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- 0:32Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Hello and good morning. How are you doing.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Hi?
- 0:37Speaker 3: I'm good. How are you doing?
- 0:38Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic. I saw that four oh six come up,
- 0:41Speaker 1: and right away I'm going I know that number. I
- 0:43Speaker 1: grew up in Montana. I know that four oh six.
- 0:47Speaker 3: And where did you grow up?
- 0:48Speaker 1: I came up in Billings and I was born in
- 0:51Speaker 1: Sheridan and then and then grew up in Billings And
- 0:53Speaker 1: it's like it's like, I mean, and you're up there
- 0:55Speaker 1: in Kallispel. Oh my god, that place changed my life
- 0:59Speaker 1: up there with flathead life.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a lot of beautiful lakes up here. Yeah.
- 1:05Speaker 1: And for you to be a writer of course you are.
- 1:07Speaker 1: You can't be in that country and not be an
- 1:10Speaker 1: author or somebody who's putting paint on a canvas. And
- 1:13Speaker 1: what you're doing with your writing is so so unbelievable.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Because you write about it almost feels like that I'm
- 1:20Speaker 1: reading a newspaper or on CNN. You make me feel
- 1:23Speaker 1: like it's really happening here.
- 1:27Speaker 3: Thank you appreciate that.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Where did you learn that art of connection? Because not
- 1:31Speaker 1: everybody can do.
- 1:32Speaker 2: That well, I'd say just over the years, lots of practice,
- 1:40Speaker 2: lots of studying, lots of reading, lots of some of
- 1:45Speaker 2: it's just kind of natural, you know, some people have
- 1:49Speaker 2: the knack for it, and you just kind of go
- 1:52Speaker 2: with it when you do. And you know, Stephen Spielberg
- 1:55Speaker 2: says that your dreams kind of whisper.
- 1:57Speaker 3: At you, they don't shout at you. That's kind of
- 1:59Speaker 3: the way it was for me.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I just kind of had this little whisper, you know,
- 2:03Speaker 2: that I wanted to write, and I honestly didn't do
- 2:06Speaker 2: it for a long time in my life, and it
- 2:07Speaker 2: wasn't till much later that I really really got into
- 2:11Speaker 2: it and was in my gosh, I was in my
- 2:14Speaker 2: late forties when I published my first novel.
- 2:17Speaker 3: So yeah, I.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Mean, I mean to be able to give yourself permission
- 2:21Speaker 1: to write, because all of a sudden, now we're getting
- 2:24Speaker 1: to see what you put on that paper or on
- 2:26Speaker 1: that computer screen, and it's like relinquishing control. And I've
- 2:29Speaker 1: always wondered about other authors, how is it you find
- 2:32Speaker 1: the strength to even do that?
- 2:37Speaker 2: Well, not every day it was great, you know, it's
- 2:43Speaker 2: some days it doesn't come at all, and you know,
- 2:45Speaker 2: you devote your time to just the professional end of it,
- 2:48Speaker 2: with the emails and the social media and your research
- 2:53Speaker 2: or different things.
- 2:54Speaker 3: And then other days it comes, and it comes.
- 2:57Speaker 2: You know, effortless, effort us lee, and you can do
- 3:01Speaker 2: it for hours and you just feel so great.
- 3:03Speaker 3: In other day is all you can get down is
- 3:05Speaker 3: a couple of.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Paragraphs, or go in and just revise stuff you've already done,
- 3:10Speaker 2: you know, just to stay busy with it, just to
- 3:12Speaker 2: stay part of it, of the story. But it doesn't always,
- 3:16Speaker 2: like I said, the creativity part of it is kind
- 3:18Speaker 2: of waxes and ways for sure.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Well, in the Confession Artist, you bring up things that
- 3:23Speaker 1: are so every day. And my father would be so
- 3:25Speaker 1: proud of you because because that's how he got a
- 3:28Speaker 1: lot of his headlines was by reading books from authors,
- 3:31Speaker 1: because you always believe that you guys had your ear
- 3:32Speaker 1: to the ground more than just a regular journalist, and
- 3:35Speaker 1: you do. You cover so much stuff here that is
- 3:38Speaker 1: so real that I get wrapped up inside the story
- 3:41Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, I'll do one more page. Oh
- 3:43Speaker 1: wait a second, I'm going to do one more Wait,
- 3:44Speaker 1: I'm going to do one more.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Well, that's what I want to hear. So that's great,
- 3:49Speaker 2: that's fantastic, Thank you.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Yeah, there's you know, I wanted to.
- 3:54Speaker 2: I mean, part of that just comes naturally for me
- 3:57Speaker 2: because I am an engaged person in the world kind
- 4:01Speaker 2: of that way, and I think most all writers are,
- 4:05Speaker 2: like you said, and so it just comes natural to
- 4:09Speaker 2: get some of that onto the page without trying to
- 4:12Speaker 2: be preachy about any of it or you know, pedantic
- 4:16Speaker 2: about any of it, but just kind of be an
- 4:18Speaker 2: observer of some of the things that are going on
- 4:21Speaker 2: and getting them down.
- 4:23Speaker 3: And I have all these these you know.
- 4:27Speaker 2: So in the Confession Artists, there's this serial.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Killer who is.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Basically putting out a sketch of they're victims about six
- 4:38Speaker 2: days ahead of time and saying either confess, you know,
- 4:41Speaker 2: or you're going to die. And so since they kind
- 4:45Speaker 2: of almost composite sketches are sort of vague, a lot
- 4:48Speaker 2: of people feel like it looks like them, and so
- 4:52Speaker 2: it ends up going viral and it can this national
- 4:55Speaker 2: phenomena where people after a sketch drops, people think it
- 4:58Speaker 2: looks like them, and people are confessing online and all
- 5:01Speaker 2: this stuff. And so it was really rich Brown to
- 5:04Speaker 2: just tap into the kinds of things that are going
- 5:07Speaker 2: on in America around the world today that you could confess.
- 5:11Speaker 3: You know, things of that nature.
- 5:13Speaker 1: So but but what's so fascinating about it, though, is
- 5:17Speaker 1: that it's like you as a reader, you go, you go.
- 5:20Speaker 1: I like both sides of it, because if you're holding
- 5:23Speaker 1: on to something that you should be confessing about it,
- 5:25Speaker 1: I get it. But at the same time, that's all
- 5:27Speaker 1: that's a kind of a way to go that, you know,
- 5:31Speaker 1: if you didn't confess, you got the picture, dude, you
- 5:34Speaker 1: got you got it.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:37Speaker 2: So yeah, and you bring up an interesting point. I think,
- 5:42Speaker 2: you know, confessing and revenge and that whole thing. It's
- 5:46Speaker 2: so it's actually pretty much part of most friend fiction.
- 5:51Speaker 2: I mean, right, you know, there's there's some kind of
- 5:53Speaker 2: like finding out who.
- 5:54Speaker 3: Did it or why they did it.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Or you know, and often it comes down to revenge
- 6:00Speaker 2: or you know, some kind of passion of heart kind
- 6:04Speaker 2: of you know, heat of the moment crime or but
- 6:09Speaker 2: both both confessions and revenge are sort of like a
- 6:14Speaker 2: release valve, you know, depending for either the person who's
- 6:18Speaker 2: confessing their sin or for the perpetrator who's you know,
- 6:23Speaker 2: out seeking some kind of revenge which they perceive as
- 6:27Speaker 2: their own justice.
- 6:28Speaker 3: It may not be society's justice, but it's justice for.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Themselves, and so it's kind of like it's such a
- 6:36Speaker 2: release valve either way you go with it.
- 6:39Speaker 1: So well, you sure got Crosby's attention. My god, I mean,
- 6:42Speaker 1: come on, I mean, we all have skeletons in our closet,
- 6:44Speaker 1: but when all of a sudden that skeet shows up,
- 6:46Speaker 1: and I don't want to spoil it for readers, but
- 6:49Speaker 1: we're going to see ourselves in a situation many times
- 6:51Speaker 1: in this book.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope.
- 6:56Speaker 2: So yeah, And she Crosby's yep, she's my protagonist, and
- 7:02Speaker 2: she's an ex cop from Montana, And you know, I
- 7:05Speaker 2: kind of like to write where about Montana because it's
- 7:10Speaker 2: just some so I live here.
- 7:11Speaker 3: So I'm so comfortable with it. It's so beautiful. Why
- 7:13Speaker 3: wouldn't I write about it?
- 7:14Speaker 2: And so anyway, so she's one of the victims, is
- 7:21Speaker 2: in the sketch.
- 7:22Speaker 3: And or you know, she thinks she is.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Anyway, She's not sure if she is at first, So
- 7:27Speaker 2: there's that whole dynamic of is it me?
- 7:29Speaker 3: Is it not? I don't know?
- 7:31Speaker 2: And as she comes to think, really think it might be,
- 7:34Speaker 2: then she's yeah, under that pressure cooker, do I She's
- 7:39Speaker 2: got some skills as an ex cop, so it's like,
- 7:41Speaker 2: do I try and find this person myself or do
- 7:45Speaker 2: I confess?
- 7:47Speaker 1: I was going to ask about that, what the transition
- 7:49Speaker 1: of being you know, a PI and stuff like that
- 7:51Speaker 1: for Crosby Mitchell, only because it's one of those situations
- 7:55Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, I left this all behind me,
- 7:57Speaker 1: but I'm being called to this situation and to me,
- 8:00Speaker 1: I mean, I like the little uh, you know, conflict
- 8:03Speaker 1: that that that has to go on with Crosby's life
- 8:05Speaker 1: as well, because it really does. We're all in situations
- 8:08Speaker 1: like that, and I think that's what draws people to
- 8:10Speaker 1: a story, is that we always think that we know
- 8:12Speaker 1: who the character is because I met them obviously over
- 8:15Speaker 1: at Starbucks or it could have been some sort of Kroger.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Store, right right, Yeah, so she's yes, and you know,
- 8:25Speaker 2: I just wanted her to be kind of have some
- 8:29Speaker 2: of her own baggage, of course, for why she left
- 8:32Speaker 2: the force in the first place. And yeah, and and
- 8:36Speaker 2: I also wanted her to have, you know, some be
- 8:40Speaker 2: a little bit of a polarizing character herself in the sense.
- 8:43Speaker 3: That maybe not everybody would like.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Her maybe, you know, I mean, because she's got some stuff,
- 8:48Speaker 2: and she's also you know, she's also got some anger.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Well, she's also got the strength to pull that lens
- 8:54Speaker 1: back and see that there's a much bigger, bigger picture here,
- 8:57Speaker 1: because when when the lens is on her, when she's
- 8:59Speaker 1: having to deal with this in her own life, and
- 9:01Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, and that to me is
- 9:03Speaker 1: what inspires me as a reader, is that it's like,
- 9:05Speaker 1: wait a second, as much as this going on is
- 9:07Speaker 1: going on in her life, she's still able to pull
- 9:10Speaker 1: that lens back.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that introspection is huge.
- 9:16Speaker 2: And as a reader myself, I like, I love novels
- 9:22Speaker 2: that do that, where the characters have that ability to
- 9:26Speaker 2: go that couple layers deeper, so it's not just kind
- 9:30Speaker 2: of getting across teflon kind of reading you know it,
- 9:35Speaker 2: you know, surface level, like I mean, you really want
- 9:38Speaker 2: to dig deeper.
- 9:39Speaker 1: I think, well, yeah, and you also deal with a copycat,
- 9:42Speaker 1: because that was one of the first things that I
- 9:43Speaker 1: thought of right away. I thought, Oh, my god, is
- 9:46Speaker 1: this going to inspire somebody today? And then and then
- 9:48Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you start talking about
- 9:50Speaker 1: a copycat in this and I'm going, oh, well, then
- 9:52Speaker 1: she is on the same page as I am. We
- 9:54Speaker 1: are thinking the same and it's not because we're both
- 9:56Speaker 1: from Montana.
- 10:00Speaker 2: It might be no, Yeah, I agree. I think that
- 10:04Speaker 2: probably a lot of people's heads would go there, right.
- 10:08Speaker 2: I mean, it's just such a I mean, even even
- 10:15Speaker 2: things like suicide or you know, they catch on and
- 10:21Speaker 2: there's like a you know about of them, like you know,
- 10:25Speaker 2: in a particular town, like there's one and then there's
- 10:28Speaker 2: maybe another and maybe another. Because it's almost not a
- 10:31Speaker 2: copycast situation. And I don't want to I don't want
- 10:36Speaker 2: to make light of that at all, but it's you know,
- 10:40Speaker 2: or trivialize it in any way, shape or form, But
- 10:42Speaker 2: I just mean, it's it's such a powerful thing, the
- 10:47Speaker 2: that that power of suggestion.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Christine Carbo coming
- 10:53Speaker 1: up next the maybe the book The Confession Artist. We
- 10:59Speaker 1: are back with author Christine Carbo. Well, you being up
- 11:03Speaker 1: there in the Cattle Spell area, you know how the
- 11:05Speaker 1: world is moving to Montana? I mean, is that where
- 11:07Speaker 1: you got the inspiration to do this? Because so many
- 11:09Speaker 1: people from with these amazing careers are moving into your
- 11:13Speaker 1: village basically, and we don't know about them. What are
- 11:17Speaker 1: they bringing with them? What is what is their history?
- 11:20Speaker 1: And could they be and be? I mean, and because
- 11:23Speaker 1: that's the way the small town life is anymore.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Small town life is really changed in so many places.
- 11:31Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we've been discovered for sure, and
- 11:35Speaker 2: we're growing, and there's there's not a block or a
- 11:39Speaker 2: corner of the valley that I live and that isn't
- 11:42Speaker 2: being developed at this point.
- 11:43Speaker 3: And it's just you're right.
- 11:47Speaker 2: It does raise a question like, Okay, you know, it's
- 11:53Speaker 2: so fun to write about rural landscapes and the secrets
- 11:57Speaker 2: that people hold and the way that all butts uff
- 12:00Speaker 2: against nature and that whole thing, But then there's this
- 12:03Speaker 2: whole other element of we've been discovered and there's a
- 12:06Speaker 2: lot of people coming in and we It does have
- 12:10Speaker 2: that feeling where now when you go to the grocery store,
- 12:13Speaker 2: you're not you don't know everybody. It's more like you're
- 12:16Speaker 2: anonymous and who are these people? You know, they're in
- 12:20Speaker 2: our community and we love them because they bring, you know,
- 12:23Speaker 2: good business. But at the same time, it adds a
- 12:25Speaker 2: whole nother layer.
- 12:26Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well you just took me back to a
- 12:29Speaker 1: conversation I just had with Eve Plump. She was Jan Brady,
- 12:31Speaker 1: and she talked about she can walk around this world
- 12:34Speaker 1: now and nobody recognizes her. That's how I feel about
- 12:37Speaker 1: your book, is that that these people can walk around,
- 12:39Speaker 1: Crosby can walk around nobody knows. Nobody knows unless we
- 12:43Speaker 1: start talking about it. Oh my god. And you know
- 12:45Speaker 1: how talk in a small town can get away with
- 12:47Speaker 1: and they might not even have all the facts.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 12:51Speaker 2: And yeah, I definitely wanted to try and play on
- 12:53Speaker 2: that a little bit too, So hopefully I pulled that
- 12:56Speaker 2: off as well.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Yeah, oh good good, I'm glad to hear that.
- 13:00Speaker 1: So your creative process, have you ever had a murder
- 13:02Speaker 1: mystery take place in the Lewis and Clark caverns, because
- 13:05Speaker 1: that really is a cool place that something like that
- 13:07Speaker 1: could go down.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the Lewis and Clark caverns. You're right,
- 13:12Speaker 2: that really is a cool place. And thanks for the idea.
- 13:16Speaker 2: I never thought of that, but that is so cool.
- 13:19Speaker 2: I mean that, Yeah, those places. That place is wild,
- 13:22Speaker 2: isn't it? All the bats and all the what is
- 13:26Speaker 2: it select delights?
- 13:27Speaker 3: Is that what you call? Oh yeah, yeah, Oh.
- 13:30Speaker 1: My gosh, so mystery, so many shadows. You don't know
- 13:33Speaker 1: who's hiding in there. And man, when I was a kid,
- 13:36Speaker 1: I was so afraid to go in there, but yet
- 13:39Speaker 1: I can't shake it. It's still with me even today.
- 13:41Speaker 1: And and so I mean to write a murder mystery
- 13:43Speaker 1: in there is I go, oh, you would freak me out.
- 13:49Speaker 3: Let me have to write that one down. Thanks for
- 13:51Speaker 3: the idea. Do you ever get credit if I ever
- 13:54Speaker 3: do that?
- 13:55Speaker 1: Do you ever get over there to eastern Montana? I
- 13:57Speaker 1: always say that what what somebody did? And it was
- 13:59Speaker 1: God thist there and folded the state in half. You've
- 14:01Speaker 1: got all that beauty up there in the Callospell area,
- 14:03Speaker 1: and you keep going deeper into the rockies, but then
- 14:05Speaker 1: you've got eastern Montana with everything in the ground. And
- 14:09Speaker 1: I always wonder what authors do. Is it a conflict
- 14:11Speaker 1: of thought if they go from a callispell to maybe
- 14:14Speaker 1: a mile city.
- 14:18Speaker 2: No, I go over there, you mean, in terms of
- 14:21Speaker 2: my writing, I do go over there with my writing,
- 14:24Speaker 2: or at least I make mention of it. And especially
- 14:27Speaker 2: in my first four novels, which are part of an
- 14:30Speaker 2: ensemble series called the Glacier Mystery Series, each book stands alone,
- 14:34Speaker 2: and I'll pluck one character from the first novel and
- 14:39Speaker 2: bring them forward to the second novel, pluck a character
- 14:41Speaker 2: in the second novel, bring that character forward to the third,
- 14:45Speaker 2: and so I can just have a different character in
- 14:47Speaker 2: each one, but still part of the same universe. And
- 14:50Speaker 2: in those novels, you know, there's there's lots of there's
- 14:55Speaker 2: quite a few mentions of the east side and just
- 14:58Speaker 2: having different care that even come drive through it, or
- 15:03Speaker 2: come from.
- 15:03Speaker 3: The east side, or drive over there, you know.
- 15:07Speaker 2: And then of course there's the east side of the
- 15:08Speaker 2: of Glacier Park, which is not necessarily flat like some
- 15:12Speaker 2: of the other parts of eastern Montana are, but it's.
- 15:18Speaker 3: But it's still a whole different feeling.
- 15:21Speaker 2: In fact, in my first novel The Wild Inside, I
- 15:25Speaker 2: have a pretty dramatic scene that takes place over at
- 15:28Speaker 2: old Man Lake, which is a lake on the east
- 15:31Speaker 2: eastern side of Glacier Park and there on the Eastern front,
- 15:36Speaker 2: and it's yeah, it's pretty desolate and it's very eerie
- 15:41Speaker 2: feeling over there sometimes but beautiful and I personally have
- 15:45Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in eastern Montana, so that
- 15:48Speaker 2: informs my writing as well.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Well, you're the closest thing that I've gotten to Glacier
- 15:52Speaker 1: National Park because as a kid and as an adult,
- 15:54Speaker 1: I still won't go there because we had such a
- 15:57Speaker 1: rivalry with with Great Falls the buildings. I was at
- 16:01Speaker 1: the senior High Bronx and we were up against those
- 16:03Speaker 1: day in Great Falls Bisons, and I wouldn't go on
- 16:05Speaker 1: that part of the world because it's like Bronks don't
- 16:08Speaker 1: go into Great Falls country, and I wouldn't go anywhere
- 16:11Speaker 1: near that area. And to this day, I still hold
- 16:13Speaker 1: that grudge against that high school.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Gosh, well, I think you should let it go so
- 16:20Speaker 2: you can get to Glacier Park because it's beautiful and
- 16:23Speaker 2: you definitely want to see it if you can.
- 16:26Speaker 1: So what are you working on for the future? Because
- 16:28Speaker 1: I mean, because it is such a writer's world right now,
- 16:31Speaker 1: and you know that twenty twenty six has been the
- 16:34Speaker 1: master work of authors inside those theaters, and it's like, finally,
- 16:38Speaker 1: all of these book authors are getting to put their
- 16:40Speaker 1: stories on that gigantic screen. You've got to be working
- 16:44Speaker 1: on something like that because you understand how to put
- 16:46Speaker 1: pictures inside my head.
- 16:51Speaker 3: Well, I you know, I do.
- 16:53Speaker 2: I am fingers crossed on the film front for pretty
- 16:58Speaker 2: much all my novels, and this one, I do have
- 17:04Speaker 2: a talent scout from La who was interested in it
- 17:07Speaker 2: right away when when she saw it, and so putting
- 17:11Speaker 2: the word out there, we'll see what happens. But but yeah,
- 17:15Speaker 2: and I'm working on another book now, and it's another standalone,
- 17:21Speaker 2: though another thriller standalone.
- 17:23Speaker 3: It's not quite as high concepts is this.
- 17:27Speaker 2: It's a little bit more kind of grounded into Montana
- 17:31Speaker 2: in a way that's not quite so quite so national.
- 17:35Speaker 2: But but I still think it's going to be pretty intriguing.
- 17:40Speaker 3: So for readers, Yeah, do you.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Think The Confession Artist would make a great binge watch?
- 17:45Speaker 1: Because I mean, everybody's so addicted to the to the
- 17:47Speaker 1: binge watch. Yellowstone what I love about your writing is
- 17:51Speaker 1: the fact that it's not what we think is all
- 17:53Speaker 1: cowboys and all that kind of stuff in that ranch life.
- 17:56Speaker 1: I mean, what you you give it the reality of now?
- 18:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.
- 18:06Speaker 3: I hope that.
- 18:07Speaker 2: I mean I would again, I would love to see
- 18:10Speaker 2: that happen, either either just in a film format all
- 18:14Speaker 2: in one showing, or in you know, a limited series
- 18:19Speaker 2: would be great too, And I think I think it
- 18:22Speaker 2: would be very cool either way, right.
- 18:25Speaker 1: I mean, because each sketch is a new episode, and
- 18:27Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're so glued to it because
- 18:29Speaker 1: we all think that we can solve a crime in
- 18:31Speaker 1: twenty five thirty minutes. We all think that we're because
- 18:34Speaker 1: we're pros. But then you as the writer, God, God,
- 18:37Speaker 1: you've got to live it first through those words and
- 18:39Speaker 1: then you pass it forward.
- 18:43Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So, and you are correct about that that
- 18:46Speaker 2: each sketch could be a different episode, so and or
- 18:51Speaker 2: you know, each sketch could be like two episodes.
- 18:54Speaker 3: And it's just so many.
- 18:58Speaker 2: I mean, I leave that up to the people that
- 19:01Speaker 2: are good at that, because I'm not a screenwriter.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
- 19:08Speaker 1: And are you going on a speaking tour to where
- 19:10Speaker 1: you can go out and really invite people into this journey.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Yes, I am going to be in a number of
- 19:16Speaker 2: places and I will be posting about that on probably
- 19:21Speaker 2: mostly Facebook and Instagram and Christine you know dot Carbo,
- 19:27Speaker 2: Christine Underscore Carbo, those kinds of things for X and
- 19:31Speaker 2: I don't just post a lot on X but I
- 19:34Speaker 2: used to back in the day when it was Twitter,
- 19:36Speaker 2: and but Facebook, you can find me Instagram and then
- 19:42Speaker 2: my website has it all Christine Carbo dot com and yeah,
- 19:48Speaker 2: and the Confession Artist. I should tell you this month.
- 19:52Speaker 2: So it officially comes out on June first, and this
- 19:56Speaker 2: month it is a It was selected by a group
- 20:00Speaker 2: of editors at Amazon to be a first freetstick, which
- 20:04Speaker 2: means that people who have Prime, Amazon Prime and Kindle
- 20:10Speaker 2: Unlimited can get it either free if you have Prime,
- 20:15Speaker 2: or at a really deep discount. So if you have that,
- 20:19Speaker 2: got nothing to lose, go and download it or get
- 20:22Speaker 2: it right now if you and pre ordering it too,
- 20:25Speaker 2: I think comes with some discounts as well.
- 20:27Speaker 1: So wow, it's great to talk with another creative person
- 20:30Speaker 1: from the state of Montana, because I mean, there's something
- 20:33Speaker 1: up there in those hills as well as the soil
- 20:35Speaker 1: and storytelling is what that state has always, always always
- 20:39Speaker 1: been about, whether it's through writing and or even just painting.
- 20:43Speaker 3: So true, I love it. I just love Montana.
- 20:46Speaker 2: And there are so many great stories that come out
- 20:50Speaker 2: of this state, so many great artists and creative people.
- 20:55Speaker 3: So yeah, there's something about it. What is it? Steinbeck
- 20:58Speaker 3: says that.
- 21:01Speaker 2: All other states that I like, but with Montana it's love.
- 21:05Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying it perfectly the way he
- 21:07Speaker 2: wrote it, but he travels with Charlie he has that
- 21:10Speaker 2: quote about that with Montana, it's love.
- 21:15Speaker 3: About Montana.
- 21:17Speaker 1: It'd be fun to see you on a travel channel
- 21:19Speaker 1: in the way that where you walk around the different
- 21:21Speaker 1: areas of Montana and showcase all these different deep dark mysteries,
- 21:25Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, here comes Christine and she goes,
- 21:28Speaker 1: let me tell you the story. Here's what is, and
- 21:30Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it say, oh, I have to
- 21:32Speaker 1: believe it now, because she's an author, I understand it.
- 21:38Speaker 3: If you have a lot of great ideas.
- 21:41Speaker 1: It's the Montana in me, that's what it is.
- 21:48Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you so much.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Well you please come back to this show anytime in
- 21:52Speaker 1: the future. The door is always going to be open
- 21:54Speaker 1: for you.
- 21:56Speaker 3: Thank you. I really appreciate it.
- 21:58Speaker 2: And thanks thanks to you all your listeners, and thanks
- 22:02Speaker 2: for taking the time.
- 22:04Speaker 1: You bet you be here today.
- 22:05Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you too. You already it sounds like you
- 22:09Speaker 3: already are.
- 22:09Speaker 2: You've got so many great ideas popping into your mind,
- 22:11Speaker 2: miss so thank you.
- 22:13Speaker 3: I'm going to write some of them down.
- 22:15Speaker 1: It's the Big Sky Country, that's what. It stretches across
- 22:17Speaker 1: every state. I'm always in Montana.
- 22:22Speaker 3: Okay, well, you have a great day.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Bye bye.