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Kids and notifications: Should we normalise ‘Call or Message Bombing”? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang and the club on nine
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  Speaker 1: four seven anything now.
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  Speaker 2: So at the I really don't want to do this
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  Speaker 2: thing that older people do.
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  Speaker 3: Note I say it old, not I said older, not old,
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  Speaker 3: not older. I don't want to do this thing that
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  Speaker 3: older people do.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also included in this by saying in our day,
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  Speaker 2: in our day, in our day, I really.
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  Speaker 3: Don't like that thing because.
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  Speaker 2: Change, yeah, times change, and news flash, mom, we're.
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  Speaker 3: Not in your day. We are in this day.
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  Speaker 2: So you must parent for the times that you're in
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  Speaker 2: and not parent on nostalgia of where you come from.
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  Speaker 2: But in this instance, I think it is fair for
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  Speaker 2: us to come and bring it's the phrase in our day.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: So this lady is telling the story saying that her
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: son plays cricket. Sun is playing cricket, which means that
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  Speaker 2: he's a batsman. So he's on the field. And if
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: you're a batsman, you could be in the field for
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  Speaker 2: a long time, even if you're a bolder. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: even more so, if you're fielding, you there the entire time.
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  Speaker 2: The child is on the field, right when they come back.
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: To switch teams.
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  Speaker 2: She wasn't paying attention to his phone, but she sees
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  Speaker 2: that he has been called forty two.
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  Speaker 3: Times, forty two times calling him by the same person.
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  Speaker 2: So this person is trying to get hold of him, right,
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  Speaker 2: but forty two times and she was just like, listen,
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  Speaker 2: it's a bad e screame. And now he's like seventeen
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  Speaker 2: years old. Is she allowed to to kind of step
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  Speaker 2: in or even call that girl's parents to be like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't see why your child is ringing my child
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  Speaker 2: forty two times?
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  Speaker 4: Oh is it a girl?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, And it wasn't an emergency.
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  Speaker 4: No, she's just trying to get hold of him.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's a lot. That's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: So are we allowed now to institute the in my
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  Speaker 2: day philosophy? Because in our day there was a landline.
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  Speaker 2: If you called my landline forty two times, my parents
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  Speaker 2: were gonna have a word with.
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  Speaker 5: You because your parents had access to the person on
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  Speaker 5: the landline. So if you phone my house forty two
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  Speaker 5: times in the nineteen eighties, I'm answering, right, and I
• 2:02
  Speaker 5: have to call Frankie to come to the phone, and
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  Speaker 5: then at some point I have access to you to say,
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  Speaker 5: my darling, this is excessive. You cannot do this. But
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  Speaker 5: this day and age, you don't it's you. You have
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  Speaker 5: access to kids, but you don't, do you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean? So would you be talking to a child
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  Speaker 5: about how many times they're phoning you? Or would you
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  Speaker 5: then have the conversation with your child. I think I'd
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  Speaker 5: have the conversation with a child and be like, why
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  Speaker 5: is this person calling you forty two times?
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  Speaker 3: Don't you think that's bad? And if he says he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't think it's bad, well, this is what I'd be like, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: This is my question because I think I mean, like
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  Speaker 1: you said, when we grew up, people didn't have that
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  Speaker 1: access to you in any case. Right now we've got WhatsApp,
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  Speaker 1: WhatsApp messages, what's a phone calls doesn't cost anything, right,
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  Speaker 1: so people are it's easier to get hold of someone,
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  Speaker 1: and you also expect an immediate response, because that's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing. When we grew up, the landline, when you
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  Speaker 1: got the message, you got the message, when you got home,
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  Speaker 1: wherever you might have been, no one could get hold
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  Speaker 1: of you if you're not there. But now wherever you
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  Speaker 1: are as a kid, people can get hold of you.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: I think teenagers will also see it differently. They'll be like,
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  Speaker 5: because there's two sides, that's coin right, and no, I
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  Speaker 5: called you forty two times to show you I was
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  Speaker 5: thinking of you the whole time while you were batting,
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  Speaker 5: or that's also not saysed with you. So if you
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  Speaker 5: have a conversation with the child, you'll be able to say,
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  Speaker 5: is she calling you forty two times? Because what's the
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  Speaker 5: reason is? And then your child will either say no,
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  Speaker 5: that lady's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: That will tell you.
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  Speaker 2: When I flagged it to my son, he said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you've been dramatic because if you if he had answered
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  Speaker 2: it the tenth time, it wouldn't have gone into forty
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  Speaker 2: two times.
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  Speaker 4: Fair.
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  Speaker 2: I was logic, but I just feel you on you
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  Speaker 2: on a cricket pitch you're playing.
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  Speaker 3: You can't get hold of me. You've seen I've seen
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  Speaker 3: that you called. I'll call you back.
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  Speaker 2: There's no, it doesn't there's no need for it to
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  Speaker 2: be forty two times. The anxiety as anyone at any age,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at your phone and you see that
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  Speaker 2: you've been called forty two times, you'd think there's something
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  Speaker 2: wrong someway.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's weird. I mean it would be weird for.
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  Speaker 3: Me, unless you think it's cute.
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  Speaker 4: No, there's no way that can be cute.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, one one eight nine four seven. Are we being too.
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  Speaker 4: Much old forty daddy?
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  Speaker 3: Oh exactly? Is this normal? Because there's another thing?
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  Speaker 2: People say, you need to move with the times. No, guys,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's good. I don't think I want
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  Speaker 2: anyone calling my child forty two times.
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  Speaker 3: Also because I don't call him forty two times.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, but that's because you are uncomfortable in being called
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  Speaker 5: forty two times. Your child might think it's fine because.
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  Speaker 6: Think about it this way, right, Teenagers live on their phones,
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  Speaker 6: So for a teenager to not be on their phone
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  Speaker 6: forty two calls later raise a suspicion, and that young
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  Speaker 6: lady knows something is a miss.
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  Speaker 3: So your child can't even go and do extra real activities.
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  Speaker 5: Here, she's just showing him that she loves him, and
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  Speaker 5: she called him forty two.
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  Speaker 6: It's excessive. I'm sad to say, though it doesn't stop.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a missing number six in the Five
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  Speaker 2: Languages of Love.
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  Speaker 3: Bombarding you with calls that.
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  Speaker 2: Too much nose it's a language then zero eight four
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  Speaker 2: double zero double zero nine four seven.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what I'm asking you, but.
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  Speaker 1: I would I would want to know from teenagers, right
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  Speaker 1: if someone called you forty two times, if you're a
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  Speaker 1: teenager and you're listening right now, would that be weird
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  Speaker 1: for you? Because I think it would be weird for me.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to know or is it normal? It's
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  Speaker 1: like a you know, they keep on trying until they
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  Speaker 1: come tower the phone.
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  Speaker 2: And as a parent, here's what I want to ask
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  Speaker 2: the parent, not the parent of the of the boy,
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  Speaker 2: the parent of the girl. If you knew that your
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  Speaker 2: daughter called somebody forty two times?
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  Speaker 3: Is that normal? Is is that normal?
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  Speaker 2: Are you like, oh, thumbs up with what they do?
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  Speaker 2: Or you like a ah, I need to sit her
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  Speaker 2: down and black my angel. I need to talk to
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  Speaker 2: you about restraint.
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  Speaker 1: Someone will get hold of you. It's yeah, when they
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  Speaker 1: are ready to get hold of you. It's an age
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  Speaker 1: old question. How many miscalls are too many? Miscalls?
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  Speaker 3: Forty two times?
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  Speaker 4: That is excessive with me. I would think that's just
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  Speaker 4: a bit too much, and I would tell them just
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  Speaker 4: don't call that much.
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  Speaker 3: Stalker, Morning guys, morning guys.
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  Speaker 4: Forty two times. I think that's forty times over The.
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  Speaker 3: Normal teenagers are still navigating this Jollo thing.
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  Speaker 6: It's still new to them, so they are probably going
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  Speaker 6: through something and she's probably panicking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the question that's exactly the question is
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  Speaker 1: is it too much? Because I think teenagers should answer
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  Speaker 1: this because we are using.
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  Speaker 4: Our perspective right very much.
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  Speaker 1: So I would never I don't think I've ever found
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  Speaker 1: someone forty two times, but even twice three times, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, you'll get back to me.
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  Speaker 4: When you get back to.
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  Speaker 2: Me, you know, can you go to your teenage child
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  Speaker 2: for us, please just go to them and you can
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  Speaker 2: record this on voice note or then you can ask
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  Speaker 2: the question and then report back to us on voice
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  Speaker 2: notes zero eight four double zero double zero nine four seven.
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  Speaker 3: Don't explain the story.
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  Speaker 2: Don't say just say, hey, is it normal for somebody
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  Speaker 2: to call you forty two times? To give you forty
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  Speaker 2: two miss calls? I want to hear what they have
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  Speaker 2: to say.
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  Speaker 1: Then yeah, it's you know what I wanted to ask
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  Speaker 1: that would it matter if it was forty two messages?
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  Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of teenagers don't see don't
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  Speaker 1: see social media the way we see social media. So
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  Speaker 1: for us it's like a thing and you open WhatsApp
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  Speaker 1: and but for them it's always been there. So for
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  Speaker 1: their messages, phone calls. Is it the same thing forty
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  Speaker 1: two from one person of messages calls? It is a lot.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Then it depends if they really love you. I think, O, no,
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  Speaker 5: it is, it is, but you've just got to ask
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  Speaker 5: why and if it's no, he so he she is
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  Speaker 5: crossed with me. Blah blah blah. So she called me
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  Speaker 5: forty two times. Okay, that's unhealthy. No, she's just it's
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  Speaker 5: a thing we do. We like show each other when
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  Speaker 5: we're apart from each other, we're thinking of each other.
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  Speaker 5: So we call forty two times, very different sides of
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  Speaker 5: the coin.
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  Speaker 3: Cameron, you been knowing you?
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  Speaker 7: Good morning, Hey guys, good morning.
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  Speaker 8: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: We're good, Cameron, how are you?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, don't complain, it's my audio. I'm busy driving.
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  Speaker 4: No, you're perfect.
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  Speaker 3: You can hear you.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, amazing. So this is similar to what you guys
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  Speaker 7: are chatting about. It's probably a little bit more toxic
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  Speaker 7: and advanced from this, But this is why I want
• 8:01
  Speaker 7: to chat about it, because I think something like getting
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  Speaker 7: fortitude less calls in your phone can maybe lead to
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  Speaker 7: to this. So we're Unfortunately my mess I was calling
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  Speaker 7: in right now but her daughter and my step daughter
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  Speaker 7: has a relationship with a guy in the US at
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  Speaker 7: the moment and it hasn't been going too well. But
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  Speaker 7: it's what I found out on Saturday is the phone
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  Speaker 7: is so toxic the relationship there, and the guy needs
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  Speaker 7: to know what she's doing every second that throughout our
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  Speaker 7: day in South African time, while he's fast asleep American time.
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  Speaker 7: She has to be on a video call the entire
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  Speaker 7: day while he sleeps.
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  Speaker 4: No no, no, no no no no no.
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  Speaker 7: No no, listen to this.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: So I made the mistake. She got a new phone,
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  Speaker 7: and I walked to the kitchen and I said, hey,
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  Speaker 7: can I see the phone. I picked it up and
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  Speaker 7: I saw this guy's face looking at me, and I
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  Speaker 7: was like, I was like, god, damn. I quickly put
• 9:01
  Speaker 7: it down. I don't know what happened there. And I
• 9:04
  Speaker 7: found out that she has to be on a video
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  Speaker 7: call the entire day. Look, it's extremely toxic and controlling
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  Speaker 7: and navigating this. But I spoke to a friend and
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  Speaker 7: I told him about it, and he went, You're like, oh, yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 7: that's all teenagers these days. His son's doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 7: And I was like, this is not normal. It's way
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  Speaker 7: beyond normal. Is I think it's coming from she's twenty four, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I mean she's a young woman. Yeah, But the anxiety
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  Speaker 7: she gets, I mean, we went out for dinner the
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  Speaker 7: other night. We were on our way home and we
• 9:41
  Speaker 7: said to you, if you don't mind just letting the
• 9:42
  Speaker 7: dogs out, and she let the dogs out, and he
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  Speaker 7: called during those five minutes, she never answered and he
• 9:51
  Speaker 7: lost his mind with her. So she gets us. The
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  Speaker 7: state of anxiety she lives in around her phone is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: And does she work? Does she study?
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  Speaker 2: How does she write an exam for like a two
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  Speaker 2: hour exam when she has to be.
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  Speaker 3: On video call to prove to where she is?
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  Speaker 7: So it's at the moment. She's a model. She models
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  Speaker 7: a lot in the US. She's back to do her visa.
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  Speaker 7: So but I can tell you now there's a lot
• 10:19
  Speaker 7: of things that are quite tricky. So obviously he's not
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  Speaker 7: a fan of her being a model. He's not a
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  Speaker 7: fan of her speaking to anyone. He's not a fan
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  Speaker 7: of her period or anything.
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  Speaker 2: He's not a fan of her period, and he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like her. And he's in the absence of love. He's
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  Speaker 2: decided he's going to control her.
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  Speaker 5: So my advice to you would be to get her
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  Speaker 5: to see somebody who can build her self esteem and
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  Speaker 5: give her the power to leave the relationship because his
• 10:45
  Speaker 5: low self worth and his low self esteem is forcing
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  Speaker 5: her to stay there. It's got nothing to do with
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  Speaker 5: how much he loves her and everything to do with
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  Speaker 5: the fear that she's going to leave him and he's going.
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  Speaker 7: To be rejected.
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  Speaker 5: So she just needs that love and support from some
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: You can reach out to me.
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  Speaker 7: And we've told her this. Unfortunately, Yeah, I'd love to
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  Speaker 7: you guys. We look, we have reached out and we're
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  Speaker 7: trying to get some out for but that can't come
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  Speaker 7: from us because yeah, I can't. Then she shuts down.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, the guy is on another level of dangerous
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  Speaker 7: and she just can't see it. But I just wanted
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  Speaker 7: you to be aware that it can stem from something
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  Speaker 7: as innocent as forty panic and that control over a phone,
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  Speaker 7: Like these kids really need to put their phones down
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  Speaker 7: and just I don't know, I think not be in
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  Speaker 7: this situation one day.
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  Speaker 4: I think for me.
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  Speaker 6: It's also reminded that, you know, we talk about abuse
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  Speaker 6: an adult lens, it can happen between children. It does,
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  Speaker 6: and this is literally the foundation we If that's how
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  Speaker 6: you are at let's say fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen,
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  Speaker 6: what else to really think of a teenage girl carrying
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  Speaker 6: the burden of Oh my boyfriend gets angry if I'm
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  Speaker 6: not on the phone what all day?
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  Speaker 4: Even as he sleeps?
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  Speaker 2: This is the genesis is that story? This goal is
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  Speaker 2: angry because you didn't answer the phone. For that's I
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  Speaker 2: want to call you forty two times. That can't be normal,
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  Speaker 2: very strange, cannot be normal. FI nine percent, my name
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  Speaker 2: is wile coming from a teenager.
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  Speaker 3: Forty two moss calls, That's that's that's too much. No,
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  Speaker 3: it's not normal. That's that's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's something wrong with that person, because like, why
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  Speaker 2: are you.
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  Speaker 3: Calling me forty two times? You couldn't leave the text messages.
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  Speaker 9: Now I'm not going on my phone and look at
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  Speaker 9: forty two miss because I'm not calling you back.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry. I don't think it's normal to call forty two
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  Speaker 2: times max two times.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sixteen years old.
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  Speaker 2: I think that a forty two miss calls is not
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  Speaker 2: normal because like, why would you call me forty two times?
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  Speaker 7: Forty two call sounds like the beginning of a Netflix documentary.
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  Speaker 1: Can I just say well done to all you teenagers
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  Speaker 1: who can recognize that that's not right?
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  Speaker 2: Because also, if my child thought that forty two miss
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  Speaker 2: calls was normal, I would have how much I love
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  Speaker 2: him because clearly he's thinking that that's that's love, And
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  Speaker 2: then I would take it upon myself. Then what did
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  Speaker 2: I do wrong where my child doesn't recognize what.
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  Speaker 3: Healthy love is.
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  Speaker 1: You would have to sit down with him and if
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  Speaker 1: he thinks that's normal to say, boy, this is not normal.
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  Speaker 2: This is not I don't want my child calling someone.
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  Speaker 3: Else's child twenty two times.
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  Speaker 2: And please mothers, if that ever happens, you call me immediately.
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  Speaker 3: Katie, you are inferred. And what do you think.
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  Speaker 9: I think I was the one person calling more than
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  Speaker 9: forty two times.
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  Speaker 2: More than forty Why I would I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I thought that this is how love should be. I
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  Speaker 9: told myself that if he doesn't see if it's not
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  Speaker 9: a hundred and ten, he doesn't see them miss called
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  Speaker 9: like they need to get your hundred and ten before
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  Speaker 9: he sees them.
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  Speaker 2: So APay, But okay, then you said you have to
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: work on yourself.
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  Speaker 3: How did you work on yourself. How do you work?
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  Speaker 3: How do you stop?
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  Speaker 9: I think it's it does. It goes through with a
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  Speaker 9: lot of yourself love you. You become in a relationship
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  Speaker 9: with somebody tells you a lot in love for anybody,
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  Speaker 9: and you realize the reflects a day, but you don't
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  Speaker 9: think them because what you are in love with this person.
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  Speaker 9: You see when the grand people grow up grainy and
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  Speaker 9: should not love you, you should not love a man, and
• 14:28
  Speaker 9: man should love you and you should respect.
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  Speaker 6: Mmm.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: Oh I know that, and I know ny Rihanna's even
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: said that as a woman, the man must love you more.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: That's the only way relationship survives when the man loves more.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Because women naturally.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Love, and we're naturally give us and we're naturally nurturius.
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  Speaker 2: So if you get yourself in a situation where you
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  Speaker 2: love the man.
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  Speaker 3: More, it's it's just, it's it's even, it's never gonna
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  Speaker 3: it's never gonna, never gonna be balanced.
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  Speaker 4: Is that what you're trying to do?
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  Speaker 1: Then when you're finding forty two because you feel that
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  Speaker 1: he is loving you more and you try to get
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  Speaker 1: him to love more.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very strange.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's one hundred and ten guys at
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: one hundred intent miss called expert vert a com to
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: come into my phone and.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Say you get alert warning message from yourself improvised.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: It's enough now, Hi, ma'm I'm calling from the votocom
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: call center.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: We know it's none of our business, but it's enough now.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: It is enough. Nicole, you in an Asia?
• 15:25
  Speaker 8: Hi, Lili?
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Are you good? Nicole? How are you good?
• 15:30
  Speaker 8: Thank you? So the first time around, welcome.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: That's the one time you've called us. You didn't even
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: call us forty two times one time? Okay, what do
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: you think?
• 15:41
  Speaker 8: So? I think it's ridiculous. So I just have this
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: thing where I'll try and phone somebody, and I've always
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: done this. I'll try and phone somebody once I lift
• 15:51
  Speaker 8: the phone, drinks three times. If a person doesn't answer,
• 15:53
  Speaker 8: obviously they're busy or you know, they can't answer. Yeah,
• 15:57
  Speaker 8: I really put the phone down. That other person obviously
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: seen that you tried calling in right, So if they
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: want to speak to you, they're definitely going to call
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: you back. And if they don't, think clearly they don't,
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: they don't want to m So yeah forty two times, no, no, no, no, no,
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: that's news site party.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look, we all agree. I think forty two is ridiculous, Nichol.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I just want to say, if you phone three times,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: you probably miss me every time, because it takes me
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: more than three rings.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: To usually get to my phone because.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Frank has to put his burger.
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: Down, right, If you wanted to speak to you, call back.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll call you once, right, and then I'll drop
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: your message and say to tell you whether it's urgent
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: or not, because.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: He has another thing. If you see my call, I
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: don't and it's not urgent.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to get to me first, like, hey,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: not urgent when you can't give me a ring. But
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: if I'm like, hey, praising issue, give me a ring
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: as soon as you can, please, Like in the message,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I'll say I will rate my own level of important
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: of the call, like don't get.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: To me first.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: This is not, you know, urgent, But forty two times.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad the kids of the city have verified
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: that we are not being archaic. We're not being in
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: my day. It's just not on.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had to because that's the thing in this conversation.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: We had to check ourselves.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, come here thinking I'm right.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is this how people are navigating, teenagers are navigating
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: social media and calls and all these things now. So
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad to know that this normal, normalcy day,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: it's back
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: To making your morning in La and the Club on
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: nine four seven