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NFL Week 17 Christmas Day Slate | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's gone clear. We lift up What's Up number one.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberlin here aka Totag and Tambo.
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  Speaker 2: Back for a special edition, the Mary Shipments Edition, the
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  Speaker 2: December twenty fourth slate. We're gonna have the sorry Christmas
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  Speaker 2: Day slate December twenty fourth. Today you're gonna break it
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  Speaker 2: all down the three Gamer. We've got the Cowboys at
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  Speaker 2: the commanders, we've got the Lions at the vikings, and
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  Speaker 2: we've got the Broncos at the chiefs. We'll name the
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks when we get to the position, but probably not
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  Speaker 2: a good thing to name them now. It's not the
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  Speaker 2: best when it comes to that. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: money to be made. But Mary ship mess Happy holidays
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  Speaker 2: to everyone out there. Have title with us as always,
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  Speaker 2: got Hoopster here with me and Hoopster I'm gonna bring
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  Speaker 2: you in first man.
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  Speaker 1: Money to be.
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  Speaker 2: Made on this slate, but it's a holiday slate that
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  Speaker 2: probably some will forget.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we'll call it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you can see what the NFL is kind of
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  Speaker 3: thinking with this Christmas Day schedule. You know, Cowboys commanders.
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  Speaker 3: Figured the Cowboys would kind of be in the mixed commanders,
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  Speaker 3: you know, made a run last year in the playoffs, Lions,
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  Speaker 3: Vikings what they had the two best records in the
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  Speaker 3: NFC last year, and then Denver up and coming team
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  Speaker 3: against the Chiefs, who are always in the mix. And
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  Speaker 3: what you end up with is Dallas eliminated Washington, one
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  Speaker 3: of the worst teams in the NFL this year, Lions
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  Speaker 3: massively underperforming, essentially out of playoff contention, Vikings didn't get
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  Speaker 3: what they thought they had in JJ McCarthy, not a
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  Speaker 3: very good team, Broncos dominating, I mean, playing very well.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the one team they got right. And then
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  Speaker 3: the Chiefs, you know, first bad season in I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what decade and they have a team total of
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  Speaker 3: like twelve for the Christmas Days late. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's one of those things. They didn't get what they
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  Speaker 3: thought they were gonna get, and you know they're probably
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  Speaker 3: gonna pay the price a little bit, I'm assuming in
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  Speaker 3: the ratings because these are just three really not exciting
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  Speaker 3: football games. But like you said, fordfs purposes big money
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  Speaker 3: to be made.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, millionaire maker over run DraftKings.
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  Speaker 2: There you get a bunch of money up top in
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  Speaker 2: that they've got some of the bigger high stakes ones,
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  Speaker 2: the higher dollars, smaller buy in like three five maxes,
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  Speaker 2: single entries and stuff title bring you in man, the
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  Speaker 2: day before Christmas?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on, my friend? How you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Best time of the year, very blessed over here.
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  Speaker 4: Hope everybody is going to enjoy their day, Christmas Eve,
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  Speaker 4: Christmas Day, and hey, if you don't have any plans tomorrow,
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  Speaker 4: you got basketball and football all day long from morning
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  Speaker 4: to night. Plenty of big prizes. Probably the worst three
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  Speaker 4: games late in terms of just name value and stuff
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  Speaker 4: like we're talking, but doesn't mean the prizes aren't there,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of money to be made. Late swap.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's one of the biggest edges of the
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  Speaker 4: year because yeah, people have life going on, people have family.
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  Speaker 4: If you're gonna play, though, I think you should go
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  Speaker 4: all in and the fact of settle arms be around
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  Speaker 4: for late swap and do it right if you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: do it. If not, it's all right to just play
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  Speaker 4: one team and not have to worry about that as
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  Speaker 4: much as well. So Yeah, Marry Christmas, Happy Honeka, whatever
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  Speaker 4: you celebrates. I hope everybody has a great day, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Sir, Yeah, we got a lot going on here, So
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna get to it pretty quickly. We'll do position
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  Speaker 2: by position before we do.
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  Speaker 1: Want to just note a couple quick things. One Ship
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  Speaker 1: of Games rounding out.
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  Speaker 2: So this is the round one of the playoffs of
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  Speaker 2: our our Ship of Games that we put on the
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  Speaker 2: first ever over at Ship and Nation. Hope those that
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  Speaker 2: were involved enjoyed it. It was a great way. We
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  Speaker 2: had a lot of people come over from different communities,
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  Speaker 2: different sites and join us for this, which is always
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  Speaker 2: a fun time.
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  Speaker 1: And you want to jump ship and join Ship Nation,
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  Speaker 1: you can definitely do so. Now's the time. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of big news coming. We're gonna save it
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  Speaker 1: for the new year with.
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  Speaker 2: PGA DFS, but it's gonna be very exciting when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to that. I know that already Hoop and I
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  Speaker 2: have been working on a ton of stuff behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of the team all informed and ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: So we got a lot coming with the new season.
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  Speaker 2: But top prize twenty thousand dollars cash year Ship a
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  Speaker 2: Nation Sabersim Ultimate membership goes to ten five twenty five
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen six to ten gets a thousand. Everybody
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  Speaker 2: that made the finalists Again, congrats to our fifty golden
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  Speaker 2: shipp It winners on the screen there that you see.
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  Speaker 2: They all get three hundred dollars and they also get
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  Speaker 2: one month ultimate credited towards their account, so all that
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  Speaker 2: will be handled at the end of the season. But
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  Speaker 2: just making note if you are one of the fifty
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  Speaker 2: finalists and you haven't seen your email yet with your
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  Speaker 2: link to get into the round one finals, you can
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  Speaker 2: make sure to cross reference with us or email info
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  Speaker 2: at ship atnation dot com.
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  Speaker 1: But hoop, it was a ton of fun running Ship
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  Speaker 1: of Games. It's not over yet.
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  Speaker 2: The top ten will move on this week of the
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  Speaker 2: fifty to play for those main prizes.
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  Speaker 1: But anything you want to add there when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to Ship of Games, Yeah, excited.
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  Speaker 3: I mean first year we ran this, I think it
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  Speaker 3: was definitely a success. Got the community excited. It was
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  Speaker 3: is fun weekend week out and you know some we're
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  Speaker 3: definitely going to look to run next year, probably improve it,
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  Speaker 3: make it a little bit better along the way. But
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  Speaker 3: a fun little addition something no one else is doing.
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  Speaker 3: And glad, glad we got it done. And and congratulations
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  Speaker 3: to all the finalists.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Titling you want to add there, And it was a fun,
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  Speaker 2: fun contest all season long. We didn't get the big
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  Speaker 2: extra with the share ship. We got the you know,
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  Speaker 2: a few ming cashes in there. Whop just destroyed in
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  Speaker 2: the head ends.
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  Speaker 1: What do you finished? Fourteen to two?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, you know again back to the main point,
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  Speaker 3: Nate's got the crew off a really rough start by
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  Speaker 3: getting his ass kicked in week one, and then it
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  Speaker 3: just kind of coasted from from there on out. So
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  Speaker 3: I was safe to company some money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were trying to give it away.
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  Speaker 2: We really at least tried, but I think there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money given away agains shut up to our
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  Speaker 2: partner with Sabersim helping us out eighty five thousand plus
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  Speaker 2: passion prizes, majority being cash by the way, It's not
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  Speaker 2: just you know, credits and things like that. There's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a ton of cash that we sent out titlingning
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  Speaker 2: you want to add there before.
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  Speaker 1: We hop in.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just gonna say, I mean, it's as
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  Speaker 4: bad as we ran, or as I mean, we didn't
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  Speaker 4: get what we wanted in the share a Ship, but
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  Speaker 4: still eighty five thousand dollars shout out to Sabersim shout
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  Speaker 4: out to us. I mean that just shows no one
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  Speaker 4: else is doing that, So that had a chance to
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  Speaker 4: be a lot more. We wanted to give people it
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  Speaker 4: chants to have a chance to win life changing money themselves.
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  Speaker 4: I mean one hundred thousand dollars a lot of weeks.
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  Speaker 4: People individually had a chance. Not a big chance, but
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  Speaker 4: if you shift it yourself, you would have had in
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  Speaker 4: your pocket. No one's doing that, So yeah, I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was a really cool idea that you guys came
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  Speaker 4: up with, and I hoping people enjoyed and people that
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  Speaker 4: are in it, Yeah, they have a fun sweat coming
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  Speaker 4: up for a lot of money and prizes.
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  Speaker 1: What's u? What's your guy here? Title? Or girl? Who
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  Speaker 1: do you got?
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  Speaker 4: Pick a name right away, zach A, I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 4: spells it right and everything? Staring me in the face.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, who you got? Who you got? Moving on this
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  Speaker 1: week and taking him into finals?
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  Speaker 3: I'm roaming through let me see, I'm gonna I thought
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  Speaker 3: about that, yeah, but maybe it like a little bit
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  Speaker 3: too obvious. How about uh Kenneth J Kenneth.
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  Speaker 1: J Kenneth J.
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  Speaker 2: I you know Tyler H is my boy. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: probably gonna go Tyler h pull pulled the title trick.
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  Speaker 2: But I will say there's just some bias here. Again,
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  Speaker 2: it's completely random. These people had to win their way
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  Speaker 2: in or like all different factors. But I think Nick
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  Speaker 2: is Nick much much more in the chat. He's in
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  Speaker 2: there every day grinding, he plays the bankroll the right way, sustainability,
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  Speaker 2: He's been there since the beginning. This guy's awesome. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Nick em I'll be cheering for you as well. So
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of fun. Should be, should
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  Speaker 2: be a good time. Let's hop into this lake, guys,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about it and hoop. I'll go to you
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  Speaker 2: first for your grand scheme overview. You hit it off
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  Speaker 2: the top the away.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterbacks pretty nice. I'm surprised you don't have your DAK
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  Speaker 1: or your golf or Lions jersey or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: But we got DAK, we got Jared Goff on the road,
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  Speaker 2: we got bow Nicks on the road. But the problem is,
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  Speaker 2: you know what they're going up against, but all road
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  Speaker 2: favorites all by almost a touchdown or more, I think, right,
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  Speaker 2: So you don't see that very often.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll kick it to you first. What's the grand
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  Speaker 1: scheme for this game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely all about the road teams,
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  Speaker 3: which is you know, kind of opposite I guess of
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  Speaker 3: what you look for. But uh, it's tough because there's
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  Speaker 3: some you know, you have three really dead teams. You have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the Broncos who are kind of you know,
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  Speaker 3: coasting in and should be win for them. Cowboys will
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  Speaker 3: always fight to the end, and then the Lions are
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  Speaker 3: technically still in it. But you know a majority of
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  Speaker 3: ownership fantasy wise, is going to come from the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 3: big team total, Lions still a big team total, and
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  Speaker 3: then Denver big team total, favored by a lot. So
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  Speaker 3: you look at you know, Washington, no one's gonna want
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  Speaker 3: to be on Washington, Minnesota, no one's gonna be on
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  Speaker 3: want to be on Minnesota. And then the Chiefs, no
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  Speaker 3: one's gonna want to I mean, the Chiefs have a
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  Speaker 3: team total between eleven and twelve, like that is a
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  Speaker 3: touchdown in the field goal. Josh Johnson at quarterback, Brozma
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  Speaker 3: at quarterback, Ola Dukin at quarterback for the Chiefs. So
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  Speaker 3: a majority of the ownership is going to go to
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  Speaker 3: those three big favorites. The three road teams and you
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  Speaker 3: know that's kind of where we're at. I mean, you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have three offenses that nobody's gonna want to play. Now,
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  Speaker 3: you know, someone on those teams is going to do
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  Speaker 3: something positive fantasy wise, so you know, and it's only
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  Speaker 3: three games slate, so you're gonna be forced to kind
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  Speaker 3: of look to on these teams. So it's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: pretty uncomfortable. I think when when you start diving in
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  Speaker 3: and looking at some of these teams, because it's ugly
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  Speaker 3: with these I guess with all three home teams, it's bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good assessment there. We did
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  Speaker 2: just get the news and we was as expected. I think,
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  Speaker 2: I know some you know, still had Mariota and stuff
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  Speaker 2: out there, but Josh Johnson expected to get the start.
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  Speaker 2: So that's for Washington, Brosemer, Oladuke and you already talked about.
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  Speaker 2: And then the three mains on the other side. I
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  Speaker 2: wonder tight I'll go to you now on this just
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  Speaker 2: sort of a follow up grand scheme overview from a
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  Speaker 2: DFS perspective.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna segue into that anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about quarterbacks is sort of how do you see
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  Speaker 2: people looking at this? Because it's you know what's easiest
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  Speaker 2: to stack, what sort of fits as far as money is,
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  Speaker 2: Like if I think it's almost like if they want Gibbs,
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  Speaker 2: maybe they don't play golf as much, for example, because
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  Speaker 2: it's just the way the slate works out right, If
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  Speaker 2: I don't really love all these running backs, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna go Gibbs for safety, But then that means I
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  Speaker 2: might not go to golf. So there's situational stuff like
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  Speaker 2: that as well. But how are you seeing the slate
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  Speaker 2: as a whole, my friend?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, people are just gonna play the three I mean
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  Speaker 4: the Cowboys, the Lions, and the Broncos and get us
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  Speaker 4: much exposure to them as possible. And I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: can't really blame him. I'm struggling like all ears when
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  Speaker 4: we go through how to get different on this late
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  Speaker 4: leaving money is always there, trying to fit in one
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  Speaker 4: low ish own piece, like twelve percent less or lower
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  Speaker 4: in your lineups. But I mean, I'm gonna be eating
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  Speaker 4: the chalk. I don't want to play many people with
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  Speaker 4: eleven twelve point total Brosmers look terrible. At least they
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  Speaker 4: have a nineteen point total in a dome playing catchups
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  Speaker 4: like I can make a case there, Johnson, He's playing
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL, So I guess outside of the Ola
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  Speaker 4: Duken guy or whatever, like I can, I'll probably be
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  Speaker 4: mixing these other guys in. But yeah, I mean DAK
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  Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy one passing prop that's a fifty
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  Speaker 4: and a half total. Next game is forty three and
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  Speaker 4: a half. The next game is thirty six and a half.
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  Speaker 4: So it's I mean, the best players are clearly the
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  Speaker 4: bo Nicks, the Dak's, the golf. I do think Goff's
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  Speaker 4: probably the lowest owned of the three. From what you said,
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  Speaker 4: just with people will be fine playing Gibbs and Hope
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  Speaker 4: it's just him Dak. I mean, Cowboys are implied for
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  Speaker 4: twenty nine. A lot of people are gonna want to
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  Speaker 4: go there, but it's gonna be very, very concentrated on
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  Speaker 4: those three teams, rightfully, so, but yeah, if you're playing
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  Speaker 4: the flagship like one hundred two thousand people, hey, I
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  Speaker 4: think this is a slate where I would be fine
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  Speaker 4: cheering with like fifteen people. Obviously everyone's fine winning a
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  Speaker 4: lot of money that way, but I struggle getting different
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  Speaker 4: compared to most three game slates that we've had, So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm curious to he are you guys taught thoughts when
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  Speaker 4: we go game by game as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to it.
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  Speaker 2: And the main thing is just like the setup of
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  Speaker 2: it all, like the you know, if you land on
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  Speaker 2: the same stuff on something else, I'm looking like at
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  Speaker 2: least trying to get.
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  Speaker 1: Ten percent of the first place prize. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: million to first. What can I put in and wear
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  Speaker 1: a lineup where I still feel like I can get
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  Speaker 1: one hundred k and if it ends up being fifty year,
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  Speaker 1: if it ends up into it like obviously, no one's complaining.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's kind of the thought process versus
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  Speaker 2: just jamming all the chalk. And we talk about this
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  Speaker 2: a ton on our showdown slate stuff where we you know,
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  Speaker 2: say like, okay, I'm gonna try and get less dup lineups,
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  Speaker 2: but here's ways to do it. But if I land
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  Speaker 2: on something that still gets twenty eight K, well then
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  Speaker 2: so be it. You're gonna take that and move on.
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  Speaker 2: Just if that's the best lineup, it's the best lineup
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  Speaker 2: on this lid. I think there's still gonna be ways
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  Speaker 2: to get different. It just a matter of you know,
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  Speaker 2: at each game and take it on some risk. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go to the quarterbacks and start there. Then you know,
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  Speaker 2: what's your sort of first thought when you go to
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback position on this.
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  Speaker 3: Late my first thought and you know, ownership and everything's
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  Speaker 3: probably still a little rock because it is only you
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  Speaker 3: know what, Wednesday morning. But for me personally, that one
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  Speaker 3: as much Dak Prescott as possible for a couple of reasons. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they are you know, I think fully eliminated from the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: They can't get in, so not much to play for.
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  Speaker 3: But one thing I've seen from the Cowboys over the
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  Speaker 3: years is it doesn't matter if they're out of contention.
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  Speaker 3: They are playing all the way to the end. And
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  Speaker 3: they kind of came out and even said that. And
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  Speaker 3: these games are are big for like Jerry Jones and
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  Speaker 3: Cowboys fans, and they know that they will have They
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  Speaker 3: would love to be able to come out and put
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  Speaker 3: up forty real life points here and it would be
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  Speaker 3: big for him and they would be excited about it.
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  Speaker 3: So for me at the quarterback position, it starts with
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  Speaker 3: Dak Prescott and for me personally, it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: as much as possible when I go through and build
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  Speaker 3: my teams, I think he's in a tier of his
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  Speaker 3: own for this Christmas Day slate after him. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: to me, it's it's pretty rough. Honestly. It's like Jared Goff,
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  Speaker 3: Yeah sure, I mean they're projected to score points, but
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  Speaker 3: Jared Goff fucking sucks at quarterback. I mean, he's just
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  Speaker 3: not very good. And it does scare This matchup does
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  Speaker 3: scare me, Like they'll bring the pressure, like he struggled
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  Speaker 3: against the Vikings. They know how to get to golf.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it is they have none to play for.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be NonStop pressure. I mean they're gonna bring
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  Speaker 3: it with golf, not to golf, NonStop. And he sucks
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  Speaker 3: and it's terrible at handling pressure. So that does scare
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  Speaker 3: me a little bit. Denver favored by two touchdowns. Like
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  Speaker 3: how much is bo Knicks gonna give it a go
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  Speaker 3: in terms of passing? So I don't know. For me,
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  Speaker 3: at the quarterback position, it's clearly Dak Tier one Golf
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  Speaker 3: and bow Knicks probably together. And then when you start
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  Speaker 3: looking at these the next tier, it's probably I guess
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  Speaker 3: Josh Johnson, and then I don't know. Brosmer has been terrible, man,
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  Speaker 3: like so bad I would put him and Ola Duke
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  Speaker 3: in uh in a tier of their own, so it
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: would be Dak in his own tier Tier one, Tier
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: two would be goff Bo Nicks, Josh Johnson I think
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: is pretty close, and then just put those other two
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: shitty guys by themselves, Brosmer and Ola Duke in yeah.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Title.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: I think the thing about the quarter that's why we
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: do we like position my position on these shorter slides
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: for everybody just because you kind of put the pieces together.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: But I mean it's really a product of who can
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: push the other quarterback, because for Dak to have the
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: big game, you gotta hope that Johnson or somebody on
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: that team does something. And so that's kind of the
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: thought process behind I think what Hoop's saying there, like
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: if you're if you're as high as you are on DAK,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: and I.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Think that's for good reason.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Most will be and like I said, for good reason,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: but if you have Josh Johnson on the other side,
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: you got to have him do kind of something to
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: keep up hopefully and maybe not like Cowboys could just
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: push down and put the pressure, but I do think
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: there's a possibility and I'll talk more about that when
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: I go to you know my stuff, but I want
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts. First title, you heard hoop at
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: the quarterback position. How does it differ, if at all,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: for you? And then what else are your thoughts there?
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the clear play gonna be the chalkiest.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: I hope we look back in a couple of Christmas
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: slates and just laugh at this one, meaning because that
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: means we'd actually get some good Christmas Day slates like
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Oli Duke and Josh Johnson and Brosmer. Half the quarterbacks
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: on this slate. It makes it difficult. With that being said,
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: if any of them are optimal, you will definitely see
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: a I mean almost a unique shipper. I would imagine
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Olid Dukin is the one I'm probably gonna just cross
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: off at least like one hundred and fifty yards is
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: his passing prop the dude, I mean, they're applied for
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: twelve and mat points. Bronco's one of the best defenses.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: This team's just it's done. The Chiefs are laying down.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: So that's the one I don't want. Brosmer and Johnson
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: I will mix in. I don't know which one I
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: like more. My initial thought was Brosmer because I think
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: the game environment's better and it'll be pushed more. But
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: they have so many running backs JCM Chris Rodriguez, I
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: mean they're willing to absolutely pound the football, and I
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: think they and just play action Josh Johnson. If that's
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: the case, that can also slow down the Dallas side
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: a little bit. So I think golf will be relatively
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: in check at ownership. And you have so many guys
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: you can pair him with. You can go Gibbs, Jamison
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: and am and Ra, you can play Khalif Raymond. I
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: mean he was out there a little bit, but t
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Slaw he almost had two touchdowns last week. I think
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: you can play golf in a number of ways where
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: I do find that appealing. On this slate, we only
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: have so many guys two hundred and forty and a
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: half passing prop solid decks at two seventy and a half,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: So Dak one, but I might be most overweight to golf.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: And then Brosmer, I don't think Jordan Mason's gonna play
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: it said he was a long shot. Aaron Jones just
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I mean he's he's so small, he's so frail. I
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: don't think he can handle like twenty five rushing attempts
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: or something, so I think they might have to drop
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: back a little more. And again, he's someone you can
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: play him with Aaron Jones or is Jefferson Addison Hockinson,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: and he's gonna be low on that way in a
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: dome to be trailing. So I think Brosmer is the
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: one that can back door enough for me where I
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: might just naturally have to be overweight on him. So
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: bo Nicks is the one I'm concerned with just for
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: the fact of he's gonna get plenty of ownership, but
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: they can just run the heck out of the football
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: with a Harvey with McLoughlin and get out an arrowhead
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: with an easy win that way in a slow paced game.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: So I'm not I'm gonna play some obviously, and I
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: prefer him toll A duke in and Josh Johnson. But yeah,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: ownership is gonna be important to see when it all
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: comes out. Dak's the obvious one. I think his ownership
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: could really get to like the Hurts range forty five
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: percent like we saw in the two gamer, and if
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: golf somewhere around twenty, I definitely am gonna embrace that
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Brosmer is my favorite of the cheapies. I guess, yeah, one.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Thing I was thinking about too, and I guess I
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: was just looking up the Jordan Mason Newssein I found
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: anything else.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: But as of.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Seventeen hours ago, it looks like, you know, tracking to
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: be ruled out. So that's important. What it's kind of
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: segueing and I'm not gonna go there yet, but I
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: just do we still think Gibbs?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Just quick? Do we still think Gibbs is gonna be
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: pretty high owned?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Just as there's no spends on the slate, nobody cares
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: like last week he didn't do enough.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, great, they'll go to him this week.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Do you still feel both of you guys like Gibbs
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: will be up there as a top two owned running back.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I think you might be like seventy eight percent highest
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: song on the slate period.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So that's what's interesting. So this the one
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: thing about this spot. I mean, there's no way to
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: argue the first game, the Cowboys are the worst d
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: even Josh Jahnson should be able to throw on them.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Hoop nailed it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: You get if you're playing college football out there, we
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: always talk about super flex. The best correlation is the
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: quarterback versus the quarterback. We just don't get it on
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: DraftKings Classic slates because you don't get super flex for that.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: So the setup there makes perfect sense, and there's enough
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: that he's cheap enough his guys McLaurin fifty eight hundred,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: debo forty eight, whatever you want to do with those
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: tight ends, sont or baits whatever the other guy tours
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: acl or something.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: So it's like, just thinking about.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: That that's possible. But the other spot that I like
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: and why I'll bring this up is because Aaron Jones
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: will get ownership to especially once Jordan Mason's ruled out.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: But I think it'd be really interesting to run golf
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: stacks with Aaron Jones as versus the Brasmers with the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Gibbs or both. But I'm just saying like that game
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: could still be a bit of a back and forth
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: and it would just make a ton of sense on
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: this late So I really like having those first two games.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I struggle with the bon Nicks one.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: With you guys as well, just because as much as
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I think they will just throw it on, I've talked
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: about it a ton of times where these guys just
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: continue to throw touchdowns and passing touchdowns for that matter.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Down the stretch. It's like you still need the Chiefs
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: to be able to push and do something. So I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: think more one offs.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Secondary stack to me was a this is a three gamer,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: so I get the difference, but on a main slight
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: last so he could have just played Sutton like Sutton
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: was just a fine play. Throw him in there, didn't
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: need everything else to go with it, So I'm fine
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: with that. I think the wait and see it doesn't
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: look like I don't think Pat Bryant's gonna go after
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: he went to the hospital after last game. So you
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: do have Franklin Mims, little Jordan Humphrey, guys like that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: in behind. But I'd feel much better but like one
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: offs from that game. But I guess the the interesting
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: part is a lot of people are gonna go Commanders
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: or Cowboys.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: And fill it out with Gibbs and Aaron Jones.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Once we probably get the main news, then I actually
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: have interest in stacking up those quarterbacks in the second
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: game and then figuring it out from there. And you
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: could still play those two running backs in an overstack
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: of that game and just avoid and start picking up
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: the one offs elsewhere who buggle back to you? Anything
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: else you want to add to that, if not take
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: us into the running back position.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: But we we hit on it a little bit, probably
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Gibbs and Jones.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Right, I'll ask you, Hoop, if you do play golf,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: what's your favorite way to play it? Just all the guys?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just hope that they go off, and yeah,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I mean probably just an overstack like where he's throwing
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: for three hundred and three touchdowns. I think that's the
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: best route. But it still does concern me a little bit.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: This is like, yeah, of course that's what we're saying.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: You can make everybody can make this lineup, So it's like,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that's that's what's gonna happen. Especially when you get the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: injury news and stuff brought out. It's like there's definitely
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: value plays that can just fill it out. But if
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: you need just those five guys, and yeah, it's gonna
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: be what gets there. But I definitely think that, you know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: targeting those guys within an overstack of the second game
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: would be a way to get extra different because I
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: don't know how many people get to Teslaw's or Khaliff
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Raymonds or Addison's or Nailer's or Hawkinson's. Josh Oliver loves
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: to score touchdowns like things like that, So I don't know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I think that's a more interesting way to do it
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: than the more obvious way. And then people can't fit
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: or aren't as comfortable with the version that we just
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: put up there.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: With the Dak side.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I think that's where they go to the Josh Johnson
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: side and say, well, at least I can fit all
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the pieces and just hope Josh Johnson does anything.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: That's my thoughts.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for the running back stuff, I mean,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Gibbs has to be massively owned, i'd assume, and we
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: have seen a lot of like the up and down
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: performances from him, but the peak performances are you know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: just slate breaking. You absolutely need him. People are gonna
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: look at this running back position. He's clearly, you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: in a tier of his own. In terms of ceiling floor, well,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I guess not, Flora. I mean the floor has been
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: pretty low for him this year. I mean it's really
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: been a lot of spike before ormances where you know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: goes off and then it doesn't do much. The one
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: thing is guess the good thing is he didn't do
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: too much last week, so maybe this week he does
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: go off, but you know, phenomenal play tier of his own.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: After that, you know, Javonte Williams, R. J. Harvey, Aaron
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Jones to me are kind of in that next group,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: all very viable. It looks like Javonte Williams, based on
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: some earthly numbers, is the one that's going to get
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: the most ownership. People are just gonna love Dallas this week,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: and rightfully so, I mean, this is like super Bowl
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: for the Dallas. Like again, they'll be pumped to put
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: up forty points here if they can, like they they
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: will go for it because their season has been a
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: disaster and that's kind of just what Dallas does. Then
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: you got Harvey, massive favorite Aaron Jones, and after that
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: it's like, all right, you're taking guesses with Chris Rodriguez Montgomery.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I will say Montgomery's looked terrible, like he is slow,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: like he cannot get to a hole, like he cannot
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: get to a hole, and you know he's going to
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: be a little bit owned here, but he's looked really
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: really bad. Chiefs guys are tough to click, So I mean,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: one of these random guys probably does a little bit
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: of something, but is it enough to overcome gives Javonte, Williams, Harvey,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and you know, Aaron Jones. So for me, out of
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: that secondary group, it's probably I mean Javante and then
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: r J. Harvey. I still like, if Aaron Jones, like
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: on a dead team, is going to be super and
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I get that Mason's out, Like, I totally get that
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Mason's out, but Aaron Jones is never fully healthy either.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: If he's gonna be super popular, that's probably my least
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: favorite of that I guess main group before guys.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron Jones right now looks like they're already projecting
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: for because the book's already eighty four rush receiving prop
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: and a plus one twenty on any time touchdown, So
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Little things like that. But just I mean R J.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Harvey is twelve yards behind him on the all purpose props,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: he's what seven.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Hundred bucks eight hundred I think he's eight hudred bucks more.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I was just trying to find my pricing here, Yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: eight in bucks or and R J. Harvey is a
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: bigger favorite to score a touchdown. So I mean you
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: could look at it from a couple different perspectives. Most
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: interesting just doing the title game here looking at these props,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: there is Look, I looked at Denver case and I
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, it must be, must have it just
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: on Denver.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I got to put both teams up.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Nope, there's like seven Broncos scheduled like that are favorite
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: to score, not favorite, but like a more favorite to
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: score a touchdown than Kareem Mount at plus three fifty
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: or I guess uh Rashie Rice is plus three twenty five. Sorry,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's crazy the way the odds are setting
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: up in that one. But what do you think your
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: title any you want to add at the running back position?
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Well, do we even think Rashi Rice is gonna play?
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't really seen anything this week about it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I just expected they're gonna lay it down and not
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: even bother rolling them out with any thoughts on him,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: not that I guess it really.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Most recently says unlikely to play projecting men.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, as far as the running back position, it's like
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: the guys that hoops are shitting on is the ones
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: that just game theory wise that I think I'm playing
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: in my yumri just because he leverages off Gibbs, which
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I think will be the most popular on the slate.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: And I mean I thought he's I think he's looked
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: bad for years. I couldn't imagine ever taking Montgomery off
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: the or Gibbs off the field. For Montgomery, it's worked
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: out sometimes I'm totally in agreement there, but I mean
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: they still were running what two weeks ago wildcat with
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Montgomery on like third down, third and four at the
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: four yard line. So he's plus one forty to score
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: if he's gonna be like fifteen percent or something. At
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: forty eight hundred dollars, he's cheaper than Pachecko, cheaper than
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Sea Rod, cheaper than Crosskey Merit. And again, if he scores,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: that means amen Ra is not scoring, Gibbs isn't scoring,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: and that's a lot of leverage off the field. So
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: he's definitely someone that I will be playing, holding my
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: breath and playing because I don't love it, and I
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: really just don't have too many other hot takes. I
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: think Sea Rod is pretty solid at fifty five hundred.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: He looks solid. He was the first one to get
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: the crack at it against Philly JCM did come in
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: and do solid himself, but yeah, he got more goal
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: line touch is he got more base work fifty five
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: hundred the solid price, And with Josh Johnson back there,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: they're gonna want to run the heck out of the
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: football and not have to have them drop back a ton.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: So those are my favorite two value plays that aren't
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: getting like as much ownership. But yeah, Harvey, Javonte Gibbs,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Aaron Jones all looks solid. And then if you're playing
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: a blowout script in Denver, Julil McLoughlin at four K
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: mid price, I think it's pretty interesting too. He's gotten
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: a little more work as the season's gone on, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: if they're up like three touchdowns in the fourth quarter,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: you could see bo Nicks out, all the starters out.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Garbage time counts the same, like we always talk about
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: on a three games slate, that's not as many teams
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: a forty three and a half total mixed in there,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: and like if that Cowboys game somehow bust and the
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: second game does what it's supposed to, which isn't much,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: you could see eleven points be optimal in McLoughlin, that
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: take falling in the box once he could get a
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: carry something like that. So yeah, maybe if you're playing
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: a bunch of teams, you can have a little of
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: your portfolio into a Broncos blowout script. And I think
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Lil McLoughlin would be the biggest beneficiary there.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Really like that call.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Actually it's just again from a tournament three game slate,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: like looking for something that's not too crazy. Yeah, he
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: actually has better touchdown props than any chief and he's
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: still scheduled to get like twenty five on the ground.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: And like you said, what if it's it's gonna be
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a lot different if they get garbage time. And I
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: know a lot of people just think when I'm oh,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna build my lineups around this and not
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: look for that type of stuff.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: It's not really the same as.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Like in NBA when people say, oh, I'm gonna build
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: for a blow out here and people are like, well,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: what like or them not.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Even playing the fourth court. It's like, well, what if
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: it got them there by that quarter.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: This is the case where he could be involved earlier
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: in the game and get stuff and then really get
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: it down the stretch. My man Timothy Dublin said, if
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: not on Nick's thoughts on Mims dst looking for the
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: double dip on the three game or yeah, I just
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you don't have to do the double dip. But I
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: think Mims for sure, especially assuming Pat Bryant's not going
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to go, then I would definitely be interested in trying
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: to make him work at thirty nine hundred. But to
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: titles point, if he's in like your flex and you
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: have the four K, maybe you just go to McLoughlin,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: who's you know, potential for a ton more down the
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: stretch and could do more, to wait and see, could
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: do nothing, but the idea of what he gets into
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: your lineup is quite different.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I don't have too much else to add.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I think obviously the you know, to hoops point and
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be like Gibbs, Williams and Jones, but more
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Williams and Gibbs for him. It sounds like because the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Jones situation. But just to know, like that's probably the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: popular three I'm with you title on Rodriguez.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I like the McLoughlin call. I like Harvey.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I just hope that you can get to these other
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: spots that people aren't getting to as much, and that
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: can be your separators. I'm not gonna try and look
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: for all these other crazy plays off the wall, et cetera,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: et cetera. Hope to get Kareem Hunt right for two
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: fall in the box touchdowns or something to make I
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: don't know we should play Pacheco. Last week you saw
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: genty with a team that had an eleven and a
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: half point team total and just broke the slate. Maybe
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: it's Pacheco at fifty one hundred you gotta have, but
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: not a ton of love for that type of stuff.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And the only one that's in the back of my
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: mind is one thing you mentioned title is Montgomery did
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: not do what he usually does on Thanksgiving, right, so
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: why not bust it out on Christmas and do it
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: for everybody?
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Then?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Because he only had eight carries on Thanksgiving a couple
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: of targets, they actually let him throw a ball. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: think it was just a broken player whatever. I can't
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: remember if they tried for a passing touchdown or something,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: But either way, he's forty eight hundred, and if Gibbs
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: is going to be eighty percent or seventy five percent,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: that would be something there at least as well where
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: you get different that way too, so.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Plus one forty to score, and again we always talk
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: that's that's highway robbery. I don't think his true odds
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: are plus one forty, but that's one of the best
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: on the sled at the running back position. When he's
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: forty eight hundred, and then you can go to the
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Levertte like Gibbs will be the highest owner one of them,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: and manra if he scores, it's on the ground. It
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: just it ruins that game in a lot of ways
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: when Montgomery's the one that gets there when it's all
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: said and done, so it just it adds a lot
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: of different dimensions of the slate when he's the one
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: that scores, which is why I think it's interesting.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, will they're talk about the Williams limited participation in
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: practice with the neck injury, So just trying to see
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: three hours ago the latest on that one, and doesn't
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: look like any major update. But yeah, Malik the freak
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: in behind them for sure, So if you want to
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: check that out, then go for it. But forty three
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: hundred for him and again different different type of game flow,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: but it wouldn't be crazy if you set it up,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: it'd probably be like Malik, and again you wouldn't need
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys, but the idea of him getting in probably
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: means it's a pretty solid spot. So it's kind of
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the you know, just shy of the pricing of Malik
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: and Cowboys versus Broncos and McLaughlin or something like that
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to try and pair up a blowout
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: with the defense, with the quarterback needing to throw from behind,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: different types of stuff like that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: So I don't have too much else to add here.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: At the running back though, Hoop, what do you got
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: at wide receiver?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things going on in this light,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: but it correlates directly back to the quarterbacks you already
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: talked about, So let you take it from there.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of obviously different options. Again,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: for me, it's going to start with the Cowboys guys,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: and they probably end up super popular. I mean, I'm
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: this three game slate with pick ins and ceedee lamb,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: probably you know, getting a lot of ownership. Again, the
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: numbers are kind of raw on ownership right now, but
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: they could be you know, probably close to fifty percent
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: each or so. It's kind of where Saber has it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised, but you're gonna have to look
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: for other options. I think Flornoy, I mean he's kind
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: of solidified himself as you know, the number three guy,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: and Dak trust him. I like him at thirty eight hundred.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: So I think when you go to Dallas, yes, you
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: know Pickens, you know Lamb, but Flornoy stands out as
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: a potential difference maker. I think on this slate where yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: you are going to need some cheaper options, so he
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: stands out as a play for me. I'll just kind
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: of go through the through the team's commanders. I mean
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Josh Johnson to me is probably you know, the number
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: four quarterback, McLaurin deebo. I think it's fine Treylon Burks.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: If you're looking for a cheap option thirty three, you
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: go to the Lions and obviously it's a Monro, it's Jamison.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: But this is like again like a really just big
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: fault in the Lions this season, Like Isaac Tesla can
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: make freaking plays on the field, Like I think, what
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: half of his catches have gone for touchdowns and they've
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: been like really impressive touchdowns and they've barely used them
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: this year. I'm assuming down the stretch of these last
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: couple of games, like he's gonna have a legitimate role
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: in this offense, but for some reason they seem tied
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: to Cleiff Raymans. I wouldn't be surprised. I definitely am
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: going to take chances on uh Tesla here, and the
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: ownership shouldn't be all that high. I mean, the guy
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: just has to be more involved. I mean, he can
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: make legitimate plays on the football field, so I do
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: like him at thirty four. You know, justin Jefferson, Addison
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Naylor tough with Brosmer. I mean it really is. I
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: mean they'll be in the pool, but nothing to get
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: it super excited about. You know, the Denver I think
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: you can look at some of these guys. Obviously Sutton Franklin,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: you guys have touched on Mims. I think he's fine.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Then the Chiefs guys are just going to be very
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: difficult to get to with such a low team total.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: You know, we're under the assumption Rashid Rice is going
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: to be out. I think that is the case, but
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: you know, one of these chief guys is gonna is
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: gonna get there. You know, for me, it's gonna be
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: probably floorinoy or Tesla that I'm going to be looking
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: at to be the overweight chief guy that I think
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: has a chance to, you know, potentially break the slate here.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta see the floor noise stuff too, So
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: you know, everyone's kind of assuming he's out, but it
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: says he still hopes to play on Christmas Day as
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: of twenty nine minutes ago, So we'll see if that
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: actually happens.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Because that'd be a way to really make your lineups
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: pop if if you can get a guy like him
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: in for thirty eight hundred. But like you said, there's
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: other options in these other games and these other spots.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: The Raymond the Test loss, that's pretty The other really
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: interesting thing about that is and I wonder where ownership
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: does end up going. But people that watch the games
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: or saw it, like you're gonna see Jamis playing sixty
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: four AM and Ross seventy nine, but many people will
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: just have Gibbs and want to be in that other game.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: So is that the value play that more people go to,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: because I don't know. Last week, Title ever was high
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: on forty four hundred dollars worthy because that was obviously
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: an insane price tag in a spot when you're like, okay,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: let's just see what Minsh you can do with him,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: makes it all work.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Hollywood was even cheaper now it's forty nine and forty
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: two hundred. But I don't know if like Olid, I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: don't even know if this is right either. Someone said
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Oli Dukey the end of s Island. If that's true.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I hate the English language sometimes because it's insane.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you. I'll tell you one thing, man, we
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: are not getting name checked on on this Olid Dukey,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: old duke and guy. That is not happening, Like I'm sorry,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: that is not that is not going to fly on
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: this show. We are not getting name checked on this
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: dude exactly.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: So there's that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: But I'm just allways gonna say is I don't know
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: if people are as excited because well, he did come
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: into like oh he's letting it fly a little bit.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I think was more just people were down on the
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: fact that they just lost myself included their minshewe lineups,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: and they're like, well, Minshew sucks, and then this guy
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: at least did something, but did he really do anything?
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Like it didn't look like much. So what's your thoughts
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: on these wide receivers and how you see a playing out.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: He let him fly against the Titans. They didn't even
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: score a touchdown. I mean, yeah, nothing happened. Yeah, I
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: don't really have too many. I guess hot takes on
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: the receiver room. I need to see ownership I got.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't be surprised if maybe amen Ra was a little
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: lower own because he's three hundred more than CD. And
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: I do think people will rather go CD because a
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: lot of people just plug in Gibbs to their lineup
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: right away, and like, how many Lions do they want
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: to spend up for? So yeah, the Lion's oversteck I
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: think is a little interesting. Definitely on the same page
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: with Hoop. With Tueslaw, I mean he was out there.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: I mean they needed to win that game last week
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: and he was golf through it to him he high pointed,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: he almost caught it, Like he's going to be on
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: the field. I think they know what they have in him,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: but they want to get him out on the field
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: a ton. I really like him. Thirty four hundred easy
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: way to leave money too. If I heard he was
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: the fourth highest score at the receiver position, I wouldn't
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: be shocked and that's really you can't say that about
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: many guys at that price, so Tueslaw very much stands out.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: I'm and Rod Jamo for the Lions. I'll just go
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: each team on the commander's debo Terry trailing Burks. They're
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: going to be owned for sure. That fifty eight hundred
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Terry forty eight hundred debo price, that'll stand out to
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of people. Trailing Burk's at thirty three hundred.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: He almost had a touchdown last week as well. I
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: think he is another guy to mix in down below. Yeah,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: the ownership means so much, like if we're looking at
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: forty five percent Terry or something like that, which maybe
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: it's forty just because his price. I don't know. Josh
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Johnson led team, I'm not sure I need to get
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: overweight on that. The four KNIGHTE stuff's important. If he's out.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I think Cavante Turpin at thirty five hundred would be
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: pretty interesting. Gadget guy can make plays, has some design touches.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Ceed and Pickens look really good though, and Dak stuff.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: But once you go Dak pick one off, CD Pickens
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: put in Gibbs like you're kind of going down the
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: same boat as everyone else, So find a way to
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: get different within those teams. Minnesota stuff. Is it ever
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: gonna be a Jefferson day? I don't know. Sixty two hundred.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: I do think Jameson Williams is probably more popular at
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: sixty four, and then I think Sutton and Terry are
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: probably more popular at six k and fifty eight hundred.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: So if that is true, he just in that range,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: I'll naturally probably get overweight. They're gonna have to throw
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: the ball, probably play a little bit of Brosmer as well.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Addison forty seven hundreds cheap, and don't forget about Jalen Naylor.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, they like Jalen Naylor out there. I had
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: that big game on Monday night or something or Sunday
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: night a couple of weeks back. He was the captain optimal,
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I believe. So yeah, maybe so far. The Vikings at
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: what I'm looking at probably projected ownership, just like guessing
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: a base on pricing. I think Vikings room is what
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: I'm most interested in, which it sounds gross, but I
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: think they're or under owned mainly due to the position
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: or the pricing and who's around them. And then Denver
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: stuff like I said, Yeah, Sutton coming off a big game,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be decently popular, But like you said, no,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Pat Bryant more than likely. So this is where you
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: can come for value. Marvin Mans, Little, Jordan Humphrey, Troy
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Franklin at five K looks really good now when I'm
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: talking through it like that. If Bowenicks does get squeezed
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: to an extent, I do like the Denver pass catchers
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: a good bit, maybe I can I can come back
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: and get a little more. A lot of it just
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: depends on ownership. Like each roster should tell a story.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: You gotta either leave money, you gotta get different at
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: some spot. When fowly a three games slate, especially because
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: I'm the Chiefs, like I'm gonna pretty much be exing
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: this whole team out period and not like it'll be
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: max one more than likely for me. But if I
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: had like I'd be totally fine if I was playing
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: twenty teams, axing every single Chief out and just making
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: it a five team slate. I think they're drawing really
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: really thin.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: The Broncos passing stuff, I think is a little more interesting.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I mean you have to imagine, like you know, the
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Chiefs would beat their ass for like a decade straight.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Like if they have the opportunity to come out and
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: put up just a huge number and just destroy the
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Chiefs on Christmas Day, like, they probably take advantage of that.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: So maybe they don't just try to grind it out
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: and you know, hand it off a ton, Like maybe
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: they say, let's put up a forty spot on the
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Chiefs on Christmas and embarrass their ass. Like that's in
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: play too, So maybe, you know, because I do think
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: that the Bronco's passing stuff does get squeezed a little bit.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: People are definitely going to Dallas over them. People are
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: definitely gonna go to the Line over you know, bow
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Necks and some of these pass catchers. So just kind
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: of thinking through it and talking through it, I think
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: the Broncos passing stuff is a little more a little
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: more appealing to me.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the biggest thing is about just to add on
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: to that actually works well ties into it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: But also to like what title was saying too.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Is like you don't have to run back anything on
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: these small slates, Like in main slights, you don't even
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: have to run back anything here. I think where people
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: make a lot of the mistake is they go, Okay,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I've got Dak C d Pickens, I have to get
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin in there, or Debo. It's like, no, you
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: just have to believe that that team can do enough
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: to push the pace or that the other team wants
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: to stop it. And we keep saying it. I think
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys want to stomp forty points if they can.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I think the Broncos might. You just made a case
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: they could want to do that. And the difference with
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: the Broncos is you don't. You definitely don't need to
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: run it back if you don't want to. We talked
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: about it, Title mentioned it with the Chiefs, like just
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: could almost x amount if you want it, and just
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: go and go with that if you have less lineups,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: but just noting it. Bo Nicks less than Golf more less,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: even more less than even less than Bress, Prescott, Courtland,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Sutton six k is less than Lamb Pickens, Omanra and
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Jameson Williams. And then if you got the Pat Bryant stuff,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: it's like Troy Franklin or Marvin Mims or little Jordan
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Humphrey all even cheaper again, and now you can just
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: kind of stack it up with whatever you want and
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: put that put the rest of it in there. So
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I think if you had like a boys, no commanders,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: three Broncos and no chiefs, things like that are where
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: your lineups can just get naturally different right away, and
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: you can just build lineups where it's like, okay, cowboys
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: and Broncos smash, and I'm gonna put as many Cowboys
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: and Broncos in as I can fit, and hopefully I
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: can get Gibbs in there, and it's just Gibbs on
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: the ground for the Lions, and we get that go
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: our way, and or it's Montgomery fits and that tells
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the story of what would slow down that game, as
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: well as maybe steal the points from Gibbs and Omanra
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: and the guys that I can't fit in there. So
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: from a roster construction standpoint, actually think the slate is
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: gonna be solid, and I think more people are inclined
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: to try and like run things back and how do
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I make that fit who works and correlation? Just put
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: the stomp in if you think the stomps happening, and
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: build your lineups that way. You can definitely win with
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: lineups like that, So not too much else to add.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: I think you guys covered some of it there, like
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: you know, the for the value ones and different things
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: like that. I think, like I said, the Mims, the Franklin's,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: the khalif Raymond. I guess if one thing I will
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: say the one that stood out was if Teslau gets
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: super popular because of who he is and what we've seen,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I would definitely just take a shot on Raymond.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I would also think about lineups with.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Like GoF Amanrae Raymond or goff amanra Teslaw and think
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: like they're gonna maybe pull from Williams in some cases
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: for the big plays because usually Williams is gonna be
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: something you know, thirty yards downfield, that type of stuff
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: where these guys could steal it a little bit and
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: then you know when they get up there. I know, hoop,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: you saw the penalty call there. That was a you know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Amenroe wide open again, pretty brutal call, but is what
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: That's that's the NFL.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Some dis but I mean Amorrod just gets open and
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: when he's down there, you want to target him. So
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: he had two or the three targets there and in
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, so I think that's a
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: different way you could build with the goth stuff. Also
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: anything else hoop or if not, you could take us
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: to tight end.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, nothing else to really add there, but a
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: lot of different ways obviously to go at wide receiver.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I mean each team despite you know, some of these
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: low team totals have guys. I mean, obviously the chief
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: situation a little bit different where they're just a historically
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: low team total sitting at right around twelve, which is crazy.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Tight End is definitely a difficult position on the slate.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's just not a ton of of appeal,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: just very low projections. Ferguson is probably the guy that
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: ends up with the most ownership and the highest projection,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: but he can get like an absolute goose. I mean,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: we've seen this Dallas offense where it can get really
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: concentrated around Pickens and Ceedee Lamb, which you know leaves
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: not much for him. Kelsey very tough spot for him,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: ingram Sin not TJ. Hockinson. I don't think he's practice
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: this week. If he's out, then Josh Oliver and and
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Lions are using literally like Shane Zilstra and in Ferkser.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: So it is a very very weak position. I don't
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: think I'm very interesting. I will actually I'm not interested
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: at all in double tight end. Like if I'm handbuilding
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: or you're making a few teams, make sure you don't
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: get a ton for me personally, a ton of double
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: tight end. I mean, this is this is a rough one.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Like we I would much much rather play those cheap
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: wide receivers in the flex spot or take a chance
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: on a third running back over double tight end. It
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: is a rough position. And even the teams that are
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: projected to score like Lions, like third tight end situation
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: is a mess. Broncos that really haven't used Ingram really
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: at all this year, and then we don't know with
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: with Minnesota. So it's a position we're in my eyes,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: you're just trying to get by with something. Ferguson probably
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: ends up being the highest zone, but it's a it's
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: a tough position, very very ugly.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah tight, I'll let you roll with it.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I'm looking up some other stuff here. I'm just thinking
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: of one other thing. But I'll let you take it
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: first and I'll come back to it.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, totally in an agreement. Double tight end's been very
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: popular this year on main slates and stuff. This is
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: one of the worst tight end slates you can draw up.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: I think just if I'm playing Brasmer, I'm more likely
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: to play Howkinson or Oliver. If I'm playing Dak, I'm
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: more likely to play ferg Just pairing him with your
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: quarterback now, Benson not, I guess if I'm trying to
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: have him to pick someone, I think Bensonott maybe at
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: twenty six hundred, he's very cheap. I mean, it could
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: be the case with the highest score and tight end
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: scores six on this slate, But so that was on
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: the field almost seventy percent of snaps. I think they're
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: gonna run some twelve personnel with baits as well. But yeah,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: he was out there. He was running some routes with
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: no zach Ertz. He was a pretty big beneficiary. Again,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: he's twenty six hundred. If six is the most on
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: the slate and he scores five, he has a chance
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: to be there. Ferguson's just been irrelevance ever since Pickens
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: and Lamb's roll has grown. And Javontean stuff and he
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: probably is the highest owned. Evan Ingram three K and
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: bow Nick stuff. Sure Zilstra, Yeah, I mean, Zelcher was
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: catching passes last week. If I'm playing golf, I can
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: add him in. I think I'm kind of gonna go
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: like whoever is the most popular and stuff. I just don't.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: I just want to embrace the variants of the unknowns
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: and I'll just probably be more underweight on the chalk.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Your tight ends and my tight ends. I'm more likely
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: to play if I'm playing the quarterback, so I no
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: hot takes here.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: It's gross.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it's the obvious of like the Ferguson
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: stuff gets boosted up just because Dak's so popular and
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: he makes stuff work. And that's where I think it
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: was stat again talking about it earlier. But there is
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: an opportunity where some of these Lamb Pickens lineups get
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: broken up because it's like, oh, I can just play
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Lamb and Ferguson and that fits better, and it like
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: gets me a good tight end and I can find
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: other value plays. It's harder to play Lamb Pickens. But
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: if you play Lamb and Pickens and then go to
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: you mentioned it Sinat or you go to a Josh Oliver.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Just of note, I like the Snat call twice all season.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: He's broke seven, So it's a bit on this late.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Like you said, if that's enough, that's what you need.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: But also like Josh Oliver could just catch a touchdown
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: and there's his seven plus. So it's like we're we're
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: looking for spots like that. How many people are gonna
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: have a Gibbs Josh Oliver secondary stack and then be
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: all over the Dallas Washington game in a different way,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: or have more Denver put pieces in there with Sutton
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: one off in the defense instead of a Harvey in
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: the defense, or maybe they go to McLoughlin and the
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Broncos d So I just think there's definitely different ways
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: to build it that can still make a ton of
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: sense on paper, still project pretty well, you know, within
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: seven to ten points of like what the current optimal is,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: you're not that far off. It doesn't matter as much
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: in unefel because you're looking for these ceilings. And I
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: loved your call Hoop of the avoiding it. For the
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: most part, especially at handbuilds, it just couldn't get there. Yes,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: can it help you boost it up, sure, But I
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: think we're gonna have enough opportunities to get these value
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: plays in these other spots. It just comes down to
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: if you end up needing Gibbs, Lamb, Pickens, Amnra, well
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: then you're kind of forced into that, so then you
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: will have to do it. But yeah, you're still hoping
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: for a lot because you can just see it be
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: split up a little bit. If it's like a Sutton
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Tesla that you need instead of a Pickens and Josh Oliver,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: well then yeah, that's that's gonna be the difference maker
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: for you. So just keep that stuff in mind when
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: you're handbuilding out there, and if you're using an optimizer,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: maybe you want to limit it some because you are
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: looking for these high ceilings.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: They said this last week. Man, I don't know, like
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: When you got what's the dude's name, When you got
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Oli Dukey Ola duke in throwing the ball, like that
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: shit goes out the window. Man, Like you don't get
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: to you don't get to say we're going to force
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: feed Kelsey. That's not how that works anymore. Like if
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Mahomes is back there, you have much different story. But
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: when you got this guy playing quarterback, you don't have
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: the luxury to say we're getting it to Kelsey. That's
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: not how it works.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: If they still lost that game, it was unfortunate.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Obviously they not only lost but also lost Mahomes with
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: a minute fifty five seconds or whatever.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Very unfortunate to end the season.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: But if you see them lose that game and Mahomes
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: stays healthy, then I think we really get a Kelsey
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: homecoming stretch down the road. Even though they're out and whatever,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I still think that it would just be him hitting
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: him a ton.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Hitting him and wanting to hit him are two very
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: different things here.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: And I don't know the other thing about the Broncos
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: here now, just that just always my mind works in
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: different ways. Title just flows into this. It's like the
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Broncos d also just got embarrassed. I know, like Lawrence
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: has been on this run and the thought process was
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: last week of like, oh yeah, but he'll finally fall
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: apart when he faces a real defense man. They came
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: out really underwhelming there, and this would be a great
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: spot now going back to Hoop's original point of just
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: wanting to pound the points on and d up and
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: all that. Not like it's a surprise because their defense
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: is going to be the highest owned on the slate.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's very easy to fit it's thirty seven
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: hundred they're going against this guy with the Chiefs are
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: such a low team total.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: But any thoughts on.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: That and applying that like you're maybe your McLoughlin take
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: gets us there again, but anything else on that and
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: anything else at tight end if not you go to defenses.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean I think the Broncos like defense.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: When I was going to talk about just want a
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: ton of the Broncos and yeah, it's gonna be chalky.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: But if I'm not really playing this old duke, if
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: I'm exing out all these Chiefs guy guys, I just
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: I want to load up on Denver. I don't see
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: how they just move the football now. But that being said,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: it could just be a bunch of incompletions and stuff
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: and some other defense gets to pick six or we
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: know how random stuff is Mims Denver defense. For a
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: little correlation there, Turpen Dallas defense. You can that applies
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: more on smaller slates, But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that. Yeah,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Denver wants to bounce back from last week if they
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: want to get everything going. Bon Nix has got a
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: little more intriguing as we've talked through it, especially because
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: he has so many different pass catchers and they're gonna
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: be without Pat Bryant, which is another big guy. So yeah,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: you have Ingram, you have Mims, you have a lot
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: of cheap options that you can mix in there defense
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: outside of the Broncos. Ah Man, I don't know, Detroit maybe, uh,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: I guess Minnesota might be hoops low owned one if
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: that is the case. Twenty seven hundred, just sorting my salary, chiefs, commanders, Vikings.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: I think Vikings are the most appealing down below. Brian
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Flores is definitely going to send a lot of pressure
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: and make off make quick decisions, which, yeah, if he
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: figures it out, he can put up a lot of points,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: but could have some mistakes. I just want a ton
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: of Broncos, so if I had sixty percent of them,
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: I'd be fine. It's a very high variance position and
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: one hard to figure out. But it feels a lot
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: easier when a team's applied for twelve points with probably
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: no Rashiet Rice and they can't run the football. I
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: mean it can get gross f rohim fast.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just trying to look at it here.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Did you see the millionmaker winner last week?
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Had it had Bowers gent and Raiders Dan.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Raiders d It just jammed the three against Houston at
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the very end, and I don't even know we looked
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: it up, like it's hard to tell they had thirty lineups.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know. They didn't need a late swap.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Like the morning went fine for them obviously, and it
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: was kind of like whatever gets there gets there. I
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: kind of wondered how they got to that, But it
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: was just pretty crazy to say, I'm just gonna jam
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: these two Raiders and hope for the best. And you know,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: you can even in some cases eliminate ceiling by doing that,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: because you know, in something like the twenty dollars million makers,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: like well Bowers takes two touchdowns, how does Jend get them?
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of like the thought process was to me,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: it was like maybe they just had that lineup in
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: the mix and it's just what fit.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: But that's the end of the day.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: There's four hundred and forty two thousand people in it too,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: so you can have the nut morning start and you
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: still need like the most everything to go right for you. So,
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: like I there's nothing wrong with just like she always
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: talks about in Survivor just right when you think you
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: should stop pushing it, you should keep going, like just
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: because you have the nuts. I mean, you need so
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: much to go right, So yeah, shout out to him.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Like think of one hundred and forty two thousand your
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: football stadium, your home football stadium path now times that
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: by two pretty much you have to be that one guy.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: So yeah, shout out to him. I mean, embrace all
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: the variants. If you're playing that million Makers as who
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: knows people were like the worst lot whatever, you need
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: you need to get so so lucky in so many
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: ways throughout the whole.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: So well, it's the one thing. It's like when you
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: won fifteen or in that milli maker and you get
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: the absolute nuts in the afternoon, let's say five guys win,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: you got the you got the nuts. You feel like
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: you're a favorite to win that thing going into the afternoon, right,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: and you still need those not even close, Like you
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: need the three or four guys or left in your
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: lineup to do something. And how many times do you
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: look at that lineup that that nuts in the afternoon
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: and you're like, I got a sweat going into the
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: afternoon games and you do, but really you don't, because
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I mean you need everything to still go right in
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: that lineup. So yeah, it's tough mentally to think about
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: it that way. And we all fall victims. I always do.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Everyone does it. If you're doing this stuff, you're looking
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: to see what do I have in the afternoon that
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: went off? Everyone's looking and you get that confidence like, damn,
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I got the squad that has the top five score
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: from the afternoon or from the early games. Now let's
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: go into the afternoon and finish this puppy off. And
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: it's It's tough, man, It's.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Definitely over till it's over. That's my new It's not
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: like and nobody cares where Carter. But my new mantra
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six and I've been already on it
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: already is just like.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Nothing is What was it I wrote it down there
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: that I was trying to think about. It's basically saying
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: like anything can still happen. Nothing is final yet. Because
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: so many people have like the catastrophic mind that goes like, oh,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: the worst case scenario, but like the current scenario, even
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: if you've been winning a millionmaker and then dropped at
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: the end or almost wanted but didn't get there. Whatever
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: it is, it's like this today's situation has nothing to
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: do with that one. You just recognize the feeling of
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: like this could happen, but it could also go your way.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: So I know a lot of people like to think
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: about the worst case scenario outcome. I think about the
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: stuff all the time. And just a couple of weeks ago,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I had three guys left. I had, Yeah, the guy
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: in front of me had Goff Williams and a Manra.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I had that too, But I had Pooka Kittle and
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Pollard and I'm a point behind him or two points behind.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: It's like this is this is a great opportunity. With
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: five and a half minutes left in the game, when
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Pollard scores that touchdown, I'm like, Okay, here we go.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Still didn't get there, and then who people that don't
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: know your MILLI sweat.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of people know you won the million, that's phenomenal,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: But the could have been the ultimate worst case scenario
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: of all time.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: You would have had the second best lineup, which in
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Showdown this happens a lot.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: The second best lineup is twenty fifth place.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Sure, but Buddy had a train in front of you
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: have twenty of the same lineup lost money.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: It's insane. Yeah, you would have lost money.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I don't pass him. I went from I would have
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: gone if I don't pass that guy who I needed
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: like what thirty five or something from Josh Jacobs. If
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: I don't pass him, I finished twenty fourth and I
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: won fifty. So twenty fourth in one fifty means you
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: lose money. So I would have lost money instead of million.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: It's just imagine that guy how much was he gonna
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: take on.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Oh like one point. I don't know, he had one
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: through twenty fourth place.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Because of the scenario. That's what's funny, is like.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: He didn't still make it, Yeah a million.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Less though, Yeah it's not ideal, but I'm saying, like,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: good for a guy hoop and that guy still gets
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: second through twenty first or whatever it was.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: It was a big day for him still, and you're like,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: what could have been for it?
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: What was that?
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: What are people thinking when they do that?
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Like putting all like.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: That was funny because I had the extreme game stack.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: He took it. He took it a next level. He
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: had another running back from that game was like Rashad
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Penny or something, so I had the six or seven guys.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: He had the entire lineup front from that game except defense.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: And to make is whether he was like all in
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: on the game, stack just run it and if I
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: win it, I win all the money, or if he
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: just forgot.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: His CSV I uploaded it and said whatever, like it's yeah,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: you know, because it was definitely a spot to be
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: that week. It was just how far did you go in?
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: And that's what we talked about in the late is
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: a prime example just getting back to this one is like,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: if you're all into that Dallas Washington.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Game, all in is not dak Lamb, Pickens and Terry.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: That's like the standard setup for most people trying to
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: start it off or some version of dak Lamb, Ferguson
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: and Terry.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Oh I really got this game. I'm covering it.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: No like people are gonna have dak Javonte Rodriguez, McLaurin, Pickens, Ferguson,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Sinat like you could. You can get all over these
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: games if you think that's gonna be the way to
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: do it. So yeah, definitely some really interesting ways to
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: build out this week. I think anything you had to
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: add on the defenses too.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I agree with title, like, give me
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: as much Broncos as possible. It's still going to get
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: spread out a little bit. It's not like they're going
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: to be sixty percent on on the slate, Like people
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: are going to play a little bit of all the defenses.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: So it has to be held in check a little bit.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Give me as much as I can get, and then
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: I think the Vikings are the not sneaky, but the
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: cheaper one that I definitely like. I mean, they're going
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: to bring pressure, like, they have a good chance of
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: getting sacks, they have a good chance of getting interceptions,
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: they have a good chance of getting Golf to fumble
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: the football. And this isn't just me hating on golf
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: like we've seen it. They always bring the pressure, especially
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: against Golf because they know he can't handle it. They
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: do a very good job. They're going to bring it
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: probably the entire game, which is going to give them opportunities. Yeah,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: it could result in some big plays for the Lions offense,
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: but it could also result in some sacks, turnovers and
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: maybe a quick touchdown or somebody throws the flat boom
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: on for you know, pick six. So definitely like the
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Vikings for cheap, but I want, definitely want as much
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Broncos as possible.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: And I forgot to recap this off the top. You
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: probably know it better than I do, or maybe title does.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: But what I think, it's like the slimmest of chances
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: now right for the Lions because of that loss, they.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Have to win out. They got to win their next two,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: and the Packers have to lose their next two.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: And the Packers play.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, screw the Ravens, I think, but.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: They have Ravens and then they have Vikings. Yeah, so
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: it's not like I'm good for the line. I mean,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: they're like less than ten percent to get in and
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: they don't serve to get in, so I actually hope
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: they don't get in. But yeah, they got Ravens Vikings.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: But there's still some pre There's multiple pressures on golf here,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: golf on the road, pressure from the Vikings d and
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: pressure to still at least win the game even though
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: you don't know what the other teams are gonna do.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: You're first, you're off first.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Your job is still just win two games and see
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: what happens. That's like you know that we're kind of
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: done this stuff. We usually do this. We're wrapping up.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: It's the holidays.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: The one yesterday title that maybe laugh is like them
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: asking Max Crosby about getting the pick because the Raiders
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: play the Giants are like, what do you think about
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: getting the pick? He's like, Buddy, I'm here to be
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: the best defensive end in the league. It's not that's
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: not my job. I'm going out to do my job
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: because I get paid, renewed, et cetera. On everything that
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: I do. I'm not going out there worried about the
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: pick right now and then, Like I do know, these
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: these guys just ask the funniest question.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: Sometimes he's so good man. I mean, his motors, he
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: has every right to give up and all that with
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: that team, and that dude just flies plays.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: That's the guy I feel bad for. Like I want
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: to see him in a different spot. We stay though,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: I don't get it. Yeah, I don't know. I want
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: to see him on a legit team because I think
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: he could be the best. I think he'd be the
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: best in the league if he was on like a
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: legit whoever you think the best? I mean, I think
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: you know Miles Garrett Aden, Yeah, Mike. I think he
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: could be I think he would be the best if
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: he was on a good team.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Most of those guys, that's happening, right, they're on terrible teams.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Like that's why I always said, when teams go into
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: the dog Pound in Cleveland, they're like, oh, this is
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: the shooty Brown. It's like, yeah, but Miles Garrett is
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: not bad and like these this guy's coming at your
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: quarterback whether you like it or not on the road
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: in a pretty rowdy place. Like that's why you saw
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: teams like Ravens when they might be good. You saw
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Packers going there, like the team's go in there and
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: lose the games, not just play tight games or whatever
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: close calls. It's they'll lose straight up. So and then
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: the other thing I didn't understand was like the isn't
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: it like a you know your cause your cleats type thing?
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: And then there was something with his daughter.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: His daughter and he wore these pink cleats and they
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: were like on the sidelines telling them I don't know,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: like the NFL.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Calls it in or you guys got to watch. This's crazy.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: But he's like he saw the trainer holding his white
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: cleats like on the sidelines.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: He's like, what, I gotta come out.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, they say, if you don't come out
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: and change your cleats, you're coming out of the game completely.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: He's like, nah, if that, He's like, I'm going back.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: He's like, I'm staying in for this drive. He gets
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: a sack, then goes to the side and changes them up.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: He's like, screw you, guys. But I don't know what
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: the point of all this stuff is. If it's like,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: your cause your cleats, what's bad about the cleats?
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: What do you do wrong?
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: We did him and I had to go to the
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: same university for for for a while, Eastern Michigan.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: That's what Huh.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: It was funny when I was It's a funny, just
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: random story. When I was there, Uh, you know, it
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: was a long time ago, but I was in this
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: big auditorium class and we're it was I think it
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: was like a history class, you know, something that really
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: didn't matter, just one of those classes that you had
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: to basically redo from high school first year of college.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: And I'm get lined up. I've been in the back
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: of the classroom. It's a test and like I see,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: like these all these dudes and they're all big dudes
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: like football players. They're all like lined up diagonally and
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: they're holding up they have the answer key to the test,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: so they're like one at a time, like holding it
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: up over their shoulder. Boom boom boom. Well I happened
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: to be like perfectly in this diagonal angle with all
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: these guys. So they're all jotting it down real quick,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: and then like a big ass lineman in front of
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: me tap him on the shoulder like hey, you know,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: so he holds it up. Boom boom boom. Perfect score
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: on the test because all the players from Eastern that
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: solid set up there. There you go, random story.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: But it sounds like they were literally like just not
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: allowing pink cleats or something like seems ridiculous.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: But he's like, I was gonna take the fine, he's like.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: But then it was like got a bit crazier because
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: you know, they were like, you're not playing the rest
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: of the game if you don't change them. And his guy,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: he said, his equipment guy was holding the other ones
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: on the sidelines that he had to go change into that.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know, just silly stuff like that that we
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: see kind of kind of stupid, But whatever, anything else
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: from you title here, anything else you want to talk
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: about before we get.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Out of there.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: No, I just I was just talking NBA yesterday. But like,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: we have the daily Pass that obviously came out, but
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: the five days, I mean, there's zero better time to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: use it. Tomorrow is a massive day in multiple sports,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: and Saturday we're back with another two game Action Hoop
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: and I will talk Friday the two games slate, and
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: then it's Sunday right there again and then Monday Night Football.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: So yeah, there's ever a time to use that five
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: day I mean, the amount of the prize pull money
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: on both sites, I'm not sure you can get greater
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: than that in five day stretch and what we're coming
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: up with. So yeah, we'd love to have you to
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: get act to the Discord as well.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big time time to get in for that good call.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: You just go to join the nation, click it when
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: you get on the page. It loads you automatically, whether
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: you're on mobile or desktop, right to the trials. Day
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Pass is great, but there's no better value because the
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: day Pass doesn't come with the Discord community. So day
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Pass is better for like an MMA slate let's say
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: during the regular see there's no football.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: It's UFC A moan in the.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Future now I think three twenty six or something like
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: it's in the future and you're just watching that slate
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: and you're like, man, I kind of just want to
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: get the action. We used to have it set up
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: where you'd have to buy a weekly all access pass,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: and it was a.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Little bit more.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Then we'd like to be charging people because we know
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: we really do take pride and having the most affordable,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: most valuable content, even if you're adding it on and
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: you're already with someone else or whatever it might be.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: The nine dollars day pass works good just to go
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: in and say, hey, I want the MMA content, I.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Want to read title slate plan.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Well, there you go, watch the free show, put it together,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: use the stone, et cetera. But the five days for
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: nineteen dollars just ten bucks more includes the Discord, Saber,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: SIM all access everything, And that's everything across the board
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: right now now with NBA and NFL alone.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow there's a Saturday two gamer, a Sunday full main
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Slate nine game for NFL, and then there's Monday Night
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: football as well. This week a really good game the Rams,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I know the Hoopster. Congrats to you, by the way,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: in the Best Ball Streets. So I don't know how
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: your season long faired, but the Best Ball Streets, man,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: you got a big sweat there.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: And that Monday night game with Pooka and Stafford and
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Hits and all those people that got everything through to
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: the finals.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be a big boy game for that one.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Well, hopefully the best ball goes as well as the
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: season long because in the final score, and this is
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: just standard scoring full PPRS, final score was one ninety
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: five to seventeen. Season so they had Pooka, JSN, I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: had Purty etn Boers, Saints defense scored a buck.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: I'm more excited for that than his best ball sixty
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: one K, twelve hundred.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Bucks something he's gonna win. Meanwhile, he's sweating for a
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: million over in a fifty field where he's won this.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: I'll take the same results, all right.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: So let's do this because it's and we we can
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: hang in a few minutes here. Let us know the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: chat to what you're up to for if you're celebrating
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Christmas or your holidays, whatever you celebrate, what are you
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: up to for the rest of the day. We'll do
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: ours in a minute. But title, did you see hoops
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: basketball team?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I saw I saw the I
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: will admit Hoop ran pretty good in that pod. Luck
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: that's a that's what you want. But and Kenny Man,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: I feel for Kenny. How how we didn't throw that
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: challenge like for tons that that's won a lot of money.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: But no, I actually didn't. Let's hear the team Hoop.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if do you do? You send it
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: It's kind of it's it's a let's see so it's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: got Well, I've been so I took Trevor Lawrence at
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: the end of a lot of these drafts. So Trevor
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Lawrence was like the main dude in there. Js N
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: obviously a manra have Tesla, So okay, I'd love I'd
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: love for Tesla to get more involved. Yeah, I have.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Let's see who's the other wide receiver? So JS and
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: a moanra Tesla got that dude for the Patriots, that
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Williams guy. That rand only gets Marvin Harrison Junior. Oh,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: here's where it could get interesting, because I got the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Metcalfs out I have feeling and Kelvin Austin, so they
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: could be like wide receiver one. Yeah, there, it is all.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: These kind of shitty but because I have to blow
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: it up obviously, we got three of us at the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: same time and trying to show it off and see.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: But the one thing I noticed about it for sure
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: when you said it to me that I said, is
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: I know everyone's all gamed up and correlated up.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: And I get it. That's the by the way, that's
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: the best ball bro theory.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: And maybe it's true. But I will say DFS taken over.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Hoopster got in, shaloubar Man got in. I'm excited. I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: hope they go one too. I saw csu Ram got four,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: A Ravens got one. Who else did I see it?
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: And they're like a bunch of DFS players are just
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: taken over. But yeah, with with some of these ceilings
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: title you tell us about, you've obviously had very very
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: good success in the Best of Wall Streets winning the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Drafters one for a different strategy over there, I guess.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: But two point two Jordan fifty k. But like the ceilings,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: he's got here. Lawrence Brown Harvey JSN Teslaw like.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: God, you're in greats that tomorrow is a huge day
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: for you.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tomorrow's massive for me. All these guys are playing
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: Ferguson down there.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: Hopefully, Hocket you need both, Yeah, both your tight ends.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: Harvey's in a phenomenal spot and your Lions are in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: a great spot.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: And the Beangles Chase Brown Bengals are big favorite.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: So I mean, it's de point live.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not as correlated as some of the
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: other teams. I'm assume. I'm guessing the Ram stuff will
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: gonna be very popular by the Stafford Puka stuff. I'm
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: assuming a lot of teams sure, although I did talk
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: to CSU and I assume like most his teams had puka,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: and he said only one of his teams actually as puka,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: which is kind of interesting because he's scored fifty last week.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, there's so many low totals, there's only yeah,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, like they're almost all low. So fifty two
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: and a half, you got Bengals, Cardinals, if you've got
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Harrison Chase Brown right there. The Lions are implied for
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: a lot. But I mean there's a lot of really
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: low scoring projected games this week, So yeah, I mean,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: no title limit.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: You tell me this again.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not a best ball bro, but I will say,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: like the Rams Atlanta game rounds out the Best Ball finals,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: and it's Puka and Pits that got everyone to the house.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: At the end of everyone, like Coop said, it's not there.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: But it's funny that there's got to be teams that
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: were like, holy shit, these two just won it for
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: me basically to get me in. And now they get
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: that matchup squaring off on Monday Night Football between Pooka
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: and Pitts and that could just be crazy that that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: turns into the be all end all.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's gonna swing a lot of money. Hopefully there's
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: no crazy.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: I have zero pieces of it.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: So maybe you do want the craziness from a couple
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: of years back with the Hamlin stuff. Obviously no one
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: wants anything like that, but that'll always go down. Yeah,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: that won't be fun for you, But if you're sitting
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: there up there with nothing, it won't be fun to
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: watch an Anti sweat that.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Hell no, I'll go to sleep early that night.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow is huge for you.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, a lot of guys tomorrow.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: What about this, dude, don't forget your boy, Adam th D.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I got him man Calvin Austin
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: if he plays, I mean they could be one two.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: How bad is uh? Oh? You got Rico too?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: I like it?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Ben Yead at the bottom here? Who who don't you?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Who was this?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: That guy's out? That guy's out. The bottom three are
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: all out for sure. I should play.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: Other than that, that's a really healthy team relative to
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: most's gonna play.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Goddard is nice.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Three quarterbacks, three quarterbacks, three legit running backs, five or
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: six wide receivers, three tight ends. I mean it's it's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: got off. We'll see big.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: What's the men cast?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: Jordan said ten k ten, I don't want that, not
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: playing for that.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you wouldn't take it because they're guaranteed that.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's brilliant final and then you get there and
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: get nothing. It's like, oh, that's not what I wanted.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: But the trip is al We did just add the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: twelve days of ship miss I.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Actually it'll be in.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Within the hour the final day and there's a grand
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: prize and then a bonus prize as well. So if
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: you've been involved from day one, and if not, you
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: can go back through them and hit them up quickly.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: If you've been involved throughout, that's where the winner is
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: gonna come from for the Day twelve one, And we
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: had a lot of fun doing that. That was just
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: another add on giveaway. We had some non members win,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: we had some members win. We you know, we had
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: a ton of fun doing that throughout the holiday season.
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  Speaker 2: doing a ton more content. We keep teasing it, but
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  Speaker 2: obviously with the PGA season upcoming, gonna have some pretty
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  Speaker 2: solid content out of the PGA season I think this year.
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  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a good one. Hoop any any
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  Speaker 1: big plans for today? What are you up to?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just family stuff, hitting the missus hoops family today,
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  Speaker 3: my family tomorrow, and uh yeah, that's about it. So
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  Speaker 3: looking forward to it. Merry Christmas to everyone out there
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  Speaker 3: and enjoy the time with family and friends. That's what
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  Speaker 3: that's what it's all about everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Knows you love family and friends.
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  Speaker 2: What I really want to know is what is on
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  Speaker 2: the menu and what's Hoopster having to drink today?
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  Speaker 3: That's really what let's see on the menu. I think
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  Speaker 3: the mother in law, I think she's making tacos, which
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  Speaker 3: is right up my alley loves love tacos. So going
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  Speaker 3: tacos today and then tomorrow. I believe my mom is
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  Speaker 3: making some sort of pasta things. So tacos today, so
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  Speaker 3: Mexican today, Italian tomorrow and take that two of my favorites.
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  Speaker 3: So that and then drink wise, be with my brother
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  Speaker 3: in law. And title title knows my brother in law
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  Speaker 3: quite well. He likes to go hard, so it could
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  Speaker 3: be a wide range of things. I will say I'll
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  Speaker 3: start out slow, probably with some some beers, and then
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll kick it up a notch to some
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  Speaker 3: some whiskey or bourbon at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, very nice. That's that's awesome. Title. What do you
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  Speaker 1: got planning?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on with you? The you know, the missus,
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  Speaker 1: the little one in the in the in the oven.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on over there? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Her side to start, then my side, So both of
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  Speaker 4: them are today. Been hitting church later and then tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: her dad's side will be up having to travel. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the computer will be with me. There'll be a lot
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  Speaker 4: of late swaps and stuff tomorrow. But yeah, very busy,
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  Speaker 4: uh busy day today for sure. On the menu, it's
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  Speaker 4: not nearly as good as hoop. I think her side
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  Speaker 4: does like Italian beef stuff. I'm not the biggest fan.
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  Speaker 4: Mine will do lasagnya tonight or like BBQ stuff. I
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  Speaker 4: like lasagna, so that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean there's a lot of like desserts and other stuff there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I love Mexican, I love pasta, and tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: i'd bey do like this creamy chicken broccoli. It's not great,
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, I'm not. I'm rather pretty bad in the
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  Speaker 4: food department.
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  Speaker 3: I'm played that. Hopefully I play another titles relation his
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  Speaker 3: family tuning.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I gotta do better. If you're watching, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry watching them. Sorry, I'll just think.
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  Speaker 4: Beef tartar or the I think we've talked about this,
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  Speaker 4: like you pick up raw beef and you put it
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  Speaker 4: on uh the rye brad with some salt and pepper
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  Speaker 4: and on. You guys do that you like for sure,
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  Speaker 4: well done.
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  Speaker 1: Stakes he ain't doing no beef.
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  Speaker 4: You like it though?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, actually I wish we had some of that tonight.
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  Speaker 1: We don't.
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  Speaker 2: But thinking about you saying the laptop in hand, thinking
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: back to even before obviously now I'm married, man, but
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: in you know, asking her dad for the blessing and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: going into that conversation one second late, swap, do the
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  Speaker 2: laptop come back? You know? Can I have your daughter's
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  Speaker 2: hand in marriage? You know, just just setting it up,
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, you gotta have a laptop in hand. Two
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  Speaker 2: big sports tomorrow, staggered starts. You get all the games
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  Speaker 2: throughout the day. It's gonna be a fun you know.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: I'm busting it out, man, I'm going hard right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm on a little health kick break, so I'm having
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: I'm eating right right now drinks, so.
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  Speaker 1: I'm finally back into it and enjoying it. Today.
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  Speaker 2: We've got my dad, my step mom, and then my
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  Speaker 2: wife side her mom and brother and sister. They'll over
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  Speaker 2: and we're gonna do all kinds. We got bacon wrap scallops,
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  Speaker 2: we got seasoned chicken wings.
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  Speaker 1: We got what else do we got?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.
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  Speaker 2: Buffalo chicken, dips like there's this, there's there's Millionaire bars.
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  Speaker 2: They got like biscotty cookie crunched up on the bottom
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  Speaker 2: with bisca cookie spread, chocolate caramel, all blended together, and
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  Speaker 2: then you cut them up and eat them.
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  Speaker 1: And then you got our guy, a Lini.
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  Speaker 2: Fan in the discord send out this recipe for these
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  Speaker 2: Texas sheet cake cookies.
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  Speaker 1: Did I don't bake nothing, man, This is, you know, awesome,
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  Speaker 1: the most incredible cookie ever.
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  Speaker 2: Though it's like eating a piece of cake that's just
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: over chied. I don't even chocolate that much usually, And
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: so it was insane. And then Christmas crack and then
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: tomorrow the most amazing dinner that people just hate on
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: always going over to get the beautiful, juicy, succulent turkey dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe sorry to hear that Italian.
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  Speaker 4: He's running as bad as me on Christmas Day checking
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  Speaker 4: broccoli and that in turkey.
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  Speaker 1: I love it, man, It's so good.
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  Speaker 3: You know, family's watching, so he's got to talk it up.
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  Speaker 4: You know, has been saying he likes turkey.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I never met a meal. I
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: didn't like hoop. That's the thing about me.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I give title, I give title all this
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  Speaker 3: ship for being the healthy Eater and you know it
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: doesn't ever cheat on the meals and ship like that.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: But I might have to start directing it your way
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  Speaker 3: because you've been you've been sticking to this for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm turning forty soon next month, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: getting out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah what are you forty two one one?
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't tell that people. People get up
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: there and they get all like sad and deprived, like
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: I don't feel forty one, so they yeah, forty one
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: that are looking off forty one. I'm still hitting the gym.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm very thankful for my health, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: feel forty one. Good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. That's what it's all about, man, And uh,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: the main the main thing. We was just thinking about it.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously we had a really tough year with the DJN
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: news and we miss him every day, and obviously everyone
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: supports and shouts out a lot more news on that
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: stuff in the new year, as far as like we've
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: we've donated to the charities along the way. We've got
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: the big Guy event that we're planning now looking like August,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: so we're getting the final details together for that, it's
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of fun. But just like when
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: you have health scares and things hit and things like that,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: it just kind of changes your mentality even more. Not
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: that I shouldn't have been on it already, but definitely
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: kind of helped push me. So this past year was
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: a lot about physical health and getting things checked out
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: and make sure things are good and working on that stuff,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: and that's what, you know, sort of put me to
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: put the work in. So the big guy in the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: guy always looking down taking care of us and his
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: people love to see that. And it'll be a lot
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: more about the mentals in the next year in twenty
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: twenty six, and just focusing on, you know, stepping away
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: from some things that you don't have to be as
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: involved in and being able to just you know, take
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: life for what it is and live day by day
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: and think about it from that perspective. So hopefully if
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: anybody out there is struggling with it or wants to
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: talk about it, I'm always here. But I think it's
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: a big thing is if you can just sit back
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: and realize what you have and what you need and
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: all these different factors. A lot of people don't do
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: that and just grind themselves out and hit them hard mentally.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's my two cents.
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  Speaker 2: But hopefully everybody has a phenomenal mary ship mess, happy holidays,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: whatever it is you're celebrating, we wish you the best title.
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  Speaker 1: Any final thoughts or any want to add before you
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  Speaker 1: got out of.
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  Speaker 4: Here, Yeah, count your blessings when life's great, Just try
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  Speaker 4: and stay ground to when life's bad, try and remember
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: what you have, whether it's heell, family, friends. Yeah, we played,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: we play a game, we love and stuff, but at
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, there's more important things of
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: life then thank getting on here. But yeah, I appreciate
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: everyone hanging out and yeah, enjoy it. I'm a blessed holiday.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever you may celebrate, Yeah, hoop any anything else ben
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  Speaker 1: before we go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just merry Christmas, Happy holidays everyone out there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just to kind of add on you guys
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  Speaker 3: said it so eloquently, But man, there's a lot of
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: important things of life. You know, family and health. There's
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: not many that family, health, and faith there's not you
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: know many that are above that. So you know, everything
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: got to put into perspective. But yeah, happy holidays, Merry
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Christmas and If you are playing DFS, good luck on
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Christmas Day. It's a it's a big, big prize pool slate.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: Not the most exciting games, but big prize pool, So
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: good luck to everyone. If you're diving in, yeah, who
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: are you kidding?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: Everybody here is playing dfsciate you guys. As Marquee Sports says,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, Happy holidays to everyone, and be safe.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: I love that additional ad.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: If you're out there having some drinks tonight or at
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: family friends, whatever it might be, definitely take care of yourself,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: find a way back. We appreciate you guys, Thank you
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  Speaker 2: so much for watching, enjoy your holidays, for title, for Hoop,
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  Speaker 2: and for myself Totech and tambo led ship it