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The Rita Panahi Show | 19 June · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scars Ostrodio. This is the Reader Panalty Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panety Show. Coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight, Queensland Premier Stephen Miles blames reckless Queensland drivers
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  Speaker 2: for the state's hospital crisis. Peter Dutton announces these seven Sides,
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  Speaker 2: where the Coalition is proposing to establish nuclear reactors. The
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  Speaker 2: always insightful Ralph Scholhammer joins me to discuss Europe's swing
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  Speaker 2: to the right and why Italy's Georgia Maloney has emerged
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  Speaker 2: as the region's strongest leader.
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  Speaker 3: Mi Horowitz will be here to discuss Lefty's.
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  Speaker 2: Losing it, including the usual unhinged scare mongering about climate
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  Speaker 2: collapse from MSNBC, the.
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  Speaker 4: Lucrative politics of climate collapse, and the greed that is
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  Speaker 4: literally letting our country burn.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave. Gary,
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  Speaker 2: a top medical boss in Jeansland, has rubbish claims from
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  Speaker 2: Premier Stephen Miles that careless drivers were choking up hospitals
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  Speaker 2: and putting pressure on healthcare. Miles on Saturday claim the
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  Speaker 2: Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital was forced to cancel surgeries
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  Speaker 2: due to a surge in road related trauma cases thanks
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  Speaker 2: to careless Queensland drivers.
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  Speaker 3: That's a new one from Smiley. I've got to say that.
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  Speaker 2: But whether it's careless drivers or whether it's a respiratory issue,
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  Speaker 2: whatever the causes, surely you can't be blaming the patients.
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  Speaker 2: The fact is Labour's been in power up there for
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  Speaker 2: around the decade and if the Queensland health system is
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  Speaker 2: in trouble, it's on the Labor government.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's face it, Rita.
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  Speaker 5: Just like in Yes, Minister, the most efficient hospital in
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  Speaker 5: Queensland is the one with no patients. But look, it's
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  Speaker 5: pretty bad look from Stephen Miles, given that we've had
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  Speaker 5: some horrific, horrific acts and so on some of our
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  Speaker 5: rubbish Queensland roads, particularly in regional Queensland. In the last week,
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  Speaker 5: there's been about ten people die. Families have been ruined
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  Speaker 5: off the back of this, So for him to now
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  Speaker 5: throw that sort of stuff into the mix of it
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  Speaker 5: is just horrendous. The simple point here is there's more
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  Speaker 5: people in the Queensland Health Department in inner city buildings
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  Speaker 5: carrying clipboards and coming up with new forms, fees and
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  Speaker 5: directions and plans for inspections than there are people giving
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  Speaker 5: that patient caregiver kind of task. And so we just
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  Speaker 5: need more nurses, we need more doctors. We need to
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  Speaker 5: be deliberately hiring people to do that. We need people
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  Speaker 5: who are in the maintenance teams at our hospitals. We
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  Speaker 5: don't need as many bureaucrats as we've currently gotten. This
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  Speaker 5: bloke's a former health minister, and our health departments are choking,
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  Speaker 5: just like they are all around Australia. And people vote
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  Speaker 5: Labor because I actually think they're good on things like
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  Speaker 5: public health. There mob a completely rubbish because what they
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  Speaker 5: do is they hire a whole battalion of bureaucrats and
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  Speaker 5: then the left over money trickles down to where the
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  Speaker 5: patient needs the help. That's your problem. That is the problem,
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  Speaker 5: full stop. And he is just kidding himself. And I
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  Speaker 5: think it's disgusting. Given the number of deaths that have
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  Speaker 5: been on Queensland roads over the last couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 5: it's disgusting he should bring such things into the mix.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the situation is pretty grim in Victoria as well.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a paramedic crisis down here and parents of
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  Speaker 2: a four year old child who wasn't breathing were forced
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  Speaker 2: to drive themselves drive this child to a hospital after
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  Speaker 2: being told the nearest ambulance was fifty kilometers away. This
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  Speaker 2: wasn't Gary in some regional, far flung area. It happened
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  Speaker 2: in metropolitan Melbourne in the early hours of Monday morning.
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  Speaker 3: When they called.
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  Speaker 2: A fleet, availability across the entire ambulance network in Melbourne
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  Speaker 2: had dropped to just one percent, prompting a code. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just this a nightmare for a parent to have a
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  Speaker 2: child who is not breathing and you call an ambulance
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  Speaker 2: in a first world country and they're not going to
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  Speaker 2: be there.
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  Speaker 3: They're not going to be there because they're fifty kilometers away.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to get there in time, and you've
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  Speaker 2: got to take that child into hospital yourself.
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  Speaker 3: It's just not good enough. Given the amount of money.
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  Speaker 2: We have devoted to this sector, there is so much mismanagement.
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  Speaker 3: Gary.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and thousands of healthcare professionals have been purged
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  Speaker 5: out of our state health systems as a result of
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  Speaker 5: the overreach during the COVID crisis, the crisis that we
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  Speaker 5: now know more manufactured by government than in reality. Thousands
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  Speaker 5: of people put purged out of the system, and people
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  Speaker 5: don't trust the system anymore. Look, and it's bad enough
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  Speaker 5: that I couldn't imagine the dreadful stress of a parent
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  Speaker 5: worried about a child. But for those of us who've
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  Speaker 5: got elderly family members, parents and so forth, I can
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  Speaker 5: attest to a fifteen hour wait to get an ambulance
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  Speaker 5: in the middle of suburban brisb and not so long ago,
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  Speaker 5: fifteen hours, fifteen hours reader, and they just kept bringing saying, oh,
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  Speaker 5: was he okay? Is he's still alive? It's like this
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  Speaker 5: just is not the way it should work. The basics
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  Speaker 5: are not being done, but the bureaucracy is being built.
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  Speaker 5: The burgeoning bureaucracy is what's soaking up all of the
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  Speaker 5: tax dollars that are going into things like health.
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  Speaker 2: And we've got down here in Victoria paramedics graduating and
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  Speaker 2: not finding jobs locally, having to go elsewhere to get
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  Speaker 2: jobs ridiculous. And then we've got ridiculous because we've got
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  Speaker 2: the cfm AU getting a twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Percent pay deal increasy.
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  Speaker 2: You've got people holding up stop signs earning two hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand plus, and yet the paramedics who earn a fraction
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  Speaker 2: of that aren't even getting the jobs.
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  Speaker 3: It is madness. It needs to change.
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  Speaker 2: But when you don't have a competent opposition, the people
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  Speaker 2: really don't have much of a choice. Now, the Coalition
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  Speaker 2: federally is planning to build a two nuclear power plan
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  Speaker 2: in regional Queensland. Tot Apedadutton announced the locations for all
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  Speaker 2: seven sites where the Coalition is proposing to establish nuclear
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  Speaker 2: reactors and he attacked Anthony Alberize's lack of vision and
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  Speaker 2: the absurdity of the renewable only policy.
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  Speaker 6: The Prime Minister has no vision for our country because
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  Speaker 6: he can't manage the government day to day. We've done
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  Speaker 6: an enormous amount of work. I want to pay tribute
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  Speaker 6: to Ted O'Brien. We've looked at the international experience. We've
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  Speaker 6: looked at why Australians are paying the highest electricity prices
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  Speaker 6: in the world. We've looked at the expert advice from
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  Speaker 6: the regulator who's now telling us that under Labour's renewables
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  Speaker 6: only policy there is a greater likelihood of blackouts and brownouts.
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  Speaker 6: We know that the government has a renewables only policy
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  Speaker 6: which is just not fit for purpose. No other country
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  Speaker 6: in the world can keep the lights on twenty four
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  Speaker 6: to seven with the renewables only policy.
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  Speaker 2: But Gary, despite the majority of Australians now supporting nuclear
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  Speaker 2: policies inspired this scam mongering we're seeing because there is
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  Speaker 2: so much scam mongering from the media and all those.
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  Speaker 3: Sure rent seekers.
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  Speaker 2: The Queensland opposition leader is still insisting he's not going
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  Speaker 2: to support repealing these states nuclear bad.
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  Speaker 3: How is he determined to snatch.
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  Speaker 2: Defeat from the jaws of victory.
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  Speaker 3: What is happening up there?
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  Speaker 1: Well, times shall tell.
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  Speaker 5: And of course in a couple of weeks time there's
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  Speaker 5: a state conference of the Liberal National Party, so I
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  Speaker 5: guess there'll be a few comments about all of that.
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  Speaker 5: But look, in the end, Peter Duarton is showing the
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  Speaker 5: sort of leadership Australia desperately needs.
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  Speaker 1: Peter Dutton's putting forward a plan that says we.
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  Speaker 5: Don't need twenty eight thousand kilometers of duplication when it
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  Speaker 5: comes to all those high energy towers that.
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  Speaker 1: Dot across the countryside.
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  Speaker 5: Peter Duarton is saying that instead of taking up hundreds
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  Speaker 5: of thousands of hectares of land to put solar panels
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  Speaker 5: on top of good agricultural land, all we need is
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  Speaker 5: a couple of acres of land to build a nuclear
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  Speaker 5: power station next to an exist in culfide power station.
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  Speaker 5: He's also putting, in the words of David little Proud,
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  Speaker 5: the biggest single investment into the South burn at the
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  Speaker 5: area around king Arroy. That's more than just peanuts, king Roy.
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  Speaker 5: Let me tell you, the biggest single investment ever announced
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  Speaker 5: into the south Burnet has been announced as part of
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  Speaker 5: this whole plan. So this is about Some people don't
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  Speaker 5: understand it. They'll catch up to it, but it's about cheap,
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  Speaker 5: reliable base load power that's going to grow jobs. But
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  Speaker 5: I think the most telling part about what Dutton did
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  Speaker 5: today is he's not so much worried about his policy
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  Speaker 5: for the next election. He's thinking about the next generation
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  Speaker 5: and the generation after that and the one after that.
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  Speaker 5: He's talking eighty to one hundred years of certainty when
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  Speaker 5: it comes to our power prices and our reliability of
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  Speaker 5: our electricity. And frankly, given everything that's happening in the world,
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  Speaker 5: this is a national security task and it's not unreasonable
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  Speaker 5: that provincial leaders people in states take a little while
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  Speaker 5: to understand the broader world. Dutton's showing them the way.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure they'll be on board. Don't you worry about.
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  Speaker 2: That you are being very generous and gentle with the
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  Speaker 2: Queensland opposition leader. I think it's absolutely disgraceful and weak
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  Speaker 2: for him not to just be on the same page
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  Speaker 2: as the federal Party and have a clear understanding of
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  Speaker 2: where this country is headed. And it's not any better
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  Speaker 2: down here in Victoria because the opposition leader here, John Pursuto,
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  Speaker 2: also weak, directionless and really isn't clear on where he
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  Speaker 2: stands in this area. Now tell you, Gary, I am
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  Speaker 2: liking the sound of Quantus under this new regime We've
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  Speaker 2: had the incoming chairman, John Mullen say corporates should not
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  Speaker 2: get involved in political agendas. The current chair Goydas, backed
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  Speaker 2: Alan Joyce's political activism all the way and talking about
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  Speaker 2: the form of CEO. Alan Joyce he may not receive
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  Speaker 2: his sixteen million dollar bonus, as the airline brings in
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  Speaker 2: a high profile consultancy chief to help decide whether a
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  Speaker 2: series of blunders mean this big bonus will be void.
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  Speaker 2: If it is granted, it means that Alan Joyce would
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  Speaker 2: have earned one hundred and seventy million dollars from Quantas
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  Speaker 2: over fifteen years. This could be a new Quantus that
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  Speaker 2: we are we see emerging.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I am a unabas big fan of Quotas. I
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  Speaker 5: want Quotas to be the success it's been for one
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  Speaker 5: hundred years, safe airline, safest airline in the world and
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  Speaker 5: its actually the second oldest continuous airline in the world,
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  Speaker 5: and for good reason. And Alan Joyce has gone. Now, look,
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  Speaker 5: the short, medium, long term incentives that are built in
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  Speaker 5: the corporate Australia means that if you perform well, you'll
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  Speaker 5: get something after you've gone. Let's just see what this
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  Speaker 5: management consultant comes up with. But I think there's plenty
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  Speaker 5: of grief that Joyce has rightly got to be put
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  Speaker 5: through because frankly, as someone who buys a ticket on
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  Speaker 5: an aeroplane, I want to make sure that not much
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  Speaker 5: of my money is going to pay for bonuses to
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  Speaker 5: a bloke who actually caused more grief for a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people, a lot of people who lost jobs, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people who were dismayed by the fact that
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  Speaker 5: ghost flights existed. All these things they're all on the table,
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  Speaker 5: and rightly so, so well done to mister Mullins. This
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  Speaker 5: is a new quantus and I hope it's an even
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  Speaker 5: better quantus because it's reputation solid, and if the reputation
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  Speaker 5: has been in the slightest bit damaged or tarnish, now's
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  Speaker 5: their opportunity to say so and deal with it Rita.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll watch with interest.
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  Speaker 3: And as someone who flies Quantus regularly, I would like
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  Speaker 3: to stop.
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  Speaker 2: Being welcomed to my own country and have all these
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  Speaker 2: exactly acknowledgment of country announcements that they.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't sign up for. That Just get me there
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  Speaker 3: on time, give me a snack, and we're all happy.
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  Speaker 2: Take on now, absolutely, let's talk about this Robert Irwin
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  Speaker 2: Pauline hansoon clash. Neither one is backing down after the
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  Speaker 2: TV star threatened legal action after being featured in the
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  Speaker 2: latest satirical cartoon series Please Explain, produced by the One
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  Speaker 2: Nation team.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have a look at it.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, no blue racial division.
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  Speaker 8: But don't worry about that, because we've got some of
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  Speaker 8: the funnest theme parks right here in the state of
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  Speaker 8: Queen's Land.
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  Speaker 7: Check this here, Oh, this must be the line for
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  Speaker 7: Warner Brothers movie. Will Now, this is a rental inspection
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  Speaker 7: for a one veteran Rockhampton More mistake Blue, Wait you
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  Speaker 7: see the great barrier reef all this beautiful, pristine rainforest
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  Speaker 7: here in Columbon.
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  Speaker 9: You know, some people think they're yeshores.
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  Speaker 7: But I think they're pretty cool. I Blue, Oh, crok,
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  Speaker 7: Look over there, that's a castle. Wearies and a wedge
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  Speaker 7: told Eagle, Hey, don't worry about that habitat being destroyed. Blue,
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  Speaker 7: We've got so much more to see here in the
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  Speaker 7: state of Queen's Land.
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  Speaker 1: Let's jump in the land cruiser.
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  Speaker 7: Or no blueing juvenile delinquents s they've knocked off the
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  Speaker 7: land cruiser.
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  Speaker 10: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Robert Owen's lawyer says the cartoon defames Robert with unauthorized
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  Speaker 2: and deceptive use of his image. It's a political satire.
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  Speaker 2: It's a cartoon and it's pretty funny if you ask me.
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  Speaker 2: Pauline Hansen says Robert should lighten up and have a
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  Speaker 2: good laugh. And now there's this video that has emerged.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't too long ago when Robert was saying pretty
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  Speaker 2: much the same thing as Pauline saying.
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  Speaker 11: It's being able to laugh at yourself as well, it's
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  Speaker 11: being able to go. You know, that's the fluff, that's
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  Speaker 11: the opinionated stuff. People will always have their point of view.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks to Peter Ford for unearthing that interview from twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two, Gary, how.
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  Speaker 3: Do you see this dispute? Give us your verdict in
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  Speaker 3: twenty seconds?
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  Speaker 5: I laugh at myself often Robert Owen should do that.
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  Speaker 5: Is only a young bloke, and I guess that now
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  Speaker 5: that he's been fronting the Queensland government out, I guess
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  Speaker 5: he's got to be good to his corporate sponsors.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is a storm and a teacup.
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  Speaker 5: But boy, about five million people have watched the clip
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  Speaker 5: because of his anger about it.
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  Speaker 3: Well done, Robert, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: That's the striisand effect in full force. Gary Hardgrave, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for your time this evening. Joining me now is
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  Speaker 2: academic and author Ralph Scholhammer, also columnist at the Brussels Signal. Ralph,
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  Speaker 2: the president of France's National Rally Party, which is soaring
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  Speaker 2: in the polls, has slammed the comments of star soccer
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  Speaker 2: player Killian Buppe, who has urged voters not to back
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  Speaker 2: what he calls far right parties in the snap parliamentary
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  Speaker 2: elections called by Emmanuel mccron. He is one of more
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  Speaker 2: than two hundred French athletes and celebrities who have signed
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  Speaker 2: an open letter telling voters to reject the far right.
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Bardella has said, I'm a little embarrassed to say
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  Speaker 2: these athletes give lessons to people you can no longer
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  Speaker 2: make ends made, who no longer feel safe, who do
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  Speaker 2: not have the chance to live in the neighborhoods overprotected
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  Speaker 2: by security agents. What do you make of this intervention
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  Speaker 2: by a soccer superstar and all those other celebrities. Will
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  Speaker 2: it have any sort of an impact on the French public?
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  Speaker 12: Well, you put me in a very uncomfortable position here
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  Speaker 12: because the Austrian team lost against the Pace team just
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  Speaker 12: a couple of hours ago.
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  Speaker 9: So who Clearly I am.
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  Speaker 12: Biased against the French soccer players, regardless of what they say.
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  Speaker 9: No, but I think you're absolutely right in analysis.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, I take it like the Romans, Like the
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  Speaker 12: Romans didn't care about the political views of their actors
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  Speaker 12: and decladiators, and basically celebrities and athletes are modern day
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  Speaker 12: actress and gladiators, and we shouldn't care too much about
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  Speaker 12: what they say. The national rally at the European Parliamentary elections,
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  Speaker 12: they want ninety three of a ninety three percent of
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  Speaker 12: all the electoral district in France, and that tells you
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  Speaker 12: where the French public stands, with the exception of Paris.
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  Speaker 12: Basically they are the ruling the land already. When it
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  Speaker 12: comes to two poles as well, we'll see if they
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  Speaker 12: can pull the same thing off on June third and
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  Speaker 12: July seventh with de parliamentary elections.
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  Speaker 9: But it doesn't matter to people anymore. Most people are
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  Speaker 9: annoyed by this.
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  Speaker 12: I think people can distinguish between I like soccer and
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  Speaker 12: I like to make ends made, and these things very
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  Speaker 12: often do not overlap.
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  Speaker 9: We see it, by the way, also in the United States,
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  Speaker 9: people still like Hollywood actors.
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  Speaker 12: But when Joe Biden mingles with these celebrities and gets
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  Speaker 12: the endorsement of Julia Roberts, George Clooney, and Robert de Niro,
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  Speaker 12: nobody sits at home and says, oh my god. Robert
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  Speaker 12: de Niro says, I have to vote for Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 12: I immediately change all my opinions. This is an illusion
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  Speaker 12: that many politicians have because they are very often caught
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  Speaker 12: in their own kind of you know, celebrity obsession that
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  Speaker 12: most people don't have.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 2: We saw it right here in Australia with the Voice referendum,
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  Speaker 2: where we had the awarding stars, the celebrities, all the
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  Speaker 2: big corporates, all of them backing the Yes side, and
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  Speaker 2: it was trunced quite comprehensively in the national vote. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the leader of France's national rally party, Marine Lipen, is
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  Speaker 2: being credited as the force behind the once fringe party
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  Speaker 2: now standing on the brink of power after they made
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  Speaker 2: enormous gains in the EU elections. President Emmanuel Macron was
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  Speaker 2: spooked into calling a snap election. Was that a massive
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  Speaker 2: miscalculation on his part?
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  Speaker 3: Ralph?
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  Speaker 12: Yes, I think so, And if you look at Macross's
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  Speaker 12: career so far, I think he has calculated quite a bit.
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  Speaker 9: Over the last seven years that he's been in office.
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  Speaker 12: There's this weird idea that are headlines in the Economist
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  Speaker 12: at the Financial time. So this is a four D
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  Speaker 12: chess move by Macron and another brilliant strategy by MacRath.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, I just want to remind everyone Macross started
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  Speaker 12: as a popular politician and is now a very unpopular politician.
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  Speaker 12: So I don't really get where all he's supposed a
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  Speaker 12: brilliant moves are coming from. This is again a delusion
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  Speaker 12: that the media continues to tell us. It's a little
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  Speaker 12: bit like with Joe Biden when they say sure, sure,
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  Speaker 12: he seems frail and out of it in public, but
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  Speaker 12: behind closed doors he's like sharp and super smart.
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  Speaker 9: No, but Crow is exactly how you see him.
• 18:16
  Speaker 12: He's a again, he's not, let's put it this way,
• 18:19
  Speaker 12: he knows how to present himself like Visually he's very appealing,
• 18:22
  Speaker 12: but as a politician, I would say he's kind of moved.
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: From one blunder to the next.
• 18:26
  Speaker 12: None of his reform projects, from the pension to the
• 18:29
  Speaker 12: Ukraine policy, he was capable of taking the French people
• 18:32
  Speaker 12: with him and that's one.
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: Of the most important things.
• 18:35
  Speaker 12: And Lepen for her part, like Milonia, I have to admit,
• 18:38
  Speaker 12: the face of the European right, or the competent European right,
• 18:41
  Speaker 12: seems to be female. I'm deeply impressed both with the
• 18:44
  Speaker 12: way in which he changed the National rally, which once
• 18:47
  Speaker 12: was upon arsenal of her father, who was in many
• 18:51
  Speaker 12: ways in the U Nazi.
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: I think that's not an exaggeration.
• 18:54
  Speaker 12: She really made it, on the one hand, a respectable party,
• 18:58
  Speaker 12: but I think she's still stuck to the issues that
• 19:00
  Speaker 12: are important for the people and that make it the
• 19:02
  Speaker 12: right wing party, Like on immigration, and we see the
• 19:04
  Speaker 12: same in Italy with Maloney. I mean, just as a reminder, right,
• 19:07
  Speaker 12: remember when Maloney was ported into office. She's a fascist
• 19:11
  Speaker 12: and she will lead Italy over a cliff. And you
• 19:14
  Speaker 12: know what's going to happen that the cast catastrophe is
• 19:16
  Speaker 12: upon us. And now remember just a couple of weeks ago,
• 19:19
  Speaker 12: a few days actually ago, the G seven meeting, I mean,
• 19:22
  Speaker 12: the G seven meeting basically was like an episode out
• 19:25
  Speaker 12: of The Walking Dead, with one exception, which was Georgia
• 19:28
  Speaker 12: Maloney McCraw on on his last legs right, justin Trudeau,
• 19:32
  Speaker 12: but with Joe Biden, manam. It's not just metaphorically, it's
• 19:35
  Speaker 12: almost literally the Walking Dead. And pretty much every politician,
• 19:39
  Speaker 12: with the exception of Maloney, is deeply unpopular in their
• 19:41
  Speaker 12: own country except her.
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: Of all the European politicians that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 12: Actually won during the European elections, Maloney was the only
• 19:49
  Speaker 12: incumbent who could gain votes and was not an opposition party.
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: She's doing a great job.
• 19:53
  Speaker 12: I know she's often criticized from the right that she's
• 19:56
  Speaker 12: not moving fast enough and far enough, but I think
• 19:58
  Speaker 12: she's playing a long game.
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: Just lupendit.
• 20:00
  Speaker 12: I think they are doing something that's very rude, and
• 20:02
  Speaker 12: I wish them all the best.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And you were one hundred percent right about the way
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the media misrepresented her when she first came to power.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: She was called a fascist, far right.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: A danger to democracy, so much hyperbole around her election,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and she has emerged, as you've explained, one of the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: strongest and most popular leaders now. And I was also
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: interested in how she greeted the different world leaders. She's
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: not shy about expressing how she feels about them, whether
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: she likes them, like if it's the Argentinian leader, Harve Milay,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: she's obviously a fan the Indian leader. And then when
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: she was seeing some of the politicians she wasn't fond of,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: she could not hide her disdain.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Clearly Maloney is not.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: An enormous fan of Brazil there as you can see.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: And I think she saved her greatest sustain for Emmanuel mccron.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: She has had ongoing issues with him, but she's going
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: to have the.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Final laugh, Ralph, because mccron is in all sorts of
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: trouble as many leaders she greeted during the j seven,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: but she's likely to be there for some time, I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: hope so.
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: And one is to say, right, this is Italy.
• 21:25
  Speaker 12: Italy has been a notoriously difficult country to govern, and
• 21:28
  Speaker 12: they never or barely ever had a government making it
• 21:32
  Speaker 12: through the entire legislative period without having it it crumble
• 21:35
  Speaker 12: or collapse. And she's doing a fantastic job. Right She's
• 21:38
  Speaker 12: in a coalition government. So this is always what I
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: tell the critics of her is do you think she's
• 21:42
  Speaker 12: kind of She's not like the American president like she
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: has to keep a coalition together and to govern. So
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: this is very difficult unless you correctly pointed out. She
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: distinguishes I think very well on the global stage which
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: world leaders are pro Western and which leaders are not,
• 21:56
  Speaker 12: which is why she gets along well with me Lee,
• 21:58
  Speaker 12: and which is why she's critical Lula for example.
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: And the absurdity that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: We have in Western politics, right, well, we admire somebody
• 22:05
  Speaker 12: like Lula who is absolutely ampty Western in his outlook,
• 22:09
  Speaker 12: but we criticize somebody like Milae who wants to be
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: a pro Western politician.
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: It's completely absurd.
• 22:15
  Speaker 12: So this kind of self hates that we see in
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: Western societies as well, for example with the pro Palestine demonstrations,
• 22:21
  Speaker 12: also has infected higher politics.
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: That is a major issue, and I think she understands it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: I think that Lepen understands it in a way that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 12: Macau or Suna simply do not grasp what's going on there.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Now, going back to France, there was a march against
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the far right, as a left call it. It took
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: place in Paris over the way Ken, but it seemed
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: to be more like a march against France, against the
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Western civilization. There wasn't too many French flags, I can say, there,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: but plenty of Palestinian flags, kafirs and science calling for
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Intafada ralph this was like a commercial for the national rally.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I think they'd be quite happy to see this sort
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: of footage going around the world.
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: And I think that ultimately this could also help her
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: because there is a growing impression also. I believe in
• 23:15
  Speaker 12: the United States and I think also partially in Australia
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: that the left tends to be for everything that's not
• 23:21
  Speaker 12: the West.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: It doesn't matter what the idea is.
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: And I think you see this if you take a
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: close loot right it's green policies are anti civilizational policies.
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: You see the pro Palestinian.
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: Stance and anti Israel stands is basically an anti West
• 23:33
  Speaker 12: and anti civilizational stance, and you see this in all
• 23:36
  Speaker 12: these areas.
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: And I think that gradually people are waking up to this.
• 23:39
  Speaker 12: Originally they really thought that the left is concerned with
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: the cause right, the environment, the plight of the Palestinians,
• 23:45
  Speaker 12: you know, the plight of migrants.
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: But the closer look, these are just projections.
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: What they're really interested is is to always take the
• 23:52
  Speaker 12: position that whatever is against the West is the site
• 23:55
  Speaker 12: they are with. And the argument, of course, as many
• 23:57
  Speaker 12: have explained on your explained on your show, that the
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: essence of vokeness right, it's always the oppressor versus the oppressed,
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: and there is not a single scenario in which the
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: West is not the oppressor. So whoever is on the
• 24:08
  Speaker 12: other side, even if it's Hamas right, they.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: Must be the good guys.
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: And I mean, first of all, I think it's wrong,
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: and I'm glad to see that more and more people
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: wake up to this. And I just fear, there's all
• 24:17
  Speaker 12: of the biggest fear that once again the media will
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: accomplish two blackmail people not voting into parties that take
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: a pro Western stance. This is the only fear I
• 24:26
  Speaker 12: have because as you correctly pointed out, originally right, and
• 24:30
  Speaker 12: they're already jumping in this hyper gear. Also in the
• 24:32
  Speaker 12: United States, also in Australia. It's the far right, it's
• 24:35
  Speaker 12: the radical right, it's the extreme right. But if you
• 24:38
  Speaker 12: look at their positions, their positions are the same positions
• 24:42
  Speaker 12: that are common sense person you know is having today
• 24:45
  Speaker 12: or would have had.
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: Thirty years ago.
• 24:47
  Speaker 12: I mean, the basically sounds like the goal Faraj pretty
• 24:51
  Speaker 12: much sounds like like in the well he talks differently about.
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: His positions are basically Churchill's positions. So none of this
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: is completely out of the extranory.
• 24:59
  Speaker 12: But we have moved the cultural and academic institutions so
• 25:03
  Speaker 12: far to the left that everything for them seems to
• 25:06
  Speaker 12: be the far right, and the media, unfortunately is part
• 25:08
  Speaker 12: of that of the viewpoint. So they think that everybody
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: who's just slightly right off the Greens must be a
• 25:14
  Speaker 12: radical right winger, and it's very, very difficult to fight
• 25:16
  Speaker 12: against this.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: You're right, it's the media. It's a big part of
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the problem. And also that institutional power that has been
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: corrupted by the left, and it started in academia, but
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: it's gone much dafer than that. Ralph Sholhanna, thank you
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: so much for your time this.
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: Evening, thanks for having me.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: And coming up.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Next, Letty's Losing It and Jerry Snfel's latest show.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Interrupted by protesters yet again. What did he say to them?
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I'll have that next.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. Now it's time for lefties losing it. And
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: he wasn't just President Joe Barden embarrassing himself at a
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: big LA fundraiser with the Hollywood elite. The talent on
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the night also tainted their good names, including funny man
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Jack Black, who seems to have lost his mojo. Get
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: ready to cringe, folks.
• 26:17
  Speaker 13: But my president needs me, thank you. And then they
• 26:25
  Speaker 13: hit me with the big one. They said, Jack, you
• 26:27
  Speaker 13: can't go. You have nothing to wear.
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: Your good suit is in the cleaners.
• 26:33
  Speaker 13: Well were they wrong? Because I had this to wear,
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: my kick ass American flag overalls, most patriotic outfit of
• 26:41
  Speaker 13: all times. Not shut him up. There wasn't much they
• 26:47
  Speaker 13: could say after that. And when the president wins in November,
• 26:55
  Speaker 13: I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a sweet shout
• 26:57
  Speaker 13: out in his victory speech for what I gave up
• 26:59
  Speaker 13: to be here, Because when democracy is at stake, Jack
• 27:04
  Speaker 13: Black answers the.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Call, I know, I know.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed for him too, and I want to make
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: it clear that was the best he had that night.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: That was the highlight of his routine.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: That was the bit that Jack Black himself promoted on
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: social media.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Goodness may now some breaking news from Joy read considered
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: by many the looniest of lefties at MSNBC, and that
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: is no small fate.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Here is Joy discovering.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: That summer is actually hot. Next you'll tell me water
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: is wet.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Of climate collapse and the greed that is literally letting
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: our country burn. Today, millions of Americans from Iowa to
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Maine are suffering through heat warnings, watches, or advisories. Cities
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: across half of the country, like Chicago, Saint Louis and Indianapolis, Detroit, Philly,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: and now New York are hitting temperatures exceeding ninety degrees fahrenheit,
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: though it feels closer to one hundred. Many of these
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: cities could experience heat indexes hitting one hundred and five
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: degrees by Sunday. These increasingly oppressive hot days aren't a coincidence.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: They aren't They are the predictable impact of a climate crisis.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: And they're not just an inconvenience, they're also killing us.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: It's literally summer tomorrow in America ninety degrees fahrenheit. That's
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: thirty two degrees celsius for everywhere else in the world.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: That's delightful weather. I don't know how that's deadly or
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: an inconvenience.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Get a grip.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Joy From one unhinged joy to another, let's hear from
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the views. Joy Beja talking with MSNBC's Rachel Maddow at
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: they both share this fever dream about Trump coming to
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: get them.
• 28:50
  Speaker 14: So you said recently that you thought that you, as
• 28:53
  Speaker 14: an outspoken critic, could be a target yourself. Some people
• 28:56
  Speaker 14: think that sounds over dramatic, but I'm right there with you.
• 28:59
  Speaker 14: I think that he is so vindictive that he will
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: go after however he has to do the irs maybe
• 29:06
  Speaker 14: or even I mean through sponsors, to get us off
• 29:09
  Speaker 14: the air. Maybe you are you how seriously should we
• 29:13
  Speaker 14: be taking that?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Look?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: If Trump can promise that, if elected, he will remove
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Rachel Matter and Joey Beha from the airwaves, then he.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: May justus win every state.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Now, let's have a good laugh with this card dealer
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: from Louisiana who has saved his business via social media.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: How well he mocks fame seeking social media, influences online
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: and manages to sell cars. Let's have a look at
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: how Doug Townsend does it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 12: I really don't.
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: It's gotten into me recently. Not nutrition.
• 29:46
  Speaker 15: Hey we got a twenty four Willies just came in Comala.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Real so nice wing.
• 29:56
  Speaker 12: In on.
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: Bro grinder is rocket these days?
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Look you on the nine anyway?
• 30:03
  Speaker 15: Hey we got a twenty five ram fifteen hundred sst
• 30:09
  Speaker 15: can't get it?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to know who I date, who I
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: go with?
• 30:13
  Speaker 15: Nope, but I think you think you're black. Hey we
• 30:16
  Speaker 15: got a twenty five sst Ram truck. Come holla.
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: I want to sub me too.
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: I want to suck me too.
• 30:28
  Speaker 15: My baby Mama's Grandma's got a fast than you.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You should take that thing and just.
• 30:32
  Speaker 15: Go park it somewhere else. Hey, we got a twenty
• 30:35
  Speaker 15: four deep Gladiator.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Now, while don't Trump speaks about the senseless murder of
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a mother of five by an illegal immigrant, what is
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the Biden administration borders? Ur Kamala Harris up to.
• 30:57
  Speaker 16: Talk?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, the Vice President is busy welcoming the cast of
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Queeri to the White House. Meanwhile, the border crisis continues,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: got illegal immigrants committing unspeakable crimes. We've got more than
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: two million a year crossing the southern border illegally. Joining
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: me now is a journalist and filmmaker, Army Horoiz.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Army.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: We're not just talking about isolated cases here. I know
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: there's some cases that receive a great deal of media coverage,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: But in twenty twenty three alone, there were seventy three
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: thousand non citizens arrested for crimes. Now, of course, not
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: all of them are illegal immigrants, but when you've had
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: more than seven million cross illegally during Biden's term, you'd
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: expect the borders are to be a little bit more
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: focused on her job. But this is something that she
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: was charged with some time ago. I don't even know
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: how many times she's been down to that southern border.
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: Look there, Bikeen is so bad at this.
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: I mean again, this is the number one issue in
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: the country, one or two based on polling, and they
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: are completely failing on this. Look, this whole idea that
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: they're trying to shift the blame to Republicans is total insanity.
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: His dog won't hunt.
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: Yes, for three years, they did nothing and then in
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: the fourth year and they realize they're down the polls.
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: All of a sudden, he found the ability to do
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: the executive order. All of a sudden, he said, heyts
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: negotiate dealer Republicans. Nobody believes that.
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: Now. Of course, if it was jet look the thing
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: that's crazy.
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: He's like, I don't need to care about the border,
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: but just for self preservation. Look this whole think about
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: the the the people across the border. Ten people from
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: Tajikistan who were trying to commit terrorist attacks. Three of
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: them came through ports of entry. And they said, but hey,
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: but they were vetted. You mean you were lying on
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: records from tie Jikie's stand. That's how this thing works.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: That's how you're saying, we're going to vet these people
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: coming through. I mean, it is unbelievable. Could you imagine
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: what would happen if they actually committed a terrorist attack?
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: This election would be over just based on that. I know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: it doesn't care about the border, the protection of Americans.
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: Based on that, dude, you got to stop these guys
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: from coming in.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's not a priority. Quite clearly. I want
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: to ask you about Hollywood.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: And its reaction to the ongoing Israeli Hamas war. Actor
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: John Cusack is the latest Hollywood star to pedal October
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: seven conspiracy theories. I don't know what else we can
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: call this is is tweeting and retweeting all sorts of
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: anti Israeli nonsense, including this from an activist who says
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Israel killed many, if not most, of its own people
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: on October seven.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: What do you say to that army?
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: This is a particularly sad story for me, Riader, because
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: John Cusack was a fixture of my childhood and it's
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: sad to see how this guy has degraded himself, not
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: just on Israel, but he's a crazy leftist across the board.
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: Now look, yeah, because I did show prep for you
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: mita right, So I actually went on the Internet and
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: looked up John Cuzzack for the News, and the number
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: one article by John Cusack was out. He didn't get
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: what he wanted in the movie High Fidelity. The problem is,
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: first of all, exemplifies a couple of problems. One is
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: a problem with the left when it comes to Israel. Right,
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: he's a man in the left. He said he won't
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: talk to anybody in his family who are supports of Trump,
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: and this is what you get on the hard left,
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: this anti Israel and frankly and Semitic conspiracy theories. But
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: the bigger problem is that they're not covering this. This
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: is not being covered by the mainstream media or pretty
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: much anybody else. That's the major issue. This guy has
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: a record, It's not one thing. This is a guy
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: who has reposted the Hamas is created by Israel, that
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: there were no rapes that happened on October seventh. This
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: is the guy who's posted it was committing genocide. He
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: reposted somebody tweeting how Ziona should all be killed. This
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: guy is a crazy person that's not covered, but it
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: was covered today with the fact tried to describe why
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: he didn't rejoin Hot Tub time Machine number two.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Well, this is the way in Hollywood, amongst the celebrity class,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: sporting stars, everybody, if they say something that's even slightly
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: right of center, even if it's very much a mainstream opinion,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: like what JK. Rowling has said on trans issues, that
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: are absolutely.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Slandered by the media.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: There's one hundred news articles and columns about how terrible
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: they are.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: But you can say any far left French.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Dwelling comment and the media just look the other way.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: It really is.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because many of them agree with those
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: points of view, but that is an issue, and I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: think that's why a lot of celebrities, Yeah, a lot
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: of celebrities who don't feel that way just keep their
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: mouths shut. Now we've got a big celebrity in Australia
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: right now, Jerry Seinfeld is playing his shows across the country.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: I've played footage.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Earlier in the week of the way he mocked an
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: anti Israeli protester who disrupted a Sydney show, and it
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: happened again. Pro Palestinian protesters again disrupted the Jewish Comics
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: another show in Sydney, and again Jerry mocked them. But
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: this time I've got to say he was a little
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: bit more gentle.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Let's have a look.
• 36:39
  Speaker 9: You're getting them on your side, can you hear it?
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: Good?
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: Yes, there's the police. You have.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Feelings that you don't know where to stay them.
• 36:59
  Speaker 9: Think that ruining the night? It doesn't affect me. All
• 37:03
  Speaker 9: these people, you're ruining their nineties.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ami, why do you think that targeting Jerry Seinfeld?
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I wonder what that could be.
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: Hm.
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: Let me try and figure this out. I don't know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: because he's Jewish? Could that be it?
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: He's a Jew?
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: Actually I like the fact that Zeienfeld doesn't let this go.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: He actually does go ahead and roast the protesters. You know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: the protester was chanting from the river to the sea,
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: and you know, he commented, Hey, you just solved the
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: Middle Eastern problem, and I think I liked he Also
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: he was able to curate his roasting based on the
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: fact that you guys in Australia, and he said, why
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: don't you guys figure out your aboriginal problem first before
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: you try to attack Israel.
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: No, I love that he went on the attack.
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: But I think the funniest part of the whole thing
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: but the protester waited until the show was just about
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: done before he disrupted it, so we could watch Jerry
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: Seinfeld before he was thrown out.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Well, the cost of the tickets are not small, hundreds
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: of dollars per ticket, so I guess if you're going
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: to buy a ticket just to protest, you want to
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: watch the show. But yeah, that was the one earlier
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: in the week. But this has happened again last night's show,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: and again this time he roasted them, but I think
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: it was a little bit more gentle than the first time.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: But the crowds certainly gave it to the protesters. They
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: got roundly booed and escorted out very quickly by police.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Now I want to ask you about Wikipedia before you go.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that Wikipedia
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: is not an unbiased platform. It often is not reliable
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: or objective source of information, and that is also the
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: case when it comes to Israel. Investigative journalist Aaron Bandler
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: has written a piece about the seven tactics Wikipedia editors
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: have used to spread anti Israel biased since October seven,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: including adding anti imperialism into her master's list of ideologies
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and removing anti Semitism. There's anti zionism they're but not
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: anti Semitism. But this is a worry army because for
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of people they trust Wikipedia.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: It's seen as a.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Unbiased source of information, but often there is a lot
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: of activism at work there.
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's deliberate obviously, the anti imperialism and removing
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: any semitism. The antiperalism is because they're trying to actually
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: lionize Hamas the left I mean this is this is.
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: Wikipedia is also relied on hamas one numbers for Hami
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: civilians were kilter obviously debunked that we and we all
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: knew that they were not their own lives. They they
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: didn't include October seventh as a list of major Islamic
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: terrorist attacks, even though it was one of the largest
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: Limic terrorist attacks. No, the Wikipedia problem reader is actually
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: one of the biggest problems we have in our country.
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: I know that sounds crazy, but you have to understand.
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: Wikipedia is the first thing people go to, including myself,
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: knowing that it's biased to get information on something. If
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: you're looking up almost anything, It's on the top of
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: the Google search list. Look, it is a found of
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: all informations, the modern day library of Alexandria. And it
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: is incredibly biased to the left. And we know, you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: I like to make things all about me and to
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: give you example of that, look when they list Michael Moore,
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: they list him as an American filmmaker, they list me,
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: They listen to me as right wing filmmaker.
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: I'm not even a I'm not a right wing person.
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: I'm a very moderate person.
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: I can go on nods about righting Wikipedia on my paage.
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: So yeah, it's it is a significant problem that we
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: have with information in our country and I don't know
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: how it gets fixed.
• 40:50
  Speaker 10: I don't think it does.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Why I would I argue you Google is a bigger
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: problem than Wikipedia because Google has got a virtual monopoly.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: It's how people find that information, whether they wanting to
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: find a business or get an explanation on something or
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: learn how to do something.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: You google it.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: It's a verb, and Google itself has got biases in
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: its algorithms. Horowitz, always a pleasure, Thanks for your time
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: this evening coming up next? Is this the final chapter
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: for Lea Thomas. Stephanie Bastian joins me next, Welcome back.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is research fellow for the Women's Forum Australia,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Stephanie Bastian.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Stephanie.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Let's start In Tasmania, the Health Minister there, Gay Barnett,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: is urging the federal government to hold a national review
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: into public medical services for children with gender dysphoria after
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: the UK's cast review found the science behind the services
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: was severely lacking. He said a national review would allow
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: consideration of all available evidence from across the country to
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: ensure these services are best practice evidence based and that patience,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: safety and well being is paramount. Now, what are the
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: chances that we will see a national review?
• 42:21
  Speaker 16: Good evening, reader, and thank you for having me on tonight.
• 42:23
  Speaker 16: I think at the moment it's very slim. Mark Butler,
• 42:26
  Speaker 16: our Health Minister, seems to have his head in the sand.
• 42:30
  Speaker 16: But I commend the Liberal Health Minister in Tasmania for
• 42:33
  Speaker 16: coming out. They're the first party of government at a
• 42:35
  Speaker 16: state level to acknowledge the findings of the CAST review,
• 42:38
  Speaker 16: following on from Opposition leader Libby met him in Western Australia.
• 42:43
  Speaker 16: The Coalition in Tasmania have conversion therapy laws on their
• 42:49
  Speaker 16: table that include gender identity. Obviously, we know that gender
• 42:53
  Speaker 16: identity is synonymous with gender dysphoria shouldn't be included in
• 42:57
  Speaker 16: any form of conversion therapy laws. So I actually think
• 43:00
  Speaker 16: it's probably in the Tasmanian government's best interest to try
• 43:03
  Speaker 16: and hold a state inquiry before they passed those laws. Now,
• 43:06
  Speaker 16: I recognize that they are in a minority government they
• 43:09
  Speaker 16: may need to work with the cross bench on this one. However,
• 43:12
  Speaker 16: I think it is really important that they do so
• 43:15
  Speaker 16: before moving forward.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Now, staying in Tasmania, Hobart City Council has apologized to
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Counselor Louise Elliot after she lodged a complaint with the
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Anti Discrimination Commissioner, alleging she was blocked from booking the
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: town Hall for a women's rights and free speech forum
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: back in September twenty twenty three. She claimed her request
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: was leaked to an activist group by the Lord Mayor.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: The activists then led the City of Hobart's staff to
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: believe the event was anti trans and that prompted them
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: to block the booking. The Australian reveals several senior staff
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: have now left the council since that scandal.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Loise Elliot says she is pleased.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: The discrimination complaint has been resolved, adding the depth of
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: the lying, scheming, gas lighting, privacy breaches and frustration of
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: legal avenues and processes has been astounding and she has
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: got email exchanges and all sorts of information that shows
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: how this entire affair was conducted.
• 44:21
  Speaker 16: Yes, well, congratulations to Luise Elliott. She's taken a strong
• 44:25
  Speaker 16: stance and she has paved the way for other women
• 44:28
  Speaker 16: to challenge the way that they're being treated on council.
• 44:32
  Speaker 16: I mean, what an absolute disgrace by the Hobart City Council.
• 44:35
  Speaker 16: They were found to have discriminated against her, they were lying,
• 44:39
  Speaker 16: they were cohorting with outside the Tasmanian Equal Opportunity Commissioner.
• 44:47
  Speaker 16: It is absolutely outrageous and they need a full and
• 44:49
  Speaker 16: thorough investigation. But this is actually happening everywhere. That's happening
• 44:53
  Speaker 16: in councils across in Victoria where women are being pushed
• 44:57
  Speaker 16: aside by activists who think they're above the law and
• 45:00
  Speaker 16: above the regulations, particularly in labour dominated councils in the
• 45:03
  Speaker 16: western suburbs. Time and time again, these counselors and these
• 45:08
  Speaker 16: councils working with the CEO are breaking the rules, breaking
• 45:13
  Speaker 16: the law, and they need to be held accountable. We've
• 45:16
  Speaker 16: got a clear cut example. I'm sure if we had
• 45:18
  Speaker 16: widespread investigations we would see this happening everywhere. So I
• 45:22
  Speaker 16: think it's time that we review the rules and make
• 45:25
  Speaker 16: sure that they can't be exploited in this way, but
• 45:27
  Speaker 16: also investigate to put an end to it, because it
• 45:30
  Speaker 16: is just so unfair on these women, these mums who
• 45:33
  Speaker 16: are putting their hand up to try and support their
• 45:35
  Speaker 16: local community.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: And I do worry about how many women, how many
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: counselors who feel this way not speaking up because they've
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: seen the treatment that others have copped. And Louise has
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: been very brave and she's courageously fought this battle. But
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of people would be cowed into silence, but
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: she won't be.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: She's a tough one.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about transgender swimmer Lea Thomas, biological male
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: identifying as female. He's lost his legal battle against the
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: World Aquatics for a spot in elite female swimming competitions
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: he was hoping to compete at the Paris Olympics later
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: this year. The twenty five year old is still barred
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: from swimming in elite female races, as the Court of
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Arbitration for Sport held up the ban on anyone who
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: has undergone any part of male puberty from competing. Is
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: this the end of this issue, Stephanie, as far as
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: swimming is concerned and is going to have any impact
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: on other sporting codes.
• 46:42
  Speaker 16: I don't think it's quite the end of the road. Yet,
• 46:44
  Speaker 16: he got his case thrown out because he wasn't a
• 46:47
  Speaker 16: member of Swimming USA, so technically someone could join there
• 46:53
  Speaker 16: and then launch another challenge. However, World Aquatics. We're willing
• 46:56
  Speaker 16: to defend it based on the fact that they put
• 46:58
  Speaker 16: their guidelines together on the best expert medical and scientific
• 47:02
  Speaker 16: advice available. So I think the court still would have
• 47:06
  Speaker 16: made a finding against him. It still can be challenged, however,
• 47:10
  Speaker 16: I think also I support the call for him to
• 47:13
  Speaker 16: hand back his medals because this has been outrageous against
• 47:17
  Speaker 16: all the other female athletes. It is unfair that when
• 47:19
  Speaker 16: you have males competing and taking their spots, the whole
• 47:23
  Speaker 16: thing's a sham. So even if there are other challenges,
• 47:26
  Speaker 16: I think they'll be shot down fairly quickly.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Now, a transgender teen athlete is complaining to local newspapers
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: that he was hurt that female runners that he beat
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: because he is a male identifying as a female at
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: a state track and field championship in Washington. While these
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: girls were apparently not forthcoming with congratulations, they weren't being
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: sufficiently supportive. Veronica Garcia told these Spokesman review I guess
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: maybe I expected sports ship because I was cheering the
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: rest of them on when they were called, so I
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: guess I expected it to get reciprocated, but I didn't
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: get that.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Now, let's look at the winning time. Here.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Veronica's winning time of fifty five point seventy five seconds
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: in the women's four hundred meter was a full second
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: quicker than the second place skeetter. But had this athlete
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: been competing against the males, as I argue he should
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: have been, he wouldn't even managed sixteenth place. I mean,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: that is how big the gap is, even at that
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: level for young athletes.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Stephanie, it is.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: That's why it is so grossly unfair, because we're talking
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: about places in a state team's national teams, Olympic spots,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: but also at a lower level, scholarships and all sorts
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: of other accolades that come with being great at sport.
• 49:00
  Speaker 16: This this is emotional manipulation. Reader. Can you imagine how those
• 49:03
  Speaker 16: female competitors are feeling as they watch him claim their titles.
• 49:06
  Speaker 16: I'm sorry, it is not good enough. Don't come into
• 49:09
  Speaker 16: women's sports and then be surprised when they're sitting there
• 49:12
  Speaker 16: looking at you taking their titles.
• 49:14
  Speaker 12: It's just not good enough.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Stephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your time
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: this evening. That's it from me. Up next is Newsnight.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow