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#94 Weatherman Sam Mac: Travelling Dad, Drive-Thru Dinners and Tackling Newborn Life · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Matthew, I wonder what the weather's going to be like today.
• 0:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not too sure, Ash, I don't know myself personally.
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: And then we had someone here today who could help
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: us forecast.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: What it'll be. What about Sam Mack?
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: Oh that took us four hours to script and record
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: that little joke.
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  Speaker 1: Was it worth it? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Sam Mack is, of course the beloved weather man on
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: Sunrise since twenty sixteen. His, of course, engaged to Rebecca.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: They have two beautiful children, Margot, who was born about
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: two years ago, and Mabel Ash get this, Get this?
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: Three weeks? Three weeks. Yeah, he's knee deep in the
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: newborn phase.
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: Fresh out of the oven. I tell you right now
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  Speaker 3: he looks great. Must be all that TV makeup.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: Again? Three hours to script that. One.
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: One of the unique things about Sam mac is the
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: fact that he became a dad a little bit later
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: in life, closer towards edging towards is forty did.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: You say it?
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  Speaker 2: And he met Beck during COVID time, so a very
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  Speaker 2: unique start to a beautiful relationship.
• 1:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, fell in love over zoom before finally being able
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  Speaker 3: to meet in person. We were just thankful that Beck
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  Speaker 3: wasn't catfishing lovely.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, it's another three hours for that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's get the man himself on the mic so
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  Speaker 2: he can tell his story. Welcome back to three doting dads.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Mattie Jamsh I am quadruple Threat, Sam Mack, quadruple Threat.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what the four things are yet. Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we can workshop what they might well figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is out
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and the relatable. And if you've
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: come wanting any advice, normally we say don't bother. However,
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: today we have an experienced dad who's currently going through
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: deep in a newborn phase and he looks quite fresh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really forgot, Thank you, I'm TV ready. I've
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  Speaker 4: straight from the show. I normally carry my own ring light,
• 2:25
  Speaker 4: but not necessarily in a podcasts, although you do have
• 2:28
  Speaker 4: multiple iPhones pointed at me, which is not unnerving at all.
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  Speaker 1: We want every angle, every single angles. Hilton is backus.
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  Speaker 1: Be honest. Are you wearing any foundation?
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  Speaker 2: Are you?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? I am?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, of course, I'm just excited to watch each other.
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  Speaker 4: I normally do a little little dab under the eyes
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  Speaker 4: just to hide the bags a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be silly, don't make it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it makes a huge difference, but I
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  Speaker 4: think it just makes me feel like I'm going into battle.
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  Speaker 1: We're ready to deliver Australia their weather. Whenever we went on,
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: like could go on at the Morning Show or whatever,
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: we go on, they're like Matt's they do Matt's makeup,
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: and then I sit down, They're like, no, you're good.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, you can't make me look at
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  Speaker 5: that's a compliment. Usually they're like, you know where that hat. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: They're like, you're fine enough.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: Shadow.
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  Speaker 4: It's the thing like some guys who are too blowkey
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  Speaker 4: when they do go into a TV thing, they try
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  Speaker 4: to put makeup on.
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: It just looks like they're doing a really bad drag impression.
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: With you.
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  Speaker 2: I only walk out and I've got new nail polish
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  Speaker 2: and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Like, is this necessary? No pack, You've got an a pack. Sam.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to talk about you as a dad,
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  Speaker 2: but before we go there, I want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: another woman in your life who is very important, Loretta,
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  Speaker 2: my dear mother. And I kind of feel bad because
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  Speaker 2: your dad is in the picture. He well, well, he's
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  Speaker 2: kind of taking the picture.
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  Speaker 4: I know your mom far more than I know your dad.
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  Speaker 4: Hang on, should I know about this? How do you
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  Speaker 4: know my mom? Loretta come downstairs?
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  Speaker 1: Piece is your life?
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  Speaker 2: Well, because she's a bit more I'm assuming she's more
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  Speaker 2: happy to oblige with being in the content and being
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  Speaker 2: a bit more like front center as opposed to your dad.
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  Speaker 4: It's interesting you say that, because it's more that she's unaware.
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  Speaker 4: She doesn't know that, And that's why the reason that
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  Speaker 4: I like featuring her on some of my I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I share, like you guys, I share a lot of
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  Speaker 4: what goes on, not everything, but like little bits and
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  Speaker 4: pieces along the way, and the people to follow. You
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  Speaker 4: get to know your you know your animals, whatever it
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  Speaker 4: is going on in your life. And Mom's obviously a
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  Speaker 4: constant in my life, and she just doesn't realize that
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  Speaker 4: I'm filming half the time, which means you get real
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  Speaker 4: moments like when she got to Sydney. She lives in Adelaide,
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  Speaker 4: got to Sydney the other week. She was so excited
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  Speaker 4: about this past she had that could get her on
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  Speaker 4: any transport, public transport. Yeah, and I don't use public transports.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on TV. But she was actually so excited.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to say, more excited about the Opal car
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  Speaker 4: than seat her grandchildren.
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  Speaker 1: Look at this scene, drives pass, he runs out the
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  Speaker 1: front door.
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  Speaker 4: So I covertly film those little moments. And it's amazing
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  Speaker 4: because so much of social media, so much of what
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  Speaker 4: we see on TV, etcetera, is from matter of faction.
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  Speaker 4: You know, everything is set up. It's like, can you
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  Speaker 4: say that again? That happens right, But with Mum it
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  Speaker 4: is raw, it is real. And she now gets stopped
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  Speaker 4: out and about like she'll be doing her shopping at
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  Speaker 4: Tea Tree Plasa in South Australia and people come home
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  Speaker 4: and go they'll go Loretta, Loretta, and she'll my mom.
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  Speaker 1: She is so friendly.
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  Speaker 4: My mum still thinks that everyone that follows me on
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  Speaker 4: Facebook or Instagram, I know them personally. So she will
• 5:40
  Speaker 4: say them, how do you know Sam? And they'll say
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  Speaker 4: I watch him on Sunrise and I follow his Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I don't know from school or anything,
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  Speaker 1: just pure innocence. I love She's the best.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm basing this of what I've seen
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  Speaker 2: on TV on social media. Seems like you like your
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  Speaker 2: I love my mum, seems like you have a great relationship.
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  Speaker 4: Was it always the case? Were you like a mummy's
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  Speaker 4: boy growing up? Yes, undoubtedly, always a mummies boy. Have
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  Speaker 4: a great relationship with my dad as well, and so
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: much of what I do. I spoke about this in
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  Speaker 4: my book, which you guys obviously read as research before today's.
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  Speaker 1: I just finished it.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get into that in more detail. I want your
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  Speaker 4: thoughts in chapter six, in particular.
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  Speaker 1: Ash we're talking about that we're not recording my dad.
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  Speaker 4: I think I inherited, you know, the entertainment. He played guitar,
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  Speaker 4: he sang songs. He is a bit of a joker,
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  Speaker 4: a bit of a character. Whereas Mum I feel that
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  Speaker 4: I've inherited, you know, the loving nature. She also has
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  Speaker 4: a great sense of humor, you know, just those principles
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  Speaker 4: of like eating, well, all those basics that are so important.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm very very lucky that I got you know,
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  Speaker 4: this from Dad, this from mum. And Mum is just
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  Speaker 4: like you say, so innocent but just happy to be involved,
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  Speaker 4: happy to be invited, happy to be at the table.
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  Speaker 4: So it's great. It's easy to get her in bold.
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  Speaker 4: We do want to get her on. For example, when
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to come to the logis with me. She
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  Speaker 4: was my plus one. Had nothing to do with the
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  Speaker 4: fact that I couldn't get a date at the time.
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  Speaker 1: What was your dad like? Well, Sam, what about.
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  Speaker 4: I took dad to Sir Paul McCartney, so we were aware.
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  Speaker 1: Your asshole one in lands, isn't it context? Oh, this
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  Speaker 1: guy's the worst out. He took his dad to support.
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  Speaker 1: I know. It was like talking about this story.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, what's the what's what's the problem? I
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  Speaker 5: was like, you got to say both. It's like I suppose, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: could you not.
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  Speaker 1: Get tickets for all three of you?
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  Speaker 4: I got two tickets? Who do we need to talk
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  Speaker 4: to you to get you a pay? I got two tickets.
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  Speaker 4: It was my dad's birthday. My dad and my mum
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  Speaker 4: live in Adelaide. I don't get a lot of time
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  Speaker 4: with them. My dad and I bonded over music many
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  Speaker 4: many years. He taught me how to play guitar. Where
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  Speaker 4: a Beatles household. It was really special for me to
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  Speaker 4: take Dad. If I told ahead of time, she would
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  Speaker 4: have ruined the surprise. Within eight seconds of the phone
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  Speaker 4: call ending, she would have given those really like you.
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  Speaker 1: Know I know something, but you don't hints that are obvious. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I hope you like the Beatles, That's what that's obvious.
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  Speaker 1: Ever been to alie Unstadium before? Like, Mum, what are
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  Speaker 1: you doing on the sixteenth of March? Oh? God?
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  Speaker 4: So I took them out for dinner, beautiful dinner. I
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  Speaker 4: had organized for my fiance Rebecca to spend the night
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  Speaker 4: with Mum. They had some cool things planned, you know,
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  Speaker 4: putting Margaret out of sleep. We went for an early dinner.
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  Speaker 4: Then I surprised both of them by telling Dad that
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  Speaker 4: he was going to see you. Not as some people
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  Speaker 4: have pointed out on social media, I probably should have
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  Speaker 4: let Mum know ahead of time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It just goes to show there's two sides to evil
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  Speaker 4: on social media. As you guys know, there's no room
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  Speaker 4: for context a lot of the time. If I'd given
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  Speaker 4: the backstory to what was going on and why I
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  Speaker 4: couldn't keep it would have been like three views.
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  Speaker 1: All right, No one would have been interested. They stick
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  Speaker 1: to the next thing.
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  Speaker 4: They If I put in there that I'd taken Mom
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  Speaker 4: to Elton John, I took her as my plus one
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  Speaker 4: to the logis you know, like she has her own hashtag.
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  Speaker 4: She think just all over my socials, like if I
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  Speaker 4: tried to explain that it just doesn't know.
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  Speaker 1: People have such short memories.
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  Speaker 4: But that one actually of the few things that have
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  Speaker 4: happened where you know, you've become a story where it's
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  Speaker 4: out of your control. And that did go quite big.
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  Speaker 4: It was on a lot of news websites internationally.
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  Speaker 1: There were like.
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  Speaker 4: American bloggers talking about me as a bad child, and
• 9:24
  Speaker 4: I was like, what, you're in Mississippi, you don't know me.
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  Speaker 4: That one actually did annoy me a little bit, like
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  Speaker 4: I felt that one because I know the truth and
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  Speaker 4: I know how much I admire my mum and how
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  Speaker 4: much I do for my mom. I hope that I
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  Speaker 4: am the great son to my mum, And that one
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  Speaker 4: was like that little bit too close to the bone
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  Speaker 4: where I was like, that's not the case at all.
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  Speaker 1: Was Loretta buying into this at all? That narrative?
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  Speaker 2: Was she like, yeah, I have been hard, Sam Mac is.
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  Speaker 1: A bad sun. She was oblivious to an all classic Loretta.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think she even knew, isn't it.
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  Speaker 4: And we sent our heaps of videos from the concert
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  Speaker 4: as well, which, as you know, it makes up for
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  Speaker 4: just not being there.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely, Wow, and when you're just to skip back,
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  Speaker 2: you're working in radio in South Australia. Also a proud
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  Speaker 2: South Australian as well, represent so few of us.
• 10:16
  Speaker 5: Matt's from a lot of places I find name a
• 10:20
  Speaker 5: few of them. Brisbane, South Australia.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: I knew that one, but I can choose depending on
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: the guests. I probably spent about less than a year
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: in Port Agusta, all right, but in the right audience,
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like I I've always loved.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: South Australia, South Australia.
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: I feel like Matt doesn't say Porta Gusta very often
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: because the podcast numbers aren't that big there.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: It's not really going to translate to numbers.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out to our podcast listeners and Portagusta.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Hope you well, we are alive from Portogusta. I don't
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: even know where that is. How dare you've never been?
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: Was there any part of you that thought I may
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: end up working for Channel seven and I may end
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: up doing the weather?
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: Was there any little like that was planted in your list? No,
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  Speaker 1: even when they offered me the job.
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: I first of all, I thought it was a prank
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: because I thought content TV people are always mucking around.
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: And then the second thing I thought was that I
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: would have to like do some sort of short course
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: in meteorology, you know, at least a TAFE certificate or something.
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  Speaker 4: It's been almost ten years and I still haven't been
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  Speaker 4: asked for any weather credentious However, in fact, on a
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: number of occasions, I've forgotten to throw to the weather.
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  Speaker 4: So like I've done my shtick, you know, like talking
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: to some lady about the scones she's made, and then
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: we've had a little laugh and I'll be like, all right, guys,
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  Speaker 4: we'll see you the more in half an hour, and
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: then the host and the studio together, Hey, we kind
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  Speaker 4: of need the whole reason we crossed you, which is
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: to get the forecast for Australia.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, let's see you.
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  Speaker 3: Wh Who would just say is the most interesting person
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  Speaker 3: you've done you stick with before giving the weather?
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  Speaker 1: Who do you think? Oh, there's so many. I'm very lucky.
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  Speaker 4: I find that it's it's the random people or the
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: people that you don't know. It's almost like I feel
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: like I'm almost on Thank god you're here every morning,
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: because they are just walking shot and start having a
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: chat or they'll show up, you know, two minutes before
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  Speaker 4: the cross and be much more interesting than what we
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: had organized.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: I've got a great producer.
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: You've seen you've been there, Maddie on some of our
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: segments where you just it's very flexible, it's very fluid.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: You just kind of go with what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: But I love the random moments, like, you know, we
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: had a guy recently in Queensland who had no fingers
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: and he came over to me like twenty second before
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to air, and he's like, oh, I'd love
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: to be on the show.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: I love the show. Sam none at all. None at all.
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: A mechanical accident many years ago, and he goes my
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: nickname's fingers and I'm like, well, we're bumping that, guess
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: and having fingers off exclusive thing right, And he was hilarious,
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: and it's like, that's what I love about the role.
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  Speaker 4: Every day is a random adventure, some days more than others,
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  Speaker 4: but you just genuinely don't know what you're going to get.
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  Speaker 4: But I you know, I did a bit of improv
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: I enjoy being in the moment and you know, not
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: having too much of a plan, Like let's see where
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: it goes Sometimes for TV you need a bit of
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: a plan and for timings, But I love the nature
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: of you know, anyone can be on TV and we
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: go to these towns that have never been featured on
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: TV before, and you don't know what you're going to get.
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  Speaker 2: When did the anxiety or was there ever any anxiety
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  Speaker 2: like twenty sixteen, when you're first starting you're live TV,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know if you're going to have like a
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: nice young gentleman or maybe fingers two point zero. You
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: must have a lot of for your first cross in
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  Speaker 2: the morning, a lot of nerves built up.
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: No one's watching in the first cross, it's about five
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  Speaker 4: thirty five am.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: Your audience is around seven thirty eight am. Not that
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: we don't put effort into the early cross.
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: Director, if you if you're listening, can you you could
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: test out if your joke you can build, You can build.
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: As the morning goes on, it's still dark. You know,
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: everyone's still waking up, the show is still waking up.
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: There's not really as much time at the first cross
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: because they're doing the new headlines, et cetera.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: So you get time to kind of craft it and
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: find your rhythm. Over the morning. You meet people and you're.
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, they're great, We're going to save them for
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: eight o'clock fingers. Can you just stand by for a second.
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: But it is genuinely and I hope that it comes across.
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: We want it to seem that it's a bit off
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: the cuff. We wanted to seem like they're making this
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: up as they go along, or that wasn't supposed to happen,
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: because often when something wasn't supposed to happen, it's the
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: bit that people remember the most, or cringing at or
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: laughing at, rolling their eyes whatever. I'll take any of
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: those any day of the week because so much of
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: the news is depressing. It's sad. You know, kids watch
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: a show. You don't want them thinking the whole world
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: is dooming gloom. Another class example is yesterday where things
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: go wrong. We had a young kid at a school,
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: primary school named William Chen and he's a really good
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: hip hop dancer.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: And so we're organized, we meet him, we meet his mum.
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  Speaker 1: This is always a roll of the dice, a ray
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  Speaker 1: gun on.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and we we'd organized to, you know, have
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: him do his thing, and we've seen him doing in
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: rehearsal was amazing, like really challenged young dancer. We go
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: on the air and I do the build up. I go,
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: he's about to perform at the school spectacular.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Given up. This is William Chen. The Yui boom doesn't work?
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Have you guys?
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: Had yuei boomishes seriously? Okay, well maybe that's going wrong.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: But there's always some sort of like you had to
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: do your pass code, so the bluetooth disconnected or something.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Always you like weird beeps he liked. And William Chan
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  Speaker 1: is looking.
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  Speaker 4: Up at me with these expectant eyes like I'm got
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  Speaker 4: TV guy, will fix this, He'll be able to play music.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: My producer of the human emoji is scrambling like trying
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: to log back into William's phone to like press the button.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: Every second is like ten minutes eternity, And so what
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: do you do.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: You're live on air. You have to just do something.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: So I said, probably probably a little unfair to William.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: I said, Look, the thing is William is that good.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: He doesn't even need music, guys, He's with no music,
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: and I can see him looking.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: At me like, am I am all right weather man?
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: So he does and he's really good.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: And then the studio played some music which was so
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: out of time. It was like a Katie Ferry song
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: was something that William would never dance to, but he
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: did it. The crowd cheered, his schoolmates got behind him,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: and we turned it into a moment and you know
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: the end, you're like, you can see him performing at
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: the school spectacular, preferably with music.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: If you want to performance, He's like, don't play the music.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: We give you a high five.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: And that's the thing, Like that sums up the job
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: that is the people.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Rand that stuff like that, Like that's what I want
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: to see, like in the morning when it's like when
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: when you go to like a school like that and
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: you're interviewing a kid and the kid gets stage front
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: and he's like.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm like, yes, yeah, absolutely, Just ignore my
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: cat behind you.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Sam. By the way, are you running an animal sanctuary?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Here is beautiful somewhere in this there's a lokey on
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: your shoulder. Normally we lock them up before we record.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: We decided not to today. Raspberry is just going walkabouts.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: She's been very affectionateately. She may come onto your lap. Sure,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: don't be alarmed if you say.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: What I was going to say it is a safe space,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: but not from the outside.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Looking at at your job, it does look amazing, like
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: you must have the most amazing highlight reel of your
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: work on sunrise. As my cat, you can hear doing
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: a shit in the background. I apologize.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the keddy lid. I'm sorry. As a former
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: cat man, I feel you totally forget it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, but there is a double edged
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: sword to your job, and it's the fact that you
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: travel a hell of a lot. I think he said
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: you clock up like one hundred flights.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty and twenty undred and thirty average
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: per year. Oh my, yeah, it's a lot. That is crazy.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: And then one of the byproducts of that not being
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: in a town for a long period of time, I'm
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: guessing it's hard to meet people romantically.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Oh right, you're going way there. I do realize I've
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: got two kids and a hot fiance now. But there
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: was a time when you were lonely and sad.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about that. I'm still sad, just sad, tired,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: not lonely.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm guessing it was hard to meet people
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: when you're traveling so much. You're throwing everything into your job.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I wasn't really a data like I'm like,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: the idea just seem like a lot of effort. And
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: I didn't have a lot of time, particularly in this job.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Like you say, like so many flights, so little time
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: in each place.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: So guess is the weekend you want to just sit
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: on the couch and do nothing.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're exhausted.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: So it really genuinely took a back seat for quite
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: a few years. And then I think a lot of
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: my friends started to have kids and I sort of
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: like could see the joy that it was bringing them,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, this looks cool, and I
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: think I was more open to it, and I think
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: maybe subconsciously I was like, Okay, if you want to
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: find someone, if you want to do this, like you've
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: got to put effort into it, like anything. And so
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I started to make a little bit more time for it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: And crazily enough, it was COVID lockdown that, like so
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: many people brought Beck and I together roughly at this
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: age is what thirty nine forty two when you are right, yeah,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: but that's done the trick twenty one, So that age
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I would have been thirty eight.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, around that.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And we talk about women having a biological clock. Yeah,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: did you feel that at all being thirty eight then
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and not having.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: A lot time.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't think about it a lot, but
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: there was definitely that lingering thing in the back of
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: my mind of like, I don't want to be the
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: dad that everyone thinks is the granddad.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: And like, you know, it happens because people age at
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: different just wear that makeup.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: People you know, go great at some people go great
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: at twenty five. Like, there's so many variables in that,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: and it's a very superficial way to look at it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: I guess the second tier to that, not so superficial,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: was I want to be active, I want to be involved,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I want to be on it right. So yeah, I
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: think it's all kind of worked out the way that
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: it was supposed to for me. I feel like if
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: I was in this position a bit earlier, maybe I
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: wasn't at the maturity level.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Required and you know, bloody hard work.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: So I feel like now, I you know, I accept that,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: understand that, embrace that as best I can as well
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: as doing you know, the travel and the work and
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: the positives of my job is when we're in Sydney
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: for sunrise, which is quite often, I can be home
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: by ten am and have almost a full day with
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: the little ones, which a lot of dads don't get.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: A lot of dads literally out the door at seven
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: thirty home at five pm. They might see them as
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: they put them to bed and that's it until the
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: weekend and mum. So everyone's got a different situation.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: So you're thirty nine COVID hits and for you your job,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: all travel. We all know, states are locked up, people
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: are stuck at home. I mean, what does it look
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: like firstly for your job and then you met you
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: now fiance when you can't leave the house.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: How did that work? Yeah, it was a really for everyone,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: such a strange time.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: But like the nature of my job as weather man is,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to put it's so funny, like I
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: saw it in the corner of my eye and I'm like,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know what level of professionalism these guys are
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: do they just ignore the cat walking across the table
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: with mini little stuck to its books.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes you just walk through and if it's just
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Matt and I we'll just we'll just carry off.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I around that time TV's dot Chris Brown
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: is Good made of Mine. We formed a band I
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: remember that, yeah, called Tone Deaf Leopard strictly covers and
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: strictly fifteen to twenty second covers and with costumes. So
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: we were a band that was more about the visual
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: than the audio, which is.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Twenty seconds.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Like, I've dabbled in the guitar all my life, but
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: I can only ever play twenty seconds.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, you played the chorus and I'm like, all right,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: move on to the next song.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Do you think did that help or hinder the early
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: stages of the relationship with beck Well.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I feel like Chris's jawline brought a lot of attention
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: to my socials.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: No, we were just mucking around.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I think there was that weird period where you could
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: have four people in a house and you had to
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: be standing on your left foot and singing.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: There were so many rules.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Anyway, Chris and I would have a few drinks, play
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: some songs, dress up.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: It was just a fun Saturday night and long story short.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: One of Chris's friends was friends with Rebecca, my fiance,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: and she was in Melbourne and Victoria the world's worst
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: most lockdown.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a state in the world.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: And she said to me, hey, I think you get
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: along with my friend Beck And I said, all right,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: well she's requested the next song. She hadn't because we
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: just we wanted to do a particular song. I'm like, okay,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I'll just tag her in it. And that was literally
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: how we kind of with each other. And we got
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: chatting from there, and then I think she her family
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: live all over the world. She was pretty lonely at
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: that time, living by herself, like a lot of Victorians,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: And it just became like a daily check in, how
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: are you doing today?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: What are the numbers today?
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: And then over time we do, hey, let's do a
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: zoom on a Friday night, We'll do like the Grony nights,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: so we can make Negroni's and have a drink, listener
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: some music, and it became this really I just loved.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I got excited. I look forward to those moments where
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: we would get to chat to each other.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I could feel it was also that thing that we
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: weren't sure if it was a romantic thing or if
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: it was just like, are we making a great friend
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: out of this? And if I was, that's totally cool.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: But it got to a point where we're like, all right,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: the borders are riving a bit of pressure. It's been
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: a few months. I think we need a meet in person,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: and then we did.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: It's crazy, like from a pandemic, how many good things
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: have come from it? Yeah, I mean the pandemic has
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: changed my life completely in what way I didn't do
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: any of this was I was a corporate dog pretty much.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: And and like hearing a story like yours where it's
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: like you've you've found love during that for a time
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: where the whole world was suffering essentially and we've we've
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: been put on house arrest and people are dying and
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: But there now things have blossomed out of it. Totally wild,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: it really is. It's like you can't imagine or preempt.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: How those paths would go in that direction, but they do.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: And I actually wanted to write a song about it,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: which was we found Love in a hopeless place, and
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: I found out that I'd already been done. Rihanna Hurriy
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: beat me to it. It was about the pandemic that
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: was my experience.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah's to be.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Honest, I read somewhere and like, obviously anything you read
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: online in magazines.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: It's all true.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I heard that you spoke every single day for six months?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Is that true? That's true? Its me sick. I'm very lonely.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: So then what's it like the pressure then that you
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: put on yourself. You've got this amazing relationship over six months,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: speaking every day, every time you speak, you love it,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: you're feeling it, get tingles. Then what's it like that
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: first meetup in person? I don't really get nervous very often,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: even for TV. I've never like nerves aren't something, thankfully
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: that I've had to battle with. I mean, I get
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a little bit anxious and excited for something to go
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: well or something to work out in a positive way.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: But I don't get nerves, So I wasn't really nervous.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I felt so comfortable and calm with her already from our.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Chats, zoom, et cetera. Obviously it's a little bit different
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: in person. You know, does she walk with a limp
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: like all of these things? No, I'm joking out, but.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It's like there's very does have really good filters, not
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I wear makeup, So I think I was just hoping
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: that it would be what it had been, so far
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: over that five or six months and it was that
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: and better, like instantly felt calm.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: She's so non.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: TV and that, and that's a weird thing to say,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: but in my world, like I'm constantly meeting people in
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: TV and media, and you know, it's a bubble that
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: we work in.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: It's not like it's not a normal industry. And there's
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: lots of great.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Things to that, but there's lots of things that are
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: very superficial and not real to that. And so with Beck,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: instantly she really didn't know who I was in terms
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: of like TV. When she met Koshi for the first time,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: she said to him, Oh, do you go for Adelaide
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: or port Adelaide.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: He's the chairman of port Adelaide. You will not meet
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: anyone more known as a port Adelaide supporter.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: So she's sounds like, wow, yeah, doesn't look.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Like I'll be the judge of that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: So had you told her, and this is me prying,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: had you told her that you loved her?
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: It wasn't anywhere near that. It was just we really
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: enjoyed each other each other's company. We wanted to meet
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: in person. We certainly were nowhere near that. And it
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: took a little while to get to that, which I
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: think is great. I think it's it slowed things down.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: It gave us time to actually get to know each
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: other properly as people before it became anything you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: visual or physical or any of those things. It became like,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I really like this person is a sound werson. And
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: we ever worried over that time that you were getting catfished.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I wasn't.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: No, I wasn't good because I had the friend recommendation.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I would have been a pretty awful prayer. I'm going
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to set you up. And then she guys are sets
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: up an account Chris Brown, and it does have a
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: great jaw line.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: I did binge a lot of Catfish TV show when
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: I was Yeah, it's a good show.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: And that scares me a little bit. So I had
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: to ask the question, you just no question. There's so
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: many things now even that I go trick, Yeah, I
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: don't know if that was a prank.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Money right.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Actually, when my MANK calls me and it's a legitimate
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: call my bank, I don't engage with it anymore. I
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: don't engage and it really is the bank because they've
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: emailed me follow ups. I've seen the name of it,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: just be sophisticated and setting up Koby.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I check the voicemail and it's like, this is a
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: thing for me, And I'd been like sure several years. Catfish,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: what a show, What a great show. So then at
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: what point after you meta, sorry, after I met Loretta,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: so when I was born. So yeah, I've broken him.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I've broken him every wrong with the cat I can't
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: think about Catfish. Sorry.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: With Rebecca, after you start dating in person, you guys,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: like people would say that you move quite quickly in
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: terms of having your first child. At what point do
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: you start saying are we going.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: To have kids? Yeah?
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: You know what, the early days of our dating was
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: a bit different to yours. I didn't have producers to
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: set up the dates and twenty seven other women. Yeah,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: that's it was a different environment, Matthew. But what happened
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: was we very quickly felt very comfortable together. And you
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: feel like I'm getting the birds and the beast.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: So what happened?
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we both I think you know, beck is younger
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: than me, but I, like you were talking about before,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: biological clock like obviously was top of mind for her
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: and I was the last option.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: None.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Again, it was more a case of we didn't have
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: to force any of those conversations. It all just sort
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: of naturally, which sounds strange, but I think, like you
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: were saying before ash Covid, I think made everyone take
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: stock of their life, like what's important to me?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: What am I doing? Well? Is this a career? I
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: want all of those things.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I think we were all whether it was consciously or subconsciously,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: we're making those decisions. And so many people moved states,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: so many things happened in that period. So positives did
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: come out of it, And I feel like one of
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: the positives for us was that we once we knew
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: that we were into each other, we were so certain about,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: all right, well let's not muck around, like we don't
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: want borders to happen again, because at that point it
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: still could have happened again. So pretty quickly she was like, Oh,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: come to Sydney and we'll work it out from there.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: How many months into the relations she would have been
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a few months a few months in?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Did she have to quarantine? No? She didn't.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, it was one of those three periods where
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: I was like they announced the borders were open, She's like,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I'm packing the car coming.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how desperate are you know? I'm Jack and all
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the other picks and all the raspberry in great. Do
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: you remember the moment that Rebecca told you that she
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: was pregnant?
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I do, yeah, and I'm I don't know
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: if you guys are the same, but like, what is
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: the like accuracy of the tests? Like I'm not a skeptic,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: but I was like, can we do another one just
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: to like double chair two conspiracy there?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't like it wasn't like the movies. Yes,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it's like when I got the job as the weather man?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Am I really?
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: We did it. We did an.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Episode, We talked about the talked about the pregnancy tests
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: and how do you do.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It or we donk.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Do you dip it in in one it's like a
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: COVID test up the nostrils while out of it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: So it was amazing, like I was, yeah, I mean,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're same. You remember it so clearly.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: It's life changing in an instant and so many questions,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: so much excitement, all of those feelings, And it was
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: just as exciting the second time, you know, when Beck
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: surprised me on Christmas Day. Actually there was a lot
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: of surprises going on around that period. I proposed to
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: her on New Year's Eve eve. I didn't want to
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: do it on ne Year's Eve because it's too busy,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: too much going on.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And you did that.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Yes, I included her family in it because I knew
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: that that was the best chance of me getting her
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: over the line for yes.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: She's very fair public.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I had a heap of photos printed of like key
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: moments of our relationship and basically set them in the
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: shape of a love heart.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: You really trying to sell it? Yeah, looks there's evidence
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: fun one. Did you rope and your producer to print
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: out those photos?
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: No?
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I went to office works by myself.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: I paid fifty five cents per photo, a lot more
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: expensive for the frames. I put a lot of effort
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: into it because I knew that hopefully you want to
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: get my shot at it, and I wanted it to
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: be right. And I had her one of her brothers,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: she's got three brothers who she didn't know was in
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Sydney at the time. He wore a gilly suit and
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: army gilly suit so he could hide in the bushes
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: to film. It's like an army camouflage suit, but a
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: proper one with like shrubbery on it. He is in
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: the business of like video shooting video, so he knew
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: what he was doing. He's like, I'm going to make
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: sure that she can't see me. I'm like, okay. So
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: we did that and then yeah, proposed and it was
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: a yes, and then her parents came amazing. They emerged
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: in the bushes as well. They were all in bush suits.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: But back to what I was saying, Yes, that was proposal.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: But Christmas Day, Beck for my Christmas present, said I've
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: got a box for you and I was like, it's
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: a puppy.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a puppy.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: And then there was a poem in there, and the
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: poem basically explained to me in beautiful language that we
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: had another one on the way.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: So there was so much going on at that couple
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: of pea covered stick in there. No, there was a stick. Yes,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: there was a stick.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: And as we were hugging to like, you know, share
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: the moment, how exonody is this, Margo at that point
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: about a year and a half had grabbed the.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Stick and was literally about to put it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: It's funny you say about to like, we look like
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: an ice cream kind of actually didn't.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Thank goodness that this fly positive.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: How did it work with your job after Margot was born?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming media is a little bit different to a
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: normal nine to five. You can't take paternity leaves straight away, not.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Straight away, like it's tricky. That they were so supportive
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: and so on board with it. I was very lucky
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: we cut back the weekend travel. Often I would travel
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: on a Sunday. We kind of said, can we make
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: it Monday, fly out and generally get back on a
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Thursday or Friday.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: But did do the weather from the delivery suite?
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: We not have a bar of that.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: No, they were very, very flexible with it. I mean
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: it's still it's hard.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: But the way that I try to justify, like we
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: were talking about before, is you know, Okay, I might
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: be away two nights in the week, but on the
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: days that I'm home, I'm home, and like I can
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: have them for almost most of the day, which is
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: awesome because that freeze back up to have a breather
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: to do some work or whatever she wants to do.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: So at the moment, we're juggling it, and as you
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: guys know, every week is a new juggle with new challenges.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're doing pretty well with it all.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Did you find that, I know, September of last year
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: you took a month off as your paternity leave. Yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: was that period where you could completely forget about work?
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Was that any different to the moments where you come
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: home at ten o'clock and you kind of become dad?
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: So different way You're not as jet lagged of having
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: done the morning breakfast show and.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Flying that week. You're just in it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: You know what it's like with work, I'm always thinking
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: where am I traveling tomorrow? What time is my alarm
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: need to be said? What time do I need to leave?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Someone goes off? Yeah, there's all these elements. So I
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: didn't have that lingering over me.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: So it just gave you clarity to actually be more
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: much more present and just like, all right, what are
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: we doing today? Cool, We're going to go for a drive,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: We're going to do this, We're going to do a
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: little a couple of nights away, whatever it was we
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: were going to do.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: It was awesome. I love that freedom. So I'm lucky
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: enough to have a lot of leaves saved up.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Because I didn't because, as you know, I was lonely
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: and sad and a loser for the first So.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: People just rewind the episode. I didn't phrase it like that,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: man like with Margo, your first, your eldest. What sort
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: of baby was she? Was she a sleeper? Was she
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: a good feeder?
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: She she was a great feeder straight away, but she
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: was not a great sleeper, which I think everyone can
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: connect to. At some point we got a sleep specialist,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: a sleep trainer.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which was how many months in? Did you feel like?
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: It was about six or seven months in? We probably
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: should have gone a bit earlier on.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: It, but I feel like everyone says that we really early.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: We didn't know. Did you find that? It was more
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: about training you and your We still have her at
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: home training just sit in the gorway.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: I feel like we were doing some things wrong, or
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: we didn't have conviction with some of the things that
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: we were doing. So, you know, it's natural, particularly as
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: a first time parent, when your baby cries, you just
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: instinctively you're physically drawn to go and help. But we
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: had to kind of let go of that a little bit,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: give her a minute or two to try for herself,
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: and she.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Worked it out really quickly.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: First time we had we had because we had a
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: sleep specialist twice for the same kid. He owes me,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: that's for sure, but the first time for me, I
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: found it really traumatic because of that.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we I think we were at a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: point where it was like, fuck, we just need some sleep.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: But they also we're like, what are we doing the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: wrong thing?
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: And yeah, it's guilty parental guild and it's a very natural,
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: normal thing to feel.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: What was the moment that you guys yourself and Rebecca
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: said we need help here, we're struggling.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: I think it was when I was going away, Like
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: I felt really, you know, bad for her because her
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: family are all over the world slash mainly Victoria. My
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: family are in Adelaide.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: You know, she's got some friends here, but not a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: huge network here of support. So if I was away
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: for three nights or four nights, that's a long time.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: As you like it's it was. It was a lot
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: for her, particularly while I was away.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: So that made me kind of I guess, investigate and
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: research and go all right, how can we improve this
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: at least and and credit you know sleep by Steph,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: who was the lady that helped us. It honestly changed
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: things for us very quickly, within within a month. Yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: once you're given the correct tools in that it's it's crazy.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: How quick did they learn and adapt to it?
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: An Yeah, they regress like every kid regresses, I suppose,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: but yeah, a lot of people as well, thinking like, Okay,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: well you're going away for four days, it must have
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: been nice. But then you're also like you feel guilty
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: that she's my wife said, oh, your partner's at home
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: with the kid, and it's like, oh, I can I
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: can just imagine the night she's having without me totally.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: And what doesn't help is like the things that I'm
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: doing on TV, like you know, totally, I'm as a
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Gold Coast some new cocktail bar that's open.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: There's likemingo dancers and it's it's a bad look but
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: it's not reality, Like how did the show gone from there?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, admittedly I should have done that for five years?
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: How do you deal with that guilt as a parent?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I think everyone gets parent guilt, and I think it's
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: amplified so much more when you're away from your family.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you deal with it?
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: You chip away best you can, You offer solutions, you
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: offer options, You make sure when you're home, that you
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: are absolutely going above above and beyond even working ahead
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, I've board and.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Some of those easy lazagnas that are in the freezer
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: ready to go. If you don't get a chance to
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: eat tomorrow during bathtime, if it's chaos, that's there ready
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: for you. Take ten minutes, just those little little five
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: percenters so that yeah, you're contributing, you're not oblivious to it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good advice.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: And then if you're staying somewhere really nice, don't FaceTime
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: kualia it.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I did this what was in Japan, and it's like
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: only an hour difference timing, and I was like, if
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: they FaceTime at like six am, I better wake up
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: and get it because I felt like if I did.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: It and that probably like that fuck is sleeping in
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: at us. You kind of like there's no right way
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to handle those face. You can try to dress down
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: the background as much, it's like or like, guys, keep
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: it down just for five minutes. You can't.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: There's nothing you can do because the reality is they're
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: in the thick of it and you're with a roomful
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: of prostitutes.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not on that trip, not on that trip, ladies,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: keep it down. I still couldn't say ladies, but I
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: can't believe you've got a newborn three weeks? Three weeks, yeah,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: three weeks? How is it? Second time round?
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Just as amazing and just as challenging, different challenges. But
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: I think you have those little moments where like hearing
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Margo say Mabel, like say her sister's name. I love that,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Or when Mabel's crying and Margo runs with the dummy
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: and almost like chokes her, like trying to force about
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: like she means, well, that's that's the stuff that I'm
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: really really reveling in and loving to see just them interacting.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: It's so amazing when you get that first photo of
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: your eldest whole, yeah, youngest, the best. Never like that again,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: just like, don't touch me.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: How was it for you? Like they're going to too many.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I think I think in the early stages, you know,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: in the first six months, obviously a newborn is so
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: connected to mum and that period initially it really galvanized
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: my relationship with Marley, like we really stuck together, and
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I guess it took me a little while to then
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: build that same level of relationship with Lola, because obviously,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: like you know, when you're firstborn arrives, all your attention
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: is on them, and then you have two kids and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's diluted a little bit more.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: And so I actually found second time a little bit
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: harder to build that relationship. And not this is like
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: the worst way to say it, but you know when
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: you're like, when something is second time round, it's not
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: as special.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Sometimes. Wow, there is a quote for the post. Do
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: we get that, guys who are rolling on that, we're
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: going to edit all of this out.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I know we know what you mean because it's also
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: as well, it comes down to a job experience right.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Also, and also let me let me out here. Let
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: me give an example. Let me give an exam. Your
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: first birthday for Margo, How was it spectacular? Okay, we
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: had a we had a dancer named William Chann No,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I'm Jacob.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I guarantee for Mabel's first birthday it will be nowhere
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: near as spectacular and the money and energy.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Won't be as matched. I see that as a challenge.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I'm quite stubborn, like, well, we actually did have William Chance.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get where you're coming from. And you might
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: be right.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's Margo's birthday, second birthday this weekend and
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: compared to her first birthday.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: It's kind of like it's kind of like job experience, right,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: It's like the first time you do your job, you're
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: on TV, like, holy shit, I'm on TV.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: This is amazing. And now you've been doing it for
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: how many years? It might not seem as special because
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: you've I mean, you've built up that muscle memory and
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: like for you, like you were and I'm the same.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Our kids are pretty much the same age, so I
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: it became me and Oscar, you know, and you built that.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: You know, we butt heads yet, but you built that
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: different relationship you do with the younger one that you're
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: still you remember as well that Lola is younger by
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: the time that she gets to Marley's a you would
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: have built probably built that same relationship.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: I think that that's a good way to look at it.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: And that's definitely what I'm trying to do. Lean into
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: the positives of it, which is Okay, Margot, it's you
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: and I today, let's go do this, this and this,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Let's have an awesome day and then okay, when Mabel
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: gets to that older than you, make sure you've tried
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: to scheduling those days for her to have that time.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: We did have a pretty solid session a few nights
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: ago where the kids were in bed. House is a
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: bit quiet as Laura and I went to baby went
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: through our phone and started looking at photos and videos
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: when the kids were a lot younger.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: A trip down memory that.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I love that, and it's it's wild how much in
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: our memories Marley has been like a little toddler her
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: whole life in a sense, whereas Lola, who's up my youngest,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: she's been a.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Baby for like a whole life.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Because you've got that constant comparison of size language.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: And it's funny when you look at like Marley and
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Oscar are a week apart, so that's the same, it's
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: the exact same thing, not that long ago.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: And now I look at Oscar and I'm like, you're
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: a child, yeah, and yet do you look back at
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: that you're like that chubby were you?
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: But also you're a baby yeah, and yeah, you don't
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: look at them until you do that, you only you
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: don't look at them that way for sure.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: When I was at a friend's house recently. They have
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: a six month old, and I was watching them try
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: and feed their their child and fitting a six month old.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Obviously they're they're very bad eaters with solids, you know,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: it's just a lot of like smushing food over themselves.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: It was great content, like great content, but also I
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, that highchair is going to need a
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: wipe down.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: And I had a fabric as well on the sea.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: It was like just a mess.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: I like you to say that that's going to be
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: wiped down whilst a cat with kitty litter attachments it
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: walks across your dining table during a podcast, But that
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: to me.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, that's one of the hardest and most
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: frustrating parts of the task of with the child is
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: having to try and feed them at the end of
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: the day.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: It takes so long. It calls such a mess.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: That's the part I dislike, Yeah, parenting, are there any
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: moments or tasks that you're like, I just I don't
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: want to go to list.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: How long have you guys got How much reporting can
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: you do in a day? There's a lot, But like
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: with the disclaimer that you know, so grateful, absolutely love it.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: But yes, there's challenges, like that's just naturally part of it.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Like even last night, I cooked Margot dinner I was
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: expecting around the course.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Did you cook?
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: It was carrots, broccoli, mashed potato, and a little mini chop,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: little cupre you go, a little bit of effort spread
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: that's that's a decent meal.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: It was a frozen meal and she didn't want to
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: eat it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: She just wanted to eat a piece of broccoli raw
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: that she'd been holding since she was at the shops.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: And it became it became a meltdown. It was a meltdown,
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: and it's like she would not let go of the broccoli.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: She didn't want to cook broccoli, he didn't want the
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: mashed potato that had parmesan and.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Butter in it. Do you still have it?
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: And yeah, it's really frustrating because and I have to
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: keep reminding myself of this. It's like you can't put
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: adult logic on a one slash two year old and
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: you have to keep reminding yourself. And it's hard to
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: remind yourself of that sometimes because it's like you know
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: that it's dinner time, you know the routine, and she's
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: just I think starting to have those little power struggles
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: the stands, you can have independent thoughts, which of course
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: you need.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: And so it's just like, all right, we're gonna have
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: to play. What do we need to do?
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: So everyone's got their different methods. For us, we do Okay,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: it's to drive through. So it's like she does a
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: lap of you know, the kitchen island and it tears you.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Drive through carrot, drive through broccoli, yep, yep, we just
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: got to drive through brocly is available if she comes around, Oh,
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: drive through Brocoli yep, what's that mashed potato coming up
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: next to it?
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: And it actually works, but it won't work in two
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: weeks and we know that got the sweet sound enjoying
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: that whilet and it's good.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: I do love even though in the moment it's tough
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: and it's like your stress and you're tired, and you're like,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: I just want to get her in the bath because
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: I know that means I'm near the finish line.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of that, but I do love
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: that there's little puzzles, there's little challenges, and it's like,
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: I'm a creative person. I do like the creativity of
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: like how do I get onto her level to make
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: this fun or at least bearable? How do I do
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: that even to get the result that your hope? She
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: knows what result I want and she's probably going to
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: try to resist that. But it's like, is there a
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: way to like navigate? Yeah, yes, guilty with you? That's
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: I guess that's a version of parenting in a nutshell,
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: isn't it, But just on different levels and different ages.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: How often do you put half man, half cat on
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: TV for your kids?
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: It's part of the morning routine, half man, half catten.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: For those that aren't familiar, I don't think there'd be many.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: We'll put in a little.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: I just got.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Cat.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I will get rawties for that. Thank you. I recorded
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: its Welcome. I wrote a song, recorded a song with
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the Wiggles, who are amazing.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: I've been very lucky to spend time with them at
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: hps O Potato Studios for those that don't know, and
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: recorded a song.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I got to perform it on stage with them, which
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: was amazing, genuinely like a life.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: It's almost annoying though that Margaret wasn't a little bit
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: older to appreciate the enormity of a situation.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: I've got an open invite with Anthony the Blue Wiggle,
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: so he said, you know, I can come it again
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: another time.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: What I can do.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: We've had Anthony on the pot and he was really great, awesome,
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: He's such a legend. But I've showed it to her
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: once and she was so disinterested, much like the book,
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: which I'm actually here to promote today.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the mentioned guys, hang on this podcast. I've
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: grown a beard in the time we've been sitting him there.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: That was my that was my next, my next point.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: So she got time for.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: She was not very interested in it. But I feel
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: like it's more you know, you're three to five year
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: old demographics.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: How are your kids five and five and three. I'll
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: put that on the list for the kids.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Actually, I will try Marley and Low Big Wiggles fans.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: I will film it and get their reactions and you.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Don't tell them. It's like whether guy, just say new
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: song from the Wiggles.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'll do two. I'm picking them up this afternoon.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited for this.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: We've got a brand new time, so we'll put it
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: on that and they can be their honest opinion.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Brilliant, brilliant. You are here to promote your second book.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: We're all sitting at this table published authors, so few engratulations.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, I'm still pinch myself every day.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: The book is we're not sure when this episode will drop.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: We'll say it's available now. It is called Suddenly One. Yeah,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: what's harder writing an autobiography style book or a kid's book. Well,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: it's interesting because because Accidental weather Man great book, absolutely
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: crack of a read.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: It's also a kid's book.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: It's a primary school levelokab I don't know, but it's
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: this Suddenly One sits in a strange territory because the publisher,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Penguin will sometimes refer to it as a kid's book
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: or a children's book or a picture book. It's probably
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: more picture book in the sense that it's not really
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: for kids to read at like as they turned one two.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: It's not really that. It's more like when they get
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Older, showing them what you did with them, what they
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: went through, the experiences you went through when they were
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: a baby.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Because you know, they're all ego manix.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: They all want to hear about themselves and they want
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: to see photos of themselves more and more and more.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: So that's what it's about. But the thing I love
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: about it is I never intended for it to be
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: a book. It was literally just Margo was about to
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: turn one. I was on a flight to Perth or
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: something like that, and I literally on a paper bag
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: just scribbled down some thoughts on I was looking through
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: photos and hearing my thoughts on my first year as
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: a parent and Margo's first year on Earth. And by
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: the time I got to Perth, which is a very
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: long flight, I kind of thought, oh, this is this
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: could be a poem, this could be a piece. So
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: I fine tuned it over the next week or so
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: and then recorded the audio of me saying it matched
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: up a lot of the video to you know, to
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: bring it to life, and posted it, thinking, this is
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: a great little snapshot. You know, we can look back
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: on this. I love that Margo will see that in
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: ten years time. That's pretty cool. And it went like
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: much bigger than I expected, had over millions of views,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: literally was in a day or so.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Other parents in the same situation would have looked at
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: they go we did all that too, And that's the
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: thing that gets people.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Got it tickles them right, yeah, where it's like, oh,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I thought we just did that. It shared experience. Ye
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: were picked up by the outlets or a missus in
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the States today were likest on this.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it hasn't made it there, I like good news,
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: where are you now? And yeah, Penguin said, do you
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: want to turn this into a picture book? So then
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: I had an amazing opportunity to find the right illustrator,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: which I'm sure you guys had that, which is really cool,
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: to bring them to life visually and here it is now.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: It's and what I love about it is Number one
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: for parents, even if your if your children are older,
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: it's kind of takes you back and like, oh yeah,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: I remember our first solos. I remember so Mileson's you
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: can discuss and you can have that chat with your
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: little ones. But number two, I love the idea of
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: grandparents like gifting it to their kids, you know, like
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: you say, their their grandchild's about to turn one. So
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: I love that that concept as well of like bringing
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: families together and sharing those experiences.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: When you talk about milestones in the first twelve months,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: is there one that sticks out for you as being
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: one of your favorites.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Oh when she said dada for the first time, which
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: was three weeks and four days before she said Mum,
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: that was I don't know.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Did you guys feel the same, Yeah, I don't think.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I can't remember hearing dad for the first time when
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: it's not like mumbling, when it's an intentional when it's real.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I'd love to get a
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: professional opinion on this. I feel like dadda is maybe easier.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: For why would you have to ruin it? Because I was,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: are you here to bring me down? It seems like
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: it Dad is easier.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I was the same in that, but I was I
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: was very premature, Like Marley would just go we know,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: she's like father, I can't say anything in this episode,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: sorry to anyway, I was beating my child.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Your favorite one was a disappointment. The second one. What
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I was trying to say is forget about it. You
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: really would say sorry.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: She would just go like and I'm like yeah, and
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I'd feel man. Laura was like, that is nohing near.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I think everyone goes through that.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: But then there is definitely one where it's distinctive and
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: it's with intent. But another thing apparently, which probably supports
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: your argument is often the little one will hear the
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: word data more than mama because because they're feeding so much,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: or like Dad's going to be home soon, Dad is
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: going to do this. And you know when your fiance
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: or your wife, your partner starts to use like that
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: language to get you to do jobs, like oh, I
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: think dad is going to empty the bins. Yeah, oh
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: I think Dad is going to Yeah, so they hear
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: the word more so. It's probably the repetition is Daddy's bottom.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Dad is the way on a workshoot?
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, again, it's actually quite ingenious what you've done
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: as well, because you set this up as a series
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Suddenly Too, Suddenly three.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Suddenly twenty one, Lord of the Rings trilogy but on steroids.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah no, it's I have actually written something for Marco's
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: second but it's not called Suddenly.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Too, and it's it's different Finally too for me and
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: for Margo.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'll share it, but yeah, I don't know
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: if it would be like an annual thing, but who knows?
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Every year is different, right, there's a.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Love it and will I have to ask the question,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure you've answered this number of times. Will
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: there be a third, or you're happy to be surrounded
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: by women.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: I would love a third. Genuinely, that's coming from someone
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: who's in the thick of it. Yeah, it's not really
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: my decision though.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Fuck he's got a three week old and he's like.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: I was like that at the hospital, Like for me,
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: popped out of the hospital like this was actually a twin.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: If you get a free one. Yeah, we had a
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: really good say weep, we had a really good birth.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: What did I do? I took a photo at the
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: end of it, and course he just recorded the world
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: from Beck had a really good berth.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: The second time round, Margo's was much more challenging and
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: a longer, tougher experience, and I feel like that is
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: a real positive. So I was definitely in the mindset
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: of like, how amazing would it be to go again?
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: But look, we'll work it out if we're lucky enough
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: to You can't take these things for granted. There's no guarantees.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: What about you have you shut up? Keep practicing? Yeah, yeah,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: keep no.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm on the fence. I'm okay, I don't know,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I mean, it changes, I always ask.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I feel like on the fences A yes, yeah, I
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: mean someone did say to me. They said, I mentioned
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I think I'm done, and they said, well, if you
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: think you're done, get the snip. And then the thought
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: that finality of I'm trying to digest me having a snip.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do it, which was an indication that maybe
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not done, but we'll lucky.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Doctor.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Well, someone had said to me, if you're thinking about it,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: if you're arming and ring about it, don't think about
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: the third as another ba, maybe another child.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Think about it will be a name. And by that
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: it's a simple way to put it.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: But like if you had the chest, have another maple,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: another market, because then you know them, you know the
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: bond that you have with them, you.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Know what they mean to you.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: You had two kids with the same Yeah, I mean,
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: but I think that's a nice way to look at
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: because as soon as you meet them, hold them, get
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: to bond with it, I think it will change.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I was so dumb.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like that's just me, and like that's I'm
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: very honest about I've been very honest about that, Like
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I was, like and even April like, Noah, well, I
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: think even.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: You did it. I don't know.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: If you recall, Sam, you did a video where you
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: were like, parenting means that you lose a social life,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: it makes you broke.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Do you remember this video something along those lines.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: You did finish it and say, but it's absolutely wonderful,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: which it is.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: There's magic in every day, genuinely, and it's to try
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: to convince other people. I truly believe that there is
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: something every single day and sometimes it's literally a ten
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: second moment and it makes up for all the shit moments.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I really feel that. And you know you're
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: you're going to be tied with two, so what I'll
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: be tied with three. That's how I see I'm not
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: trying to change convinced, but that's how I see it.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: And everyone has their own path, everyone has their own threshold.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: And like I said at the start, I'm not the
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: person who has to birth carry the baby, so it's
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: really more bex.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Call than mine. But if we have the opportunity, I
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: would absolutely love I love that.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: And when you are a much older man, let's let's
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: imagine you being you still look like this, a grandfather,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit of foundation under the eyes, looking great,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: and Margot and Mabel are grown up. They have left
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: the nest, they're no longer living with you. Is there
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: anything that you would like them to remember about the
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: house that they grew up in.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's a really interesting question. I'd like them to
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: remember that it was full of books. This is not
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: a plug for my it's not genuinely.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: I'm a big reader.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: I love I love the whole landscape of children's literature.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: I find fascinating and even entertainment. Bluie Wiggles pepper pick.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: I find it so interesting what resonates with kids of
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: what doesn't Dad's.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Quest free time? Yes, of course exactly.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: There's no more honest audience than a child, and I
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: find something really pure and interesting about that. So I
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: just want them to remember, Oh, my god, like Dad
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: used to read that book, or Mum dressed up as
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: that character. So I want to remember, Yeah, the stories
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: and the books and those moments. We've taken back to
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: those moments too.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: When you have that thing of nostalgia, it's like, oh,
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Dad used to read me that book.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: You still remember books that you read as a kid, right,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: It's amazing how you can forget about it for twenty
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: years and then you walk past Dimmicks and Telegraph. Yeah, there,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I walk past the Daily Teller. I remember hit getting
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: hit with that mate. Thank you for your time, pleasure.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Your fiance is probably wondering why you're not at home
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: right now with the children, so we will release you.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, you guys, congratulations on the book and the podcast
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: and getting the snip. I feel like it's kind of
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: ironic that, like we're having this three dads having this
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: conversation about how to be better parents while.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I don't podcasting is more important than me raising you. Sorry, no,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I did the double drop off this morning, so I
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: tick the box to that in the basement after this
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: with a cat. Thank you very much, Thank you Sam.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: We now know what the weather is like. If you
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: have to ask him.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: If you enjoyed that episode, please jump on, leave us
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: a review or suggest any other guest parent parent whoever
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: that we can have grandparent.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Have we had any other grandparents other than very interesting shout?
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: We have not other than your mom. Yeah, your mom,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: my mom. Let us work on that one. She's hot.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: She's a hot topic. My mom, she's hot. She's not wrong,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: she is delish anyway, It's not from us seeing.
• 59:00
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• 59:03
  Speaker 2: throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders past and present
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate Islander
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: peoples today. This episode was recorded on Gadagal Land.