getting
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: beat up in the paint by the microphone. I'm disheveled
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: over here, Sammy.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: It's game day.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I'm a little shook by what happened last night in Detroit.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I heard that thing rattled twice. Like you threw
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a punch or something.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: I couldn't get it out. It was in there two times.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: All right, Sammy, let's continue the conversation about this. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: do want to get to Brandon Miller because I think
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: he is proving that he's got things in that bag that,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe we didn't see when he had, you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: LaMelo with with him. But let's talk about the Nas
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: Reed thing a little more. were you shocked by this?
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Because I was shocked. A, I never really thought Nas
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: would be a guy that just, you know, that ever
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: would be like, oh, you're below a team standard. So
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: I was with his reputation. And then two, I didn't
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: really think Charles Lee had this in him. The full benching,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: the calling him out with Shannon Spake and telling everybody
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: he didn't meet the standard. That's why we we benched him.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I thought he's a little, was it a little more
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: subtle and maybe not like this much of a, of
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: a hard ass for lack of a better term.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: How surprised were you by this development?
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You know, it's clearly a bit out of the blue.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Cause I mean, just prior to the game and rightfully
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: so Nas was being delivered praise by coaches and again,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: deservedly so for what he brings to the table, his
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: experience and, And that level of accountability. So, you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I can see how it is perhaps a bit confusing. But,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you know, the world is scary and confusing and stressful
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and exhausting. And basketball is all of that, but in
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: a good way. And so, you know, I think there
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: are lessons to be taken away from, you know, what happened.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think at this point we know everything about it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: There's just, you know, the initial item that we saw.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: There is the quote that we have from Coach. There
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: aren't further details, and I don't know if we're going
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to get all of the details on this, but I
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: do expect, given the character of Nas and the way
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that Coach has developed these relationships with his players, that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: we're going to see everyone go to a better, higher
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: level moving forward.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Sam, on a more positive note, Brandon Miller appears like–
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: You know, that star turn is happening for him right now.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Was already approaching that, but the last few games, man,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: he has been everything you could want. What's your assessment
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: of Brandon Miller's game? Not just the scoring, but the
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: full game that's been on display here.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I think he's a superstar. I think that's what we're
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: seeing here. Three consecutive 30-point games. He's never done that
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: in his career. He's the only player in the NBA
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: so far this season to have accomplished that. And there
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: are some very talented scorers across the NBA, as we
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: well know. But on top of that is that the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: team is winning. And they're winning without having the full roster.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I get three and two. You're one off night away
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: from being below 500. But they're not. They're winning these games.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: One game was just a total stinker across the board,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and even the loss last night, you can make the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: argument that Brandon, in terms of superstar power, was going
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: far from full strength. Conor Knieppel's not out there yet.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Kobe White's not out there yet. Grant Williams is not
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: out there yet. Nas Reed didn't play in the second half,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and still the team had a shot to win going
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: down the stretch because Brandon Miller has been playing so well.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I look at him compared to the guy on the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: other side last night, Cade Cunningham, And I don't see
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a reason why Brandon can't continue to elevate and reach
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that level, particularly when some of those high-level running mates
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: who are just stars in their own right in an
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: offensive and defensive way are there to assist him and
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: take some of the pressure off of him. But right now,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: with the entire focus of a really good defensive Detroit
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: team laser-focused on him, he was still able to go
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: for 30 and still almost won the game on the road.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: So he has been extremely impressive here.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. You said it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: It's all NBA potential when you watch. I mean, you're
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: seeing him become a professional scorer right in front of
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: our eyes. And 12 rebounds last night. 12 boards last
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: night was huge, too. Just get him the dang ball
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: and get out of the way. And I'm with you, man.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: He'll become more efficient when we get Khan and Kobe there,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: and he won't have to maybe take the tough shots
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: he's taken. But, dang, if he is not making a
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: bunch of tough get-to-your-spots, play-through-contact shots.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, there'll be nights. I love it, man.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Sam, there'll be nights when if Khan is red hot
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: or Kobe wipes out a big night, there'll be nights
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: when Brandon Miller might be the— the second option at
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: certain nights, or, you know, that pushes Nas Reid down.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: To the fourth option on offense.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: That's a heck of a, that's a heck of a
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: starting group there once they all get back.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And like, you know, that's the issue, you know, talking
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to the Detroit folks, that's the thing, the problem that
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: in some people around theirs opinions, they did not solve
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: in the rosters they made. Like John Collins is a
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: good player and, But they were looking for a number
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: two star, a second all-star who you can give the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: ball to. Not that Jalen Dern isn't an all-star, but
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's a different kind of player.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: He's more in the vein of a star rebounder, defensive presence,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: different kind of guy, very valuable, but different kind of player.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Same thing with Asar Thompson, valuable player, not someone you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: can hand the ball to and say, get us a bucket.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: And so, you know, they, for all their success last year,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: were looking for someone like Brandon Miller. And in Brandon,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: they've got, the Hornets have a superstar, but they also
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: have players like Tom Hennepel and Kobe White and Nas Reed,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: who you can say, hey, get us a bucket, because
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: we know the defense is focused on Brandon right now,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: which means you've got a one-on-one matchup against a defender
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: we'd like to attack.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Yep, well said. No doubt about it. So coming up next,
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: it's on the road. I think I called it a
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: home game earlier. We already played Washington at home, Bonesy.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: On the road. Way back on Monday. Against Washington.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: And then it's back home again for the big Halloween
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: game against LeBron and the Sixers.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I did want to— How about that? Philadelphia, Detroit, Boston, Cleveland,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the next home games. That's a heck of a— A
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: good grouping there. A tough grouping, though. Yeah, they really
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: need Friday night. If only back there was a guy
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: that could give us the number for tickets for those games.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Sammy!
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting we have you here during this time, Sammy.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I am here to serve. Yes, we don't want to
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: squander this opportunity because the Hornets are playing good ball,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and we've got some really entertaining games coming up. Obviously,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Friday is a big one. Emirates NBA Cup opener for
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Charlotte at Washington. Hopefully everyone will tune in. It'll be
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: on WSOC Channel 9, our beloved ABC affiliate back home
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: in the Queen City. And then right back to work
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: on Saturday for a Halloween special against LeBron James, Jalen Brown,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey. and B.J. Edgecombe and the Philadelphia 76ers.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: It'll be night two of a back-to-back, but I believe
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: it's part of a back-to-back as well for Philadelphia. So
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: an opportunity there. And, you know, Halloween at the Hive,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: what could be better? So if you can resist trick-or-treating,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: just leave the bowl outside and come on out, dress
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: up if you'd like, and join us for some Halloween
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: hoops and tickets are available at Hornets.com.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I like it. Let's take LeBron's candy on Saturday night, y'all.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: By the way.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: At his age, it's probably Werther's. I need to know, though, Sam.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: I mentioned you in the intro. You were the one
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: telling us, well, you're going to beat the Rams, y'all.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Settle down.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: A lot of people don't believe they can beat the
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Packers after Sunday's game. Are you in the believer camp tonight, too?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I am 100% in the believer camp. Look, everyone has
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: an off night, okay? Bryce is having a brilliant season.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: He's having a brilliant season right now. He's becoming a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: superstar in his own right. I think defensively, we've seen
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the Panthers, unfortunately, have a couple of off nights. or
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: off days, I should say over the course of the season,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: they tend not to have two in a row. So
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I think the Packers are a good team, but I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: think the Panthers are a really good team as well.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: And I think they're going to respond.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I love it. Sammy, baby, the sunshine. He thinks he's
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: shining on the cats tonight.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Sammy.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Great job, brother. Keep up the good work calling the games.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys as well. And look for what are
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you dressing up as Saturday at the hive? I want
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to know what's the costume.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Are you dressing up, Boat?
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Are you dressing up? I don't have a costume. Are
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you dressing up, Sam?
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, you do, but you got that pirate costume.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. That's not out of the box yet
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: because of the Panthers. Are you dressing up, Sam, to
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: call the game?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I got to know a few. I can't go solo here.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: You know, I dress up when I go.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: You and EC.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Which I'm going to get to miss out on.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: Y'all need a deal, a play-by-play handshake on it that
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: you will both dress up Saturday night.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: That's what we need.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I love EC and Dell, but I'm a little nervous.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: They might say, hey, Sam, we're dressing up, and I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: could show up, you know, dress up, and they're like–
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with the radio guy here? I don't know.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: You should dress up as Lenny and Squiggy from Laverne
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: and Troy. You and EC together? Oh, that'd be good.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: That'd be good. I could see Sam being a Squiggy.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: He was a small one, right? I actually don't remember.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Lenny was the tall one. Yeah, you'd be a Squiggy,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like. All right. Anyway, what are we doing?
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: All right, Sam. Appreciate you, brother. Be good.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. Have a good one.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: All right, there you go. That is Sam Farber, voice
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: of the Hornets. People are now mad at him, Bo. Oh, really?
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Don't get mad at Squiggy Farber. Yeah, please do not.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: People keep bringing up.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: See on James, like why is see on James not benched? He's,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: you know, because of the way he's shooting, there's a
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: difference between missing shots and like an effort. And again,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: it's hard. And I will say this, this is the one,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: one point that a MIT made and a couple other
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: texters made that's fair. We don't know exactly what he
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: did that was below the standard. So we're all trying
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: to guess. We're looking at the video clips and all
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: this sort of thing.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: But we don't know.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: What I am defending Charles Lee for is if a
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: coach feels like someone is not meeting the standard and
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: wants to send a message to him and the entire team,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: I'm here for it. That's called coaching. So that's my
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: whole point today. But there's a difference bone between what
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: it feels like Nas Reed got benched for Whether it's effort, attitude,
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: I don't know. But I just can't imagine Charles Lee
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: would bench someone for a full half because, oh, he's
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: just not making shots.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, performance and standard are two completely different things.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: So that's what I'm trying to say. Now, do I
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: want Sion to play less minutes?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: I want Conn Knipple to come back and be the
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: starting shooting guard. I want Kobe White to come back
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: so actually Christian Anderson doesn't have to play the minutes too, Bone.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: And we can have Dennis Schroeder as the back. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: want all those things.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Mac, I have an update on Willie P's love of moons.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: That was a theme last hour in our group chat
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: that you're involved in. He could not believe in our school,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: our upbringing. We did not go through the moon phases
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: in school. He then says Finney got it wrong on
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: the air. And this is the last text I see
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: quote from Willie P in a text. A waning crescent
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: is right at the end before the new moon. A
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: waning gibbous is what we had last night. I know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: moon man. Don't play me.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: You do know, sir. Who are you trying to fool?
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Someone else asked us that. Do you not remember that
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: from school? We didn't have moon glass. Now, you're saying
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: you never learned it. What I am saying is, and
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: I thought most adults were like me, I have not
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: retained much of what I learned in school. And don't
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: let the kids hear this. If the kids are listening,
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: earmuff the kids right now. Because you are taught a
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: lot in school that you don't need to know to
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: actually be successful in your life. A bunch of crap.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: But anyway, I'm not good at remembering that stuff.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: We had the Jay Hardell moon incident where he mooned people,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: but we didn't have moon class. That was a whole
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: different separate thing there. There was a kid in school.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Moon the opposing fans.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And nobody said no teacher said, let me take
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: a moment here to point out that was a waning
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: gibbous right there.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: That move.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: No, no one want to see that crescent. When we
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: we have really gone off the rails here. We're having
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: a good time, though, when we come back here on
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: the Mac and Bone radio show. Obviously, I'm ready to
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: go to break here. Who is pantering up? Is anyone
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: expecting a bounce back tonight from the team? Our picks
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: are next. What will we do? What will Finney do?
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Stay tuned. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ, Mack and Bone with you.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: It's been a lively one, man.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: This Nas Reed benching and Charles Lee just basically telling
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: Shannon Spake, yeah, I did it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: He didn't meet the standards, so I did it.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: He sat out the whole half, and the Hornets went
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: from a seven-point lead to losing the game last night
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: in Detroit by eight, 97-89. They continue. And this is
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: the reason why people are mad. They continue to struggle
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: to score points. They only scored 38 in the second half.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: It's Brandon Miller or bust a lot. And I can't
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: stress enough that I am begging the sports gods to
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: give us Khan and Kobe back. But it doesn't sound
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: like we don't still have a timetable.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Matt, would you like a celebrity text that came in
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: during the break?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: What we got?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Just curious. What exactly is the standard? Sincerely, Grayson Allen.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: You see.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Hey, he's been fine. He's not a problem. He wasn't
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: the first guy to bench, all right? He's being good
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: out there so far.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: That is true. That is true. Did you.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: You see, Grayson made... Dare I say, good leadership from Grayson.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Grayson made Shaqton a fool last night. Did you see it?
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Yes, I did. I, by the way, I was watching
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: cause I was away. So when I watched Hornets nets,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: I was doing the thing where I was fast forwarding
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: through like the downtime and stuff.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Somehow I missed what he did against the nets. We
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: didn't even talk about the inbounds.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: He went and somebody, I forget who it was through
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: the inbounds pass to him. He grabbed it, stepped out
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: of bounds, and tried to throw the inbounds pass into
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: somebody else. Of course that's not legal. We had to
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: give possession up, but Shaq got on him. The boys
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: got on him last night, man. It's a bad moment.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: That's not bench-worthy, though.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: That's a knucklehead moment, but I believe that might not
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: be the standard bone of smart basketball, but I don't
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: believe that's going to be bench-worthy. All right, let's talk Panthers, though,
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: and this is the segment. All right, because coming up,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: we're pretty full here. in the last hour of the show.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: So coming up at nine o'clock, it's our usual, even
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: though it's game day, it's a Thursday, right? So our
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: usual Thursday conversation with Jones Angel. We can talk about
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: the heels and the controversial loss. I'm still not sure
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: that dude scored. to Syracuse and moving forward with Miami,
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: number one this week. Talk about the Charlotte game for
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: the basketball side. And then Ryan Wood, who covers the
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Packers in Green Bay, going to join us to kind
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: of know your enemy type thing, Bone, coming up at 925.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: And Husky Pants has agreed, Bone, to be the pep talker.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: We realized today we were not prepared. We were kind
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: of like the coaching staff on Sunday. We were not
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: prepared bone for a Thursday pep talker. So, uh, we've
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: gotten Husky pants to do it, but it comes with
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: a warning. He was at the dentist this morning and said,
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: he is talking with a lisp. I said, let's do
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: it anyway, baby. Let's power through.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: We have thousands of listeners, believe it or not. This
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: is what we came up with. Lisp happens. Lisp happens.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: A guy that might be drugged up and can't talk
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: is doing our pep talk. And that's above Sirloin the
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Beef who got benched. What's he feeling today? Sirloin's doing
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: a colonoscopy.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Sirloin right now is our Nas Reed.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: He's getting a colonoscopy today, Sirloin. So he's singing.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, is he really? Moon river. That's what he's singing
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: right now. Is he really?
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: So these were the options that were put in front
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: of us.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: Well, for the record, Mac volunteered me and bone rejected
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: me quicker than a woman.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: That was so funny. I said, what about Panther?
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: No, no. By the way, Moon River is not part
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: of the Willie P.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Educational experience. No, it is not. It is not.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: All right, anyway, let's have the conversation. Y'all can feel
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: free to chime in, too. We're talking about how we're
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: seeing all these graphics. The national media all seem to
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: be flocking to the Packers, who I need to point out, Bone,
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: are far from perfect. Four and three last place in
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: their division overall. all kinds of issues running the football bony.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: They have been far from great themselves, but they need
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: this one too. They're, they're sitting there four and three
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: in their division, four and three in our division bone
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: would be cause for celebration, a parade. Four and three
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: in the north has you in last place and in
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: desperation mode. So that's what we're up against. But our
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: boys have this track record of responding when doubted, when
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: we take an L.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: What do you think, Bone? Is this a Panther up occasion?
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: This is tough because I think it's going to be close,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: but my offensive line fears have me not taking the
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Panthers tonight.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I am taking Green Bay.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: 28 to 20 over the Panthers.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Sorry to do it, but I'm an honest journalist. You
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: couldn't go there. I have Green Bay winning tonight at home.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: When you say O-line concerns, you think their pass rush
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: gets after Bryce. You think we can't run it. We
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: think They get after Bryce and he turns it over.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Like, what do you think?
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: I think that the pass rush bothers Bryce to the
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: point where they can't put up enough points to compete
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: with the Packers offense, who I think will against the
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Panthers defense tonight.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: And that matchup of, I know Golden.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: is questionable, but Watson is going to be a major
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: problem for this defense.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I worry about that.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: The wide receivers didn't have to do anything against us
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: on Sunday, but tonight, Watson, he could eat tonight.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I don't take pride in this selection, by the way,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: but I got to be honest with my pick here.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: You're not happy with yourself, but you are being real.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: You're being true.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: And I respect it, Boney. I will say this.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: I would expect their quarterback to throw it more than
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: 11 times, and I would also expect him not to
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: have a Michael Jackson glove on. Those two things I
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: think will be true. Actually, if Jordan Love can throw it, well,
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: I'll sign that deal right now. If Jordan Love wants
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: to throw it 11 times tonight, let's sign the contract
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: right now. Put the game in the hands of that
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: crappy running game. Okay, I don't blame you.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I don't blame you.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Although an eight-point loss, although I feel like we've lost
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: to them by eight a lot. I was looking at
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: good scores the other day. But eight-point loss is, that's
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: more points than I would think.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Fit daddy. What do you say? Panther Fetty, are you,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: as if there's any doubt, Panthering up?
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: Hell yeah, I'm Panthering up, Mac. This is what Carolina does, man.
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: Just when you want to quit on them, quit believing
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: in them, like the national media and half our fan
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: base is already done after what happened on Monday, they'll
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: remind you why it's okay to believe in what Dave
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: Canales and what Bryce Young, what they are doing. Look,
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: it's a short week. On the road, all odds would
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: tell you to pick Green Bay. I think Bryce Young responds,
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: so I think Bryce Young will not have the turnovers
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: that he had on Sunday. Hopefully his offensive line blocks
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: a lot better. If not, Rasheed Walker might get cut,
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: and I would not necessarily be against that.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: The defense is going to take what happened.
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: To them Sunday personal, worried about those corners and what's
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: going to happen to them in the passing game, but
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a close game late.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: And I think that's when Bryce Young is usually at
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: his best. He'll be at his best tonight. I think
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: Carolina wins this one on the road.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: 27, 23.
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: He's our short week expert back.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Him and Bryce both. That's the thing. You're going to
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: doubt Bryce on a short week. Y'all seriously. Y'all going
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: to do that. I'm sorry, Bryce. I'm sorry.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: I really, here's the problem. I believe a lot of
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: what you're saying, man. Like I just believe they are
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: going to respond. They are going to play with an edge,
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: play angry tonight. I definitely though get bones concerns about
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: the O-line, no doubt about it. And do we have
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: pass rush without Phillips in this game? You know, we're
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: going to have to blitz, but Jordan Love's got a
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: 95 rating with seven tutties against a blitz this year.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I'm so torn.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: I also don't want to mess this game up tonight either.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: And I feel like I'm a problem. Don't watch. Now
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I can't even watch the games. I curse with just
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: my eyeballs.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: Tough crowd. I'm going to say they bounce back. Bryce
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: plays a lot better.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I really think they're going to win. Do it! I'm
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: going to say, you want me to do it? You
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: can't handle the truth.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: Say it.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: You want me on that wall? Say it, say it,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: say it, say it, say it, say.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: It, say it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: You need me on that wall?
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Or you walk up to the wall and then you
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: pick the backers. Your old okey-doke move. Packers 27-24. Go
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: scratch yourself. I do believe Finney this year. I hate
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: doing that. What was the game, Finney.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: This year where Mack and I both picked the opponent
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: and you picked Detroit?
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Was that it? I can't remember what it was. Yeah.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Where Finney was right. It worked against Detroit. Does history,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the old saying there, does history repeat itself? I really
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: hope so, guys. Does history repeat itself? Is this the formula?
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Me and Bone go against.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: Tonight's a big night. I'm watching this game with Maddie.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. This is good. Not smoke?
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: Not smoke.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: There's no postgame, so I'm going to run pregame. I'm
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: going to do the Mac thing. I'm going to rush
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: my ass, well, to her house.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, this could be the end of the relationship.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Once she sees Panther fitting, once she sees live sporting
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: event fitting.
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: She saw the other night, she saw me have to
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: watch UNC football lose to Syracuse.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: If she can handle that and stills around, then yeah,
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: I think this could be long-term then.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I have a question, Finney, an honest question.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: What's up, Boney?
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: When's the last time you've been home?
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: I was home for a little bit last night.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: I feel like Mackie's very nomadic right now in his travel.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: He is.
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: It was brought to my attention.
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: I had my beloved grandmother tell me Sunday morning that
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: she was disappointed in me.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Momo's not happy. Don't forget Momo. Wait till the girlfriend
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: says the same thing.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: That'll happen sooner rather than later. Poor Momo's being left alone.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Can we send somebody over?
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Send Flounder over there. Yeah, send Flounder over there to
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: hang out with Momo. That's a good call, Bo.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: When we come back, Jones Angel, Tar Heel Radio Network.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about the end of the Syracuse game, what's
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: coming up. against Miami and reaction from the Hoops win
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: over Charlotte as well.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.