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Speaker 1: It's the Gold Report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight. How did the Prime Minister laugh and let activist
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Speaker 2: Grace tame whin I've seen slogan to a strand of
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Speaker 2: the year function. Also more terrible polls for labor, the
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Speaker 2: rise and rise of just internaverage price as well. But
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Speaker 2: does a new promotion spell danger? And the new golf war?
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Speaker 2: How Donald Trump bullied Columbia into surrender over a round
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Speaker 2: of golf and plenty more. But first to understand why
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albinezi is sinking like a stone. More terrible polls today,
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Speaker 2: You just need to look at the National Australia ceremony yesterday.
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Speaker 2: It was the most woke and weak and divisive I
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Speaker 2: have ever seen. And I'm going to show you scenes
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Speaker 2: in a minute that show would embarrassment it was, and
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Speaker 2: seeing the Prime Minister there, I think no wonder this
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Speaker 2: country is tired of his division. In fact, for Alberenezi,
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Speaker 2: the whole weekend was a disaster, awoke, binfire. Now Albanese
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Speaker 2: was already in deep trouble as you drove to this
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Speaker 2: national Citizenship and flag Racing ceremony in Cambri yesterday. The
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Speaker 2: latest resolved poll had just shown that Peter Dutton's coalition
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Speaker 2: was now four points ahead of Labor, it's biggest lead
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Speaker 2: yet and today's news pulses for the first time many
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Speaker 2: voters think the coalition is going to beat Labor at
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Speaker 2: the election, probably in April. Now that is true that
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Speaker 2: Australians are worried most about the cost of living, inflation, eletriacity, prices, housing,
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Speaker 2: but there is also rising disgust now with the division
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Speaker 2: we see the explosion under Anthony Albanesi of due hatred
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Speaker 2: of tribalism, of Aboriginal extremism, or this hatred of Australia
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Speaker 2: that we saw in the Invasion Day protests on the weekend.
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Speaker 2: Several statues destroyed, including Melvin founder John Batman, Statues to
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Speaker 2: Captain Cook and our Fallen Soldiers also to faced with
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Speaker 2: painted slogan's calling for Australia's destruction, memorials to fallen police,
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Speaker 2: one of them defaced and pro pacing. The extremes joining
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Speaker 2: so called Invasion Day protests yesterday calling for an end
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Speaker 2: of both Israel and Australia. One protests are even warned
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Speaker 2: whites to watch out and even worse. One speaker in
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Speaker 2: Melbourne seemed to me to imply violence maybe necessary now
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Speaker 2: to make all this worse, alben Easy in this horror weekend,
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Speaker 2: actually let themselves be photographed on Saturday before it was
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Speaker 2: laughing and shaking the hand of former stranded the great
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Speaker 2: statement an official function at the lodge as Tame wore
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Speaker 2: a T shirt with F.
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Speaker 3: Murdoch reliving memories, Yeah, reliving stern.
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Speaker 2: Now, a serious leader or even his staff would have
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Speaker 2: told that brat to go home and get changed. I
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Speaker 2: mean that language is totally inappropriate at a prime ministerial event,
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Speaker 2: and especially one that was supposed to be for the
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Speaker 2: latest austrains of the year, not an advertisement to you,
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Speaker 2: an opportunity for Grace's team to let out her far
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Speaker 2: left passions. Now only today, under pressure did Albanize he
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Speaker 2: criticize Thame's crude stunt.
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Speaker 4: I thought it was disrespectful.
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Speaker 2: So whatever, I mean a bit late, but here was
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Speaker 2: another example of this culture of hatred and division that's
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Speaker 2: just erupted under Albenize's leadership. Now, to be fair to
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister, I do think he now realizes ministrainers
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Speaker 2: have had a gupful of this tribalism. I mean just look, yes,
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Speaker 2: today the so called invasion Day protests were half the
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Speaker 2: size of last years. Apoulchow also a big jump in
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Speaker 2: Australians saying they support Australia Day. So Albinizey actually did
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Speaker 2: turn up so this national flag raising for Australia yesterday,
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Speaker 2: thinking you better give a speech praising Australia, and this
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Speaker 2: time without a word of criticism. And this man who
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three had tried to device us by
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Speaker 2: racing the constitution, this time he had a very different message.
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Speaker 4: We're all part of a nation built by hope and
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Speaker 4: hard work, aspiration and determination, a democracy where every citizen
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Speaker 4: counts themselves as equal, a society where your character counts
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Speaker 4: for more than your name, where your hard work matters
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Speaker 4: more than where you come from.
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Speaker 2: Good message, but far too late. Whoever organized this ceremony
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Speaker 2: clearly didn't get the this new message. The National Ceremony
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Speaker 2: actually screened the exact opposite that in Anthony Albanize's Australia.
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Speaker 2: You are judged by your tribe, not as an individual
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Speaker 2: or by your work, and some tribes are actually more
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Speaker 2: equal than others. Let me show you no fewer than
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Speaker 2: four speakers at this national ceremony each gave long acknowledgements
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Speaker 2: to the traditional owners. These are just excerpts.
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Speaker 4: I begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of the land
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Speaker 4: on which we're meeting, and I pay my respect to elders, past,
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Speaker 4: present and emerging.
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Speaker 5: Of course, I acknowledge that today we gather on the
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Speaker 5: lands of the traditional custodians than none of all people.
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Speaker 6: I begin by acknowledging the nune of all people as
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Speaker 6: traditional custodians of the land we are meeting on.
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Speaker 1: I acknowledge the traditional custodians.
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Speaker 2: Now. The MC and ABC weathermen also told us to
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Speaker 2: remember the pain of white settlement.
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Speaker 6: We reflect on the ongoing impact of European settlement on
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Speaker 6: Australia's first people, along with the myriad international cultures that
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Speaker 6: have found their home here.
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Speaker 2: And on it went. A traditional owner gave a welcome
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Speaker 2: to country, actually suggesting that non Aboriginal Australians were strangers
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Speaker 2: in their own country and needed Aboriginal permission to visit
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Speaker 2: their national capital.
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Speaker 5: Poor entering another person's country, you always announce your arrived
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Speaker 5: and not andrew until you were asked to do so
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Speaker 5: by an order or traditional owner. As in the white
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Speaker 5: men's world. You wouldn't want your neighbor or total stranger
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Speaker 5: entering your home or yard. We had out first hous
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Speaker 5: and permission to do so.
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Speaker 2: Naturally, three flags were raised, including two race.
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Speaker 3: Ones, the two Aboriginal flags and two Torres Strait Island
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Speaker 3: of flags are being carried on by people representing first
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Speaker 3: nations across the continent, from Sibei, Badu, Korareg Arab and
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Speaker 3: Thursday Islands in the northernmost part of Australia to the
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Speaker 3: southernmost mob.
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Speaker 2: Anthem was even sung in an Aboriginal language.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Newly sworn citizens were then given a certificate of official arrival
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Speaker 2: and Aboriginal gifts as well by three Aborigines, one of
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Speaker 2: them in a T shirt saying I see deadly people.
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Speaker 2: It was no wonder that this ultra woke three flag ceremony,
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Speaker 2: this wallowing in race guilts and racial division, attracted probably
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Speaker 2: no more than two hundred and fifty spectators. Remember this
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Speaker 2: was the national flag raising, and most of those people
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Speaker 2: actually had to be there. There were politicians or they
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Speaker 2: diplomats or relatives of the performers. So I could not
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Speaker 2: believe ALBINIZI yesterday actually trying to make opposition leader Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton seem unpatriotic by not being there.
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Speaker 4: Himself national Australia Day events. I should be attended by
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Speaker 4: both sides of the Parliament. They should be biparts.
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Speaker 2: So where was this unpatriotic Peter Dutton. Well, as usual,
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Speaker 2: he was at the Australia Ceremony in his own electorate
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Speaker 2: down to Worth One. Back to basics now. I don't
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Speaker 2: know how often this government needs to be told before
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Speaker 2: it understands the age of woke is over. Most Australians
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Speaker 2: now hate the division, the identity politics, the ethnic politics
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Speaker 2: that the left is promoted, and that pathetic Australia a
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Speaker 2: ceremony yesterday helps to show why and why Albanezi now
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Speaker 2: looks like a one term leader now, with the Albanize
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Speaker 2: governed on the nose, voters furious about the cost of living,
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Speaker 2: you can better one thing. Labor getting so desperate this
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Speaker 2: election that it will go very hard and personal against
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Speaker 2: the opposition leader Peter Dutton. In fact, you've probably seen
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Speaker 2: already attacks on how Dutton looks, how it looks scary,
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Speaker 2: one attack even on his wife. The Liberals today try
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Speaker 2: to get ahead of this by releasing video designed for
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Speaker 2: social media to introduce the nicet the former policeman to
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Speaker 2: soften him, but without denying he could make tough decisions,
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Speaker 2: tough decisions for tough times.
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Speaker 7: As a minister, I learned at a strong economy and a
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Speaker 7: safe community are central to everything that you sometimes need
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Speaker 7: to stand up to vested interests and always make decisions
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Speaker 7: in our national interest. The right decisions aren't always popular,
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Speaker 7: but I'm not interested in taking me easy passed because
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Speaker 7: we lived in the best country in the world and
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Speaker 7: I'm determined to get Australia back on track.
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Speaker 2: Joining me is the panel Michael Kroger, former Victorian Liberal President,
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Speaker 2: David Elliott Foreman, New South Wales Liberal Minister. Michael, what
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Speaker 2: is this ad trying to do and will it work?
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Speaker 8: Well, it's trying to explain to people more about who
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Speaker 8: Peter Dutton is. I mean, you'd be surprised to hear,
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Speaker 8: but most people probably don't know who's an expoliceman. They
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Speaker 8: probably don't know who's a small business owner. So it's
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Speaker 8: just trying to broaden people's knowledge of Peter Dutton. Will
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Speaker 8: it work, Yes, it'll work, It won't it won't. It
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Speaker 8: certainly won't harm. But the attack by Alberenezi on Dutton
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Speaker 8: personally is it's a different era from twenty two when
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Speaker 8: they work brilliantly against Scott Morrison. We're now in a
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Speaker 8: different era where people can't afford it buy food, so
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Speaker 8: they're not the slightest bit interested in tax on Peter
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Speaker 8: Dutton or his wife. If they're attacking Dutton's policy is fine,
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Speaker 8: but personal tax on Peter Dutton and his family are
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Speaker 8: going to backfire badly on Labor. And if they think
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Speaker 8: that's the way to win government again, they've got another
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Speaker 8: thing coming.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Well, David Elliott. I mean a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 2: Labor was openly saying Peter Dutt was unelectable. Did they
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Speaker 2: misjudge or has he changed or have the times changed
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Speaker 2: to suit him?
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Speaker 9: Well, I remember when they said John Howard was missus
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Speaker 9: seventeen percent so and we laughed at the thought of
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Speaker 9: Bob Carr being elected premier. So yes, times do change.
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Speaker 9: But Peter Dutton, I mean Australians at the moment are
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Speaker 9: looking for a strong leader. They're seeing a national security
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Speaker 9: and domestic security, whether it be attacks on the Jewish
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Speaker 9: community or the situation in the Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: They're looking for strong leaders at the.
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Speaker 9: Moment, and Dutton's got that. I don't think that there
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Speaker 9: is a person in any parliament in Australia or the
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Speaker 9: commonwealthware he's not seen as the league candidate when it
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Speaker 9: comes to national security and the strength of the strength
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Speaker 9: of our intelligence agencies. So this is all about making
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Speaker 9: sure that we know, yeah, even cops have got mums.
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Speaker 9: This is about making sure that the community knows even
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Speaker 9: police officers have got kids, and that Peter you know,
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Speaker 9: I'll give you tip. He has been a marginal seattholder
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Speaker 9: and nothing gives you community empathy more than knowing that
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Speaker 9: every vote that you talk to, every issue that's raised,
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Speaker 9: every person that has a concern or a problem, could
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Speaker 9: be the one that determines the outcome of the next election.
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Speaker 9: So I think you're going to find that Peter Perfect's
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Speaker 9: going to come up trumps when it comes to making
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Speaker 9: sure that people know that he's actually a dad and
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Speaker 9: a husband.
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Speaker 2: Michael Dave, you mentioned they're the Jew hatred, which it's
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Speaker 2: just I think Anthony ALBINIZI actually knows is in real
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Speaker 2: trouble for letting this issue blow up without any effective
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Speaker 2: action for so long. Today he promised to spend more
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Speaker 2: than four million dollars to build a Holocaust center in
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Speaker 2: Canberra to fight it.
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Speaker 4: He is, and it's important that any Semitism be opposed
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Speaker 4: in all of its forms, and it's important here in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Now, Michael, I actually think this is just tokenism. This
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Speaker 2: is my own opinion. I mean, every state capital already
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Speaker 2: has a Holocaust museum or a Holocaust center. Hope that's
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Speaker 2: still building, I've got to say. And once one more
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Speaker 2: in Canberra, I think changes nothing when we've got lots
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Speaker 2: of immigration from the Middle East and the government pandering
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Speaker 2: to it but rapeiatedly attacking Israel. But what do you
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Speaker 2: make of this call?
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Speaker 8: Well, I welcome his announcement and I think the fact
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Speaker 8: that so many young people these days aren't aware of
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Speaker 8: what happened during the Holocaust is shocking. So I welcome
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Speaker 8: the fact that he's going to fund a center in
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Speaker 8: Canberra tod to the other centers. I think more education
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Speaker 8: about what happened to the Holocaust is only welcome. But
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Speaker 8: at the same time he sends Penny Wong to Auschwitz.
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Speaker 8: I mean, this guy just doesn't get it for every one,
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Speaker 8: for everyone. Thing he does where he tries to have empathy,
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Speaker 8: he does ten things in the other direction. He doesn't
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Speaker 8: get it, he doesn't understand it, and it's going to
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Speaker 8: work very badly for him at the election.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think talking about Alschwitz is not going to
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Speaker 2: help the you know, the Duke stem the due hatred
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Speaker 2: as much as stopping the anti Israel talk right now,
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Speaker 2: the present rather than the history of the past is
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Speaker 2: what we need to address, David. Peter Dutton last weekend
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Speaker 2: announced the reshuffle of his front bench. Now, for me,
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Speaker 2: the best the most important move ahead of this election
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Speaker 2: is promoting the coalition's most popular politician, Senators Intern Brice.
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Speaker 2: I read a couple of articles the manning that she
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Speaker 2: be promoted to an additional frontline job which has got
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Speaker 2: targeting government waste. Now, David, I think this is good,
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Speaker 2: but I've got to say this is going to be
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Speaker 2: a huge challenge for her because it means she's got
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Speaker 2: to talk about the waste in portfolios of other shadow ministers,
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Speaker 2: all of whom are more senior to her, some of her,
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Speaker 2: some of whom are jealous of her. How do you
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Speaker 2: think she's going to go?
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Speaker 9: She should be great because she has been empowered just center.
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Speaker 9: She has been empowered by the electorate.
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Speaker 2: She feels that level.
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Speaker 9: Of confidence that only comes when you've when you've won
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Speaker 9: a referendum campaign, which she did hands down. I mean,
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Speaker 9: she's had a fair bit of political experience before she
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Speaker 9: came into into the Senate representing the Northern territory, so
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Speaker 9: I think that she'll draw on a little bit of
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Speaker 9: that local government experience.
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Speaker 2: That she had before she was elected.
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Speaker 9: But she's also got that most important of asset when
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Speaker 9: it comes to being a shadow minister, and that's the
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Speaker 9: blessing of the leader. And I think anybody that wants
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Speaker 9: to play up and set aside any of the economic
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Speaker 9: rationalism that just Center is no doubt going to be
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Speaker 9: bringing down, we'll just have to look over their shoulder,
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Speaker 9: because I suspect there'll be a black name done looking
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Speaker 9: over it.
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Speaker 2: Well. I think you make a really good point there, David.
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Speaker 2: Have to you know, I think she needs more than
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Speaker 2: the impromateur. She's only a first term senator for a start,
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Speaker 2: and I reckon this is only going to get work
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Speaker 2: if she's you know, not just backs here are one
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Speaker 2: hundred percent and seen to do that. But also gives
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Speaker 2: to the staff the expertise the people who know and
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Speaker 2: to actually help her formulate this attack on waste, because
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Speaker 2: Dunton would know where the waste is better than a
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Speaker 2: first term senator. But still I think this is a
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Speaker 2: great risk worth taking Michael Dunton's coalition despite all this, right,
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Speaker 2: he's got to win so many seats at the election
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Speaker 2: that most experts here have given the Coalition virtually no
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Speaker 2: chance have been in government until now. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: think that's changed. Albany is he has started his campaign
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Speaker 2: badly this year. Today's News poll has his net popularity
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Speaker 2: still plummeting his unpopularity now fifty seven percent and the
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Speaker 2: coalition head a fifth of labor fifty one percent to
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Speaker 2: forty nine Nationally Victoria, though, you just saw a poll
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Speaker 2: this weekend of the state labor government, which is a disgrace.
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Speaker 2: Just one in five voters now choosing labor first. I
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Speaker 2: know it's on the state government. Well one in five
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Speaker 2: only choosing labor first. What chance do you think that
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Speaker 2: gives Peter are becoming prime minister this year?
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Speaker 8: Oh, very good chance. It's got similarities, Victoria now has
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Speaker 8: got great similarities in ninety ninety when the Coalition won
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Speaker 8: nine seats Andrew picked up one nine seats from later
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Speaker 8: at that election. I've got a winning three or four,
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Speaker 8: but could easily be six or seven. So labor are
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Speaker 8: in serious trouble in Victoria, and as you know, I
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Speaker 8: think one of the reasons is these Palestinian demonstrations have
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Speaker 8: upset the whole state. People are sick of all this.
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Speaker 8: The anti semity is in Victoria has been shocking in
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Speaker 8: New South Wales, which is one of the reasons those
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Speaker 8: two states are problems for labor. The best thing labor
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Speaker 8: could do in Victoria is dump the premier to Cindra
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Speaker 8: Allen now before the state election and make a fresh
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Speaker 8: start with it, Deputy Ben Carroll. They won't do that,
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Speaker 8: but the state labor government, particularly just Cindra Allen here
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Speaker 8: is a huge millstone around Albanese's neck and he's unpopular
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Speaker 8: enough as it is, but it's the state labor government
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Speaker 8: in Victoria that's causing so much damage to Albanisi. And
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Speaker 8: unless they do something to arrest that client, it might
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Speaker 8: not be three or four cents Victoria cold HEAs would
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Speaker 8: be six or seven, including seats like Bruce. We've got
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Speaker 8: where we've got a great, great young candidate. So it's
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Speaker 8: causing immense damage to labor and that an't seem to
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Speaker 8: be able to do anything about it.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Michael Craig and David Elliott, thank you very much
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Speaker 2: to you both. You know, it's not even a week,
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Speaker 2: not even a week since Donald Trump was sworn as
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Speaker 2: US president, but it's already shown just now why world
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Speaker 2: leaders cross him at their peril. Now, as promised that,
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Speaker 2: Trump has been already started having some of America's ten
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Speaker 2: million illegal immigrants arrested, many criminals in the so far
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Speaker 2: and flowing back to where they came from. But Columbia's
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Speaker 2: very left wing president Gustavo Petro turned back two military
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Speaker 2: flights from the US that the first agree to let
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Speaker 2: in after hearing that people on board were handcuffed and
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Speaker 2: denied toilets. Well, bang, I mean, Trump immediately posted that
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Speaker 2: he would hit Columbia with twenty five percent tariffs on
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Speaker 2: his exports because of this, rising to fifty percent in
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Speaker 2: a week if it didn't back down, plus other sanctions. Now,
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Speaker 2: mind you, if you think that Trump sounds a little
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Speaker 2: bit wild, here, you check the Columbian president Petro's reaction.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy. Go and this is probably
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Speaker 2: the sanest bit of what he wrote back, I don't
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Speaker 2: like your oil. Trump. You're going to wipe out the
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Speaker 2: human species because of greed. You will kill me, But
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Speaker 2: I will survive in my people, which is before yours
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Speaker 2: in the Americas. We are the peoples of the winds,
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Speaker 2: the mountains, the Caribbean Sea, and of freedom. If you
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Speaker 2: don't like our freedom, okay, I don't shake hands with
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Speaker 2: white slavers. But for all that nonsense, there was only
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Speaker 2: hoursolated the White House an ounce to Columbia completely back down.
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Speaker 2: Flights would resume, joining mister the country's top foreign affairs
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Speaker 2: right to Greg Sheridan of the Australian Great to see you.
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Speaker 2: What does this conflict tell you? Great?
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Speaker 10: To be with you, Andrew. Well, you know, for all
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Speaker 10: the blavscuiding about Trump defying international norms, one of the
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Speaker 10: most basic international norms is that you have to accept
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Speaker 10: your citizens back. You know, there's hardly been a moment
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Speaker 10: in history ever where Australia has refused to accept a
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Speaker 10: citizen of Australia back. So a Colombian illegal immigrant to
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Speaker 10: America to the United States who has entered the United
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Speaker 10: States illegally and who is in the United States illegally
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Speaker 10: and is returned to their country. That's entirely orderly, that's
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Speaker 10: completely within the norms and practice of international behavior. So
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Speaker 10: it's a Colombian president who has defied international norms here.
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Speaker 10: But it was such a bizarre thing to do, because
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Speaker 10: you know, the United States is the eight thousand pound
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Speaker 10: gorilla of the American hemisphere. And why would you pick
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Speaker 10: a great, big fight with the the state's president over
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Speaker 10: a few Colombian criminals because they couldn't get to the
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Speaker 10: bathroom on a couple of hours flight or something of
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Speaker 10: The whole thing.
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Speaker 2: Is too ridiculous for words.
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Speaker 10: And of course, you know he got squatted like a
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Speaker 10: fly by Trump. You'd almost think that Trump paid him
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Speaker 10: to do it. You know, it just reinforces Trump's strength.
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Speaker 10: That makes the guy look like an idiot.
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Speaker 2: Well, later in the show, show a couple of delicious
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Speaker 2: details about how Trump managed to do this in just
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Speaker 2: a couple of holes of golf, believe it or not.
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Speaker 2: But Trump set off more seriously, Trump set off another
21:34
Speaker 2: almost literally here bomb really in the Middle East by
21:38
Speaker 2: suggesting what sounds sounds would sound to many people reasonably obvious.
21:43
Speaker 2: You look at the ruins in Gaza. Now after the
21:45
Speaker 2: war with Israel that mass actually started, Trump told reporters
21:49
Speaker 2: on a plane he wanted Jordan in Egypt, which border Israel,
21:53
Speaker 2: to let Palestinians from Gaza come live with them instead.
21:59
Speaker 2: I said to John, I'd.
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Speaker 11: Love you to take God more because I'm looking at
22:03
Speaker 11: the whole Gaza strip right now, and it's a mask.
22:06
Speaker 11: You're talking about probably a million and a half people,
22:10
Speaker 11: and we just clean out that whole thing. It's literally
22:14
Speaker 11: a demolition site right now. Almost everything's demolished and people
22:18
Speaker 11: are dying there. So I'd rather get involved with some
22:22
Speaker 11: of the Arab nations that built housing at a different
22:26
Speaker 11: location where they could maybe leave it pace too.
22:30
Speaker 2: Greg He didn't say he'd forced people to get Palestins
22:33
Speaker 2: to leave. He didn't say they would all leave. But
22:36
Speaker 2: it's being accused of ethnic cleansing, clearer clearing Gaza for
22:40
Speaker 2: Israel's take over and more. What do you make of this?
22:46
Speaker 10: Well, I think it's a bit messy and a bit complicated.
22:49
Speaker 10: So I one thousand percent beck Israel's right to defend itself.
22:53
Speaker 10: In one thousand percent, see Hamas is the villain in
22:57
Speaker 10: all this, no doubt, about it. But the weakness in
22:59
Speaker 10: israel position, I think, is that they haven't given us
23:02
Speaker 10: any idea at all of what they expect the post
23:06
Speaker 10: conflict governance of Gaza to be, and so far in
23:10
Speaker 10: this ceasefire, Hummas seems to have roared back into power.
23:14
Speaker 2: Now that's not.
23:15
Speaker 10: Israel's fault, but Israel as a responsible power, has to
23:19
Speaker 10: give an idea eventually of what they expect governance in
23:22
Speaker 10: Gaza to be. Now, it's not paranoid for the Palestinian
23:29
Speaker 10: folks to feel they shouldn't be forced.
23:31
Speaker 2: Out of their homeland.
23:32
Speaker 10: However, it's equally quite right that no one should stop
23:36
Speaker 10: them from emigrating if they want to. I mean, on
23:39
Speaker 10: the one hand, you know, the Alberanesi government was taking
23:42
Speaker 10: people from Gaza and on the other hand decrying any
23:47
Speaker 10: movement of the population from Gaza. So I think if
23:50
Speaker 10: Trump is saying, you know, people from Gaza should be
23:54
Speaker 10: free to emigrate to regional nations which would like to
23:57
Speaker 10: take them, that's absolutely fine as usual with Trump, though
24:01
Speaker 10: he didn't make what he was saying completely clear. And
24:06
Speaker 10: you know, it is the beloved dream of some very
24:10
Speaker 10: far right wing people in Israel that they simply force
24:14
Speaker 10: the Palestinians to leave Gaza, and I don't think for
24:19
Speaker 10: all atrocities of Hamas, I don't think that's reasonable either.
24:24
Speaker 2: Except, of course, the last thing Jordan wants it even
24:26
Speaker 2: more Palestinians in order is the Egypt. But on the
24:30
Speaker 2: other hand, Greg, if I was living in Gaza and
24:32
Speaker 2: I'm seeing these hummus gun and emerge again from the
24:35
Speaker 2: sewers to take control, I'd want to leave as well.
24:38
Speaker 2: So I think there is also that aspect. How do
24:41
Speaker 2: you see, though, I mean, this is so trumpy, and
24:43
Speaker 2: it's like him calling the premise of Denmark and saying
24:48
Speaker 2: I want Greenland. I want Greenland to take Greenland from you.
24:52
Speaker 2: How do you see Trump's style, which is asking for
24:55
Speaker 2: as much as he thinks he can get away with
24:57
Speaker 2: and something for less and Trump's po How do you
25:00
Speaker 2: think that's now going to change Australia's politics.
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Speaker 10: Well, that's a fascinating question, Andrew, and you know I've
25:09
Speaker 10: written about this at some length tomorrow. One big question
25:12
Speaker 10: is how much cultural change will accompany the political change
25:16
Speaker 10: in America and in New Zealand and in Canada.
25:20
Speaker 2: That's just around the corner.
25:22
Speaker 10: I think people were fed up with woke and we're
25:26
Speaker 10: rebelling against those values.
25:28
Speaker 2: That's true.
25:28
Speaker 10: Although Trump had a pretty narrow election win forty nine
25:31
Speaker 10: and a half percent to forty eight percent, and people,
25:37
Speaker 10: although they were repudiating those values to some extent, they
25:41
Speaker 10: were voting mainly on core issues inflation's standard of living,
25:45
Speaker 10: all the rest. If Trump succeeds there, they'll go with
25:48
Speaker 10: him on those values issues. Now his international style, everything
25:54
Speaker 10: is a negotiation and so on. It has its strength
25:56
Speaker 10: and its weaknesses. And the difficulty with evaluating Trump is
26:00
Speaker 10: that they're always positives and they're always negatives. So he
26:03
Speaker 10: has maximum flexibility in a negotiation. That gives him a
26:07
Speaker 10: lot of strength. On the other hand, it creates a
26:10
Speaker 10: great deal of unreliability in the strategic space. I frankly
26:14
Speaker 10: at this stage, cannot interpret what he's doing with TikTok.
26:18
Speaker 10: The American Congress voted to ban TikTok unless it's seven
26:21
Speaker 10: it's connections with the Chinese for national security reasons. Now
26:25
Speaker 10: Trump is saying TikTok is okay provided one of his
26:29
Speaker 10: buddies owns fifty percent of it. But the Chinese have
26:31
Speaker 10: said they keep the algorithm so they get all the
26:34
Speaker 10: security data they want from the American population and they
26:37
Speaker 10: keep distorting the news. Well that's an example, i'd say,
26:41
Speaker 10: of Trump doing a deal which may suit you know,
26:44
Speaker 10: in some ways, but I think it's pretty dubious. On
26:47
Speaker 10: the other hand, he gets a lot of good results
26:50
Speaker 10: out of deals. He got the Abraham Accords that they
26:52
Speaker 10: are absolutely fantastic historically achievements. So he's a bit plus
26:57
Speaker 10: and a bit minus.
26:58
Speaker 2: I think, you know, well, I've got an even bigger
27:02
Speaker 2: worry about his attitudes towards Ukraine, to be honest, But
27:04
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan, thank you so much for your time. Later
27:08
Speaker 2: in the show, like I said, I'm going to show
27:09
Speaker 2: you amazing details of how Donald Trump intimidated Columbia from
27:13
Speaker 2: a golf course and how quickly Columbia surrendered. But first,
27:17
Speaker 2: after the break, stunning proof that the Albertizi government is
27:21
Speaker 2: risking tens of billions of your dollars by investing in
27:24
Speaker 2: wind and sol that just when the markets are crashing
27:28
Speaker 2: and investors are stampeding, here we have the Albanize government,
27:38
Speaker 2: say government's two spending tens and tens hundreds of billions
27:42
Speaker 2: of dollars on this green energy of revolution, right replacing
27:45
Speaker 2: cole with wind and sol that I want to now
27:49
Speaker 2: show you frightening figures, frightening figures from the biggest financial
27:55
Speaker 2: market for renewable energy that will tell you that we
28:00
Speaker 2: are We have governments splashing this money on solar wind
28:05
Speaker 2: just when private investors are heading for the hills, thinking
28:08
Speaker 2: we've lost so much money, this is a terrible investment.
28:12
Speaker 2: They're freaking you. Check the prices for solar energy stocks
28:16
Speaker 2: in the US over the four years since Joe Budden
28:18
Speaker 2: was elected president and promised a green energy revolution. In
28:23
Speaker 2: that time, with all the subsidies he was throwing out it,
28:27
Speaker 2: solar stocks have instead dropped on nearly three quarters in value.
28:33
Speaker 2: The wind energy sector that's down nearly thirty percent. In contrast,
28:40
Speaker 2: nuclear stocks have instead jumped more than doubled in value. Nuclear,
28:46
Speaker 2: not wind, and solar is seen as the fuel of
28:50
Speaker 2: the future. Yet our government is promising to spend hundreds
28:55
Speaker 2: of billions of dollars of your taxes on renewables and
28:59
Speaker 2: other sort of things like that. Just splashing your money
29:03
Speaker 2: against a rickety wall joining me is the manifest warmly
29:07
Speaker 2: This started last year. Steve Gorham is the executive director
29:11
Speaker 2: of the Climate Science Covalition of America and an advisor
29:13
Speaker 2: to the Heartland Institute. His latest book is Green Breakdown,
29:18
Speaker 2: The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. Steve Gorham, thank you so
29:23
Speaker 2: much for joining us again. What do these figures tell
29:27
Speaker 2: us about our government's plans to replace coal with wind
29:31
Speaker 2: and solar to power and economy and also to ban nuclear.
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Speaker 12: Andrew great to join you again the happy New Year. Yeah, well,
29:41
Speaker 12: we have many leaders around the world that are trying
29:43
Speaker 12: to do this, so trying to put in green energy
29:45
Speaker 12: sources of course, wind and solar and batteries and get
29:49
Speaker 12: rid of traditional power plants. But those efforts are just
29:54
Speaker 12: running into more and more problems. As we talked about
29:58
Speaker 12: last time I was on, the stock prices of renewable
30:01
Speaker 12: equipment companies are just plunging all over the world. For example,
30:05
Speaker 12: the top seven solar companies in the world are based
30:10
Speaker 12: in China, and their stock prices are all down in
30:12
Speaker 12: the last four years. We just had President Trump sign
30:18
Speaker 12: an executive order to stop all offshore leasing in the
30:23
Speaker 12: United States for offshore wind and so and most of
30:27
Speaker 12: these are European companies, so all of their stock prices
30:29
Speaker 12: went down immediately. And we're just having ev companies or
30:33
Speaker 12: another problem as well. Tesla is the one exception. They
30:36
Speaker 12: have grown to a trillion dollar company, but just about
30:40
Speaker 12: every other electric vehicle company in the world is losing money.
30:44
Speaker 12: I think there's one exception or two in China that
30:47
Speaker 12: are doing okay. But these green equipment businesses, despite massive
30:52
Speaker 12: subsidies in the United States and many other nations, they're
30:56
Speaker 12: just doing very, very poorly.
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Speaker 2: So what lessons should our government take from this? I mean,
31:03
Speaker 2: we've got the money walking away or running away from
31:07
Speaker 2: these sectors. You see the price drops. I mean it's
31:10
Speaker 2: just unbelievable. You now see Donald Trump saying he's going
31:14
Speaker 2: to pull America out of the Parents Agreement. The cut
31:16
Speaker 2: of missions is going to you know, limit offshore wind projects,
31:22
Speaker 2: is going to go a drill, baby drill for gas.
31:27
Speaker 2: When we see all this happening, what should a government
31:30
Speaker 2: like ours conclude?
31:33
Speaker 12: Well, again, all of this, of course is based on
31:36
Speaker 12: the fear of man made claimate change, and many government
31:43
Speaker 12: leaders have been told that if we all drive electric
31:45
Speaker 12: vehicles and we put up wind turbines everywhere, we can
31:47
Speaker 12: stop the oceans from rising, we can make the storms
31:50
Speaker 12: less severe. Those conclusions are very, very skeptical, very very
31:56
Speaker 12: tenuous that this is going to happen. As a matter
32:00
Speaker 12: of fact, a simple fact is that wind and solar
32:05
Speaker 12: requires one hundred times the land area of a traditional
32:09
Speaker 12: coal or nuclear or natural gas plant. One hundred times
32:13
Speaker 12: a land area, even if you count all the mines
32:15
Speaker 12: and pipelines and everything else. And so people just don't
32:19
Speaker 12: want this anymore. The leaders continuing to push this, with
32:22
Speaker 12: the exception of mister Trump and a few others, but
32:25
Speaker 12: the local people just don't want all the things are
32:28
Speaker 12: involved with the wind, solar and batteries.
32:33
Speaker 2: Look, you're seeing exactly the same sort of revolt against
32:35
Speaker 2: this in Australia, and I think, what it's all folding
32:38
Speaker 2: a pat really, and you just wonder why Australia is
32:41
Speaker 2: pushing on with the Netzerra commitment when the world's top
32:45
Speaker 2: three biggest emitted is now won't be in the Paris Agreement.
32:49
Speaker 2: There you go, China, America, India. Our government. Meanwhile, Steve
32:54
Speaker 2: Garam has promised four billion dollars Australian to make more
33:00
Speaker 2: lithium ion batteries here. Now you have recently pointed out
33:05
Speaker 2: these batteries come with a risk fire more than ten
33:09
Speaker 2: thousand lithium battery fires in Australia alone every year. And
33:15
Speaker 2: these aren't just you know, the small batteries that we
33:17
Speaker 2: just check away in the garbage. There are also e
33:20
Speaker 2: byte fires, car batteries catching fires, as well as a
33:24
Speaker 2: Tesla battery storage in Queensland. How serious is this and
33:28
Speaker 2: what does it mean for the green energy push which
33:30
Speaker 2: has been you know, go electric cars have wind and
33:33
Speaker 2: solar backward batteries.
33:36
Speaker 12: Yeah, this is a worldwide epidemic we're in now. It's
33:39
Speaker 12: not a COVID thing. Here's a lithium battery fire an epidemic.
33:43
Speaker 12: I recently had an article published at a Wall Street
33:46
Speaker 12: journal I talked about this. But e Bykee fires are
33:49
Speaker 12: now the biggest source of fire in New York City.
33:52
Speaker 12: We have just many, many examples of this.
33:54
Speaker 11: Now.
33:55
Speaker 12: We've had battery fire recycling plants. They're trying to take
33:58
Speaker 12: these batteries and recycle them. We've had recycling plants that
34:01
Speaker 12: have burned down in Australia, two of them in Scotland,
34:05
Speaker 12: in France, in Missouri. I mean, this is not a
34:09
Speaker 12: minor thing. This is going on and on. Yet we
34:11
Speaker 12: still have governments in Australia and the United States and
34:14
Speaker 12: all over that are saying, well, we have to have
34:16
Speaker 12: all these these grid batteries and these vehicle batteries, we
34:19
Speaker 12: have to go lithium and it's just getting to be
34:22
Speaker 12: a bigger and bigger issue.
34:23
Speaker 2: Steve Gouram, thank you so much, indeed for your time.
34:27
Speaker 12: Thank you so much, Andrew.
34:29
Speaker 2: I think I had a slip of the tongue there
34:31
Speaker 2: saying the governor's are vesting four billion dollars in batteries?
34:34
Speaker 2: Is four million? I should correct myself there, If that's
34:38
Speaker 2: what I said after the break, why was the Prime
34:42
Speaker 2: Minister laughing? And it was posing with that woman in
34:47
Speaker 2: that shirt plus the ABC in such Jews the eightieth
34:53
Speaker 2: anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz with an astonishing decision.
35:01
Speaker 2: This is going to be a really wild election campaign,
35:05
Speaker 2: right because on the agenda is the flag or flag's plural?
35:11
Speaker 2: What a choice. You can choose the Coalition's Peter Dutton,
35:14
Speaker 2: who stands in front of the Australian flag, or you
35:18
Speaker 2: can pick Labour's Antony Albanezi, who flies the Australian flag
35:21
Speaker 2: with two race ones the average on Torres Straight Island ones.
35:25
Speaker 2: Or you can choose the Greens Adam Band to actually
35:29
Speaker 2: remove the Australian flag from behind him.
35:32
Speaker 12: It's not just in front of the Australian flag.
35:36
Speaker 1: Well, I think we've got a lot of work to
35:38
Speaker 1: do in this country, to tell the truth, We've got
35:40
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do to overcome the racism
35:45
Speaker 1: and dispossession.
35:47
Speaker 2: So you go pride, ambivalence or contempt for Australia. You
35:51
Speaker 2: can take your pick. Join mister panel. This sort of
35:53
Speaker 2: the late debate here in Sky weekdays at ten pm.
35:56
Speaker 2: Stephen Trevoura, an author in senior lecture in history at
35:59
Speaker 2: camp In College, Liz, I find it astonishing that any
36:05
Speaker 2: country should have political leaders who cannot agree on how
36:09
Speaker 2: to fly a national flag, or even whether to fly
36:12
Speaker 2: it at all. Out of shame. What does this tell you?
36:16
Speaker 13: Well, the symbolism speaks for itself, Andrew, But I got
36:19
Speaker 13: to say, I want to see a lot more Metea
36:21
Speaker 13: stuff by Dutton. This isn't a risky move by him.
36:25
Speaker 13: He already knows it's popular. All the polls say so.
36:29
Speaker 13: And at a time when Trump is setting such a
36:31
Speaker 13: high standard for nationalism, this I want to see more.
36:36
Speaker 13: I'm like, you know what done? How about we go
36:38
Speaker 13: full Trump now and ban the flying of every other
36:41
Speaker 13: flag from every government entity. In our case, that would
36:45
Speaker 13: include the Aboriginal flag, the Torres Strait Islander flag, and
36:50
Speaker 13: the Rainbow flag. None of this is helping us unite
36:54
Speaker 13: under the one flag, which is what Dutton proposes to do.
36:59
Speaker 13: But it does make me shudder Andrew that we have
37:01
Speaker 13: come so far in the wrong direction that we are
37:05
Speaker 13: now applauding a man so hard for doing this one
37:10
Speaker 13: simple thing. I think we've got to ask for more
37:13
Speaker 13: while the tide is pulling in the right direction.
37:18
Speaker 2: Although Stephen I cut him a bit of slack in
37:21
Speaker 2: he wants to win and then make the changes, I guess,
37:23
Speaker 2: and he doesn't want to give Labor too many targets.
37:26
Speaker 2: Given the media is of the left. I don't know
37:28
Speaker 2: whether that's an excuse for him. Where are making excuses?
37:31
Speaker 2: Whether Liz is right to be more hardline about this,
37:34
Speaker 2: What do you make of it?
37:35
Speaker 1: Well, I think Liz is basically correct. I mean Dunton,
37:38
Speaker 1: and Dunton's actually I think he's actually pretty good at this.
37:40
Speaker 1: He doesn't mistake the media for the Australian people and
37:44
Speaker 1: the Australian people I think for the most part, would
37:46
Speaker 1: absolutely love to see an exclusive focus on the Australian flag.
37:50
Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing, particularly essay in Australia Day
37:54
Speaker 1: is that there is a resurgence of Australian nationalism and
37:57
Speaker 1: a resurgence of love for this country. And I think
37:59
Speaker 1: the big earning point was the no vote against the
38:02
Speaker 1: Voice to Parliament. Australians realized a whole bunch of us
38:06
Speaker 1: feel the same way about all this woke hatred of
38:10
Speaker 1: the country and it's kind of given us permission to
38:13
Speaker 1: publicly love our country again. And so I think that
38:16
Speaker 1: was a huge turning point. What's going on America, Well,
38:19
Speaker 1: Trump with Trump will probably give it some impetus. But
38:22
Speaker 1: what we need is a leader behind all of this,
38:24
Speaker 1: and that is Dutton's great chance. It's what John Howard
38:27
Speaker 1: did in the nineties and two thousands. Dutton can do
38:29
Speaker 1: it again.
38:32
Speaker 2: I think there's a parallel with the way that Antac
38:35
Speaker 2: Day was rescued from the elites. You know, they were
38:38
Speaker 2: pupping on it, basically running plays mocking it, and the
38:43
Speaker 2: public that the ordinary Australian citizen made it popular again.
38:47
Speaker 2: I think the same you're happening with Australia Day. But
38:50
Speaker 2: there's been a huge reaction Liz to the Prime Minister
38:53
Speaker 2: letting himself be photographed on Saturday laughing and shaking the
38:57
Speaker 2: hand of Grace Tame at an official Strain of the
38:59
Speaker 2: Year function of the Lodge as Tame more a T
39:02
Speaker 2: shirt with F. Murdoch on it written out in full.
39:05
Speaker 2: You won't see that we've blurred it. It was all
39:07
Speaker 2: smiles as I showed you earlier. Now, Albanies, you didn't
39:10
Speaker 2: criticize grace statementsial today after media criticism, I said, oh, look,
39:15
Speaker 2: there was a line of people that meet me. I
39:17
Speaker 2: didn't realize Tame was wearing that shirt. Do you buy
39:20
Speaker 2: that because I cannot believe that anyone who was wearing
39:25
Speaker 2: an F Elbow shirt would have been allowed anywhere near
39:28
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister.
39:30
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know.
39:31
Speaker 13: I would shake the hand of someone who was wearing
39:33
Speaker 13: an F Liz Storer shirt. We can speculate until the
39:37
Speaker 13: cows come home. What did Elbow know? Is him taking
39:40
Speaker 13: this photo? Him agreeing with her message? But at the
39:44
Speaker 13: end of the day, I don't stand for d platforming.
39:47
Speaker 13: I don't stand for cancel culture. I would have shaken
39:50
Speaker 13: her hand, I dare say Murdock himself couldn't give two
39:53
Speaker 13: rips about this child's later as tangrum and would have
39:57
Speaker 13: shaken her hand. Also, who who cares at the end
40:01
Speaker 13: of the day, and as for whether Albow was actually
40:05
Speaker 13: sanctioning her message by shaking her hand, A will never know,
40:10
Speaker 13: NB who cares? This guy is literally a has been
40:14
Speaker 13: Andrew and he hasn't even left office yet and he's
40:18
Speaker 13: already a husben.
40:22
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, Stephen. For me, it
40:26
Speaker 2: goes beyond I mean, I'll get people who criticize me
40:29
Speaker 2: come up to me and I engage them too. It
40:32
Speaker 2: is about the prime Minister of this land legitimizing a
40:36
Speaker 2: form of public debate, which I think is crude. SE's
40:39
Speaker 2: a poor example when we're already having trouble knowing how
40:43
Speaker 2: to disagree civilly. That's my issue. It's just like, you know, anyway,
40:50
Speaker 2: what do you make of it?
40:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I agree with you. I think there's a
40:54
Speaker 1: decorum that's required in these kinds of you know, events
40:58
Speaker 1: and grace tame. Over the years she's demonstrated anything is
41:02
Speaker 1: that she is an incredibly immature woman who is just
41:06
Speaker 1: simply not up to the dignity and decorum of these
41:09
Speaker 1: kinds of events. This isn't the first time she's pulled
41:11
Speaker 1: a stunt like this. I think it's interesting also to
41:14
Speaker 1: consider that in twenty twenty three she wrote a piece
41:16
Speaker 1: for Crikee and she said quote, I will always be
41:20
Speaker 1: exploitation material for the Murdock Press. Now do the actions
41:24
Speaker 1: of her the other day sound like someone who doesn't
41:27
Speaker 1: like being in the Murdoch Press. She's clearly courting controversy
41:31
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, it's all about
41:33
Speaker 1: Grace Tame. The biggest problem with it all is that
41:35
Speaker 1: she took attention away from the honorableness of the event
41:40
Speaker 1: and put it all on her. I think the sooner
41:43
Speaker 1: she gets out of these kinds of events where she's
41:46
Speaker 1: meant to be representing important issues for Australia, the better,
41:50
Speaker 1: because she doesn't have the maturity for it at all.
41:55
Speaker 2: Liz Starros Steven Javera, thank you very much, indeed to
41:59
Speaker 2: you both. Before where I go, I want to say
42:02
Speaker 2: something about, you know, this volcano of jew hatred here
42:04
Speaker 2: and today being the eightieth anniversary of the liberation of
42:07
Speaker 2: the Aushwitch concentration camp in Poland, that's where the Nazis
42:11
Speaker 2: murdered a million Jews, right, that's back when Jews couldn't
42:17
Speaker 2: fight back and like today, and so they left feel
42:21
Speaker 2: a little sympathy because they didn't fight back and they
42:23
Speaker 2: kind of liked that. Well. On top of all this
42:27
Speaker 2: solemn anniversary of one of the greatest horrors ever committed
42:31
Speaker 2: in history, was this huge controversy over who the Albany's
42:35
Speaker 2: Ulm would send to the ceremony. You know, which of
42:37
Speaker 2: its ministers hated Israel least. So Channel seven was there
42:42
Speaker 2: because this is big. Then Channel nine was there. Sky
42:44
Speaker 2: News of course was there, but the ABC and I
42:49
Speaker 2: supposedly multicultural station SBS did not send any TV crews.
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Speaker 2: You explain that to me? Unbelievable. After the break, amazing
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Speaker 2: details of how Trump did make Columbia surrender over a
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Speaker 2: game of golf. This span is dynamite, Ester Krakhu. After this,
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Speaker 2: don't take out prosper Well, I'm going to give you
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Speaker 2: a little bit more detail about how Trump beat down
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Speaker 2: Columbia when it pulled that stunt about refusing banning military
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Speaker 2: flights from the US taking back as legal immigrants. This
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Speaker 2: gets even more badass. Trump was actually out golfing yesterday
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Speaker 2: when Columbia did that and had a quick meeting in
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Speaker 2: the clubhouse with its Secretary of State Marco Rubio. So
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Speaker 2: this is really Trump's golf war. This is a man
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Speaker 2: who fixes crisis between rounds of golf. Just see two.
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Speaker 2: When Trump posted his threat to punish Columbia with tariffs
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Speaker 2: one pm low time, Columbia's president gave him just six
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Speaker 2: minutes later, one thirty four, offered to send his own
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Speaker 2: plane to bring back the Colombian legal immigrants. Later gave
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Speaker 2: in even more. Although I've got to say, you know,
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Speaker 2: could Columbius president really have read Trump's threatened typed his
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Speaker 2: long response in just six minutes. I suspect it might
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Speaker 2: have been forewarned. Might be some theater going on here. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: Joining me is writer, broadcaster, columnist, whatever s the cracker
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Speaker 2: superstar from London es so great to see you again.
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Speaker 2: Trump later actually posted a AI generated picture of himself
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Speaker 2: as some tough guy with the slogan FAFO, which stands
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Speaker 2: for as you know, if around find out what do
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Speaker 2: you make of this style?
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Speaker 14: This is the start of a Trump presidency that is
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Speaker 14: going to make the world set up and listen, and
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Speaker 14: I can tell you that he's going to cause a
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Speaker 14: lot of headagges, not just for people like the columb
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Speaker 14: being president, but anyone who dares to not kiss the
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Speaker 14: ring and fall in line. Now, the Columbian president's excuse
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Speaker 14: for turning away these military planes that he'd actually initially
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Speaker 14: agreed to let enter into Colombian airspace was that he
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Speaker 14: wanted to treat Colombian migrants with dignity, and having them
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Speaker 14: changed in a US military plane was undignified. Until he
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Speaker 14: realized that President Trump was actually quite serious and was
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Speaker 14: really quite willing to slap Columbia with tariffs, and so
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Speaker 14: he decided to turn this to pr spin into saying
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Speaker 14: that actually I'll send over the presidential plane and pick
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Speaker 14: them up because we need to welcome back our immigrants
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Speaker 14: with dignity. Yeah, okay, sure that's the excuse, but look,
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Speaker 14: it just shows that President Trump is not kidding around.
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Speaker 14: And actually a recently producted here in the UK shows
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Speaker 14: that many Brits agree with him on this stance, and
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Speaker 14: would wish that our Prime minister would do something similar,
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Speaker 14: although I can tell you that's highly unlikely.
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Speaker 2: Well, with a million illegal immigrants in your country, I mean, yes,
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Speaker 2: why but wouldn't the British Prime Minister learn a little
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Speaker 2: here to the new identity policies. I mean, you've commented
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Speaker 2: on this stuff brilliantly for ages now and the new
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Speaker 2: victim politics. Two of the world's most famous universities, Oxford
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Speaker 2: and Cambridge, both in Britain, have said they're going to
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Speaker 2: move away from traditional exams to get more students from
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Speaker 2: a minority groups black, immigrants, Muslims, whatever they want to
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Speaker 2: consider open book tests and take home papers, which is
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Speaker 2: great if you want to cheat, so people from those
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Speaker 2: groups don't fail as much as I guess white students.
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Speaker 2: I don't know your response to what seems to me
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Speaker 2: an insulting woke paternalism.
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Speaker 14: Well, this is the thing. People don't realize that bigotry
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Speaker 14: of low expectations is still bigotry and still in my
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Speaker 14: view of form of racism. What they're really trying to
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Speaker 14: say here but not realizing because they're sort of shouted
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Speaker 14: and sort of the savior complex that you know, non
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Speaker 14: white students are sick and they really can't pass exams,
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Speaker 14: so let's dumb it down to make it look like
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Speaker 14: we're being more inclusive, which actually helps no one and
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Speaker 14: only tarnishes the reputation of Oxford and Cambridge is still
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Speaker 14: one of the leading universities, some of two of the
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Speaker 14: leading universities in the world. This is not going to
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Speaker 14: help anyone. Letting students take home open open like book tests,
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Speaker 14: exams and being able to take their exam papers home,
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Speaker 14: it's it's completely ludicrous. But this is the idea that
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Speaker 14: they have because for some reason they can't think of
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Speaker 14: the student's abilities being the problem. No, it has to
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Speaker 14: be the exam papers being racist.
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Speaker 2: But it's so weird. Where does this Where does this
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Speaker 2: instinct come from that, you know, the racist assumption? Well,
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Speaker 2: if they fail, it's because we're racist in some way,
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Speaker 2: or they're more likely to fail because I don't know,
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Speaker 2: they're stupid or so. I mean, where does this come from?
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Speaker 14: Well, it's the uncomfortable reality of looking at the fact
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Speaker 14: that the life is not fair and that different people
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Speaker 14: have abilities. In other parts of the world, in Korea,
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Speaker 14: for example, if you had a certain group of students
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Speaker 14: not doing too well, I don't think the Koreans would
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Speaker 14: necessarily jump to racism as the reason why some students
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Speaker 14: are not doing as well. It's actually easier than tackling
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Speaker 14: the real problem, which is getting some students up to
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Speaker 14: scratch and getting them and investing in them as students
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Speaker 14: and investing in the education to get them up to
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Speaker 14: the standard that they need to be. But instead it's
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Speaker 14: easier to just dumb everything down and hurt their reputation
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Speaker 14: in the process.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I don't know what's the reaction being to
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Speaker 2: this move. I mean I find it hard to believe
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Speaker 2: that Oxford and Cambridge would transh the reputation so quickly.
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Speaker 14: I mean, it's been one of mainly bewilderment. Obviously there's
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Speaker 14: been a fense cause many people are saying, are you
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Speaker 14: trying to just this your underhanded way of saying non
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Speaker 14: white students are dumb? But it's mainly just bewilderment because
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Speaker 14: clearly anyone with a pair of brain cells knows that
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Speaker 14: this is not going to solve anything and it's just
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Speaker 14: going to hurt Oxford and Cambridge in the long run.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, it's the I think the world
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Speaker 2: is now really turning it back on this kind of nonsense. Esthercrat,
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Speaker 2: you thank you so much indeed for your time, really appreciated.
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Speaker 2: What a world. I'll give you an example of this
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Speaker 2: nonsense to morrow that will just knock your brains out
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Speaker 2: involves whales songs being played at trees. Believe it or not,
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Speaker 2: that's to morrow, but for now it's sherry markson. Good
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Speaker 2: NIGHTE