Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Happy Hour #144: Stressin' Around the Christmas Tree
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Steff.
- 0:07Speaker 2: I've never told you a production of iHeartRadio, and welcome
- 0:19Speaker 2: to another happy hour. This is one of those rare
- 0:21Speaker 2: occasions where I feel like we're like reaching across time
- 0:24Speaker 2: because we're recording it the day it comes out, which
- 0:27Speaker 2: is not usually the case. SOMETI Well, okay, but I
- 0:33Speaker 2: would say, like percentage wise, it's not usually the case me.
- 0:39Speaker 2: But one of the reasons that is is because we
- 0:42Speaker 2: just got back from the holidays, which is the topic
- 0:44Speaker 2: of this happy hour. But first, if you choose to drink,
- 0:48Speaker 2: please do so responsibly. Samantha, what are you sipping on?
- 0:53Speaker 3: I'm drinking on some cold water.
- 0:56Speaker 1: It is cold, Yeah it is.
- 0:58Speaker 3: My feet are freezing, he would think it is on.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Oh really, yes, yes, nice, Okay, I've got my red wine. Nice.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Because this is I wouldn't call this like an unhappy hour,
- 1:11Speaker 2: but it is kind of complaining love it. But before
- 1:15Speaker 2: we get into that, I did want to ask Samantha,
- 1:18Speaker 2: how was your holiday. We did get to actually hang
- 1:21Speaker 2: out in person recently, but it was we didn't get
- 1:25Speaker 2: to talk too much. It was lovely, but we didn't
- 1:26Speaker 2: get to really go into it right.
- 1:30Speaker 3: It was funny actually. So we went to South Carolina
- 1:35Speaker 3: for with our partner's family. They are delight. His uncle
- 1:39Speaker 3: who actually lives in North Georgia, oh about probably twenty
- 1:43Speaker 3: minutes outside of Delannaga, he joined and it was really
- 1:47Speaker 3: nice to meet him and they were very nice and
- 1:49Speaker 3: kind and we had great food, very stuffed. Immediately after
- 1:53Speaker 3: Thanksgiving lunch because we had it around two, we took
- 1:57Speaker 3: a nap. I took an hour nap immediately. It was
- 1:59Speaker 3: sol bye, but it was really nice. The weather was
- 2:04Speaker 3: well like there was a couple of rainy days but
- 2:06Speaker 3: not too bad. And then we had good food out
- 2:09Speaker 3: and about some really good barbecue that was like, I think,
- 2:12Speaker 3: the best barbecue I've had in a while. Oh yes,
- 2:16Speaker 3: it was delicious and we had the best time on
- 2:19Speaker 3: the foods. So yeah, nothing is like an eventful which
- 2:23Speaker 3: we love.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, that's all you can which we love.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Mine was pretty good too. Mine was more uneventful than
- 2:33Speaker 2: I thought I would be, but it was.
- 2:35Speaker 1: There were some events.
- 2:37Speaker 2: I want to start by saying, I got my car washed,
- 2:42Speaker 2: which is a big deal because that my car just
- 2:44Speaker 2: sits there and it looked really bad when I got
- 2:46Speaker 2: it washed I drove home. It was fine because I
- 2:49Speaker 2: know I talked about how nervous I was about that.
- 2:51Speaker 1: It was okay.
- 2:52Speaker 2: My little brother didn't come because yes, two of my
- 2:55Speaker 2: siblings are not talking to each.
- 2:56Speaker 3: Other holidays if someone's not talking to somebody.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Exactly, and we did call him and it was fine.
- 3:05Speaker 2: But because of that, we cooked a lot less food
- 3:07Speaker 2: this year, which was nice, but it got eaten and
- 3:11Speaker 2: I didn't have any leftovers zero wow. Yeah, which is
- 3:15Speaker 2: like the goal. But then my mom was like, well,
- 3:18Speaker 2: we need to cook more at it. I said, no,
- 3:20Speaker 2: this was the point we wanted to not so yeah, anyway,
- 3:26Speaker 2: we'll see how that goes. But the main thing I
- 3:28Speaker 2: wanted to talk about today, which we've talked about previously
- 3:32Speaker 2: in our episode. I think we're going to rerun this
- 3:34Speaker 2: soon on emotional labor around the holidays, is that I
- 3:41Speaker 2: have always missed my friend's friends Giving.
- 3:45Speaker 1: I never go.
- 3:46Speaker 2: I've always wanted to go, but I don't go because
- 3:50Speaker 2: I helped my mom with all of the decorations and
- 3:53Speaker 2: we do that the weekend of Thanksgiving, and so this
- 3:56Speaker 2: year I was really it was kind of strategic. I
- 4:00Speaker 2: knew there was gonna be drama. In the family that
- 4:02Speaker 2: I was like, I'm really gonna go. I'm leaving on Saturday,
- 4:06Speaker 2: is what I said. I'm on Saturday. So we're gonna
- 4:08Speaker 2: go and get all the decorations done that morning.
- 4:13Speaker 1: And to be clear, I love hanging out with my mob.
- 4:16Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with that.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Well, she's great, but she kept saying, you know, we
- 4:23Speaker 2: don't have to do it, I'll do it myself. And
- 4:25Speaker 2: I kept saying it's impossible. You cannot do this by yourself.
- 4:31Speaker 2: And so that morning she was putting it off and
- 4:33Speaker 2: She's like, no, I just kind of want to hang
- 4:34Speaker 2: out with you and talk with you as long as
- 4:36Speaker 2: we can.
- 4:36Speaker 1: And I was like, we're getting this Christmas tree. We're
- 4:40Speaker 1: doing it.
- 4:41Speaker 2: And she wanted to go to this place that's a
- 4:43Speaker 2: bit further than when we normally, god say, like a
- 4:45Speaker 2: fifteen minute drive. And I don't know if you know
- 4:48Speaker 2: this about me, listeners, I am very paranoid about the
- 4:52Speaker 2: transporting of the Christmas tree. I'm very scared it will
- 4:54Speaker 2: fall off. It is a tense time. I don't enjoy it.
- 5:00Speaker 2: I was already tense, is what I'm saying. I'm going
- 5:04Speaker 2: into the situation tinse and the guy at the farm
- 5:09Speaker 2: was falling is around and he was trying to be helpful,
- 5:11Speaker 2: but he was making me more tense because he was
- 5:13Speaker 2: like falling us around and he's like, what, hey, are
- 5:14Speaker 2: you looking for?
- 5:15Speaker 1: What with? And I was like, I just know it
- 5:17Speaker 1: when I believe me.
- 5:22Speaker 3: I tried to Christmas there.
- 5:26Speaker 1: He was really trustful, except.
- 5:29Speaker 3: The man is not a part of your family.
- 5:31Speaker 1: No, no.
- 5:34Speaker 2: And so finally we picked the tree and I'm trying
- 5:36Speaker 2: to rush, but not rush because I don't.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Want it anyway.
- 5:39Speaker 2: I'm on this deadline because I'm trying to get to
- 5:42Speaker 2: the friends giving right pick the tree. He ties it
- 5:47Speaker 2: to the roof and I'm I'm like watching him do it.
- 5:51Speaker 2: And I've always thought there must be some kind of training.
- 5:54Speaker 2: I've learned there isn't. And I pointed at one and
- 5:57Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that one doesn't look and he
- 5:59Speaker 2: was like, no, it's it's like.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
- 6:03Speaker 3: And so.
- 6:05Speaker 2: I am very concerned about this tree. We get in
- 6:09Speaker 2: the car. I'm watching out of the windows in the mirrors.
- 6:14Speaker 2: I see the car, Samantha, the car the tree slowly
- 6:18Speaker 2: move and I'm I'm panicking. I'm like washing it, like
- 6:22Speaker 2: oh no, it's coming off, and all of the cars
- 6:26Speaker 2: behind us were way way back, and eventually it was
- 6:30Speaker 2: like sideways on the roof and I said, very calmly,
- 6:34Speaker 2: I think to my mom, you're gonna have to pull over.
- 6:39Speaker 1: It's coming off.
- 6:40Speaker 2: And so she pulls over and I tied the tree.
- 6:44Speaker 2: It had completely come undone, the whole thing, like it
- 6:47Speaker 2: was barely hanging on. I'm glad we didn't lose the twine.
- 6:50Speaker 1: I don't know what we would have done. So I tied.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I did this whole thing.
- 6:55Speaker 2: I was up on the roof and tying and looping
- 6:58Speaker 2: and all this stuff which I don't been I had
- 7:00Speaker 2: always assumed I couldn't do and been afraid I would
- 7:03Speaker 2: be asked. And my mom, joking said, everyone probably thinks
- 7:08Speaker 2: we're just two stupid women who don't know how to
- 7:10Speaker 2: tie a Christmas tree.
- 7:11Speaker 1: And it was the dude.
- 7:13Speaker 3: Dumb right, She's right, but.
- 7:15Speaker 2: It was him, and we were I mean, people were
- 7:19Speaker 2: definitely like, WHOA, what's going on with them?
- 7:21Speaker 3: The dude mess it up?
- 7:23Speaker 1: He up?
- 7:24Speaker 2: And I actually like, I don't think this is true
- 7:27Speaker 2: at all, But I had a paranoid brain moment was
- 7:29Speaker 2: like did he purposely do that? Or did anyone else
- 7:33Speaker 2: experience this, because that could have been really dangerous. Anyway,
- 7:37Speaker 2: I tied it. I tied it way better than good.
- 7:39Speaker 2: We got home perfectly fine, although I was I was
- 7:44Speaker 2: keyed up.
- 7:45Speaker 3: We may start building other things. I'll chuck my own
- 7:49Speaker 3: tree down. Do you think that?
- 8:02Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because the title of this outline says,
- 8:05Speaker 2: I don't need no man to put up this Christmas tree.
- 8:08Speaker 2: And I talked about this in I believe in their
- 8:11Speaker 2: Emotional Labor episode where for a while my dad just
- 8:16Speaker 2: wasn't around during the holidays, and I kind of, like
- 8:18Speaker 2: spitefully also out of necessity, took it on myself to
- 8:22Speaker 2: be like all of the things he used to do,
- 8:25Speaker 2: I can do it. I don't need him. And one
- 8:27Speaker 2: of them was the Christmas tree. He used to do that,
- 8:30Speaker 2: or at least he would like with the pudding up
- 8:31Speaker 2: of it, he would do it. So I did have
- 8:37Speaker 2: many thoughts like that's a mythic, yes indeed, But I
- 8:41Speaker 2: carried it in by myself. My mom and I put
- 8:44Speaker 2: it up by ourselves. It's like eight to ten boxes,
- 8:49Speaker 2: some of them really heavy. We brought down the stairs,
- 8:52Speaker 2: and I mean, I'm not like looking for an award
- 8:54Speaker 2: for this, but she could not have done that by herself.
- 8:56Speaker 1: But she could not have done right.
- 8:59Speaker 2: And it was exhausting, Like I hit my head in
- 9:01Speaker 2: the attic, I had this huge headache.
- 9:03Speaker 1: I was sore, so I miss friends.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Giving is ultimately what happened because I felt I did.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Not make it. I didn't make it, but I did try.
- 9:14Speaker 2: I was like, but it's just like it really does
- 9:18Speaker 2: take a lot to, as they say in heavy quotes,
- 9:22Speaker 2: make the magic happen. But yeah, I mean, we're also
- 9:26Speaker 2: very lucky that we can do this, Like I can't
- 9:28Speaker 2: go up the stairs and carry these boxes.
- 9:30Speaker 1: I can do these things. But it was it's no joke.
- 9:33Speaker 2: And I I'm now like, I'll just I'm gonna check
- 9:38Speaker 2: all of these Christmas tree tiles.
- 9:42Speaker 3: Last year, a dude said he was okay, and he
- 9:44Speaker 3: was not.
- 9:45Speaker 2: It was like it looked to me like it was
- 9:47Speaker 2: clearly coming undone. Like normally I wouldn't have even pointed
- 9:50Speaker 2: it out because I'm too like polite, and I was like,
- 9:53Speaker 2: I don't want to offend him, but it looked like
- 9:55Speaker 2: it was coming undone.
- 9:56Speaker 1: But he's like, h it was.
- 10:02Speaker 2: It was sideways on dock mil the car nope, I.
- 10:09Speaker 3: Stay away from people with trees, not like on there smart. No,
- 10:13Speaker 3: It's kind of like the ladders that you see, Like
- 10:16Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't believe you, or anything in the
- 10:18Speaker 3: back of a truck. Yeah, I don't believe you, and
- 10:19Speaker 3: when trying to get away from you as quickly as possible.
- 10:23Speaker 1: An entire generation traumatized by final destination.
- 10:27Speaker 3: I told you that one of my friend's uncle actually
- 10:30Speaker 3: had a ladder he went into his car that fell off,
- 10:35Speaker 3: flew off a van. Yeah, and he's not okay, Like
- 10:40Speaker 3: he's okay anyway. But yeah, so I actually know someone.
- 10:45Speaker 2: I know someone that pull came off and it impaled
- 10:48Speaker 2: the seat extra luckily no one was in his.
- 10:50Speaker 3: See that that is a vital destination. You're like, ah, yeah,
- 10:53Speaker 3: that was That's going to happen to me. But yeah,
- 10:56Speaker 3: so those nightmare we get those.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Yes, it just made me think about because I told
- 11:02Speaker 2: my mom I and I kind of feel bad because
- 11:04Speaker 2: she clearly wanted to relax, and I was like, we
- 11:05Speaker 2: have it takes us about four.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Hours to do all this stuff. We've gotta go. But
- 11:09Speaker 1: then I was so stressed from the tree almost coming off.
- 11:12Speaker 2: I was like sitting trying and get my heart to
- 11:15Speaker 2: slow down. So yeah, it was just another instance of
- 11:19Speaker 2: like this is this is hard work, and people really
- 11:22Speaker 2: don't necessarily get any credit for it, right, I sometimes do.
- 11:28Speaker 3: I had a long conversation with my partner's mother, who
- 11:33Speaker 3: is very Southern's. She was raised in Georgia Belye as
- 11:36Speaker 3: well Gainesville, so close to the Nick of the Woods.
- 11:40Speaker 3: But we were talking about the Southern living and how
- 11:43Speaker 3: it traumatized her generation of women, and talking about and
- 11:47Speaker 3: that could be a whole com like maybe it should
- 11:48Speaker 3: be a whole magazine influences of our boomer parents who
- 11:52Speaker 3: really felt that they failed if they did not have
- 11:55Speaker 3: a Martha Stewart level of home. And they were talking
- 11:59Speaker 3: about the decoration and how she talked about how she
- 12:02Speaker 3: regretted ever thinking that was away and cannot believe she
- 12:05Speaker 3: was wasted so much of her life trying to meet that.
- 12:08Speaker 3: And by the way, her house is immaculate and had
- 12:11Speaker 3: cute Christmas decorations before I walked in, Like I was
- 12:14Speaker 3: like looking around, what right, but way more decorations than
- 12:19Speaker 3: we had, Like I'd given up completely with Christmas, but
- 12:22Speaker 3: like she still has things Christmas lights everywhere, little Christmas
- 12:25Speaker 3: trees here and they are very cute, like not over
- 12:27Speaker 3: the top though, But my mother and I've talked about
- 12:30Speaker 3: this before, has a whole like Elftown and a Christmas
- 12:33Speaker 3: town on her mantle where the fakes snow and when
- 12:36Speaker 3: I mean fake snow everywhere. But then she just changed
- 12:40Speaker 3: over her false stuff, which has like vines and leaves everywhere,
- 12:44Speaker 3: and I'm like, what in the hell is this? They're gorgeous,
- 12:48Speaker 3: not gonna lie. But at the same time, like the
- 12:51Speaker 3: amount of words that she talks about and how much
- 12:53Speaker 3: she is in pain after the fact, like this is
- 12:56Speaker 3: not worth it. But the fact that things like Southern Living,
- 12:58Speaker 3: which before social media told us what anything was bad,
- 13:01Speaker 3: they had these magazines telling them this was what they
- 13:04Speaker 3: needed to do, and I feel like they did way
- 13:06Speaker 3: more work because I think at this point many of us,
- 13:09Speaker 3: not all of us, many of us are like, uh no,
- 13:11Speaker 3: we're not doing that. Yeah, yeah, you do it yourself.
- 13:14Speaker 3: I've seen I've seen the price that that told we
- 13:17Speaker 3: told this, Yeah, thank you. So I feel like that's
- 13:21Speaker 3: gonna be a conversation with we should have. But yeah,
- 13:23Speaker 3: my she she and my mother are probably around the
- 13:25Speaker 3: same age, and she was talking about how she really
- 13:28Speaker 3: regretted believing the Southern Living magazine lifestyle.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Ooh, that is a good point. That's really interesting.
- 13:37Speaker 2: We should talk about that because I do you want
- 13:40Speaker 2: to specify? Are we don't do that much like it?
- 13:46Speaker 2: It does take us three to four hours, but we
- 13:48Speaker 2: don't do like that Southern living style. And my mom
- 13:53Speaker 2: is definitely like, over the years, kind of backed off
- 13:57Speaker 2: of like she doesn't do stuff for like a lot
- 14:00Speaker 2: of the other holidays anymore where she used to, and
- 14:04Speaker 2: like half of the Christmas stuff doesn't even come down anymore,
- 14:09Speaker 2: so she's backed off. I just put up like a
- 14:11Speaker 2: tree with my Star Wars ornaments in my lights, and
- 14:13Speaker 2: that's it. So I also, I did say this in
- 14:15Speaker 2: the emotional Labor episode, but it's worth repeating. I don't
- 14:20Speaker 2: think anyone else in my family would care if we
- 14:25Speaker 2: didn't do it right, like the They might be kind
- 14:29Speaker 2: of sad that the I don't know, like the lights
- 14:31Speaker 2: aren't there, but they would they're not. It's more of
- 14:36Speaker 2: we both kind we like it of the changing of
- 14:39Speaker 2: decorations or to the lights. I like the lights, but
- 14:41Speaker 2: I don't want it to make it sound like that.
- 14:43Speaker 2: That's why there's sort of a strange thing of you know,
- 14:48Speaker 2: they don't really help, but they also don't really care.
- 14:50Speaker 3: Like that, I will say the hypocritical part of me
- 14:53Speaker 3: is if I went home and it wasn't decorated, I'd
- 14:55Speaker 3: be like, mom, where's all that stuff? Because like I
- 14:58Speaker 3: have the fun. Yeah, I was a spoiled child when
- 15:01Speaker 3: it comes to seeing like beautiful decorations. Again, I also
- 15:04Speaker 3: knew the price it took, and of course I was
- 15:06Speaker 3: happy that she was taking care of herself, but also
- 15:10Speaker 3: would be concerned like are you okay?
- 15:12Speaker 1: Right? Right?
- 15:14Speaker 2: And I'm the same way, And I feel like if
- 15:16Speaker 2: I came home and my mom hadn't done anything, I
- 15:20Speaker 2: would feel sad.
- 15:21Speaker 1: I would feel worried, like you, But.
- 15:24Speaker 2: I would also feel kind of sad because I would
- 15:27Speaker 2: think it was because she didn't have anyone who could her.
- 15:30Speaker 3: Who could help her, she was hurting, or she's getting older,
- 15:33Speaker 3: and all of that makes me very.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but I also don't. Sometimes I worry
- 15:40Speaker 2: that I'm pushing her more.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Right.
- 15:43Speaker 3: The other part was like, how are we helping her?
- 15:45Speaker 3: Are we helping her? Right? So last year trying to
- 15:58Speaker 3: help my mom, my sister who would talked about the
- 16:00Speaker 3: oldest sibling. Oldest daughter specifically does a lot of the
- 16:04Speaker 3: grunt work in helping parents. Took care of presents, so
- 16:09Speaker 3: essentially not necessarily like wrapping it because my mother loves
- 16:13Speaker 3: rapping and she is again Southern living level, like professional
- 16:17Speaker 3: level of rapping, but like she would just I would
- 16:20Speaker 3: send what I would want and my sister would go
- 16:23Speaker 3: through it and do it for me, which was really
- 16:24Speaker 3: silly because it's why didn't I do that on my own,
- 16:26Speaker 3: because I am an adult know how to order things
- 16:28Speaker 3: I don't know, But like, she took it, and then
- 16:31Speaker 3: today this year she was like, she's like, I'm not
- 16:33Speaker 3: doing this anymore. You do it. And I was like, oh,
- 16:35Speaker 3: of course I would have done that originally, but it
- 16:38Speaker 3: just kind of made sense because you always do take over.
- 16:42Speaker 3: But she was doing that to help my mom. But
- 16:44Speaker 3: then it got too much for her because she has
- 16:46Speaker 3: her own family. I'm like, oh, yeah, that makes perfect
- 16:48Speaker 3: I can do it. But it was one of those
- 16:50Speaker 3: weird moments of like, oh, yeah, I naturally just allowed
- 16:54Speaker 3: my oldest sister to take over, and she said it
- 16:57Speaker 3: for you. She's like, I'm not doing this anymore, but.
- 17:01Speaker 1: At least she said that you know.
- 17:03Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad she got it. Like, I'm glad she
- 17:04Speaker 3: was able to acknowledge and I don't want to do
- 17:06Speaker 3: this for this year. Right, our family did increase. We
- 17:10Speaker 3: have six new members of our family this year, so
- 17:16Speaker 3: like I think that part was like no.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, And I feel like I do think
- 17:24Speaker 2: my mom is like I'm a people pleaser, but she
- 17:27Speaker 2: is a people pleaser. Yeah, so we didn't We had
- 17:31Speaker 2: a conversation about it this year, but she has, like
- 17:33Speaker 2: I do try to convince her, like you do not
- 17:36Speaker 2: need to do all of that.
- 17:37Speaker 1: That's fine, but we don't need that. We don't want that.
- 17:39Speaker 2: But it is a strange spot where she kept saying
- 17:42Speaker 2: like I can do it by myself, and maybe what
- 17:44Speaker 2: she meant was we're not going to do it, but
- 17:47Speaker 2: I kept being like, no, you can't do it by yourself.
- 17:49Speaker 1: For doing it now.
- 17:50Speaker 2: So it's sort of one of those strange spots of
- 17:52Speaker 2: like I don't know how much of it is she
- 17:55Speaker 2: was trying to be nice to me and didn't want
- 17:57Speaker 2: me to work, or maybe she was like maybe we
- 18:01Speaker 2: just won't do it, and then we didn't want to
- 18:03Speaker 2: tell me you're right, right, So it was interesting. I'm
- 18:08Speaker 2: glad we did it. I'm sad I miss friendsgiving. One
- 18:11Speaker 2: of these years, I will make it.
- 18:13Speaker 1: I tried so hard.
- 18:16Speaker 3: Our our friends gift muss as we talked about what
- 18:19Speaker 3: is happening this Saturday?
- 18:21Speaker 1: Oh nice, I hope the terrible? Oh nice? Yes, I
- 18:27Speaker 1: feel like there was just a big joke about that.
- 18:29Speaker 3: But I am that person drinks and I'm gonna take
- 18:34Speaker 3: them both rolled in drinks.
- 18:35Speaker 1: There you go.
- 18:36Speaker 2: That's great, honestly, honestly, I well, I don't have to
- 18:39Speaker 2: hear about that. I feel like this year I did
- 18:42Speaker 2: tell at least some of my friends about it's not
- 18:45Speaker 2: easy for me to do friends gifts right after, like
- 18:48Speaker 2: if we did it a later date, but the schedules
- 18:50Speaker 2: didn't because we did have a later anyway it did.
- 18:52Speaker 1: It didn't work out, But maybe next year one more time.
- 18:56Speaker 2: Yes, I do want to give a quick, very quick
- 18:59Speaker 2: update because I said I was nervous. I hadn't talked
- 19:01Speaker 2: to my mom about that book. I we didn't really
- 19:04Speaker 2: talk about it, but everyone mentioned it in sort of
- 19:08Speaker 2: a strange, very kind way. But I was like, now,
- 19:12Speaker 2: I think they were all just like, we don't want
- 19:14Speaker 2: to discuss it. If she doesn't want to discuss it,
- 19:16Speaker 2: but they were all like, it's really good.
- 19:17Speaker 1: We really liked it.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Your brother too, Yeah, yeah they yeah.
- 19:26Speaker 1: And then my mom got me to sign some of them.
- 19:29Speaker 2: And she's giving them like her therapist as a book
- 19:33Speaker 2: cal and they're doing it for their book.
- 19:36Speaker 3: What. No, that's that's a way to advocate though. Everybody
- 19:39Speaker 3: buy the book.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Yes. I was like, wow, that's really sweet.
- 19:43Speaker 3: I y very interesting. Mom's respected to being like, yeah,
- 19:48Speaker 3: that's my daughter. She's talking about this and this is
- 19:50Speaker 3: what she's talking about in the trauma of coming out, like.
- 19:54Speaker 2: I know, but she's She's seemed pretty confident that they
- 19:59Speaker 2: would like it.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I do know. Her therapist is very liberal. She
- 20:04Speaker 1: would have to be to work with my mom. Okay.
- 20:06Speaker 3: I find that vaccinating because also when I went to
- 20:11Speaker 3: my partner's family's mother's house, she had two copies because
- 20:14Speaker 3: I had sent her one and she bought one, and
- 20:17Speaker 3: the uncle, who was very conservative, apparently had said some things.
- 20:20Speaker 3: I was like, obviously very conservative.
- 20:22Speaker 1: I was like, you wrote it.
- 20:23Speaker 3: Like my partner, he's amazing, Like he he shouts very
- 20:26Speaker 3: loudly about my book, and I'm like, oh, thank you,
- 20:28Speaker 3: says something to him, and he picks it up and
- 20:30Speaker 3: starts reading it, and I'm like, we all just sat
- 20:33Speaker 3: there and he read it for a good five minutes
- 20:36Speaker 3: and then he puts it that he's like interesting. So
- 20:40Speaker 3: I don't know what already read it either, though probably
- 20:44Speaker 3: for the day. Looking for a Christmas gift, you should
- 20:47Speaker 3: buy this book.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Oh absolutely absolutely I did. I do want to come
- 20:52Speaker 2: back and talk. Maybe we can do this in another
- 20:53Speaker 2: happy hour Monday, Mini. I do want to talk about
- 20:56Speaker 2: the because I had my brother's fiance. His grandfather came
- 21:02Speaker 2: and he he's very nice, but he likes to do
- 21:05Speaker 2: the thing where he'll be like, are you gonna tell
- 21:08Speaker 2: me women don't like cooking in the kitchen? And I'm like,
- 21:11Speaker 2: but he always addresses it to me because he knows,
- 21:14Speaker 2: like I'm a feminist, right right right, And then his
- 21:18Speaker 2: granddaughter is always like stop it. But it's just a
- 21:22Speaker 2: very interesting He's never like really upset me. He said
- 21:26Speaker 2: some things where I'm like, whoa, But it is an
- 21:30Speaker 2: interesting thing when they're like, come on right, feminist, right
- 21:35Speaker 2: right right?
- 21:36Speaker 3: You know this is gonna piss me off, or at
- 21:38Speaker 3: least like I'm gonna give you a look or to
- 21:41Speaker 3: play it off and be nice, which is all awkward.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 21:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 21:45Speaker 1: I was generally just like, Okay, it's just laugh and
- 21:49Speaker 1: move on.
- 21:51Speaker 3: With my brother. He does that to me a lot,
- 21:53Speaker 3: and I'm just like, and then I just insult him.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's another another way to do it.
- 22:02Speaker 3: Well.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Cheers ever, Just yeah, let us know. I would love
- 22:06Speaker 2: to hear from listeners about any of your friends giving
- 22:10Speaker 2: memories or traditions or any of your thoughts about any
- 22:13Speaker 2: of this, because I know we talked about that in
- 22:14Speaker 2: our recent Monday Mini. It'd be great to read some
- 22:17Speaker 2: of those. So yeah, if you would like to contact us,
- 22:20Speaker 2: you can. Our email is Stuff Media, mom Stuff at
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- 22:28Speaker 1: We have a Tea Polk store, and yes we do
- 22:30Speaker 1: have a book.
- 22:31Speaker 2: If you're looking for gifts, yes you can get it
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- 22:36Speaker 2: super produced Christina, our executive producer Maya, and our contributor Joey.
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