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Jack Wants to Dabble in Ai · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: George Washington wasn't Mexican. It's one more thing. I'm strong
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  Speaker 1: and getty, one more thing. So I have said, I've
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  Speaker 1: threatened for many times, so it probably won't get around.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get around to it about the same time I
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  Speaker 1: use my elliptical machine. But I really want to dabble
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  Speaker 1: in some of the AI stuff that all a lot
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  Speaker 1: of you have been using for a long time, the
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  Speaker 1: chat GPT and a sort of stuff. I've never done it,
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  Speaker 1: and it's the future and I don't want to like
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  Speaker 1: be left completely far behind on everything that everybody's doing.
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  Speaker 1: And I just sounds really interesting to me. That's one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons I'm probably going to upgrade to the
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  Speaker 1: iPhone sixteen when it comes out, is that it's going
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  Speaker 1: to have chat GPT right on there, and I think
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  Speaker 1: then I would actually use it. And Apple is also
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  Speaker 1: unveiling their own version of AI. I think it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of interesting that they have spent the gazillions of dollars
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  Speaker 1: to try to compete in that arena and they're going
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  Speaker 1: to release it at the same time that they allow
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  Speaker 1: chat GPT to be on the phone. Kind of a
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  Speaker 1: weird thing.
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  Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I needed to know the pix. It seems
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  Speaker 2: odd and confusing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember a time when
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  Speaker 1: somebody introduces a competitor that way or but anyway, I
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  Speaker 1: want to start looking into this sort of stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: so the new iPhone comes out in a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks and I'll probably get that and I'll let you
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  Speaker 1: know how it goes. Google. You remember when Google released
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  Speaker 1: their Gemini chatbot and it couldn't come up with white
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  Speaker 1: people of any kind. It when asked to depict the
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  Speaker 1: US Founding fathers and Catholic popes, for example, it either
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  Speaker 1: depicted women or women of color or men of color,
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  Speaker 1: but never any white males, even though all the popes
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  Speaker 1: have been white males and the Founding Fathers were all
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  Speaker 1: white males.
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  Speaker 2: Likewise, German soldiers from World War Two, which was famously
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  Speaker 2: not a very diverse bunch, right, It was kind of
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  Speaker 2: the whole deal. And it's really quite something that Google spent.
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  Speaker 2: I was this New York Times article would have the
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  Speaker 2: amount of money they've spent so far, but.
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  Speaker 1: It's a ton. I mean, they've gone in bigger than
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  Speaker 1: anybody thinking. That kind of like the way Google is.
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  Speaker 1: If you become the biggest and the best you can
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  Speaker 1: print money for a very very long time. And if
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  Speaker 1: they can become the Kleenex or Xerox, if you know
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  Speaker 1: that reference of AI, that's where all the money is.
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  Speaker 1: So they've invested a lot of money. And their first
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  Speaker 1: shot at it was give me a picture of George
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  Speaker 1: Washington and you have a brown lady. I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: the hell? It's fairly basic.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it really betrays the impurity of the input,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, how activist they are there, As The
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  Speaker 2: New York Times says, besides, that was I'm sorry. That
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  Speaker 2: was not a sin of omission. That was not a whoops,
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  Speaker 2: we messed up that. We tried very very hard to
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  Speaker 2: tip the scales and the whoops, we went too far?
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'll just read the headline from the New
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  Speaker 1: York Times article. Google says it fixed its image generator
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  Speaker 1: that failed to depict white people. The company will allow
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  Speaker 1: users of its chatbot to create images of people with
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  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence after disabling the feature six months ago. So
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  Speaker 1: what they did, after spending unimaginable amounts of money, they
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  Speaker 1: had to turn the thing off like the next day.
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  Speaker 1: Ah do's shelve that for a little while that's really
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  Speaker 1: quite extraordinary. And you'll remember Elon Musk, because we read this,
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  Speaker 1: had said there, this is such a deep problem to
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  Speaker 1: have spent all that money and you can't come up
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  Speaker 1: with a white pope or a white founding fathers. A
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  Speaker 1: sign of rots so deep you need to blow up
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  Speaker 1: the entire team. That's what Elon Musk said. Who knows
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  Speaker 1: something of what he's talking about with these things. That
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  Speaker 1: was what I said, but he said it better. Weeks
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  Speaker 1: after Gemini was launched, users notice it would not show
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  Speaker 1: white individuals. Besides sparking controversy, the revelation eroded confidence in
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  Speaker 1: Google's ability to manage artificial intelligence capabilities. I'd say it
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  Speaker 1: might be one of the most expensive mistakes in all history.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it really could be.
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  Speaker 2: I already was contemptuous of Google corporate, and that just absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: you know, energized my contempt.
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  Speaker 1: But I know some people in the world of AI
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  Speaker 1: and that Google had been sitting on the sideline while
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  Speaker 1: Open AI, Chat, GPT, Microsoft a number of others had
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  Speaker 1: come out and they had sat on the sideline with
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  Speaker 1: the idea, we're going to get it right, and then
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  Speaker 1: when we launched, we're going to land so hard and
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  Speaker 1: so big. We're going to be the Google of search engines,
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  Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. We're going to be
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  Speaker 1: the We're going to be the thing. And that was
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  Speaker 1: what happened day one.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Joe, you brought us an article not too long
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  Speaker 3: ago for one more another, one more thing we did
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  Speaker 3: where it went through all the different categories of AI
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  Speaker 3: and JEM and I was like rated last in all
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  Speaker 3: of them, not just Image Generation.
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  Speaker 2: Quite a few of them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The fact that they spent more money waited on
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  Speaker 1: the sidelines at the you know, you know, at the
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  Speaker 1: deficit of letting other people get a head start on
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  Speaker 1: them because we're gonna get it right, and then landed
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  Speaker 1: with that is just stunning.
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  Speaker 3: It brings me some weird joy it does.
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  Speaker 2: I'm chuckling gleefully.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, if you got a soft drink and the
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  Speaker 1: cocin PEPSI are out there, we gotta get it out. No,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna wait, let people enjoy their coke and PEPSI,
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  Speaker 1: wait till they wait until they enjoyed jack soda, and
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  Speaker 1: then you final land Valt having spent nine trillion dollars
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  Speaker 1: and somebody opens a bottle and there's a dead mouse
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  Speaker 1: in there. Google bubbles, you're.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna love this. Well if it was a robot, No,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna We're gonna hold back to Google robot until
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  Speaker 2: it's good and ready. Finally we're ready, they unleash it.
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  Speaker 2: It kills a bunch of school children before it bursts
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  Speaker 2: into flames. It could not have been worse. Well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the company also stumbled, says The New York Times,
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  Speaker 1: with the initial launch of its chatbot Bard, which got
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of facts wrong in its first public outing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's displayed to the media. It didn't work.
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  Speaker 1: The Bard gap was an embarrassing moment just as the
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  Speaker 1: AI boom was starting to take off. So Google's back
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  Speaker 1: out today with their Gemini thing. So I'm sure tons
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  Speaker 1: of people will be testing out, trying to make it
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  Speaker 1: be racist and sexist. Some people would call that reverse racist,
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  Speaker 1: reverse sexist, but that's dumb. But if it's not fixed,
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  Speaker 1: we'll know by the end of the day because it's
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  Speaker 1: out there now. That's one of the seriously, one of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest mistake launches in history, and in terms of
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  Speaker 1: money spent, it might be the biggest.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, because and I think we may have discussed
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  Speaker 2: this at the time when the previous go to marketing
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  Speaker 2: day backle occurred New Coke. They wasted a hell of
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  Speaker 2: a lot of time and money on that, but nobody thought,
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  Speaker 2: you know, coke is evil in general.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna drink it, right, and diet coke. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't throw that in your eyes.
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  Speaker 2: No, they just went back to the old product, which
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  Speaker 2: was the same product, and they liked it very much. Google,
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  Speaker 2: their whole thing has been impugned.
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  Speaker 1: They were exposed. That is stunning.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, yeah, it's more like the mouse in Google Bubbles,
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  Speaker 2: which I have charmingly named their new soft drink. It's
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  Speaker 2: more like the mouse of your imagining than the new Coke.
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  Speaker 2: It just shows that they have no standards, or at
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  Speaker 2: least no standards I appreciate for quality.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm like I said, I'm sure we will know
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  Speaker 1: soon because there's gonna be a lot of people out
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  Speaker 1: there testing it. Whether you're just a tech writer and
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  Speaker 1: want to see how good it is, or if you're
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  Speaker 1: a you hate Google like we do and you want
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  Speaker 1: to out it as being still so woke. They can't
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  Speaker 1: get the damn thing right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you We are in a cold war against woke,
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  Speaker 2: and everybody needs to know it. The New York Everyone
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  Speaker 2: knows it. Well, everyone needs to know it.
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  Speaker 1: The New York Times ended today's article with the company
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  Speaker 1: reminded users that even with improvements, it's technology would make errors.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, not every image Gemini creates will be perfect,
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  Speaker 1: Google says in their release, but we'll continue to listen
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  Speaker 1: to feedback from early Access Gemini Advanced users as we
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  Speaker 1: keep improving.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Again, it's not like it's a little too sweet for
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  Speaker 1: me or a little fewer bubbles. No, there's a mouse
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  Speaker 1: in the coke. It's not even close. And I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's that's where you were. George Washington's a black woman. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're not even close or heey.
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  Speaker 2: Washingtonz the father, the padre of our country. Muh muh no,
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  Speaker 2: not buying it, Google, Well, I guess that's it.