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- 0:06OK, we are live welcome to into the channel live podcast
- 0:10primarily about women's football.
- 0:11I am host Dino de suspicious and as always, I am joined by my
- 0:15host Mr. Grant angle. What is up man?
- 0:18I'm. Feeling all right, buddy?
- 0:19That was a pretty good football match we just watched.
- 0:21And you know, if you ignore all the other news in the world, I
- 0:26would almost venture to say that I'm feeling fantastic after
- 0:28that. Yeah, man, that's been my move
- 0:30for like the last, what is it 100 days or so?
- 0:32I don't know. It depends on where, where we
- 0:34want to start the count from. Anyway.
- 0:38US was actually Team 2 Columbia nil hard fought, I would say.
- 0:43And you know, I, I was going to mention this to you.
- 0:45I adopted your, your counting of, you know, the 15 minute
- 0:49periods. And what I've started doing is
- 0:51scoring them as like boxing rounds.
- 0:53So I in the first half I had 10-9 Colombia, 1st 15.
- 0:58And then I had US women's national team carrying the day,
- 1:01the 2nd 15 and the 3rd 15 going into halftime.
- 1:04But what did you see kind of early?
- 1:06What were your early impressions of the match kind of like once
- 1:09things start to settle down a little?
- 1:10Bit, I mean, early it seemed like they were going to try
- 1:12that. Sorry.
- 1:13It seemed like Colombia was going to try to get Kaiseto and
- 1:16Ramirez out into space. And in my notes, I said, OK, not
- 1:20a terrible strategy. Let's see how long that lasts.
- 1:23And to be honest, it didn't really last that long.
- 1:26I'm just checking the chat here. We got we got blue in the house.
- 1:28Appreciate your blue. I mean, you know, we try to get
- 1:32back to as many people as we can in the comment section, but it's
- 1:34always great to rock with rock with our people live.
- 1:37So definitely happy to have you. Apologies.
- 1:40I was a little checked out on your answer.
- 1:43Can you can I? We were we were winded back.
- 1:45What did you see here? Yes, we're doing early.
- 1:49Match Yeah. Oh, see, that's where I went
- 1:52wrong. See I'm I'm parched.
- 1:54There it is. No, it's understandable.
- 1:56Don't worry about it buddy. Blue, if you've got some nearby
- 2:00now, that would be the time to crack it.
- 2:02A Rolling Rock, perhaps from Beautiful Rd.
- 2:04Pennsylvania. Cheers to you.
- 2:08Yeah. I mean, I it felt like Columbia
- 2:09had the right idea early trying to get Kaiseto and Ramirez out
- 2:12into space. Ramirez, like from the jump, she
- 2:15was playing physical. I thought that was a good idea,
- 2:18but it just didn't last very long.
- 2:20They the USA, started to dominate the run of play
- 2:24relatively early in the proceedings and they just never
- 2:26really let up. Yeah, I think things kind of
- 2:28settled in a little bit. You know, this has been a little
- 2:31bit of an Emma Hayes calling card where it sometimes could
- 2:35feel like the US is playing a little too fast.
- 2:37And it's like, I get that we want to get out and run and kind
- 2:39of get out and play. But you know, now with the
- 2:42midfield that the team trotted out today, coffee heaps Haran,
- 2:47I'm sorry, coffee heaps, Johannes.
- 2:48I'm still getting used to that. I think that was a a real
- 2:52strength and and a place where I don't know that was that was
- 2:57that was a place to kind of like establish, you know, some
- 3:00control of the match, which I think they did.
- 3:02You know, they kind of slow things down a little bit.
- 3:03We're able to get players up field.
- 3:05I want to talk about Yasmine Ryan, like kind of flew under
- 3:08the radar, but sort of had an awesome game involved in both
- 3:12goals. You know, big place.
- 3:14You obviously get the assist to Macario for the first one and
- 3:17then starts the action, you know, with a take away, getting
- 3:20the ball back to Mikone, you know, over to Sentinor for the
- 3:23fucking missile. That was awesome.
- 3:28But yeah, I think Colombia, well, First off, they shouldn't
- 3:31be the 21st ranked team in the world That that's that's
- 3:34absolutely absurd. That feels more like a top ten,
- 3:38top 12 kind of team. They were at full strength, Good
- 3:42start, but I think they got stymied a little bit by by the
- 3:45US defense and the midfield as well.
- 3:47Yeah, I mean, the midfield was absolutely dominant.
- 3:50I mean, you, you get it right on the head with Johannes Coffee
- 3:53and then Yasmine Ryan. She was getting it done on the
- 3:56offensive side, but she was also drifting back on defense and
- 3:59making some important plays back there, too.
- 4:02It just like it just felt like Colombia wasn't able to get
- 4:05anything really going after the first couple minutes.
- 4:09I mean, I think when we talk about the midfield, but I think
- 4:12when we're talking about this game, I don't know if we've said
- 4:14her name yet, this was a Cat Macario game.
- 4:16She was absolutely dominant even before the goal.
- 4:18She was helping dominate the run of play great passes, getting
- 4:22into dangerous areas, had Columbia on their heels
- 4:26relatively early. I just think, you know, I, it
- 4:30just didn't seem like I, I agree with you, Colombia shouldn't be
- 4:34#21 in the world. I think they should be higher.
- 4:37It's just they just don't have the depth yet of, of the USA.
- 4:41So it's it's hard to win in a spot like this.
- 4:43Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, I think thinking back,
- 4:46we're winding back to the very start of the match.
- 4:48I was a little worried, you know, because you see Ramirez
- 4:51and Qasedo, you know, when they're leading the break, you
- 4:55kind of get to figure like, OK, well, these might be the two
- 4:57best players on the pitch. Or, you know, I think if they
- 4:59both hit their peak, that's certainly possible in any given
- 5:02day. But we were talking about a
- 5:04little bit pre show Chi Sato kind of totally neutralized by
- 5:09Emily Fox and the rest of the US Women's Action Team defense.
- 5:12What do you think USA was able to do against Kai Sato?
- 5:16It felt like she never really was able to get going.
- 5:19She had a couple, couple moments there where she was able to find
- 5:22some space. But I think the US started to
- 5:24anticipate some of her movements and some of her crossovers or
- 5:28just sort of like change of changes of direction.
- 5:31I'm not sure if that was just film or if, if they're just a
- 5:33little bit maybe closer to Kaiseydo's level from an from a
- 5:36football IQ standpoint. But did you see anything maybe
- 5:39from Fox? And I'm, I'm really happy that
- 5:41we're going to get Fox Kaiseydo again in the Champions League
- 5:44When when that get when that gets rolling.
- 5:46But what happened with Kaiseydo today?
- 5:48It felt like, and I thought the on the broadcast they mentioned
- 5:51it maybe once, they might have mentioned it twice, but I think
- 5:55the key was Foxes. She seems just more and more
- 5:59comfortable over the past year or so getting forward and she
- 6:02was just kind of pinning Kaiseto back and with her and Ryan had
- 6:06some pretty good chemistry there.
- 6:07I know we had talked a lot about in the Olympics, Emily Fox and
- 6:10and Trinity Rodman had some great chemistry on that right
- 6:13side. Feels like Fox is an intuitive
- 6:15enough player to kind of have that with anybody.
- 6:18You have Horan in the middle there who's who plays nicely
- 6:21with with Fox as well. And then to to our guy Blues
- 6:25point in the comments. There were so many bright spots.
- 6:28Not only did you have Fox and Ryan playing well, but then you
- 6:31just have Johannes serving up these genius passes on the wing
- 6:35and you just, if you're Kai Sedo, you have to be back there
- 6:38to help. Yeah, absolutely.
- 6:41I'm glad. I can't believe we got to about
- 6:42the seven minute mark to we got to Lily and her contributions,
- 6:47the ball she put over the top that Yasmine Ryan got to.
- 6:53This doesn't usually happen to me at all, but the the angle
- 6:57that Lily hits the ball, I'm like, Oh my God, did Lily just
- 7:00really kick this one out of bounds?
- 7:01And then when you see the replay, some wicked backspin on
- 7:05it, the ball just dies. Like if I was just like Phil
- 7:08Mickelson out there, just placing it right in a spot.
- 7:11The ball like just dies in the grass.
- 7:15Yaz is able to just run right onto it in the to your point,
- 7:18Kat Macario there to have like a really special moment to kind of
- 7:22cash in on that one. Lily was really great in this
- 7:26one, but also not not her, not not her like I think we've seen
- 7:31her play better even in even in some spots.
- 7:34It was great that she got the full 90, but I feel like she had
- 7:37a good game, but maybe not like not nowhere near her peak, I
- 7:41don't think. I think, you know, like and
- 7:43there's a lot of flux too, when and when you think about the
- 7:45line up, you know, no espresso in this one.
- 7:48We did have some coffee and Las cafeteros on the other side.
- 7:51So you know, like a little bit a little bit mixed mixed bag
- 7:55there. But I think she would there was
- 7:57some still there's some still chemistry building happening
- 8:00this evening. But even with that, young
- 8:02Johannes was able to kind of like really make an impact on
- 8:04the game and then, you know, have a hand in that first goal.
- 8:09Yeah, I mean, I think I'd agree we've we've definitely seen peak
- 8:13Johannes, you know, really dictate the terms of a match.
- 8:17I would say she was on the on the good to very good to great
- 8:23sliding scale. I would say Johannes was was
- 8:25very good. I, I, I thought the passing was,
- 8:28was really putting Colombia in some tough spots defensively,
- 8:32even before, even before that incredible backspin pass, which
- 8:36I'm glad you mentioned it because you on the replay, you
- 8:38could see it so clearly that the backspin on it.
- 8:41I was like, holy shit. I mean, and it was perfectly
- 8:45placed. It was weighted just just
- 8:47incredibly well for Ryan. But even then, before that she
- 8:50had a couple long passes where in my notes, I I think I'd
- 8:54wrote, yeah, I mean, it wasn't exactly ground breaking, but I
- 8:59wrote Johannes passing is creating problems for Columbia's
- 9:02back line. And then like I that was in
- 9:05somewhere in the 2nd 15 minutes and then it was right into the
- 9:093rd 15 where she gets that, that assist, which which reminds me,
- 9:13and maybe in the real record books, maybe there is not an
- 9:15assist for Lily Johannes on that play.
- 9:18But luckily we got the ITC record book.
- 9:20There's got a very clearly I'm saying that's got to be an
- 9:23assist. It's already in there.
- 9:27There it is. I mean, she was, I mean, she is
- 9:32just such a genius player at 17 years old.
- 9:37We'll we'll talk about Ali Sentinor as we kind of present
- 9:40as we kind of go through the match.
- 9:43But Johannes at 17, Centinor at 21.
- 9:48I would I would be concerned. It doesn't mean they're going to
- 9:50blow everybody out of the water every match, but every other
- 9:53team should be looking at that and being and thinking we might
- 9:56be in trouble. I mean, they would be dead on
- 10:00for thinking that because those two players were awesome this
- 10:03evening and a little mini pat on the back.
- 10:06But you know, we talked about going into this tournament when
- 10:09the rosters dropped. I, I remember having the, the,
- 10:12the, the notion that this could be an opportunity for one of
- 10:16these attacking players, especially no triple espresso,
- 10:19like somebody could step up. I think we talked about, you
- 10:21know, Yasmine Ryan talked a little bit briefly about
- 10:24Sentinor Mercario, who you also mentioned Sentinor might be that
- 10:29player that really is like, yo, I'm here.
- 10:32I'm not sure you could keep me off the field with, with what
- 10:35I'm able to do. But before we get there, I want
- 10:38to talk a little Myra Ramirez, because she was a beast.
- 10:41She's always a beast. She's a handful.
- 10:42Like defensively, she basically turned Terra McKeon and Emily
- 10:46Sonnet into a tasty bucket of BBQ chicken after the first goal
- 10:52and then missed a Bunny like a very, you know, uncharacteristic
- 10:56miss from Maya Ramirez. And I think had the effect of
- 11:00maybe deflating that Colombian side that is your, you know,
- 11:04when Kaiseto's not able to kind of get going, Ramirez gets a
- 11:07chance like that, which she I mean, she buries that 8 out of
- 11:1010, nine out of 10 pretty much all day to miss that one in that
- 11:15spot. Tough for Ramirez, but but what
- 11:19do you see from her overall in this one?
- 11:21Yeah, I mean, she tried, I think we had mentioned earlier she she
- 11:25tried to set the tone physically early, which is always a good
- 11:28move from her to kind of kind of impose her will.
- 11:32I thought Mickey Own bounced back from that pretty well
- 11:36throughout the course of the match.
- 11:38It's it is funny that you said that you feel like Ramirez makes
- 11:42that 8 out of 10, nine out of 10 times.
- 11:45My notes also say Ramirez misses a chance, that she probably
- 11:49scores 90% of the time. So I didn't go with the numbers.
- 11:53Like you, I I chose a percentage, but when she when
- 11:57she totally blows past Sonnet in the middle of the 18, I was
- 12:01like, oh, well, that's a goal. And I couldn't believe that she
- 12:04skied it over there. I think you're right.
- 12:05That felt more like the spiritual Backbreaker, which is
- 12:11tough when you're only down one NIL heading into halftime.
- 12:14But like, if you're if you're best player or at worst, if
- 12:19maybe somebody might rate Kaiseto over Ramirez, I
- 12:21wouldn't. But I I would see the argument
- 12:24possibly when your best player, your #9 misses that chance.
- 12:29It it felt like, OK, this you might be in for a long one
- 12:32because you might not get many more of those.
- 12:35Yeah. That was that was really tough.
- 12:37And I think looking at the stats here, Columbia managed seven
- 12:41shot attempts, none on target. That was pretty much the one I
- 12:45think that would have changed the entire tenor of the match.
- 12:48And she had space and time like, you know, not that she rushed
- 12:52it, but she almost could have like wound up a little or even
- 12:55like peaked up at the goal and then kind of try to place it a
- 12:58little bit in a little bit of of a cuter way.
- 13:02But All in all, you know, she she missed that one.
- 13:05And goes into halftime one NIL. Is that right?
- 13:09Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah.
- 13:11Goes into halftime one NIL at the half.
- 13:16Well, I guess what were what? Like what what where was your
- 13:19head at at halftime? Like was it, you know, did you
- 13:22kind of feel like, I mean, cause from my standpoint, I was like,
- 13:25OK, Columbia got off to a good start.
- 13:28US grab control of the first half, the last half, you know,
- 13:31last 30 minutes of the first half.
- 13:33And then it, you know, you, you, you factor in the goal and of
- 13:38like a very team natured goal to kind of put them up 1.
- 13:41You know, Myra misses that chance.
- 13:44It kind of felt like the US should have been in a little bit
- 13:47of cruise control, but at the same time, they didn't look
- 13:50extremely fluid. I think probably having to do
- 13:53with a lot of roster kind of upheaval, a new we've never seen
- 13:57this line up for sure. But what kind of like what was
- 14:00your mindset halftime going to the second-half?
- 14:02What were your expectations? Yeah, I'll read you right from
- 14:05my notes because at the half I always try to take jot down some
- 14:08stuff I want to say Shanice and Panda both in the in the in the
- 14:13comments. Thank you for hanging out with
- 14:14us. Shanice describes Johannes as a
- 14:17true box to box midfielder, 100% right.
- 14:21And Panda points out the midfield was midfielding for the
- 14:23first time in a long time. I mean that was that was really
- 14:27especially true in the first half that those were things that
- 14:30really jumped out to me. So straight from my notes I
- 14:33wrote, Colombia was dangerous, was able to look dangerous at
- 14:36times, mostly early, but they couldn't keep any kind of
- 14:38dangerous possession going. And USA and this is where the
- 14:42midfield comes and they were just swarming to the ball in
- 14:45waves and they made Kaiseido almost completely invisible out
- 14:49there. I think she had like 1 semi
- 14:51dangerous run. And then the last thing, the
- 14:54last two things I wrote not to, not to rehash things we already
- 14:57said, but Kai Sedo versus Fox in the Champions League, give me
- 15:00two matches of that immediately. I'm looking forward to that.
- 15:03And my players of the half, Mercario, Johannes and Sentinor
- 15:07and I didn't even know what was awaiting us on the other side of
- 15:11halftime from the Sentinor. But I she was, she was dangerous
- 15:14the whole time was was able to play the ball off the sideline
- 15:17multiple times and, and get into dangerous areas.
- 15:20I just thought, you know, we have a 25 year old, a 17 year
- 15:23old and a 21 year old. It's absolutely dominating the
- 15:26game. Yeah, totally.
- 15:28And I I want to throw in Jenna Neiswanger as well with regard
- 15:32to somebody who had a strong first half and I was talking to
- 15:36you about this little bit pre show Jenna Neiswanger for the US
- 15:38women's national team. Much different than club level.
- 15:41You know, Jenna Neiswanger for whatever reason.
- 15:44Maybe it's just sort of like some familiarity or maybe like
- 15:47seeing Fox on the other side just kind of, you know, balances
- 15:49things out. Maybe they can bring some of
- 15:51that chemistry over to Arsenal. We'll keep an eye on that.
- 15:54I want to read some Alex my Alex Sentinor notes from my from my
- 15:57book. So I wrote Sentinor some
- 16:00moments. Exclamation point bawling,
- 16:04please. Bigger holy fuck that was for
- 16:08the the goal was the holy fuck was the goal moment right, but
- 16:11makes sense that that goal to put the US up to I mentioned
- 16:15Yasmine Ryan, so she gets to take away deep in Colombia
- 16:18territory, gets it back to Terry McKeon, who then gets it back
- 16:22forward to Sentinor. I mean, I let out an audible, I
- 16:29don't know, probably the highest pitched squeal that I've let
- 16:33out. You know, maybe since since pre
- 16:34puberty. That was incredible.
- 16:38I I can't remember. I'm sure you're going to know
- 16:40this because you're much more of AUS miss national team
- 16:42historian, but have what? When was the last time the US
- 16:48had a player that had that level of rocket in their bag?
- 16:54Because I think, you know, we saw Fox do that for Arsenal this
- 17:00past week now, but Centenor, that's, that's her game.
- 17:05That's, you know, and they mentioned on the telecast that,
- 17:07you know, she, she went on Samuel's podcast and talked
- 17:11about her, you know, needing to develop her header, you know,
- 17:14game and just be more of like a, like a striker.
- 17:17And that was just on full display.
- 17:19But when, when was the last time the US had a player capable of
- 17:23that? If, if, if they've ever had a
- 17:25player kind of capable of of doing that at any kind of
- 17:28consistent level. OK I'll ask you flatter me by
- 17:32referring to me as more of AUS women's national team historian.
- 17:36I appreciate that. I'll ask the chat to help us
- 17:39out. The first two players that came
- 17:40to mind. I started to chuckle there when
- 17:42you mentioned that she was on Sam Mewes's podcast because Sam
- 17:45Mewes could score from range, had an had an absolute laser off
- 17:50of her right boot. I would say Carly Lloyd had that
- 17:54in her bag where she can score from distance.
- 17:58Those are the 1st 2 that come to mind.
- 18:00I know I'm I know I'm missing a few, but when as the play
- 18:05happens, Centenor collects the ball from Mickey own, you know,
- 18:09as soon as she makes that one cut inside and she's getting as
- 18:14soon as she makes the cut, she's like, I'm getting this on my
- 18:16right foot and I'm going to fire.
- 18:17I don't care that I'm like 25 yards out.
- 18:21She might have been she might have been further than that.
- 18:23I think so. And, and as soon as she cuts
- 18:27and, you know, she she knows she's going to fire her and she
- 18:29just launches it, you know. Colombian goalkeeper.
- 18:33Is it Catherine? Just want to make sure.
- 18:35Yeah, Catherine Tapia, who's a cop apparently.
- 18:38We found out on the broadcast. Completely frozen has no chance
- 18:43at it. I would have liked to see the
- 18:45body Cam footage as that goal went in from Centenar.
- 18:49Yeah, Tapia, the right to remain silent on that one.
- 18:51So we we laugh about like being like rooted to the spot.
- 18:55So Centenor pulls the crossover and like sits down the defender
- 18:59and then you you rarely see the frozen goalkeeper, so frozen
- 19:04that she that just falls. Backward.
- 19:06Yeah, that was great. Just like oh.
- 19:08My. God that was insane.
- 19:10Shout out to our guy Blue, who also is calling out Centenor's
- 19:13defense, which I thought was extremely spirited,
- 19:18entertaining. It was great to see set and
- 19:20we're just mixing it up and then just happy to be like, you know,
- 19:23I have attacking players here. You know, I, I play in Utah
- 19:26where I don't necessarily have this for sure.
- 19:30I I'm going to get the ball and with my accuracy and my touch,
- 19:34I'm going to get the ball up field and I'm going to play some
- 19:36defense here and really mix it up, which was so cool to see
- 19:39because Columbia came out really physical, really trying to set a
- 19:43tone. And I think the, the 1st 10
- 19:46minutes I wrote down. So coffee takes a shot to the
- 19:49face, you know, early 38°, you know, was the weather report.
- 19:55So that couldn't have felt good. Pavi took a shot as well.
- 19:58Nice swung or went flying out of bounds at one point.
- 20:01Tara Mikon as well. So it it was, it was definitely
- 20:04a physical match up. Really cool to see Ali Sitnor
- 20:06kind of mix it up or be happy to.
- 20:09Yeah, I mean she has a lot to her game.
- 20:11I'm I'm glad you point out that she plays bigger than she is
- 20:13because I always, always forget. I think she's listed at 5 foot 3
- 20:18and I I she doesn't look like that on the field in in any real
- 20:24way. So I mean, we talked about her,
- 20:26you know, pre match in our in our last episode where we kind
- 20:30of previewed the she believes cup or I think we talked about
- 20:34her when when the roster came out.
- 20:36I mean, she's just it, it's easy to say because she's the number
- 20:39one pick. I think it's cool that she's the
- 20:41number one overall pick in the final NWSL draft ever.
- 20:44That'll be cool trivia as as her as her career goes on, She just
- 20:48couldn't be any more of a can't miss prospect.
- 20:52She is a superstar. There is there is no doubt about
- 20:55it. And, you know, we don't, we
- 20:57don't have to talk about all the machinations now, but you're
- 20:59right where you have to find a way to get her on the field with
- 21:04triple espresso. So I, I, you know, I don't know
- 21:07how it's how it necessarily is going to happen, but Emma Hayes
- 21:11has to find a way. Yeah, I agree with that.
- 21:15I mean, I think it's a tough spot because you think about
- 21:19maybe we could think about that front 4.
- 21:21If you consider like include like the 10 in that set, you've
- 21:26got obviously Sophie Wilson, Swanson, Rodman, then you've got
- 21:32Macario. Sentinor's in the mix there.
- 21:37Jaden Shaw is probably on the outside looking in, but like I,
- 21:43I do kind of feel like Sentinor's going to push for one
- 21:46of those spots. Maybe it's the Swanson spot.
- 21:49We'll have to kind of keep an eye on that.
- 21:51But either way, Sentinor's coming.
- 21:53Like, I think, I think it's only a matter of time before, you
- 21:57know, she's she's at the Sharpie level of, of getting penciled
- 22:01into the line up. Any other big takeaways from the
- 22:07match? You know, I, I just think, I
- 22:11know we talked about the midfield a little bit.
- 22:13I, I just want to say it felt like Laci Santos did everything
- 22:17she could. I mean, it was she it was a
- 22:19scrappy performance from her, but her Restrepo and Usmay, you
- 22:25know, again, I I hate to like repeat it, but they couldn't get
- 22:28a damn thing going there. There were also moments where
- 22:31they're trying to play the ball forward and it just felt like
- 22:33Coffee and Johannes are just converging on the ball and just,
- 22:37you know, popping it out and there's Ryan standing right
- 22:39there in perfect position to start getting the ball forward.
- 22:43Yeah, I mean, that's the kind of midfield play that we want to
- 22:47see. And I wonder when you talk about
- 22:49that, that front 4, you know, maybe because of and Macario
- 22:53looks great and I hope we never see her get injured again.
- 22:57But maybe in that rotation, perhaps Sentinor could spell
- 23:01Macario in certain matches or if you have a quick turn around,
- 23:04you know, maybe you want to be careful with Macario's injury.
- 23:06I could see that. I'm with you though.
- 23:08You know, they played Sentinor. She played a lot on the left
- 23:10wing today. It could be it could be a
- 23:13situation where she spells Swanson occasionally.
- 23:17So a lot of a lot of good problems to have for USA wasn't
- 23:22Colombia's night doesn't really it doesn't take anything away
- 23:25from them. I think their their manager.
- 23:28I want to Marcelia, Angelo, Marcelia, you know, he had
- 23:32pointed out like the things they're working on is like their
- 23:35physical conditioning, their ability to play at pace through
- 23:39long stretches. I think that dude has the right
- 23:42idea. I think he's done an admirable
- 23:43job coaching that side. And, and I think he's he's on to
- 23:48the right things of like, OK, if as we kind of build our depth as
- 23:52a squad, we just need to make sure that we are as well
- 23:55conditioned and as tough as possible.
- 23:58Yeah, totally agree with that. Definitely trending up in terms
- 24:03of, you know, kind of like world they're going, they're going to
- 24:05be a force I think for the foreseeable future here
- 24:08especially. I mean Myra I think is
- 24:10definitely, I don't think she's 26 yet.
- 24:12Sure, she might have just recently turned 26.
- 24:14And Kaiseido definitely still a baby as well.
- 24:17And they've just got professional players like up and
- 24:19down the pitch, you know, both of the Audioses, Lacy Santos,
- 24:23you know, they brought on Ana Maria Guzman later who was
- 24:27involved in a near GOAT. Like, you know, Colombia
- 24:29actually had some looks late, I think the last 10-12 minutes.
- 24:32You know they were able to kind of find some crevices but not
- 24:36really able to kind of cash in on anything big in terms of the
- 24:41EU s S next match up I'm looking at the line up here trying to
- 24:49think through who I would be excited to see suit up.
- 24:53We also got some Michelle Cooper minutes in this one.
- 24:56I thought she played really pretty well.
- 24:58Yes, yeah, I totally agree. That's why I want to jump in.
- 25:01I thought, I thought Michelle Cooper fit in really nicely.
- 25:04She came on for Yasmine Ryan. She immediately played physical.
- 25:08I I can't remember who it was. It might have been Katusbe who
- 25:13they both go for a ball and like they just like it's it's one of
- 25:17those where both players feet hit the opposite sides of the
- 25:20ball and Katha Usman like just bites it because Michelle Cooper
- 25:24is just a Mack truck out there. It might have been Usman.
- 25:27I can't remember which Colombian player it is, Forgive me, but
- 25:29like, and then the camera goes to where you just hear go and
- 25:34you know, I'm not laughing because she's in pain.
- 25:36But it's just like it was, it was very clear that Michelle
- 25:40Cooper amongst professional athletes is still is a real
- 25:44force, is still a percentage like just more physical than the
- 25:49other great athletes out there. Yeah, absolutely.
- 25:52And I think is smooth on the ball, is smart, you know, kind
- 25:56of like it has good, good placement when she's crossing
- 25:59the ball in. So I'll be excited to see
- 26:02Michelle get some more minutes. No Claire Hutton today, No Emily
- 26:07Sam's, no Emma Sears, no Alyssa Thompson.
- 26:12I guess we'll see if there's if there's any line up machinations
- 26:15going into the Australia match up in Australia.
- 26:18I I didn't catch too much of that one versus Japan, but I
- 26:20know they got smacked pretty good.
- 26:23I I feel like it'll be a good. So I mean, we'll see because I
- 26:28can see Australia kind of bouncing back and, you know,
- 26:31trying to summon a little bit a little bit of like kind of like
- 26:34professional or or national pride in this one against the
- 26:37USA before what could be a massive, you know, final match
- 26:42against Japan. But what are you going to be
- 26:45looking for against Australia? Like, kind of like knowing that,
- 26:49you know, they've got talented players.
- 26:52I think chemistry wise, they're they're for whatever reason, you
- 26:56know, they they haven't really been able to.
- 26:57They just don't look that cohesive, you know, kind of like
- 27:01without Sam Kerr. Yeah.
- 27:03But from the USA standpoint, what are you going to be looking
- 27:07for when those two teams speed up?
- 27:10Well, I'm surprised that I'm going to be the guy to do this.
- 27:12I, I know you mentioned her and I'm also I'm surprised she
- 27:14wasn't the first name you mentioned.
- 27:16I want to see Emily Sam's play. I, I'm good now.
- 27:19I think I got one of my one of the things that I I first
- 27:23thought of when I saw the line up pre match was OK, It makes
- 27:27sense. I know we had talked about could
- 27:30we see Sam's and Davidson as the two center backs.
- 27:34Davidson doesn't appear in this match.
- 27:36But when the line up comes out and I go, OK, we're going to see
- 27:39Mickey Own and Sonnet because it maybe it doesn't make as much
- 27:44sense to play Mickey own and Sam's, even though I believe
- 27:47them both to be excellent center backs.
- 27:50You just don't have enough national team experience between
- 27:54the two of them. So if you're going to play
- 27:55Mickey Own at center back, you should probably start Sonnet
- 27:59next to it. We we had talked about two the
- 28:01kind of the some of the similarities, pardon me, some of
- 28:04the similarities between those two players.
- 28:07Maybe next match, I think I'll I'll place one sports take bet
- 28:11chip on. I think we'll see Sam's and
- 28:14Sonnet in the center back rolls against Australia.
- 28:17Interesting. I, I actually, if I had to make
- 28:21a pick there, I, I would actually expect either Sam's and
- 28:25Davidson or Sam's and McKeon. And the reason I say that is
- 28:30because I got the feeling and yeah, shout out to our guy Blue.
- 28:34I totally agree with you and Claire Hutton.
- 28:36Definitely want to see some Claire Hutton minutes next time
- 28:38around. But I got the feeling that Emma
- 28:42Hayes was like, let me throw these two players and obviously
- 28:47Emily Sonnets, you know, a, a tried and true, you know, US
- 28:52women's actual team player at this stage in her career,
- 28:55utility player, maybe not starting centre back, you know,
- 28:58at the absolute apex of of international football for this
- 29:02team. But I think Emma Hayes kind of
- 29:05wanted to put both of those players out there, Sonnet and
- 29:08McKeon, and just be like, OK, Kaistedo, Maya Ramirez, let's
- 29:12see what you 2 can do. I'm going to kind of throw you
- 29:14in into the hot water a little bit and kind of see what
- 29:17happens. Emma Hayes has been kind of
- 29:19famously talking about wanting to be too deep at every
- 29:23position. And obviously I know I, we know
- 29:26that Germa's got one of those spots.
- 29:28We imagine that Emily Sam's got maybe one of those spots, maybe
- 29:32not as tight a grip, but pretty tight.
- 29:36And I thought Emma Hayes was trying to just kind of see what
- 29:39she had with a couple of defenders.
- 29:40It's like, hey, if if things get tight and I have to go to these
- 29:43two players at center back, what, what would that look like?
- 29:47Yeah, that, that's an interesting way to look at it.
- 29:50Yeah, I guess I could see that if they go, if, if she chooses
- 29:54to go, we're live, baby. Luckily I hit the cough button
- 30:00there. If she choose what a perfect go,
- 30:04you know what? That's why the cough button
- 30:05exists. If if she chooses to go full
- 30:09rotation, then yeah, I I think that would be really cool to see
- 30:12a Sam's Davidson pairing. I wonder, like, you know, it,
- 30:18it's a four team tournament you're basing it off of.
- 30:21I mean, obviously every team's going to play each other, but
- 30:23you're this one's ultimately going to be decided by points
- 30:26and and goal differential. I mean, we could just line up
- 30:29and it's USA versus Japan. Whoever wins gets the trophy.
- 30:34I wonder how much I, I wonder how much that really factors in,
- 30:38if it's like, OK, well, maybe I'm running a risk with, with
- 30:42Davidson and Sam's instead of Davidson and Sonnet or Sam's and
- 30:46Sonnet or something like that. But I mean, the way I always
- 30:48look at it, I know people will try to crap on like a League Cup
- 30:51and be like, ah, that trophy doesn't matter as much.
- 30:54I do think the overarching feeling for professional
- 30:56athletes and professional coaches is, are we playing today
- 31:00or is is somebody going to get a trophy at the end of this?
- 31:03OK, then I'm going to play. I'm going to try to win.
- 31:05Like it's not like they don't look at any trophy as like, oh,
- 31:08I don't care about that trophy. It's like, no, I won as many of
- 31:11those as possible. So when I retire, I can look and
- 31:13say, look at all the, look at all the hardware I won.
- 31:16Yeah. No, I totally agree with that.
- 31:19I mean, yeah. I mean, there's a coach like
- 31:24Emma Hayes. She's probably doing calculus at
- 31:27levels that we that will never approach.
- 31:31Yeah. Probably about it.
- 31:35I want to look ahead of here a little bit.
- 31:36We talked a little bit about the Australia match up Sunday.
- 31:39That's happened Sunday, 5:00 PM Eastern and then the other
- 31:42Sunday match Yep, Colombia, Japan, that one's going down
- 31:452:00 PM Eastern. So by the time USA kicks off,
- 31:48we'll know what the Colombia Japan result is.
- 31:51I'm kind of hoping I mean, I, I love this Colombia side.
- 31:54You know, even though they, they played physical, I, I was kind
- 31:57of taken aback by and I, I always forget this, like I'm a
- 32:00just a general fan follower of global women's football.
- 32:04I kind of like love all of it. I am AUS as actual team
- 32:10supporter. I'll I'll say that and a
- 32:12follower for sure. I, I will root for them
- 32:15absolutely, But I, I root for football.
- 32:18That's that's kind of like my, my rooting interest above above
- 32:21all else. With that said, I do want to see
- 32:24Japan beat Colombia and I do want to see USA beat Australia
- 32:28and I do want to see those two teams head into that final match
- 32:32up, you know, for, for those she believes marbles and then kind
- 32:38of see who comes out the other end because you look at that
- 32:40Japan line up, I, I, I didn't get a chance to watch it, you
- 32:44know, fully locked in. I'm going to go back and kind of
- 32:46like catch up on it definitely before Sunday's action.
- 32:50But you just look at who they had out there and it they're
- 32:53just absolutely stacked, you know, and they're unpredictable
- 32:56and they've got great chemistry. You can just have to see that
- 32:58from jump. That would be an epic, epic
- 33:02final match day match up if both those teams can kind of go into
- 33:06that game 2O and O. Yeah, for sure.
- 33:10I and I'm glad they set up the schedule that way.
- 33:12I don't know, You know, it's not like Australia and Columbia or
- 33:16the Washington Generals out there, but something makes me
- 33:19think they kind of set the matches up that way, thinking
- 33:21that could be a a live possibility.
- 33:24And yeah, I mean, those two teams playing for a trophy, I
- 33:28think it's it's something something we want to see.
- 33:31So, you know, I, you know, Shanice points it out.
- 33:33She likes the mix between experience and letting the kids
- 33:36cook. I think.
- 33:37Well, I think that's going to happen every match in this
- 33:40tournament, even if they're playing Japan to to win it
- 33:43almost. I mean, she's almost left.
- 33:45It's not like like she, Emma Hayes could could field a team
- 33:49of 11 super experienced starters.
- 33:51So they got to be some kids on there no matter what.
- 33:54But I I think she has the benefit of the kids she's
- 33:57putting out there. Also happened to give her
- 34:00probably the best chance to win. Yeah, yeah, I was just looking
- 34:03at the kids. The kids joke.
- 34:05Appreciate you Shanice for for chiming in.
- 34:07But yeah, Emma can trot out, I mean, almost like a 25 and under
- 34:11squad, you know, that's competitive and and maybe this
- 34:14Australia matchup is is the one to kind of make that happen
- 34:18because they've they've looked off kilter for a for a bit.
- 34:21But you know, you look at Sentinor, you look at Johannes,
- 34:24Emily Fox is still in in that age age band, the Thompson
- 34:27Twins, Clara Hutton, Michelle Cooper, still just a year or two
- 34:31in the end of yourself. So that could definitely happen.
- 34:35Would love to see that. And I think I think there's some
- 34:37appetite for it for sure from Emma Hay specifically for kind
- 34:41of not necessarily wanting to turn the page, but there's
- 34:44something about, you know, establishing the a philosophy or
- 34:49your philosophy under the broader US and national team
- 34:52philosophy and doing that with players that have made it.
- 34:55I think on the telecast they mentioned that maybe 13 or 14
- 34:58players have made their USA debut under Emma Hayes in just a
- 35:02short period of time. So I think that's kind of where
- 35:06things are trending. This Australian match up that I
- 35:08think is something to keep an eye out for.
- 35:10What's that line up going to look like?
- 35:12Is the youth movement fully kicking into gear?
- 35:15You know when they roll the ball out there on Sunday.
- 35:19Yeah. I, I, I, I'm anxious to see it.
- 35:22I think, I think that's what we can bet on.
- 35:24I think we will see it versus Australia.
- 35:29And then you just, you know, and maybe just as you said, rooting
- 35:32for football, that might lead to us getting a dog fight out there
- 35:36because you know, the Aussies, they got it.
- 35:38They, like you said, they got to try to bounce back in some way.
- 35:41And if they if they go out there and see a bunch of 25 and
- 35:44unders, they might think, OK, this is we do have a real shot
- 35:48out here. They they, they're going to have
- 35:49to feel their best lineup to kind of get that bad taste out
- 35:52of their mouth. Yeah, absolutely.
- 35:54And you know, they still got Mary Fowler or they still got
- 35:57Cat Lee, LA Carpenter, a ton of a ton of talented players for
- 36:00sure. So they could definitely make it
- 36:03a game. They've got the talent.
- 36:04You know, it's just going to be a matter of can they put all
- 36:06together on the road here? All right, man, great, great
- 36:12opening to the She Believes cup. Anything else that you'd like to
- 36:14hit before we get out of here? I think the one last thing, and
- 36:19I know we don't always have to hit everything in our notes, but
- 36:21I just want to point out that block Lily Johannes had it right
- 36:24around the 80th minute where when they show, they show the
- 36:28replay, Johannes is not in the frame.
- 36:30And then as the Colombian player goes to goes to hit the shot,
- 36:34Johannes comes flying in with the sliding block.
- 36:37I mean, man, that is that is a superstar player at 17 years old
- 36:43and just the IQ is off the charts, man.
- 36:46So I mean, it's just like I you can't leave that match thinking
- 36:51anything other than what we were saying when the roster was
- 36:53named. There cannot be another roster
- 36:56moving forward that doesn't heavily on us on it assuming
- 36:59fitness. Yeah, yeah, I love seeing her.
- 37:02I I thought about what you said on the show a couple shows back.
- 37:05I love seeing her in the lineup and then she got the full 90
- 37:07plus. So that's the first time that's
- 37:10happened. Pretty awesome to see.
- 37:13Forgot to mention it on top. Congrats, man.
- 37:16Episode 100 for your guys. Look at us.
- 37:19Look at us hanging out. Shanice, we appreciate you, blue
- 37:23panda. We appreciate you.
- 37:24We're all celebrating 100 episodes together.
- 37:27We want to hit the, you know, we want to hit the button go live
- 37:30to celebrate this big US women's national team win.
- 37:33But yeah, it's been, it's been a good run for us too, you know,
- 37:36letting, letting the old guys cook as well.
- 37:39There you go. Yeah.
- 37:41You know, approaching their 40s, maybe in their 40s.
- 37:44Who's to say that's nobody's business but.
- 37:48I wish I was. I wish I was afraid of my 40s.
- 37:52With that in mind, I think it is fitting because you and I have
- 37:55to, you know we have been Emily Sonnet enjoyers.
- 37:58I got to watch your live here for that one season for Seattle
- 38:02Rain. So let me just say this.
- 38:05It feels like there is some synergy there.
- 38:08We love the way Emily Sana plays.
- 38:10We love her mentality. She celebrated her 100th cap
- 38:15today. Let's go.
- 38:17And this is the 100th episode of the end to the channel podcast.
- 38:21I feel like that only means that we have to induct Emily Sonnet
- 38:26into the ITC Hall of Fame. Let's go.
- 38:29Unbelievable. Unbelievable by you.
- 38:33We're a committee, so I mean, I need the cosign from you. 100%
- 38:38cosign. I mean, you know, I've talked
- 38:40about Emily Sonnet plenty of, plenty of time in my past.
- 38:44That's exactly my kind of player.
- 38:46Just mix it up there for there, for all of it.
- 38:50She's just there for whatever's happening.
- 38:52She's there for it. Love watching her play.
- 38:56I I just kind of want I don't know, I, I, I, I almost want to
- 38:59go back and and watch, you know, some old Emily Sonic tape, you
- 39:03know, just to kind of see what what I missed.
- 39:05You know, obviously I'm only a few years into into the women's
- 39:08game, but total cosign. We were talking about a pre
- 39:11show. Emily signed it.
- 39:13Only the 4th player inducted into the ITC Hall of Fame.
- 39:17That's incredible. Yeah.
- 39:19As a recap, Aaron Cuthbert, I Tana bow, my tea.
- 39:22Orlando Pride legend Corey Dyke, who gave you the salute on our
- 39:26show? Of course, automatic hall.
- 39:28And that was a Yeah. No, five year Grace Beard.
- 39:30She goes right in for the salute.
- 39:33Emily sought it on. I mean, get her the green
- 39:35jacket. Yeah, I guess.
- 39:36Yeah. Our logo's green.
- 39:37We can we can just like put together some kind of green
- 39:40jacket for her theoretical Internet digital green jacket
- 39:44for Emily. So Congrats to you on on this,
- 39:47this, this crappy accomplishment of getting into our shows Hall
- 39:49of Fame. But yeah, 100 episodes, 100
- 39:52caps. Love the synergy, love the
- 39:54alignment written in the stars. There it is.
- 39:57Yeah, We are the we give out the ethical green jacket, not from
- 40:00that golf tournament that some people care about.
- 40:02We have the green jacket that is that is built on good things.
- 40:05So yeah, Congratulations to Emily Sonnet.
- 40:09Wonderful. All right, man.
- 40:13Yeah, definitely. Yeah, she's her phone's ringing
- 40:16off the hook right now. I'm sure.
- 40:18All right, man. I think.
- 40:19I think we did it. There's been another episode of
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