Latest / Balance of Power / Weekly Washington Policy Pulse: Government Shutdown? Venezuela Deal (August 31, 2026)
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- 0:31Speaker 3: Good morning and good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the Washington
- 0:35Speaker 3: Policy Pulse. My name is Nathan Dean. I'm a senior
- 0:36Speaker 3: policy analyst with Bloomberg Intelligence. I want to say thank
- 0:39Speaker 3: you to those of you who are listening to us
- 0:40Speaker 3: via the Balance of Power podcast. We always appreciate listening.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Today is August 31st, the last day of August. It's
- 0:48Speaker 3: 10.01 a.m. The House is back. August recess is over,
- 0:52Speaker 3: at least for the House. And they have one thing
- 0:55Speaker 3: to do before they decide to try and say we're
- 0:58Speaker 3: done for the rest of at least for the for
- 1:00Speaker 3: the midterms. And that is to try and get a
- 1:02Speaker 3: continuing resolution passed. So just in terms of the House
- 1:05Speaker 3: calendar is they are scheduled to be here this week.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Then they have a 10 other 10 day recess for
- 1:11Speaker 3: Rosh Hashanah and a couple of the other holidays. But
- 1:14Speaker 3: if you ask the folks over the House Republicans, their
- 1:16Speaker 3: goal this week is to get the government resolution passed,
- 1:19Speaker 3: the continuing resolution passed today. It keeps the government funded
- 1:22Speaker 3: until December 11th. They get this done Tuesday night. Hopefully
- 1:25Speaker 3: they have a hearing on Wednesday or Thursday, and then
- 1:27Speaker 3: they wash their hands and they say, right, we're out.
- 1:29Speaker 3: And they don't come back until after the election. The
- 1:31Speaker 3: reason being is for all 435 members of the House,
- 1:35Speaker 3: every day they spend here in Washington is another day
- 1:37Speaker 3: that somebody back home is campaigning against them. And the
- 1:40Speaker 3: idea here is that there's really not much on the
- 1:42Speaker 3: legislative calendar for the House to do. Now, this continuing resolution,
- 1:46Speaker 3: it keeps the government open through December 11th. The Senate
- 1:49Speaker 3: has already passed it. It's now House's turn. House is
- 1:51Speaker 3: going to try and do this tomorrow night. They're going
- 1:53Speaker 3: to try and do this under suspension of the rules,
- 1:54Speaker 3: meaning you need a two-thirds majority. There is still a
- 1:57Speaker 3: little bit of a hiccup related to something called the
- 1:59Speaker 3: hemp loophole. If you're in the marijuana space, it's... It's
- 2:04Speaker 3: certainly a big deal. Right now, there's a delay for
- 2:07Speaker 3: this loophole. It delays it until December. I honestly think
- 2:11Speaker 3: they'll just say, great, let's fight this in December because, look,
- 2:14Speaker 3: neither party wants a shutdown before the elections. And you
- 2:17Speaker 3: certainly don't want to have a shutdown occurring when you
- 2:20Speaker 3: can kick the can into a lame duck period. So
- 2:22Speaker 3: I think all said and then and done. The House
- 2:24Speaker 3: will pass this tomorrow. And then they'll say, great, we're done.
- 2:28Speaker 2: There are a couple of.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Other things that they are looking at not doing, just
- 2:32Speaker 3: to keep in mind. There's this Russian sanctions bill. Now,
- 2:36Speaker 3: if you've attended our calls in the past, you know
- 2:38Speaker 3: that we've talked about the Senate passage of this bill.
- 2:40Speaker 3: This would give President Trump the ability to levy up
- 2:42Speaker 3: to 100% tariffs on countries that do business with Russia.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Namely India, China, Turkey. But it's not tariffs.
- 2:50Speaker 3: It's a tool for President Trump to give tariffs. Now,
- 2:53Speaker 3: this bill passed the Senate already actually had 90 votes
- 2:55Speaker 3: in the Senate, overwhelmingly bipartisan, because the idea here is
- 2:59Speaker 3: that a future Democrat president would also have the ability
- 3:01Speaker 3: to do this.
- 3:02Speaker 2: But there is some hesitation amongst.
- 3:04Speaker 3: The Democratic House side about this idea of giving President
- 3:07Speaker 3: Trump more powers. Long story short is I don't think
- 3:10Speaker 3: they're going to deal with it now. They're going to
- 3:11Speaker 3: try and figure it out in the lame duck session
- 3:13Speaker 3: and see what actually happens there. There are a couple
- 3:16Speaker 3: of House hearings this week, none of which are worthwhile,
- 3:19Speaker 3: I think, of really pointing out, except... The House Oversight
- 3:22Speaker 3: Committee is going to have a Jeffrey Epstein hearing that
- 3:24Speaker 3: involves Leon Black. It's scheduled for Thursday. I'm not sure
- 3:27Speaker 3: if Mr. Black is going to attend or not, but
- 3:29Speaker 3: you may see some headlines. But we're not covering it.
- 3:32Speaker 3: It's Epstein-related.
- 3:33Speaker 2: But since it involves Apollo Global Management's co-founder, I just
- 3:37Speaker 2: wanted to highlight it.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Something that is going to be taking place at the
- 3:41Speaker 3: staffer level this week is negotiations over the National Defense
- 3:45Speaker 3: Authorization Act. Now, I've talked about this in the past,
- 3:48Speaker 3: about the NDAA, the importance of it. Obviously, when it
- 3:51Speaker 3: comes to government funding and expenditures, it's really key for
- 3:54Speaker 3: the defense industry. Negotiations are taking place. The House has
- 3:58Speaker 3: passed a bill. The Senate has passed a bill. They're
- 3:59Speaker 3: not the same bill, but the negotiators are coming back together.
- 4:02Speaker 3: So I think what will happen here is that they'll
- 4:06Speaker 3: essentially agree on language. Now that the government funding has
- 4:09Speaker 3: been extended to December 11th, they'll come back in the
- 4:11Speaker 3: lame duck and they'll get it done. So if you're
- 4:13Speaker 3: trying to model out the NDAA from a defense spending perspective,
- 4:17Speaker 3: You know, I think you're just going to have to
- 4:19Speaker 3: see somewhere where they fall between the two, but you'll
- 4:22Speaker 3: get a deal probably after.
- 4:23Speaker 2: The election and then it'll go forward and then you'll
- 4:25Speaker 2: be good for the rest of the year.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Still no word on that provision, though, that would require
- 4:30Speaker 3: any Defense Department contractor to get permission from the DOD
- 4:35Speaker 3: in terms of buybacks or dividends.
- 4:38Speaker 2: That's in the Senate bill. It's not in the House bill.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Remember, I think I've said in the past that my
- 4:43Speaker 3: reading of that is fairly broad, and that if you're
- 4:45Speaker 3: a company like Bank of America and you have an
- 4:47Speaker 3: ATM on a branch, or if you see Dexo and
- 4:49Speaker 3: you're providing ketchup packets, you could be covered by this
- 4:52Speaker 3: as well. I know that the Senate is aware of this,
- 4:55Speaker 3: so I presume.
- 4:56Speaker 2: That they're looking at this. But again, I'll keep you
- 4:59Speaker 2: in line on that.
- 5:01Speaker 3: Just a couple of other things just to keep on
- 5:02Speaker 3: your radar. Nothing really That crazy or that material, right,
- 5:06Speaker 3: is on Friday, President Trump signed an executive order opening
- 5:10Speaker 3: up and allowing farmers and ranchers to do their own
- 5:12Speaker 3: food processing. Now, our analyst, Jen Partashas, is looking at this.
- 5:17Speaker 3: The feedback from the cattle industry was actually not that positive.
- 5:21Speaker 3: The National Cattlemen and Beefs Association said, spoke out against
- 5:24Speaker 3: this and essentially said, look, if you want to lower
- 5:25Speaker 3: beef prices, don't allow foreign folks to come in. Don't
- 5:29Speaker 3: allow this food processing, but allow people to grow their herds.
- 5:33Speaker 3: This is very impactful to Tysons if you were to
- 5:35Speaker 3: see structurally changes over the long run. But this is
- 5:38Speaker 3: the problem is because, look, it's great to say you
- 5:41Speaker 3: can do your own food processing, but there are certain standards.
- 5:44Speaker 2: There's health standards. You need to have a plant.
- 5:46Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's not like you can just go
- 5:48Speaker 3: out there and say, look, I'm going to dramatically change
- 5:50Speaker 3: the price of beef. by saying that a rancher that
- 5:55Speaker 3: has his own farm but no facility is going to
- 5:58Speaker 3: be able to say, OK, I'm going to change it.
- 6:00Speaker 3: So it's symbolically, I think it's something that they keep
- 6:03Speaker 3: in mind. But long story short is that it would
- 6:05Speaker 3: take a long lead time for that to have any
- 6:08Speaker 3: actual impact. And the same thing can be said about
- 6:10Speaker 3: the Venezuela deal. So let's talk about the Venezuela deal
- 6:13Speaker 3: for a minute. So Friday night, President Trump announced that
- 6:17Speaker 3: there was a deal in place for the United States
- 6:19Speaker 3: to take an ownership stake in certain Venezuelan oil refineries. Now,
- 6:24Speaker 3: we actually had a couple of emails about this over
- 6:26Speaker 3: the weekend. Vince Piazza, our energy analyst, and Justin Teresi,
- 6:30Speaker 3: our policy analyst. put out a note actually yesterday morning.
- 6:33Speaker 3: And the crux to that note is essentially is there
- 6:36Speaker 3: are going to be litigation challenges to this. Still early,
- 6:39Speaker 3: too early to tell what the impact of those litigation
- 6:42Speaker 3: challenges are going to be because of we haven't seen
- 6:44Speaker 3: the actual details yet. But also from a political standpoint,
- 6:49Speaker 3: it's going to be very difficult for these companies to say, OK,
- 6:54Speaker 3: the United States now has ownership of or part ownership
- 6:57Speaker 3: of these fields. But that only essentially goes through January 20th, 2029,
- 7:02Speaker 3: because the next Democrat, the next president, I was going
- 7:05Speaker 3: to say the next Democrat president, but I don't want
- 7:07Speaker 3: to presume it's just Democrat. Let's just say it's a Democrat. Well,
- 7:09Speaker 3: it's Democrat comes in in 2029 and says, look. I
- 7:12Speaker 3: don't want to actually have that type of exposure to Venezuela.
- 7:15Speaker 3: Maybe the Venezuela situation has changed. And for these oil
- 7:19Speaker 3: companies that have had nationalization.
- 7:23Speaker 2: In the past, it's going to be a very tough sell.
- 7:25Speaker 3: Now, Vince's note essentially said that if you're Chevron and
- 7:28Speaker 3: you already have exposure to Venezuela, you're going to go
- 7:30Speaker 3: in on this. If you're ConocoPhillips or if you're ExxonMobil,
- 7:33Speaker 3: you're going to be a little bit hesitant. Now, the
- 7:36Speaker 3: reason why I'm bringing it up is there is a
- 7:37Speaker 3: meeting tomorrow at the White House with the oil refiners,
- 7:41Speaker 3: the executives there. And you may see that the official
- 7:44Speaker 3: agenda for this meeting is domestic supply chain. But look,
- 7:48Speaker 3: I think you're going to see Venezuela coming to this.
- 7:50Speaker 3: And so from a headline perspective, just keep this in
- 7:52Speaker 3: mind that some of the executives are going to be
- 7:55Speaker 3: meeting at the White House tomorrow. You may get some
- 7:57Speaker 3: questions on this. You may see statements saying, you know,
- 8:00Speaker 3: President Trump, we support you and we are going to
- 8:02Speaker 3: conduct these analyses and so forth. But at the end
- 8:04Speaker 3: of the day, You're not going to put in billions
- 8:07Speaker 3: and billions of dollars of effort if you don't get
- 8:09Speaker 3: physical or financial security guarantees beyond January 20th, 2029. And
- 8:14Speaker 3: that's not something that President Trump can do at the moment.
- 8:16Speaker 3: You'd have to codify it through Congress. So, you know,
- 8:20Speaker 3: it's interesting, like there's been a lot of. lot more,
- 8:26Speaker 3: as we get past the midterms, and you're going to
- 8:28Speaker 3: see additional, this is one of our big themes for 2027,
- 8:31Speaker 3: is you're going to see a lot more ways of
- 8:35Speaker 3: government pressure via letters, via statements, via congressional investigations.
- 8:40Speaker 2: And it's always coming back as headline risk.
- 8:42Speaker 3: And we have this debate all the time of what
- 8:44Speaker 3: is the actual level of headline risk that comes from
- 8:47Speaker 3: something like where a Google, for example, changed Lake Ontario
- 8:53Speaker 3: to Lake America, and several members of the House of
- 8:57Speaker 3: Representatives on the Democratic side said, great, we're going to
- 8:59Speaker 3: investigate Google next year before this change.
- 9:02Speaker 2: So what is the headline risk?
- 9:03Speaker 3: Well, our view is that the headline risk comes in
- 9:06Speaker 3: the form of what does the CEO have to do
- 9:08Speaker 3: to respond? Perfect example is Wells Fargo from about eight
- 9:12Speaker 3: or nine years ago. There was actually a hearing where
- 9:14Speaker 3: the former CEO, not Charles Schwartz, but the former CEO testified.
- 9:19Speaker 3: It was a very poor hearing, very poor hearing. The
- 9:21Speaker 3: CEO was not prepared. It just went very bad. And
- 9:24Speaker 3: you did see the stock price move down 3% to 5%
- 9:27Speaker 3: as a result. And ultimately, I think, Or more like
- 9:30Speaker 3: partly led to a changing of the guard over at
- 9:32Speaker 3: Wells Fargo. So there is some truth to what these
- 9:35Speaker 3: congressional investigations.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Can take place. So anyway, I'll stop there. But that's
- 9:39Speaker 2: why we're going to just continue to see more and
- 9:41Speaker 2: more of that going forward. The G20 is meeting in Asheville.
- 9:45Speaker 3: No word if they're going to go to Wicked Wheat Brewing,
- 9:48Speaker 3: which is my favorite brewer down in the Asheville area.
- 9:51Speaker 3: But Treasury Secretary Scott Besant is going to give remarks tomorrow.
- 9:55Speaker 3: So you could see some headlines coming out of the
- 9:58Speaker 3: meetings today, but tomorrow is when the press conference with
- 10:01Speaker 3: Treasury Secretary Scott Besant will take place. I think it's
- 10:04Speaker 3: going to be around 5 p.m. Eastern, so keep that
- 10:07Speaker 3: in mind.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Finally, just In terms of the House-Senate races, we didn't
- 10:11Speaker 2: really see any changes over the weekend.
- 10:14Speaker 3: And then the last thing is my colleague, Elliot Stein,
- 10:16Speaker 3: would like you all to know that we are anticipating
- 10:20Speaker 3: Lisa Cook's firing or President Trump attempting to fire Lisa
- 10:24Speaker 3: Cook sometime in the next few weeks or days. So
- 10:26Speaker 3: just keep in mind on that headline. Elliot already has
- 10:30Speaker 3: his note out there. I can send it to you,
- 10:32Speaker 3: or please feel free to reach out to him directly.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Talking about how Lisa Cook probably has decent odds to
- 10:36Speaker 3: stave that off, but you are going to probably see
- 10:39Speaker 3: that headline come back into the news cycle sometime soon.
- 10:42Speaker 3: So with that, I'm going to say thank you very
- 10:44Speaker 3: much for attending. We always appreciate it. Next week, we
- 10:47Speaker 3: will not be having this call because it's the Labor
- 10:49Speaker 3: Day holiday here in the United States. So we'll see
- 10:51Speaker 3: you again in two weeks. Actually, I'm going to be
- 10:53Speaker 3: out of town, but I'll figure that out. I want
- 10:55Speaker 3: to say thank you very much for attending. We really
- 10:56Speaker 3: appreciate it. If we can ever be of assistance, please
- 10:58Speaker 3: don't hesitate to ask. Great.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Our thanks to Nathan Dean, Bloomberg Intelligence Senior Policy Analyst,
- 11:04Speaker 1: bringing you the latest installment of his weekly Washington Policy Pulse.
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