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Red and Blue: Jarom Jordan on BYU's falling the 1st round, More shooting needed for the future (?), Spring FB + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Jerem Jordan, how are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm doing solid. How are you? Sean great man?
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  Speaker 3: It's good to be back. You know, two weeks away
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  Speaker 3: is a long time. A lot happens in yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I know right, it was eventful. I went to Kansas
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  Speaker 2: City and Portland, and you know it didn't come away
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  Speaker 2: with as many wins we were hoping for. But fun
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  Speaker 2: men's basketball season certainly had its ups and downs, and
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  Speaker 2: now we await the transferportal in the NBA draft.
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  Speaker 1: Man, Okay, let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: BYU basketball season started the year with a ton of optimism,
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  Speaker 3: a ton of hype. You know, one of the biggest
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  Speaker 3: stories in the entire country is AJ Debonsa being there
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  Speaker 3: for this particular season. And I know it didn't translate
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  Speaker 3: to the NCAA tournament run that a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: in Provo wanted it to. But AJ ended up being
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  Speaker 3: a great representative of the school, at least from what
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  Speaker 3: I was able to see. They won a lot of
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  Speaker 3: good games. They had seemingly packed crowds for every one
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  Speaker 3: of their games. I mean, yes, ultimately, you want a
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  Speaker 3: big twelve championship, you want an Ncinrael championship.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't get there.
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  Speaker 3: But how should BYU and its fans be looking at
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  Speaker 3: this season relative to expectations when it all started, and
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  Speaker 3: of course being realistic about what the injuries do to
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  Speaker 3: any good team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the injuries derailed this thing because the preseason external analysts,
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  Speaker 2: not US external analysts, were saying, this is a final
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  Speaker 2: four squad and so to bow out in the first
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  Speaker 2: round frankly, like straight up just raw, like unmitigated grade,
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  Speaker 2: like a d. You know, most disappointing season bo basketball
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  Speaker 2: history from that standpoint. But then when you dive in
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  Speaker 2: and you go, okay, well, what happened preseason injuries to
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  Speaker 2: Nate Pickens and Brodi Koslawski, these are your role players
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  Speaker 2: that would have come off the bench that hindered BYU
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  Speaker 2: right away. Then Dawson Baker tears his acl about a
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  Speaker 2: month end of the season. That's your primary bench score.
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  Speaker 2: Now you have no bench. It's one of your seniors,
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  Speaker 2: one of your culture core guys. Then when Richie Sundras
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  Speaker 2: goes down, you know, for the final seven or eight
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  Speaker 2: games of the season, that really affects you because he's
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  Speaker 2: one of the top twenty players. But we always ever
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  Speaker 2: had so it was just too much to overcome. Should
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  Speaker 2: be why you have still beaten Texas? With that said, yes,
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  Speaker 2: could they have hung with or beaten gun Zaga potentially,
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  Speaker 2: we'd like to think that maybe that would have been interesting,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll never know. And so it was a disappointing finish.
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  Speaker 2: But the injuries were way too big to overcome, and
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  Speaker 2: that's the story of the year outside of a J. D.
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  Speaker 2: Bonte was freaking awesome, led the nation in scoring, is
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  Speaker 2: going to be the number one pick, He's the first
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  Speaker 2: team All American. Somehow he's not the Pig twelve Player
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  Speaker 2: of the Year. I know they didn't win enough games,
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  Speaker 2: dot dot dot, but he was fun to watch. Man.
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  Speaker 2: He was worth every penny he was. He was great
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  Speaker 2: and I can't wait to watch the rest of his career. Man.
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  Speaker 3: So again, you're never going to go back and say
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  Speaker 3: we shouldn't have done that with aj What about everyone else?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, was Rob Wright the player that you needed
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  Speaker 3: him to be? Because that was also a huge game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if it wasn't for a J he would
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  Speaker 3: have been the big story in the recruiting class, in
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  Speaker 3: the transfer class. It was a huge, huge get. And
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  Speaker 3: there's other guys that obviously were added to this team.
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  Speaker 3: And the fact that Richie Saunders decided to stay with
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's as big of a deal in the
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  Speaker 3: modern year of college basketball as any transfer is. But
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  Speaker 3: starting with Wright, was that what BYU hoped it would
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  Speaker 3: be or needed it to be when he was healthy.
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  Speaker 2: I think BOI didn't have enough shooting to really support
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  Speaker 2: the full roster that they had because if they if
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  Speaker 2: they had kind of like Tom Rest didn't quite deliver
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  Speaker 2: what they were hope from three. You know, Alexi Coasts
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  Speaker 2: kind of came on stronger later, Nate Pickens they felt
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  Speaker 2: like was going to be a three and D guy
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  Speaker 2: Conard Davis kind of struggled until the end of the
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  Speaker 2: season from distance. And so shooting is the holy grail,
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  Speaker 2: as Kevin Young said in his final press conference after
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  Speaker 2: the Texas came, if you had a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: shooting and then maybe a little bit more experience maybe
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  Speaker 2: at the five position behind KBA, I think that would
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  Speaker 2: have helped. And that's like if Byu was fully healthy.
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  Speaker 2: But I think Rob did a good job this year.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was a good player. I hope that
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  Speaker 2: Byu is able to return him. He Rob told me
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  Speaker 2: in the locker room in Portland, if I'm not playing
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  Speaker 2: pro basketball somewhere, if I'm in college, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: be at b YU. So he's not going to enter
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  Speaker 2: the portal, he's not going to transfer somewhere else, according
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  Speaker 2: to him. So hopefully he's kind of your your big
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  Speaker 2: piece and then you bring in you know, the projected
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  Speaker 2: number two pick in the NBA draft next year in
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  Speaker 2: BB three, and you know, you hope you can get
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  Speaker 2: some good transfers. You got some good young pieces hopefully
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  Speaker 2: he can bring back. But I would imagine like half
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  Speaker 2: the roster has turned over.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. The there's a lot of conversation last offseason about
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  Speaker 3: the way that this roster was put together, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: people in Provo want to de emphasize that it's all
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  Speaker 3: just a financial transaction kind of thing. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why it's as important as it seems to be
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  Speaker 3: down there, because if when you have the resources, there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing wrong with using the resources, I don't think it
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  Speaker 3: means anything.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it says anything about BYU not being
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  Speaker 3: a special place if you're using money to get guys
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  Speaker 3: to come there. But when we talk about, you know,
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  Speaker 3: fleshing out a roster and maybe hopefully having more depth
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  Speaker 3: than they had this year, is there going to be
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  Speaker 3: any change you think in recruiting philosophy or in the
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  Speaker 3: way that roster construction is done based on what happened
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  Speaker 3: this year, Because it's hard to it's hard to look
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  Speaker 3: at the product and say, oh, we needed to look
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  Speaker 3: a lot different than that if you take the injuries
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  Speaker 3: out of it. And obviously injuries are just something that's
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  Speaker 3: beyond anyone's control. But the results this year and the
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  Speaker 3: way that roster was constructed and maybe some of the
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  Speaker 3: holes that were left, do you think there's a philosophical
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  Speaker 3: change as they move forward.
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  Speaker 2: I think in terms of like a big that can score,
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  Speaker 2: I think Boi doesn't need to add that. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: have that this year. You know, you had that as
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  Speaker 2: with Foo's the last year off the bench, and that
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  Speaker 2: was nice. You need somebody that can just back to
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  Speaker 2: the basket, get a bucket when your SHOT's not going down,
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  Speaker 2: or you know, good on the glass, can lay it
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  Speaker 2: back in kind of thing. Cable was that, and then
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  Speaker 2: he hurt his hand. He actually like partially tore a
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  Speaker 2: tendon in his hands, so it couldn't grip the ball
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  Speaker 2: for like a month, so it was really difficult for him.
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  Speaker 2: He kind of we saw him fade a little bit
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  Speaker 2: because of that injury. And then Abdullah Ahmed wasn't quite
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  Speaker 2: what I think we were expecting from the G League.
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  Speaker 2: All these like G League conversation guys, like none of
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  Speaker 2: them had a massive impact it's kind of hilarious. It's
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  Speaker 2: like they're not in the G League anymore for a reason,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, but you know, he wasn't what they.
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  Speaker 1: Were hoping for.
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  Speaker 2: You need more shooting, You need again, good wing defenders,
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  Speaker 2: wing scores. You don't need anybody at point guard because
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  Speaker 2: you're bringing back Nate Pickens, Dawson Baker, and you hope
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  Speaker 2: Robert at the third. You're super solid at that position.
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  Speaker 2: But you need some experience, you need some shooting, you
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  Speaker 2: need some physicality obviously in the Big twelve. So I
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  Speaker 2: think Avenue and has learned a lot. I think if
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  Speaker 2: that roster is is complete and healthy all year, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a very different conversation. And it's too bad
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  Speaker 2: because you had an all term in AJD Bonsa that
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  Speaker 2: if he graduates, and he says that's his plan over
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  Speaker 2: the next several years, you know, in the NBA off
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  Speaker 2: seasons and whatnot, his jersey will be in the Raptors
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  Speaker 2: in the Merit Center forever.
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  Speaker 3: So as we look towards his future, and obviously there's
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  Speaker 3: plenty of people in Salt Lake City that hope that
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  Speaker 3: he's playing professional basketball in the state of Utah as well.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, you have to evaluate tournament performance, you
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  Speaker 3: have to evaluate overall performance when you're talking about handicapping
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  Speaker 3: and NBA draft.
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  Speaker 1: I think AJ is a little bit immune from some
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  Speaker 1: of that evaluation.
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  Speaker 3: Like I don't think his team exiting early hurts his
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  Speaker 3: draft prospects at all. But there are other guys who
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  Speaker 3: are their teams are making deeper runs that might be
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  Speaker 3: in that conversation. There's other guys that I think maybe
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  Speaker 3: hurt themselves in this NCAA tournament that we're maybe up
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  Speaker 3: there next to him. You based on what it's March
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  Speaker 3: twenty fourth, based on today, is Aj debonsa definitively a
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  Speaker 3: top three draft pick?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no question. I think he's been that the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's going to be the number one pick. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And depends who you know, what team is number one?
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  Speaker 2: What are their needs or do they just take straight
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  Speaker 2: up best player? Because AJ Steling feels like it's really
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  Speaker 2: high and he's a proven commodity, and he did it
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  Speaker 2: in you know, the one of, if not the best
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  Speaker 2: league in America and the time, and they did it
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  Speaker 2: against good competition too. You look at some of his
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  Speaker 2: best games. We're against the good competition and so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you watch him play, there's no question Cam Boozer is
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  Speaker 2: really interesting because he's probably the best player in the
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  Speaker 2: country in terms of like his team wins and he's good.
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  Speaker 2: If AJ and BYU were in the sweet sixteen and
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  Speaker 2: had been kind of a top ten team all year,
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  Speaker 2: AJ would probably be the national Player of the year.
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  Speaker 2: You know, maybe it's Cambuser, but Duke's won a ton.
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  Speaker 2: They're fantastic. He's the seventeen and eight guy in the league,
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  Speaker 2: like right now, if you plug him in. Darren Peterson
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  Speaker 2: is an interesting one, right like he played a little
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  Speaker 2: more the back half of the year and whatnot, super
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  Speaker 2: skilled offensive player. To me, those feel like the consensus
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  Speaker 2: top three and probably AJ, Dearn and Cam in that order.
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  Speaker 3: let's talk a little BYU football if you don't mind.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone else is kind of gearing up towards spring ball.
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  Speaker 3: BYU's an early starter every year in the spring, and
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  Speaker 3: it seems like they're, you know, closer to the end
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  Speaker 3: of their spring camp than most teams in the country are.
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  Speaker 1: What have you seen?
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  Speaker 3: What have you heard about this BYU football spring camp
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  Speaker 3: that maybe BYU fans are gonna like to and might
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  Speaker 3: hate to hear.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's kind of status quo. All quiet on
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  Speaker 2: the western front, plug and play with the transfers who
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  Speaker 2: have come in in January. There's some freshmen who are
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  Speaker 2: doing well, you know, Bot Mulitalo at a lone peak
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  Speaker 2: on the offensive line, Devonika out of Le High as
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  Speaker 2: a running back legend, glasger at a Lee High as well,
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  Speaker 2: trying to compete in that in that receiver room, obviously
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  Speaker 2: with some Chase Roberts and Parker Kingston Gune. So there's
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  Speaker 2: opportunities there for targets. Bear Bachmeyer looking good. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's uh, you know, Kelly pabingas selling his version of
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  Speaker 2: the defense and a good response from these guys. Daniel
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  Speaker 2: Sorenson as an assistant safeties coach, I think will make
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  Speaker 2: an impact with this staff as well, which is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Coming off a stellar NFL career, so yeah, I'm excited
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  Speaker 2: to see it. It feels like, you know, all quiet on
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  Speaker 2: the Western front, checking along high expectations. No one say
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  Speaker 2: anything too crazy. No one's staying quest for profession, which
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  Speaker 2: is great. Let's let's just get after it, stay healthy
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  Speaker 2: in the spring, and then hit the fall and see
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  Speaker 2: if you can't make a run again.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned Sorenson coming back to help with
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  Speaker 3: the safeties. That's something you and I haven't had a
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  Speaker 3: chance to talk about yet. I was remarkably impressed with
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  Speaker 3: him in his NFL career, and we know some of
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  Speaker 3: the same people, and you only hear great things about him.
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  Speaker 3: One thing that fascinates me about BYU is they're under Kalanie.
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  Speaker 3: There's a ton of NFL guys right that by You produced,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like alumni are welcome in the program. But
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't excessively lean on those connections in terms of
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  Speaker 3: like his actual hires, and other coaches over index on that,
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  Speaker 3: I think sometimes to their own detriment. They're like, he's
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  Speaker 3: an NFL player, which means he'll be a great coach,
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  Speaker 3: and it doesn't always translate that way. But adding not
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  Speaker 3: only a guy that we know is excellent and as
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  Speaker 3: a football player, but is a through and through BYU
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  Speaker 3: guy with connections to super Bowl level talent and super
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  Speaker 3: Bowl level experience at the next level. What can it
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  Speaker 3: do for coach k Pop? Is he is he brings
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  Speaker 3: this this defense under his own umbrella.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's huge because one he played at
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  Speaker 2: BYU and two just like his kind of unique guys,
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  Speaker 2: let's be honest, like a white safety in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: Like he's just like a unicorn, Like he's unique in
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  Speaker 2: terms of like how did how did he kind of
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  Speaker 2: figure and navigate that out? He was a linebacker when
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  Speaker 2: he started at BYU, And you've got kind of a
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  Speaker 2: new situation with the Mario Warren coaching the safeties now
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  Speaker 2: and Lewis Walker coaching the corners. So it's a bit different.
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  Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, that relatability and that let's get
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  Speaker 2: you to the NFL, that provo kind of vibe that
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  Speaker 2: basketball started continues with football and trying to produce guys,
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  Speaker 2: and then because then you have like at the end
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  Speaker 2: at the by Nfelt combine over the weekend, Maury Bomba,
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  Speaker 2: someone timed him at a four to one the unofficial
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  Speaker 2: with four to two seven. It's like, wait, there are
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  Speaker 2: dudes walking around that run that fast, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: Chris Wilcox a couple of years ago got drafted on
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  Speaker 2: his forty time basically with some good film. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Moury has has decent film out there. What can that
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  Speaker 2: mean for this grip? What can that mean for this
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  Speaker 2: new look defense from BYU that hopes to continue what
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  Speaker 2: they've done last couple of years, which has been the
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  Speaker 2: backbone of the success at BYU. It's been a solid
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  Speaker 2: run game and a good defense, like we've talked about.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds familiar with these two programs, you know, not the
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  Speaker 2: BYU high flying passing game, but a solid run game.
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's I think Daniel Sorenson's add to the
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  Speaker 2: staff is awesome and and you you continue to try
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  Speaker 2: and build on what you've done, and it's nice to
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  Speaker 2: bring in guys that have experience, and he played it independence.
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  Speaker 2: I bet he'd love to have competed in the Big
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  Speaker 2: twelve where now BYU is contending for championships.
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  Speaker 3: The first time I met Daniel Sorenson was that his
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  Speaker 3: cousin's bachelor party, which, of course when you're talking about
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  Speaker 3: BYU bachelor parties and Provo bachelor parties.
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  Speaker 1: Not exactly wild, but.
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  Speaker 3: All night risk that we went to Provo Beach Resort
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  Speaker 3: and rode the road the flow rider. Okay, nice, and
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  Speaker 3: all of us are, of course just getting bundled and falling,
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  Speaker 3: and then the wave pushes you up and over and
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  Speaker 3: half the time strips your shorts off, which is kind
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  Speaker 3: of the point when you're at a bachelor party. You're
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  Speaker 3: you're like, you know, you're all just laughing and having it,
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  Speaker 3: and then Daniel Sorenson jumps on the thing and he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't fall. It was like, okay, we It's like, we
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  Speaker 3: get it. You're the You're the best athlete here by
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  Speaker 3: a long stretch. And you know, he's so unassuming from
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  Speaker 3: a visual standpoint, but an elite athlete that uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've resented from the very first moment I saw.
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  Speaker 2: He's the real deal. Man like he is. He is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I went to girl Dad Camp last year at b Y,
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  Speaker 2: which is a super cool event, and he was in
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  Speaker 2: our group and yeah, he's still got it, man, he's
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  Speaker 2: still working out. He's a lifer.
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  Speaker 3: The NFL Draft is coming up and Jack Kelly performed
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  Speaker 3: incredibly well at the scouting Combine, and you know he
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  Speaker 3: didn't have because of some injury. He didn't have as
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  Speaker 3: productive a season as I thought he was capable of
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  Speaker 3: having this past year, even on a really good BYU team,
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  Speaker 3: and he played incredibly well, but you could tell that
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  Speaker 3: he was a little banged up in certain situations. And
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  Speaker 3: the stats didn't necessarily blow up like I hope they
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  Speaker 3: would for him. But what do we think Jack Kelly
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  Speaker 3: is going to be at the NFL level.
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  Speaker 2: I think he could be a guy that has a
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  Speaker 2: nice career. He's got the toughness, he's got the speed
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: and agility. In his relative athletics score the RAS he
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: pulled a ninety seven. He was great in the composite speed,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: the explosion, the agility in the size.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: He was good.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: But like, this is a guy that can be kind
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: of a bigger back that can still moves. As things
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: move to speed in the NFL a little bit more,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you got to be able to move. Gone are the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: burly slow two hundred and fifty pound backers that run
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: a four to eight, Like you've got to be in
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: the four to five ish range. And he ran a
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: four five to seven and it's ten yards. Splot was
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: one six one, so it's like this guy can move.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: So I think he's going to be on a fifty
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: three man roster for five plus years in the NFL,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: and it might just be on name alone, because that
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: is a great linebacker named Jack Kelly. Not to mention
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the news these connections with Christian Bales' character there, but yeah,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see Jack in the NFL. I think
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: this is a guy that was undervalue at a Currens
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: went to Weavers State with Jay Hill, came with him
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: to BYU, and he's going to be a tremendous player
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: in the NFL.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I do this all the time when we're talking about
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: NFL draft evaluation. You read the nfl dot Com profile
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: and their strengths and their weaknesses, and I think I've
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: brought this up on the air before, but I'm just
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: gonna read Texas Tech is such a thorn in the
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: side of everyone in the state of Utah, including this
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: is his draft profile. Weaknesses average eye quickness, reaction time
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: to his keys. Okay, thank you, whatever inconsistent technique, execution
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: to get rid of a block, all right, that's considered
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: a weakness and then they just throw this out there
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: was a non factor against the Texas Tech run game. Okay,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: we get it, all right. It was a tough year
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: for everyone who went against Texas Tech. Thanks a lot
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: NFL dot Com.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what the heck? Man? Not the Tech Tech passing
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: game though in Lovevich I thought it was pretty good.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: And that'ss fut.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Jack Kelly, He's one of those guys.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I think every year there's a couple of people that
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: are wearing Crimson that BYU were begrudgingly or not. The
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: fans be like, man, we really like to have that guy,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: and I think that Jack Kelly fit that mold. On
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: the opposite end, I think that there's a lot of
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: you tough fans that watched him play. Myself included that
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: we're just like man. Jack Kelly is a player he'd
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: be good to have on any team.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And he played through some injuries to both shoulders, so
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: he's a tough cookie as well. Other guys that I
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: thought kind of helped themselves, especially this postseason. I think
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Carson Ryan is in the next job more. Bomber helped
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: himself the most. Chase Roberts helped his forty time quite
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: a bit, getting into the low four fives from a
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: four to six and indy, So that was good. And
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: then Garrison Grimes. We don't talk about long snappers a lot.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: This dude pulled it a ten to oher relative athletics score,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: like he ran a crazy forty. He's got crazy broad
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and vertical and all that. Maybe he's the next John
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Denny who was like a long time long snapper in
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the NFL. Like good snapping obviously, but like what separates
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you apart, like your athleticism, your ability to get down
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: the field, that kind of thing. Obviously Jeff Grim's son.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if Garrison Grimes is an undrafted free
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: agent that finds a place for the league, that's a
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: good shout.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: It's if you can, if you can make it onto
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: a roster as a long snapper and stay there for
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: you know, a life. However, many years like get get
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: him with that athleticism and then uh, the what the
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: utsa kicker?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Whatever?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: That ran a four or five and now you're kill Yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: you're cooking with gas.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Like listen, you gotta be able to stick out somehow,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: and like now you're you're saying, who's a long, snapping,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: cheap prospect rookie. It's like dude Garrison Grimes. Plus he
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: has like this deep, rich voice. I'm super jealous he could.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: He could do some voiceovers for a living too.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Jerem always great hearing from you. Appreciate you jumping on
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: the show today. Thank you, sir.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Heck Yeah, hey, Utson koochs. Tonight in baseball, first first
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: game at the new Utah Baseball Stadium, we got a
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty fifth meeting all time. The first
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: first meeting was eighteen ninety five, ended in a bench
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: clearing brawl.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Let's get another one of those tonight.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, let's do it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: It's a great it's a great way to christen the
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: new field.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: All right, a little bra with abrawl. You're the man, Jam,
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